#59: Jeff is Back! Friendship, Gratitude and Plans

Guest Host Jeff is back with his sultry voice and giantism. 

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SPEAKER_05 0:05

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SPEAKER_00 0:30

Everyone feels the same way you do. Alright? What do you do right now?

SPEAKER_05 0:52

Check one two. Check one two. Check it eat. Check it each. And now we're recording in.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

So do you guys make friends easier or what? How about typing, right? That's hard. Punctuation and junk.

SPEAKER_05 1:10

Oh yeah, we missed all that too.

SPEAKER_03 1:13

So JB made a friend.

SPEAKER_05 1:15

I was late today, and I apologize. I don't like being late for things. However, uh I went to our local runners store? It's called Runners.

SPEAKER_04 1:26

Store. It's a store. The running store.

SPEAKER_05 1:28

I always mess up with running room and runner's soul.

SPEAKER_02 1:31

Oh, I thought you were trying on purpose not to say it. No, and it pisses it pisses store.

SPEAKER_05 1:35

It pisses uh Tony off because he apparently there's a there's a big rivalry when there used to be running room and the run runner's soul.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

Runner's soul is legit.

SPEAKER_05 1:44

Runner's soul is the one I went to. Uh because running room is no longer in Lethbridge. Yeah, because Runner's soul thought of that.

SPEAKER_04 1:50

Yeah, we're just gonna say the city too. Firebomb.

SPEAKER_05 1:52

Yeah, yeah. I've said it many times. Uh so anyway, went to that store because I got a gift card and I wanted to buy a winter running jacket.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

That can fit your biceps. Yes. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_05 2:05

Uh I went outside in the cold run yesterday. It was interesting. Uh anyway, end up talking to the dude that works there, and uh he had mentioned something to somebody else in the store that he'd finished at 200 mile and was kind of talking about it, and so I was like, hey, what's when when did you do that? And we started talking and 30 minutes went by. And at the end of the conversation, I was like, This is gonna sound weird.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

Do you want to be my friend?

SPEAKER_05 2:28

No, this is gonna sound weird. Uh, have you ever been on podcast before? And he's like, Well, actually, he's like, I I after we finished I finished the 200 mile, uh, so many people were asking about like what happened. I was kind of interested in like uh recording my experience. So he said, I actually did one. The first one I've ever done, I just did it for that reason. And uh so I'm like, Well, would you want to be on one? Uh and he's like, Yeah, maybe. So, anyway, would you like to be on a well-established podcast? Well established with 30 lists. He probably has more listens in his first episode than we've had.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

About to be 31. Uh, anyway, did he do the podcast by himself? Mile one. Things are going good.

SPEAKER_05 3:05

I don't know. I'm enjoying myself. I'll have to listen. I haven't listened to it yet. Anyway, this whole brought up conversation about uh making friends, and I said he seems like a good guy because uh initially CJ was very resistant. But you don't know. Sure. I I never said that I guarantee I said he seems like, and during the conversations I have with him, I feel like I'm pretty decent at you know judging people accurately.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

Super decent.

unknown 3:30

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 3:31

Thank you. Uh accurately. I'm not saying I'm 100%, but I think I'm pretty close. So anyway, you were very resistant to the idea that he potentially could be somebody to chat with.

SPEAKER_03 3:45

I'm just waiting for angry Jason to wait.

SPEAKER_04 3:47

No, it's fine. I I did my venting like 15 minutes ago when it wasn't recording. So good. No, but my venting had nothing to do with that. I find it very hard to to make an adult male friend outside of work work.

SPEAKER_05 4:00

Sure, okay, but now we have to come back to this word. What are we defining as a friend? Because just because I chat with this guy's.

SPEAKER_04 4:04

Like you guys, like you guys.

SPEAKER_05 4:05

Sure. But okay, but I think.

SPEAKER_04 4:11

You know what I mean? Like with someone who I can get along as well as I get along with you three. Whether I'm talking like texting and hanging out and stuff like that. I don't know if that's something in the cards for me for like a while. I I don't know. I don't have a desire to either.

SPEAKER_05 4:23

I certainly don't like it. I'm with you. I definitely don't have the desire to, but I definitely think you could. And you you can. They'd have to climb over the angle. So but here's the but here's the thing with the friends thing. So like you have there's friends of like our our closer group that like we can talk to about anything and we we talk all the time. But then there's like friends who you know to a decent amount that you talk to every now and then, but it's not a super close relationship. So you would still there say they're a friend, right? I mean it all depends on how we're defining the word.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Acquaintance versus friend.

SPEAKER_05 4:53

Right, but like you wouldn't say so. Some of your CrossFit peeps that like you you like and you talk to when you're the round, you don't go out of your way to like hang out with them outside of you know the gym. Some of them I do, but yeah. Sure. But my point is the ones that you don't, the ones that you don't take that time to go, you it's not because you don't like them or because you're not friendly with them or you're not friends because of the you've been around them so much so many hours just being in proximity in the gym together. Right, right. You would you say they're acquaintance or would you say they're a friend?

SPEAKER_02 5:21

Ooh. I usually just because I like the term go gym peeps. So just throw in another uh term.

SPEAKER_04 5:28

So you're gym peeps. Are you communicating um when you're not at the gym with them through text messaging with that with good punctuation?

SPEAKER_05 5:35

Sure, but no, but is that the defining term? If you don't have a conversation and getting deep, yeah. But that's but that's my question.

SPEAKER_04 5:42

You see a funny meme, are you sending it to them? Some, yes. Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:45

So I think that I think that that's uh friends, yeah. Yeah, friend group. Are you wishing them happy birthday?

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Yes. You are. Well, uh on uh well, yeah, there we go. So I'd say the friends, yes. And then like some of them, it's like meh.

SPEAKER_05 5:57

Meh because you don't know, probably, not meh because you don't care. If you knew where the birthday was, you'd probably send them a quick text.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

I'm just too friendly. I just like everything.

SPEAKER_05 6:05

But I'm I agree, you you you are, but you I think I think we're similar in that way. Like, I we talked about this, like it doesn't matter if we talked about it. Uh my my what I was saying was like it's I think that when I initially meet new people, I'm like all of you, I don't love pe love people. I don't love going to places where there's a bunch of new people anymore. I don't know why. Yeah, maybe it's our nursing home job, maybe it's age, whatever. But I try to when I get there, then I'm I'm a social guy. I like to talk, so I like to go find people and have the conversations and meet them and whatever. Uh and I tend to try to do that from a place of um I don't can't think of the word I'm looking for, just a place of like allowing them to kind of be who they are without my preconceived judgments tainting that. I mean it could I could be right. The the idea that we don't judge everyone we meet is a lie. You before you even talk to someone, you've made judgments based on their appearance, all these things. And and that's just what humans do. But you can be very wrong about those judgments. Like I I would say a really easy example of that is say you meet somebody with like tattoos all up their neck and face and stuff, and you could might have a disgusting, yeah, you might have a preconceived idea of who this person is. Next thing you know, you start chatting with them, and they're awesome. Like you they could be great people, right? But you just anyway. My point is I think that we're very much the same as far as we're willing to give somebody the benefit of the doubt a little bit on the conversation and try to get to know them in that place where I know other people in our group are very resistant to having conversations.

SPEAKER_04 7:38

I think that's that's you and me.

SPEAKER_05 7:39

Yeah, because you notice he just I'm not, I'm not. I'm not saying I'm thinking about someone else, and you yeah, it's about two other people.

SPEAKER_04 7:44

Yeah, no, I know who you're thinking in this room. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:46

Yeah, and he knows he knows who he is, he's listening.

SPEAKER_04 7:48

But I'm not the same way though, but like I was thinking about the last two years because of the exposure and the thing that you just got into at the nursing home. You meet a lot of new people. And those people, I'm actually are I'm texting them about non-work things all the time. We're sending memes. So I've made new friends, but it's just because of work.

SPEAKER_03 8:05

You know, I'm not like there's still a nexus to work.

SPEAKER_04 8:08

Yeah, there's still a nexus to work, or like, but I think it's the same with you and kids' activities. There's a nexus to like, hey, we're sitting all the parents are there, this is our chance to whatever. We we don't want to sit on our phones all the time.

SPEAKER_05 8:17

But there's always gonna be a nexus to something. I mean, that's how it works. Like, why would you you're not gonna go out of your way to like in the groceries in the grocery store or the remote store? Yeah, well, okay, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 8:27

I I don't know. Like, no, it's just weird because it's like, and but I I think the reason I said that initially it wasn't recorded or whatever, but it's like my kids on a play date right now, and there's like another kid there on the play date, and they're all just the best of friends right now because kids just don't care, they just want to have fun with people, and I kind of miss that in a sense. Where it's just like I'm let's say you're I guess it's kind of the same at the gym, though. Like you're at the gym, there's a person there, similar interest, and you just start to But that that's the key.

SPEAKER_05 8:53

It's it's the community factor, the community factor and the similar interest idea, right? Like you it's very easy to sit and have a conversation, and maybe maybe you find at the end of that conversation you talked about the thing that the similar interest, so uh the CrossFit thing, maybe you talk to one of these guys and you can talk about the gym and talk about yeah, bro, how much you lifted or whatever. Nice. Hey bro, nice.

SPEAKER_04 9:11

Is that what you guys think?

SPEAKER_05 9:12

But then all the time, but then when you find that once if that conversation continues, once that the once that initial interest conversation is over, there's nothing to talk about. And if that's the case, those I would say those people aren't friends, they're not people that you would be friends with.

SPEAKER_03 9:24

But that's the that's the same at the nursing home or like with the nexus friends at the nursing home, it's like, hey, do you like nursing home job things? Cool.

SPEAKER_05 9:33

No, 100%.

SPEAKER_04 9:34

Yeah, and that's where it ends. Because so you're a work friend. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:37

Yes, but that's exactly but that so that's exactly my point is like you're gonna have people that are um surface level. I would I would still say friend. There's you're friendly, you you you have a general care about their well-being, um, and you know them, you know them a decent enough. Like you know them because of the proximity with how much you've either worked with them or been around them. So you know them, you know their family to some degree.

SPEAKER_04 9:58

Uh I would say that's what about like neighbors? Like because you guys can't really believe your neighbor now, but you can from the previous place you lived in. But my neighbors and we're not we we wave, we say hi.

SPEAKER_05 10:09

That's yeah, I would say that's not friend at all.

SPEAKER_03 10:11

Like, yeah, and I and I what like why is that? Because it that depends, right? Like Johannes is my friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_05 10:18

Yeah, I wonder. Because you but you have not have you ever gone out of your way to sit and have a conversation with them? Yeah, but that's my point, is like if it has to you have, okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:26

Yeah, so maybe and they have too, and I not on the best day, but like are you Jason was on his phone all morning.

SPEAKER_03 10:32

I've had a bad morning, definitely friendly with them. Friendly, but but how many of your neighbors, the ones that you are not friends with, like how many of them do you have common like things in common with like the reason I'm friends with Johannes is because we like the same shit.

SPEAKER_02 10:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? And maybe it's like you just need more than the one thing in common to become friends, right? Like you pass the work stuff and it's like, oh, I also like snowboarding.

SPEAKER_03 10:54

Oh, cool, and then you bind. And that's why I am by nature actually, I think, a really bad conversationalist with people. I don't think so. I don't think so. I maybe sometimes so handsome. How can they not?

SPEAKER_05 11:06

So explain, explain why you think that, because I I wouldn't say that about you at all.

SPEAKER_03 11:09

I think sorry, uh maybe it's when like I feel that way with people that I don't know very well because I don't ask great questions, right? It's like, hey, like, how was your day? Good. All right, like talk about the weather. And I hate, dude. I like I think everybody here I hate small talk. I hate it so I I love it sometimes. No, yeah, I think it depends. Uh no, it's terrible. And you you can't even say that because you are the guy that like will be like, hey, we just met five minutes ago. So tell me, what is the deepest, darkest things you think about like? Yeah, very much. Yeah, I do do that.

SPEAKER_04 11:40

Okay, but that's after five minutes of small talk that he establishes a little bit of rapport. So he's good. 100%.

SPEAKER_03 11:44

No, and it's just I think it's a matter of asking these people that are potential friends like better questions, right?

SPEAKER_05 11:50

Like, hey man, like what actually like But in order to do that, wouldn't drive you, but in order to do that, you have to give a shit.

SPEAKER_03 11:55

Totally.

SPEAKER_05 11:56

And that and that's the thing is if you don't, and I understand I understand that mindset, like you don't, because you don't want to make another friend.

SPEAKER_04 12:01

Like I get why is that because that brings it like that's where I'm at. I think I can make friends easy enough. All of us can, but we don't we don't want to. But your friends full. It's okay to have a full friend cop. Isn't there like a number or something that you can assume? Like you can only know this many people, or what is it? Like a trend. There's a computer you can look that up. If only we haven't got it. But I I I want to look it up, but I guarantee that uh JB knows it.

SPEAKER_05 12:23

No, I don't, but the uh I get what you're saying. I but there's definitely some intention that has to be behind it. I mean, if it if you or like I and I've been this way where you go to a kid's sporting event and you know you're you're acquainted, you're acquainted with my daughter's parents, like my daughter's friend's parents. Like I know I've seen them all around. I you know, peripherally, you've known you know who they are. Um, but like I've been at at events where I literally just try to hide in the corner and don't want to talk to people. I've been I've been there, like I it happens a lot. But at a certain point, you have to be like, okay, like you're either going to just because of proximity, the amount of times you hang out, you're gonna start having a conversation with somebody, and the next thing you know, you're you know, you every time you go to these things and you see them, you know, hey, what's causing going you end up chatting with them, and in in that process you start maybe caring and then you start you know developing a friendship potentially. But I I'm with you, like, and again, I think it is a completely based on our job that that that we become that way. Like, I don't want to have another surface conversation about nothing with somebody I don't know. That that's kind of how I feel a lot about it. But you have be but in order to defeat that, you have to go out of your way to get to know these people so you can have conversations with them about real things.

SPEAKER_04 13:32

So I like this this this Dunbar's number. You can know about 150 people, but it goes a second layer where it's like you can have about 15 good friends, and then about 50 people who are just friends, and then 150 meaningful contacts or acquaintances. So I think that's kind of what you talked about, where you like you see them and it's like hi, you know, like or work friends or whatever. But I I think that's I think that's I probably have about 15 people that I could kind of call at three in the morning and expect them to answer and help me out with a problem.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Yeah, you know what I mean? That's fair. And part of it too, I wonder like if that person then brings you joy or something. There's something in that relationship that is beneficial to you past like asking them for I don't know, money or whatever it is. Yeah, it would be it would need to be because it's hanging out with you guys because you bring me joy in my life. So I take time out of my day to hang out with you when I can.

SPEAKER_05 14:18

But do you uh may I do you feel like if you have a good conversation, like I mean this, like after these are done, I feel charged. I'm good, I feel good, I'm driving home, like this is this is good, right? But I also feel that way sometimes with people like I maybe just met, like this dude that I talked to today, like just having a conversation about he we're talking about the 200-mile thing, and we were discussing like just mindset and stuff like that, and like I f it felt awesome at the end of the conversation. Like, this is a good conversation because it wasn't just it wasn't surface level, like you were talking about some things and talking about again about mindset. I talked about a book that I read that was about the like just that's just how it went, and I left that feeling like that was a good conversation, it wasn't a garbage, useless conversation. Um, and I think that you can find that in in different areas with different people that you might not be friends, quote unquote friends with, but you have again similar interests or something that brought that relationship together, even even in something simple as like freaking junior girls basketball, like whether we're they're where my I'm talking to the parents about it, and maybe they're super into that and they're trying to like push their kid, and I you know what I mean. You can find some value in these things. Maybe they're not on the same surf, like the level of like somebody that you would want to spend a whole bunch of time with because you know you get past that conversation and there's nothing, right? Right?

SPEAKER_03 15:33

Yeah, I don't know. Let me ask you this then. So I don't know if you guys have experienced this. I've noticed this more at the times in the nursing home when I've been more, you know, enthused or fresh back onto like frontline care. Oh my god. Uh I got a lot of value out of you know how you would go to a off-site patient's place and just start talking about things or being like, Yeah, hey man, I love your house, and they'd be like, Come on in, let me show you around. Yeah, do you ever do that? Oh, all the time is the best. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:02

But I think that just comes with a little bit of the job because if you were to go there as a non-nursing home attendant and just show up at someone's house and have a good conversation, and they're like, hey, and you start pointing out, they probably have a hesitancy to show you around. Yeah, but I think there's a little bit of built-in like, I want to impress this person if you're in a nursing home capacity. Did you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:20

But but those conversations are awesome.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

Oh, they're the best, right? Or like, hey man, I love you because you're engaged. Well, like, let me like show you how to pop the hood. Yeah, and I'm just like, this is great. Those, I I get a lot of like I get energized by those interactions.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

Yeah, hundred percent positive interactions that way.

SPEAKER_05 16:33

I and that that's it's huge, that's huge. And I think that that is also, I mean, something that when we talk, where when I'm talking to like the brand new people in the nursing home, it's about developing those, finding those things because people like to talk about the things they're interested in, right? So if you as a human are a bit are well-rounded or have at least the ability to like have a five-minute conversation about a thousand different topics, even though you might not know much about it, you might be like, Oh, yeah, actually, I've read something about that. And like you have the ability to like dig into something that somebody else is interested in, then those conversations are easy, right? They're easy to have.

SPEAKER_02 17:07

So if you have ADHD like you, then you're completely a thousand different interests, you can talk to people. God completely.

SPEAKER_05 17:12

But like I would say that the some of the people who started our job who are very young, that's what they lack a little bit, and they need to develop that. And I that's why I'm like, hey, you need to start reading books and listening to podcasts and watching shows and uh learning other things and the things that you're super interested in because you're gonna be a one-trick pony and have a hard time talking to people who are you know 40 or 50 because you don't have anything to add, and you don't need to have anything to add as far as like new knowledge, but if you have a base understanding, like I know nothing about cars, but it's like, hey, I like them, and I can I can talk a bit about hey man, like you said, hey, that's a sweet car. Like, what what model is this? Like just learn to ask the right questions, and people will talk forever in the open up.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

Learn to conversate.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

Yeah, it's a that's an important skill. I I guess we're sort of I I feel like I'm still trying to develop that skill in maybe in more of the context with people that I don't have an innate interest with or in. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like that I think that would be maybe how I describe when I struggle to conversate with people is like I meet you, I have no interest in what's going on in your life, and I have to now force myself to try and be interested or like ask the right questions to generate interest within myself.

SPEAKER_04 18:20

I've had that before. My wife will have a friend and it's like, yeah, we're going there for supper. I'm like, is the husband? Like right now, um, there with the play date there, the husband's coming. And I'm like, I don't know him. I'm so I'm so glad we timed this out today, right now. Um, unless you listen and then you know I I look forward to meeting you in the future. But like, do you want to come on the podcast? Hey, bro. But but we've all been there where it's like you get not dragged along, but you have to go and establish a relationship with somebody you know nothing about. And sometimes it's okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:48

Sometimes it just sucks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:51

You know what's interesting? So um we bought this uh book, not book, it's like uh these cards called uh talking point. It's for like family talking point. So basically it's on the kitchen table, um, and after supper time, you I pull four cards out and you ask the family the question. So it's like this. It's about getting it's called talking point family, and it's essentially to like again, because I again putting the phones down, not having TV on, stimulating having a conversation with your kids and your wife and about about things and getting to know them. So um on sale right now, by the way. It's it's cheap, it's like 20 some bucks, I think. I got it off Amazon. Um so we were sitting around there the other day and you pull a card out and a camera. The one tell me it was like tell us something about uh some your family members that is unique. And so then we go to my son, okay. Tell he has to go around and say, Well, mom this, uh her this, and you this and whatever. And it's interesting the things that you start seeing that your kids think about you or your or it was I've I've I've found it insanely we've only done it a couple times so far. And I found it so and it it was so easily conversation stimulating, like it it was I thought it would be a struggle. To like, hey, we're gonna do this right now. Like, hey, I got this new thing, we're gonna do it as a family, and like, oh god, here we go. But it wasn't like that at all. It was very much, oh, that was an interesting question. And then we went around. But the one thing I found interesting when my daughter said about me was she's I think it was a unique, and her thing was how you she's like, I love how you can talk to anybody um and like have conversations with anybody about anything. So, and that was because we went to her uh friend's parents' house for uh some drinks one night, um, and she decided to come along and hang out with a friend, but they ended up sitting around just listening to the parents' conversation about like just random stuff, you know, dangerous, yeah. Uh, but she but like again, she just she I was surprised that she cared that that was a thing about me, yeah. Right, but it was such an interesting thing to do. Um, if you I would recommend it 100% to anyone who's got kids, maybe maybe a bit older. Like I would say, like my youngest is 11, and he's already he he's still a bit of a struggle in some of it, just because it's like he doesn't he just likes flirts crap out, and it's hilarious. But maybe like I would say like six and up, maybe might be a good age for that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 21:02

I'm I'm looking at it, I'm all in. It was cheap and it was it's fifty-one dollars, but it's forty dollars on sale. Um, because our supper time is uh you get the meat, everyone gets the food, they sit down, and then like it it's weird, maybe whatever. I'm at the head of the table, whatever. I'm sitting here. Yeah, I look at everybody. I know, I know, I know, whatever. Say that. Um misogyny. But essentially, everybody knows the routine. It's we sit there, once everyone gets their meals established, starting eating. I always ask the question first. I go to one of the kids, one of the three, and they all get their chance to how was your day? What was a good thing, bad thing, what would you change? And they kind of in in in some format, and they have to kind of tell me about their day, and then they say, Oh, would you change that or whatever? And then I kind of go to the next kid and everyone has the time to talk.

SPEAKER_05 21:37

Do they say good day, fun day? Good day, fun day.

SPEAKER_04 21:39

No, they don't say that. No, but I don't ask like, how was your day? Was it a good, you know, I I ask in different ways, but I make sure I have those three things established from each kid at supper time because that's a conversation time. These cards, if you if you actually look at them, they're they're amazing. Yeah. Because they they have a get to know you, a family theme, what makes you you, and a fun and random questions, you just pull the card out, and this is a great way. This is uh I'm probably buying this.

SPEAKER_05 21:59

I'm gonna be thing sitting on our kitchen table now, and whenever like there's we've we're so busy right now with like sports stuff that we've had a couple of nights where we haven't couldn't do it because one of the we're only gonna do it when we're all together. So if there's one somebody's not there, we're not doing it. Uh so but it it I it was such an easy thing, and it's just again, I think in a world of disc disconnectivity, it's just that it gets a forceful but not but fun way to be like, let's have a conversation. And again, let's get I mean my my wife, my daughter's 14, so it's like I I don't want her to pull away so much where it's like, so let's get to know I want to get to know you. What's your thought process is now as a 14-year-old girl versus the girl the little like the little girl that I remember who I still think is the person that I'm dealing with and is not.

SPEAKER_04 22:39

Yeah, so so Jeff, here's a fun and random question for Jack. Yep. What would you do for fun if you had to give up electricity?

SPEAKER_02 22:49

Uh crib. I fucking love playing crib. Super duper fun. Sweet. Did you have a really cool fancy crib board? No, it was like$15. You can get some insane ones. I have seen them.

SPEAKER_05 23:01

Uh at the game store in the mall, there's some crazy ones. They're expensive, but yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_04 23:06

I don't know how to play crib. You don't? You should I I didn't know until a couple years ago I found out, and it's a lot of fun. It's pretty fun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:13

We should have a poker night again. When's the last time we did that?

SPEAKER_03 23:15

Oh, don't know how to play poker night. I it's funny you say that because I was telling my wife this morning, I was like, I want to have a games night.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

Yeah. I used to do games night so much time. And then they've just gone away with kids. Like it's another excuse, like blaming my kids for stuff that I don't get to do anymore. But it's true, like that used to be a thing. We get together, play games, maybe watch like Game of Thrones, so you like watch the show for an hour and then play games afterwards, right?

SPEAKER_04 23:35

Oh, I haven't watched watched a show with a group of friends.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

Right? That used to be such a fun thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:41

That was a thing. Yeah. I haven't done that since Sons of Anarchy. Yeah, but like, but it was fun, right? Like you that was a good time. I we could have an average superior games night. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 23:52

That reminded me of something I was thinking about on the treadmill today.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

I don't know if I should be nice. Let John talk.

SPEAKER_05 24:02

Go ahead. If his throat is clear, he can uh I just I don't know if I should talk about this on yeah, whatever. I I was thinking with this upcoming race. Are you doing the 50?

SPEAKER_02 24:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:13

I love it. I love it. Okay, with this upcoming race, I was thinking that we should do a fundraiser. And I hate fundraisers, but we should find a charity to decide to give money to, and we should raise X amount of dollars per however many kilometers we're running as an average superior crew. And it'd be like an average superior podcast, like fundraiser, like so what's 160 kilometers, 50, 50, 260, and another 50, 310. 310, and then whoever else and then is running it who's has connections to us. Nice. We do X amount of dollars per kilometer, and then we donate that to whoever we decide. Nice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:55

So just go go door to door. Let's go back to door. Door to door. We're missing out the door to door.

SPEAKER_05 24:59

No, I'm thinking like go fund me.

SPEAKER_03 25:02

George George has brought up the same idea. Okay. Oh, but he doesn't listen to this part. That's fine.

SPEAKER_05 25:07

He's not, he can't be a part of ours because he's not part of the crew. Did he buy a shirt though? I think he did. I don't know. Yeah, he did. So he did. Yeah, we didn't know. He's paid his dues.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

He's paid his dues. Those connections.

SPEAKER_05 25:16

Anyway, that was just a thought I was had I had today as I was run running.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

Think how many more steps you will take than Jeff. A lot. Like even if we ran the state. Oh my gosh, yeah. 110.

SPEAKER_05 25:27

Oh, that's true. Yeah. Even if we ran the same distance, I'd probably double.

SPEAKER_02 25:30

Do you does your fancy dancy watch count steps? Yeah. That'd be kind of fun to know. Yeah. I should buy a fancy watch. That's kind of a must-have.

SPEAKER_04 25:37

Uh my if you want to give me your heights, we can figure out how many more steps.

SPEAKER_05 25:42

Uh five, seven, and six, seven. Yeah. All right. One foot taller.

SPEAKER_04 25:45

You guys do your thing? I'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_05 25:47

Uh my two-week not working out, eating insane amounts of sugar. Oh man. Really messed up my heart rate. Like, yes. Like I was I've been sh I've been shocked trying to keep my heart rate in zone two today. I it was disgusting how slow I had to go. Disgusting. And I'm like, wow. Like, because I I was feeling pretty good before the holidays. Like I was running at a decent pace and kept keeping my heart rate below 140. And it's like I'm at a brisk walk and I'm like 142. I'm like, what? What else happened? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 26:22

It's funny you say that because like the same thing we left the gym, like CrossFit first workout after being in Vegas and all that stuff and eating like garbage. And I was driving, and it was just like a 40-minute emam of just continuous motion. So nothing too strenuous. Motion, motion, motion. Driving home. So I'm like make it back to six, and my heart is still racing. I was like, oh, that doesn't feel right. Something's wrong. That would probably be why. Uh, how was Vegas? Ah, so good. What did you guys do? Uh went to a couple shows when saw Absinthe, which is a good one. Oh, I love that show. Hilarious. The best show. So good. So funny. Yeah, probably one of the best shows I've seen in Vegas. Yeah. Have you not gotten that one before? No. We did like all the other ones, but not at Absinth.

SPEAKER_05 26:56

Do you because uh Easy went with you, right? Yeah. And he did he mention because I think he's been to that one before. Is it the same or did it change it?

SPEAKER_02 27:02

Which is wicked too, right? Like so that's kind of fun. You can go see it different times. Yeah. Uh went and watched hockey game because Easy wanted to go because it was his birthday, so that was fun. And then yeah, just fancy food, just shopping, chilled out.

SPEAKER_05 27:14

Uh Balenciago.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Oh, obviously, all day long. Yeah. I need my sock shoes, otherwise, how do people know I'm me, right?

SPEAKER_05 27:21

You got uh your wife something, like a purse from there for like your whole wage?

SPEAKER_02 27:25

Uh no, not at all. Uh she's she's a nice lady. She doesn't make me do stuff like that. She's a nice lady. Yeah. But it was yeah, it was funny. Like four days? Like yeah, just like twenty yeah, four days. Nice. What hotel did you stay at? Uh the Luxor. Oh yeah. With pyramid. If you ask some people, think it looks like a spaceship. Um what?

SPEAKER_05 27:45

Yeah, it's a pyramid. I know.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Uh so in Vegas, we partook in the uh the marijuana treats, uh, which is fine, it's a legal thing to do. And one of the people we were with, as we're walking back to our room, we're on like the one broad side of the pyramid, and then there's the big light shooting up, and it was nighttime. So on the other side, it kind of looked like the sea or space, it would be space. Uh, and they pictured that they were on the standing on a ship, and that was the front of the ship, and this was space or the water, and that person must have stared up at that for about 10 minutes. That's amazing, and then also murmured to themselves, This shit hits different.

SPEAKER_04 28:27

Uh to be fair, I've seen the picture, it looks nothing like a spaceship.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

No, I was as they were explaining it to me. I saw it. I was like, Yeah, no, don't worry. I'm there with you. Yeah. Where are we going? Where are we going? Like a Star Destroyer.

SPEAKER_04 28:40

During race day, you're gonna take about 55,000 steps there, Jack. JB, on the other hand, is gonna be about 20 or about 230,000.

SPEAKER_05 28:49

Right, but if I if I ran the same race as him based on my height.

SPEAKER_04 28:52

He's about 1800 steps per mile, you're about 2290 steps per mile based on your height.

SPEAKER_02 28:57

Neat. Cool.

SPEAKER_04 28:59

That's interesting.

SPEAKER_05 29:00

Is that if you were walking?

SPEAKER_04 29:02

Oh shit. Yeah, that's walking, that's walking. Yeah, less. Yeah. Uh would on on 50k day, I'm assuming are we gonna have something on our bodies that would count steps? Because I I literally have a I have this watch. I got a Casio. You got a Casio?$20. Hmm. All right. That's gonna count.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

That's actually a good question because I have ended my relationship with whoop. Yeah, me too. What?

SPEAKER_04 29:27

Yeah, and I need something. Interesting. But it's funny because I think it's a good one. But no, you you get uh cheap. The phone is fine.

SPEAKER_03 29:34

Would you use your phone? Yeah, if you keep your phone on you, it works.

SPEAKER_04 29:37

But I got one of those little band things I can put it in.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

I think I want a garment. I just don't want to pay for a garment. Yeah, that's way too expensive. The Apple Watch is going.

SPEAKER_04 29:45

I don't want an Apple. Good sale on Best Buy and Garmin's right now.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

You're silly. I don't want a watch that does anything other than what a watch does and maybe some Garmin functions. You're silly. Like a Fitbit.

SPEAKER_04 29:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:55

Yeah. Do you have an Apple Watch? No. Why what what do you like about that? Uh everything. Cool.

SPEAKER_04 30:00

Well that that narrows it down. Yeah. What do you like about that that this like what's your favorite thing? Like, I'm gonna pull a card from the thing in the middle of the No, I like I like that I KB, what is your favorite thing that that watch does that this watch on my wrist doesn't right now?

SPEAKER_05 30:12

I like that I can look at it.

SPEAKER_04 30:14

I can see the so far so far we're so far we're even.

SPEAKER_05 30:18

Okay, I can see the temperature, I can set a timer, I can set my uh my workout here, I can start my music, I can check out my uh values for the day from my walking and activity level, uh, I can get my text messages, I can just glance over there and decide if I need to do anything with it.

SPEAKER_04 30:35

I can so convenience of that versus like trying to like finding and looking at your phone.

SPEAKER_05 30:40

Yeah, very much so.

SPEAKER_04 30:41

I hate everything. You just I I I can see it's just fuming over there. It's turning more red.

SPEAKER_05 30:47

I can track my workouts so I can see my heart rate when I'm running.

SPEAKER_04 30:50

Is it accurate?

SPEAKER_05 30:51

Like, well, I use I use the pole strap and I attach it to the Bluetooth on this.

SPEAKER_04 30:55

That is an eye opener because I got one of those for Christmas. And yeah, thank you for the suggestion. You need it. Yep. 100%. My zone two was not what I thought it was. Exactly. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:05

I should probably start running too. Ugh. I also should start running.

SPEAKER_04 31:10

Yeah, we've got time. Yeah, you wait till June. Wait till it's nice out. What about your boyfriend though? When is he? How do you train for a 200? We're probably gonna ask him that, I assume.

SPEAKER_05 31:22

Yeah, we would ask him that. Hey too. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:24

Don't call him his boyfriend. Yeah, no kidding.

SPEAKER_05 31:26

He's probably on the pause. And he'll listen to this before he comes. Why would I come talk to these days? He's a man of the biggest.

SPEAKER_04 31:30

JB strikes me as somebody who gets he would fall in love quickly if you do. Yeah, yeah, I feel he'd fall in love quickly.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

No. I don't think so. He falls in love appropriately. Thank you. You're welcome. Thanks, Jeff.

SPEAKER_04 31:40

No, I feel like he uh after an extended period of courtship.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

I'm sure this guy is a nice guy, but in my mind, I'm like, what are you running from that you run 200 miles? Like what is like demons does he have?

SPEAKER_05 31:56

Is that like the longest like I just no, I disagree because I Jeff.

SPEAKER_03 32:00

Jeff. He's running from the same demons we're all. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 32:04

Exactly. He lives better at the basis. Oh, it's only got one. Did he do it in Canada? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:09

There's only one. It's at the um castle. Oh, is that a castle? Yeah. I didn't know this. Was that the continental divide called?

SPEAKER_04 32:18

The Divide 200. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

Is there different distances?

SPEAKER_05 32:20

What did he say? When he said which one he did, I thought he said Dubai 200. I was like, you want to divide? He's like, no. That's hot. Yeah, that would be hot. Uh yeah, I don't know. Anyway. Did you get his number? Yeah. They're texting already.

SPEAKER_04 32:35

I would I would like to hear I would like to talk to him.

SPEAKER_05 32:38

I think that's a cool guy.

SPEAKER_04 32:41

What? Call him up. FaceTime him right now.

SPEAKER_05 32:43

I left my number because I'm ordered a jacket and it's not there yet, so it's calling. I'm like, oh, but just send me your just text me and I'll send you a I told him I'd send him our podcast so he could listen to it and make a decision whether or not he wants the D the D-pick's coming right away.

SPEAKER_03 32:55

So was this more or less awkward than the dude that I had a relationship with in Vegas? It was not awkward at all.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

I need to hear this story.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

So when we were in Vegas uh at ADCC, there was also a lot of Marijuana's around. Nice. And I made friends with the guy from uh what's that company called? Alabama. Uh the Ways to Well. All right. Oh, yeah. Nice guy. And then he's like, hey, you should come to Austin. And I was like, yeah, I'd love to. The actual guy? Like the big USB. No, no, no. Like one of the employees. Oh, okay. And he was like, he was like, you should come to Austin. I was like, I'd love to come to Austin. And then we just kind of were like and then he bought a plane ticket for him.

SPEAKER_04 33:34

He's flying out there.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

Joint podcast? Good for you.

SPEAKER_05 33:41

Uh did I ever tell the story? Have I ever told the story about the time I accidentally hit on a dude, uh, a waiter at supper, and this was in front of like a couple of guys from work at a course?

SPEAKER_03 33:51

No, but you're about to.

SPEAKER_05 33:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

You're gonna tell the world.

SPEAKER_05 33:55

So we were we were in Calgary for a course back in the day. Uh when anyway, uh it was uh bunch of guys. Anyway, there's four of us at a table, and this dude was serving us, and we were gonna go watch a movie after the supper. Uh so I can't remember what movie was. Yeah, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_04 34:14

Philadelphia.

SPEAKER_05 34:15

Uh but so guy the guy comes back to like do the you know pay the bill thing, and you know they get weird and like, oh, so what are you guys doing the rest of the night? Kind of so I was like, oh we're we're going to a movie. Uh this movie, we're going to this movie. You want to come? No, and he's like 100% invited. No, and he's like, he's like, uh, I can't remember how it worked. He's something like, oh yeah, no, I I haven't seen it. You'll have to tell me how that was. And I was like, I was like, uh in my head, in my head, I was like, well, I don't have your number. I won't be able to tell like how am I gonna tell you how it was if I don't have your number? I said it like that, and then You said that? Yeah, and the guy, the guys with me look at me.

SPEAKER_04 34:51

But did you get the digits?

SPEAKER_05 34:52

So he walks away. Oh, you got shut down? He walks away and they look at me? Like, did you just ask for his number? I was like, I guess I did.

SPEAKER_04 35:00

Yeah, but he he said that as a natural thing for what you said, and you said that as a natural thing to what he said.

SPEAKER_05 35:04

Completely, and then he came back and I was just like paying my belly pipe with my head down and walked up.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

You should have rolled with it. Dude, so good.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

Five stars. What are you doing? It's like he forgot that like you guys weren't friends. It was weird. It's probably because you were so freaking friendly with him. Maybe.

SPEAKER_05 35:22

Yeah, you have to tell him how that was. I'm like, how can I tell you how that was if I don't have your number?

SPEAKER_04 35:25

I I will say I will say, like, approachability-wise, this side of the table is much more approachable than you and me, CJ.

SPEAKER_05 35:32

I think it depends on the day.

SPEAKER_04 35:33

No, I I I generally though. Generally, yeah, I think you guys are much more approachable.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

Which is funny because I think first glance at me, people are like, geez. This is a giant KKK member.

SPEAKER_04 35:45

Where did that guy come from? Until they really look at the tattoos and be like, oh, they're well, those are actually fun.

SPEAKER_03 35:50

Yeah, they're fun tattoos. It would actually be interesting to sit the four of us in like, let's say, an airport and then have like a random person and like somebody that like working for us go up to this random person and be like, pick whichever one of these four people and go make friends with them or go talk to them and then play on a repeat and see who gets picked the most.

SPEAKER_05 36:07

Yeah, like which one of these four do you have to go talk to one of these four people for five minutes? Which one would you go to?

SPEAKER_04 36:12

Contestant number one. No offense, buddy, but you're not winning there, CJ. I think you are winning. I don't I think I'm winning either. I might I might get like a third, maybe a second.

SPEAKER_05 36:19

I could pull up a silver, but if you were it depends how you're dressed. Well, completely. It depends how we're all dressed. And it depends like if you're doing this.

SPEAKER_04 36:26

Yeah, how vascular in your arms at that point?

SPEAKER_05 36:27

It depends on like are you allowed to like try to be inviting, or are you just supposed to be like sitting there looking at your phone? Like, it depends because uh again, like your body language is a lot about about how people perceive you initially. Like, are you approachable or not?

SPEAKER_04 36:40

So your body language is very approachable. Well, but in that moment it might not be, right?

SPEAKER_05 36:44

In the moment he could just be doing this and like double fingers.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

Making a shiv. I like this topic. Have you guys heard about the app? Uh I don't know what it's called, but it's basically every Wednesday they it's like dinner like with new people. So you like you join this app. This app's apparently printing money too. You join this app, and every Wednesday you go to dinner with like new people. Weird. Yeah, and so it's like in a physical dinner, like you go to a restaurant. So it like schedules it or it tells you or whatever, and it's just like pairs people up and you see, I I like that. This is like chat roulette, but in person with less masturbation.

SPEAKER_05 37:20

Okay, well, maybe, well, maybe uh you don't know. That sounds like my nightmare.

SPEAKER_02 37:25

Nightmare app. Would you go as a couple?

SPEAKER_05 37:27

I don't mind that. Would you go as like a couple or like a person individual person?

SPEAKER_03 37:30

Oh I think if I was gonna do it, I'd prefer to do it as an individual person.

SPEAKER_05 37:34

But it'd be weird because now it's like, are you going to meet with other dudes or are you meet with other chicks?

SPEAKER_03 37:39

Your wife is your safety blanket, right?

SPEAKER_05 37:40

Like yeah, but your wife isn't gonna be cool with you going to meet some other random chick on a Wednesday. This isn't this isn't a hook.

SPEAKER_03 37:45

No, but he's made to make friends.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

But is it like is it like random gender-wise, too? Like, are there gonna be people who don't know? Or is it like just gonna be much like you move to a city, don't know anybody at all. This is a way to meet some people.

SPEAKER_05 37:55

Yeah, but but wait, absolutely. You know, which isn't a bad idea. You said you said that it's yeah, but you're just gonna go make friends. Cool. But I'm pretty sure your wife isn't cool with you uh every Wednesday showing up and meeting a new girl as a friend.

SPEAKER_03 38:06

I'm presuming that this is a gender-specific.

SPEAKER_04 38:08

I I it it would have to be, right?

SPEAKER_03 38:10

Because otherwise it's just Tinder. Yeah, it could be. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 38:13

But maybe just well, yeah, never mind. Am I paying for this?

SPEAKER_03 38:16

What's happening here? But it could be, I mean, it could be fun going to a restaurant, meeting five other dudes that you don't know, and being like, yeah, you what do you mean? No, you no, you would fall in love with everybody at the table.

SPEAKER_04 38:28

I would just walk away and be like, Well, I made three new boyfriends. Now here we go.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

We'd be getting texts, be like, Oh, I just met this guy. He's such a good dude. He's coming, he's coming on the podcast.

SPEAKER_05 38:38

I wouldn't want to do that. But no, like think about it.

SPEAKER_04 38:42

Literally, the only situation I would do that is if I move to a city, I don't know anybody. You know what I mean? Like, I was forced to move there, work, whatever have you, and I'm gone, and that's all I have. And I know people like that who have moved to Lethbridge like that and just not known anybody. This is a great way for them to meet somebody. Well, he did. He said, We can do it all the time. I don't know. Do we do we do the clap thing to delete it out? No, we're not doing that.

SPEAKER_05 39:04

I haven't had to edit it, edit anything out of the middle in a long time.

SPEAKER_03 39:07

Let's not mess that up. Um speaking, uh we're gonna come back to this, but speaking of the editing, your I know what you're gonna say. Your voice, your clip at the end. I know.

SPEAKER_05 39:20

I need I want to record it. So depressing.

SPEAKER_04 39:23

Uh please leave us a thing.

SPEAKER_05 39:26

The apathetic I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_04 39:28

We're if you want to buy us a cup of coffee.

SPEAKER_05 39:32

Uh the other guys we talked to, radically apathetic people, uh, said it sounds like I have like a hostage being taken hostage. Leave it. Leave it. I've been trying I do you know what? Do you have my red mic?

SPEAKER_03 39:44

No, I don't.

SPEAKER_05 39:45

I have a USB mic that I've been trying to find so I can re re record it. Take the one on my desk. You can have that one. Because I it is garbage.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

If you like what you hear.

SPEAKER_04 39:58

But it is like Are we trying to shift gears away from that conversation or are we are we moving? You enjoyed this podcast. Because my my wife and I have had this conversation. I enjoy doing this podcast.

SPEAKER_05 40:13

I don't know why I sound like that, okay?

SPEAKER_04 40:15

And the music doesn't help either. A little bit of music in the background, I think, too.

SPEAKER_05 40:18

I'll fix it. Uh someday. I don't know. Probably not to leave it. Probably not on this one.

SPEAKER_04 40:25

If you were to go back now to that other conversation, because my wife and I have had this conversation, because we make we just have random conversations about random shit. And one of them's like, well, if one of us is like, uh, you ever see the movie The Leftover show The Leftovers where like half the or two percent of the population disappears, it's the rapture and like they all leave? No. Marvel? Yeah, no, it's a it's a really good show. The guy who made losses. Oh this is two percent, which makes it even that's one in every 50 people disappear. Good show. Anyway, um, if that happened, she's like, what would you do if I just all of a sudden vanished? And like, what would you do? And I'm like, no, yeah. We had these comments. Like, what would you do? Like, I'm like, oh geez, like how would you meet somebody? What would you how would you go about dating again? All that kind of stuff, because everything has changed so much in the last like for me 20 years, but like it is completely messed up now. I would I would avoid the online apps, is what I would say. But the problem is I'd probably have to I would meet somebody with a Nexus to work, I feel.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

Or the like the gym or gym, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:19

Yeah, similarly go to the gym at work. You go to the gym somewhere else, well, yeah, but uh she's not talking to me.

SPEAKER_03 41:26

This isn't my idea, but I feel like this is like uh fishing with dynamite, like dating. Like if you were a dude and you're like, hey, like my wife just got snapped out of existence by yeah, the rapture.

SPEAKER_04 41:34

That's what we that's what we say is the rapture because it's it's nicer and she's in a nice place. And I I would just join hot yoga.

SPEAKER_02 41:40

Oh that sounds like an idea. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:43

In a speedo, day one. Well, maybe not. Would you just roll up hot yoga?

SPEAKER_02 41:48

Yeah, like that would be so fast.

SPEAKER_05 41:50

We should all do hot yoga. I've never done it. Who's this? I'm some gentleman. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 41:54

Were they someone from the nursing home who did pretty much that uh speedo? And did they? Yeah, they could pull it off too, though. Okay, but uh I don't think they listened. Nice. Um, it was a lot of fun, and the atmosphere was very sweaty. Yeah. I I was fishing in diamond, I could see. Granted, that if I roll it in a speedo, I'm not gonna be fishing. I'm gonna be sitting on the boat by myself. Just cast on the line.

SPEAKER_05 42:17

I would legit consider being lonely and single for the rest of the world.

SPEAKER_04 42:22

Would you? I would. She she would. That's she says that is an option for her.

SPEAKER_03 42:26

Uh, you say no, this is sad. You say that, but at some point that desire for human connection will take over.

SPEAKER_04 42:31

Probably, but then you have your app where you can go meet four or four other guys and have a dinner with them. That sounds amazing. There you go.

SPEAKER_02 42:36

There's you're going to run her soul. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 42:39

I yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 42:41

I I say that. Like, we have that conversation, my wife and I. And it's a fun one to have. I always say like I would yeah, die alone and like just focus on kids and like make sure that that's my butt. You would get lonely, right? That's the thing.

SPEAKER_04 42:54

Oh, I I make I make it very clear to her that as soon as she's like, I'm moving on immediately. If she's gone, I'm moving on immediately and she's fine with that. Yeah, I'll as soon as I possibly can.

SPEAKER_05 43:04

I don't know. I I for me, I think I have to be the opposite. I I think that my intention would be I'm all right, I'm done. I'm good to I'm just gonna work on myself and focus on my kids, like you said. Um but I think I would assume at some point maybe naturally you end up developing a relationship with somebody. I don't know. Like I I don't know if I would go out of my way to find something.

SPEAKER_03 43:23

I really don't. I think it would find you.

SPEAKER_05 43:26

It might, right? But I but I don't think could be. But I would definitely wouldn't do the dating crowd, like the dating crap. No, no.

SPEAKER_04 43:33

No, there's too much of that. And we hear stories from guys who do it. It's like it's knots and nightmare.

SPEAKER_03 43:37

I also don't think you need to. Like it's everybody's zigging one way, you can zag the other way and have much more success.

SPEAKER_05 43:43

It's like the idea, like people who've never been married or like single people, like, well, how do I find that person? And I don't I don't know. I mean in this world it's not really weird.

SPEAKER_04 43:51

Is the day of the grocery store mixture gone?

SPEAKER_05 43:53

Like is No, but I just think I just think the focus is wrong. I think if you focus again on yourself and like becoming a person that somebody would actually want to be with, I think it'll happen at some point. I think yeah, you need to put yourself in positions where like in a community like CrossFit or a gym or uh somewhere that where there's a community of people maybe you get to you know be friendly with. But I think if you just I think the people who are like desperately trying to find that person are gonna be less successful or potentially finding the wrong person because they're gonna settle for something that they maybe shouldn't have if if they had changed that mindset and been okay, I need to I need to be the person that I would somebody would want to be with and focus on you know their health, their finances, all the things, and then I think at some point it maybe maybe it'll take care of itself. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 44:34

Because you're gonna be out doing the thing, yeah. Yeah, and you have the ability to communicate with people effectively, right? Have conversations instead of completely so you like stuff. I see you're sweaty, it's yoga.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

I I I can honestly say I have not had that conversation with my wife. Like, hey, like, what would you do if I just like got snapped out of existence by Thanos? Okay, or more realistically, what would you do if I died?

SPEAKER_04 44:57

What did you do if I died? That's how it started. We're just saying we just said the rapture, so we take the feelings out of it and all that. It's not real, J Jason. You know what I mean? It's not real. Yeah, well, I it wasn't a show of the leftovers anyway.

SPEAKER_05 45:06

Good show. But yeah, like you've you've never had that conversation? Like, what would you do if I died?

SPEAKER_03 45:09

We've had that conversation, not but not the like but not like the social stuff. How are you yeah, not you how are you gonna manage like the social thing? And it's interesting because my mother-in-law is a widower, yeah. And uh I watched basically that whole process play out, uh and to see her find somebody and and like like have a valuable, like meaningful relationship again was so cool.

SPEAKER_04 45:33

Yeah, it was nice, yeah. I don't want to go too into it if you don't want to, but like what age would uh did that happen for her?

SPEAKER_03 45:39

Uh she sold basically she was a widower right when I met my wife. Oh, okay within weeks. Yeah. Um how many years ago is that?

SPEAKER_04 45:54

You should you should know it. You should know 15-ish? Yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah. So she would have been like 40, 45, something like that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

And then I'd say like three, two years, two, three years ago, that uh that's weird. That's a big that's a long time. Oh, and they're just living their best life.

SPEAKER_05 46:09

It's super cool. That's so cool. Yeah. But the the thing that's like again, we we talk about this. I mean, you have a freaking calendar that you finally started shading in about how many weeks of life you have left. Yeah, uh, but we talk about this all the time, and like it literally could come for us at any point, right? So, I mean, if that happened around 40 mid-40s, I mean, I'm that's me. Like, I'm not quite there, but I'm almost mid-40s, right? So at any point in time that could happen. So I think those conversations they need to happen from like a financial perspective and like a uh planning the future for your family, they need to happen. But I think it'd be I think it's good to have from like just a personal like to even give your like hey, it's okay if like if that conversation's had, right? And there's a conversation where it's like, hey, if I'm gone, obviously it is okay for you to look for happiness and find that wherever that is, like you know what I mean? Because I think some people would feel like they can't, like, well, you they might they wouldn't like that. I'm look uh that I'm they might feel guilt, right?

SPEAKER_04 46:58

But if that conversation happens prior, I think it's a good thing to be that's where conversation usually goes to actually is that and just me because she's like, Oh, I just oh I'll wait and all that. Like, no, I'm like you get out there immediately and find some companionship and and all that, and she's like, Oh, and I guess I never thought about that way. She knows that's what I would want if the rapture did happen.

SPEAKER_03 47:16

What is sorry, is that a biblical thing?

SPEAKER_04 47:18

Yes, it's a Bible thing.

SPEAKER_05 47:19

It's like the good people, the good people instead of Thanos, Jesus snaps his fingers and the good people.

SPEAKER_02 47:25

Holy crap, Jesus is Thanos. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 47:29

I never thought of that. It happened. I never thought of anything. There, there's a couple things I want to talk about as a result of what you just said. Um, it's actually on my to-do list, like quite near the top right now, is make a list for my wife of like if I die, here's like how to get into my bank accounts, or here's super important. Here's how to like access the little like my Bitcoin stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05 47:49

It's hugely important. Uh so like uh like I've talked about my mother, my father-in-law died in October, I think it was. All right. Uh, and that that that was one part of the issue. Even actually, when even when he got sick, and it was we knew that he was going to die. Something as simple as my mother-in-law would needed a new phone, but he was the account holder. So my my um brother-in-law actually called in pretending to be the father-in-law saying, Hey, yeah, no, she's got I want to put her on as a primary, and then she was able to then take over the thing. But if that just stupid, stupid things like this, right? Uh another another key that um if you're listening to this is super important to know. If you so uh I've had I've had a mask card since 2020, like I've had a maskard for forever. When I got when we got married, my uh my wife's we just she's has a joint like on mine. So I get mine and then her is just the second card, right? You're primary though? I'm the pri I've been primary forever, right? But the issue becomes that if I died and she's got no she'll have no credit history if she doesn't have her a credit card in her name as primary. It doesn't matter the fact that she's been had a card, paid it off the as a secondary, if you don't have a primary, so you so she was big she was given the advice you need to get yourself your own credit card, even whether you use it or not, maybe maybe buy it for a couple things and then just make sure you're paying it off just to build that credit in case when he if your husband dies, you will have essentially no credit. Um I mean, depending upon how the mortgage is structured. I didn't know that, but that's crazy. Anyway, simple, like it's weird. Like we think we we don't like to think about death. We all know it's gonna happen one day, but like those conversations, if they're not had, it just makes things so much harder for the person left, right? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:27

Well, like to the point of where I'm quite sure my wife doesn't know our TELUS pin, like a four-digit number. Right, completely were like writing it down, or what you Yeah, I think I was just gonna write like a letter, a note, being like, here's a physical document to have.

SPEAKER_05 49:40

Yeah, having a physical book with passwords in it, like back when we're giant nerds and doing so much crypto stuff, like having those physical books with the seed phrases and stuff, but like transfer that to real real life things where you know, with having your your email, your banking, your all the things on in a book and put it somewhere obviously safe. Like, but that would that's huge because it becomes uh a giant stress if that's an issue, they can't get into things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:06

About a year ago we drove up to her fit family, which is about four and a half hours away, and she drove and I sat in the passenger seat, and all I did is that I wrote in the notepad I wrote the title like AMA, and then I wrote username password, then best western card, like just random jungle. It took four hours to change it because I had to reset so many passwords too, because you forget them all. Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_05 50:26

A hack for that might be so a lot of these password place things like apps where you can store passwords. Yeah, usually have usually have a master password for that app, and if you basically if you just say that master password for the app, then everything else would just be in there, right? Yeah, um, so that's an option.

SPEAKER_03 50:42

Which I guess is what that's what my notepad is. Very much so. Yeah, totally. That's what I do.

SPEAKER_02 50:47

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_03 50:50

I hope that doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_05 50:51

Yeah, me too. But it's gonna the rap room.

SPEAKER_03 50:55

I I so that would be interesting. Uh I'm I am not you're gonna hate this. Oh god. I I have gone, okay. No, how do I phrase this? Like you, I was raised somewhat religious. I would say less than me, but continue. Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_02 51:13

Well, like you're better, okay.

SPEAKER_05 51:16

No, I would say there's a vast guy was Jen taken when Sandel snaps his fingers.

SPEAKER_02 51:20

We're not.

SPEAKER_05 51:20

I would just say there's a vast difference. I you would know what I'm talking about. Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_03 51:23

I just did you also get uh indoctrinated by the church quite heavily?

SPEAKER_02 51:28

Yeah. Uh my auntie and my grandpa were both ministers. No, but uh like my family was pretty chill with it. So continue with your story, Chris.

SPEAKER_03 51:36

I I was a sinner and just kind of a little bit religious. We're all sinners. Uh and I I went uh and then through my twenties, I went through this like like really far, like there's no fucking chance. Yeah. And I found in the last year and a bit Well, that's because you're listening to Sean Ryan.

SPEAKER_05 51:54

Is it there's yeah, I don't know why you think I'd hate that, because I'm with you. Like are you? Very much so. Like I yeah, I'm not I yeah, very much so. Like I was very much like almost like let's go, I'm going atheist, I'm going with like Dawkins, and I'm over here. Um what's the guy who died? Hitchens.

SPEAKER_02 52:13

Everyone.

SPEAKER_05 52:13

Um no like Christopher Hitchens, like uh the book he has, uh God is not great. Like that's where I was at. Like I was at the other end of it, which is actually a really good book. Um, but I find I'm with you. I I don't know what it is, but I'm also not like are you willing to like are you willing to put your finger on like I think it's this?

SPEAKER_03 52:32

No, I'm more so willing to to this day say like I have no clue when both are possible. Yeah, very much. Oh totally. Uh but I find it interesting. Like I find more interested in the idea, not of religion, but of like I don't know. Yeah, I don't even know how to phrase it. Aliens. Well duh.

SPEAKER_02 52:48

Spirituality.

SPEAKER_03 52:49

Yeah, maybe maybe energy.

SPEAKER_02 52:52

Like Gaia?

SPEAKER_03 52:53

What is Gaia?

SPEAKER_02 52:54

Earth's a living thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:56

No, I guess not.

SPEAKER_02 52:57

Oh, okay. No, I was just trying to throw it out there.

SPEAKER_03 52:59

I don't know. Uh no, I just find it, I find it interesting. Like I I don't want to say be it like I'm drawn or compelled to like I'm like interested in it. I don't know. I don't have words for it yet.

SPEAKER_05 53:08

Yeah, like what like I get what you're saying, because I I I find I find that I'm I think it's the fact that like I think I see that people have find value in it and it works for them, and I don't know why I care that I don't care that that's a thing anymore. Where when I was on the other side of that, like the God is not great crucification side, that pissed me off.

SPEAKER_03 53:30

But you so but when you say that though, that to me it sounds like you're saying you see other people believing and you find that interesting or valuable, or that like that opens a door for you. Whereas like for me, and correct me if I'm wrong, if that's not what you meant, but for me, it's like that door is open for me a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 53:45

No, I I I I see what you're saying. Yeah, no, I I think that I'm with you. I think that door is, I just don't know what that door like leads to, I guess is the thing where I'm at. Like, I I I guess the I'm I I'm slightly honestly, I think I'm a little jealous on on the fact that yeah, where people can just believe a thing so wholeheartedly that it provides them the thing they're looking for, the like the answers to life, whatever. Like, and they believe it, and nothing anyone says is gonna change it. That part of that drives me crazy, and part of that is makes me jealous. Like, I I'm really torn on that. Like, I saw part of that like I get really upset about. Like when we start when I start talking to those people, I'm like, but yeah, but what about this? And it's like, oh, it doesn't matter. I faith. Start talking faster and answer you a little very much so because they're like, well, it's but it's faith. I'm like, but that's not an answer. And then but then the other side of it, I'm jealous that they can have that because I can't for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

Yeah, yeah. And I can put my thumb on part of it. I am jealous, envious of like church a little bit right now. The community side of it. Yes, yeah, which it totally is relevant to everything we've been talking about. Like our friends that have had like do that a lot, or like, you know, especially over Christmas time, Christmas might be part of the reason I like the lot because that was a part of our Christmas from us, like kind of like quasi-religion people, you know, not like not real religious people, but like, yeah. Uh you're just kind of like a half religion or two, hey?

SPEAKER_04 55:05

Like, no, I'm I'm confirmed. No, but you're not like serious. No, we we were we were growing up, but but I talked about this over the holidays actually, and it actually was spurred off by uh your father-in-law because we mentioned that and we were talking about religion and stuff, because when when we lived in Manitoba, there's a hundred people in the town, everybody on Christmas Eve went to church, and everybody went, and we went every single Sunday, and I was a Sunday school teacher and all this kind of stuff. But then when we moved out here, we stopped because we moved to a bigger town and there wasn't that sense of community, and the only thing that we the reason that we went to church in Manitoba, I determined, is because of the community feel, because you were part of the community, you showed up every Sunday, and it was kind of weird, and I miss it to the point where I determined that when in when I retire or whatever, I'm moving to a small town working for the Lions Club and gonna go to church every Sunday. No, seriously, because there's a community aspect to it that I I don't I don't I can't understand the stuff that JB talks about where he's like I can't I can't grasp people who just will say, Oh no, this is how it is because of faith.

SPEAKER_03 56:03

Do you just want that old wood smell, just that dilapidated?

SPEAKER_04 56:07

I will sit in those uncomfortable pews and I will just and just be part of a community, and I think that's a really cool thing.

SPEAKER_05 56:12

Sure.

SPEAKER_04 56:13

But I don't I don't I don't understand people who can just I have faith and that's it. I I can't put my head around that.

SPEAKER_05 56:18

But my question, I guess, for you, and and I don't say there's nothing wrong with that, but I struggle. Like I I can't say that I could do that because I always struggle putting myself sitting in that pew with the person, not not the pews, but just the the the message and the thing that's happening around me that I can't grasp. Like not not like not not not like uh mentally, but like I don't believe it. Yeah, exactly. So sitting there like yeah, it feels like torture a little bit because it's like I don't believe what you're saying.

SPEAKER_04 56:51

Uh and yeah, there was a time last year when you and me were in a church and that started happening. We looked at each other and I knew exactly and we were both kind of just got that feeling.

SPEAKER_05 57:01

I I and I get that I get that every single time I go.

SPEAKER_02 57:04

Yeah. Well, yeah, like instead of doing that, instead of being old man winter and going to sit in a church that you don't believe in, find something else that you you do believe in that is a community, right? Instead of moving to the middle of nowhere just to go to church. Like just like go. Just join a crossfit gym. Yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe whatever, that's fine. Do what you gotta do.

SPEAKER_04 57:21

But I guess the the that's what there's a part of the crossfit gym that is that though, right?

SPEAKER_02 57:25

Totally, and that's what it is, right?

SPEAKER_05 57:26

But like I'm an I I'm I don't know how you feel with this. Like, I I'm annoyed that I get that visceral feeling. Like I I can't. It's it's like a visceral internal feeling that I cannot deal with when it's like I don't think I don't think what you're saying.

SPEAKER_04 57:39

That's Satan.

SPEAKER_05 57:40

Yeah, maybe. I don't I don't I don't I don't think what you're saying is true. Not only do I not think it's true, I think you're lying to people. Um but on the other hand, it's very confusing to me in some ways when all and this is maybe why where you're coming, like where you are I don't know, confusing confusing the right word, but like all of the people that we listen to, like the vast majority of people that we listen to put value in the information that they're putting out into the world in forms of podcasts and books and stuff, a lot of them are Christian. A lot of them, and they very much attribute a lot of the things that they're doing to God and they they do they don't always talk about it, but sometimes like the one of the guys I listen to, a ton Nick Bear, like he's very, very open, openly Christian, very very much focuses on God and his relationship with God and stuff like that. And I find it I I don't know what the word is. I it's very interesting to me because that doesn't it used that used to annoy me, like listen even listening to a podcast where he'd talk about that a ton, I don't to me it doesn't it doesn't bother me as much anymore. Um and at the same time it's like it's a weird it's like a weird thing in my mind where it's like why are can all these people that I think I would respect, I respect in a lot of ways, yet I cannot get to that. Like I can't get there. I can't I can't suspend my disbelief and or answer these hard questions that I have about the specific thing you believe and become and and and think it think that that's true.

SPEAKER_02 59:09

Is it worth like putting that energy into or just again focusing on something that you do believe and that it does bring you joy or whatever it is, right?

SPEAKER_05 59:17

And I mean I I I don't know, but in the end it's like in the end it it's always the thing. Like if it's and I always said this, if it's true, if if what they're saying is true, and I and again I don't think it is, but if it's true, it is the most important thing to know. Right? Yeah, and and that that would be their argument, right? Like if if if what they're saying is true, and if their belief is right, then that is the most important thing. So but and that and that's why I think I I that's why I think I have a hard time fully discounting um the fact like the fact that all of these people that I see as valuable and and and a productive and you know good, or if that's whatever that means. have these have a similar sharing core idea. I mean there's obviously differences, but about this thing that I can't wrap my head around.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:09

Yeah, but then do you think God looks at you differently? Whatever. Um even though you're a good person, you do all the things that you're maybe not attending church or maybe don't believe in this religion, but you're still taking all like the T key concepts away and putting them forward into the world. Like you're a good dude, have conversations with people in running room stores. You're a positive guy, you contribute positively to society. You do all these things you're not doing anything negative. So like most religions kind of promote those things, right? Those are the main kind of takeaways from religion whatever the little minute details are after the fact or after the fact. But like you're still a good person.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:44

Because you think some overlooking God would like let you be like well no but that's but no and that's but that's the problem with why I one of the biggest questions I have one of the reasons I left the the whole the church in general is because I agree with you except that it's literally what they say isn't that not stomped by works. It doesn't matter what you've done in your life doesn't matter what if you don't believe this specific thing you're going to hell to burn for eternity right and that's well that's why like for me I I completely agree with you. I I feel like if there is something and I'm very much open to there probably is something or there's I don't know I don't know if there's something I would agree with you. It would be like there you you'd be judged on who you are as a person what your intent was actually was not this facade of what you said you believe or what you are trying to put out into the world but like who are you as a person and in like what have you done in your life right where that's literal but that's literally the antithesis of what Christianity is. Yeah. So it that's where I struggle with it, right? Yeah I feel yeah. Anyway, didn't mean to get to religious talk today sorry. Yes we went right into that.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:47

Do ahead first I I have a bunch of Mormon friends. I grew up yeah down here with a bunch of Mormon friends like some have moved away from the religion some are still like hardcore into it and we had like a boy snowboard trip with the other last year where you try to do it every year. And I was sitting with the non Mormons and chairlift the Mormons are ahead of us and the one non-Mormon dude was like venting about like oh like I just can't like how do they not see like what we see and why don't they ask questions blah blah blah and they're going on and on about how they don't believe and stuff. And I was like yeah but what what do you think they're talking about that we do that's like similar you know what I mean like I wonder what they're saying on that chairlift ahead of us. Yeah. Like what is the weird thing that we atheist whatever non-believers are doing that they just drive them up the wall you know yeah I don't know. Yeah I don't know either it was just a fun conversation yeah spurs some conversation.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:33

Well and and and like when I we went for dinner with some friends uh in the summer and went to their we were at their house and it was like all their family and then just my wife and I and uh they said grace and I was like oh this is like and I'm like oh okay like I don't really know like Grace but I'm like I just like this environment right I like this fact that like these people are here and they value being here as a family and they can kind of like get together and be like you know thanks whatever God for taking care of us.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:59

Gratitude is important I think gratitude is important and I think that it's built into religion a lot of ways right but I think that it's something that we should be doing whether you from a religious perspective or not like I think there'd be nothing wrong with that before supper. Well I mean in some ways you're hey you whoever made hey thanks for making supper right but you're not thanking the creator you're just thanking being thankful. Right being thankful but I think if you wanted to go a step further and just to be hey I just want to acknowledge that I'm super thankful for the position that we're in in our life where we can afford this food and where the food that we're eating is healthy and uh like I don't think that's an I think that's great, right? But it it definitely would have to be an intentional thing that you've decided becomes that you want to become you want to do more you want to be more grateful. You want to show gratitude you want your kids to see that you're grateful.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:48

You saw me get excited we're calling a family meeting when I get home I'm all in family. No seriously no like a non religion like a non-religious greats just before you eat supper with your family.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:59

Call it greats.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:00

What's very much great because a couple of things I think it again I think can we like can we make money off this somehow I don't think we can that that's such a good idea.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:07

But I think like having like that it's that's it's that Sarah almost ceremonial like uh you see everyone sits down nobody touches their food till everyone's sitting like that doesn't happen in my house very often like usually someone grabs their food they sit down and start eating right but that's the sports thing though we talked about like you gotta get it it is and it isn't uh it's again I'm uh I made my bed kind of idea like I'm not okay you you know what I mean like we that just happens where I think if that and then but it never happened in my house growing up because you you would you'd sit down you'd wait for someone to say you know grace or a prayer and then you would eat right which which kind of gave that like formal here we go we can eat now thanks for supper or whatever. That and I think that would be really good to build into your life if that's something that's important to you and I think it should be important because again I especially if you have kids because I think it maybe it it tries to build in some gratitude where I think that's very lacking uh we see a lot of entitlement and stuff in kids these days right so that might build in that that gratitude of hey where'd this food come from where that's happening like I'm going out there right now and saying we're doing greats tonight are you gonna do it I'm gonna do it doing greats tonight. Yeah doing greats greats I love great yeah and you could word it a million ways right but in the end it's just like hey I just want to acknowledge that this yeah that's the problem who are you acknowledging like is you just want to say hey I just want I want us all to sit take a second and uh just realize how how lucky we are to be where the position that we're in uh to live in this house to live in this country I mean you can go deep with it if you want to come do ours though right because I'll just be like honestly our our family Grace it was the same phrase every night yeah it was so frustrated oh Lord for what we're about to receive we're truly thankful amen right which is just like spot it out right which is fine because it's it's again it's ritualistic it's uh it's whatever but again is it meaningful does it have intent behind it maybe it was like a run it was like a speed bump to eating right I'm like I'm hungry like let's go speed bump eating right but you remember it here's the here's the thing is I agree with you but especially as a child you can have a different perception of it as we do now because we're getting old and we got we're like we're at that age where we're thinking about like these things that we thought were stupid when we were when we were kid right yeah we have to pass those on to our kids so they think they can think they're stupid until they're you know what yeah 100% and and then like later down the road they'd be like I do remember when you know all of a sudden dad starts saying these weird things at the dinner table and making us wait to eat and then and then at some point in their life they'd be like ah you know what that was that was the purpose of that was to try to make me realize how lucky we are your kids are going to be with like their friends who some of them are religious be like yeah we said greats last night and they're like do you mean grace? Nope grace he was pretty no it's positive it was great yeah he was very this is not for me Grace.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:46

This is not I don't know it's something that's happening tonight. Yeah there's no way around it that's such a good idea.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:54

Anyone listens to this knows we just go off of like we just there's so many things that we want to be doing.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:58

They're like yeah we we put some things into our lives though like the the prepping kind of kick we went on last year I'm all prepped up now I'm good to go he's got fire extinguishers on every level you know it I have one uh this morning I made a list I have one you have one I have one no you don't I have one okay I don't have a generator yet I need to get a generator I'm selling a generator are you yeah um I have a I only have one how many should I have you should have one on the floor one each floor. Okay it was one in your furnace room one in your kitchen sink area and then one upstairs in your laundry machine if you have a laundry machine upstairs. Shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:33

I think that's I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:34

See in my brain I always just think oh I can just go get it yeah like it like it's not gonna start that well the problem is you know you're upstairs and the fire's on the stairs I'll just ask for resources isn't as good as looking at them.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:45

Fucking God yeah you got me there uh let's hear your list before I do that 2025 Jeffrey what are you is what in your life are you looking to improve uh implement what do you do what do you do in 2025 what do you think wow this is nice uh I'd like to expand my financial side of things by expanding my rental empire. Nice yeah so we got a couple of those working on uh and then physically I think I made too many physical uh goals for this year like the 50k which I haven't even started training for uh and then I was most like oh uh because I'm deformed I want to get better pushups so I like came up with this like push-up plan and then I signed up for the world placing fire old people things uh and so I gotta train for that and then for a CrossFit yeah uh so there's just too many things for that and then same thing I mean I want to read more I talking about limiting time on your apps I should probably do that and be more present with the kids and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:58

So there's so many things and I think financially so your your your strategy for future finance seems to be the rental game.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:07

One of them it's like yeah it's one of the the pillars other than investments investments and rental stuff. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:15

I've been looking at rentals too nice I know that's part of your investment strategy as well CJ uh there's two that actually there's one I'm going to look at still has a rental too Jason Crown it's great. There's one tomorrow I'm going to look at actually where uh in the town that we kids go to school in.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:31

Before you leave I want to run an idea by you.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:34

Okay sounds good uh I was listening I sent I'll send it to you uh Diary of a CEO podcast uh had I mean it's it's an amazing podcast that I should listen to all the time and I don't uh but they had one a recap of 2025 and all the financial strategies that they talked to different people like experts about and it was such a good podcast there's so many things I gotta listen to it almost again but there's so many different takeaways that they have one of them uh was just investments like just long-term investments in uh in like not specific stocks but in like an index fund ETFs and stuff yeah get an in but they just find an index fund that's like when do you when do you want to retire okay when I'm 60 years old say that's 2050 uh there'll be index fund 2050 and basically it's gonna be like like measured out so that it tries to gain by that date. Nice uh anyway and it's just about like being being deliberate and intentional and leaving it and don't touch it and don't even think about it and don't look at it it doesn't matter. 2050 happens when 2050 happens. Right?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:28

And don't don't trade I'm listening to that now is don't trade. Right. I always thought the trading was like just throw it in, let it click and forget it. Well that's what he said.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:34

He's like he's like I'm not saying you can't make money trading I'm not saying people don't make money trading but most people don't most people they freak out like oh the market's down he's like no the people who are the people who do well they they're putting in their their 500 bucks a month every single month but it doesn't matter on what the the stock is doing or what the markets are doing. And so that I've done that change I've changed that where I've just got I've got a a bi weekly payment that goes to an account. It's just my TFSA TFS it just goes in there every single month every single bi weekly now. And I it doesn't whatever happens to it happens to it. I don't it doesn't matter um we could talk about B Ron Banker but we won't um we'll we'll save that for another episode. Okay so that fitness yep good good uh so this morning again well I I I think a lot while I'm running which is I guess why I like it maybe uh I started making a list of the of daily things that I would like ideally like to be good at just doing like where they become just habits every single day there's a lot but there's probably more that I want to add so maybe you can help me. So what I have on my list so far is meditation cold plunge run creatine journal creatine creatine okay creatine five or ten monohydrate uh ten nice uh journaling eating well 8020 with focus on protein uh read take my vitamins D multi c omega threes stretch nice that's what I have on this so far I like all those things I like that I I think you can add I can offer one thing right off the body tell me sunlight in your butt that's the quickest that's the quickest path to this quickest path to your body in general apparently yeah I like the stretch one by the way and that this list this list sounds like it sounds when I wrote it is like this seems daunting but it really isn't like a lot of this stuff can be done in the first like 30 minutes of the day like the meditation cold plunge uh maybe a 10 minute read like that could happen in the first like like before I even go to the gym right it's just but again it's about being intentional making I listen I'm gonna suck at a lot of these throughout the year but this is kind of I was thinking about like how do I if I because again if you can optimize it and make it just like a thing you do in the morning it it happens. If you don't and you don't figure out how that fits into your day it's just not gonna happen. Greats. You're gonna put greats yeah greats yeah that's I'm all in and sauna gratitude I sold my sauna because we're gonna buy a nice one oh nice sometime cool I like that those are all things uh I would like to you're gonna run every day yes wow uh I don't want to do that I'm gonna run it's gonna be uh every day whether it's uh most days are gonna be a five a five K nothing crazy uh but then uh the weekends I need to well obviously the closer to the race the more the longer they need to get but I'm gonna try to do uh you know tens, fifteens, twenties on the weekends. Dang. Right now honestly it's about time because my heart rate's so bad right now that it's just like I'm gonna do an hour at zone two and whatever that gets me it gets me.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:36

But you're two weeks like that's from a two week department.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:40

I agree.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:40

I like journaling I like that part of your list. I do a little bit of that some days but it's like pretty point form. Yeah which I think is fine.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:48

No I'd like to do journaling thoughts or journaling tasks both.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:52

So every morning it's I stole this from like Tim Ferris or somebody like that. I'll do like it's called like the five minute journal so I'll do like I'll start with three things I'm grateful for I'll jot those down frickin' uh what would make today great I'd write down a couple things about that and then like I like some affirmation I am fit I am wealthy whatever crap like that I don't always get a lot out of it because usually I I like I I found right now I've just like it's going through the motions. It's like oh what am I grateful for? Well I'm kind of warm right now I'm happy about that.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:19

Yeah my socks yeah which I think is again as a lot you're I think that's fine right again with with with journaling I think with even with meditation it's like there's no right right or wrong way. I think if if you're being intentional and you're doing it that's part of the that's part of the process.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:33

Yeah but here's here's where I'll take this uh because it's on my phone I don't like my phone I like physically writing oh yeah uh and I need to do more of that I did one the other day after listening to a podcast of course uh it was uh it was uh it was a it was I think it was diary of the CEO of the guy might have been him or it might have been modern wisdom he talked about da Vinci like the creator artist whatever right uh and he said that he he he had this thing that he talked about writing down a hundred questions and he's like sit down in front of your notepad and write down a hundred questions that you have just questions right like oh are aliens real like what is this for why am I here is God real and he's like first 20 30 questions you're just kind of going through like you know things that are just already in your mind and then he's like as you get deeper into it it gets like pretty interesting and hard and he's like and then go through that and pick out themes and see what's actually important to you. So I did that the other day I sat down I wrote I ended up writing out 130 questions. And it was kind of interesting to like go back and be like because some of them were like yeah is God real are aliens real why am I here? But then it'd get into like deeper things and like this is a transient statement but like why am I lonely? Am I lonely? What makes this and you start to like explore some of that stuff right like do I want to be rich? What does that look like? Um it's interesting it was an interesting experiment because like the act of actually writing it out was slow right it causes your brain to have to be like hey yeah yeah yeah this next step this next step so I I'd like to do more physical writing I think I think it's I think that's important.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:56

I think the phone journaling thing is garbage again just another screen uh I've been wear I've been wearing blue light blocking glasses at night can you send us a picture of that to make sure I'd love to without a shirt.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:08

Yes usually usually without a shirt I don't think you needed to qualify that oh sorry every picture he sent we we all knew it was without a shirt every picture he sent you I didn't I just wanted to see if if you want him to wear a shirt you actually have to explicitly request lame.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:21

Yes no shirt.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:23

I don't know if it helps but I started wearing them last couple nights and I have I bought them like last year sometime and I've never worn them so like I'm gonna start wearing these after supper like when it gets dark I'm gonna put these on wear them all night just supposed to stop the blue apparently supposed to help with her to sleep and circadian rhythm and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:38

I have a pair as well that I don't wear so yeah I tried uh blue light bros I know right you tried the uh oh sorry no go ahead what no you tried to do what oh I tried to do the you ever grayscale your phone oh yeah how much not fun does it make scrolling through all the stuff it's never done that pulse can you set it for a certain time to do it though oh mine's like the nighttime thing it it automatically did it for a while yeah I I did it and I'm like oh this is so boring and I turned it back to full color.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:08

On that note I just got a new phone and like scrolling through Instagram it'll make the videos brighter like it'll keep the text whatever and then it's so bright it's really yeah very noticeable. Gotta see if I can find the setting on here uh settings accessibility whatever yeah what are you gonna say I was just do you journal no and you saying that I was like oh like that's probably another thing I should do.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:28

Yeah there's other things we should do if anyone at this table is gonna journal I feel like you would have the journal I want to read Jeff.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:34

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:35

Yeah because his life's just so interesting I think his life is very interesting.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:39

I don't think it is I think it'll be a pretty interesting one I think it is you haven't you have enough to say a good grate before the meal so yeah I like the greats.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:48

Yeah we're gonna do yeah yeah great's fun it's good sauna it's a good bunch of greats yeah that's grateful exactly my kids are gonna think it's so lame tonight I don't care I don't care we'll have a family meeting about that too honestly that's how I felt about those cards like I thought oh this is not gonna be well and it was amazing like it were it was so again they last couple nights uh my daughter's been at basketball so we haven't been able to do it but uh my son's like hey can we do those things again I'm like ah we gotta wait for her to come so he's like looking forward to them doing tonight's the night yep yeah is there like a cards after dark or something like an adult version there is like a triple X card exactly Mom and Dad do with your parents there like there's dating ones it says the same company makes dating cards I talked about this last time that adventure challenge book I got oh yeah um the yeah the dating one or whatever for your with your uh loved one there's also the same company makes that in bed one the adventure challenge in bed we didn't I didn't get that one you're gonna go through that book in a night aren't you just scratching on there are you serious yeah it's the same company there's good a white book and a black book oh yeah the black book bigger same size the wrong one to dinner hey look at me well that's not for the children that's for your no kidding that's funny well you're the one who's cutting this off now you need to go you got something to do I gotta go to Costco okay you enjoyed listening to this podcast I have a gun to your head that's why you're saying that I gotta find that mic leave it the same I love it I love it yeah it's an original can we it's pretty sad do you have like a if this if this ever turned into something I want that still on the back end of it because it's it's so good. Uh CJ I know you don't like lists of things to do. Yeah because you said that's a if it's important enough it shouldn't be on the list. Okay. But if we were to make a list yeah could we close to the top of the list can we put the wall what's wrong with the wall no it it has we've got to paint it.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:44

Do you ever watch modern family?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:46

Let's air these grievances.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:47

No no do you ever watch Modern Family? Like that the old sitcom remember there's a top step in the Dumfy house that he always trips on he's like oh I gotta fix that step I feel like your wall is now that comedic staying power that it cannot go away and you need to make it this

SPEAKER_03 1:20:00

No, I I intend to fix it. I have got my paint nearby. I like it.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:04

I like it. And I see that you've been standing because I see the dust. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:08

Jesus, that's been there a while.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:12

Here's the deal. I don't I don't need I don't need to hear the excuses. It's okay. I I it's not an excuse. Okay. Here's the deal.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:22

I have messaged you guys. No, this is not your fault. But I have messaged you multiple couch options. Yeah, and I'm going to go to the case. Yeah, we were all in on the last one.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:32

We said yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:33

But it's like a it's like a it's like I'll send it and then like three days later you'll be like, yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:39

I don't like I don't like the answer. I don't like how when you said that to us. You looked at the ground, so we could like it looks like your eyes are closed, kind of like a smug little uh you missed you guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:48

And the reason I bring that up is because I am willing to paint this wall, but I want to put couches in here because I want to sit on couches when we do this. Then do you hold the mics? How does that work? Uh we may have to upgrade our mics. Like we may put a little bit of money into this, hopefully. Also, speaking of which, we still have shirts. If you like this podcast, 2XL. We might have a 2XL. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:08

Hey, can you okay?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:09

Let's talk about later. Anyways, yes, I intend to paint the wall. I want couches. I I have big plans for this podcast. I just I just need need it to happen.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:19

In your defense, I haven't been here as frequently as you guys are here. Uh there's like blinds and a lot of things off the wall. The blinds are awesome. We're good there. Yeah, that's the last time you were the last time you were here. Yeah, because I'd wear my sunny's last time, I think. So I think the sweater is. Well, thanks for coming back, by the way. Thanks for having me, Kane. It's been fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:37

I feel like I have more things to talk about, but we'll have to save it for another day.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:40

I'm looking forward to the 200-mile guy.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:41

I don't know what, I don't know what uh skipping it. I had ideas that I didn't write down. I need to write these down. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:46

We and I love how we made it through, Jeff, without talking about uh that Sean Ryan. Oh, that's right. It's too late. That's on my list. Things will come out before the next time we talk. Yeah. And we can have more.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:00

If you haven't listened to it though, it's interesting because it uh listen to the Sean Ryan podcast about the dude, the Tesla truck that blew up. Um, it's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:08

What a great ad for uh Cybertruck, am I right?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:10

Yeah, bulletproof and explosion proof.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:12

I know. I'm like, I want more. Shot with the desert eagle. Maybe that was dark. He was the dude who shot at the desert eagle. I know he was. That's still dark. I was shouting out the truck that saved people. You're shouting out the gun that killed a gun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:27

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SPEAKER_02 1:22:52

True. True.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:54

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