.png)
The Average Superior Podcast
This show features three nursing home attendants who have realized their brains are incomplete and their bodies are always in pain. They are peasants outside the castle walls attempting to navigate a world that feels rigged while simultaneously trying to be 1000% sure about things they know nothing about!
The Average Superior Podcast
# 60: Artificial Intelligence and Parental Guidance Ratings
Did you know there are roughly 2x10 ^23 (200 sextillion stars) in the observable universe.
We talk about this (incorrectly of course), AI, what words you'd say to your past self if you could only say 3 words, parental guidance and more in our latest episode.
Email us here: average.superior@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/averagesuperior/
Connect with us on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/AverageSuperior
Welcome to the Average Superior Podcast. If you enjoy our show, consider heading over to our Instagram account at Average Superior and checking out the link in the bio. From there, you can show your support by donating a small amount per month to help us cover costs. We appreciate listening and hope that you enjoy the episode as much as we enjoyed recording it.
SPEAKER_03:Hellingway said there is nothing noble in being superior to your brother. Everyone feels the same way you do. Alright? What you do right now makes a difference.
SPEAKER_07:The rap is my kid's second favorite.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you I made one, but you made one as well.
SPEAKER_07:I I like the one I did. Um you have the app, don't you? Did you get the app?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Okay. I have a crappy earphone, so it might take.
SPEAKER_02:I can play it on your yours if you want.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, there you go. It's so different. Oh, it's so much fun. What did they do that at school all day?
SPEAKER_08:Oh, this is how you found out about it.
SPEAKER_07:Like, I got all my kids like, hey, check this out. And he played me a song about how I went bald, and I'm like, What is this? And he's like, Well, he made it. It takes two seconds, and they did they they just messed around with that at school all day.
SPEAKER_08:What prompt did you give that?
SPEAKER_07:Uh the this the one I for the rap song, it was uh write a rap Tupac style about three best friends who have a podcast, and these are their names, and I just put the names in. And that's it. That's it. Yeah, and then it took 10 seconds.
SPEAKER_02:So I put more specific things. I put like the name of the podcast, obviously, and then like some of them I put I played around with that. I put like uh podcasts with hosts so-and-so, talk about resilience, doing hard things, cold plunging aliens, conspiracy theories, just like a whole bunch of different things to see what it would throw together. Isn't it the best? It's so interesting, and it's like it's addicting. I find I find that the like from a musical perspective, I think the country is the best one, meaning like it it sounds like it could be a song that like even like because it's just like because country is pretty simple music. It's pretty simple, it's like catchy, twangy, whatever. But uh, I find that the rap one I made is kind of eh, and the rock ones pretty cheesy.
SPEAKER_07:But I made a lot of rap ones about the nursing home and and the people I work with.
SPEAKER_02:That's a good one.
SPEAKER_07:And then uh the rap ones I found even if I put in you know this style of person, I I did a biggie one, they're all the same, they all sound very similar. Um, but the rock and uh metal ones, you can really get good variety.
SPEAKER_02:You can uh play with like it's not just rap, like this one is hip hop experimental, and so it's kind of it's it's interesting illustrated.
SPEAKER_07:That's the best top thing is that this you would hear this song like just a regular okay six out of ten radio song. It sounds like that.
SPEAKER_08:But if you wanted to take the chorus of that experimental hip hop song and make it the outro for this podcast, well, or just a new song every single time because it takes two seconds to make. Yeah, it'd be pretty hilarious. And stay tuned for our new song. I like that. We might we might keep some viewers a little bit longer. Yeah. Listeners, whatever they are.
SPEAKER_07:Well, I don't know if we can really replace the uh the the current outro we have.
SPEAKER_08:I think we just put that in the middle. You know a lot of podcasts have like ad breaks in the middle.
SPEAKER_07:Our ad brace is an AI song. All right.
SPEAKER_08:Oh, you want to put the assault? I I thought we just put JB's hostage taking in the in the middle. Yeah.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_07:So yeah, the app is uh or you got you, I just did the website, but you have the app on your phone now, right?
SPEAKER_02:I got I downloaded the app, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Sono?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you get like I think it was 10 free songs. I don't know if it's a seems like a day. I don't know. And you can play with obviously all the prompts and change change the we can actually go in and change the lyrics if you wanted to change like specific words. Oh my god. Um you can you can get crazy with it, but I was just like, uh it's blown away. I'm blown away by some of like how good some of these are. Like they're not that they're not that bad.
SPEAKER_07:They some of them have humor, like actual jokes inside that are just organic that they make.
SPEAKER_02:I'm trying to find the line in here. Uh there's I said nursing home, and it said uh something about bedpans. It's hilarious. I love AI.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, this is it is addicting and fun.
SPEAKER_02:It is such a Oh. Uh okay. Lost in nursing home, lost in the nursing home chasing aliens and dreams, conspiracies twined with the everyday grind, in between bedpans, sanity's hard to find.
SPEAKER_08:Jeez. Crazy. Crazy that you can just feed it one to two lines of text. Completely.
SPEAKER_07:That's that's all the the best one for the the nursing home team at Oakworth is like it was a rap one, and it's instructors carving heroes, brick by brick, they raise, build them up solid for the toughest days.
SPEAKER_02:Nice.
SPEAKER_07:And like just that it's really cool that it just does that.
SPEAKER_02:It's insane. So then I so then I was like, okay, I was like, I want to check out I wanna check Grok on something. So then I did that. I said, write a blog about the average superior podcast. That's all I said. I didn't add anything in it, and it wrote a pretty hilarious, like pretty decent description of the freaking podcast.
SPEAKER_07:Like you just put in I literally podcasts above the podcast.
SPEAKER_02:I just said the average superior podcast, that's all I said. Uh, and then it I'm not gonna read all of it because it's long, but I read them the way something. It says like uh here we go. It says in the vast ocean of podcasting where voices from every corner of the world share their stories, insights, and experience, there's a niche for those seeking not just entertainment, but also personal growth. Enter the average superior podcast, a concept that might seem oxymoronic at first, but it actually embodies a powerful message. Everyone has the potential to be extraordinary in their own way. Jesus. I like it. Crazy. And then it goes on for like two pages.
SPEAKER_07:Like five five years ago, we had to pay someone to make all those songs. Completely write that thing.
SPEAKER_08:Completely. Grok would have had to have accessed our Twitter.
SPEAKER_02:Uh, that, and I think it looked like it pulled something from that uh um coffee, buy me a coffee back in that we had long a long time ago. Right. Um, because it referenced that later on.
SPEAKER_08:And that's that is buy me a coffee is at the end when you're please buy me a coffee. I don't think we even have that anymore. Just buy me a coffee. We sold the account, I get emails from that. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_07:That's amazing.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, interesting. Anyway. One of the many tools that you can use AI for.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and that's where I'm like, that's why I don't you probably need to look at your messages, but I was like, what are we, why are we working? We should be like using AI to write stuff on the internet. Who wants to read that? I don't but like I started thinking like from the from if you could have some sort of like ghost account where you just did reviews on things, but you don't actually have to write anything. You just could say, hey, review uh this book and like post it. Like people read that stuff. It's great. It'd be like I don't obviously you'd have to have a following to make it worthwhile or to make any money at it, but it's interesting, like the idea, because if you could if you could like capitalize on the thing, the happening thing in the moment, like whatever, like a new book that pops up, maybe a controversial one, and you can say, Hey, write me a review, a positive review for this book, write me a negative review for this book, write me a extremely negative review. You could do like seven different versions of a review and just post them.
SPEAKER_08:But what uh yeah, you totally could, and that's gonna happen. And then how do you filter all that noise? You can't. That's the problem with the internet. And that's just gonna make the desire for authors authenticity even higher.
SPEAKER_02:True. Yeah, true, but again, how are you gonna prove that? That that's the hard part about all this, right? Um I I just don't understand how at a certain point in time with all of this in our hands, how do we prove authenticity with anything at some at a certain point? Like and even you could say, well, I I want to see him like writing it, or I want to see them saying the words, but that can be faked. Like to a reasonable degree now, and think five years from now, you could literally have your face saying a thing, and you it's how almost indistinguishable between real and not real.
SPEAKER_08:2025 is gonna be a crazy year. 2026 is gonna be even crazier.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I just like projection of of technology into like five years from now. What is that? I don't have a clue.
SPEAKER_08:I I don't think you can.
SPEAKER_02:No, I like the quantity start you start adding, especially if you start adding quantum computing, if that becomes a thing that is like the technology becomes good enough where it can become commercialized and not like I think right now it's so expensive and so fragile that you can't really I don't think it can be done in a commercial um mass production way, but that could easily happen.
SPEAKER_08:I think quantum computing w from what I've read, we're probably 10 to 15 years off. Yeah, they say that, but yeah. But you did you hear about Google's uh quantum computing breakthrough a few weeks ago? I don't know. Basically, Google had a like a quantum computer that did X number of qubits, I'd have to look it up, right?
SPEAKER_07:I'm trying to read that. I think it's called high level.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, that doesn't matter. They just they had something, and so people were were really concerned in that if you have a quantum computer that can write that can like uh solve, you know, like the for example the Bitcoin algorithm, right? Everybody suddenly has like at a huge risk of losing all their money. Right. Except it would take so so many like thousands or millions of years. I really wish Jason you could find some of the things. I'm reading, I'm trying to read.
SPEAKER_07:I'm reading something about qubits right now, how many qubits it is? I'm like, I don't know what the fuck is that.
SPEAKER_08:I have a I actually have a much better research post on my Twitter about it. Okay. Okay. But basically, we're pretty far off because the computing power of Google's quantum computer right now is still not even remotely close enough to solve that algorithm in any of our lifespans.
SPEAKER_02:Interesting. Uh that that's probably true, but then there's things like just basic security for bank accounts and other things become a gigantic issue. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:Solve my numerical password.
SPEAKER_02:If it it like just instantly.
SPEAKER_08:Instantly. And the reason that works, I think I can at least explain this one. Uh instead of these days, right, you have you try one password and then sequentially you try the next one. Right. This one just tries them all at the same time. Completely.
SPEAKER_07:Well, that's let's just explain it that way because I can't understand.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's like uh I have a gener uh a password generator for like new accounts and stuff, and I try to use new ones for everything and just save them in this um Express VPN. And it shows you like how long is uh I think it's hypothetical how long it would take for someone to crack that password given the amount of numbers and different things happening in it. Uh and so like I use ones where it's like, oh, it would take centuries to crack. But as soon as there's a quantum computing, that changes to literally seconds.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, because it can it can explore every state at the same time, which some have said that quantum computing is proof of the multiverse. Right. Uh given that that's the only way that that could happen. Which I find really interesting.
SPEAKER_07:Imagine the super cool rap song we can make after quantum computing comes through. Oh my god. You could make all of the rap songs, you can make all of them at the same time.
SPEAKER_02:That's that's what was the name of that TV show on Apple about the multiverse or oh, that we just recently watched. Yeah, it's exting in different planes of reality. Dark matter? Yes, dark matter. That show was good. It just blew my mind. Like just it just it was a neat idea, and just yeah, anyway. That that's just kind of like a whole multiverse idea, and then being in that cube, they could literally pop out any door and they don't know where they're at. It was interesting.
SPEAKER_08:Have you recently looked at how many stars and galaxies are in our universe? 33.
SPEAKER_07:I checked, I checked last week, but I mean what a has it gone up? Is that is that something we know? No, they can't. They can't know. You cannot know.
SPEAKER_08:But the number is so staggeringly large. And the reason I bring that up is that like I mean the theory is that there is a version of you doing this exact same thing currently somewhere else in the galaxy, because like numerically it like there's so many, like it would just have to be a lot of different things.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, but that's what that's what I'm confused about. Okay. So explain the multiverse to me. So I I can see what you're saying. So somewhere out like there's an another thing, another thing away, away from like a whatever, how far away from us out there. But then in my mind, that's not multiverse. In my mind, that's like happening here and now in a different place. Correct. Versus like multiverse is like somehow these things are overlapping yet unable to interact with each other. Um like, but it's just like the earth is the earth just in a billion different times. It's the same galaxy in a different place. So that's different. Yes.
SPEAKER_08:We're doing a great job of exploring.
SPEAKER_07:There is there's it is just a general range of galaxies between 200 billion and two trillion. So somewhere in that ballpark, and they are all like up to 100,000 parsecs, which is from Star Wars, in diameter. So like three 300,000 light years width wide.
SPEAKER_02:First of all, I think parsecs was before Star Wars. Wasn't the Kessel run? Sure, but I'm just saying it was like a unit of measurement. Well, the first pick I heard it was parse parsecs.
SPEAKER_08:Hold on, give me those numbers again.
SPEAKER_07:Okay, 200 billion to two trillion galaxies.
SPEAKER_08:How many stars are in each of those galaxies?
SPEAKER_07:It doesn't say there's gonna be about 200 trillion stars in the universe. Or 200, sorry, 200 billion stars in the in the universe, but per this. Okay, so 200 sextillion stars. Yes, there we go. That's such what is a sextillion? How many zeros?
SPEAKER_08:There's so many zeros behind that number. Sextillion. How many zeros?
SPEAKER_07:It's like a weird monster. Sextillion.
SPEAKER_08:Oh my gosh. That's a lot of stars. This is uh cosmology with J B C J and Jason.
SPEAKER_07:Oh yeah, it's a thousand raised to the seventh power. Okay, just add how many zeros? I don't know. Just look up how many zeros. 217. No, 21.
SPEAKER_08:Why don't you use AI to answer some of these things?
SPEAKER_07:Because Google's just, I don't know. 21.
SPEAKER_08:Google's garbage. At least use Gemini.
SPEAKER_07:Okay. It's free. Okay, sorry, 21 zeros? 21 zeros, yeah. 21 zeros and geez, that's a lot.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:So that many stars, hypothetically, in a in a unit or in a galaxy that we do not yet know actually how big it is because it's still the observable unit.
SPEAKER_02:Apparently it's expanding still, too.
SPEAKER_08:I don't know how many parsecs wide it is. Uh but the observable universe is anywhere from like 13 uh how old is it? 13 billion years old? Who knows? To like 23 billion years, whatever.
SPEAKER_02:8,000 years, if it's Mel Gibson's asking.
SPEAKER_08:Okay. I think he's wrong. That's so many chances for things to happen. Yeah. For sure. It's it's it's uncomprehendable. I don't even know if that's a word.
SPEAKER_02:It is, I don't know, but incomprehensible.
SPEAKER_08:I know what you're saying. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:If they can master quantum computing, then the it's essentially limitless, is what that we could do with technology. I think so. Like there's no there's just limitless. We would probably solve light speed travel.
SPEAKER_08:Can you solve faster than light travel?
SPEAKER_07:I don't know. I don't well, yeah. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Don't think you can travel faster than the speed of light. I really unless there's wor without wormholes. Like if there's wormholes, that's different, I think.
SPEAKER_08:I wish I had paid much more attention in high in physics. Yeah, you wouldn't have answered you still couldn't. We'd be in the same spot. We'd be in the exact same spot. I find these questions interesting, and I don't have the language to talk about it. Then go back to school and take an astronomy class. That's not the answer. I don't want to look at stars.
SPEAKER_07:What is the study of is astronomy is the study of stars? What's the study of like the the space and the parsecs? What's that study called? Astronomy? Is it just astronomy?
SPEAKER_08:It might be astrology. Is this no no no? No. What's cosmology? My gosh, where's that cosmetic stuff?
SPEAKER_07:That's cosmetology. That's closed. Fucking. We are not smart at all. Cosmology. Look at you. Cosmology is the study the origin developed, blah, blah, blah, the entire universe. Yep. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, fuck. There's a person out there having this conversation that actually knows what they're talking about, and it's a cosmopolitan.
SPEAKER_08:Well, that person. The person, there's hypothetically in our 20, how many sextillion? Two sextillion? Twenty sextillion?
SPEAKER_07:200.
SPEAKER_08:In our 200 sextillion. Because you assume a star, let's so a star you then assume um uh like a what the fuck? What are we in? A solar system, thank you.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, we're getting there.
SPEAKER_08:If you assume each of those stars has a solar system, there is a version of this podcast currently being recorded where all three of us are cosmologists. Yeah, but yeah, but here uh like numerically. I would rather listen to that one, I feel.
SPEAKER_07:No, it wouldn't be as funny. Imagine their rap song. Do we know any cosmologists? That would be amazing to have somebody like that.
SPEAKER_08:Dude, it would be amazing to have anybody on here with any type of educational credential.
SPEAKER_07:Oh my gosh. It'd be too much.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I have a bachelor's of science.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, you you got you got a four-year, you got the letters after your name. Yeah, B S C. Can you put letters after your name if you have a diploma? Uh no.
SPEAKER_08:I have I have a bachelor of professional arts in nursing homing.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, there you oh, there you go. That's you can put letters after your name.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah. B P A.
SPEAKER_02:Sure.
SPEAKER_07:Uh it looks like you can't put letters after my name. All right.
SPEAKER_02:Can you just put diploma?
SPEAKER_07:I should. G E D. You know I'm gonna I'm gonna adjust that email signature tomorrow. G E D. G E D. Took me five years to get a two year diploma. I'm gonna put that out there.
SPEAKER_08:My achiever. Yeah. If you went back to school. We're not smart. No.
SPEAKER_07:But if you went back to school for cosmology, you could put a BSC behind your if you could go into another universe and just or whatever, time travel and go back, what would you take in school? Like out of high school.
SPEAKER_08:Uh if I could do that without having like considerations of like a reality of a like a like a job that provides income.
SPEAKER_07:Generally get your knowledge. What would you go? Physics.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_07:Not me.
SPEAKER_02:You would have to retain your uh what's the word I'm looking for? Uh your discipline or your need or your want to learn that, though. You know what I mean? Like if you went back in time, like that puts you back to like you're 19 again, whatever. So your 19-year-old stupid self probably still doesn't want to learn physics.
SPEAKER_08:No, dude. Actually, I was supremely interested in math and physics. Okay. I was just too much of a shithead to go to high school.
SPEAKER_02:That's my point. Because you can become that person again if you go back in time to 19. I know. So how do you transport the you, the the desires of you at you can't.
SPEAKER_08:Okay. You can't.
SPEAKER_02:You if you you cannot so no, if you think do you think if you were able to time travel, so we're here today, you could time travel back in time uh and become your younger self. Do you retain the knowledge of you in the present when you go back to the past? Oh, I'd be indestructible to relive. I would fucking own everything.
SPEAKER_08:I would have so much Bitcoin. Oh, dude.
SPEAKER_02:All the stocks. So yeah, could you get so I guess that's the question is as you time travel, are you retaining your knowledge as you go back?
SPEAKER_07:Well, what time travel rules are we using here? I don't know because we're just shit up here. Does it happen like he cut he goes to a second Curtis type thing? Are there two Curtisses now if he time travels? Yeah, I think you have to tie up the no.
SPEAKER_02:Do you have to kill the other one? Uh because you need to be like young enough to be like, not back to the future rules. That'd be no problem.
SPEAKER_07:Not back to the future rules, because that that's that's two Marty McFlies. I don't know how to do it. No, was there two Marty McFlies? I don't know. What?
SPEAKER_08:You haven't got back to the summarize it for me.
SPEAKER_02:It's just great. You went back to the DeLorean and they make a time machine. I get that. And he has a crush on his mom. That's about it. That's weird. Uh number two is the best, by the way. You know what it is?
SPEAKER_08:Do you think if you went back to when you were 19, like how easy it would be to kill 19-year-old you? Yeah. Like it'd be it'd be embarrassing for 19-year-old.
SPEAKER_07:I have no idea what you're I I well emotionally, I don't think I could do it all. Obviously, right?
SPEAKER_02:No, he's just saying physically. Oh, yes, yeah. Your 19-year-old self was a pansy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Like a 15-year-old self, too. I could I could take I could take my 15-year-old self easier than that.
SPEAKER_08:Uh, if you could go back to your 19-year-old self and say three words, what would you say? You can only say three words.
SPEAKER_02:Bitcoin? Yeah, I just say Bitcoin. Um I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_08:Okay, well, you need two more. Like, let's go.
SPEAKER_07:Well, buy Bitcoin.
SPEAKER_08:Okay, you need one more. Clock's ticking, you're about to get pulled.
SPEAKER_07:Buy Bitcoin hold.
SPEAKER_08:Ooh, I like it. There you go. That's it. That's that's the message.
SPEAKER_07:That is that is pretty good. I like that.
SPEAKER_08:Okay.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. I I don't have a clue.
SPEAKER_08:No, you said one. Give me two more.
SPEAKER_07:You can't give them a goal in three words.
SPEAKER_08:Like you can't give him a you have you have this unique opportunity to go back and talk to your former self, but the clock is ticking, you can say three words, and then you get yanked back to the present. What are you saying? Bitcoin? And you can't say buy Bitcoin hold. Buy Bitcoin hold. Fuck, you are so unclean.
SPEAKER_07:What would you say?
SPEAKER_08:Yeah. Uh Bitcoin, Tesla, NVIDIA.
SPEAKER_07:And just assuming they would know what that is, first off.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, for the rest of their life, they're like, I just got this code and I don't know what it is.
SPEAKER_08:And me being the asshole that I am, I at this point I'd be like, fuck, I figured out what he meant, and it's too late.
SPEAKER_02:Uh his is the best one because like not only is he saying you need to buy it, but don't sell it.
SPEAKER_07:But then hold, like, we don't know what's gonna be like I could screw myself over.
SPEAKER_02:No. Because I think if you held till now and you had 38 billion dollars, you probably would sell some and make some money.
SPEAKER_07:But I'm such an overthinker, I'd be like, well, if I sell it, maybe I'll die or something. That's why my future self was trying to warn me, and then I wouldn't sell, and then I'd be poor again.
SPEAKER_02:Did you ever watch the okay, I know it's known for you. Did you ever watch the uh TV show Heroes?
SPEAKER_07:No, my wife did. Um I know you you've talked about it before. You like it, hey?
SPEAKER_02:Is it a time travel? There was a character whose whose ability was to time travel, and it was interesting. Anyway.
SPEAKER_07:What are those time travel rules?
SPEAKER_02:I don't remember. Nah.
SPEAKER_08:Do you ever watch the show? Uh oh god. It was this I can't believe I just forgot the name. It was on the tip of my tongue. Is it with the character for or the guy from the X-Files? I think.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, Californication. No, fuck. Well, that's the that is the guy from the X-Files, and it's the show.
SPEAKER_02:It was so good. It is California Cation.
SPEAKER_07:Is it the the guy, the guy from X-Files?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I think I by the way, I think I watched all of that show. California Cation or X-Files? California Cation.
SPEAKER_07:You liked X-Files, I guess.
SPEAKER_02:It may not even be uh I never got into X-Files. I feel like I want to watch it. When it started, I didn't watch it at the beginning, and then by the time I think I don't know, but I think the time I think I cared at it.
SPEAKER_08:Will and Grace. What's the guy's name from Will and Grace? Will.
SPEAKER_07:Will Arnett? No, Will. His name is Will something. Will from Will and Grace.
SPEAKER_02:I never watched that show.
SPEAKER_08:His name is Eric McCormick. Big fan, actually. Okay, what's the point? Well, the point I'm fucking getting to it is the point. Uh because he was in a show that I really enjoyed.
SPEAKER_07:This has really traveled a long way from your initial.
SPEAKER_08:Have you watched it? A movie? TV show, three series. I don't think so. Travelers. It's actually really good. Is it time travel? Uh yeah, kind of. I have watched the series twice. Uh that's how good I find it.
SPEAKER_07:Not watch Braveheart, but watch Travelers twice. Travelers twice. You watch six seasons of Travelers.
SPEAKER_08:I watch shit I'm interested in. So basically, an AI from the future sends people back to the present to try and prevent future like disasters. Okay.
SPEAKER_07:I like that. Well, that's kind of cool.
SPEAKER_08:Uh it was it was really good. I'm surprised it was canceled. Recommended if you're Especially if you're watching it like two or three times. That's like the Expanse. I've watched that twice. I fucking I'm a nerd, bro.
SPEAKER_07:Got an eight out of ten. I like the expanse.
SPEAKER_08:I should rewatch the expanse. Is it the expanse or the espanse? Have you read all the books yet? No. Read some books, bro.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I know, but I've been prioritizing nonfiction mostly.
SPEAKER_08:Mm-hmm. Fiction in the morning. Or sorry, non-fiction in the morning, fiction at night. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Then when do I watch TV and play video games? You don't.
SPEAKER_07:But you had a chance today, but you were just making AI songs. That's very true.
SPEAKER_02:I have a flower, and then that you sent me that one song, and the rest of my time disappeared.
SPEAKER_07:It was, I spent a good 10 minutes. I'm like, I have to put this down, or I'm gonna get sucked into it, and I made supper, and then listen to all your songs you made, my family did during supper. After we did great.
SPEAKER_08:Oh, you've been doing great.
SPEAKER_07:Every day my kids love it. We take a turn, so it's like tonight was my wife's turn, and then the kids' turns like you know, once a night, and they love it. And then the problem is my daughter always says amen at the end of great, and I'm like, no, like you like you don't have to, but like you know, it's stop. But you can, but you can, but you can, it's nothing wrong with it, but stop. And she says she says great every time. But yeah, the kids love it. And it it's our friend Jeff deserves a big pat on the back. That's a great great name for the the great Grace.
SPEAKER_08:Uh does yeah, average superior deserves like a high five for like a we should trademark that. Yeah, okay. Have you been doing it?
SPEAKER_02:Uh we do those card things when we're all together.
SPEAKER_08:So no, yeah, I've been doing greats.
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_07:Like I love the card things though.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the card things are awesome. Uh, but lately it's been hard to be all just because everyone's so busy like tonight. We we rushed through Supper tonight, and then uh my daughter has two basketball practices, and last night was judo and something else. Oh, I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_07:I hear you might be uh interested in some judoing yourself.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you are okay.
SPEAKER_07:Here's the problem.
SPEAKER_02:That's cool. Oh, that's a new thing. It is literally brand new. So last night was the first night I took my kid to judo. Uh we were doing MMA before that. We thought try something different for a while. Um, but I wanted him to do combat sports, so I thought judo would be good. First of all, it's a lot more structured and whatever. So uh and we know guys who do judo and they're animals, so I thought it'd be really good. Uh I went there first day. Uh he shows up to the class, and the class is they put him in a different class with this one kid who's like the exact same age, brand new as well, and they kind of want the two of them to drill together to get to yellow belt, and then from yellow belt change different to a different class. That being said, he shows up and he's like like literally everyone else is 18 plus, except for this one kid. So once he saw that other kid, he was fine. But so now I'm watching this uh hour and a half practice, and I was just itching. I'm like, I should I why am I watching I could be doing this? Like, why am I watching this when I could be doing this? Because it a lot of it, honestly, is such like I will know a lot of it just because of there's a ton of crossover with jujitsu, but even just from the nursing home, like some of the stuff we do with uh our friend, uh, he's taught a lot of the things that I'm like I was watching. So they're basically doing like Scarfled Side Control uh and then escapes from there, and then like just I'm like, oh like I need I was just like struggling like watching the techniques, and I'm like, it's just it was just like techniques that are just they're very similar to jujitsu, like uh just giuitsu. Um, other than the takedowns are quite a bit different than trips and stuff. But I'm like, if I'm gonna be here Mondays and Wednesdays watching him for an hour and a half, why am I not just doing it? So you signed up for a membership. I will be tomorrow.
SPEAKER_07:How's that work? You go with the same same class exactly.
SPEAKER_02:So that's the that's that's the convenient part of it, is literally it's the same class. So if I if it meant that I had to come back like in an hour, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do it. Just it's not convenient, it's just too much time. But I literally have to drive my kid there, wait for him, because it's too far away from my house to go back home and then come back and get him. So I have to sit there and wait, wait anyway. I'm like, I might as well, and it's only from now till May for the session. So I'm like, I might as well sign up and just do the classes.
SPEAKER_08:So is he done with jujitsu now then?
SPEAKER_02:Uh for now, yeah. Yeah, he's gonna do judo till probably for the whole year, and then we'll kind of see where where he's at after that. And because he didn't want to do jujitsu now. No, he'll he still liked it, but um respectfully, like I really like the gym we were at, but just the kid classes are so chaotic and not very well structured. Like they do their best, but it's just like we talked about this before, but like the older martial arts, like karate taekwondo, um, the ones that are kind of more established and they're very they're a lot more structure-based. Like, for example, he shows up uh to this one, and right away, this is actually I just felt I was really happy with this kid. He's the kid's probably like 18, 19 year old. Uh, he just well he walks up to my kid who's like half his size. He's like, Oh, it's first day. Awesome, man. My name is so-and-so. Nice to meet you, gives him a fist bump. Like, right away, it makes him feel like super welcome. Yeah, and then uh, but then right away he's like, Okay, just so you know, when we step on the mats, we bow, and when we leave the mats, we bow. And then he kind of like rocks him through some couple of different like rules, and then he kind of falls along from there. But like uh, insanely clean gym, like insanely clean gym, and just structured. So at the end of the class, they all line up, they do their little thing where they bow, they do their stuff, and then they're like, Okay, and this is uh so and so, and he's brand new today. It's the first day, everyone like everyone wave and say hi, and so everyone says hi. And he's like, and awesome, because it's your first day, you get them off the mats, and so they walk him over to the mops to show them how to use the mops, and they get him right to work cleaning the mats. Nice. And I'm like, that's that's the kind of thing that I think he needs. I think he just needs that, like, that, you know, the community, the community, number one, but like the structure and the very specific, here's what we're doing today. Uh, don't be screwing around. Like they're they're not like strict per se, but they're very like focused. Uh, whereas a lot of the other MMA gyms I've been to with for kids, it's like hurting cats. It's pandemonium.
SPEAKER_08:It's insanity. I like that your favorite adjective is insanely. Did I say that a lot?
SPEAKER_07:No, a couple times. Okay, sorry. It's all right though. But is there is there crying in this? Uh there's no crying in judo. There's no crying.
SPEAKER_02:It's written on the board. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I don't remember. There's like there's like eight or nine rules.
SPEAKER_08:Is there crying in jujitsu?
SPEAKER_02:Uh well, there I don't know.
SPEAKER_07:Well, if they don't have it on the rules, but there's like it's like it's it's hilarious.
SPEAKER_02:If you're losing, try harder. That's like one of the like one of the rules. Yes, really.
SPEAKER_08:Yes. I I like all of what I'm hearing.
SPEAKER_02:It's amazing, honestly. Like, and I saw actually all those rules on that board that when we went and did that course at there, and I from that from that point, and I mean obviously our our friend Tyler who who is the black belt, like uh he's I've been talking to him for a long time about it, and I just he's coming. It's just been a good time because yeah, right. He will, he'll he'll come on. He won't say anything. I know, but he'll be here in the room. Uh it's um what was I saying? I was just explaining like when we were talking about it, I just is like, hey, this is what I'm thinking, and he's been saying forever, yeah, just come come bring him. But I just oh what I was saying was it was perfect timing because our my membership art for him had just finished there, and so I had to make a decision am I gonna renew for the year because I was paying a year up front, or should we try something different? So and honestly, after as we're driving home, he's like, he's like, Oh, yeah, that was that was amazing. Like, I learned so much more already, just because like he has the ability to like the coach is right there and will answer technique questions. Where I found, and again, no fault of the gym that he was at, but there's it's very hard for one coach to coach 23 kids, and like okay, this is what we're gonna do, here's the technique, okay, go do it. How do you watch all that? You can't, yeah, and you can't you care correct real time, which we we know teaching brand new people. Like, we need more instructors per group, right? So he like they said like they had like four black belts who were instructors there. They have like a bunch of them watching the adults, and one guy alone, like that was dedicated to like hip white white kid and this other kid at his age. Wow.
SPEAKER_07:So I think they're like vol they're volunteers, like they're volunteering their time, I think, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So anyway, tomorrow night I am be throwing on a judo gi. So you bought it, you're gonna buy a judo gi. I have one, but I think it's shrunk too much. I'm gonna have to get another one. Yeah, the thick, thick cotton. Yeah, they're thick. And I'm gonna be trying it out. So okay. Add it to my list of things I'm doing.
SPEAKER_07:This is gonna go uh you're not gonna you're not gonna take this too far. I love all the power.
SPEAKER_02:I'm uh I'm currently at 86 kilometers for the month. I saw that.
SPEAKER_07:I saw you guys yet the morning at like 5 30 a.m. It's good for you guys.
SPEAKER_02:I haven't missed a day yet. I missed one day, but I made it up the day after.
SPEAKER_07:But I saw you today doing some lift.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we're trying not to we we want to keep lifting, so we're gonna be doing Monday, Wednesday, Friday runs in the morning, Tuesday, Thursday lifts in the morning, and then I'll run Tuesday, Thursday night. And then I'm gonna run on the weekend. My long run will be Saturday or Sunday. Um, I also put my name in for a uh race draw, which we'll find out Friday if I got in. Western States in Texas. In Texas. No, it's uh yeah, it's so Nick Bears uh he's bought this ranch and he's he's holding his first annual uh backyard ultra. Okay. Uh go one mark. So it's a 4.2 mile loop every hour until last man standing. When is this? May 24th. Okay.
SPEAKER_08:Should be free.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I if I get it, I'm like, I'm I have this weird feeling that I'm gonna get picked. I don't know why. I'm just like and Tony was supposed to also put in, he forgot. So just my name's in. And I was kind of hoping he would put we both put our names in and he would get it, and then I could just go and and be with like uh corner, corny him. That's not the word.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, but like like yeah, corner.
SPEAKER_02:No, it's not the word. Uh I can't think of it. Anyway, uh is there a name for a cornerman in a race? Crew crew, thank you. Crew of the race. Um anyway, but he didn't put in, so now my hope is that I get it. It would definitely change my training because essentially it's seven, it's six point nine kilometers every hour. So I'd want to be done six point nine kilometers in about 45 minutes. So you give yourself a 15-minute break. 49-50 minutes, 45-50 minutes, which is 100% doable. Like it doesn't sound that bad, but it's like hour after hour after hour after hour until you can't do it anymore.
SPEAKER_08:It's just gonna be good material for the the joggementary. That's right. I can't take credit for it.
SPEAKER_07:Well, well job on that. I can't take credit anyway.
SPEAKER_08:That's what's going on. That's some pretty serious shit, bro.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I honestly like I'm I'm I'm I don't know why. Like I'm you're gonna next time I do a podcast, I'll tell you that I probably didn't get picked, but I'm like weirdly, I feel like I'm gonna get it. When's the draw? Friday.
SPEAKER_08:Not the same feeling you get when you buy a lottery ticket, and you're like, yeah, this is a one. No.
SPEAKER_02:But but I like I have no idea how many people registered. What are your odds registered? I have no idea. I don't know how many people registered, but they'll only pick in 125, so. Okay.
SPEAKER_08:No clue. Are you going to be able to run with an erection?
unknown:No problem.
SPEAKER_07:Well, it's not like Nick is gonna be in front of the whole time.
SPEAKER_08:No problem.
SPEAKER_07:Right?
SPEAKER_08:I'm pretty excited for you. Uh you were just like head first. Yeah, I've uh I've been doing good, I think.
SPEAKER_02:Um I don't know.
SPEAKER_08:It's funny because if I go back three to four episodes in this podcast, it's how it goes.
SPEAKER_02:We're fluid.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, you're very commitment fluid.
SPEAKER_02:But that I okay, I wouldn't say I would just say like I think that's the average person goes through those like obviously times of motivation, which we all know motivation's kind of garbage because it goes away. But that's where it's like you hope you've built in enough discipline that you're still maintaining some, if not most, of the things you want to be doing for sure uh in those down times, which we all go through. Um right now I just feel like I'm in a in a good in on a good spiral up, but yeah, and capitalize on that. Completely like that's no and knowing that, and I guess this is the thing, knowing that you're gonna hit those I don't want to do any of this anymore uh weeks, right? And it's just like still forcing yourself to get up and go.
SPEAKER_08:It's just interesting, like to watch to compare myself to you, which I say carefully because I'm not doing that in any like not actually doing that, but like you and I started running together last year at the same time. Yeah. Yeah, kind of sort of not really, but like we were like pretty much on the same trajectory, and then like to see how much two paths can diverge with just like a little bit of an input.
SPEAKER_02:But that but that's I mean exactly the same. We can say the same thing about jujitsu. I think there was a time when I did a lot more jujitsu than you, or I had done more than you, and then you just got a super consistent for like a couple years, and then you just like went flying off down that direction, which is amazing. But I mean that's just uh and then we have Tony and I have this conversation all the time because he always beats himself up about not being whatever, like I need I want to wish I was more fit or what one of these things. And I'm like, okay, or like more like I wish I had more muscles or whatever the thing is, right? But it's like for me, I started lifting in grade 11. That was a long time ago. And so it's like the process of just doing that off and on, but doing that for that many years, you can't cheat that time. No, you you that you can't.
SPEAKER_08:I mean, I've been lifting weights consistently for 17 years.
SPEAKER_02:Right. And so that's where it's hard, where it's like people who are starting, maybe like just getting going. And if you listen to this and you're trying to get motivated to get going and doing some things, like it's difficult, it's very, it's um, it's good to have someone you can look to and be like, oh, I I want to be more like that person, or I want to whatever the thing is, and not like to idolize them, but to say, like, that's kind of my goal. However, you have to realize that a lot of the most of the time those goals were achieved over a period of 15, 20 years, not not two or three. Like it's not gonna happen that way. Um, and in the end, again, over those how many years I've you've gone I mean, everyone's gone through months, weeks of just doing nothing and you know, losing a bunch of the gains, but again, just that muscle memory and getting back into it, you rebound quicker and quicker the more that your body's used to being trained.
SPEAKER_07:So I don't know, it's just it's it's interesting. I don't think Tony's self-deprecating at all. What are you talking about? Right. You know, love you, love you telling.
SPEAKER_02:I love him so much. But so this is interesting. So I started I'm coaching uh kids basketball right now, too, and we had a first practice on Monday. And man, it really got me thinking about how how lucky and how unlucky people are, meaning the home situation they grow up in or the family that they're born into with no choice of their own, right?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's a roll of the dice.
SPEAKER_02:It and this is where like the idea of um this I think this is where the idea of equity is attractive some people because you can you see some you see somebody who was born in a situation where they were just not given anything and they have nothing. And I see these little these little kids who are like in grade four who I'm just like you have an uphill battle just based on whatever, a whole bunch of things. But you have an upward battle for the rest of your life, and without choices that they make individually, because they're not getting help from their family, without choices that they make individually that they're too young to make, that they have, and again, and in the circumstance that they're in, and in the example that they're in, they're not gonna have the wherewithal to make some of those choices. They're going to be stuck in the in a as bad, if not worse, situation than they're currently were raised in, and then the cycle per continues, right? Um, so this idea of like, yeah, well, we need to bring everyone up to the same level, like doesn't like I can understand the like the human nature side of that's just not possible. It's not possible, but like it I can understand where it's coming from. It's coming from empathy and it's coming from but we want everyone to live a good life and to have the same opportunities. And it's like, but that it's not possible. It it's just and it's heartbreaking when you see it in in the ages of the kids that I see in basketball, like grades four, five, six. When you see it in kids of those ages, it's heartbreaking because you know that it it's not their fault, right? When all of a sudden, though, they turn 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, and they become adults and they are making dumb decisions and they're not being productive. All of a sudden we're angry and we we have lost empathy for them, and we like you do something for yourself, like let's go. Like what you gotta make some good decisions, right? But like it's just very interesting. I just was really like reflecting on that. There's this one kid specifically that I was like, oh man, like I just feel so so bad for like I just feel like how do you become anything?
SPEAKER_07:Like it sounds that sounds bad.
SPEAKER_02:It does, but it sounds so bad, but I'm like, how do you not become your parents? And like just everything, scared of the world, uh very difficult. Like just like I don't know, just ah man, it was difficult to kind of see some of that just in in those kids.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's weird for us because if you think about even you think about like our friend group and stuff, we don't really have like a like a true, like a broken home rising from the ashes type person that I really I don't I don't think so.
SPEAKER_02:Noah like no, and we're all you know, like like I think for the most part we were all born into like decent families who cared us for us and loved us and gave us opportunities and put us in sports and uh emphasize the importance of like the right things. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I mean, like no matter how far down the road you are, you're always the same distance from the ditch, though. So we we could still mess it up for ourselves, but it would just be a lot harder for us to do that. You know what I mean? Like we can still make bad decisions, but there's always safeguards for us.
SPEAKER_02:Uh safeguards, and this this is the part that's messed up is like in the end, our brains developed in a way that allows us to potentially make the right decisions more often than somebody who grew up in a different way, which is like really messed up when you start thinking about that. Like it's almost like a biological thing that you can't defeat. Well, totally.
SPEAKER_08:I I was listening to um a podcast yesterday, and one of the things they said was you should not like fault your former self for making bad decisions because at the time, based on the state you were in and all the information you had, you that was the decision you made. And if you were put back in that exact same state again today, you would make the exact same decision. I don't know if I agree with that. How do you not agree with that?
SPEAKER_02:Because I can think I mean, I'm trying to think of an example. I can think back to decisions that were made that were just pure stupid. Yeah, with the benefit of hindsight. Sure, but even like surely after making the decision, you're like, what did I just do?
SPEAKER_08:Totally outcome. Maybe you had more like you know what I mean? If at the time, and I'm not saying you made great decisions, and none of us did, but it's it's interesting to look back at what like some of the decisions you've made, and because it's really also really easy to be hard on yourself for some of those. Sure.
SPEAKER_02:And again, what's the point? Like why?
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, and then the theme of this podcast was talking about some regret and some of that, right? Like, and why there's probably like some like lack of merit in having regret about some of your previous actions.
SPEAKER_02:Do you think you do you regret anything?
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, yeah. Okay. Like, or do you want to say? Yeah, no, it's like generically, I regret times when I have been shitty to people. And and let me be clear, regret is I I mean like I am not proud of those actions. Regret, do I have like deep-seated regrets? No, not really. I regret times I've been shitty to people. I regret missing opportunities to spend time with family members that are no longer alive.
SPEAKER_02:Uh yeah, that's interesting. Because I was gonna like part of me wants to be like, hey, like having regrets is is useless. Cause it because it really is, but in the in not in the sense of like like you just said. So like because having that regret of missing time with people that are no longer available to have time with, uh, you hopefully see the the value of time and then do change something in your current state so that you're not gonna do that with somebody else. So I guess in that case, it's like a learning opportunity. But if you take it that way.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, ideally, yeah. Um it's tough because kids like you when you talk about these kids, I mean I could imagine how hard it must be growing up in a house where your dad's drunk every night and you, you know, he yells at you or whatever, he yells at your mom, and you're forced trying to like you're walking around on eggshells because you know if you do one wrong thing, he's gonna fly off the handle, and like you're just you are literally set up for failure from day one.
SPEAKER_02:I I hear I know, and I'm with you. But here's the thing, I I can I agree with you. You can imagine it, but can we? That's the thing that probably not. Do you know what I mean? Like, I mean, intellectually, you can say, I can imagine how hard that would be, but I think that I don't think that we can. I mean, like, I don't think that we can never get we'll never be able to put it. Yeah, how you can't understand the like the reaction, the like the hormone, like the hormones, the all of the things in your body that are responding to that, just like I don't think you can understand like the stress, like the stress of it, and all these things that we you can kind of understand stress, but then you're like, okay, but how does that affect you growing up with that from a child to 18?
SPEAKER_08:Um Yeah, like you there's like the biological effects, the social effects.
SPEAKER_02:Completely. And then now you lash out at other people because like it's just it's just it's so crazy. And anyway, anyway, like I just I don't know why, but like after leaving that for practice, I'm just really thinking about like But that's why I find like I haven't seen a psychologist or therapist in quite a while.
SPEAKER_08:It's helpful, it's helpful to talk about your shit. Yeah. Um, but sometimes like it's like I I have found interesting exercises lately thinking about like why am I the way that I am? Not that I'm like super fucked up, but we all have interesting quirks about our personality. For sure. Yeah. Things like that. And I was thinking, like, one of the things that's really been I have found interesting is like because we talked about this two podcasts ago about our 2025 goals. Yep. And I was like, why do I care so much what other people think about me? Right? I've I've like really been exploring that. Yeah. Um, and I was thinking, K, like, so when I was a kid growing up, so my mom died when I was really young, right? And like, don't really remember it. Yeah, it had an effect. But the tangible effect that I can put my finger on is like, I remember growing up looking at all these kids around me being like, fuck me, why don't I get to have the same child that they have? Right. Right. And it's almost like uh I don't want to use the word resentment, but you know what I mean? It's like a but as a child, it probably is that a little bit, but the problem is is the resentment is directed towards your parents.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_08:Um, because my my my stepmom who came into my life at a very early age, she is my mother. She raised me. She is a wonderful woman for raising as all the people we know that are in kids' lives, right? For like taking somebody else's biological children and raising them as your own. Yeah. That's a hell of a thing to do, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no kidding.
SPEAKER_08:But as a kid, when you grow up and you like direct that resentment at them, I was like, I was trying to think of this like, why did I have so much resentment and why do I care so much about what other people think of me? And it's like a lot of this is derived from things that happen in your childhood that you just have never talked about with people, right?
SPEAKER_02:And and I think they're difficult to even put a finger on. Like you very much can you can have ideas of maybe it's this, maybe it's this, but it's very hard to understand how your brain developed because of something, an event that happened or a repeated event or something, right?
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, and I think there's power in like I've been trying to do some of this searching, and I don't mean to talk about me because this is not important, but like if you're the guy who grows the kid who grows up in a house with your drunken father, I don't know. Like, are you gonna at some point in your life sit down and be like, this is why I'm fucked up?
SPEAKER_02:I think so. Uh well here's the thing is I think you can have I can go either way, right? Because uh we I mean we probably know people who have come from those situations who who changed and who decided I'm not gonna be that, and they made it somehow, somehow they were able to, as an adult or an older teenager, to make that decision that I am not gonna be that, and they weren't. They decided I'm gonna do everything but that, versus other people who just fall into that cycle.
SPEAKER_07:I would say the majority would be the people who fall into that cycle. I think so. And I I don't know why that is, maybe just they don't have the resiliency, or I don't know what it's like.
SPEAKER_08:It's so easy to fall into that cycle.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, well, it would be. I mean, it's easy to be a shitty parent. Like it honestly is. It's easy to be a terrible parent. I believe that. So maybe that's why, but yeah, the majority probably would be. But the weird thing is if you like, even if you look at stand-up comedians, most stand-up comedians have terrible stories about their childhood. Yeah. I don't know, I don't know why that is.
SPEAKER_08:But so do really successful people.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, that's yeah.
SPEAKER_08:You know what I mean? Like the adversity.
SPEAKER_07:The ones we can remember, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:And like that is a like uh an exception, not the rule. Like most people with uber shitty childhoods probably just end up to have uber shitty lives. Yeah. But the adversity of those who have like enough adversity that can like harness it, yeah, are also uber successful.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's just and like I there's obviously some mechanism happening, or but in the end, it's like I it's just so funny how at a certain age our empathy towards them as a kid changes to do something.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, make a good decision, fucking suck it up completely.
SPEAKER_02:Which is like, I mean, that's I guess here's the problem that's not the wrong message in some way. Because at a certain point, you cannot change the past and the the ways that you were raised or the way your family did or didn't do things for you. At a certain point, all you can do is make better decisions and try to be better moving forward. Again, I'm speaking from a place where I can't understand how hard that is for them to do. So I'm not trying to say this is easy at all. I'm just saying that is the answer.
SPEAKER_07:I think I think that if it's like if you're the drunk dad yelling at your kid, just be better, make like try harder, all that kind of stuff. If that kid doesn't have confidence, there's no way that's gonna happen. And the only way he can get confidence is through his maybe good parenting through his child. It's it's like there's no way out.
SPEAKER_02:Or or they just have a different influence in the life, right? Like so a lot of people who end up, I think having a bad childhood end up in a good place, potentially have had somebody else, maybe not a family member, who they decided is the example for them who either came into their life somehow and helped walk them through some things or helped them a tiny bit, or or even were just hey, that guy was super nice to me. I want to be that guy's a good example. Um, I mean, people are informative um to like especially in teenage years. Like, so when I started lifting weights, it was purely because there was this student teacher that came to our school who was a muscle tech rep. He was so jacked. He won a competition uh for muscle tech and was a sponsored by them. And he he walks into the school, and like I'd never seen in in real life a dude who was just like a but he was a bodybuilder jacked, like huge, tanned, ridiculous, right? And I was like, What is this? And he was just a super nice dude. And he was like, he like uh he took a lot of my buddies and myself, and he's like, Well, like, what are you doing, man? He's like, Oh, you just gotta start lifting some weights. And so he kind of taught us how to lifting weights, and that was kind of when I started going to the gym from like I was playing sports and stuff, but that was when I started actually lifting weights. And so it's interesting how just somebody that you as a human latch on to say, ah man, I want something that they have, or they've got something I don't have, or what is that? I need that.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, it's a it's that thing that happens that gives you like a sense of agency over your outcome or your life. Completely, you know, it's like because I imagine the successful person with a drunken dad, shitty parents, whatever, has this thing, this person, this event where they're like, oh, like I have control over me or what happens to me. Yeah, right. And I don't know. I would love to talk to somebody that grew up in that situation, like truly like a shit childhood that just like what was the thing that gave you that like aha moment where you're like, oh yeah, like this doesn't have to be my life.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's I think everyone's obviously gonna be different, but yeah, there's probably some sort of like themes that are similar. Interesting, anyway. It's just funny how just something simple, like I I can't first of all, I am not a basketball player. Like I know the basics. Really? That's I think your your height, your height would dictate that. Surprising. Uh, but it's actually a lot of fun because it's too it's like, hey, we gotta teach them how to pass, dribble, and shoot. Like it's nothing crazy.
SPEAKER_08:Do you actually have to know things like head? Do you have a history of basketball in your athletic career? Like, I know I know how to play basketball.
SPEAKER_02:Is that what you're asking me?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, like I think you can coach at that level without knowing a lot of those things.
SPEAKER_08:Like, I'm wondering if I can coach basketball, having never played a game of basketball.
SPEAKER_07:Yes. I've never played soccer and I've coached with Tony for three years. Yes, you definitely can't. They know the rules. I just I set the drills up. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Because again, uh, because I think we all know how to train people to some extent or another, right? So, and again, obviously it's different for children versus the people we do at the nursing home, but um not but not that much different. Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Well, maybe you can just tell this kid about Nick Bear. Maybe I will. And that'll or maybe you're that, maybe you're that muscle-bone guy who rolls in and establishes a good relationship with him and maybe motivates him. You know, it's like that that could be it.
SPEAKER_02:No, and that's like it's interesting, because like you don't, I you don't want to say this to like I'm not, yeah. You are we are all at some point in our lives gonna be that person for somebody. That's just how it is. Like, and it's not it's weird to think of that because like I don't picture myself in that way, but that's just the reality of it. If you again, if we if you we're do this podcast where we talk about self-improvement, we talk about doing hard things, and we talk about and for some people that is going to be helpful for them. So, in a way, they're gonna be like, oh well, those guys are doing it, I want to do that. Uh, or at least if they can do it, I can do it. I'm okay if it's that, if that idiot can do it, I can do it too, right? I'm good. If that's if that's what the motivation is, awesome. Uh, but so it's like when you go to those things, like especially with your when your kids get old and you start doing like sports and stuff, like you're gonna be that jack dad showing up to yeah, you are you're gonna be that dude who's showing up to the kids' sports, who you and and especially in the world that keep if it keeps getting more obese, who is abnormal.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's it's noticeable. Now, even for me, rolling in a kid's sports, I look around, I'm like, what the actual hell is going on?
SPEAKER_02:Which is which is like funny, right? Because like you think from like again, we all perceive ourselves differently. And you we I mean, I don't you just you're like, I shouldn't be I shouldn't be standing out here, like, but you do because you just you're doing things to do to better yourself uh and you're not just sitting on a couch eating cheesies all the time.
SPEAKER_07:It's more noticeable as we get older too, I think. I think so. So that's when people can fall off because you're the same distance from the ditch, fall off the wagon and stuff.
SPEAKER_02:I said I've said this before, but the the the one time that I can say it was the the weirdest feeling for me was uh going to uh down in Standpoint they have that water park, uh Silverwood. Yeah. Yeah Silverwood water park. And it was weird that like I there was a lot of obese people there. And so like walking around in the water park, and like I wasn't like super in shape, but I I was okay. And it was like I felt like I was I felt like I was standing out like a sore thumb. Yeah, and it was like what and I and us it might sound egotistical if you're listening to this. I'm sorry, I don't mean it that way, but it it legitimately was like in like it's essentially you're at Walmart, but they're all wearing swimsuits. Yeah, it was like one, it was like one out of 20 people.
SPEAKER_07:Well that's what it is, and like my wife's worried about that because we're going to Mexico and she tried on the bathing suit. She's like, oh my gosh, she's like, tell me I'm not gonna be the grossest person at the resort. And I just started laughing, not the right response. Laughing. And I'm like, are you serious? Like you like, we are mod like we're just averagely in shape people. Yeah, you guys would be fine.
SPEAKER_08:Like it's gonna be fine in the 50s when everybody was that like that. Yeah, like you guys just kind of would have been like, yeah, like we're also normal people. We're now normal people, hey bro, you work out exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that was the weird part, is like you see like one other dude that's kind of like obviously less waiting.
SPEAKER_07:100%.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he's like, Yeah, we know it's like hey man, hey. It's just like because it's like it's so it's so it's like was rare. It's just it's a weird thing.
SPEAKER_08:But that's that Dana White thing. I've been trying to inject a lot more savagery into my life. Uh you have too. I think we all have. You you just are you getting up early? No.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, he's been in the gym. Yeah, I enjoyed that. Because you know, Dana White was like, you know what, like if you just have like a little bit, yeah, just a little bit, you're gonna be so far.
SPEAKER_02:Especially we talk about kids. Like, if you can just like teach your kids to have a little bit of that drive and a little bit of just like how much farther ahead they're gonna have. Or just willing to do some hard things, like willing to wake up a bit earlier to get a little something in, or whatever. Yeah, they're gonna be so far ahead.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, it's it's interesting the things you can do to tip the scale. Yeah. But yeah, and that's why you come back to this kid. Like, if the if you just have that realization, like, oh, like I can just do a little bit. Completely just try it, like, do a little bit, and it's fucking it's gonna make a huge difference.
SPEAKER_02:Completely. And like it's just in yeah, and you just I think when you're in those roles, and I think with coaching like soccer and with when you start doing things when your your kid gets older it's very because like we leave our job and we go to these things and sometimes like uh but like you walk in there and you realize oh I have to be different here. I have to be and it's like not like it's not like you're not being yourself but you just have to you have to be the example it's of like okay like we're gonna be happy we're gonna try really hard we're gonna be because there's uh there's also some shitty kids that like are they're good like they're athletic and they have like good situations but they're just little a holes and you're like those that's the other end of the spectrum. Why are they assholes? Uh I don't know. They go and I don't even know if it's like I think it's just that age they like they want to to win like they want to score and so there's a zero chance I'm passing to that girl because she doesn't she doesn't even want the ball she's scared of the ball I'm not passing to her. I'm gonna pass to I'm gonna throw it as hard as I can all across the gym to my buddy who ran down the end even though there's a dude three feet from me who's wide open like that's the kind of stuff and you're like come on man you gotta pass it to everybody yeah I don't know I I I was probably that kid I think we all were to be to be fair like that's the thing it's like it's not it's not abnormal consistent that's just how it goes. Um speaking of kids what I wrote this down um you came prepared I wrote down three things we haven't got to any of them with notes what are we radical apathy were she doing work before strange I would literally think about this on the way home so we have some avid listeners we do we do two uh I will give a shout out to Taca and Tim I'd like to say shout out to those two for listening consistently even though your parents didn't know you were listening.
SPEAKER_07:Tim I don't know who Tim is okay uh so my question for you two is what are you just talking to kids online here?
SPEAKER_02:Like what's going on where'd you get these questions from oh my god how long have they been listening exactly apparently though apparently all of them is what I've been told and obsessed obsessed about it like love it like just and here's the thing want to come on the podcast which is amazing we're not laughing at you if you're listening it's just it's just amazing.
SPEAKER_07:Okay so so we I was like thinking about this on the way home I'm like I know we just do this for fun we say things I don't even think about what I say I'm not I'm not really censoring myself I don't want I don't want so many questions I don't want to censor myself I want to be be able to be like like be me right so then it's like okay but wait a minute what age should we listen to this podcast and I and I think for the most part I keep it I mean other than occasional swear yeah I think that I think that Taca as I know Taca would be a good age to listen to this podcast I would agree but not the episodes that's the problem there's a couple that he should not listen to it's too late it's too late let me be clear he is a very mature young adult this is an 18 plus rated podcast. Yes is it a hundred percent I remember sex robots and one of the things we talked about sex now we have to well now there's now you gotta put the E on the episode I already did yeah I think it even yeah it's a it's an 18 plus okay I'm I'm not disagreeing with you.
SPEAKER_02:So Taca turn it off no I here's my thing though keep it keep it on well he was told he he was told he can't listen anymore but I'm trying but I'm trying to fight back I'm trying to fight for you and get your privileges back. I would agree there are some content that probably isn't great. However do you not think that especially these days they're getting that kids that age are getting exposure to worse things than this and not the good things that we bring you're 100% I have a statement and then I have a question.
SPEAKER_08:Ready No I have a question and then a statement so my question would be like as an adult when we talk about adult rated things adult content it's adult content because you're able to parse the context of it okay I think right um I think adult content like if I talk about chopping off because I think it was last podcast I talked about like chopping off your fingers because you masturbate too much is that the last podcast or the one before you can still masturbate with no fingers.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah but it's like rolling like a second okay no this tack's not listening anymore so we're good. Sorry right but the thing is is we can talk about that okay but are you delusional to think that a kid that age doesn't know what that is but then why do we have these you've talked about this in a few podcast episodes ago why do we have these guidelines for like this is the uh level of content you can ingest at this age but but the reason I like that and I like the ease is that we're because we're seeing it now and you saw it with your boy probably too getting exposed to a lot more things watching movies that have some sexual innuendos whatever all that kind of stuff I like to know that that's there so I can watch it with them and just provide some context when it pops up like an example I got a text from my wife here like literally 10 minutes ago because my daughter's watching babysitter clubs with my with uh my wife and the text was uh babysitter's clubs just covered periods for us so we don't have to talk to her about that and I'm like oh that's well that's good to know that my my wife was there just to explain things the same way if you want to talk about masturbating without fingers some maybe Taca's dad could be there be like hey buddy this is what they meant this is the joke this is the humor behind it and they can provide context but I again I think I don't I don't yeah really yeah I didn't think you'd be this so hard on that side really I'm not hard on that side of it I just don't this I that's why I have a question is is that it's like there is a reason that we gate content for kids.
SPEAKER_08:Right. Yeah and obviously there's like really obvious ones like kids should not be watching pornography because it's fucking terrible for your brain regardless of your age. Completely but as a kid it's gonna skew you in so many ways it shouldn't.
SPEAKER_02:Right. So I would here's my thing about that first of all we're saying kids um sure young adults yeah people whose brains are still developing. Agreed. I'm just being clear we're not talking about like 10 year olds here. Um and there's a big difference between like a 10 year old and like a 15 year old in terms of like the things that they've been exposed to already in their friend peer group and the things they're talking about and all that stuff. I think especially in the world that we live in it's surprising like I wasn't exposed to most of the things by 17 that a lot of these kids are being exposed to at like 13. It's not I'm not saying it's good but I'm just saying in in general I think that what sure there's some humorous stupid things that we say for sure and some topics that are probably a little much however I would say on average it's probably better than some other stuff that he they're already listening to or and because I do think that there's some valuable stuff that potentially you can get a life lesson or some learn something or find motivation or whatever whatever. So the good outweighs the bad I honestly honestly I think so because I think the bad are and I'm using bad in quotes I think it's mostly just like funny things but again maybe they don't understand the funny part of it but um I think that they're already getting all that bad lots of different places.
SPEAKER_07:I I would rate this a PG 13 podcast. What wouldn't it be PG 13 what's what's the next category PG 13 or I don't have a farmer reference for that meaning that if you're 13 and under there needs to be a parent with you to explain the context.
SPEAKER_02:That's the whole point of the parental guidance rating system right and PG 13 if you watch movies these days out of PG 13 I'm not letting my I I'm even squeamish letting my 14 year old watch it and I'm not let well and my 11 year old honestly has watched a lot of PG 13 movies because most of those Marvel movies are PG13 right and so and so the only difference is that there's probably a bit more swearing here and there in this podcast than than they might be exposed to in a movie but that's not always true. Even some movies that are PG 13 I'm like what? I'm like we're dropping like F-bombs I'm like what are we doing but are we concerned about like swearing doesn't really register for me.
SPEAKER_08:It's more so topics that like you need to be an adult to understand the consequences but like you need to be an adult to understand consequences of some of these things.
SPEAKER_02:I completely agree but that's I I 100% agree that there's there are age limits for a reason. My question I guess is if you had to put a number on like what age I got my number what age would you say is like too young to listen to this podcast where what are you saying?
SPEAKER_08:Be careful you might cut off a stream of listeners on one hand like I want to be like responsible but on the other hand like we need those listeners that's what I said. Dude I think like it's gonna be right around 14.
SPEAKER_07:Oh like like I was gonna say 15.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah like because here's the thing I don't know what you guys were doing but I was making some some decisions at like 16 that could have had like lifelong consequences yeah right here so it is what it is like and I agree with you.
SPEAKER_02:I I agree with you I I'm in that same range as well I think like my there's been a couple times when I've been driving I pick up my kid from like my daughter who's 14 from basketball and I've I've been listening to one of her old episodes just to kind of like see how it went and she sits down and she she loves she wants to hear oh what are you talking about right and I've let her listen to not the full episodes I don't know if maybe she does or doesn't I don't know if she sneaks them but um but if she did I honestly don't think I would care. Like there's again I'm not hiding I'm not trying to hide anything my opinions or thoughts I think she's fairly she might not know all of them but like I it wouldn't surprise her I don't think to hear me talk about anything we've talked about on here.
SPEAKER_08:Well maybe well man this is this is a couple things.
SPEAKER_02:So so is what is your age then yeah I'm gonna go like yeah 14 15. Yeah okay but then are there portions of things we have talked about that would fall drastically outside maybe maybe and that's the thing is I don't know what we've talked about yesterday so like that I think that's that is my I completely agree with you. And we put this shit on the fucking internet. And that's like I and that that's where I'm with you like it's like on principle I feel like the vast majority of our stuff is completely listenable for that kind of age group but but then there's like maybe there is a couple episodes out there that's like ooh but and the thing is is we all have the like we have the benefit and even our guests have the benefit of like being part of these conversations for 58 episodes 59 episodes like so like they also know who we are.
SPEAKER_08:Right. If you tune into this and this doesn't even have to do with kids anymore youth whatever they are youth let's call them youth youth if you tune into this at the wrong time you're gonna think that you are somebody who you are not that but that's that's yeah that's out of context yeah that's yeah that's but like context well as our title intro would say like context is for kings.
SPEAKER_02:It's important it is it is important but that's where I think if you're gonna let them listen you got to listen to listen to all of them agreed. Yeah you gotta yeah you gotta really that's actually a really good point.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah and and ask questions about why like why are we saying what we're saying.
SPEAKER_07:Because the music you were listening to at 14 and 15 like Marilyn Manson was around like the stuff that's way worse maestro than this.
SPEAKER_02:Uh so if you're listening still you two youths thank you I guess uh and if you have questions of context of things that you don't understand ask your parents or reach out to average.superior at gmail.com well here here's the issue though if and it would it would I would like nothing more to have them on here but then if they are on here it is their friends would listen and then all of a sudden you all of a sudden we have a thousand listeners weird oh yeah that's our the juice isn't worth the squeeze so here's here's the interesting math so our three ages combined equals how many of them a lot you know like it would take like ten of them to equal three of us.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah but one yeah one of them listening is still one listen I I would like to ask them like what have you learned like legitimately taken away from that's a great question if anything yeah that's a good question because then maybe we're like okay we're it's okay you can listen now yeah like and and like not like not like hey can you remember like the three things we've said that are like so offside.
SPEAKER_02:And they which they probably in and here's my thought and again I don't have anything to back this up but my thought is that yes we've said some crazy things and usually they're always for comedy reasons most or just stupidity but I would think that that will register less in their minds because of their being exposed to all that craziness with their friends and other things they're being bombarded with in their life then I think we are very consistent with our with our messaging about you know other things that are like positive and that's like we talk about too much over and over again. So I feel I feel like that is what would be remember uh they would remember before they'd remember the stupid things we said.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah I don't even know what kids are exposed to these days but I remember when we were that age it was still pretty gnarly.
SPEAKER_02:Completely yeah yeah it's worse this right like you yeah I don't know so anyway I don't know I don't know if I have an answer. I mean obviously it's not it's a parental decision a completely a completely um what's the word pick out a couple like clean episodes send them to your parents hey can I listen to this podcast and then they they say yes then you're good to go what makes them clean like a lack of swearing uh content I'd say how do you pick out content I don't I don't know I don't know anyway point being parents parental decision listen to your parents everyone why why are kids not allowed to swear it's just a way a bad word I don't know what's the word it's I I would my guess is swear all the time really it's so bad. Like in your house?
SPEAKER_07:Uh yeah they're pretty good outside the house but uh she doesn't listen but my wife's got a dirty mouth especially she's she is the F-bomb queen in the house and it's quite funny.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Uh mine do not like at all well I'm sure they do at school I've they've never heard of me.
SPEAKER_08:Oh I bet my kids swear at school it's actually something I would like to cut out of my vocabulary. Like swearing? Yeah I just don't have the like the mental bandwidth to not somehow and maybe that's a poor excuse.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I think that why they why we don't I just think it's a res like I think it's the idea that it's uh respect more respectful not to or it depending on what we're talking about.
SPEAKER_08:But it is right like more respectful to not use swear words in your communication.
SPEAKER_07:Sure. I I find that like I don't swear a lot as I I really don't swear at my kids a lot and I've done it a couple times where I have thrown out an F bomb and uh there was one time recently that I actually did say to my oldest kid but I did say shut the F up to him because you kept pushing button and pushing and pushing and pushing and I kept on giving freedom but but because I don't swear when I said that it was impactful it was yes 100% very impactful.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah it's funny you say that because I have acute memories from my childhood of that.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah and I remember I remember my dad once he dropped a hard hard F bomb at me when I was like four I remember it. Yeah because he didn't do it a lot.
SPEAKER_08:But would you ever be like fuck yeah bud like nice work.
SPEAKER_02:What oh yeah no I I I've let that slip a couple times actually but yeah like just I don't swear in front of my kids well I'm not saying I don't I I I rarely rarely rarely have I swear in front of other people's kids I'm not bad.
SPEAKER_07:Here's the thing but with swears though like I feel like there's a level of swears like F the F bomb is it's a lot less serious than it was the mildest swear maybe I don't know how not the mild it's a milder like well you're not dropping C bombs. Yeah well that yeah my my kid came home from school and said some kid his age dropped that was he British no you say with an accent it's fine apparently yeah yeah I don't know any anyway but I've also tried with various groups of coworkers or maybe even you fuckers to have like to have a swear jar and it's always shot down.
SPEAKER_02:It's always like no stupid stupid idea shut up I don't know you fucking idiots anyways what else this is why 14 year olds shouldn't listen to the podcast what else do you got? I gotta go soon is what I got.
SPEAKER_07:So if we've established like 14 to 15 being the age at which people can listen to this podcast.
SPEAKER_02:Until you're 18.
SPEAKER_07:And just don't tell your don't tell your friends about this we don't want we don't want a bunch of young people listen to this don't tell your friends. But but do but do but like but don't but don't but secret tell but be real we're not we're not cool.
SPEAKER_02:A bunch of 16 year old kids do not want to listen to this 40 year old sitting in a room I don't I don't think I think you misin I think you don't understand how you're perceived. How how cool we are are we are you saying we're cool? I think we're cool I don't think we are I I think that the messaging that we present most of the time is something that people want. I think 14 year olds are really into cold plunging I think that there are some 14 year olds who already see the world they're living in and the how they how they need to be like the savage thing like how they need to be better than the things that they're seeing whether it's like people in the class who are just not all they do is sit and play video games or whatever the thing is right they see that they need to push themselves they want to push themselves they want to be better like I think that I think that can happen from a young age shouldn't like shouldn't it might not have happened to like us at that age but you're gonna have those outliers who are already thinking about how do how do I get better? What can I do to be better? How do we lean into this? I don't I don't know we'll discuss that later I I agree like I this this is my thing I think we maybe need to lean into this a little bit but because I think I like I said I think in general the messaging that we provide is is very beneficial and I think honestly at that age is it's actually super like I'm maybe not 14 but like 15 16 like that's a good age like that you can get in their heads about hey hard things are good for you don't don't run away from the suffering like the suffering is what's gonna make you better oh totally like our friend Dave British Dave yeah he he talks like man if we'd have had these podcasts even like like you or I us whatever if we'd had these podcasts when we were 18 life trajectory probably would have been different. It could have been could have been completely I never thought of that before if you applied if you applied some of that information to your life or even even a portion of it if you like like we like we've said a million times like that consistency or that slightly slight trajectory to the positivity versus like the bad things for you like that minor picking a one thing and maybe I'm changing my habit of getting up in the morning and doing some push-ups or that's what I'm gonna do and maybe that's the only thing you do but then you develop this pattern of you know getting up early and doing something hard and it it's just it can like it can snowball right there there's a there's a I is there a real chance of somebody 30 or 25 30 years from now being successful and be like you know what changed for me was I listen to this that'd be amazing.
SPEAKER_08:Could you imagine?
SPEAKER_02:That'd be come find our old old asses in wheelchairs. Um okay I can leave these two other things for another day. The one thing I was uh curious about is if you watched and if you haven't you should look into it like the have you did you see any of that Pete Hags stuff today?
SPEAKER_08:I just saw that they called him a Zionist.
SPEAKER_02:It's interesting uh anyway I can have time to talk about that and the just going back to this um this kid that I was talking about in basketball you know really got me thinking about it Got me thinking about the idea of boarding schools. So, okay. Like, I I don't know anywhere in Canada that does that anymore. I mean, maybe really rich people have like private schools where they send kids to live.
SPEAKER_08:There was one in BC I got threatened to get sent to, and I wish I would have I wish they would have pulled the trigger.
SPEAKER_02:But like then I'm then I started thinking, okay, like I don't know how I thought of this, but I was like in with some people that might be the best, especially from the kids, and this sounds horrible, and I but it is what it is. Um totally see, yeah. So for some kids, that might have been more beneficial than anything else that could have happened in their lives as a kid. For both them and their parents. Look at Harry Potter. Yeah, he's a wizard. He would have, if he would have grown up with the Dursleys, he would have been extremely just a muggle. A muggle, and like not know his power and not learn discipline, and just been treated poorly treated the rest of his life. But that guy, he went to Hogwarts and he got to live there. And because of that, he had good examples, he had structure, he had teachings. I know I'm talking about Harry Potter right now, but the idea behind it applies. I think that at the same time, it's crazy to think, like I can't imagine saying in s in in September, alright, see at Christmas to my kids, sending them away to boarding school till Christmas for the holidays, and then bringing them back. Like that's crazy to me.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, but that's because you have a positive relationship with your children. What if you're super rich, you don't have a connection with your kids, maybe you weren't a great parent, kids are off the rails, and you're like, This is what we're doing. It's probably gonna be good for at least your kids, if not both of you.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I yes, I think I think it'd be damaging. Okay, I think if you send your kid away and they're very aware that you sent they were sent away because you didn't want to deal with them, that's going to affect them for the rest of their life.
SPEAKER_08:Oh, and they're gonna know that if they're shitty kids.
SPEAKER_02:But the ver the on the other side of it, if it was just the thing. Yeah, school was boarding school. That was school. So now you have families of whatever all walks of life, but you have specifically those kids who maybe are growing up in a place where they don't get good enough food, they don't get attention, they don't get instruction, they don't get all these things, they end up in a place where that's taken care of. And uh this is my utopic utopia idea. I'm no, I'm not saying that these are great places or any by any such imagination. I don't know, but I'm just saying the potential for like maybe some of those kids who had those are gonna have those lifelong struggles might be able to get out of the cycle.
SPEAKER_08:Maybe, but the problem with this idea is that those even if you're not well off or whatever, those who have family connections that are strong, like you take that away, right? It's all in gone. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:No, I I completely agree. Like that's why like I was thinking that completely, because that that was my second thought was okay, well, maybe some of those people would be really good for them. But I'm like, yeah, but I don't think it'd be good for I don't want to send my kids. Like, I don't I don't think that'd be necessarily better for them because now what are they being taught? What if it's the example? Who's the example that's being like what are they who are they latching onto as the example, and is that a good thing or bad thing?
SPEAKER_08:You know what I would love to see along those lines? Um but that definitely exists, I don't know about here, but you know those it would be like the program where like for a weekend or a week or let's say like two weeks if that's gonna be crazy, you and your son, right? You go to this camp.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Well they have some of that thing, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_08:But like, can you do some hard shit?
SPEAKER_02:There actually is I wish I could think of the name of it. It's literally that. It's I can't remember what it's called. There's well, there's the Squire program. That's I know that one. I don't remember which one I was looking at, but yeah, it was something very similar to that. But this is also like how this comes back to like the judo thing. I think not only is it super nice that I can do this while I don't just sit there and just watch, I can partake. But on the other part of it is like it's kind of cool that I can I mean, I'm not trained directly with him because obviously he's too much.
SPEAKER_08:So your kid hip tosses you.
SPEAKER_02:Well, when he gets older, that's that's kind of the thing, right? It'd be kind of neat to be like, now you're this like he's grown up and he's like, then you can actually train with them. But in the meantime, it's like it's kind of cool to be on the same mats and learning some of the same stuff. It's cool for both of you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:There's a lot of boarding schools in Ontario and Quebec. Really? Like just you look up boarding schools, they're all Ontario, Quebec, Ontario. There's like one in Saskatchewan.
SPEAKER_08:None in Alberta.
SPEAKER_07:Uh not in this big list of the top fifty.
SPEAKER_08:That's interesting. Yeah. I would have been down.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Uh well, once again, thank you for listening. Even if you're 14. Uh talk to your parents, make sure that they're okay with you listening to our podcast. In the end, we're just here to provide valuable information. And make you better. And sometimes we say outrageous, crazy things, and we're not sorry.
SPEAKER_01:JB's got the mic, and he ignites the fire. Curtis drops the beat, taking us all higher. Jason with the tail spinning. Where's the gold? Average superior never fit in the mo.
SPEAKER_02:Alright, bye. If you've made it this far, welcome to the new outro. If you'd like, you can check out our Instagram at Average Superior. In our bio, there is a link to our page where you can show support by donating a small amount of money to help cover our cause. Now stay tuned for our newest song about the podcast.
SPEAKER_05:Talking about the thing they do. Box up and the call for me and store and proof, my bride.