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The Average Superior Podcast
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The Average Superior Podcast
# 62: The Grape Dilemma & Perception vs Perspective
If you were given the opportunity to eat grapes with each one you eat earning you $50,000…BUT with a 1 in 1000 chance of eating a deadly poisonous grape... how many would you eat??
Also, how do we get around our perceptions and put some perspective into situations?
We discuss this and much more.
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SPEAKER_00:Everyone feels the same way you do. Alright? What do you do right now?
SPEAKER_02:I have about 70 apps on my phone. I probably have how many apps?
SPEAKER_03:What are you trying to buy on what are you trying to buy on Facebook?
SPEAKER_02:I bought a like a table like this with chairs for our basement, like a card table.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:You probably could have had this table if you would have helped us find a couch to start.
SPEAKER_02:No, I wanted one that has a leaf. So when we do like board game nights, the family can we just put the leaf in and it can be a bigger table and then it's smaller to play cards at.
SPEAKER_01:Got that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I want those fucking chairs.
SPEAKER_01:The throne?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they're like four grand or something.
SPEAKER_01:Do you think our supporters are?
SPEAKER_02:That would be so funny.
SPEAKER_01:Just sitting in a throne. Except there's only two of them. What would the third person I'll sit right beside you?
SPEAKER_02:I'll just be in the middle on a stool. I don't care. We need to get four.
SPEAKER_03:We need to get four of them.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you would. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Did you look at that link I sent you? I didn't. I saw the pictures, but I was at the basket.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like they're thrones.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Like I don't know if were they legitimately four thousand dollars? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh wow. It was like$3,500.
SPEAKER_01:$3,500 for throne chairs.
SPEAKER_02:Like the I and they metal?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know.
unknown:I think they're metal.
SPEAKER_01:Used once for a weeding. Oh what? Well, you couldn't even spell wedding properly.
SPEAKER_02:Somebody bought those for a wedding. That's look how that is the best wedding ever.
SPEAKER_03:People are not good with money, eh?
SPEAKER_02:Or maybe they're really good with money.
SPEAKER_03:Like if they say if they legitimately spend$4,000 on chairs they use for a wedding. Like you're kind of an idiot.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but here's then what I do is I click on the person's profile.
SPEAKER_03:If you're loaded, you're not trying to resell them on Facebook Marketplace. Good point.
SPEAKER_02:But then if you click on his profile and look at what else he's sold and what he's currently selling, I love Facebook Marketplace. I just I'm judging this person and his lifestyle immediately. I don't know. He's northeast of Calgary. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I sometimes I shop outside of my range.
SPEAKER_02:So also price range.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, there you go. Big time. Is this guy like somebody who like buys and sells on Facebook Marketplace as a job? They're fucking plastic. That's not metal. If it's four thousand dollars, it better be metal. Better be gold. Yeah, they better be a little bit more. Yeah, it went through the roof. Is it$4,000 or something?
SPEAKER_01:Is that in anticipation of tariffs tomorrow?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. The tariffs happening tomorrow? Yeah, February 1st? Why not, right? What is that?
SPEAKER_02:I d I don't I've watched way too much and tried to figure it out, and I don't know what to do.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. Just offer me citizenship so I can become so what if you could he would offer citizenship.
SPEAKER_03:You could as a Canadian, you could get US citizenship really easily. Yeah, but there no there'd be no downside to that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, what's the downside? I don't know. Unless you had to like uh revoke rescinding the case. Yeah, you can't pick up your Canadian passport. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, that'd be tough.
SPEAKER_03:You don't think you could? I don't think you could I'm saying you. Like I don't think you could. I don't think I could. Like, okay, here's my Canadian passport, I'll take the American.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't know if I could either. But here's the thing do you feel proud to be a Canadian still?
SPEAKER_03:I think it's no, I no, but here's the thing. I I think it's kind of weird. Okay. I am thankful that I live in Canada versus other parts of the world. I think it's weird to be have pride in something you didn't do or choose. That's why I don't like the word pride. I think it's weird. It's like I just don't like I again, I think I I picture that to be like something that I'm proud of I don't know, uh this this project I did because I did it. Like I I with my hands I physically did it, I had some control over the outcome of it. But I had no control over my the birth lottery that I happened to be born in Canada, right? I can be thankful and happy that I'm in this country and like the country. I just think the word pride is weird.
SPEAKER_01:It's not often I so strongly disagree with what you say. Really?
SPEAKER_02:I I immediately got obsessed that you said I don't like the word pride. Who the fuck does it like the word pride? But just for the context, like if you built like you built you built a house or something like that, you're proud of the house.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like yeah, no, no, I'm just saying in the context of being proud of something that you have no control over. Like patriotism. Completely. Like I think you can be patriotic, but the word pri I just I the word pride bothers me a little bit about like when we use when it's used in context like that.
SPEAKER_02:But if you are proud to be a Canadian, I'm I'm proud to be a Canadian because I'm proud of how good other Canadians are, and that makes me prideful.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and that would be more where I get mine from, right?
SPEAKER_02:Like, yeah, that's that's that's what I that's what national pride to that is is that to me.
SPEAKER_01:I'm proud of the things Canada has stood for or the values or morals that at one point it meant to be a Canadian. The fact that we come from a country where a whole bunch of dudes younger than us willingly stormed onto beaches full of machine gun fire.
SPEAKER_02:A lot of countries did that. Technically, technically Germany did that too. Sure.
SPEAKER_01:And I'm sure the Germans are proud to be Germans. Uh well I don't know. I think they're like I just I don't know if I'm still proud to be a Canadian.
SPEAKER_03:I st I still think it's weird in that context. I just I just do because again, you had the you there's nothing that you it's like are are are could your kids be proud of you?
SPEAKER_02:Like I'm proud that he's my dad, even though they had no choice about you being their dad.
SPEAKER_03:I I think as long as that's no, I see what you're saying, but I think what I would want them to be like proud of me because of what I've done in my life, my accomplishments.
SPEAKER_02:And we're and we're proud of Canada because it's what what it's done in the past. Okay, that's a that's not really that's that was a good thing.
SPEAKER_03:That was very that was a really good idea.
SPEAKER_02:But the messed up thing is I do see his point.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. No, that was a really good way to explain it in that way, but I still think yeah, no, that's that's a really good way to explain it.
SPEAKER_02:Like I But you but how are you proud of something you have no control?
SPEAKER_03:That that's my over that's my hang-up on it. Like I again, I would say that I'm like, I like I love that uh we live here, um I like the the country, I think the country does good things, whatever, all of those things. It's just that when you have no control over anything that's happened, it's like on on the other flip side of it, it's like uh this whole thing of blaming a specific race for something that happened in the 1800s or something. Like so let's say like slavery, um blaming like white all white people for slavery, like blaming them now for something that they literally had no control over then, and like this idea of reparations now for something that happened then is like again crazy to me because it's like I I didn't do that, I don't even I don't have those views. Why would I need to pay for that?
SPEAKER_01:You would need to pay for that because you're ashamed, the the inverse proud. I know the inverse.
SPEAKER_03:But and that but that proves my point as well, because why I could I can't be ashamed of something I didn't have any uh control over or input into. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think I know what you mean because ashamed implies you have personal feeling, a personal like a nexus to how you are as a person to it, like shame is a personal feeling. I'm disappointed.
SPEAKER_03:Sure, but I would say it's the same thing with pride in in my mind. Like again, I feel like there's something like should should be some emotional attachment to something that I physically have done or I've done something to cause that pride.
SPEAKER_01:But do you not have relatives or know people that I'm just using World War II as an example, like that fought in the war, and you're proud that they are persons of such character or substance that they're willing to go off and potentially die to fight for something that's important?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like so. I guess the long answer is a short answer would be yeah, but again, I just don't know if I don't know why I'm hung up on the word.
SPEAKER_02:I just I think there's two kinds. I just like yeah, I'm proud of like being a kid So I wonder if you look at it the other way, like say they go back to World War II, are the German people, let's say, ashamed of being German because of what they've done in the past? No, they're probably proud to be German, but they're ashamed of what happened.
SPEAKER_03:Again, I wouldn't say I don't think they'd be ashamed. I just would say they would condemn it, say like, we don't agree with that. That had nothing to do with the world.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's just terms, I think it's just words.
SPEAKER_03:100% is just words, and that's the weird part about it, right? It's just words, but again, it's words that people really like grab onto, like, especially in the context of pride these days with like the LGBTQ community. Is that why you're hung up on the words? Not at all. It it really isn't, but again, it's like if you are um if you're gay and you like guys, again, why is that something like again you saw if if it's something that just it is who you are, you didn't have a chance to be able to do that. Sure, but no, but I I would say I don't no, I what I'm saying is I don't think it's weird to me that you would be in the terms of in terms of the fact that I think if that's just who you are, like you didn't choose to be that way, like it's just kind of it is what it is. Like I thought I'm not proud or ashamed, I just am. I just think that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_02:So you're proud that you can live up and and and overcome that. So there'd be points at points of pride, we could say. Sure. But then again, if you didn't choose it, then what like yeah, that's weird. The more I think about it, I yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And maybe I'm just in my head if that I have no idea. Like, I'm not like gonna die on that hill or anything. It just I just find it interesting. It's more of a valley. I just find it interesting because just like you said, just like I would not have ashamed. Are you proud to be a ginger?
SPEAKER_01:Um, well, there's been a lot of adversity that's come with it. Oh, shut up. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Are you ashamed to be sometimes? Am I allowed to be? Can you imagine being a German in World War II and just being like, my country sucks? Like not like not one of the like the ones who are dressing up, the ones who are just like living in their houses, not wanting any part of it.
SPEAKER_01:I felt like that today a little bit.
SPEAKER_02:That makes no sense. Let's compare your life to what's it like to live in Nazi Germany. How is this? Let me explain.
SPEAKER_01:I spent some time today with a fellow who was placed in a Japanese uh intern camp? Is that what it's called? POW camp? Internment. Internment. Yeah, Japanese internment. Uh I spent some time with him today and I was disappointed in the fact that not so long ago like people that represent my country would do that. So I imagine that's amplified times a billion for the Germans.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, and that's I I I like the the word dis definitely disappointed. And then you but then you start thinking about how stupid stupid we were. I I don't know what the word is, how ignorant forty six, yeah. Ignorant we were, and it and it doesn't seem like yeah, it was a while ago, but not that long ago, but it wasn't that long ago. That's almost within our parents' age range. It's like slightly outside of that.
SPEAKER_01:Well, the fact that I can sit down and talk with somebody that was placed in one of those campuses. It was not that it was Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Um disappointed. With what I mean, what are we gonna look back in 80 80 some years and say like, yeah, we're really we're doing something bad. Disappointed that they were doing that.
SPEAKER_02:Well, no, we're not doing something that drastic, though. I can't think of it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe we are.
SPEAKER_02:Are we? Maybe we would did they know back then that they're doing something?
SPEAKER_03:You don't know what you don't know, right? And that and that's the problem, right? So it's very this is the problem with the idea of removing statues of people who are influential people who did important things back then, yeah, but then we start like using them with the lens of our our ethics today, and we're like, okay, yeah, but they also maybe they passed a bill that was bad in terms of it did something bad for the indigenous people, or and like sure, that's not good. I'm not saying I'm not saying that's a good thing. However, again, using the lens of the society that they lived in back then, that was normal. And again, I'm not saying it's good, but we've we've learned, we've evolved, we've come to better understanding of that people are people no matter what you know, race or color or anything they are. But but we want I don't know why we want to do that. I don't know why we want to go back and say, oh, those guys were all evil. It's like, well, that's literally the people that your ancestors were those people, they all thought the same stuff.
SPEAKER_01:They're evil by today's day. That'd be like going in 80 years in the future, finding out that salad, like lettuce screams and screams, and then like you there's a statue of you because you were an avid lettuce eater. Yeah. And they're like that fucking piece of shit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, rip it down. I don't know. It's it's really interesting to think about, I guess. But yeah, I don't know why I'm hung up on that word. It's just I just find it's I think I attach more of like a personal feeling to the word, and when it's detached from a personal accomplishment or a person personal thing, it just to me is like eh. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if I'm like I said it already in the podcast, I actually don't know if I'm like not proud to be a Canadian or am or how I feel.
SPEAKER_03:I I'm happy I'm here.
SPEAKER_01:Well of course. What you yeah, because there's worse places to be. A lot worse. But I'm also not happy. Well, I am happy. I don't know. I'm I'm annoyed that we can't get it right.
SPEAKER_02:No, we we we're doing better than most. I would say I would say most, not some. I think we're doing it better.
SPEAKER_03:I think we're on a we're on a downward trajectory. I think like the um like the the book Strange Death of Europe and how the immigration and stuff like and all the issues that they're having over there is kind of a telltale sign to something that we're potentially looking at and facing um if things don't change. And I but again, I wouldn't want to I mean, other than the potentially the states right now, which they have a ton of problems still, even though there's something it seems like the momentum might be going the other way. Um they have a ridiculous amount of problems down there that we don't have up here as far as crime and gun violence and things that we don't see as much that I also wouldn't want. So totally like there's parts of like there's parts down there that you'd love be amazing to live in, like Montana or like parts of Texas, something like that. But again, there's a whole bunch of problems they have, and it's it's the grass is not always greener.
SPEAKER_02:If you always get in trouble, you can go to Mexico and then move to the small town of Southern Alberta and hide away the rest of your life. Did you guys hear about that? Yeah. The pistol pack and mama?
SPEAKER_01:Pistol pack and mama. There's no way.
SPEAKER_02:So it is such a cool little butcher it if you don't look at the article. There's uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, I got this.
SPEAKER_02:I just thought of all this. What's her name? I gotta look at the name up because she's been on the news. Yeah, Sharon Kinn, K-I-N-N-E, um, was 20 years old. How long when did she kill 49 years? I actually don't know. I gotta find what she said.
SPEAKER_03:See, you're just about nothing's 1962.
SPEAKER_02:She killed her husband in Missouri. Okay. Okay. And then she goes and has an affair with another couple and kills both of them in Missouri.
SPEAKER_01:Like she it was a thruple?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, she she's just she's just a serial killer or something.
SPEAKER_01:Are you making this up or are you looking?
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_04:Could we just get some facts right? Three murders. Can we try to get facts right one time in the middle of the year? Well, those are good. Those are good.
SPEAKER_02:Those are good. One time. She was arrested though, found not guilty for one of the things.
SPEAKER_03:Um is this also in Missouri?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, all in Missouri. So then she flees to Mexico. Okay. And looks like the second murder occurred in Mexico City.
SPEAKER_03:That would be the third, wouldn't it? You've already said she's killed three people, but never the fourth murder.
SPEAKER_01:Oh man, I'm so bad at this stuff.
SPEAKER_02:You know what we should do? You know what, like this other podcast, Radical Apathy? They do a lot of homework and they write stuff down.
SPEAKER_03:So there's this thing called Grok and or Chat GPT. I'm pretty sure it'd give you all the facts. Okay. Or Deep Seek. Uh yeah, that's all I need to discuss tonight.
SPEAKER_01:I've been I've been hitting it. Have you? I haven't downloaded it yet.
SPEAKER_02:If you well, you guys talk about Deep Seek first, because I need to figure out exactly what's going on.
SPEAKER_01:We're gonna let our listeners suffer with us while we move through your one responsibility.
SPEAKER_03:I bet you I'll find it before you if it just I don't even know where I don't even know the story.
SPEAKER_02:So Sharon Keene, who is 20 years old, killed her husband James in March 1960 by shooting her in the back of the head. Two months later, Ken was accused of killing Patricia Jones after Ken and Patricia's husband Walter had an affair. Who she was found not guilty and uh found not guilty, but was what? Was found not guilty to the death of Patricia Jones, but was sentenced to life in prison in connection to the murder of her husband. So the first murder we talked about there.
SPEAKER_01:Can I can I just highlight how much that you frustrate me here?
SPEAKER_02:I'm so tired right now. Here's what we're looking at barely reading.
SPEAKER_01:This is why we have AI. I literally told Grok that's not a good thing.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, leth this this Lethbridge News Now page is.
SPEAKER_01:Some of worse. Summarize Sharon Kinn's story seven bullet points. Oh, geez, you had 1960 murders, conviction overturned, escape to Mexico, prison escape, life under alias, death confirmation, media and cultural impact. She killed some people, she escaped to Mexico, she escaped prison in Mexico during a blackout and vanished, leaving leading to decades of speculation about her whereabouts. Later revealed she lived under the alias Deedra Glabis, stupid last name, in Alberta, Canada, where she married and lived a relatively quiet life until she married? Yeah, what they don't say in the summary is that her husband, whom she married in Alberta, Canada, died at 38. Ooh. You can't tell me that she didn't kill him. 100%. She's got a book. Is it How I Got Away with Murder?
SPEAKER_03:Uh it's uh Sharon Keene's story has been the subject of various media, including books like I'm Just an Ordinary Girl, the Sharon Keene story. Oh, not not really murder. Episodes of Unsolved Mysteries.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, please stand by.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, you know what's a lot better than looking up a CTV story?
SPEAKER_02:No, I'm on the Tabor Police media release now. This is really good. I gotta get with the times. This is terrible.
SPEAKER_01:I we we need you.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, okay. What is grok?
SPEAKER_01:You said well, you have to pay for grok, but deep seek is free. Why don't you go on the app store and download Deep Seek right now? Do it. I gotta remember. China's already in your stuff because you're TikTok, so it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_02:No, it's in this. It's not in this. Yeah, well, now it's gonna be. So what is this Deep Seek? I honestly don't know. Is it just is a cheaper version or something? Like they made it way cheaper than Let me just ask a different AI.
SPEAKER_04:Let me ask Grok about Deep Seek.
SPEAKER_02:Like, I actually don't know what it is. I just heard it's tanking the American market and okay.
SPEAKER_03:So essentially, China releases this new AI model, Deep Seek, uh, which apparently is a lot more robust than a lot of the ones out there, and it costs like a fraction to train the model. So like it was co costing an insane amount of money to train like rock and chat GPT. Uh, and they've shown that Deep Seek has cost like I can't remember how like an insane lot a lot less than it currently does. An insane lot less. I know, sorry, that wasn't fundamentally It's the cell phones cause fundamentally way, way cheaper, uh, better technology, and like NVIDIA. Oh, yeah, NVIDIA stock dropped. Guess who sold their NVIDIA stock like a week before it dropped?
SPEAKER_06:You.
unknown:Me, no.
SPEAKER_03:Oh. No, Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi. No. She sold it for like$300 million of in. I don't know. I'm making the number of. It was like$10 million or$3 million,$300,000 million dollars of NVIDIA stock and then it plummeted the week after. No diamond hairs there.
SPEAKER_01:Have you ever looked at the guy's X account? He just copy trades Nancy Pelosi.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's it's amazing.
SPEAKER_01:And he's he's making bank.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, is he? Oh yeah. Ah, why don't we all just do that? Wow. Because we don't have the money to do that. Or the time. But they have to have some sort of program that can just do her trades.
SPEAKER_01:Sure, but I you have to have money, and I think you have to have money.
SPEAKER_03:I looked it up. Why is Deek Seek Deep Seek causing waves? One, cost efficiency. For instance, DeepSeq was reportedly developed for under$6 million. Performance versus cost. Despite the low cost, the performance has shown huge performance in uh performance gains in the industry. Market impact, obviously, because of all that, it's changed direct to market. Open source model. It's commitment to open source, so people can look at it and see how it's done. Um and on and on.
SPEAKER_02:So it's mostly the money thing and the development.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and then there's obviously this because it's out of China, there's privacy and security concerns.
SPEAKER_01:But well, if you read the terms and conditions of DeepSeq, there's certainly some concerns about the data they you agree to let them collect about your device and its usage and its network access. Have you read the terms and conditions of Deep Seek? I have read a summary of the concerning points of the terms and conditions.
SPEAKER_02:I have never ever read a terms and conditions before hitting a here's the thing though.
SPEAKER_01:Deep Seek is a really like robust, effective large language model. It has a lot of parameters, which are like the data points that it's trained on. It has something like 75 billion, or I can't, I don't entirely I'm making that number up. 500 million trillion. Ah God, I'm so sorry for people listening.
SPEAKER_02:Septillion. Remember how that one? Sep Septillion?
SPEAKER_01:And the thing is, is it's free. So it's it's better than the model that OpenAI is currently charging$200 a month for$200 US O3 Mini, which is supposed to be just quite as good. It's just not trained as on as many parameters. Uh it's a big shakeup. And then there's the rumor that the hedge fund that created Deep Seek shorted NVIDIA before they released it, which because NVIDIA crashed quite a bunch of stock.
SPEAKER_02:Oh man, that's good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's smart. So it's super interesting. I I am I am beyond my eyeballs deep in AI.
SPEAKER_03:I've not. Other than the making a song every day. Once a week, yeah. You're still doing it though. Uh I have done it in the world.
SPEAKER_02:I enjoy when they do like like real life characters. Like there's this uh it has a Simpsons movie trailer, but it's just real life characters. That's like That's what gets you hate. That's that's that's the AI use. That's that's honestly about it.
SPEAKER_01:You are the end user. Yeah, 100%. You are the product. I love it. Can we make a commitment to our listeners to do one minute of research before we do that? Okay, I like that.
SPEAKER_02:We'll each we'll each do one minute of research about a topic.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and like an AI summary. You were what do you mean you refuse to do any because you because you want less people to listen to this podcast than we already have? I refuse to research.
SPEAKER_02:I think if anything, this podcast is not about the listeners, alright? This is about just us having a good time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, damn you. I suppose it is.
SPEAKER_02:No, it's not.
SPEAKER_01:I just want one sponsorship. One deep sea? Dude, fucking sobies. I don't care. I don't care. I want one thing. We'll get something. Yeah. One day. I don't know if we will.
SPEAKER_03:One day.
SPEAKER_02:I had a dumb question for you. You want to switch gears? Um deep season.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not even in a gear, so I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he was making shit up about deep season games.
SPEAKER_02:I watched, I was starting to watch season two of Squid Games, and I just I just love the fact that there is probably something like this that has happened in the world, like an actual Squid Games where some millionaires and they create some game where people's name was Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, essentially that. But like, you know, a little less sad. Well, kind of the same. Um, so then I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole of like the these competitions, and I came across one little article, and it was a social experiment they did with people, but they it was it was like kind of fake. So they're like, you walk into a room, there's a thousand grapes in the room, one of those grapes is poison, but for every grape you eat, you get fifty thousand dollars. Oh, I how many grapes are you know, like you die essentially, right? How many grapes do you eat?
SPEAKER_03:Okay, was this a real thing?
SPEAKER_02:No, there's all these different like hypothetical social experiments that this one person wanted to do over and over. And there's so many good ones, but this one I'm like, huh. I go hard for a while.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my god, I wouldn't eat a single one.
SPEAKER_03:Are you serious? Bro, you could die. Sure, but how what are the odds? Like how many grapes are in the room? One in a thousand.
SPEAKER_01:I think I'm eating like 40 to 50 grapes. You would roll the dice. Fuck yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I I followed.
SPEAKER_02:I fucking knew I had to ask you guys because I knew you would eat grapes.
SPEAKER_03:I wouldn't have a single one. What? I think I would have a couple for sure. Look at that. You can just think about your mortgage. Okay, I need this many grapes. So here we go. Let's see.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you would segment them into piles.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I like that. Okay, this is if I want to buy it. What's what's every grape? Are you doing that? Every grape? Yeah. What's 50,000 times uh oh no, do that.
SPEAKER_01:I'm doing something even more relevant to this. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Are you trying? I honestly was curious because I'm like, I wouldn't need a single grape.
SPEAKER_03:I wouldn't even touch one. That's crazy because your chances are you're not you're you're fine.
SPEAKER_02:But the problem, like, I go bookends method, so the worst thing and the best thing that can happen? The worst thing is I die and my family has no support. The best thing is I get like 50 grand for one grape.
SPEAKER_01:Here. Get this. Fuck yeah, I'm so glad this worked. This is why you need AI. You know what, you know what other ten things you do in a day that have a one in one thousand odds? Oh no shit. What? Finding a floor leaf clover, being audited by the IRS, winning a small lottery prize, fuck, getting struck by lightning, perfectly bowling a game, accidentally dropping your phone and it breaking, witnessing a car accident, discovering a rare coin in change, experiencing a minor earthquake, or losing an important item.
SPEAKER_02:Fuck yeah, I mean like if all of those things happen, my kids still have a death. No, except for the lightning could be a good thing. The lightning could kill you, actually, never mind. So you so I wouldn't touch a grape. I honestly wouldn't.
SPEAKER_03:You have you have just as good a chance of getting struck by lightning. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I'm eating so many grapes. I know, but there's a chance.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you said 50,000 per grapes?
SPEAKER_02:Uh yeah,$50,000 per grape.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean$50,000, two and a half million. Let's go.
SPEAKER_02:You're eating 50 grapes. Yeah. Holy shit.
SPEAKER_01:Because every grape you eat, the odds don't change. It's still one in 1,000. No, that's not how that works.
SPEAKER_03:That's not math. It'd be one in 999. Okay. That's dumber than me trying to look at the tabers killing woman. Wow, you're not going to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_01:And then at the end, you'd be one in 950. Yeah. Still, I'm still eating 50 grapes.
SPEAKER_02:Holy shit, good for you. Really rolling the dice. What's your number? I don't know how many times.
SPEAKER_01:How many times have you been struck by lightning?
SPEAKER_02:Well, how many times have I been in a room with poisonous grapes? None. Well, that's it exactly my. I just don't think it's worth it. I don't think it's worth the risk.
SPEAKER_01:How many times have you experienced a minor earthquake? Fuck.
SPEAKER_02:Could you imagine if you ate the one grape and that I'm just gonna have one grape? And then that was the dead grape? Could happen. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, what is the chance you get in a car collision every day?
SPEAKER_06:Oh.
SPEAKER_03:Because we take those risks every time.
SPEAKER_02:I guess I think plane collision is went up in the last couple days. Yeah, that's a fucking Yeah, we should. I don't like that.
SPEAKER_01:Uh the odds of getting in a car crash. Searching uh based on numerous factors such as driving frequency, location age, sex, vehicle type, road conditions, scale driven. Give us an upper gronk. Okay. Per mile driven, the odds of being in a car accident for every thousand miles driven are one in three hundred and sixty-six.
SPEAKER_02:For every thousand miles, one in three hundred and sixty-six. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:The annual risk of dying in a car crash is about one in a hundred and seven for the average driver. Huh? That is really high. Maybe I'm eating a hundred grapes.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no kidding. That's my point. Is like those are actually like one in a thousand. That you're pretty good.
SPEAKER_01:I think the point I was trying to illustrate when I said the odds reset, though, is it's like it's it's just trying to claw back once you can. Please let me claw.
SPEAKER_02:Please provide us new math, Terence, Howard. Let's hear this.
SPEAKER_01:Every time you drive, one plus one, it's still one, it the odds reset. It's not like I drove yesterday, so I have like it's still one in 107.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, in that context, yeah. I guess you're 100% right there. You were completely wrong before.
SPEAKER_03:But when you remove a grape from the uh pile, if you're eating it, but again, the odds still, I mean, who cares? One in 950 is not that different than that.
SPEAKER_01:I might eat a hundred grapes, to be honest.
SPEAKER_02:What if there's a hundred grapes? What if there's a hundred grapes in there? And it's five hundred thousand per grape. I'm eating a few grapes.
SPEAKER_03:I probably eat two.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, you eat two? At least.
SPEAKER_01:I think I'm eating like four to five. Yeah. Get a mil. How are they so how are these grapes distributed?
SPEAKER_02:Uh random, just piled on the ground.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, what about okay? Let's just keep playing this out. What about one in fifty?
SPEAKER_02:One in grape. No, I would.
SPEAKER_03:How much per grape?
SPEAKER_01:Uh 100,000. One in fifty. I'm eating two.
SPEAKER_02:Fuck. Okay, now we're still there's no actual. I'm gonna call you out. There's no actual way. You wouldn't touch one of those grapes. You wouldn't.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, find me a poison grape. Now one in ten. One in ten, one million per grape.
SPEAKER_04:I might you would not. Maybe not a million. Two million per grape? Sure. Maybe.
SPEAKER_03:Just one grape.
SPEAKER_02:I'm really upset. One in ten. I'm really upset. I'm really upset. You didn't know.
SPEAKER_03:It's like Russian roulette, essentially, at that point. Not quite, but close. It kind of is. I mean, I mean, really, it is. One in ten. That's like one in six for the Russian roulette with bullets, but.
SPEAKER_02:But every time you pull the trigger, the odds reset, right? They do. Hey, CJ?
SPEAKER_04:Well, it depends. If you re- if you re-spin, then yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:They did that in Squid Games 2, season two.
SPEAKER_01:Uh-huh. I know. I watched all the time. Could you find us good? If you used your free time for good instead of evil.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I think my free time just bought us five minutes of good conversation here. But I honestly don't think you would eat a grape.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, one in one thousand heat for sure, right? Because I know I would.
SPEAKER_01:One in ten, maybe not. One in ten, I'm not touching them.
SPEAKER_03:You're not touching them. I don't think so.
SPEAKER_01:Five million a grape.
SPEAKER_02:Five million in grape. Five million a grape, one in ten.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I think I'm I think I'm doing one.
SPEAKER_02:Ten percent chance you're dying. Okay, so let's. Even if the grapes in the thousand grape room were three ten million dollars each, I probably wouldn't eat one. I'm I'm actually serious.
SPEAKER_01:To be honest, I'm just glad you've come with something that we can title this podcast about and I can create another AI art.
SPEAKER_02:I can like it, I can feel myself be mad at you about that.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna make a room of a thousand grapes with grok. This is fucking amazing.
SPEAKER_03:It's like uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so let me ask you this. So if my in my I I know that this may surprise you, but I'm not a statistician. If the odds reset. If when you eat a grape, they replace it with another grape, it's still one in a thousand, but there's always a thousand grapes.
SPEAKER_02:But the grape they replace it with is automatically not gonna be poisoned? No, you don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it's one of those.
SPEAKER_02:And then they like they shuffle it up like a bingo, like a bingo ball thing. You just yeah, it's a it's a big bingo thing, and you just pull a grape every time.
SPEAKER_03:But you know what? If they're not like crisp grapes, I don't know if I'm eating any. Yeah, you hate it. It's gotta be like soft grapes. Like that, and especially if they start like rolling. That's your line? Yeah, if they start like if they start like spinning them around and they're getting like kind of squishy, I'm I'm out.
SPEAKER_01:I need them to be nice and crisp and cold. It's like a soft blueberry, like nobody wants that. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:The grapes are in a cold pool. Like it's they're in your cold plunge that you don't use, they're just nice and cool in there, staying crisp, all all like kind of slimy because I haven't been in there for a while.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just upset you guys eat grapes, I honestly.
SPEAKER_01:The lifetime odds of dying in a car crash are around one in ninety-three.
SPEAKER_03:I think you're crazy not to eat grapes in one in a thousand. I literally think you're insane not to have a couple grapes.
SPEAKER_02:I I see why you would think that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I really do.
SPEAKER_03:One in one in a hundred, one in five. Like when those odds go up that you might die, okay for sure. But one in a thousand, you're you're not gonna die.
SPEAKER_02:I also have a feel if we all ate a grape, our significant others would be like, what the fuck are you doing?
SPEAKER_03:No, they wouldn't. Especially when you're bringing home that money. Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I think I think my significant other would be like, have another one, you pussy. Roll the dice. You only had two? What is wrong with that? Come on, we need more money than that.
SPEAKER_02:You told me you told me the odds reset, CJ. Can't even pay off anything like that.
SPEAKER_01:The odds of dying in a commercial plane crash are one in 11 million.
SPEAKER_02:Gee, I like that. Is that current, like as of today? Because you know I like that stat.
SPEAKER_01:That means for every 11 million flights, one might result in a passenger's death due to a crash.
SPEAKER_03:How many f- Okay, okay, okay, okay, but how many flights per day? Because so that sounds great.
SPEAKER_01:No, because it doesn't change. The stats don't change. Every time you get on a plane, those are your odds.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that that is a yes. See, this is a good thing. It's not a control, it's not a controlled thing like a grape room. You're right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:See, you're right. What was that book? You've talked about this book, how to understand maybe I've talked about it, like the how to understand stats or something like that. It wasn't me. Might have been me. I need to look that up. Because clearly I don't understand stats yet.
SPEAKER_03:Uh no, that makes sense. Okay, I like that because I I still don't love flying.
SPEAKER_01:Um see what I don't understand is they say statistical odds, and then the next bullet point says annual risk. And then it says in terms of yearly risk, the chance of dying in a plane crash is uh is often quoted as one in$205,000. What?$205,000. No, I'm just seeing money now. One in$205,000. And then it says below that, if you fly once a day, you'd statistically need to fly every day for about 55,000 years to be involved in a fatal crash. Perfect. I like that. I'm down with that. Let's go.
SPEAKER_03:Nah, that's fair.
SPEAKER_01:I still fucking hate getting on a plane.
SPEAKER_03:Me too. I'm going to Mexico in May, and you're going right away.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, next week. Do you after this Black Hawk helicopter thing? I'm like, I think you're okay.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think that Blackhawks are trying to smash the. That was weird. Okay, let's talk about it. Yeah, super weird. Uh first of all, intentional or not.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, fuck off. What do you mean, intentional or not?
SPEAKER_03:I'm just asking you a question.
SPEAKER_02:What do you think it was intentional? Straight up accident?
SPEAKER_01:Or was it was an accident?
SPEAKER_02:You think it was an accident?
SPEAKER_04:You're the one who thinks it's an accident? Are you are you fucking kidding me?
SPEAKER_02:We shouldn't do a podcast late at night because I don't like you tonight's DJ.
SPEAKER_04:You legitimately think that was an accident? You think that was intentional? 100%. Are you out of your mind? I think it was intentional. What? So then you agree.
SPEAKER_03:I I actually agree with you. I can I can so I can send you a video that I saw of somebody who tracked the helicopter like from where it took off to where it hit the thing. And it shows that there's pl other planes flying over, and it was trying, it was basically going in the trajectory of the planes, and it would veer. So if this one missed it, like this plane flies over and it doesn't get hit it. It veers off to another direction to another incoming plane, uh, doesn't hit it. Veers like it's like of there's obvious like lines of where the helicopter, the flight of the helicopter, that it was like looked like, and again, I don't know what I'm talking about. It looks like from that map that it was legitimately trying to get in the line of another plane.
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:What show me what you're talking about. I'm gonna I'll send it to you. This is insane.
SPEAKER_04:This is crazy talk. Oh, oh my god, this is crazy talk.
SPEAKER_02:I can't believe that you're the one you're the one. And there's something about those that that area you're allowed to fly helicopters, but they're only can be at like 200 feet above like your horizon or something, like your hard line or whatever. And the helicopter was flying at 300 feet above, so it was already violating that airspace and it didn't stop. And I was like, what? That's another thing. I was like, what? That doesn't make any sense. And then also, like, there's three people on that helicopter, and none of them two people face forward, and none of them could have seen the giant plane. I just don't I don't see it.
SPEAKER_01:Here's the thing, and I'm not a Blackhawk pilot, despite wanting to be. That would be cool. They were doing a check ride for a 500-hour pilot under nods. Oh sorry, what? Like night vision. Okay. So you're flying a helicopter. Nods. You're flying a helicopter at night doing a check ride under the stress. You're an airport?
SPEAKER_04:Yes, because what is wrong with you? I don't well, I I didn't plan the flight.
SPEAKER_01:But I'm saying that they're flying using night vision, which is looking through toil like looking through toilet paper tubes with green and black and white uh in instrument controlled airspace with a lot of data, multiple radio channels, and spatial awareness having to take place on behalf of the pilot who's being enough.
SPEAKER_02:What equipment? I don't under I don't really know, actually. I don't know. Well, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So you don't know, and you fucks are saying that this was intentional.
SPEAKER_03:I said I didn't say it was, I said it looks like it cleared.
SPEAKER_02:I thought you were gonna be all hardcore about this and just all that.
SPEAKER_03:So did I. That's why I thought you thought I was crazy for even asking the question, because obviously it was intentional.
SPEAKER_04:I thought that's where you were going with that. This is hilarious.
SPEAKER_01:Um I don't know if like the helicopters, because generally commercial airliners have technology, it's like it's called TCAS, right, where they can traffic collision avoidance system.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I was wondering if they had that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't think the helicopter had that.
SPEAKER_02:How does that helicopter not have that? I guess it's not really made for long commercial flights. Like that makes a little bit of sense. Actually, why wouldn't it be useless?
SPEAKER_01:And most of what I'm saying is I'm just parroting what I've seen Black Hawk pilots talk about online since this crash.
SPEAKER_03:But have they come out with anybody told who died yet in this crash? Like the uh like the plane or the helicopter?
SPEAKER_01:I think the pilots have been named, yes. And then some of the families of the deceased from the aircraft have come out and talked. It was really sad. It was like kids from figure skating and stuff. Super tragic, man. Like actually really sad, but I I think do you you I do know I said this on the podcast before. Don't attribute to conspiracy, which first can be attributed to negligence.
SPEAKER_03:Sure. I'm just saying it's uh I saw something that made it seem like it might have been intentional.
SPEAKER_01:Have you has your thoughts changed a little bit since we've started this conversation?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm not I'm not sold on it. I'm just I just parroting with something that I saw, thinking That's all we do on this podcast. 100%. So you're probably right. It probably was not intentional. But um there was one But I'm trying I can't find the post that I sent to somebody. I think it's no longer available.
SPEAKER_02:So some of Trump's comments there are they're logical, but like there was one about him like he asked if you're gonna go visit the plane crash site, and he's like, What do you want me to go swimming or something?
SPEAKER_03:Well, it's it's kind of true. 100% trick.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. There might be an opportunity just to do that with a little bit more tackle.
SPEAKER_02:That was when he said that though, I was like, oh my god. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Did you the videos there because there was the first video, which I'm assuming you've seen, but have you seen the better angle?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like the like clearer version.
SPEAKER_01:Where you can see the plane like part tumbling. I couldn't, I'm curious, but not really morbidly curious, what if any perception anybody on that plane would have had?
SPEAKER_03:I think a lot of them probably died on impact because there's a big explosion. Yeah. Uh but not all of them, for sure. And then they just it didn't take long to fall out of the sky.
SPEAKER_01:So right, but you have like if if I'm thinking like five, six seconds, they probably all died when it hit the water if they hadn't already. Like your brain, I I don't even know if you could process anything.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, you wouldn't. You'd be so confused. Right, it would just be like I always wondered like it was like super high, like what how high do planes fly? 30,000, yeah. If that happened up there, uh I just kind of realized I I would send a text and I would just sit there and wait for it. You know, like I'd visually like exactly. You just sit down.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I would actually I'd unbuckle and try to like use something as a parachute. Nope. Nope. Nope.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not doing that. No, I don't mind that. You miss 100% of the shots you a hundred percent of the stars you don't take.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. Is that that I have seen something recently uh they're trying to find or develop planes with detachable uh cabins. Yes, I've seen that. Yeah, it's interesting. So what so essentially in a close if something happens where the engines quit and it's gonna crash, it's inevitable. Essentially the passenger cabin would detach from the plane and like kind of like eject, like at uh like an ejection seat in a fighter jet, and it would have um something like like what's the word a parachute, parachute, thank you, to pop out and like help it just like kind of float back down to the ground. So it'd be like it's essentially like an ejection seat in a fighter jet, other than just like way bigger. That's I didn't know that. Yeah, I just saw I saw something about that a while back. I don't know if that's needed again.
SPEAKER_01:If your odds are very true, one in 11 million or 5,500 years.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think the planes that I go on, uh Allegiant Air is not gonna be grabbing those anytime. I don't think so. Flare air is not gonna be.
SPEAKER_03:Are you going to Mexico on Allegiant?
SPEAKER_02:No, God, no, no. I think it's like WestJet or something. We're going to I can't say we're going actually because it's her birthday present and she doesn't listen to the podcast, so never mind.
SPEAKER_01:But she listened to one not too long ago.
SPEAKER_02:Did she? Oh yeah, like five minutes of it.
SPEAKER_01:Um I used to work with a guy who had an airplane with a parachute. The Cirrus, uh, they make a couple different models of airplane, but they all have parachutes built in.
SPEAKER_02:Like the the entire structure of the airplane.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, they're like four to six cedar airplanes. Like the Cirrus Vision jet has a parachute. So if like shit goes wrong. And there's videos like people that have like had deployments of their parachute and their Cirrus planes and stuff, and generally quite successful.
SPEAKER_03:I watched a movie recently with Idris Elba. Uh I can't think of the name of it. Uh Idris Elba and some chick, and they Oh, the mountain between us.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. It was actually not bad. I I just I literally went into Google and I put Idris and then that came up.
SPEAKER_03:Boom.
SPEAKER_02:And alright.
SPEAKER_03:Uh anyway, so they're flying over the Colorado uh mountains and uh the plane crashes way up in the mountains, and they have to they're kind of sitting there waiting to see if someone comes and gets them a couple days, nobody's coming, so they decide we either sit here and die or we try to get to civilization and they walk. Oh, it's got that Irish girl that's yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, we talked about do you remember that podcast we recorded that got deleted? No. Yeah, we did like a legitimately good podcast that got deleted. Crap. It was our best one. Uh, because we uh remember I saying I have a guy that I used to play hockey with in college that got in a plane crash. And so he's the only survivor. Yeah. That one still bothers me. Yeah, that's crazy. Right? And because it was like eight people on that plane or something like that. Yeah. Uh, and he's the only survivor. Just walked away.
SPEAKER_03:Uh with the Blinkwin 82 guy, uh, when the drummer Travis Barker. Barker. Um, was he the only survivor on that? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I think he was. My wife's read the book, and uh man, I can't.
SPEAKER_03:He got like severely burned, but somehow he survived it. Doesn't fly anymore.
SPEAKER_02:And that that brought the band back together or something like that, I think, too. Like he found some religion after or something like that.
SPEAKER_03:Well, he found a Kardashian anyway. Good for him.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. Uh in positive aviation news, their uh company called Boom Supersonic just had their first successful supersonic test flight. Okay. Boom Supersonic. Yes. Okay. What why? Do you want to like that name?
SPEAKER_02:I just find it a little Sounds like the name of a song.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's actually we could probably make a song. Their goal is to produce a the the next uh supersonic commercial airliner.
SPEAKER_02:The XB1 baby boom.
SPEAKER_03:That's what it's called. Is the idea so I know I've seen ideas that the planes would essentially reach uh the outer inner atmosphere, outer atmosphere? Really high up, not quite going to space, uh, but then uh essentially use that to increase speed and then come back down and be really quick.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if that's their goal with this one. Oh, okay. Uh this is probably more so like a traditional airliner. Just very fast. Just very fast.
SPEAKER_02:Uh like a one of those fast trains.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but extra fast, like uh New York to Paris in you know, a couple hours instead of many, many hours.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'll wait till it's uh gone a couple times. I don't know. Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_02:You're not going to have first flight, eh? Nah. The Titanic version of supersonic flight.
SPEAKER_03:It's like the first version go to Mars. Yeah, cool. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna wait for like the second version, the third version. Yeah, maybe went to colonies established and you're not gonna die the second you land.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but it's exciting. People do cool shit. His LinkedIn profile, he used to work for the the CEO of Boom, the company Jason Hayes. Uh he used to work for Groupon uh before being the CEO, and his LinkedIn profile it says like under Groupon, it's like uh nothing will make you want to quit your job and chase your passions like selling internet coupons or something like that. And it's like shows how you're leaving for for uh I forgot about Groupon. Yeah, I think everybody did. Yeah. Is it still a thing? I don't how could it be? Yeah, people like coupon. We all love to save money.
SPEAKER_02:Groupon, it looks like it's still a thing. There you go. I actually think I bought a watch off of Groupon once. I bought a couple things like golf passes, I remember. Yeah. Like just random stuff like that, oil changes maybe.
SPEAKER_01:What else do you have on your list to talk about?
SPEAKER_03:Um, well, I was gonna talk about uh so I just came from my daughter's basketball game.
SPEAKER_01:Is that why you're wearing a colored shirt with flamingos on it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You'd like a business casual? Are you coaching this or what? No, I was just sitting in your state.
SPEAKER_03:You wore that on a yeah, and then like because I wasn't wearing a jacket.
SPEAKER_02:This is your fr this is your Friday night dress up to go to a high school basketball game. Is what you're wearing. He don't need to flex. That shirt is too tight.
SPEAKER_01:I wasn't wearing this, and then I kind of like you you went into your closet and you looked at that and you said, This is a good idea.
SPEAKER_02:This is what I want to wear to a high school girls' basketball game. This this exact shirt. Okay. But you have your flashlight on you, so I can't be mad at you.
SPEAKER_03:Uh so despite my clothing.
SPEAKER_02:It's like silky too. Hey, it's silky. It's not just like a normal shirt.
SPEAKER_03:It's just like guess where this came from.
SPEAKER_02:Aber the uh gap outlet. Shein.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, hey. Yep. My daughter was ordering clothes, and I'm like, what I got in there. I found a couple shirts. I'm like, ah, it's order these as you would like. They're like three dollars.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but I like the way that they've made the arms tight with that little cuff. That's right. It's flex number two for the podcast. Flex number three.
SPEAKER_02:For anyone who needs to know, it's the Men Summer Casual Manfinity shirt. It is called the Manfinity shirt and is on for$18.70.
SPEAKER_03:I also bought a white, it was a white deep V that's kind of stretchy that I can't wear. Because it's too deep.
SPEAKER_02:Is it too deep? It's too much. Yes. She's got a game next weekend, I think. There you go.
SPEAKER_01:If if you want the infinite masculinity shirt, use the average superior. Zero percent.
SPEAKER_02:Just start putting it in the coupon code spot, and eventually they'll catch on.
SPEAKER_03:So anyway, high school girls basketball. It was a really chippy game, and I do not like it's here's the thing weird thing. What do you mean by chippy? Like pushy, like some girl got elbowed in the face, like just it was got a little out of hand. And I don't like it. Like, I don't it's like it's weird, like it's I I think once once your daughter's older, it it's like in our job at the nursing home, I'm not worried about conf conflict. Conflict is just part of the job, and I've I'm not worried about that. But it's weird in like my personal life when it comes to that kind of stuff. I don't like conflict. It's I like I'm not afraid of it or anything, but it's just like so some of the parents will scream at the ref about like, hey, you gotta do something. We got and I'm sitting beside uh my wife and a bunch of the uh our art girls team on this side, on the literally right beside me on the other side is a mom and the dad of from some girls from the other team, and I'm just like I in the end, I'm like, I just want these girls to like play a good game and not hurt each other and let's go home at the end of the night. That's kind of my my take on it. And it was getting really bad. That's awesome. I don't want I don't but I don't like it because I'm like like I got I just don't want to be in unsportsman-like bad. Uh sometimes, yeah. And then the refs, but then the refs are like, you know, they call a play that's like they call a foul over there, but then they miss this one and they miss that one, and they call that one, and then people freaking out because they missed those fouls. And I'm just like, oh my god. Like, and then but and to be fair, when the refs like lose control of a game and it gets chippy and they don't do anything about it, it gets chippier. So like they need to just start blowing whistles and calling fouls and slow the thing down and get people to calm down. But but when they don't do that, it just gets worse. And so we had like two girls go off crying, one girl really wrecked her ankle. I don't think that was anything to do with anyone pushing, though. Uh my du my kids' glasses got she got slapped in the face and her glasses went flying off. Um, like just craziness. But like I'm I'm trying to be like cheerful to the team, but like also kind of be neutral. And like when the other team makes good shots, I'm like, oh, that's a good shot, like kind of clap. Like, I'm not, I don't care. Yeah, right? This is girls basketball 100%. This is high school basketball, right? And then I end up end up starting chatting with uh the parents of the kids beside me, and we're chatting, just being friendly, whatever. And um, but then it just gets a little bit weird when it's like it gets a little out of hand, and I'm like, I don't know, like so our girls push one of their girls, and their poor girl pushes our girls back, and I'm just kind of like this is awkward, I don't like this. Anyway, the point of this is that afterwards I go in a stand by looking at the the bracket for the what time we play the next day, and the the other team comes out and they're kind of doing the little scrimmage and having a conversation near me, and I it they're just like again, the perception of their them versus our the perception of the other team is so night and day sometimes that you just have to like you have to think of that sometimes. Like, so I I'm sitting there and I hear their the girls on their team complaining, like, oh man, they kept pushing me and they kept shoving me and they can't and then but like in my mind I know that uh our the people on our side, like the parents on our team and the f the kids on our cloud are are angry because oh those girls were shoving us and pushing us, they're so mean. This is BS. Why didn't more fouls get called? And the other team's thinking the exact same thing, right? And I'm just sitting there, I'm like, oh man, because it really got me thinking about this idea like of the perception is reality kind of stuff, right? Like your perception of the world is is literally everything. Like you can only per you can only see the world through your lens and your eyes. And if we don't if we don't like take ourselves out of that and like force ourselves to step back and get some perspective on like, okay, this well, number one, this is a high school girls' basketball, it's not the end of the world. Number two, they like I'm sitting here talking to the family with they have got two daughters playing who care just as much if their kids are getting pushed, if our kids are getting pushed, but we're like you're you're slanted towards your the people you care about, and it's like it's very it's just a very interesting kind of start when you start thinking about like you have to pull yourself out of that like perception, your own perception, and look at it from a different perspective. Otherwise, it's like everything's about you and everything's about your how you think, and you forget that this is exactly the same, they think exactly the same thing, but like towards our people, and it's just something simple as like a high school girls' basketball game, but like this perception versus uh uh perspective is something I saw a podcast about it a while back, and I was just it just kind of brought that back to my mind sitting in that moment. I'm like, man, this is weird.
SPEAKER_01:Like I was hoping you were at some point in the story, like shoulder one of these girls and the coaches and like like you guys suck.
SPEAKER_03:No, the only time that like I've thought about like what like I don't like what what you do, right, as a parent, like is if something somebody went after your kid like really like really badly, like someone like punched them in the face or something and saying like that, right? Like so then you well what would you do? I don't think you I I I think as long as here again, as long as there's adult intervention or ref intervention immediately to deal with it. I mean sports, things like that do happen, right? I'm not gonna jump on the field and you know, unless if nobody if nobody was doing something and it ends up literally being like someone's getting their ass handed to them.
SPEAKER_02:How many 15-year-old girls can you fight before you get like a hundred?
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, but okay, yeah, but 35-year-olds exactly, yeah. Anyway, you got that mixed up. Uh no, but yeah, it's just like, yeah, it's an interesting thing. And like you you have weird, like obviously, attachments, not weird, you have attachments to your to your kid. Oh yeah. And and so then you're very protective of that, but then in the context of sports, it's like there's some allowable like aggression that you just hope again, you just hope that it doesn't get out of hand because the people who are supposed to be controlling the game actually do their job and control the game, right?
SPEAKER_02:Um there's there's no way of separating that. There is you're just gonna be attached to your person the whole time. Completely. Which is weird if you think about like a combat sport, like even for yeah, like what we have that couple buddies from the nursing company, their kids are high-level wrestlers. And like that stuff when because they have stories when the other the opponents get a little out of hand and stuff like that, and there's that response, and they're just like, fuck, they get so mad about it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and and again, as a again. Like, what do you do? Well, in a sport where there's a ref, you just hope the ref knows what they're doing and they take control, because that's their job is to control that. And that's the thing with in these games is if if the refs are garbage and they don't control, like they don't call everything, like they don't make it very clear that you're not gonna get away with shoving and pushing and doing these things, uh, then it gets worse and worse and worse. Because now I'm pissed because you push me, so I'm like F you and I push you back, and then the ref turns right as you shove me even harder.
SPEAKER_02:And like I'm assuming volunteer refs probably too at this level.
SPEAKER_03:This this actually they were actually like higher refs for the tournament, but and they're older people. Usually it's like when it's like high school kids refing is garbage, it's complete pandemonium.
SPEAKER_02:But did any of the parents freak out? Yes, yeah, yeah, a couple, like make a scene.
SPEAKER_03:Um there's a chance that you will listen to this, and you know who you are if you're listening to this. And we appreciate the idea. I appreciate you. You know I appreciate you. I love it. I I bug her about this, like to her face. I bug about this, I bug her about this to her face. Her husband always looks at her like, you gotta be quiet. Can she come on the podcast? She can't do it, and that's okay. Yeah, she's super passionate about it, and she's got and she knows a lot more about basketball than I do, so she actually knows what fouls are. I don't I don't really know. I was like, No idea. That looks like a foul. I don't know. Um, and she gets a she gets a little upset. Use her name. No. If you listen to this, you know who you are. I and you know that you got out of hand, and I would say this to your face. I but but okay, she she got loud, but uh her what her daughter, who is probably the best on the team, uh had went off with like a really bad potential ankle injury. Um, and I didn't see if it was from a push or anything, so obviously she was really upset about it, which she should be because that really sucks. Um but it's funny because we always like joke, I always joke with her, like and if it because usually her husband coaches, and so I'll be sitting with her and he'll look at me and he's like, Hey, we next time can you just like put your hand over her mouth? And I was like, Oh, you want me to do this? And like sometimes like it's it's funny. We have a we joke about it, but no, she she was upset and rightfully so and so because it was it got out of hand and the ref should have done something more, but um uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But at the end of the day, it's high school basketball.
SPEAKER_03:True, it's high school basketball. But when you're I I think I I'm interested to see for you in 10 years when when your daughter's playing high school basketball getting shoved by some other little little girl.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I have no concept of any of this.
SPEAKER_03:I know it's interesting, it just definitely changes, and I uh I try to stay very out of it.
SPEAKER_01:I enjoy, I'm starting to enjoy something I never used to enjoy, but I'm finding enjoyment now is like sitting back and watching conflict.
SPEAKER_02:That's that's what my wife makes fun of me. She's like, what do you do at work? Because I'm like, yeah, I love just like if people are arguing and it doesn't involve us, I just gotta sit back and watch them.
SPEAKER_01:I'm trying to take that page away.
SPEAKER_02:I don't give two shits, but then at work, conflict's fun. I like conflict. Sure if you're not involved. Yeah. No, but even at work though, like there's a there's a little bit of excitement to dealing with some conflict and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03:See, I would agree with you that if I have zero skin in the game, I'm just gonna skip. I don't mind sitting back and watching it. I think it's interesting to see what's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_02:I'm just feeding off the negativity coming from it.
SPEAKER_03:But the problem is in this situation, it's not like I don't have any skin in the game. Because I do, like my daughter's on the team, um, and I like this person who's like yelling. Like we we get a lot.
SPEAKER_02:I I feel like I like her too. Like I like I like fired up people.
SPEAKER_03:We hang we've gone over for drinks, we hang out, like it's it's uh it we we really like. They're they're awesome. Uh it's just she gets real fired up at basketball games, and then this just is what it is. But then I feel like I feel like if something because now that that's happened, then I'm just waiting for like someone on the other team to start screaming at her, and then I'm like, okay, well, you gotta get her back, but then you got her back. Then I'm like, if something got crazy, I'm gonna have to intervene here, and I don't want to, but I'd have to.
SPEAKER_01:But that's the problem with working at the nursing home, is you also have a pretty robust concept of consequences of something.
SPEAKER_03:Completely, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like I I was in a golf tournament years ago, it was the wildest fucking golf tournament ever. Uh it didn't matter at all, right? Right. None of this shit matters. Bunch of friends, uh, play 18 holes of golf, bunch of foursoms, you know, and then if you tie, you go into playoffs, right? So you play 19, 20, 21. So we get to 21, which we're just replaying the ninth hole over and over. And one guy rams another guy's golf cart. And then they get off and they're legit having a fist fight. Oh, yeah. Except it's like David versus Goliath, like one dude's like 260, just humongous, and the other dude's like, he's like, he'd have to run around in the shower to get wet. And I and and like today, I would have just sat back and been like, let's see what happens. Yeah, but like and that was like five years ago. I was like, Oh, I can't let this fucking kid get destroyed, right? So I like broke this fight up, and it's just like, no, like I want to see the outcome of this shit, but you know the consequences is the problem. Yeah, right? Like, oh, you slip, you fall, you hit your head, whatever, right?
SPEAKER_02:Or yeah, did the little guy run his cart into the big guy? Or is it okay? Well then you know, at the same time, like oh I know, and that's the whole thing. I should have just been like you don't weigh in if you don't want to wrestle.
SPEAKER_03:Like that's it's your fault, yeah. You know, I think we need I think we need more. I I agree, we understand those consequences, but I think most people don't and they need to, and I think that requires people getting punched in the face for doing stupid things sometimes. It's without feedback, without without the like threat of like, okay, I'm assaulted you now. I'm getting charged with assault and going to jail potentially, or going getting charged. Because like that. So like you um actually uh at we're at lunchtime watching like A and E, which has these like collisions or like road rage, and it's like it's ones like that where like people someone cuts somebody off in the in traffic, uh, then they decide that they're gonna get out of the car and we're doing this, right? Or somebody is like clearly at fault, freaks out, gets out of the car, and wants to like fight, or wants to do something, so punches the dude's window. Like someone like that just needs to be punched in the face, and then they understand there's consequences. Don't get into your car, that's really stupid. Like, again, and again, why are you so upset about somebody who's driving fast or not driving fast?
SPEAKER_01:Like, just especially when the dude punching your window road racing is like Mr. Jones, the CPA from like fucking down the street, yeah. And you're like, bro.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Uh well, there's this one I saw today where this guy gets out of his car and grabs a dude on a motorcycle and pulls him off. And then pushes the guy's girlfriend, and then the guy kind of like like punches him once, and the dude is like falls down, and he is probably 65 years old, has no ability to defend himself, and he's still like trying to fight this guy. And this guy hit him once, and then he gets on top of him and he's like holding him down. He's like, What are you doing, man? Like, you pushed my girlfriend and you assaulted me, and he's like, and he's still freaking out, and just like no concept of the danger he put himself in. Because like one hit on like an old person who's like really stiff, they're gonna smash their head off the back of the concrete, and that could be it.
SPEAKER_01:I did have you seen the video it was going around on X maybe two months ago of the guy who like grabbed some dude's like three or four-year-old kid and like it is yeah, and like and the problem is dad was a bitch, like he didn't do anything, whereas I was like, oh bro, like see, in that case, there should be no you should be able to punch that dude multiple times and have no consequences for your actions, right? Uh and that would be the the expected societal or like mammalian response. Completely, right? Like, no, that's not what you do.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and and I would I would argue that in that case, if you again, as long as you weren't unreasonable and like put him in the hospital, that you're not gonna get charged with that.
SPEAKER_01:Even if you did, even if you did, if somebody grabs your kid and you fuck them up, I think you have a reasonable defense, depending on how much you fuck them up.
SPEAKER_03:That's my point, is like it has to be reasonable. Like you can't just like put him in a coma. Just in mount, just teeing off hammer fists, like at some point. Uh, there's a TV show I watched a long time ago called uh Kingdom. It was about an MMA gym. Did you ever watch that? No, it's actually really, really good. It's got Frank Grillo in it. Uh he was like the main guy. It's got Joe Daddy Stevenson. Uh one of the Jonas brothers is a fighter in that. Uh, anyway, there's this one scene where that was an odd one.
SPEAKER_02:Dude, it's a great stellar cast. Yeah, he is so good in it. Or the Jonas brothers.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he is so good in it.
SPEAKER_02:It's a it's Peter Dinklage was one of the ones.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, uh, somebody breaks into this MMA fighter's house and like he chases him down in the street and then like mounts him and just starts elbowing him over and over and over again. It's like, okay, you got him. Yeah, like you probably should stop now. And like somebody finally has to pull him off, and the guy almost dies.
SPEAKER_02:And you're like, yeah, like that's that's a little like that, like bite the curve, like yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:It's like, but that's the problem, is like some people just will snap, and the next thing you know, it's uh but this is why everybody needs to learn how to fight because then nobody would fight.
SPEAKER_01:I agree. Oh, they 100% wouldn't. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, speaking of perception, I had something very maybe similar happen to me that just I don't have none of it has to do with high school basketball. Sure. Perception. Uh I'm a big fan of Lex Friedman. Yes. I like him. I like his podcasts. Yeah. Uh I was surfing this, I was surfing the old Twitter the other day, and it was like I came across a thread bashing Lex Friedman.
SPEAKER_06:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:And so I was just like reading through it, whatever. I read through a couple of them like, this is fucking dumb. Close it. Uh, and then a couple days later, that podcast with the Joe comes out.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, with uh Gad or Lex. Lex. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So I go turn it on and immediately I'm like having this like fuck Lex Friedman in my mind. And it I literally had to stop and be like, what is going on? And I and I for real didn't realize it was like, oh, I read all this shit on X, and for some reason it has like tainted my thought process. Weird. I had to take this like conscious pause to be like, no, no, no, I like this guy. Like, why am I What was that?
SPEAKER_03:What was the dude's arguments? Were they anything reasonable? No, it was just like he's like whatever, he's dumb.
SPEAKER_01:He's yeah sure. Yeah, he's dumb. I don't know, man. Like it was that was the quality of the arguments, but it was like it was like this reminder like the things that we see like will taint our thoughts. Yeah. Even if we don't realize it kind of thing. Completely. Because like I I had to I had to like do a conscious reset of like, no, no, no, I saw this thing that has like fucked with my like perception of him.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I listened to uh one was the reason I said Gad sad is that he he was on recently and he talked about actually uh Lex blocking him on X or because Gad had he Gad kind of got pissed at him about kind of his take on the Israel-Palestine stuff and basically love will conquer all kind of attitude. And Gad's like, what are you talking about, man? Like I grew up in that area, like that's not gonna happen. Like that's not even a it's not possible of happening. And he kind of like went at him with that way, and then Lex didn't like it and blocked him. But it that's like it's kind of like uh his his take on life, and he wants to approach life from the the idea of like love, and it's good, it's a good vibe to put out there. It doesn't mean it's it might be a bit naive in some cases, but um yeah, it's not bad. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't know. It was just it was interesting to see the old things we let into our temple of our brain.
SPEAKER_03:Have you listened to uh the new alien people on Joe yet? Ooh, I'm about a third of the way done.
SPEAKER_04:They're a little bit off the t-pad.
SPEAKER_03:I can't.
SPEAKER_04:Really?
SPEAKER_03:They're not they're so like it didn't happen.
SPEAKER_04:It didn't happen. So what do you think? They're just making it up. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:No. So these guys then the six hour Protect Our Parks one or whatever. Those are the ones I listen to.
SPEAKER_03:So these guys are like, like, my problem that I had in the first 10 minutes, 15 minutes of this podcast is that to me, it's on the level of people who sit and talk about things that they can't possibly know anything about, like, um, well, as you know, there are seven types of angels. And a lot of people think that angels have wings, but they don't. They just really fast, and they can get from one place to another. And some of them look like this, and some of them look like this. And you're like, what? It's like, wait a minute. You're like speaking from this place of like you know this beyond a shadow of a doubt, and like I'm immediately like, I'm out, I can't listen to you. You're an idiot. You you can't, it's not not knowable. Whether first of all, whether they're real or not. Second of all, if they are real, you again, where are you getting your information from? We can't see them. Uh yeah, it's just all it all just comes across as conjecture. Completely. So these guys essentially are saying, no, there are these non-human NHIs, non-he non-human intelligence. Uh, they have they are in on earth, they have been to Earth, they are talking to our our governments, uh, they are giving us information. Nothing to uh they are provide, like the it's like very like stating them at stating this as absolute fact.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I hate people like that.
SPEAKER_03:And like it's like, what evidence do you have? And his ev well, I when I was in the program, I listened to a phone call, and the phone call, like it just to me, it just is uh just like everything else, it's like sh it's like you're you're speaking from this place of authority with nothing to back it up. Nothing to back it up. Did you listen to the whole podcast? I'm like uh an hour in, an hour, maybe a third in.
SPEAKER_01:I think that's the problem is the way they talk. You know, if you go on there and you just lay out the actual facts, hey, I listened to a phone call. This is what they said. I don't know what that means. Right. Right? But instead they they draw the conclusion then, or they present it like you said, as like this is a known true belief of there are non-human intelligences out there.
SPEAKER_03:And there's six different types, and uh the reason why then when they come here, sometimes they crash is because obviously radar. And Joe's like, well, like if they're that intelligent to get here, why would radar mess up their shit?
SPEAKER_01:And again, tell me how you know this. Exactly, exactly. I do agree that I I have picked up on that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it annoyed me within the first 10 minutes. I was like, I don't know if I want to get through this.
SPEAKER_01:But that's the same thing would happen. Anybody that presents themselves as an authority on like a certain topic and just I don't know what the term for it would be, but instead of relying on the facts, they just spout truths.
SPEAKER_03:But again, an authority on a topic that there are no facts in. Uh like in facts in terms of like, show me the evidence.
SPEAKER_01:But there are facts, but in in the 35-40 minutes I've listened to, they have not done a good job of laying out like, here is what my job was, here is what that job entailed. Yeah, here's the things I saw, here's the things I heard, here's some possible conclusions that I could draw from this, but that's not how it's going. Yeah, I just don't get it. But especially when you talk about things that are contentious. Completely. Right? Like when you talk about things that are already subject to a lot of like hyperbole or like like a lot of people talk about them in in these crazy, like they just make shit up, fantasy land, I don't know whatever the term would be.
SPEAKER_03:Well, then you gotta be really careful with how you describe the things that you saw or know or and and that's and that's the again, I guess we're back to almost like this word, the words they use matter. So it's like back to I I just relate it back to the conversation we had a couple of weeks ago, I think when Jeff was here about like sitting in church and hearing a preacher talk about like I I know there is a heaven and a hell, and the heaven looks like this, and heaven's gonna be like this. And you're like, dude, you don't I know you believe that, and it's okay to believe that. You that's your belief, but like again, uh say belief is different than knowing, like knowing versus believing, and like those are different things, and this is like the same thing with aliens or any other of those of those things that like aren't provable or haven't not been provable to this point, is like you you're you're speaking from a place of like absolute knowledge when that's not possible, and then immediately you lose me because I'm like you're lying. That's that's kind of like if you if he would say, Well, what I believe is this, okay, that's a different thing. You're you're admitting that it's a belief, and a belief takes some leap of faith because there's not all the evidence is there, right? Um I'm okay, I gotcha. I'm with you, I can listen, I can I can kind of get on, I can follow what you're saying. But when you're just coming from this state of these are these are absolute facts, I know this is true. There's well these aliens, and they they have you they use telep they use telepath telepath, telepathy, telepathy, telepathy, telepathy, they use telepathy to drive their ships, and then and you're like, you're telling you're throwing a lot and a lot of knowledge here that doesn't seem like it's possible to know because there's no evidence of it. I was just like, ugh. I don't know if I'll finish it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I probably will. Because I I I still find the subject matter interesting as like a fantasy Yeah, I agree. I just want to pretend this is real for two hours while I listen to it.
SPEAKER_03:Sure, but I I'm I'm I'm on board. Give me a fantasy book. I know you know it's not real. You you're not trying to pretend that it is real, but people are sitting here trying to like for three hours talk to Joel like this is a real thing.
SPEAKER_01:You're like, well, okay, prove it. Would you feel the same way if you listen to the podcast from the guy who did remote viewing?
SPEAKER_02:I was just gonna bring that up. That was such a terrible podcast.
SPEAKER_01:Did you listen to it?
SPEAKER_02:The whole the Sean Ryan one? Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_01:You listen to the whole thing? The whole thing like six hours.
SPEAKER_02:The whole thing, just because I and the whole time I was thinking about how much I hate you. I just I cannot handle it. There's no way that that is true in any way. And the guy's not even a remote viewer. Like, he is not a remote viewer. He he ran the program for a remote viewer.
SPEAKER_01:Oh no, you need to listen to remote viewer number the number one, like the guy that did the remote McMurtry or whatever the fuck his name is. Wow, it's all terrible. I don't know. I just wanted to.
SPEAKER_02:Oh no, no, he he was the remote viewer because he had the things when he was a kid, and yeah, yeah, yeah. It was dumb. Um it was his imagination.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't yeah, because I felt yeah, but there's no proof.
SPEAKER_02:And how could there not be? This is because the remote viewing it, that's his that's his perception of it. You know what I mean? If you if you could back it up with like some facts, because even the stuff they were talking about, like, oh they went and hid something or something like that. I can't remember the whole story. They went and hid something and they said, where is it, and described the area that it's in. And like they weren't right. You know? Back that up with facts, or like tell me it's in a in a bush if you put it in a bush, or tell me there's trees around, or something like that. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I just want like I just I want it to be true.
SPEAKER_02:I want remote viewing to be a thing.
SPEAKER_01:Why? Because it's neat.
SPEAKER_02:Because it's cool.
SPEAKER_01:Have you listened to the one with Joe with the guy who he was like researching consciousness? It was like not too long ago either. It was a scientist talking, and again, he talks about some crazy fucking shit. How like he he just started seeing shit.
SPEAKER_02:I don't mind. I I wish there's like an alt not an alternate reality, but I I wish and I believe there probably is too. Maybe there is an alternate thing that we don't know about yet. Like we don't know about like remote viewing it. There's it exists, we just don't know about it enough to to prove it's real. You know what I mean? And I know there's something like that out there, and I'm just waiting for that to happen. Because that will happen in our lifetime. They will prove something like remote viewing to be true. I think in our lifetime, yeah. We're gonna live in like 40, another 40, 50 years, probably. Oh, bro.
SPEAKER_01:I'm doing like another hundred.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's right. Uh so like so something that like again is on the same uh idea as ghosts, right? Like, I don't think they're they're real, but again, I'm not like I'm not oh I'm open to evidence, right? If you there's evidence and then there's something like a prove it. So here's here's the thing. Uh what one of our new nursing home staff that we're training, uh, somehow this came up, ghosts, and he was like, I absolutely didn't believe in ghosts, but I have to show you something. And so he showed me a picture that he took. He was at Elcatraz uh and taking pictures of just different things in Elcatraz with his digital camera, like a nice digital camera, uh, not his phone. And he's taking pictures of stuff. Uh so I wasn't really looking at him, the pictures as he was taking them, just taking pictures of like here's a plaque of explaining whatever who's in the cell, something like that. Does all his pictures, leaves for the day, goes home, um, starts looking through his pictures. One of the pictures he took was of essentially a wall with a plaque on it. He said, When I took the picture, it was there was just that's all it was, wall with a plaque. In the picture, and he showed me the picture, it freaked me out. In the picture, there is a silhouette of a human-shape kind of um thing, like passing like in the middle of his picture. So there's there's like this black uh kind of outline of a person that you can't really make out any like distinct things on it, but it's an obvious like human-shaped. So somebody walked behind him in the reflection and caught their shadow. Or no. Or tell me.
SPEAKER_02:No, like there's another possibility.
SPEAKER_03:Because I was like, dude, no, there's no way. He showed me a picture, I'm like, I can't explain it. I'm like, and I'm like, okay, come on. Like, there's no possible way somebody walked in front of you. He's like, no, absolutely no, not. They're like, we were all like there was nobody there. I took a picture of it, didn't think anything of it, looked at it after, it freaked me out. I didn't and I I've said the picture because I he's like, after that, it's like I don't know how what to say other than maybe go surreal. Uh, because he's like, there was no possible way that like I know for a fact nothing was in my lens or anything when I took that picture. I'll get him to show it to you. I want ghost to be kind of scared so bad. It kind of freaked me out a little bit.
SPEAKER_02:And and I think like that that's an example of like the thing. Someday we will have the technology to capture spirits in pictures. Oh, I think we like like those like a like a pro a proton trap or whatever the hell. No, but like maybe the like we don't have the technology to capture that energy. Because I I I kind of I believe in ghosts and the energy and all that kind of stuff. We don't have that yet, but we will have that before we die. With the technology that's advancing, we can we we don't know everything there is to know.
SPEAKER_01:My problem not at all, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03:My problem with the with the ghosting with all these things is like you think by now some we have the cameras are everywhere, and it's the same idea with aliens. Like, there's literally cameras everywhere. How have we not got a better picture or caught a video of if it's ghost, like a ghost wandering a hallway somewhere?
SPEAKER_01:Or we have I mean we being people have.
SPEAKER_04:Sure, but has that any have the any of them been legitimized, like legitimately? Ghost hunters? It's all garbage, is it not?
SPEAKER_01:Of course it is. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, is it is it real? I think every one of those shows is just complete garbage. Prop. So of course it is. So it's like so. If that's the case, like you'd think there'd be legitimate footage out there that of like stuff that is unexplainable and like you can prove that it hasn't been tampered with, all that stuff, that is like, okay, yay, maybe some there's something out there. Um, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I think if you were to search YouTube or something like that, you could find some examples of this legitimate footage. I mean, I would tend to agree with you generally that there is so much that we don't understand, so many other possibilities for whatever forms of planes of existence or forms of energy or this, that, or the next thing that like we're not even getting remotely the whole picture.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't think we are. Like fourth dimension, fifth dimension, yeah, like that kind of thing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like I would say that's a plausible, quite likely thing that may also explain a lot of these different topics. Completely, right? It's interesting. I just don't know. You're very optimistic about us figuring that one out.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe I'll we'll like maybe not ghost, maybe not the remote viewing, but there will be a technology we invent or create or stumble upon that will allow us to see something that we never knew existed before, like like a an energy thing or a fifth dimension or something. It will happen. I just can't think of like an example in the recent, like the last 150 years of of that. Like I can't think of uh something to relate it to say that's happened before. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:Like I can't I can't pinpoint that advancement in technology in the next 10 years is just gonna be like we I don't think we can fathom what it's gonna be like in 10 years from now. And we're just gonna be seeing ghosts and shit. I don't think I don't think it'll be that, but I just like it it's what it'll do to change the world. I mean, already AI, right? And is the next thing, and then what what cut what stems from that other than you know us all dying humans.
SPEAKER_02:The quantum computing thing, I kind of went down a rabbit hole the last time and like it realized that all of my everything that I have is not gonna be secure when quantum computing is a good idea. Nothing is, nothing is nothing will be. Yeah, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_03:And and if that's the case, then like the whole financial system is screwed. It's all done. So then it's like what uh what do we go to? It's like pure socialism. Like it would it almost would have to be if like there's nothing is secure, the financial system is garbage because like you can let there all it's all numbers in a machine somewhere that can be manipulated just really easily. So what does it even mean? Like nothing. You you could be honest on the gold. Go back to like gold, like a physical status.
SPEAKER_01:Bitcoin. Well, you bitcoin wouldn't be secure. True, that's true. But I also do think it's easy to compare this hype hypothetical advancement within the current state of the things it might affect, but these things are gonna advance at the same time. Well, I ideally quantum quantum cryp cryptography is going to advance at the same time as quantum cryptography. Hopefully. Hopefully, uh, like hypothetically. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Again, that's why it's probably hard to envision what that might look like, but it's gonna be it's gonna get Western for a while, I think. I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen. Um I yeah. I I everybody that has seen a ghost is very convinced.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Well, but that's like the anecdot the anecdotal anything, right? Anything that happens to you, you have an experience that is unexplainable. Again, your percep because of your perception, this is where this is the hard part with it. Because of your perception of the world, you attribute that experience to something. My my problem with it is if your perception of the world is based on, say, growing up uh believing in you know angels and demons and spiritual stuff, you would you start attributing those things that happen to you to that realm. It's like it's angels, it's demons, it's good, it's bad, it's bad, it's spiritual, it's a spiritual warfare. It's like you hear Tucker Carlson talking about all the time now. Um, so that's because that's the lens of the world that you look through, it's the perception that you look through. If that's not your worldview, if you never really grew up with that perception, now it becomes ghosts or it becomes spirits or something like that, but you go down that road instead of the road of good and evil, like spiritual realm. It's like still maybe something ethereal and something like over there, but it's just again, based on your perception, is where your point what your interpretation of the event that happened to you, which is the problem I have with like these five. Finite, like well, this is for sure what it was, or this is for sure what it was. Because it's like, well, what does tell me about you? Like, what do you think? What do you believe? How did you grow up? What was your belief system? These all affect how you perceive that. And then and then because of that, it's it it it affects how you tell that story.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, which is I mean, and you can't filter that out. You can't. No, we all have that. It would be interesting to be able to filter that out. Like, I'm trying to think as you talk about it, I'm trying to think of like what I would likely default to, probably aliens. Yeah. Uh because like everybody, it seems like every alien researcher also has a UFO encounter story.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, they that's also was weird to me with this these guys are like, oh yeah, when I was 10 years old, I saw this thing.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And I like like I want to know like what did you actually see? Can I like if you if if you could see the same thing and be like, would you have the same thoughts? Uh I don't know. Like I also I also like just often look into the sky when I'm driving home, hoping to be like, come on.
SPEAKER_03:Uh so Tony has a story uh recently that when he was driving his kids to a soccer thing, he saw something and couldn't explain it.
SPEAKER_02:It's not by the he's not on the highway, was it?
SPEAKER_03:Uh he was on the highway driving somewhere and he's looking trying to figure out what is that was it near Granham? I think so, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Was it Granum Joe? What's Granham Joe? That's the ghost that haunts the Granum Highway. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_04:He thought it was a he thought it was like a Granum Joe.
SPEAKER_03:Never mind. All right. No, no, no. It was like uh like a spaceship or like a like something in the sky that he thought.
SPEAKER_02:I got really excited there.
SPEAKER_03:The best part of that story is he was looking at it and he's trying to figure out what the he's like, what is that? And he tries to tell his wife about it, and she has listened to the show, and if you're listening, it's hilarious. She like, no, no, no, that's stupid. I'm not, no, I'm not even looking. No, you're you listen to those guys too much. You guys talk about stupid things, they're getting in your head.
SPEAKER_01:What do you mean you're not looking? Of course you're looking. You have to look.
SPEAKER_04:She just absolute nope, nope. You can't just ignore it and make it go away. Just then, you know it's you. Damn it. Yeah, she does just like no. I mean, he probably saw a drone.
SPEAKER_01:A bowl floating in the air. He says no. Ah, why hasn't he told me about it? We'll have to talk about it. Okay, actually, what the fuck, bro? If if I see a UFO, that's the first thing I'm telling my friends. Uh-huh. I'm disappointed.
SPEAKER_03:He'll have to explain it better. I can't remember all the details, but it was freaking them out.
SPEAKER_01:I haven't seen a ghost. I haven't seen a UFO. I haven't even seen like a like an oversized rabbit.
SPEAKER_03:Yet. I don't think I've seen any of that either. I do remember again being like a teenager thinking that I've had like experiences, but I also am very aware to the fact that I was primed in my upbringing to kind of see those things, like want to see those things, like good and evil, bad angels, demons, like the world is run by that. There's it's a this this hidden war happening, you know, right around us. Um, and so I have a hard time distinguishing. I'm very aware that I think a lot of that was just like hypercharged, um, emotional. Like, I need I want to see this, I want to feel this thing. It's it's it's interesting. It's interesting now.
SPEAKER_02:There's a motivation that you actually want to do.
SPEAKER_03:There's a motivation behind it, right? There's a motivation because it's it's and so because of that, it's like I discount all of it because I don't think any of that was actually that I don't think anything actually happened. I just think it was like I'm I'm wanting I'm wanting to see something. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:I do. I wonder like there obviously are ways that you can be more in tune to those things going on around you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Well, people who like feel energy. Like, I I don't I think it's weird, but I think there's people who like legitimately can like get vibes off of people better than others.
SPEAKER_01:There has to be. There also has to be well, I say has to be, but I there has to be like some forms of telepathy.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:What's it called when you go to the room and the person like summons like a spirit to talk to the group?
SPEAKER_01:Seance?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I'm just gonna look and see if there's anything in our town.
SPEAKER_01:I'll do it. Because we're gonna go do it. I'll do it. 100% I'll do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm all fine if you're coming. You are going. Such garbage. We're going to a seance.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, there it is. Uh which way intuitive healing?
SPEAKER_01:No, let's do it. Let's do it. What do we have to lose? It's garbage. I'm not gonna wait. It'll be hilarious.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it's closed right now.
SPEAKER_01:I I I I'd do this. Yeah, why not?
SPEAKER_02:Why the fuck not?
SPEAKER_01:Fuck it. Let's do it. You're coming. You tried to make us go do like a nine-dimensional breathing.
SPEAKER_04:It's breathing, bro. It's good for you. You know that.
SPEAKER_01:There was a crystal.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So don't don't just be saying, oh, I'm not going to a side.
SPEAKER_03:But like that's not the thought. That's not the stuff that's that's important. It's the actual breathing that was actually really, really good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, let's let's do it. But just to take you back to the maybe somewhere else.
SPEAKER_02:We'll see. They just look exactly like what I thought they would do.
SPEAKER_01:They would look like we're going there. It's gonna be interesting.
SPEAKER_02:Let's do it. I'm good. Maybe they'll be the sponsor. Maybe that's the sponsor of the podcast. No. Which way intuitive healing?
SPEAKER_01:You're you're being closed-minded. Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But why not? What's the worst that can happen? You're gonna eat fucking grapes in a room that can kill you. Oh god, do you think it's gonna like yeah?
SPEAKER_03:I mean, if you're asking what's the worst that could happen, if that's that could be probably bad. Yeah, but no, but that's stopping you from going, but you're conjuring.
SPEAKER_02:But you could die from a grape and you're still eating grapes? No, it's not. One in 1000, bro. Let's go to I love the conjuring movies though.
SPEAKER_03:I actually haven't watched any of them. What I meant was uh uh what's the old one with uh like Exorcist Exorcist.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's not gonna happen.
unknown:Is it?
SPEAKER_03:Did you ever watch Stigmata? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That was a good show. I don't watch horror movies. That was good. I really do not like horror movies. Me neither, but for some reason I watched some of them. I knew you were. So weird.
SPEAKER_02:My wife and I, that's our thing. We just that's the movies we watch together.
SPEAKER_01:Like I remember everything. I remember when I was like like 13, 14, I'd go over to my neighbor's house and watch horror movies with her because like it was a good excuse to like hold hands.
SPEAKER_02:Nice. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but that's the only time. Did you cut cuddle under a blanket?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Nice. Wow, good, good for you, man. Nice.
SPEAKER_01:Um, you know how like mice, you've heard the stories how like if mice do a maze on one side of the planet, they then solve it better on the other side of the planet. So like some sort of like shared consciousness. Well, that's the thing, right? Like, if on this theme of talking about like whatever energy thing or telepathy, like there is something. There has to be something. Or when when people lose loved ones that they're really connected with and they can just tell before it happens, like I don't know, man. I want answers to these things.
SPEAKER_02:I wish Ouija boards like legitimately no, like like I wish that was a thing. Like a real, like this happened, this is how do you know it's not? Do you think because there's well because there was there's always somebody fucking moving it with the code?
SPEAKER_01:Have you ever done a Ouija board?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but there were there's like how long ago? We want to do another one? We'll bring we'll bring it to which way? Um Psychic Suzanne is the other one in our city. Uh two two Google reviews, five stars.
SPEAKER_01:That's soon to be three.
SPEAKER_02:Let's do it. Let's let's just fucking go. I don't want to.
SPEAKER_01:You're it's you're coming.
SPEAKER_04:I was gonna say something.
SPEAKER_02:You can come, but don't be like pissy pants the whole time.
SPEAKER_01:You're like the guy going to the hypnotist that's like, I can't be hypnotized.
SPEAKER_02:No, just come and wear that shirt.
SPEAKER_03:That but that that that that's with the hypnotist thing. That's that's a problem with hypnotism, right? Never have. I never have. I want to go to that. I think I legitimately think people can be hypnotized.
SPEAKER_04:Can? Can. Yeah, of course, they can.
SPEAKER_01:100%.
SPEAKER_03:Right, but I want everybody, but not everybody can be.
SPEAKER_01:I think everybody that thinks that they're being hypnotized. That's my point. Because, and don't get me wrong, I was that guy that was like hypnotist? Fucking stupid. Yeah. I think to try, yeah. I want to be hypnotized. I'm willing to be hypnotized.
SPEAKER_02:I'm concerned about long-term damage. I honestly am. I don't want to be hypnotized because of that. But besides that.
SPEAKER_03:I don't I don't think I could be hypnotized.
SPEAKER_04:Because you're that guy. I don't think I could happen to me. Because you're you're too closed-minded.
SPEAKER_03:But you gotta have an op- you have an open mind. I don't think I'm open closed-minded. I just don't think it would work.
SPEAKER_01:Because you don't think it wouldn't work because you don't think it would work. Yeah, maybe. That's a that's the it's a self-fulfilling statement. Right. So, uh yeah, I guess. Just open your mind. I don't want to. Why would I want to? Why wouldn't you want to? We we only get to live for like look how many weeks you have left.
SPEAKER_03:Have you seen have you seen get out?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, that part where she like keeps stirring the thing. Yeah. That freaked me out a little bit. What?
SPEAKER_02:Do you want to be hypnotized? No. I know I know a hypnotist.
SPEAKER_01:Like personally?
SPEAKER_02:Yes. I just googled hypnotists in our city, and there's one, and I know her. Yeah, we're doing this. We're doing this. I'm doing this.
SPEAKER_03:And that point where she goes, dude, and I just like goes sinks down to like and sinks out of like consciousness. Is that not scared like hypnotism? It freaks me out a little bit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You're scared. That's why you don't want to be hypnotized. Yeah, maybe. You're worried you're gonna get sent to the under or whatever it was called. What was it called? I don't remember. That was a good movie. I like that movie. You know a hypnotist.
SPEAKER_02:I look at I wish You know a hypnotist, and we're gonna talk when the podcast is over.
SPEAKER_01:I know a hypnotist?
SPEAKER_02:Anyway, keep going.
SPEAKER_01:I wish people could see your reaction right now.
SPEAKER_02:I am so pumped. We need a video podcast for you. So pumped. She should come on the podcast, actually.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. I want to talk about hypnotism. Have you guys seen Magic for Humans? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I have. Is that is that the is that the guy that does uh is Netflix? Yes.
SPEAKER_01:What's his name?
SPEAKER_03:I don't remember. What? But he does like um like those scenarios where he'll set up like, hey, your my brother did this to me. Is that the one? Yeah. Okay, I did watch that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Can you look that up, Jason? Oh, I like him.
SPEAKER_02:I I recognize his guy. Justin Wilman.
SPEAKER_01:Justin Wil Wilman's Wilman. Willman. Justin Wilman. So what's that show, his most recent show on Netflix?
SPEAKER_02:Uh I'm sorry. Uh Magic for Humans. Is that what it is? That's uh Netflix magic.
SPEAKER_01:So the most recent series or season of it, he has an episode that's all about hypnosis. Okay. Instead of playing PlayStation tonight, I just want you to go watch it. It's like the it's the season finale. And if it is legit and my gut tells me it is legit, it is fucking unreal what they do to somebody under hypnosis.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I think I've seen this one. Is it where they take him from one location to another location? Yes. Yeah, I did see that one. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Have you seen that, Jason?
SPEAKER_03:It's like a sleep study, right? Is that the sleep study?
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. I got three seasons to watch to get to that season.
SPEAKER_01:Can you jump into season three? Just go watch that episode because then we can talk about it before our hypnotist friend comes on.
SPEAKER_02:That's actually what might happen if she says yes.
SPEAKER_01:But like they hypnotize a dude, and then I don't want to ruin it for you because I really actually hope you watch it. It was so fucking cool how they hypnotized him. Yeah. Like the first time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that was neat.
SPEAKER_01:Come on.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know, man. I'm not saying it doesn't, I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm just saying I don't think it can be happening.
SPEAKER_01:Look how many weeks you have left in your life.
SPEAKER_02:What's the worst thing that can happen when we'll be hypnotized? What's gonna happen? They're gonna hypnotize you, you walk like a chicken for a bit or whatever, and then all of a sudden you're out of it.
SPEAKER_01:It's will they do private will she? Will she do private hypnotism?
SPEAKER_02:We could probably arrange that because we yeah, we'll yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like just like the three of us, maybe maybe Tony will come too. He'll be Tony too.
SPEAKER_02:Why don't she does if the whole uh the gang hypnotism? It looks like it's a kind of a one-on-one type session.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, is this like more like therapy?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, she's not she's not a show person here. We're not on a stage and yeah, we'll figure it out.
SPEAKER_01:Well, no, I want to because I I I I guarantee Tony would be the same way. I feel like I don't I would I would want somebody being a spotter for I want a spotter in there.
SPEAKER_02:Like to make sure what you don't like get like unduly naked or something. Yeah, I don't know. You don't know what's gonna happen. Have you been hypnotized before? No, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:See, but would you know? Would you know if you have been? Would they just erase that from your memory?
SPEAKER_02:Shit. Good point.
SPEAKER_01:Uh-huh. I'm sure there are some hypnotherapists that have done some fucking unprofessional things to their patients under hypnosis. Sure. Yeah. A hundred percent. There's some unethical people out there. Yeah. Yes. Yes. I I want.
SPEAKER_02:I'm just upset. It's just too late to texture, right?
SPEAKER_03:Uh, this is why like the unethical people part. It's like you have to, if you ever ask somebody a question like if you could have uh a superpower either flying or invisibility. Anyone who picks invisibility, you gotta be suspicious about.
SPEAKER_02:Uh oh, because they get nefarious. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Well, I would pick invisibility.
SPEAKER_04:What purpose would you pick in?
SPEAKER_02:So I could steal a bunch of money.
SPEAKER_01:Because I would have significantly more power over the world being invisible than just being able to fly places. Tell me what tell me good things you could do while being invisible.
SPEAKER_02:What good things can you do with flying? I'm not spelling but you're not doing bad things.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, I could I could I could leave little like I could leave like little Hershey's kisses kisses and like a trail behind people's walk. That's what you do. And when they turn around, they're like, ooh, that's a fun little treat. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02:Piece of candy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, piece of candy. Was it was it the movie? Was it called The Invisible Man with uh Kevin Bacon? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he didn't do good things.
SPEAKER_02:There's gotta be ones that did though. I don't think so. The the invisible thing from the oh the boys they he no, he didn't. He did bad things.
SPEAKER_01:He did bad shit too. But you could do some fun things. Like, not everybody wants to do bad shit.
SPEAKER_02:This is selfish power.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not doing good things.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not saying that you want to do bad things. I'm just saying, what good things can you do with invisibility? It would all tend to be you would 100% have to do it.
SPEAKER_01:Because I would like sit in like meetings and be like, yeah, like I hear what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_02:The way your voice doesn't really that's doing something else.
SPEAKER_03:And you know you're doing something bad because you did your voice.
SPEAKER_02:But if but if you're invisible, are your clothes invisible too, or is he just naked?
SPEAKER_04:Nobody can see you. Nobody can see you. Could you imagine if your clothes weren't invisible?
SPEAKER_02:I know that's what I mean. Like you'd have to be naked the whole time. Super uncomfortable. You have to be well, no, for uncomfortable for an hour and then you're just used to it and realize you can't.
SPEAKER_01:But like, what about like because you would be you'd struggle to be outside because your feet would hurt? You'd have to be naked.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. But you'd be cold.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, let's let's just presume your clothes are also invisible now.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, yeah, if your clothes are invisible, I take invisibility. Not for not for like shitty things. What am I gonna do with the flying? I don't like heights. Get from A to B a lot faster. Oh, cool. Then my family can fucking fly flare air and catch up to me. Like, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:Like, I don't I don't know. I don't get kittens from trees. I don't know. But I'm just saying there's no good thing you can do with invisibility.
SPEAKER_02:Plenty of good things.
SPEAKER_03:No, you can steal money.
SPEAKER_02:I can't think of a really good thing to do with invisibility.
SPEAKER_01:Other than retrieving kittens, I can't think of really a good thing you can do with flying.
SPEAKER_03:But sure, I'm just saying you're not doing uh inherently bad things. You don't know that with flying?
SPEAKER_02:I would do good things because it would provide me entertainment. Like I would create a reality TV show and I just go fuck with people and it would just like one of those things.
SPEAKER_03:In the invisibility?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like like uh like what's not Tosh point. What was the guy uh Ashton Kutcher did that show? Punked? I would do punkt, but I'm invisible. And so I could really mess with people and scare them. And then I would take it.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you could like imagine you could like go like solve people's problems, you know.
SPEAKER_02:I can't think of a reasonable way to do that when you're invisible, though. Like I'm trying to figure out a way that it's you become a spy.
SPEAKER_03:He's right. Like he's like you become a spy. Like people pay you to, hey, is my wife cheating on me? And you're like, well, let's find out.
SPEAKER_02:No, then you're naked in the corner of the room. Because your clothes aren't invisible and you're just naked.
SPEAKER_03:That is my point, is that that would happen. You would do that.
SPEAKER_01:No, I mean like picture the scene where like in the movies the police are at like, you know, the the hostage taking, and you just like you're invisible. You just one good thing. Okay, I like that. Uh yeah. There's lots of good things you could do.
SPEAKER_02:How do you get there though? That's the thing. Like you're not gonna be able to use that power because if you could fly and be invisible, then you could fly to it quickly.
SPEAKER_04:I could just drive there. Yeah, get out. You're you're naked.
SPEAKER_01:Am I always invisible? Can I turn it on and off? You you're always in your this is the problem.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's a curse if you're invisible. No, no, that's a curse. If you're always invisible, it's a curse.
SPEAKER_01:How am I gonna have to do that?
SPEAKER_03:You're dead. You're a ghost. You're ghost. No, you just like an invisible man, you put paint on your face so they can see you when they want people to see you.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, and then but the no, that's that's a terrible superpower. Yeah, I don't like it. And then I don't like pottery with people. That's about all they do if you're invisible.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. And like you're gonna you're gonna have no friends. Yeah. I mean, we can still podcast.
SPEAKER_02:You could you could just eat when you eat is it invisible when you swallow? Like that's another thing. It's internal. So it's not.
SPEAKER_01:I still think, yeah. I just I think you're I think your dislike towards invisible people is misplaced.
SPEAKER_03:It's not no, he's right that you can't do anything. You can't do anything fundamentally good being visible. If someone really badly wants to be invisible, they're not a good person.
SPEAKER_01:If you could choose between being invisible and manipulating time to like slow it down immensely. Oh, time. Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's pretty obvious.
SPEAKER_03:What would be the purpose of slowing down time? Dude, think of all the fun shit.
SPEAKER_02:That you could do good things with that.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, but like I'm saying I'm thinking I'm slowing down time, so everybody is like not moving.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. What was the movie where the buddy did that and he just went and like it wasn't the flash. No.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, it was Adam Sandler remote. He had a remote. Remember, he could control time with the remote in his hand?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, click. That was good. This is like a superhero.
SPEAKER_02:The same concept. Oh.
SPEAKER_01:It was like uh X-Men or something. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Well, there wasn't the X-Men. The guy was really fast. Remember?
SPEAKER_01:Um TV show called Heroes where the guy had uh time powers. But you could like slow down time, nobody's moving, and then you could just like there's so many fun things you could do.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like you're gonna make this weird again.
unknown:Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Like, what are you doing when you slow down time?
SPEAKER_03:It sounds lonely to me.
SPEAKER_01:Like so you're by yourself while everyone's like stuck in this like perpetual Well, no, because you can control it, you can speed it up again, but like I'd stop time, I'd put a tie on you, which would you speak with your own.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, see, all these things that I'm thinking about, they're just fun pranks for me to play on people.
SPEAKER_01:But they're still good. Like you could be like in an impending car crash, be like, oh, I'm just gonna remove it. What are the odds of a car crash? One in two hundred thousand or something. What was it? Yeah, something like it. One in two hundred, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:You I can't actually think about how to use these powers for good.
SPEAKER_01:This is a problem. Yeah. We could do good things. Yeah. Just not you, because you apparently, according to you, nobody has any good intentions. Stop flexing your peck at me.
SPEAKER_02:I'm pumped to get hypnotized with you guys.
SPEAKER_01:You're pumped to what?
SPEAKER_02:Get hypnotized with you guys.
SPEAKER_03:As long as I can do it with you guys.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'll we'll we'll talk to her.
SPEAKER_03:Stay tuned on the next episode of the Average Spirit Podcast. We'll probably be by ourselves again. However, one day we'll might get a hypnotist in here.
SPEAKER_01:I have, however, potentially lined up a doctor to come on that's gonna talk about all the things she has taken out of other men's other men's. I shouldn't say other men, because she's not a man, but things she has retrieved from beeholes.
SPEAKER_04:Ooh. Yeah. And that's it. That's all that's her specialty. That's her.
SPEAKER_01:Just uh search and rescue mission. Wow.
SPEAKER_02:I have a lot of questions. Awesome.
SPEAKER_01:It would be interesting. Uh uh, I don't actually know if she has listened to the podcast yet, so hopefully Well, hopefully not this one. Hopefully not this one.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I don't know, maybe she'd use her powers. Well, we might have had a guy come here talk about a 250 mile race, but I don't think he wants to come anymore because you guys all said that. Did he listen? He was my I don't know. He's my boyfriend. Have you texted your bro?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I want to hear from him. I haven't. Oh I've never talked to anyone who's done that.
SPEAKER_01:So And now it's now it's too late. It's not too late. Well then text him, text him right now. No, it's ten o'clock at night. Well, he just said it's not too late. That's weird. Just be like just text him, say you up.
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