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The Average Superior Podcast
This show features three nursing home attendants who have realized their brains are incomplete and their bodies are always in pain. They are peasants outside the castle walls attempting to navigate a world that feels rigged while simultaneously trying to be 1000% sure about things they know nothing about!
The Average Superior Podcast
#69 - We Are Back
Hey Everyone. Sorry we have been gone so long. Life kept getting in the way BUT we are back! We discuss what CJ's life is worth, a recent race JB ran and if Ego really is the enemy...
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SPEAKER_03:I think you're welcome with our certain set of skills. Yes, certain set of skills. Hooray. But I am safe.
SPEAKER_01:And it worked. I'm glad that you're safe.
SPEAKER_02:I have been repatriated.
SPEAKER_01:Uh we didn't have to pay any money because that would have gone poorly, because we didn't have the money they wanted. Like the currency? Well, the money. Like we didn't have the amount of money they wanted for his life.
SPEAKER_02:How much would my life be worth?
SPEAKER_01:I think in general, you uh if you're a kidnapper, you're asking for a mil minimum who's paying.
SPEAKER_03:If I if I kidnapped you and I asked John for money to get you out, how much would I ask? Knowing John, I would I would put your life if I'm your kidnapper and John is your ransom payer, it matters who's paying. Because if if it's his whole family and his extended family, I could ask for more money as the kidnapper because they have more income and all that.
SPEAKER_01:I would say there's a base minimum of a million dollars. There always is. And then if you know the people are rich, you're gonna go higher.
SPEAKER_03:You said no really fast. Well, I wouldn't ask for a million dollars for you if he is the one paying.
SPEAKER_02:Because you know he doesn't have a million dollars liquid. Yeah, but liquid, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But I if I kidnapped you, I want that quick money, I want quick money, I'm going 50 G's to get you.
SPEAKER_02:Fuck, bro.
SPEAKER_03:What's no no, that's only because of who's paying that money. If it was like a conglomerate of people paying that money, I would go that million. Easy. You're you're totally worth that. A conglomerate of people. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Do you think you get a loan from a bank? No. Yeah. Why not? Like if you're like, hey, I need a loan. Uh I need a million dollars. Uh maybe don't tell them what it's for.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You have collateral to put like you have things to borrow with.
SPEAKER_01:And I need it in cash.
SPEAKER_02:And I need it now. And right now. Because if I don't get it now, somebody's gonna get hurt. And then they're gonna think you're threatening them. No, no, no, nothing.
SPEAKER_03:How long would it take the three of us to come up with a million dollars in cash on the table? Uh quite well.
SPEAKER_02:About a year.
SPEAKER_03:No, like you borrow. You borrow against whatever, right? But how long would it take for a million dollars to be on this table from the three of us? Three months. I think in like a couple weeks. Because we just get the we could all just borrow against our own.
SPEAKER_02:Are you kidding me? The last time I took out uh like uh some equity from my house, it's like, yeah, we need to come like do an appraisal. And then we need to do like a rectal exam and check your eyes for 2020 fishing.
SPEAKER_03:That's the wrong Hopefully you got a good rate.
SPEAKER_02:You got scammed. Yeah, we need to make sure the tires in your car have enough air pressure, and then we'll send it to our person, and then we'll approve your loan in three to nine weeks.
SPEAKER_03:So if you got a kidnapped for a million dollars and uh uh us and the boys try to get a million dollars, how long would it take him to? Here's the thing is I think if you know people, you could probably get the money. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like I know a couple people that I could get the money for. Tony.
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_01:No. I'm just saying, like, if it was like desperate where it's like I need this tomorrow or like this week, I could probably get it. Not because of me.
SPEAKER_03:You could get a million dollars within a week? Yeah. I I probably yeah, that would be tough for me, but I think you think you're right. Why are we not doing this?
SPEAKER_01:Uh well, like you can't do it all time.
SPEAKER_03:You only get one.
SPEAKER_01:You can only you can only do a one-time call to somebody for well and here's the thing if you're lever leveraging relationships to get money, you also are gonna be paying that back so you don't uh installments. Yeah well, yeah, but still, like you're gonna have to probably want to come up with a contract with that person, say, hey, I will pay you back. This is how I'm gonna pay you back. But um you don't want to burn that bridge.
SPEAKER_03:So does the government give funding if he was kidnapped in a foreign country? Like, is there is there like a pool of money they can get? Not in Canada, I'm assuming. That's not cool. They wouldn't do that.
SPEAKER_02:Let's just circle back to the fact that you thought my life was 50,000.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no, no, no. 50 G's only because I know that that he could produce that money quickly and I could get it and make it getaway.
SPEAKER_02:That's the only reason. Okay, but here's so so what about this though? So you come back, you've suddenly made friends with Elon Musk because of the void filled by his breakup with the city. Oh, you're you're in you're in the millions. That's so how many dollars?
SPEAKER_03:Uh for you, for like Elon Musk? I would say I would say just like three million. Fuck. No, no, but like I think that's reasonable. Because if yeah, I think three million. What would you do? Elon Musk is paying. What do you what do you think?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but like he's he's not gonna get friends. You're not like it's not like you're a kid, short-term friends. Yeah, right. It's not like you're a super tight, he's just gonna be like, bro, here's the deal, crazy stuff happened. I got a friend, he's getting ransomed. We need this much money.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, three million. I can't. I think that's fair. I think that's that's that's it's a compliment to you as well. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01:You know what's crazy though when you think about like three million to us, it sounds like a ton of money, but then a guy like Elon, it's literally kind of like going grocery shopping.
SPEAKER_02:Well, because sometimes you forget that a billion dollars is a thousand million dollars.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, it isn't it is not how big a billion dollars is compared to.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, when you see those graphics, I think we talked about this before. When you see those graphics of like the difference of one million versus one hundred million versus a billion, and like they did grains of guy did grains of sand. Have you seen that one? Yeah, it's it's like every grain of sand is like a hundred thousand dollars worth a hundred thousand dollars, and so he started like counting out okay, here's a million, and then he did a pile for here's this and here's this, and it's really interesting to see. How about just like a hundred dollars? I was trying to win the uh the Edmonton Oiler 5050. Oh, dude, it wasn't like nine million dollars.
SPEAKER_03:What are the odds? The odds are way better.
SPEAKER_01:Way better than the lottery.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not saying they're good, but they're they're only you can only get them in Alberta.
SPEAKER_03:On my in my office. Let's do it uh next one. Let's let's make a good chunk of the next one.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I've I've been trying already.
SPEAKER_03:They're still in the like I don't follow them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they're still in the playoffs. Game three is tonight, I'm assuming.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, let's go. We bought the package in my nursing home uh surgery ward. Uh-huh. We bought the 1100 tickets for$300 package. Yeah. I was sure this was the time.
SPEAKER_01:I'm always sure.
SPEAKER_02:I was so sure.
SPEAKER_01:Every time I buy them, I'm sure. This is it.
SPEAKER_03:This is it. Do you pick your own?
SPEAKER_01:Everyone just I quick pick everything when the uh I actually know what I do a lot of max. I pick numbers. I pick the same numbers every time, and then like for the first one, and then it it auto-picks the last two, because I think you get three picks with six bucks or something. Yeah. So I always pick, I always pick the first ones though.
SPEAKER_03:Are they like significant to you, obviously?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, really?
SPEAKER_01:Not like just Yeah, they're not random. Like I pick the same ones every time.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Yeah. But the numbers mean something. It's not like kind of.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, as much as numbers can mean something.
SPEAKER_03:Well, like your like birth date and all that kind of shit. Yeah, okay. I'd have never done that. I've always quick picked it. Yeah. I don't have I don't have time for Oh, that's so hard to how long? Okay, whoa. It takes an extra three seconds. No one's on your side here. What do you mean? It takes like three seconds.
SPEAKER_02:I sorry, I don't mean like I don't have like physical time. Like I don't have the mental time to care about picking numbers.
SPEAKER_01:But literally, if you're buying it off the app, it it is. Yeah, but why why it's not gonna change my own. It doesn't change your odds.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, you just hit the things on the app.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but if I buy it on the app, I then I just the first time it pops up, you can pick the ask to pick number quick pick. I just pick my seven or six numbers, whatever it is. Is it seven or six? I don't even know. Six plus going. There you go, seven. That'd be seven. Uh and then yeah, and then I hit go and good to go. It takes an extra.
SPEAKER_03:Right, but why what like it must be nice to have that mental freedom to do that? Yeah, I guess, right? No, seriously, why does it matter? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It does matter because you do it.
SPEAKER_01:But now but now I do it, so now I feel like if I don't do it and those numbers come up, I'll lose my mind.
SPEAKER_02:So then it does matter.
SPEAKER_01:Uh sure. Do you buy every week?
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_01:Oh no.
SPEAKER_02:No, you but you why is it that a lot of the time lottery winners look like just like I know.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, you mean the guy the guy who won four times from Lethbridge?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, it's because they bro smoking a pack of darts.
SPEAKER_03:Well, he only won like I think 2.5 total, like over the four times, but still.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, only.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, still it's yeah, yeah. He he looked like a yeah, he's old. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, no, he's old and like not healthy.
SPEAKER_03:I I couldn't judge that off that picture. He looked he looked like an old guy.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like, and this obviously isn't it can't be true, but I feel like it's the people who like consistently spend way too much money on it.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, for sure. Because you uh how many like six bucks a week, twelve bucks a week?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but even that. So if I was paying six bucks a week, it is what like whatever. But like I think these people spend like 20, 30 bucks every draw.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Like, and how many times a week is that?
SPEAKER_01:Well, it depends. A lot of max is twice a week, 649, I think, is maybe twice a week.
SPEAKER_03:We're dropping 300 on the Oilers tonight, so that's what it is.
SPEAKER_01:Well, theirs is um the way the oil is the why the Oilers once get so big is because it's not just one game. It'll go from like so the last draw I think was on Friday, so this one will probably go from Saturday till maybe two games down the road. So it's like a week thing. That's why they get so big.
SPEAKER_02:Did it not used to be every game? I thought it was everyone.
SPEAKER_01:Uh when well when when they started doing this online thing and anyone in Alberta could do it, it became Edmonton's always done this like week section. Okay whereas like the Flames would were doing only the night, and so their theirs would get to maybe a hundred thousand, but or a couple hundred thousand, but these are getting to like almost ten million.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I remember the World Juniors one when that and I was thinking hundreds of dollars.
SPEAKER_01:I know. Yeah. I made it. I couldn't stop. I know.
SPEAKER_03:It was just so gambling is so much fun. Gambling is so much fun. I have so much fun. I I I really avoid a lot of putting actual money down on things because I am very much addicted to gambling. And we did poker, we did poker at the camper a couple weeks ago with the kids, and they just had rocks. We just grabbed up fucking rocks off the ground. And I didn't, no, sorry, not poker, blackjack. So I was the blackjack dealer and I was the house and stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Teaching them to gamble everything.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and then my wife came out and she's like, What are you doing? And the kids were really into it and like betting their rocks and stuff. And every time I'd win, I'd just take the rocks, I'd throw them over my shoulder. Like, yeah, you don't get them anymore. It's like a nice little life lesson. Yeah, this is the house. This is the house that's gone forever. That's what it is. But they they enjoyed it thoroughly. And my wife came out, she's like, I don't know if I she's like, I like this because you know it's it's nice time with the kids, but at the same time, uh it would be fun.
SPEAKER_02:I'm confident if I had an abundance of money, I wouldn't have a gambling addiction. But it would be fun to go to like the table and just be like, hey, I'm gonna play uh like craps and I'm gonna spend two thousand bucks to make it.
SPEAKER_01:And you likely and you'll likely do better because you don't care.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And that's the thing is less enjoyable though, too, though. If you have like a massive amount of money, you think so? I don't think so. I think so. The reason that I enjoy gambling a little bit is because when I bet, I know there's a the consequence for losing is fairly high. If I had a bunch of money and lost that money, I wouldn't care as much.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but you play differently, and that's the thing. Yeah, you play with more money. Like if you're playing cash game at poker, there it's a lot of fun, and you have it's you could you could make some money. However, when you start looking at those poker chips as actual dollars, like that's a five dollar chip. Every time I bet, this is five dollars. And you don't play well, like you don't because you don't play.
SPEAKER_03:So it takes it away, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, or or not, it's just your view of it is different because you'll have guys there who can't afford it that have no problem just throwing their money in there and like going and get four hundred dollars out of the cash machine again. Imagine how exciting that is for them. But they're just broke, but they're broke.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but if you could say you say you're you're uber rich, you could walk into the casino with you know two thousand bucks in your pocket and be like, this is my money for the night.
SPEAKER_03:What's the m yeah, right?
SPEAKER_02:And just have a time, or you would I would play poker differently if I was sitting at a table being like, okay, bro, like I'm gonna bet big because I don't care because if I go home, this makes no actual impact on my financial situation, you know, in the hundreds or thousands of meanwhile he's on the third mortgage just trying to feed that uh feed the dragon. I want to be good at poker.
SPEAKER_03:I want to be good at gambling. What's the most amount of money you've ever placed in one like can you remember? Like the most amount you've one-handed or one bet or one spin or one blackjack hand. Probably like a hundred bucks. I I'm thinking I'm about 100 too for a blackjack hand.
SPEAKER_02:I'm pretty risk adverse. I mean, we went to Vegas. How long did we go to Vegas? August last year. I didn't gamble at all in Vegas. Like nothing. Zero. Okay. And then I was in Vegas again in April, and I set myself a$200 limit, and I lost the first hundred dollars, and then I lost the second hundred dollars quite quickly playing uh roulette, which is ton of fun. And then I said, fuck it, and I'm not taking out any more money, and I watched everybody else gamble for the next two days. Really, really envious. Oh, actually, that's why I borrowed$100 to play.
SPEAKER_03:There it is. Uh um why am I playing Backratt?
SPEAKER_02:No, what the f Pygow. And I I is that tiles?
SPEAKER_03:What is that?
SPEAKER_02:Pygal's a ton of fun. It's it's like seven card poker kind of thing.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, okay.
SPEAKER_02:But I borrowed a hundred dollars from a buddy because I didn't want to take out uh money from the ATM, and then I played Pygal for an hour, and then I gave him his hundred dollars back because that's the game of Pygal.
SPEAKER_03:That's funny. Yeah. What about you? What's the most amount? You've been one-handed, what is it?
SPEAKER_01:Uh not much. I can't even think of what it would be. Because I when I was in Vegas, the last couple well, I've only been twice. The first time I played like a cash, not a cash game. I played like a tournament. So I like those because you put your hundred bucks in at the beginning and that's all you can lose. And then uh you just play and you get drinks, and it is what it is. So I like doing that versus cash because cash is just like I said, you just play, don't play well. I don't play well because I'm worried about the actual money.
SPEAKER_03:Um do they still do the drinks? Uh, because I'm going a couple weeks. Do they do the drinks when you're like playing like slots and I don't think so?
SPEAKER_02:They don't you gotta be if you go to like Mesquite or some of those other places, they probably still do, but my experience in Vegas was not anymore. All right, yeah. That sucks. Maybe on Fremont.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not gonna go to Fremont.
SPEAKER_02:Have you been to Fremont?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Did the casino still smell like smoke and shit? Like disgusting. Yeah, I can't go there. I don't know. All the casinos are disgusting.
SPEAKER_01:Uh except the park MGM where we stayed, and it was like there's no smoking there.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but uh Matt and I stayed at the Excalibur, which is a shithole.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:The carpet from 1970 is still.
SPEAKER_03:Did you go to the you gotta go to the medieval times or whatever? Tournament of kings.
SPEAKER_01:We did not go to the house. We were we literally.
SPEAKER_03:My wife doesn't want to go to that either. I'm so upset.
SPEAKER_01:We sat and watched jujitsu for 12 hours a day.
SPEAKER_03:But that's like that's like old, that's like castle jujitsu, like tournament of kings? Yeah, sure, I guess. You know? Same thing, I guess.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. It Vegas has changed. I'm sorry, I no, I don't know if it has.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, maybe it has, but again, I think we're not the people that find value there, if I'm being honest. Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_02:When we went to Vegas, what was it, 10 years ago now?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I think it was still affordable. And sure, granted, we were in kind of different stages of life a little bit. Yeah. But this last time we I mean, I've been twice in the last year, and the cost is astronomical.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I was surprised when we booked because it was about seven, eight years ago. You know, those$500 flights, you go you there and back for the weekend, full stay, all that stuff. Now it's like two grand. Yes. You can find them.
SPEAKER_01:You just have to you just can't be picky about dates and stuff. Like you can find those cheap flights.
SPEAKER_03:It's just no, like I got I got it considered to be a cheap flight and hotel stay for two people, and it's like it's$1900. And I was asking buddies, and they're like, Yeah, that's a good deal now. I'm like, that's the good deal now? Oh, dude. And that was but we didn't stay at the Excalibur though, so uh true. That's what?
SPEAKER_02:But the Excalibur was the cheapest one we booked, I remember. Is the park MGM is really nice, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, really nice. That's behind the MGM, like it's a separate like the MGM's on the kitty the corner there. Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_01:Right across from the arena. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:We were in one of the bougier casinos. I might have been the park MGM, and one of the guys I was with was drinking vodka singles mixed with something for 40 bucks a drink. No. Yes. 40 bucks American.
SPEAKER_01:Oh.
SPEAKER_03:So we're gonna I just have no fun.
SPEAKER_01:Like, that's just I'm like, I can't. That's not fun.
SPEAKER_03:No, that's I wouldn't enjoy that. Oh. Yeah. Looks like we're gonna be buying some alcohol for the hotel room. And I heard the hotel rooms don't have fridges as well. I don't know how that depends on the hotel. Some hotels, and so I call and maybe in my reservation, I maybe I put on a diabetic and I need a fridge for my insulin. But so I'm gonna get a fridge, which is nice because it's cold drinks.
SPEAKER_01:But you think you are, they're like, so what? Yeah, that's a good point. Use warm insulin, like I care.
SPEAKER_03:They have insurance, they'll cover you. Uh they're covered if you die. No, I'm pumped, though. So it's gonna be a good experience. Are you going to any shows? Uh New Kids on the Block. Uh, that's why we're going. My wife's 40th kind of present for her, because that's her band. I've been listening to them, they're terrible. And then uh Weird Al Yankovic, I think the next day, is also playing down there doing a residency, so I'm gonna probably try and convince her to go to that. And then maybe one of the one of the Cirque du Soleil's, but yeah. Okay. Absinthe is really good. Oh, we went twice. I I can't. It's so good. Yeah, it is it is the we might go another time. It's the best. Because they change the axe every time. Like it's not like it's the same show for sure.
SPEAKER_02:I would go back to Vegas for ADCC next year. Yeah, I'd be. Sorry. I I would, but I'd rather not go to Vegas for it. I'd like to just go to ADCC somewhere else.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think it's gonna be anywhere else.
SPEAKER_02:No?
SPEAKER_01:I don't I don't have a clue. I haven't looked at it at all. I would go again, yeah, for that. I there's no and again, I I looked at um like concerts, like sometimes. So my my kid wanted to go to a concert that doesn't isn't coming anywhere near us. So there was Toronto, and I've never taken to a concert, so I'm like, oh let's look to see what's affordable here. So there's Toronto and then there was Vegas, and Vegas is cheaper. The tickets are the actual travel, like travel, travel, like just total total value. You could go, you should go to Vegas for that versus going to Toronto.
SPEAKER_02:Dude, airlines are getting ridiculous. I don't know how they're making money.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:We the flights are still full. Well, they're still full, but we are flying to Winnipeg next week, and I booked with Flair, and it's the most oppressive like financial thing where they because you book and they're like, okay, so this is your base price. Yeah, that doesn't include any luggage, any carry-ons. But don't even think about wearing shoes. You will wear flip-flops. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And if you want to wear shoes, it'll be an extra twenty dollars. Shoes are too heavy. Yes. Uh so we went to uh like I said, we went to Mexico May 1st and uh flew with the WestJet. And yeah, it was it's definitely everything just seems more crammed, everything seems more uh base, yeah. Like just yep, uh I don't know, like the little extras you used to get.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, everything they don't exist now. Well, and the baggage checking and stuff is a lot more strict.
SPEAKER_01:I've it's fine, it costs it just costs money. And then uh I really want to convince my family to figure out how to pack for a week in carry-ons, but I don't know. That's a tough one. You gotta roll. You could I and my and my son could do it, yeah. My two, my my daughter and my wife, no. But I'm like, it just would again, it's not it's not even the money thing, it's just the convenience again of sitting there waiting for those stupid things to come out. Actually, okay, uh, so we went to Mexico last uh I think it's three years, but this year, so we land so the year before we landed in Mexico, and it took like an hour to get through immigration. Like it we you get off the plane, you get in the stupid line, it took like an hour and a half. This time we landed, and like there was like 17 terminals open, and we just walked through. We got our baggage super quick, jumped out. We this time I booked a private transport from the airport to the thing, so I didn't have to sit around and wait for like a bus. Jumped on. It was like we were out of the airport in less than half an hour and on the way to the resort. It was glorious, and then coming back, same thing uh private transport from the hotel to the airport. And again, like last time, it took a long time to get through security and bag and and baggage. This time we literally walked up to The thing put our b baggage on the wing, they put the straps on it, send it away. We walk through security in three seconds, and we're sitting there like, okay, we gotta kill two hours. Like you did the check-in on the phone and stuff, and yeah, all that stuff was done, but like we still have to like basically put the baggage, um, whatever they're called on. And then yeah, and there's like this. So that last time it took probably an hour in the line to get to the West jet counter to put the bags on. This time we walked up, put them on, walked to through security. Oh, another crazy thing. Okay. I didn't know if it was a scam. So we're as we're leaving, we're in in Mexico, you always just assume you're gonna people are trying to scam you and like convince you you need to buy stuff you don't need to buy. So we're in the airport. We just dropped off our bags, we're going up to security, and these two guys stop us, and they say they are um they're like tourist tax something.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's a scam.
SPEAKER_01:Well, here's the thing is weird. They have a booth sitting in the airport, two dudes, and they're like, Yeah, hey, so like just so you know, like you need to pay this government tax, anyone who comes here. I'm like, okay, they're they're like, Did you pay it when you arrived? I'm like, I don't know. They're like, okay, well, you need to pay it before you go. I'm like, I'm looking around and I'm seeing people like walk past everywhere. Did were you forced to go to them or did they call you up? Well, no, they kind of did the whole, like, we were walking past and they hey, how's it what's how hey? And I I kind of I'm an idiot and kind of was like, Yeah, what's up? And I should have just kept walking, right? Open that door. So, but so they start like trying to like, yeah, no, so we just need your like name and start or your boarding pass number, and we'll like see if you've paid it before. And if you didn't, uh you need to pay this tax. And I'm looking around and I'm seeing people walk past and just go up and they're like, haven't stopped anybody else. And I'm like, if this is a mandatory thing, why did I get stopped and nobody else is getting stopped? And I'm like, yeah, no, I I'm like, I don't know. I'm looking at looking at my kids, and Mikey sounds like, well, I guess we gotta pay. And I'm like, Yeah, we're gonna just gonna go up there and like if we figure it out, if we get to the security and they ask us to if we've paid, we'll come back and do it. Like, I'm not, I'm not doing well, you need to, you like you, it's mandatory. Okay, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna go now by. And I basically, Mike is like, I'm like, let's go, let's go. And they're like, What? We gotta pay, we gotta pay. And I'm like, no, walk, get up the escalator.
SPEAKER_03:Were they wearing like uniforms? Yeah, they were. Oh, that's even worse. Yeah, no, so I'm like, I'm like, Oh, good for it. It was weird.
SPEAKER_01:So I'm like, well, screw it, let's go. So I'm like, just walked away from them as they kept trying to like follow me. And so we all, I'm like, let's go, kids. And we walked up the escalator went to security. I'm getting the other side, and so I'm sorry, I kind of Google it. And uh apparently there is this tax, but like they don't really enforce it, and you like if you don't pay it, nothing happens. But there actually is this thing that you're supposed to like as a tourist, you're supposed to pay, but like nobody does I don't like they their system sucks, and like if it's mandatory, when I arrive in Mexico, make me pay it at the custom place. Like as I walk through immigration.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't know this was a thing.
SPEAKER_01:I don't mean either. And so I was like, is it's not a hundred percent a scam, but kind of is.
SPEAKER_02:Kind of seems scammy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was so weird, and then I'm an idiot. And I uh as soon as I I started talking to the guy, I was like, Oh, why did I stop?
SPEAKER_02:Or at least lie to him and be like, Yeah, I paid when I got here.
SPEAKER_01:Right, but he's like, Well, let me just check. Okay, cool, all good. Yeah, let me just check. Am I being detained? I'm like, let's just go. So I'm like, and the at the end of the day, I'll just claim ignorance if I get up there. They're like, hey, we need to see that you paid. Like, oh, sorry, no, I'll go back and do it. So, but uh anyway, it was it was weird.
SPEAKER_02:Did you see the video of that douchebag from probably northern Alberta in Mexico giving it to one of the like the subway worker or something? No, no, so it's this guy and his trash girlfriend, they're both shit faced, he's wearing like his pit vipers, and just like you're I'm sure his fucking rusted out Duramax is parked at the airport. Uh so they're giving it to this subway worker in Mexico, and the girl's like grabbing this this till worker, she's grabbing her fat and being like, You fat cunt. Oh wow, oh yeah, and then the federales show up. Yes, yeah, and everybody's like, Hey bro, have a nice day in Mexico. We'll see you in seven years. Oh my god. Like, there's just things you people are don't do in foreign countries.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and then in how about just in general? For oh, for sure. For sure. But yes, definitely in foreign countries.
SPEAKER_02:He'd have to write an apology letter, and if it wasn't legible, he'd get a pass. Yeah, for sure. Right? In Mexico, I'm sure he's like pooping in a hole right now.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that happened, like that similar, and when we I was younger in Thailand, uh, my I was with my buddy, and we were sitting at this bar, and then if you don't know Thailand, there's a ton of sex tourism, and it's it's disgusting because it'll be like these uh first time I've ever heard of this. Yeah, it'll be like these older middle-aged older middle-aged dudes with with girls, or I think they're girls, who look like they're 14, 15. Um, and so like it's it's difficult when you first arrive to like to see it and not get pissed. And so anyway, we were at this bar in Thailand with my buddy, and uh he sees behind me, he sees this guy being a complete dick to uh one of the servers and like grabbing her and stuff, and he stands up to go, and there's there's like people with guns everywhere, right? Uh like security people, yeah, and police and just stand around and he stands up to go do something. I'm like, sit down, like you idiot. It's not our arena. Like, I get it, like I it sucks, but like we are not gonna do anything about this. This is the world that we're in currently. I get it, and and it's but the the sad part is like we were there for a month and you know, a weekend you stop you stop even seeing it really. Like it's there, it's still there, nothing's changed, but like it's so prevalent that you don't even really notice it anymore.
SPEAKER_02:It's sad because immediately the societal values that are universally accepted affect what you will or will not tolerate.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Right. And then again, in a and then in the environment, because of the consequences of potentially trying to interact and like stop that thing from happening, you you you can't, because then you're worried about the like as you, as a uh guy from Canada, goes and steps in and punches a German tourist or something, and then all of a sudden you get arrested and end up in a Thailand prison. Like not a good idea.
SPEAKER_02:That's why they choose those places to do those things.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. If there could be like an artist come in here and draw what we're thinking right now, we all think the pit viper guy looks the exact same. And and that his wife does too. Like this exact.
SPEAKER_01:Uh in my head, he has a mullet.
SPEAKER_03:Yep. I'm I'm close. I'm close. Not not like a nice kept bullet, but like just kind of I'm gonna do it, but not put the effort in.
SPEAKER_02:I mostly can picture his truck with his sticking out. Yeah, he's not fat though.
SPEAKER_03:Like I don't got a fat guy in my mind.
SPEAKER_02:No, his girlfriend's a little chunky, though.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, 100% she is, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Tats with pats with tattoo.
SPEAKER_03:Of course. And like just like were you tanning a lot, or is that just your skin? I don't know. Yeah, like I'm not gonna get it.
SPEAKER_02:Like you're kind of leather, bro, because you've been a frickin' floor hand on the drilling room for seven years because you have nothing else going for you.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, well, there we just lost all of our oil field listeners, so that's good.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Um, cool. Uh back to airplanes. Yeah. You know what my new non-negotiable is, though? Okay. Exit row. No, paying for the front row. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Oh. Really? Yeah. I that is a non-negotiable. Well, are you paying for the front row on the the fancy, the the two rows or three rows of fancy two-seater things? You are, hey. Very, very front. Yeah, with like the extra the extra room seats. Yeah, good for you.
SPEAKER_02:And like the extra leg room and like the flight attendants acknowledge your existence a little bit. Yeah, that's a good point. It and it adds, so we paid it was cheaper, I think it was cheaper on WestJet, but flare it was like 42 bucks a seat or something like that. I'm like, I'm paying for that.
SPEAKER_03:What does Flare Air's uh, because they are the Excalibur of Airlines? What does flare air's like front rows look like? I don't even know.
SPEAKER_02:They're actually okay. So the two flare airplanes I've been on are really nice, really clean. The front rows are accommodating. Like it, there's it's probably the same as Westjet, lots of room. And it's just they will walk down the aisle and they'll be like, Would you like a glass of water? And you'd be like, Yeah, I'd love one. They'd be like, Great, that's$350. Uh that's and legitimately that is what it is. That you will not get a single extra thing, or it's at least on WestJet, because I'm flying back from Winnipeg on WestJet. Yeah, we get you get water. We get water, I get my check bags for the same price. I had to use a bunch of WestJet points to get it to cost the same as flare, but and even then, so it's still round trip. I think we're looking at 800 bucks, which is a lot of money. Yeah. For a round trip. Yeah, for you or for both? For everyone.
SPEAKER_03:That's not bad. Okay, well that's that's not that's actually that's not bad at all. I get it's not bad. But that's a lot of money. But that's actually good if you compare your other options for traveling.
SPEAKER_02:Right, but think about the number of people, and I'm again, I'm not saying we're super special, but the number of people that don't have the ability to travel that way. Yeah, just truly due to cost. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I think, and I don't mean to get down this rabbit hole, but I think in the next four years, uh, there's gonna be some sort of it's gonna increase in price, and I think that there's gonna be some sort of thing where like you as a family can only travel X amount of times on an airplane because of carbon. Okay, let's not go down this route. I honestly think Carney's gonna throw yes, I really do. Per family unit, like just individual. There's gonna be something like that because he's every every decision that he wants to make, he wants to run it through this idea of climate change. So I I I don't I don't I don't like where you're going. I'm just saying, I think that in the next while he's that while he's our uh dictator. Well, he's our supreme leader, um, that that will happen. That it'll be okay, you've taken your flight for the year. Uh if you want to take another flight, it's gonna cost you an extra thousand dollars uh per person because we're saving the environment. I'm gonna push back. I don't think that's gonna happen. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:I I think some I'm in the middle. Some form of that will occur. Something like if not that extreme, but like some form of something like that will occur.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's gonna happen. I think the climate narrative is dead. Well, if you're because you're sane, however, I don't think that he thinks that. No, no, no. I think it's dead because money has left it. Institutional money has left green this and green that.
SPEAKER_03:And at the end of the day, so can we go back to like not paying for bags at grocery stores? Are we there yet?
SPEAKER_02:No. No, because we're getting paper bags, and I'm down with paper bags. I don't know. I like paper bags, but I use my cloth bags now.
SPEAKER_01:I but do you ever go in there and just like Yes, and I forgot them. All the time. Yes. Yeah, every time. I've used like trying to carry seven items in my arms. I've pulled the produce your hoodie pocket.
SPEAKER_03:You know, like the produce bags where you put your peas and carrots and shit in or whatever. I've taken those to the till and been like, look, this is what I got, and I've just stuffed a bunch of.
SPEAKER_02:And then you lift them up and they all break and everything falls out. I don't hate that. Maybe double bag it?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, I have. And uh yeah, I'm cheap. Anyway, yeah, no, I don't hate that.
SPEAKER_02:Anyway, sorry. I I I just don't think like I think money has left the narrative of climate change enough so that at the end of the day, politicians are still dirt bags and will just do what the money dictates. And Carney will not do that. And also, you sound like my parents when you say Mark Carney's doing this.
SPEAKER_01:Mark Carney's pretty doing that. I didn't say that.
SPEAKER_03:I just think that I just I think it was pretty restrained there, actually.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I feel like I just feel like that that could happen. I just think that that's uh on the table. I hope it doesn't, because that's pretty dystopian. I just want to point out for those listening, uh, we keep getting write errors on our card. I reformatted it, and it looks like it still records, but every once in a while it like skips one second ahead. So you might be getting some choppiness, and I don't know why.
SPEAKER_02:We're talking about what to put money into. Yeah. Hey, good news for our listeners, we have like an extra$40.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. But like it's strange that we'd have to buy a new SD card every so often.
SPEAKER_02:It is strange, although I think I noticed the other day on a Joe Rogan podcast, his podcast skipped a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:Do you do you think that just like a Spotify issue, though? Because we've listened to the same podcast skipped. It's not.
SPEAKER_02:For for us, it's not. I don't know about other ones.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because we skip you and me when we listen to the same podcast.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because we are podcaster shit.
SPEAKER_01:Whoa, yeah. Well, that was uh they're not. It's a little rough. Uh but like I don't know if any if hey, if you're a techie and listening to this, can you tell me why I can't we can't just keep using the same SD card? Because it worked really well for the first, I don't know, 10-15 episodes, and then after that it slowly starts like having these write errors where it's still recording, but it's like skipping like one second.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's almost like the memory card is degrading.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's maybe it degrades. Can we grok or Google or something if uh SD memory cards degrade after reuse or something? We haven't used it that many times.
SPEAKER_02:Well, again, it's yeah, it's frustrating. While he's grokking, just to go back to your climate change and your carbon tax. No, I think if this doesn't happen, there would be a market for people to like go in on private jets a little bit more frequently to fly places, because that's the same price. If I could find eight other like-minded people that were flying to Winnipeg that wanted to pay$400, you know what I was thinking about the other day?
SPEAKER_03:Should we buy a jet?
SPEAKER_01:I was thinking about it, yeah, for sure. Do you know also I was thinking the other day, legitimately?
SPEAKER_03:Buying a jet? Also? You're pointing at me. Is it buying a jet? Well, it's not just buying a jet. Buying a starting an airline. No, starting a buying a boat, driving a car. Oh, he's shifting.
SPEAKER_02:Shifting gears. Driving a driving an airplane. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I was gonna say this is really good for the podcast.
SPEAKER_01:I've debated I'm debating getting my pots. Go do it. Yeah, do it. I think that'd be fun to do.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't think well, you know, I think you should think about when the best time to plant a tree is for there, JB. What get it done?
SPEAKER_01:I think the cost, somebody told me the other day, they thought the cost may be about 15,000.
SPEAKER_03:Yep. Just for the licensing or for the to get licensed and like to get like two months. Can you rent a plane to fly?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there's like uh actually we were driving past the airport uh to go to some town south, and there's um a pilot, like a license uh flight training training.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Oh there's a guy, there's a guy in uh Warner, and we were driving by the other day uh for some stuff, and he is building his own plane in the Warner Airport. Okay, and I would not build a oh no, it's it it did not look safe. He he was like, Oh, I'm I'm almost flight ready, and we looked at it, and I mean they got it. Hey, you got duct tape and cardboard on that road. This was it did not look good.
SPEAKER_01:I I don't know. I I debate I I might I might try it. Do it uh what I just think that was my point. So I'll start with uh I'm not flying with you. Yeah, you are once I get why it's safe.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I've I'm just not you would. I might guess how much he's gonna charge for water. That's right. 450. Listen, I think you should. I did some flying when I was before I decided to work at the nursing home. Yeah. Uh did the old student pilot thing, and it's fun, except I got sick as fuck.
SPEAKER_01:Ah, that could be a problem.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, super nauseous, and I'm sure that gets better in your 40s.
SPEAKER_03:Do you just get sick? Do you get sick because you're in the front and you're seeing everything? Because I never get sickness on a plane itself.
SPEAKER_02:You get sick because of the small plane, and it's just a lot more affected by turbulence and because I I I've flown on private jets, no big deal. Never got sick. Helicopters, never got sick. You said it like it was a big deal.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. I've never been on a helicopter. It's it's fucking good. I haven't either. I would even pay for like a lot of things. I don't know if I want to.
SPEAKER_01:You scared me a little bit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:There's I don't know. We had an option uh when we were up in Grand Prairie a couple of years ago. Um, we had an option too, because my uncle's friend has a helicopter and flies around and stuff. He's like, hey, you want to go jump on the helicopter and go for a trip?
SPEAKER_02:I'm like, uh if I didn't have financial obligations, I would leave my job and go be a helicopter pilot. You can make money doing that. Uh for sure, but there's a point in that where you don't make money doing that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's true. No, they're they're really they're really safe. Like 0.16 uh accident rate is 0.84 per one hundred thousand flight hours.
SPEAKER_01:Tell out to Kobe.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I know, but then you compare that to a plane where the accident rate is 0.16 for 100,000 flight hours.
SPEAKER_01:Sorry, is that more? I think that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, 0.84 for 100,000 flight hours, an accident will happen.
SPEAKER_02:For sure. But here's the thing. First off, I think you should go do that because that'd be wicked. Yes, you should.
SPEAKER_03:Would you go fixed wing or would you go helicopter?
SPEAKER_01:No, fixed wing. I don't think I'd get yeah, no. Fixed wing. Because I think it's more affordable. Like if you if you got it and you wanted to buy a plane, it's not like a little tiny plane. It was not like it would be out of the realm of possibility.
SPEAKER_03:If you got this and then you know our compound eventually happened and then the world falls apart, you would be such a commodity having a license.
SPEAKER_01:I need to be an asset.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe oh my god, you'd be the mayor. Like that would be the best.
SPEAKER_02:Go do it in like 2027 and I'll come do it with you. Because I always I'm always unhappy that I left that like thread unfinished. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so here's the question why 2027? Yeah. Because I don't have time this year or next year.
SPEAKER_01:Why do you think you're gonna have time in 2027? Yeah, why is that gonna be different, you loser? Make it worse. I can plan for it. No, now you won't be able to do it. The kid's gonna be more active, you're gonna be doing 37. Number two might be along the way, who knows? And then all of a sudden you're not doing anything. Yeah, you're not gonna be.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, maybe not, but you should go do it. That's super cool. I and I think just to go back to your helicopter stats, most accidents are attributed to human air.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, actually, 50% stem from pilot air for helicopters. Uh yeah. Well, 10 to 15% for weather.
SPEAKER_01:The problem with helicopters, I think, is like so if you got your license, you wanted to buy a helicopter, like I think the maintenance on those things is uh obviously a lot more than a plane, right?
SPEAKER_02:Probably, but planes are pretty maintenance intensive. But if you went, so say you spent$15,000 on your private pilot's license. Yeah. PPL.
SPEAKER_01:PPL.
SPEAKER_02:You could then buy an airplane for$40,000 to$70,000 for like a pretty like base level like Honda Civic airplane.
SPEAKER_01:I'm good with that.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I like watching these high-end airplane salesmen, like the luxury airplane salesmen on like Instagram and TikTok and stuff. They do their little oh, it's amazing.
SPEAKER_01:So I like the idea of that because then like instead of like I'm always annoyed driving like three hours north to go to like my uh my mother-in-law's house, where it's like, hey, let's just jump in the plane and then like take off. Like maybe I'll park it at some some small airport around the city here, and then just take that plane, jump over, flip over there, park out there. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:One of our like one of the previous guys I used to work with in the nursing home did that, and it was it was so cool. It's so much freedom. We'd go to do something in another town, and he'd be like, Yeah, I'll just fly there. And he'd he'd literally we'd pick him up at the airport of the small town or like whatever. It's so cool.
SPEAKER_01:Can you tow a butt a motorcycle behind a plane? Just like flying through the air. Sweet.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, totally. You should can totally do that.
SPEAKER_01:Or can you get a plane? I think a helicopter would be a better fit. Can you get a plane where like I mean uh little plane where you can like a flat deck? Yeah, yeah, a flat deck plane where you can park your your vehicle on so that when you land, you just park your back your vehicle off. The military has them. Yeah, yeah. Whatever.
SPEAKER_02:You know, you know what you should do? So go look up flyicon.com. Fly icon. And go get an icon, uh, which is an amphibious plane that has like folding wings that you can tow behind your vehicle. Oh, that sounds cool. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Really? Yeah. Oh yeah. That would be the best prepping for apocalypse plane, I think. Apocalypse. Apocalypse. Uh I will look at this later, fly icon. Oh, speaking of what speaking of which 28 years later. Uh yeah, it's coming out in two days.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, there's so many. I've been wanting to go to a frickin' movie for a long time at the theater, and nobody wants to go with me, so I haven't gone.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you can't. Is it weird if I go myself? You should ask your friends. I I have. When is the last time you have asked us to go to a movie? He will never come with me. He does ask. Well, he's gonna be free in 2027. Don't worry. Okay, 2027.
SPEAKER_01:So, like right now, there's like that Sinners I wanted to go watch. That's already almost gonna come out in Prime soon, so I'll just wait now.
SPEAKER_03:Do you know that it's a monster movie?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's vampire.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't know that until yesterday.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. Uh, there is the new Marvel, I know. It's gonna be stupid, but I have to watch it. Uh there is the new Last Mission Impossible.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:I want to go see that. Yeah. Uh there's some oh the the There's actually good movies, though. The new Karate Kid.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I'd see that. The Legends.
SPEAKER_01:I would pick my kids to that. 100%. Uh and there's something else. Oh, Superman's coming out soon.
SPEAKER_03:And I am just, oh, James Gunn, man. I don't know. I've been we're watching, we re-watching Peacemaker with my wife now. Oh yeah. It's the way he does the move, the superhero movies is so good. It's just so real. I'm I'm excited. This is gonna be a good year for movies. I don't know. And then and CJ won't see any of them. So he won't. I will watch them when they come out on the internet. No, you won't. No, you won't. The internet, they're up, they're probably out on the internet.
SPEAKER_02:No, like the TV, like like the Netflix thing.
SPEAKER_03:You can get like all the I like how you can get all the movies now for like it sucks, but like$25, you can rent them to watch at your house. Like spinners you can rent.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Which is like you sound expensive, but you're like, well, that's like probably half the price of going to the theater. And my popcorn costs 20 cents as opposed to$50. Probably less than half the price. Because I think a ticket's about 10 bucks these days. So and then yeah, popcorn just twenty three dollars of thirty dollars with the combo.
SPEAKER_03:And when I got a pee and my kids got to pee twenty times for the movie, I can just pause it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, if I take my kids, uh it's gonna like I I've got scene plus, so I it's less.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, hey, I do too. Yeah, because it's awesome. You get a free ticket every month, it's amazing.
SPEAKER_01:I got so it's we one free ticket, yeah. get 30 yeah so for 999 you get uh a ticket uh one free ticket every month plus uh like twenty percent off concession a whole bunch of stuff so like if you go to one and and it carries over so you don't have to if you don't go to that month you sell free tickets sitting there so you have like more than more than one free ticket if it's month two yeah yeah I forgot to cancel it because and then I went into the wine app thing I'm like what is this nine ninety nine every month and I look back I had like 13 free tickets stacked up on my Cineplex plus app. Oh there you go because I forgot for a whole year it costs it's cheaper than just have one ticket so it's it's worth it just getting it if you go at all.
SPEAKER_02:Why don't you just both of you because you guys like these things is turn your house like build a movie theater.
SPEAKER_01:Uh it's not the same uh yeah it's not the same it it 100% is what what so like what what part is not the same where you have to sit beside like gross other things you don't have first of all you don't because they're never full unless you're going to an opening night of some crazy weekend never it's never full anymore people aren't going so I don't know how they're still open but uh that's so for you don't have to like you literally and and now that you book seats like what's the allure of I just like the gigantic screen uh you're out of the house the the sound is crazy loud like the popcorn is the popcorn's amazing it's amazing compared to home popcorn and the bag the crappy pop like the whole the the experience the experience okay so you but is that nostalgia for you or your kids it is a hundred percent no our kids love going to a movie yeah same my but my kids like going yeah but maybe it's because I've taken them since they're little so they so the next generation of kids probably won't have to let me ask you this then at what if you size this down so how how big is the how big does the screen have to be for you still to get the same experience so say it was a room with 25 seats slightly smaller screen.
SPEAKER_03:I've had a a friend out in Raymond who had like a a theater room popcorn machine candy like a whole bar kind of thing on the side of the room and we went as our family went and we went and watched a movie with their family there it just it didn't and it was the it was probably the closer you can get to a theater experience in somebody's house.
SPEAKER_02:Right but say so say it's not the was not the same totally yeah not somebody's house you have somebody working there it's a business okay but it's like 25 seats how like maybe the screen is the size of this wall.
SPEAKER_03:Oh you're talking about like a private rental yeah like how how big does that have to be for you to get that experience but then scaled that my family and we're gonna do it again when we're done this one book we're reading um at the movie mill just just book them book the theater for the family that's it oh and uh it was weird so you need other people there that you don't know it was a different experience like it it is it's it it's a different experience when you're experiencing it with a bunch of other people I think yeah it's weird it is weird maybe it's the idea of like being in crowd like a crowd or being in a group of people enjoying something together I I don't know what it is.
SPEAKER_01:Like I agree if it's too full it's like kind of annoying but I've also been to opening nights where you cannot find a seat of theaters that were kind of like fun. Like the I remember I remember 1999 I think going to the Matrix and literally there's no seats except for the front row where we had to sit and like with our necks crammed up and it was chaos it was like it was so fun because it's just like this everyone's there like or even like opening of Star Wars back in the day like episode one, two and three when they came out it was like it was just people were lining up outside all dressed up like a bunch of nerds and it was just something about the like the the event of it. It's like a sporting event I think like I went I went to it was in uh Philadelphia I went to John Wickfor opening in there in an inner city theater with somebody else from the nursing home like a very uh I'm sorry like there was a lot of there was a lot of black people the nursing home the nursing hole I got my voice over there there was a lot of black people in the theater we go in there it was no just this is why it was fun it was the best theater experience I've ever had we sat down people were screaming like yelling clapping laughing like just standing up and doing the just at certain scenes and it was such a good experience it was the most like a sporting event I've ever been to at a movie theater I could see that being a lot of fun yeah it was a blast so people still do that like people line up for movies nah that's the thing is I don't think so I don't think so uh like just like when when I was a like uh new video game release people would go line up like of the night like I I've been to several uh when I was younger openings of like uh this video game's coming out tonight at midnight Call of Duty or something or the new Xbox is being released tonight at midnight and people line up for four hours outside before midnight and waiting to go get their new Xbox and again it's just about like it's just weird but it's about it's a fun event. It's like a tribal thing. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Is so when they release a movie though can you also immediately then get it on like Netflix or Amazon if you sell for$25?
SPEAKER_01:And yeah some of them you can buy almost immediately from like iTunes for like 30 bucks. That reminded me John McFar the new John Wick uh ballerina that's another one I want to see because I have she she is so uh it's a spin-off of the John Wick series uh what the girl with I can't remember Anna de Arms oh uh they're doing a move they made her own movie called the Ballerina because she she's also a hitman I believe yeah but she she grew up in the same culture in the same tribe or whatever it uh it'll be good I hope it'll be good I think it will be um big fan of her big fan of the John Wick series but I don't know how long they're gonna last though like do you think movie theaters are gonna be as prevalent so it's interesting what's interesting is in our town they haven't really done much to upgrade it no is from my what I've seen but like you go to Calgary and they have like they're they're they're they're building ja they're still building new ones and they are gigantic they have literal uh recliners that are probably like three feet wide and they recline fully recline and there's enough space between each row where like your feet can be fully out and people can walk past you still that's the whole movie theater yeah yeah the whole thing they have like the price for a little more yeah oh yeah more they have um fully like you can get meals there you can get uh beer delivered to you during the movie you can get like it's essentially like this whole different thing but yeah I think tickets might be like 20 bucks I don't I don't know I don't remember how much they are but they're uh so I think are we going towards what he's talking about?
SPEAKER_03:Do you think like I don't think so I don't think they'd be successful.
SPEAKER_01:It it seems like it would be a lot the overhead would be a lot because the again the private I think and I think the private part of it is maybe the part that like it's weird like because people think they want to be by themselves with their people watching a movie but I think there is something about going and maybe maybe there's a fight in the crowd I don't know you're top you're totally right people say they want to be by themselves but at the end of the day or maybe or maybe there's an active shooter who who knows that that thought always crosses literally every single time I sit down in a theater I look at okay if I have and I usually I like sitting the back which is a problem if there's a if there's a spot. But I'm like okay if I have to get out of here how do how am I doing it or how am I getting down to that person to deal with them? And so I've like thought about okay I'm I'm gonna like I'm gonna take the hit I'm gonna jump that that uh stairway rail I'm gonna jump that thing do it do a roll at the bottom come around back behind him. So I'm gonna go down the aisle to the stairway leap over carefully it's gonna look so good too it's gonna be so good. Pull my knife out sneak up behind the guy slit his throat.
SPEAKER_03:So we we went to uh or stab him in the neck was it was it Batman remember the Batman that had the Joker yeah so we went was it the Joker? It was the one with the j with Keith Ledge I went in it was in Texas when that came out and me and this uh Danny from the nursing home went to that movie the day after the shooting happened in like another state obviously but I have never been so like that. I've never I sat down and I'm like okay exits are here just playing it in my mind and I'm like this is weird it's a fucking movie.
SPEAKER_01:Dude I I don't think I've been to a movie where I don't think about that really at first. Like I sit down I look around okay who's around me who could be appropriate would you throw popcorn in the face of the shooter to distract I think I think uh your dr I think your drink in that popcorn I think your drink would be better your drink's a better thing I would open the the package of dill pickle seasoning that I always have it just right in the face like sand blow it no you put it in your in your palm and you blow it in their face no I I like I it is what it is I sit down I look around who's around me okay cool uh and usually I have my kids with me so I'm like okay what am I gonna do with them I'm gonna tell them to get down I'm gonna go over there I'm gonna do this thing and then I'm like okay cool and I don't think about it again.
SPEAKER_03:There are other social events that I do that plan is that the only place is it everywhere? Not everywhere but I do the same.
SPEAKER_01:Not everywhere but a lot of places. Yeah I do too yeah it's good to have a plan.
SPEAKER_03:Yes yeah versus just sitting there being like nothing will ever a plan and a through a two and a half inch blade in my pocket. A two and a half inch folding knife I know that requires me to be within arm's reach of buddy Can you imagine that if we had if we had like open carry like not open carry, even concealed carry I feel a lot better dealing with that problem. I would too but then so would other people in the theater who probably wouldn't be as good at it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah you know what I mean then there could be I don't think so man I don't think I I think if we even had that ability the most people would not do it.
SPEAKER_03:I think yeah you're right if they open it up today yeah you're right most people wouldn't do it.
SPEAKER_02:I think Pit Viper guy from that video would though no I think so here's why I think I think that most people oh here I don't okay I think that most people would not be comfortable opposing force with force as the first reaction. Right. Yeah it would be a yeah you're right yeah yeah I think that there's this this high duck get away from the ouchie things.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah well and that's gonna be and that and that's that's human just human reaction.
SPEAKER_02:100% but you like there's at least like a like a like an aspect of like hey you have this trained response to like I need to like do the ouchy things back.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah yeah um I tend to carry my sorry I tend to carry my knife with me when I run and I don't know why because I'm like what if I can see a cougar for sure so the cougar's in the coolies that freak me out but then I just I struggle always finding a spot to put it doesn't like scrape at me.
SPEAKER_03:Yesterday I did 20 why wouldn't you just carry it in your hand like open.
SPEAKER_01:Because that yeah yeah open there's a dude running through the coolies with an open knife I have a K-bar you can borrow. Yeah and then I trip and fall down a thing and stab myself in the chest.
SPEAKER_03:What do you fanny it or what do you do?
SPEAKER_01:Uh so yesterday I did that coolie cactus crawl 20 mile congratulations and thank you uh I'm sore and uh I had it in my like I had a I wore a water um backpack because like it was a lot it was a long and I just don't want to run out of water like last year where we almost died anymore so I said I'm just gonna wear this thing from now on when I do long distances. Anyway I had it in like the just kind of in the the backpack strap so I could is it accessible. But then if I both by both hands? Oh yeah both hands. Nice uh but if I don't have that then I usually just have it in my waistband but then it usually scrapes a little bit um I need to solve uh muscle cramping problem and I feel like I took a ton of salt yesterday like I feel like I was hydrated but the last five miles my quads and my hamstrings were just like seizing up like I hate you and so every time I like walk uh walk up these steep hills my I was just like fighting like this cramp in both of my quads.
SPEAKER_03:Would you would you do you take like this I don't talk about hydrogen a lot but do you take the hydrogen pills before uh so I do or do you think not like overdosing on them before would help the circulation I don't have a clue if that would help.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe I wouldn't make it worse probably no true but I took like two salt I took two um electrolyte like pills so they have like uh sodium magnesium a whole bunch of stuff in them uh in the morning took one before the race so I feel like I had tons of electrolytes I was eat I was drinking water throughout the whole thing I I felt like I did the right things but the last five miles was like a struggle just to keep myself moving and then the funny thing is when I was running I could feel it but I was like okay just keep going when I slowed a couple times I like kind of started to walk and when I started walking it just seized up even more so I'm like oh I can't get back to running but I don't know I gotta solve that before September I gotta figure it out. What electrolyte pills are you taking uh ones I got from runner soul I can't remember the exact like the noon or something like that or no these are literal like I I don't know what they are they're in a they're like pills like they're not like oh they're not like tablets which and I didn't put any tablets in my water this time maybe that's what it was.
SPEAKER_02:You should look I think that there might be an argument that you still didn't have enough salt. Could be because you have you had you've had element before yeah that I think you should try that. Yeah I should get some of those and it's the problem is it's super cost prohibitive to have every day.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah true but if you throw it in like on your running days.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah but I think when I can when I when I choose to spend the money on it and I drink first thing in the morning I have that like that thousand milligrams of salt right I notice a noticeable difference in my brain.
SPEAKER_01:Interesting yeah I should get them I you can get them on like Amazon can't you yeah you can but it's 60 bucks for 30 days that's not terrible.
SPEAKER_02:Well it's a lot if you want to do that so you want to do that every day for a year that's like it's almost 700. No that's over 700. Just don't think about the year just think about the I know but that's a lot of money just to buy salt like that's a pretty luxury item at that point.
SPEAKER_01:I guess yeah I don't know anyway it was a good it was a good race I finished it faster than I thought I was hoping for between four and five hours I finished it in 355 so that's 30 miles 20 miles. 20 miles um our friend Aaron uh she she forgot about the race until the day before and then she showed up and then she's like well I'm gonna I haven't run more than seven miles in a long time I think I'm gonna suffer and she went hard she so we we started together she's she's ridiculous. We started together she was behind me uh we just kind of stayed together and I could hear her behind me though I'm like like just suffering like breathing so hard and I was like fairly relaxed like I feel like my heart rate was probably like I was I was just pushing a little bit from my leg perspective but like not like breathing super hard but I could hear her behind me breathing crazy hard but that doesn't like stop her. She like so then at a certain point she we came up to a path she went before me and then after that she just slowly kept pulling away pulling away pulling away and uh and then I couldn't see anymore. So she she finished uh I think 14 minutes before me um and uh but like just just uh a machine like I she just I can red line the whole time and just keep going. Yeah she's she well she's a good athlete because when you have so many years of just consistent uh base of cardio none of us will ever be able to touch that yeah it's it's crazy to maybe maybe maybe Tony yeah right I think but that's the same consistent base of cardio I think if he had run this he would he could have uh been probably faster than that like he's been running hard that's why I struggle a lot to be a even like passable long distance runner because I don't have that base of cardio so every time I have to work to get there.
SPEAKER_02:I feel the same way.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah and then it falls off yeah kind of like Jason's plan to run this 50k so I I went uh I raw dogged it fell apart I raw dogged it with no headphones or anything yeah yeah and uh just thinking the whole time and there's I had some weird thoughts throughout the process like um first of all I was like why am I doing this again and then I'm like there's a couple times where it was almost like an out of body experience when I'm where I'm running and I couldn't can't even explain it. And I was like think in the process of like of like having this feeling I was like trying to figure out how do I explain this and it was like it was almost like I was not in my body and my left and my right were mixed up like I thought my left hand my left side was my right side my right side was my left side and like my my feet were moving my feet and I was running but I was like but it just I felt like I I felt odd. I felt like I wasn't in my body. It was weird. And it happened a couple times during this race and I was like what is going on? Like why do I what's gonna happen I was like what is this feeling? And it wasn't I wasn't like you I it was fine like I just but it was a weird thing and I was I don't know it's like a w was were you in like a flow state at the time? Maybe like I just I was I was I was running I was still going like I I'm actually quite happy with my time on it like to be honest I I I did not know think I was going to finish it under four like there's a ton of elevation I think it was almost 2500 feet of elevation throughout that race uh tons of ups and downs ups and downs and um so I was quite I'm quite happy with my time but like I and I and I I probably could have pushed harder like I think in general I could always push harder running because I suck at pushing hard long distance but um so there's a couple people like that there's this guy uh he might ever come on come on the podcast eventually tie tie fair like your bro I don't know very much the guy from the the shoes uh Brandon he he so no he's he's uh he was running um helping organize the thing but uh Ty is uh a guy who uh nursing home he does uh nursing home adjacent does a whole thing yeah yeah yeah uh he ran it in three hours and one minute the guy who won it was two hours forty five minutes yeah uh for 20 miles crazy it's crazy uh I I I like that you raw dogged it without headphones that's how I've done my yeah uh races yeah and I just like the time in my head it was yeah it was interesting like it's interesting the things you think about are and then like looking back on it it's almost like where did that time go? Like you know what I mean like if I'm in the moment it feels like this is suffering and this is hard. And then you go through the whole like ah this is fine I'm okay it's just pain you know all the things but like now I look back on it and it's almost like trying to remember the things you thought about is is is hard like it's it's gone. Like you it's kind of in you like you said you're in the moment. Oh totally it's just thoughts on clouds. Yeah and like that's it that's the weird thing about thoughts and we've talked about this before but like what what are they and where do they come from it's like you don't choose a lot of the times we're not choosing especially in those moments I wasn't choosing to think about anything but things come into your head and they go away and they come back into your head and they go away and you're like what what is that what is that and I mean that happens happens in general you probably just notice it more when you're running you know what I don't like when I raw dog it running yeah is I don't know if you do this but there'd be times when you run and I'd be like it just started to get into this like repetitive counting.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I I hate it I don't do that. Yeah because you just be running be like one two three four one two three four and like but for like like a long period of time or like you start to just like get like bits of like a song that just are on like repeat. Oh dude it drives me bananas and you can't stop I can't stop it. That's funny. Oh I hate it so much so I don't know if I'd have done that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah and I I think I don't know why that happens yeah I'm trying to think about what I was thinking about the whole time because I mean that's four almost four hours of just sitting and thinking and like the initial the initial beginning of the race it was like chaos right because there's a whole there's I think there's like three four hundred people so just trying to get it get a space to get moving. So we went pretty hard the first bit just to get ahead and just to get out all by ourselves. So Tran and I were by ours they're kind of running together and then we uh and then at a certain point I just I was then I was by myself other than like every once in a while I'd pass somebody or somebody passed me but it was just then it was just like chilling.
SPEAKER_02:It's funny talking about thoughts so I did an impromptu grappling competition yesterday. Yeah and ton of fun just dudes from the gym that we know right like it was like an in-house thing yeah uh I had a great guys like it was super fun and they're all really good athletes but uh five minutes it's the last match of the competition and it's me from my team versus the guy from the other team. Yeah and if he wins we lose if I win they lose and if we draw well then the whole thing is a draw. Right. So I'm like I can't fucking lose this and he's a good he's a good he's a purple belt he's a good grappler. Kind of like some ups and downs for me like we did good but the last the last probably 45 seconds um he gets a position on me. He's fighting for an arm bar um and like the the thing is it's so funny because like we will grapple together just in open mat. Yeah and you're just kind of like heart rates it's high but like you're right 85% competition. Right. It's the same people but we're like competing now it's like 98% right that last 45 seconds I was I swear to God if I'd been wearing a heart rate monitor my heart rate was over 200 because we 3000. Oh dude because we've been stand up wrestling for probably like three minutes of that round uh I was so tired I was so gassed and just the thoughts in my head I was thinking like okay like I'm holding this S grip trying to stop the arm bar and I'm like K 15 seconds 10 seconds I'm like I I'm going to die. I don't have I'm literally going to die um And just counting down my head, I was like, man, this is probably what a fight for like quote unquote a fight for your life feels like is like or like waiting for some friends to show up. Right. Be like, oof, I just need to hold on. Just gotta survive. I just need to like hold on. Uh it was interesting. I I I don't get to experience that very often. So did was it a draw? It was. Who was it? You're fighting? Uh you know Tom? Yeah. Not Tom O'Connor. Okay. Uh different Tom from PFA? Probably. Yeah, great, like wicked grumble. Yeah. Uh big dude, super strong. Crazy. Fun. Yeah, it was it was super fun. It's just it's nice to put yourself in some mental deep water. Yeah. Uh like the running or that, like that. Like it's because you just kind of get to test that little bit of like, okay, like I can go to this really dark place that I don't get to go to super often.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, for sure. Well, the one thing doing that 20 mile made me real like I again, it's like, okay, I'm doing a hundred miles in September. You're gonna be you're gonna be in September. I finished I finished that 20 and I was like, I was I mean, here's the thing. If I if we we will not be going that speed because if we and if we I mean if we could, awesome. Because if I did that speed, we're gonna be done 100 miles in 20 hours, which is the same we did 100k in last year. So we're obviously gonna go slower than that, but yeah, most likely. Well, it has to be under 33 technically to to pass it, but I want to be under 30. Um but that being said, it's like so if I so I'll I so yeah, I'll have some like it'll be slower, um, but then I'm like I hit that 20 miles and I was like, okay, I got some work to do still. Like we've run a ton, like I've run more this year already, and so is so has Tony. We've run more this and he's run way more than me, uh, more this year than we did all of last year.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, as as you should.
SPEAKER_01:Completely, but like like it we're gonna be like double, if not more, this my kilometers this year than last year. Um and like so uh we're doing the work, but it's like I need to start doing the this like this 20 mile thing. Maybe that's gonna have to be almost a week of like a weekly um weekend thing or at least bi-weekly.
SPEAKER_03:That's all that's sounds.
SPEAKER_01:Just because like that, because like that was like like I'm blown up a bit today. Like my I'm pretty sore, and so like I just need to, and like that's I had to have to do that five times.
SPEAKER_02:Hey Jason, you know what we're not doing every weekend? Yeah, I know. Uh running 20 miles. No, I can't.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I did third, we did 13 something last week. So I mean, as long as I think as long as we're doing 10 between 10 and 20 miles on the like one at one time on the weekend, just to get that volume in, I think that'll be beneficial between now and September. So that's the goal. Have you officially bowed out?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I did. There's no, I just I can't.
SPEAKER_01:Did you did you do it? Because you need to sold it.
SPEAKER_03:No, I I did. I I got the credit for next year talking to the guy um who's look working on my knee or whatever. He's like, Yeah, he's like that you can solve this problem with flexibility. So uh we'll work on that. Well, that's and that's how many times you stretch. Like, are you stretching after something like that?
SPEAKER_01:Uh I did not. Ah, bro. Uh so the problem was so like we finished- I finished the race, my whole family was there. Uh, we ended up chatting for a bit, uh, hung out at the kind of end of the race, and then um the nursing home called and uh had to go to work for several hours, and then so I had no time on the way home. On the way home, yeah, yeah, uh, because I was dying of starvation, and then I sat in the hot tub. Do you do full meal or did you just do a burger? I got the double matzah burger, which was fries and a root beer. Nice. Dye root beer or root beer heavy? Just root beer, just straight all in. I burnt like 4,000 calories on that run. I figured I could survive.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you kind of earned it.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, and so then I got home and I sat in the hot tub, which felt amazing. I did not stretch, and I probably will do some stretching today. I would debated trying to do a 5k today just to kind of loosen up and we'll get some tired legs, as Truett Haynes would say, because I've been watching a lot of Truett Haynes lately. Uh you cheating on John Bear? Uh I know. I just like both of them. Uh so he likes he's crazy. He's got the poster in his room. Yeah. Had no posters. Um truitt, just in a pair of jeans, nothing else. It's on the ceiling. Truett Haynes has been is a beast, but he has he like always talks about like running on tired legs. So he he'll do something stupid, like a I don't know, crazy amount of volume, and the next day he'll make himself go do another 10k just to make sure he's getting some tired legs.
SPEAKER_02:So go run then, bro. I will later.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like what are you waiting for? Uh we're doing this currently.
SPEAKER_03:On a normal, like on a normal lift day. Let's say you work out for an hour and a bit, how much of that time are you allocating to stretching?
SPEAKER_01:Zero.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, okay, good. That's one percent.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, okay, good. All right. Well, yeah, I guess between between my reps I'm doing this. Yeah, no, that doesn't count.
SPEAKER_03:The arm circles does not count. Or the the little fly chest thing we all do. It doesn't count.
SPEAKER_02:I was talking to my massage lady the other day. I would legitimately pay somebody to come to my house and stretch. Like stretch you? Stretch me. Yeah, and do like, well, not active release, but that PNF or whatever that they push on your shit and no, like literally just be like, Hey, like I'm gonna like like get in the position where I'm gonna push on your leg, or like I would, and if they came to your house, I'd be like, okay, I've got to stretch for just be like, hey, I'm coming over for 15 minutes, we're gonna do this, and I'm leaving, and you're gonna pay me.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, the the the not the physically, the active release, whatever chiropractor guy who sees a lot of guys in their nursing home, he's like, you guys, he's he said that you because my issue is the knee and the stretching and the IT band stuff. He's like, You guys are terrible for yourselves. I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, nobody from your place stretches.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but that's not our place. That's nobody from the streets. I think that's stretching in general, right? Unless you have an Instagram page about how cool stretching is, you don't stretch.
SPEAKER_03:But then I started going down a rabbit hole, like you watch as Jumumufu or something like that.
SPEAKER_02:I don't like how you said that.
SPEAKER_03:Well, what's his name? Juju Mufu. Juju Mufu, right? I'm sorry, so sorry, Juju Moofu. Um his flexibility and athleticism is just it is ridiculous. Have you seen the little guy that he little so I would with the glass and the long hair?
SPEAKER_02:Like, yeah, like super nerdy, super starchy. I I watch his YouTube a lot. And I like it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. He he is what I would like to be, and I don't do anything to make myself that way.
SPEAKER_02:I found this guy. I should actually share it with you. I found this guy on Instagram, uh, another because there's there's like if you're again, if you're a physiotherapist, you probably have an Instagram page. Some are good, some are bad. His is really good. He had this thing talking about shoulder mobility, and he's like, hey, one of the best ways to just open your shoulders up before workout and get this mobility is just hang like dead hang. Oh, I do that every day. So I tried it. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna dead hang. So I did like three like one-minute dead hangs before doing some like shoulder stuff, legitimately black and white. Like it was like, holy shit, my shoulders work. Like it was the and it was just the simplest, weirdest thing where versus doing like the with your fucking band.
SPEAKER_03:The weird thing is like when you dead hang, um at the gym, I go to the dead hang, my feet, my toes are barely touching the ground. But after about a minute, I am fully flat footed. It's crazy, right? It's I don't know. Yeah, that and like swimming are the two things he says would be.
SPEAKER_01:I just like to point out though, if you're fully flat footed, you're no longer dead hanging.
SPEAKER_03:Well, no, you know what I mean, but you you slowly your body like I don't know if you get taller or if you're swimming along that.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe his feet are flat, but not on the ground. Okay, I'm just saying though, if feet are on the ground, you're not hanging.
SPEAKER_03:No, I'm just standing at that point.
SPEAKER_01:Like I'm just standing.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. Sometimes when you dead dead hang, do you picture yourself hanging on the edge of a like a bridge?
SPEAKER_01:Like fighting life. Never on the edge of a building. Yeah. Do you what? Yeah. Okay, but now it now, okay, think about dead hanging.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna do it from now on. Yeah, you're gonna be.
SPEAKER_01:And all the movies where the dude's hanging with one hand, holding some chick up by the other hand, could you do it and then lift her up to the top. You'd have to be the strongest person.
SPEAKER_03:I would like to simulate that with my wife. Like actually dead hang and then have her grab my hand, just just to see how long I can hold her.
SPEAKER_02:Zero seconds. You could have a 25-pound plate with a grip.
SPEAKER_03:With a bar grip, though, not like an edge of a clip, but the actual weight of it.
SPEAKER_01:I still think zero seconds. She gets she put it.
SPEAKER_03:I bet I could hold her for 10.
SPEAKER_01:No, you are zero seconds. You are insane.
SPEAKER_03:Ten seconds are just locking everything up. Zero.
SPEAKER_01:No, zero seconds. How can we how can we? Because your grip strength is not that good.
SPEAKER_03:We can do it at the university. I'm not saying just you climbing wall.
SPEAKER_01:Nobody. Nobody. You cannot hold your wife for 10. I know. No, no. Okay, I I I think maybe one second. I could put it. I won't even give you that. Okay. There's zero. You're not catching her.
SPEAKER_03:We're starting you in that lockdown.
SPEAKER_01:You're starting with locked out. I don't think you last. Uh maybe no, I don't think you get a second.
SPEAKER_03:Nope. I think we need to set this up the three years need to get out there with our wives and find out how long we can hold them.
SPEAKER_02:Sure. You're gonna find out that you can do it for no time at all. Yeah, I agree. There's no you would have to. I think we better put some unit.
SPEAKER_01:You're not uh you're not a rock climber. If you were a rock climber, I'd give you a couple seconds.
SPEAKER_03:But I'm talking about your grip strength, like their grip strength's crazy. I will set this up. I'm talking a bar, a bar grip with one hand.
SPEAKER_01:On a video.
SPEAKER_03:Right? And no, no, all three of us are doing this. A bar grip with one hand and a full lockout, and you start with no like no momentum, they're not falling. You're just locked out.
SPEAKER_01:But let's just back up. What if they're holding away? Go to the gym and just one arm hang. How long can you do it?
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna find out tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, like 10 seconds. Exactly. And that's no weight on you. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_02:I'm so confident in my abilities here. I don't know why. Like you could land the plane. I think I think you couldn't even do that holding a 25-pound plate.
SPEAKER_03:I will I'll do a 25-pound, I think you could.
SPEAKER_02:I think you could.
SPEAKER_03:I'll do a 45. I'll do a one arm with a 45 and two pounds.
SPEAKER_02:No! What the f- Have you even held a 45-pound plate before?
SPEAKER_03:Well, I'm holding with one hand?
SPEAKER_02:No, just in general.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, I have held a 45-pound plate.
SPEAKER_02:For how long?
SPEAKER_03:The amount of time it takes to the bar to move it from the back to the bar with two hands and that little swing you do to get it up to that uh that level.
SPEAKER_02:And sorry, I'm not talking the skinny like like the red one. I'm talking the thicky thick.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, with the big play. Okay, okay, but like grip-wise, like I think like you do the old wrist grip. Like you're not grabbing hands. She grabs your wrist, you grab her wrist. For sure. You're still not. I'm saying that. Like I completely.
SPEAKER_03:I am blown away that you don't think you could.
SPEAKER_01:I I don't think I could. Because I I know that my ability to one arm hangs.
SPEAKER_03:You're really you're really calling your wife heavy here.
SPEAKER_01:No, I'm saying I one arm hanging cannot hold very long. So add any sort of weight to that, it's not happening.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, I'll do it one arm. We'll revisit this later.
SPEAKER_01:Where are we gonna do this? Well, Nick, let's show you the gym.
SPEAKER_03:University climbing wall has two cable systems.
SPEAKER_01:Tomorrow morning at the gym, go one arm hang, grab a 45-pound plate, and see if you can do it.
SPEAKER_03:All right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you don't even need another person. No, you don't. But you gotta grab the thicky thick. No, because you can I don't care how you hold it. You can scoop the middle hole with two fingers if you want. Like it's you can hold it with the way your fingers were there.
SPEAKER_03:Why'd you pick those two fingers?
SPEAKER_01:I feel like they'd be split. Why don't you just bite a spider Spider-Man helped out here? Yeah, I feel like it's better.
SPEAKER_03:The fingers gotta be connected to each other.
SPEAKER_01:No, I feel like I would I would hold like this in the middle of the.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, wait a gripping with your middle in your index, or are you gripping with your These two are going through the hole?
SPEAKER_01:Okay, these two are holding uh kind of the side of the plate.
SPEAKER_03:Interesting hand position you have to do.
SPEAKER_01:I don't like that grip. Okay. I think you need to pinch grip it. No, I don't think you do because you're not I don't care about the grip, I don't care about the grip of the person you're holding up.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, but you know, that doesn't matter if you're gonna be able to do it.
SPEAKER_03:You're not relying on a grip strength because she's gonna wait. Yeah, she's gonna grab your wrist and you're grabbing her wrist. Now you're relying on her grip strength, which is gonna be.
SPEAKER_01:No, but I don't care about that grip strength on that end. I'm thinking this grip strength holding to the bar. That's the thing that's gonna be at first.
SPEAKER_03:When it happens, you're adrenaline.
SPEAKER_01:You know, because it's like if I'm standing and then I'm holding my wife up in that grip strength while she's hanging, I can hold her for for sure for longer than you could hold your wife off a cliff for how long? Like I don't know how long, I'm just saying that grips. I'm not super worried about that. Did I have a chance to chalk? Did you have a chance to like chalk your hands? Sure, yeah. We definitely chalked up, rust debris. But I'm saying, like, that I could hold her weight that way, but just with not me hanging. Just standing.
SPEAKER_03:Could you pull her up?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like well, not like like uh she'd have to help.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, no. Have you guys held a fucking hundred pounds before?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. We could pull up our wives, I think. Off the edge of a cliff, we could pull up our wives.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but if yes, if you could back up with one arm, I'm not saying, but I'm not saying like we just one arm roll her. Nope.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, but we're backing up. We're backing up. We're using legs, you could.
SPEAKER_01:We're gonna try it.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe not on a cliff. We don't want anybody to die.
SPEAKER_01:You can't do it. Well, our wives won't die because we'll pull them up. Okay, but all I'm saying is now we're at it back to the beginning. We're adding the us hanging, zero chance.
SPEAKER_02:No, zero chance for any of this. What why am I the voice of reason? You're not. You never are. No, you're not. You never are. Okay. This is like when I said I could fight Mo. I take that back.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that was uh I'd like to see. I've ever seen you make a statement like that. So he went into another room as well when I was there and got so wrong. And got put in his place by a couple other people who said there's no way he could touch Mo.
SPEAKER_02:I have said some shit, and that one was pretty far wrong. Yeah, we know.
SPEAKER_03:Including like an almost professional grappler, we'll say legitimately, like uh who was like blown away by his statement. Yeah. Alright, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna be hanging tomorrow morning, 6 a.m. I'm gonna be working on that all day. That's all I'm gonna do. You know what the enemy is? Uh reality? Ego. Oh. I don't think this is an ego thing.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's not.
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_01:So I had a conversation with somebody. Well, I we should uh end this here. We should really shut this down. Uh maybe we'll come back to this. Uh so I brought that you're priming for the next episode. Enemy, yeah, there you go. Uh the enemy is the ego idea. Oh no, ego is the enemy. That's the right way. Uh so I said that to somebody I know, and he was he's like a psychologist. And he's like, I don't like that. I'm like, why? Well he's like, it just is. Like, ego is just a part of us. So ego can be it can be bad, it can be good. Um obviously I think a lot of times we it's viewed very it's viewed bad because it's it's um causes people to you know think a certain way and then act like they can do stuff they can't, or to not admit they're wrong, or whatever the thing is, right? But i I guess his take was it just is. No, I don't like that. Like ego just is. You can't separate ego from us, sure.
SPEAKER_02:But you can certainly try and step on it every chance you get.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. But I also I think uh categorizing something as negative that just is, like just is part of you. You cannot defeat, you can't you can't lose the you will have an ego no matter what. Ego is part of you as part of humans, and it just again depends upon uh how you view it. And yes, I think it needs to be checked, but uh it's interesting. I it's just interesting. I've never when I said to him, I was like, I was it was just an interesting uh thought process on it. He's like, nah, more just is and you like, yeah, for sure, you can it can be bad, but no, it is bad. I think I I I don't get it. Again, it depends on how it depends on how you view it. Sure.
SPEAKER_02:If you're viewing it all the negative context, then yeah, it's bad. In what point it tell me where ego helps you.
SPEAKER_03:If you're I'll get back to you on that.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I mean, if you're hanging off a cliff and you have your wife in one hand, yeah, and your ego is gonna be and your ego was telling you that oh, I could do this because I'm so strong. No, I but no, I disagree.
SPEAKER_03:So no, ego helps you in certain sorts of things.
SPEAKER_01:I think so too. I think if you talk if you like high performers, my guess is they have a very strong ego.
SPEAKER_02:But did they get that to that point by letting their ego get in the way? So if your ego has gotten in the way of you being willing to take feedback from your peers or training, it can get in the way to understand your shortcomings, it can get in the way, but also if it's if it causes this mindset that I am the best, I I I am the best, I'm the greatest.
SPEAKER_01:Like Jordan Michael Jordan.
SPEAKER_03:Michael Jordan is uh my example too.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like you his he would have an ego, and because of his ego, he uh he got to where he was. So it I think it has the ability. Um I I completely agree with you. I think it's it's related to drive as well. For most people, it's gets in the way. But for in some cases, it's weird because high performers, um not all of them, but a lot of high performers, especially when it comes to athletics and sports, will likely have a gigantic ego that's driven them to where they are.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe. I don't know about all. I'd be curious if all of them or like we don't actually know like no one's gonna be able to do that. No, I agree. I agree. Yeah, I I I yeah, I don't know. I can see but I can see how it could be helpful in those cases.
SPEAKER_03:But I think confidence but the only thing you remember is like people with an ego that gets in the way because that's memorable to you. It's like other people who have an ego that just really is the enemy for them because they're just too egotistical.
SPEAKER_02:For sure.
SPEAKER_03:And I've I but you guys have egos. I have an ego. Of course we do, and I think it makes us more successful.
SPEAKER_02:No, it hurts me every time. It has hurt me every single time in my life.
SPEAKER_03:Tell me how it makes you successful. Well, I just go back to the Michael Jordan example. Yeah, but you're not Michael Jordan. No, I I know, but he's the extreme example of this, being that like I'm trying to remember things from the last dance, like all these different little stories about him and having that ego. I was like the movie, the last dance. No, no, the the last dance, the documentary or whatever about the bulls.
SPEAKER_02:Um, no, no, but I'm saying tell me, like, we all have egos, but how has how in any situation has it helped one of us average but egos are related to confidence as well, and I think that's where maybe we're muddying the waters a bit?
SPEAKER_01:I I think it's a line, it's a fine line between like confidence and ego. And I think ego, like I said, I think it can be bad because the extreme side of it, and I think it can be meh, it can be a dri uh a driving force. I I I am with you that the lot the lot of things are probably more negative when it comes to the idea of ego in terms of like things that they cause people to do, that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_02:I think you're conflating confidence and ego, and I don't think they're the same thing.
SPEAKER_01:I think I I think they can be the same thing. I think there's a lot a line where they become the same thing.
SPEAKER_02:They masquerade as the same thing, but to get to those points, I think.
SPEAKER_01:But again, it's because you're you're putting your idea and your perception of what ego is, it's from a negative, a negative perception, a negative context, where again it doesn't necessarily have to be a negative context. That's it, that's a big if you if you if you taint ego the word ego as completely negative, no matter what what form or or it comes out as, then yeah, then you're saying that it's always negative. But again, I I think if you took ego as a spectrum, um, from like some confidence to like it's ruining your life because you're you're making mistakes based on it, versus so that's the thing. I think you're just seeing it purely as bad, whereas if you see it as like a spectrum of like it gives me drive to push here and and I I want to be better and I think I'm good at this, so I want to be better, um, and then all the way to yeah, it ruins my life. Like that that's the that that's the difference. I think I I think in general it's just been labeled as a completely negative thing, and I just don't know if it's that. I think it's it is something and it's part of us, it's part of everyone, and then how that kind of manifests in our life depends upon a whole bunch of things. And how much we let it take over is a problem.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe you might be right. But I don't know. I still don't think saying it it just it is the goal should be to step on it every chance you get, even if you're the best. Because there's somebody better, or you've missed something, or you can be better.
SPEAKER_01:Sure, but I get I and I and I agree with you 90, 90% of the time. But those those outliers, and again, that's not us, I get that, but those outliers, I don't think that's the case.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think no, because if you're the best, I am the best in the world at something. But the if I if I have this ego saying I'm the best, I'm gonna miss something. It's gonna, it's gonna get in the way, it's gonna clap.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, most of those people who like like the Michael Jordan or the uh the Kobe's and most of the people who even thought they were that they're the best, they still had the they're still the ones showing up at 4 a.m. in the morning to work out.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and maybe that's where there was not as much ego there. I don't know. I just don't I I don't know. It's just been it's been it's been what's on my brain for a little bit lately. Okay, it's okay. You be you you do you just trying to kick it in the old the old D. Right? Yeah. The old one. The old one, not the new one, the old one, the old gray one.
SPEAKER_03:Speaking of which, Grock has given me a 12-month plan to uh increase my grip strength so I can hang. Because it says an untrained person can do one to two seconds without slipping. Intermediate, six to twelve months training, five to fifteen seconds with one arm hang. Just one. Advanced, advanced 20 to 30 seconds. But we're gonna find out tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01:George Saint Pierre has uh big on hanging, and he puts up the videos about him. He's uh working up to like a minute and a half one arm hangs. Yes, maybe possible. That'd be super cool.
SPEAKER_03:He he could hold his his wife and maybe I doubt it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like I doubt it. All right, we'll find out. That's all like even if your wife is small and weighs a hundred pounds, that's a hundred pounds. Go pick up a hundred pound dumbbell and hang. Nope.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, this is uh impossible. I think I just wrote a check my body can't cash.
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