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#75 - Lost Soul Ultra 2025 - FAIL
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Thanks for coming back. Today we discuss JB's failure at completing the 100 Mile Lost Soul Ultra. There is some other stuff too but ....
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SPEAKER_02:You know what would have helped you on uh that journey?
SPEAKER_04:Love to know.
SPEAKER_02:Some lime flame nicotine pouches by Velo.
SPEAKER_03:For sure would not have helped me.
SPEAKER_02:It says it's not English, but it says 160. What is that?
SPEAKER_03:160 milligrams? Total. Yeah. Oh divided by 20.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay. Well, that's not terrible. Alright. Anyway. Tell us a story there, JB.
SPEAKER_04:Uh I am a day off of my failure to complete a hundred-mile race.
SPEAKER_02:You mean you're 364 days off your success of next year of doing no?
SPEAKER_04:I'm never doing that stupid. So I'm not doing it again. Down. Why am I doing this? Why are we doing this? How long do you want to bet? This is stupid. Two weeks.
SPEAKER_02:Two weeks? Yeah, okay, I'll bet two weeks.
SPEAKER_04:Why? Why would I do that again? Um, I don't care. So Lost Soul Ultra. Uh myself and Tony signed up for the Hundred Mile this year, as I'm sure you are aware if you listen to this podcast.
SPEAKER_03:Incessantly.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and uh I was looking forward to it, and to be honest, it was a good day, other than um I was feeling pretty actually really good, the vast majority of it. Except my quads started cramping like leg two. And so I was basically trying to and I don't understand it. Like that's if I was ever gonna do it again, which I'm not, I really need to sort out like why that's happening. Because I had a ton of salt. I was making like I took I was drinking electrolytes, I was drinking water, like I feel like I was on top of all that, and it didn't matter. Like by kilometer what it be, nine, nineteen, I don't know, twenty-five-ish, I was starting to get like cramps in my quads. And go and then like so like then going uphill, it was like as you're stepping, and if I fully extend, like to stand, so like I bend my knee to step up, as I step stand up and extend, it would like seize at the top of the of the contraction. I was like, uh so then I was trying not to full extension on my step ups, and which which seemed to work okay, and honestly, it came kind of came and went, but the the downfall I think was that because by the end, so basically I ended up at a full so did ended up ended up at about 100, I don't know, 104, I think officially 110 is it on my on my uh watch kilometers. Um and that last loop that I did, so I went into it was a 16k loop from Pavan back to Pavan. And when I started that one, like I was tired, but I was actually actually feeling pretty decent. And that loop just murdered me, like absolutely destroyed me. And the second time you went around? Yeah, the second time. So that would have been from about uh I don't know, 90 something to the 100 and whatever I ended at uh kilometers. So but before that, like honestly, like night and day difference from last the 100 kilometer we did, like I felt like in way, way, way better than the last time we tried we did the 100k. And um other other than my legs cramping, but like I said, that was coming and going, so it is what it is. But the start was started to kill me was the downhills because it's all quad muscles breaking, like your whole quad, like and it nothing else hurt. My my hamstrings, my calves, nothing else, muscle-wise, was a problem. Um my ankle started to hurt, like I have my tendon in the front of my shin, kind of lower right beside my ankle. That's that actually hurts today. Like I have muscle pain, but this is almost like tendon pain, so I think it's maybe a little bit injured. But like that was really affecting the downhill. So downhills, and like if you if you don't know this race, basically there's a ton of a ton of hills and um so the downhills like ideally you would kind of shuffle or or like run them because it's like a momentum taking you down, but my legs are getting were so screwed and my feet were hurting so much that like I was trying to like almost walk them, but because of that, I was putting almost so much more pressure into my quads to like slow my movement down that the last that 16k loop I was almost falling because my quads were giving out, they're like basically failing. And so then I was like, then I at that point I was like, okay, well, I gotta I can't like walk this, I gotta kind of like fall down it. So I was kind of like control like control fall with like trying to get my feet, make sure my feet were getting on front of me so I don't actually wipe out uh down these like downhills. And some of them are brutal downhills and they're like almost sandy shale, so you can't if even if you step solid, you're usually slipping. Um, anyway. I mean all day I was like that, but this this specific, I don't know what just like the accumulation of uh the trauma to my quads, I don't know what it was, but like that that last loop, and then there's a ton of flat in that section as well, and that flat was killing me. Like I was trying to I was trying to basically speedwalk it, which was working for most of the day, but the speed walking actually was hurting my legs more than just trying to do this stupid, like if you some if you people someone saw you doing this shot, like this like shuffle run that you look like a moral You're running slower than you're walking, basically, but like it feels faster, and I think it is probably a little bit faster, but not much. That actually felt better, but I couldn't maintain that, so then I end up walking. When I finally finished the hills on that 16k loop, I was feeling I was like, okay, whatever, like that sucked, but we got flat till the end. I should be able to just power walk this and and figure it out. But I got about halfway through that and I started getting dizzy, um, and then I started I started like like stumbling on nothing, and I was like basically walking the trying to walk the trail, but like kind of like walking back and forth, like like kind of side to side and like tripping over my own feet for no reason. And I was like, Oh, this isn't good. And then so my fast walk turned into like a slow saunter, and I ended up still finishing. I'm surprised, I still finished that loop in three hours, which I thought when I got back, I was like, that had to have been four and a half hours. I didn't honestly I didn't look at my watch or my phone all day long, just didn't care. Just got to the next one, get to the next one. That was kind of my mindset, and I got there, and my wife was there, and it was like, I don't know, three in the morning, maybe four in the morning. No, three must have been three in the morning. And um, I was just like, I and I was shivering because it was so cold out. So I was like shivering, my I could and he started downhill, and like there's it's flat, but there's like a couple of spots where it's downhill, like I'd say like a three feet decline, and that was murdering me. I I couldn't eat, like I was almost trying to do it sideways, like I couldn't do it anymore. And I just started like then and then you get in your head, so like there's a bit of like the like I honestly don't think that my body would have taken me 56 more kilometers. Uh, but also like yeah, for sure, there's a mental part I got in my head a bit, and I was like, about that, about the fact that like okay, I have 56 kilometers left, and I'm like, can I do I can I push the pain away to survive that 56k? I'm like, I honestly don't know if my body can do it because the next section was that 6k with the three hills that were at the worst hills in the whole course, because they're insanely steep up and insanely steep down. And the up I could have done because I was actually feeling pretty good on the ups. It was the downs that I was like, I'm like, I'm going to like I'm gonna have to like just fall. Like I'm just have to like, so I don't know what I'm gonna do, lay on my back and like my kids do an interesting thing called the bum scoots.
SPEAKER_02:There you go.
SPEAKER_04:And that's sort of what I because I started thinking, like, okay, can I get through this next section? I'm like, you know what? I can probably get through it. It's gonna be absolutely terrible because of those downhills, and I'm likely gonna fall, but I'll probably get through it. But then I'm like, but why? For in my head, I'm like, but then can I then do another 50k, another whole lap of the course? Can I get it done? And at that point, I was like, no, there's no there's no chance. I just didn't think there was any possibility that I could have finished and but my time, like at that point in time, I had the time to do it. Like I so at the halfway mark, I was at 13 hours. So I'd finished 80k in about 13 hours. So there's 33 hours total. So that I was even 26, so I would have had like tons of time on paper to actually get it done. Um my body just was like, no, we're not doing it. And and sure, I maybe it's I forgot because this is the thing that's gonna do I'm beat myself up over the next couple of years about like I for sure there is the mental aspect, and I and I definitely think I quit. Um, but I do think it was like a smart choice. I might I don't regret it. Like if I think about it now, like I'm not regretting pulling the pain. Well, and and it's I honestly, if I'm being honest, I don't I do not think I could have finished it that day. I don't know why. Like I said, I felt amazing up to that point. Um we met some people, some of the people from work came and they saw us at Elks that were that last last year were the second time to Elks. And I like some of them, they're like, You looked good. Like I was like, I felt good, like I felt really good then. I still felt I mean, I mean you're sore, but like I felt fine. My feet, I only have one little blister on my foot. Last year my feet were blown up, I had blisters everywhere. Um, so they were really sore, but like there was no blisters. So there's a lot of things that were a lot better than last time, and I was three I finished the 100k about three hours quicker than last year.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, much faster.
SPEAKER_04:Way faster. So I don't know. In the in the end, it's like it's a win. Like in some ways, like I I I fixed a lot of the problems that we had last year, and sure, the temperature was a lot a lot less, which is amazing. Uh I fixed a lot of the problems we had last year. I just uh just didn't have a hundred miles with me. Were you using polls? No, and then so I'm never doing it again, but if I ever did it again, that'd be one thing I would change. Uh polls. So there is this lady. Uh there's this lady in front of me, like most of the day, and I'd catch her and I'd pass her every once in a while. So her name's uh I know her name's Susan because everyone was like, hey Susan, they would know her. She is between 60 and 69, because that's I looked in her age category. She finished it, the hundred mile.
SPEAKER_00:Wow.
SPEAKER_04:Um, she uh I don't think she'd have in danger for ever listening to this. She I'm not gonna say anything rude, but like she's got a bit of a hunchback and she's kind of like bow legged a little bit.
SPEAKER_02:And kind of like she's between 60 and 69, yes, completely.
SPEAKER_04:And just crushing it in front. And I was so I wasn't frustrated, I was just like, oh my god, this is crazy. She was in front of me a lot of the time because some I think she just took less breaks. I don't know, like, and actually our aid station breaks were my aid station breaks were really short this time, but uh she would basically I'd somehow I'd see her ahead of me. I'm like, there she is again. She's got her poles, and she was just like, I can't even explain it, it's like just trucking, just with her poles, not running, not walking, but like a little bit of in-between, some sort of hype thing. I don't know what she's doing. Um crushing the uphills. Usually I'd catch her a bit on the uphills, the downhill she would just destroy though, just like down the hills. And I'm like, that's when I started thinking like those poles on the downhills probably would have saved my legs a ton. Um, but anyway, so I like I was it was just funny because I would I passed her in the one section, and then um I I don't know, I went to the A station, I felt like I was pretty quick. I go back out there and maybe like half an hour in, I'm like, is that is that Susan? She was ahead of me, just trucking along, like, what the hell? She's like impossible to catch. And then uh in that kit that 16k loop that I basically uh gave up on at the end, she was ahead of me, and I her light could see her light, and I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna keep up with her. If I fast walk, I can keep up with her pace. And I was doing it for like the last majority of the time, but then I just started to blow up and my quads were messed, and then her light just kept getting further and further away. And then as I was pulling into uh Pavan for the that check stop, uh she was already leaving Pavan to go to that next 6k, and I'm like, ugh, I can't catch Susan. And it's just like it's so it's so crazy the the ultra marathon game. Like, just it you can't look at somebody and say, yes, they'll they're gonna finish this and no, they're not gonna finish it. Not a chance.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's interesting. The poles are important, like I think the polls are the only reason I got through the leg from Pavan to softball vacuum just because of those hills, because like I would just plant them in the hill in front of me and like hold myself from the phone. And I'm like, yeah, I think I was having much of the same experience.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I think I guess I honestly I honestly do not think I'll ever do it again. Um you said the exact same thing this time last time. That's what my wife said. And she also took a video of me saying that I'm not gonna do it again. She's like, she can throw it in my face if I ever do it again. Yeah, uh, but if I if that that would be one thing for sure that I think I would change, because I think that would have but I also honestly need to sort of why am I cramping so quickly? Um it doesn't make sense because I feel like I'm doing the right things in terms of sodium and but were you doing that the days leading up to it? Yeah, like I like I was like then last week I was taking one of those sodium pills a day. I was trying to have some electrolytes every night before bed. Um I felt like I did it right.
SPEAKER_02:It's like carbloating a thing on that before the day before.
SPEAKER_04:Energy wise, I felt pretty good to be honest, until that last part where I was getting dizzy, and then when I waited, stopped there. I um they had broth, and so I had like three cups of broth, and I felt better from that perspective. Um, but I was like, my wife brought a blanket and I had a blanket and I was like covered up and I was still just like shaking uncontrollably. Um I I don't know. Honestly, it was a good time. I don't know what to say. I don't say it was a good time. I I I I guess I like on I'm in theory, I'm disappointed I didn't finish it. I honestly not I don't regret quitting when I did because I don't think I could have finished another 56. Um I probably know I could have gotten to to finish that next 6k loop and end up back at softball, but in my head, I was like, why? Like I can't do another 56, so why do another six? I had a lot of FOMO while you guys were all running.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I can understand that. I was like, uh, these guys are having fun, they're doing all the suck together.
SPEAKER_04:Well, there's a lot actually, this is the interesting year. We there was almost nothing together. Which is which is fine. Everyone kind of ended up on their own really quickly. Did you and Tony? Right away.
SPEAKER_02:Just to just go by yourself. I I enjoyed it. Keep with a group, it's kind of a little more difficult.
SPEAKER_04:So Tony and I started together, obviously, and so there's a little 9k section that we got to do before we start the course. And right away, just because of this ship number of people, uh he ended up behind me, but um, we got to pretty much the same time. I I waited for him back at softball and then we started the next section together. But by the time we even got halfway through that section, he so we had talked private previously. We're like, what are we doing? Are we sticking together at all costs or we're not sticking together? And we kind of just came to the conclusion that like at some point if one of us is just not feeling it, or like they think they're gonna be slower, and you don't want to just like we'll have a safe word, and the safe word is like there's no like, do I need to wait for you? It's like no no, you are fine to leave me. And he told me, like, within that first section, like halfway, he's like, Okay, I'm our I'm I'm telling safe word now. I'm like, Are you serious? He's I'm like, dude, we're fine. He's like, No, we're uh because he thought we were going a little too quick. I felt we felt good, I didn't think it was too fast. He's like, I'm just I'm struggling a bit. I feel like I'm and he had some hip thing happening and he always has stomach issues. Anyway, so um when we got back to we got back to Elk's the same time. Uh did we leave there together? Yeah, I think we left there together, but then after that I just ended up getting ahead of him. And by the end, I think I was like an hour and a half or more ahead of him. And then he didn't finish that 16k loop. Uh he stopped before that 16k loop. He was a he was a mess. He should have quit before that.
SPEAKER_03:Really?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he was having like he I don't really know to be honest. I think it was just crazy. He was puking and stomach issues and all the things. Um, he got convinced he got talked into doing softball to Pivan because he started it and then he called and was like, I I think I'm out, I can't do this, because he was just having so much problems, and then so he went back to softball, but then his pacer, who he had arranged, met him there and convinced him that he can get to the pavan. And so when I got back after my 16k pavan loop, I was there for probably 25 minutes, and then he finally showed up from softball to Bavan. Oh, and he had called before I had left on that loop. So that loop that took him like three and a half, four hours. And that softball to Bavan is my hell. It's the worst.
SPEAKER_03:It's eight, it's only 8k, but it's the absolute worst. Yeah, it is truly the hardest.
SPEAKER_04:I was thinking about that actually. So on our the first lap of it last time, I was thinking, oh, right here's where Curtis and I stopped. And hey, and I we had that negative conversation about how we're never doing this anymore. And I'm like, okay, I feel good right now, we're good. And I just have I was thinking about that as I ran past it. Yeah, you I mean you got lucky with weather. Oh, amazing.
SPEAKER_03:Which is nice. Uh like I mean. Smokiness was Didn't even notice it. No, no. Okay. What was like the do you can you hone in on the exact moment when you decided you were done?
SPEAKER_04:Um I don't know. It was somewhere in the flat, like it was somewhere probably between on that 16k loop. I finished the downhills, I started the stri the flat, and I was like, I was feeling like I can fast walk this and get back. But then throughout that, I don't know, I don't know what it was. I think it was but I was starting to get dizzy, uh, and like not and basically stumbling for no reason. Like I was just starting to like almost fall over, and then any sort of downhill, I had to like tippy toe, like go down super slow, and we're talking like a nothing hit nothing hill, like nothing downhill. And I'm like, and then I started thinking, how am I gonna do these next three hills? And then I started thinking, can I finish 56k? So there was like a weird, and uh yeah, maybe it's a downhill spiral in my head for that portion for sure, but I I think that I mean maybe I'll maybe I don't know. I feel like my I feel like it was justified and maybe it wasn't, but uh my guess is like the last like 6k of that 16k was a was my problem.
SPEAKER_03:Did you feel the sense of relief when you decided you were done?
SPEAKER_04:Uh yeah, like I had no I had no regret in the moment. Like where there was somebody there, like my even my wife was like, Are you sure? Like you I think you can get to the next one. I'm like, Yeah, like I I think I can get there too, but I don't think I can do 56 more. Like, sure.
SPEAKER_02:Did you decide this at the aid station when she was putting a blanket on you at three in the morning? Oh no, no, I line you're like if that was me, which puts the blanket on me and I have some broth in my hand, I'm probably gonna shut it on. Oh yeah, it's it's her fault. It's her fault.
SPEAKER_04:No, coming in, coming in to it. I already kind of had this conversation, like, in my okay, what am I yeah, I guess justifying it, but like thinking, okay, what um be trying to be realistic, okay. Can I force myself through another lap of this course? Um, and I just didn't feel like my legs could do it. I don't know. Um, so I it sometime in that, I don't know, last whatever. But that yes, that was about 104 kilometer total, like more 110 on my watch. So I don't know why I don't know what the discrepancy is, but um yeah, I don't know. So and like I said, way faster than last year. Like I felt really, really good for the most of it, so it was a good time.
SPEAKER_02:No, you'll get you'll get it next year, pretty sure. I'm not doing it next year. I guess you will. Yeah, you will.
SPEAKER_04:Like we know you will exact stuff. Can I mention how much I hate that straw is disgusting? Carbboard straws. Yeah, they're the worst. I got a Slurpee, and this cardboard straw is like 100% useless. I noticed your cup is plastic. Yeah, whatever.
SPEAKER_02:They should just give you a plastic straw. Yeah, isn't that stupid?
SPEAKER_03:I should.
SPEAKER_02:I carry around a bunch of those. Yeah, you do, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_04:Um it was good though. I had a lot of other guys ran it. Um our buddy Nathan did really well. He was sticking with uh another friend of ours from work, uh, who was uh struggling hard really quickly. So he toughed out quite a bit. I think about 60 is my guess. Uh yeah, he dropped where I dropped. Yeah, he toughed out about 60k. But when I caught Them on that pavan loop, the 16k loop, but the first time he was he was a mess. Oh sorry if you listened to this. He was such a mess. And I I and I I honestly just think he sweats too much. Like I think that he cannot hydrate enough to keep because he was cramping too, but I think he was cramping like everywhere, like his stomach, his legs, everything. And like I don't know because I haven't talked to him this, so uh I wouldn't want to put words in his mouth. But like when I ran into when I came up to them, like he was he already had basically it looked like a tie-dye shirt with sweat stains, and he was he was wearing like they were all black, and that might have been a poor choice. Uh and then he was wearing like literally you could see the white salt stains throughout all of his stuff. Yeah, that's what George was saying. And he finished, he drank a full three and a half liters of water on that pavan loop and ran out and was looking for water, and by the time he got to that second kind of little water station they have set up, he had to fill everything back up again. And I had left them at that point because I I'd passed them and I was sticking with them for a bit, and then I ended up leaving them around there. So it's about 4K left in that one. But yeah, he was he's and then he got through the next another 16, another probably 20k after that point. So um he was hurting bad. And then after but then after he left, uh Nathan went on his own and uh just sprinted the rest of it. Sprinted the rest of it. Yeah. Uh Cassandra DeWinter with a two-hour time. Like, give me a praise. Yeah, so there's this girl.
SPEAKER_02:She's from Balkan.
SPEAKER_04:Is she?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, my mom texted me all, she's updating me all about Cassandra's progress.
SPEAKER_04:So she I we I creeped her on Facebook, and uh she looks like she does like a lot of these now, and she like wins them all, like sets course records, wins them.
SPEAKER_02:I think she qualified for Boston recently.
SPEAKER_04:Of course she well, actually her marathon time, uh, because she has it in her bio, is like 255, so it's under three hours, which is good, but like I expected it would be higher or lower. Yeah, but sub-three hour marathon is the goal.
SPEAKER_03:For sure, yeah, but that's for Boston, right? Yeah, right. Like anybody that can run a sub-three hour marathon is a legitimate marathon runner, and I know her a little bit. Oh, do you? I know, yeah. Oh, I know you know her. Um and I know her husband. She was always like a fitness kind of person. Yep. Uh, and then I think running is a bit of a new thing, but like she is good.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, that's insane. Ten hours for a hundred K. Explain that to me. Tony, Tony used the proper word, he said it was unfathomable. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't. 10. So basically I could we can well most I think most of us could run a 10k in an hour. Like if if if that was the only 10k we had to run. If it's like, hey, you here's your 10k best time, you'd be like, oh yeah, I can do a 10k in an hour. But to maintain that for 10 hours over the hills and the craziness. That doesn't make sense. It doesn't. Does she like I'd like to talk to her? Like, does she walk does she run the hills up? Does she run ups? I'm gonna see if she wants to come back. That'd be amazing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Like, what is like what is wrong with you? Uh and she's she's like pretty petite. Yeah. But I don't it does it doesn't matter. Like it doesn't make sense.
SPEAKER_04:It's the crazy thing about I like again, I said this before, but the crazy thing about these races is you look at people and their doesn't matter what they like it, it literally has no bearing on their ability, is what they look like. I've saw a guy who was like has a bit of a belly on them, destroying it, destroying it. Um, there's a portion from leg uh five where leg three you basically pass each other. So basically so essentially it's almost like a 15-20k difference between that one and that one. So I was uh I was walking, I was coming from leg five back to softball. So this is the finishing my first lap. There was a guy who was a hundred miler passing me going the other direction. So he was 10, 18, yeah, he was like 25 kilometers ahead. And this is the first, this is the finish he finished, and and this dude was a big guy. He wasn't like a didn't look like a runner build. He looked thick, he looked like a big, a big guy, like a guy lift weights, or I don't know. And I was just like, What? I was like, good job, man. I was just gonna like what is going on? Like, how is that possible?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's like I think it's people's ability to just keep a pace regardless of the elevation changes, and I don't know how you do that. I don't know either. Because especially some of those hills, you know, the hill coming out of Softball Valley, that first hill, or even the hill coming out of Pavan, those big hills. And I was just like, man, these hills are killing me. Like, you're just digging like for me, I was just digging my pole and like ugh one.
SPEAKER_04:I actually felt like I was getting better at the hills throughout the day. Like the ups, anyway, like downs were the worst, but the ups, I was actually felt like I was I was doing pretty decent with. Um there's like a you can't walk in your tiptoes like you normally would, because on an incline you'd normally use your calves and like tiptoe walk it almost, like not fully tiptoe, but you know what I'm saying. My calves like are completely fine, like they're not even sore. So like I was like not using them apparently. But like I kind of it's like I don't even I was thinking about this as I was doing it because you have nothing I didn't wear have headpool headphones in, so I was thinking the whole time. And uh I was thinking about this. I'm like, oh, it's kind of weird my form on these. But basically, I'm I'm like flat footed, I kind of pop my ass out a bit, so like I feel like I'm using more of like my my legs and my ass. Well you have to be like you straighten your leg, right?
SPEAKER_03:But your foot is flat. Yeah, I think I mean that's how I was told it's weird.
SPEAKER_04:Like, and I just kind of like you think you just kind of figure it out doing it because like the first year we did it, I was trying to like tiptoe and with like very quickly my calves start cramping. Yeah, and so it was just funny, but as I was uh like last no, I guess it was was it last night? No, but whatever. Whenever it was a couple nights ago, I think it was last night. Um I was I was like as I was doing it, I was just like, it's weird when you start thinking about it, like, oh, this probably would look really weird. I just think about how how your form is when you're doing it, but it felt good and I could power I could power up them, even though the kind of inclined the steeper ones are a bit harder, but even like I I just felt like I was like, oh, this is actually works really well. Didn't help my downhills, but anyway, I don't know. It was good. Uh but a bunch of guys ran to 50. Uh I think I think everyone finished the 50 that signed up for it. There's some suffering on because it was a lot hotter that second day. I think they had to suffer a bit through like 29, 30 degrees.
SPEAKER_03:Still not nearly as hot as last year. No.
SPEAKER_04:Last year was what, 35?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but I think 35, 36. I'm not using that as an excuse, but like also it made a huge difference.
SPEAKER_04:It really did. Like, um, obviously I used ice a lot quicker this time as well, which helped, but like Yeah, which is smart. Yeah, because I mean again, you learned you learned.
SPEAKER_03:We were such hammers last year, though, leaving for the first two legs, and it's like, yeah, I'm just gonna use my handheld water bottle.
SPEAKER_04:But here's the thing. So that you say that, but we were talking about this today, and some of those people that fin so the the Cassandra lady who finished in 10 minutes, 10 hours, and then there's the guy who I think he finished the hundred mile in I don't know if the no, I feel like it was 17, 18 hours. I can't remember. Maybe it was 20, I think it was 20 hours. Anyway, um my wife was saying when she we she sees some of these kind of leaders coming in, they only had handhelds. They and so like what is the difference? Like that's what I that's what I don't understand. So what is the difference? Like, why can they survive on I don't know, my guess is they maybe have a liter of water throughout these portions. Are they filling it up at each aid station?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, for sure. Which is why they're sort of time less between each eight station.
SPEAKER_04:Well, maybe that's a good point. They're doing it quicker. But they're still covering the same the same distance, but so you'd assume they still want a lot of water. And so I'm wondering, like, it'd be actually interesting to talk to somebody who who does them so quick. Is it like are you you are you just don't need the same amount like amount of water, or is it just because you're doing it so much quicker that like you're you just trust that even if you run out, you're gonna get the station fill up and get going. Yeah, I think some of it is efficiency.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe you know, like they just they're not sweating as much, they're not per se working as hard, but they're working faster. I don't know. Yeah, heart rates.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. I don't know. That's my wife was saying she's like some of these guys who are coming in, like coming in hot and being like, fill up my water bottles, and then like gone. It's like two minutes stop, gone. And and there's she's like, they only had like a handheld and maybe like one of those waistbands with like like basically my my guess is they couldn't have more than a liter, literally and half of water.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and you wonder like the pack that I wore had I had a camel back in it full of a liter of water. I had the two water bottles kind of like on the chest. I mean it weighs something. Yeah I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Like it mine, mine's a two and a half bladder, it it's a big one, but and I I got to the point though, like so much. I didn't have stomach issues per se, but I got to the point where anything I just felt gross, like my stomach just felt not good. It didn't it wasn't like I was hurting, I wasn't puking or anything, but and so I was always trying to like what do I can I feed this thing that's not gonna make it worse? And um and then water just started tasting like I didn't want to eat drink water because it just was like it felt like it was making it worse. Yeah, I don't know. It's a weird thing. That's uh such a weird thing. But tough year for the boys, tough year, tough year, but it was like I said, it was um whatever.
SPEAKER_03:Finished at 100k, I'm happy with that. Well, 33% of us ran the race we committed to running this year.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and another 33% he didn't finish. So 0% of us finished the race we were signing up for.
SPEAKER_04:That's that's also true. That's a terrible way of looking at it. Uh didn't um Andrew, what how did he do? Nine and a half. Okay. Yeah, it's good. I don't think I looked up his time.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and that's why like Al, I think um you may or may not listen to this, is you're biting off a lot starting at the 100k without having run the 50. Yeah. Uh because it's nice to get shake out some of those bugs and get a feel for you know what you need and what you did you start with the 50? No. You went right to the 100. Yeah, I I I don't think I want to do this ever again. But I just don't believe you. Because you said the exact same thing last year, and then two weeks later you're looking up races in like California.
SPEAKER_04:Which which never let me do if you're listening to this and like slap my hands if I'm trying to register. Because the big difference between like this one and like some of those in the states is the aid, right? Like, so every 10k here, minimum, or about 10k, you're getting like a fully aided station. They got food, they got anything you want to drink, they got people who are like, hey, what can I get you? Well, ice. A lot of these ones in the states, like Leadville and other ones, there's like aid stations are like 20 miles apart, so they're very different. And when I'm talking A station, it's like a tent in the middle of nowhere with some water. And if you don't have your nutrition with you or somebody who's bringing it to you, you're not getting any. So, like, those are different beasts, and I don't want to do that.
SPEAKER_03:What are you gonna do then?
SPEAKER_04:I'm gonna go back once I heal, I'm going back to jujitsu and uh lifting weights.
SPEAKER_03:By October, he'll be yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_04:Uh I want to go back to kind of CrossFit style workouts, and I want to um help with this next fight camp. Good. That's my plan.
SPEAKER_03:Are you gonna run the 50 next year?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I still have the credit. Oh so I've been stretching a lot.
SPEAKER_04:Running helps too.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, no, it's just uh I understand that. Oh and I can run on a flat treadmill, but as soon as you introduce the ankle doing this, it tightens my IT band up and then it hurts after about 5k.
SPEAKER_04:Um shoes, I'm not super satisfied with the shoes I wore. I wore them the whole time.
SPEAKER_02:Is it like a new shoe for that race? Or do you break it in and then break them in?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, you'd be stupid to wear a new shoe for that race.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that would just be terrible. Do you blow out your shoes? Like, do you go through a whole like is that pair of shoes done now?
SPEAKER_04:No, no, it's just that I got these uh Hokus stinsons and they're wide, which I like, but they just I don't know, the cushion, I don't know what it was. They just seemed like like my feet are in better condition, but they hurt like as much, if not more.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't know. I mean, my last year I changed my footwear from my new Hocus back to my old Hokus. I will probably never buy Hocus again. Like they're I don't know. I think I want to go with ultras.
SPEAKER_04:I'm gonna try something next run. Those ult no, just in general. The ultra runnings shoes because they are uh the wider toe base. Um I don't know. I'm just gonna try something different. I think. Well, I'm not gonna run that much, but if for training purposes, yeah, he's he's already starting to switch his mind.
SPEAKER_02:I think I'm gonna try ultras next year if I know this.
SPEAKER_03:ALTRA shoes, not ultra like an ultra run. Yeah. Uh you know what I've been on the about to I'm about to do? I think I think I'm about to buy an e-bike. Why? Yeah, yeah. I think I'm gonna get into biking. Where are you gonna go?
SPEAKER_04:Can I make a prediction?
SPEAKER_02:Sure. You remember the glass house that your cold plunge put in? Don't don't start throwing stones.
SPEAKER_04:No, there's no stones. But I'm gonna tell you that you're gonna spend the money on it and you're not gonna use it. You're gonna use it a handful of times. I don't think so.
SPEAKER_02:You are why do you think if you had an e-bike, would you take it into work? Would that be your worked commute?
SPEAKER_04:No, he's not gonna no, you're not gonna drive it to work. No, I would ride it.
SPEAKER_02:I would ride to work. I feel like you could with an e-bike. I think it was you're flat all the way there anyway. Dude, it's gonna be fine.
SPEAKER_03:On the highway? No, like I'll ride a hundred feet on the highway and hit the gravel road and head on the back roads. Yeah. Like I don't want to die, which is why I'm not gonna ride on the highway. Yeah, exactly. But I can make it to like the first um south gravel road and then run, head down to like the side roads.
SPEAKER_04:How long is that gonna take you?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:I haven't ridden my bike down. Okay, but my point is I think you do it like a three times, and then you're like, uh, today I can't because I work, we have this thing and I gotta take more stuff, so then you have a backpack. I don't want to wear my backpack, okay? I can't do it today. Keep in mind. Then it's like, oh wait, I slept in, so I have no time, so now I can't get there. Oh, but after working at the time. Oh, after work, my kid has this thing. Ah crap, I can't afford time to bike back.
SPEAKER_02:That's fine.
SPEAKER_04:Dude, I tell I'm telling you.
SPEAKER_03:I used to bike to work all the time. Cool. When you were when you live when you lived in the city. And at some point they're building that bike path behind my house. At some point in the next decade. Sure. They're building a bike path behind your house. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Connecting our town and the other town.
SPEAKER_01:No way.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. It's half done. Listen, you do you're 30% done. That's kind of cool. I predict it'll be on marketplace in a year.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think so. Why would you say that? I'm telling you, because I just don't think it'll be function. It won't work for your life. It won't work. You're busy. You're not going to have to take, you won't want to take the extra 30 minutes to an hour it takes every single day. I bet you it takes 30 minutes. Okay, both ways. Yeah. So it's an extra what, 50 minutes out of your day?
SPEAKER_02:Put a podcast in and I'm not saying it wouldn't be enjoyable. Relaxing on a cool autumn day, just like rolling it and work with that. It sounds great.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool and reliable or fun and like enjoyable. I'm saying you don't have the time.
SPEAKER_03:Listen, I've essentially never ridden an e-bike, but everybody that has a hand is fun is so much fun.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. It is so fun. You feel like a kid.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. And like going up the hills, you can control how much up the hill you want to do. So you can, it's like riding on flat ground. Zero. Is zero an option? Why are you coming at me with this?
SPEAKER_02:It's just right out of it.
SPEAKER_03:I thought I'd throw this out here in the hope that you guys would be like, yeah, like maybe we can get a little bit more.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, you both you both finish the same amount of ultrasound. I hope you buy it.
SPEAKER_04:I hope you buy it and then you enjoy it.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you.
SPEAKER_01:You're coming at me. We picked up my kid from school two days ago and on an e-bike.
SPEAKER_02:No, most of the bikes on the bike rack and the scooters were e-bikes. Because they're lazy.
SPEAKER_03:No, that's just the new thing. I don't like that. I don't think it makes you lazy to want to like Yes, it does.
SPEAKER_02:When when my boy's with his his friends and he is the only one without an e-scooter, I feel like they're the lazy kids.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because they don't want to use their leg to push.
SPEAKER_02:Because they're wearing crocs and they can't. I sort of get a little old. Let's not get into fat kids. Anyway.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not saying I'm not saying it's a problem for you.
SPEAKER_03:I'm saying kids should be riding their bikes old school. No, I agree. But adults, like also the other thing is like bikes are fucking expensive these days. Yeah, they are. What's a good e-bike go for? Uh the one I'm looking at is 2800. Is that Timu? No.
SPEAKER_02:Are you gonna get a kit to put on a pre-existing bike?
SPEAKER_03:I feel like that's a cheap e-bike.
SPEAKER_02:I am buying it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that is. I'm buying it from the Honda store. It is a cheap e-bike, and there's a reason it's cheap. And uh it's the same one that uh Joel that I work with has. Not Coach Joel, but the other Joel. Got it.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know, like whatever. I'm gonna use it. I predict you're gonna use it three times and then I'm gonna see it on marketplace.
SPEAKER_04:You will you will not use it nearly as much as you think you're gonna use it.
SPEAKER_02:I tell you what, CJ, that's awesome. I saw a cold plunge on Marketplace the other day.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's gone, sold. Yeah, I and I made I did okay. And we didn't buy it. We did I was close. I was close, yeah. And I'm glad you didn't because I made more money.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's and that's good. Who bought it? It's good.
SPEAKER_04:Uh some guy from Calgary. Oh, he came down, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Came down to buy it.
SPEAKER_04:Uh he was going to BC.
SPEAKER_03:I met him in Fort McLeod. Okay. Nice. He just didn't, and did you say, like, bro, you're gonna use this five times and then sell it?
SPEAKER_04:He's like, Why are you selling? I was like, I didn't use it enough. He's like, Okay. I'm like, good luck. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Because you know his wife was saying, well, you'll never use it. You'll use it for a couple times and then never use it again.
SPEAKER_03:Did he look like the kind of guy that would be into cold plunging? Okay, this guy uh showed up in a Harley.
SPEAKER_04:What? How do you his family was in a van, his other son was on a Harley, he was on a really, really cool. They were doing a road, a road trip. Like they were all going out to BC to golf, but there's two bikes and a minivan. Uh he was about 350.
SPEAKER_02:Just all muscle.
SPEAKER_04:Nope. Okay. Uh huh. Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:That's this is pretty it's a pretty slender profile cold plunge, isn't it? Like side to side. No, it's pretty big. Okay. You could fit. He's probably banging the sides though when he's gonna be.
SPEAKER_04:You don't want to fill you the fill line, you probably want to bring a bit lower now.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, cold plunges are good for losing body fat. Well, that's what they say, although some people I mean, if you'd have used yours, you would have known that. Yeah. It's true. So bad.
SPEAKER_02:You guys are hating each other today. I don't know about this.
SPEAKER_03:I just be friends. No, you know what?
SPEAKER_02:Speaking of commitment, some people put 50 bucks in.
SPEAKER_03:I put 50 bucks in. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You haven't put 50 bucks in. I didn't.
SPEAKER_03:I don't have to. So did we all next month, except for you?
SPEAKER_02:To be fair, mine was probably the easiest because I can do mine with headphones while I'm laying down.
SPEAKER_03:For sure.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Are you still gone?
SPEAKER_02:I haven't done one since September 1st, and I really should, because I don't know why I stopped. I'm gonna do it tonight because my wife and I are gonna do it. We just stopped doing it after that. So we'll get back into it.
SPEAKER_03:I also have not meditated more than once in the last nine days. Yeah. Hmm. What are you gonna do for the last time?
SPEAKER_01:I never did the did you do I never did that? No, did you do that?
SPEAKER_02:Is that a thing stereotype? It's like monk. I just use my breath mostly to concentrate.
SPEAKER_04:I think if I think if anyone's better good at meditating, it's monks.
SPEAKER_03:Tibetan monks.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I feel like that's something they're gonna do.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so we're done. Everybody except for you failed this month. Yeah. You, me, and Allie. I still haven't put my money in there. I don't think we had her money, did too. No, I got an IOU in there and so does Allie. We have more than 50% of the couches we're about to buy. Nice in this pot. Hey, also t-shirt money. Yeah. Do we have t-shirt money? Yeah. I owe the t-shirt money 90 bucks, by the way. There's our t-shirt money.
SPEAKER_04:There you go. Uh well, then just put that in that pile and then we're good. And then uh I think I have some in my locker I can throw in there. Okay. All right, and we're gonna get couches. I just I like it. I like it. Just make sure that like you have to sit in them before we can't buy them.
SPEAKER_02:But here's the thing like our legs are longer than some other. No, but that's not the point.
SPEAKER_04:You just have to think about being worried they're gonna be comfortable.
SPEAKER_02:I'm worried about I'm worried about JB's feet dangling and not reaching the crystal.
SPEAKER_04:No, I'm I'm worried that like you can't comfortably sit in them and have a mic in your face.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I think we're gonna have to get new booms for our mics. It is what it is, but like this is uh this is the next evolution of the Average Superior Podcast. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:I think the next evolution would include more listeners, but we don't need to concern ourselves with that.
SPEAKER_03:Uh you know what? My my mother-in-law and um her boyfriend are now listening. Oh, okay. My parents, I told my my parents we had a podcast the other day, like they didn't know.
SPEAKER_02:My parents, my parents don't know.
SPEAKER_03:My mom was like, Oh, yeah, I think you mentioned something about that. My dad was like, I don't know what you're talking about. What the fuck's a podcast?
SPEAKER_02:What's the podcast? Yeah, this is more about just talking to you guys.
SPEAKER_03:No, I know, but like if your kids had a podcast in 20 years, would you listen to it?
SPEAKER_02:Uh it depends on what my kids are like. Okay, yeah, that's fair. I don't know. Speaking of my kids are like, my oldest is starting judo on Tuesday.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, she's he's a Tuesday guy, he's a Tuesday guy.
SPEAKER_02:Guy, because it's just the beginner one. Uh, but we went in there to get his gi. They got new mats, and the mats are awesome. And then the nursing home also absorbed about 60 of their old mats. Oh, really? Like their newer old mats, I guess. Where are they going? Uh, we'll sort that out. But one of them says training center in it. So we anyway. Uh we walked in. He's never seen like an actual martial arts class. So I primed him before I'm like, hey, by the way, we walked in, it was like uh 14-ish year old kids, just just all doing just rolling, just doing like kind of rounds. And he was, you could see it in his face. He was like, Oh, this is what I signed up for. And I don't he's gonna cry.
SPEAKER_04:No, he's gonna be fine. He'll cry.
SPEAKER_03:He'll be fine. He's no crying in judo.
SPEAKER_02:If he ever listens to this, he's awesome, he's gonna conquer the world. But he I'm very curious to see a transformation in him because of this activity.
SPEAKER_04:Uh they just get more comfortable with being there and then they kind of start catching on here and there. It'll it'll happen. Yeah. Um, we are also doing judo again. Uh however, like sports also, like high school sports become a bit of an issue because uh he's out doing volleyball as well. So Mondays, we're probably gonna have to miss Monday judo because volleyball is 3 30 to 5, judo's 5 to 6 15. I can't do that. So then uh he'll have to go Wednesdays, Saturdays until volleyball is over. Volleyball's a short season, it's like a month and a half. So do they do wrestling in high school here? Uh, I don't certain schools do.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if probably not at our age, maybe his age.
SPEAKER_04:I don't if if they do, I've never noticed it at the school that we're at.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, definitely not in mine. It's K to five, so they're not doing that.
SPEAKER_04:No, it'd be like high I think it'd be like high school. Yeah, I don't know what age you start wrestling at, but I would I would assume like six, six, seven. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, anyway, he'll like it. Judo's good. I think it'll be better.
SPEAKER_02:But I honestly want to, like I told my wife, I want to I honestly want to diary because we he's he's this the normal, I think normal 10, 11 year old boy. He's just kind of negative about things and is kind of like, no, leave me alone, that kind of thing. And I'm very curious, I want to diary his emotions because I guarantee we'll see a change in him just because of this. I feel I really hope we do. Maybe, but we'll see.
SPEAKER_03:I think you can't put too much expectation on that. No, but he's put as much much expectation as that.
SPEAKER_02:I guess I'll just at the parent. That's not fun. All right, that's what I thought Judo could just parent for me. No, you're fine. I'm fine. I think it depends on how much they buy into it, right? Yeah, we'll see. He he just he's pumped he can beat his brother up now, he says, but I'm like, okay, well, your brother's six, so good job.
SPEAKER_04:Way to go. Way to go. Yeah, I don't know. Sports just started for us. We got crazy busy now, all the rest of the like this. Like I was doing the calendar to calendar today. September's the worst. Oh, it's like this month. Every day of the weekend, practice, practice, practice.
SPEAKER_02:September's just the worst month as a parent.
SPEAKER_04:Every weekend, everything is a volleyball tournament all September. Mm-hmm. Yeah, busy. Yeah, back to school. Well, until the teacher strike, and then likely not there. It's not guaranteed, but it'll happen, probably.
SPEAKER_03:Is it happening?
SPEAKER_04:Uh yeah. My sister's sister's a teacher, and basically she's saying that likely what they'll do, and this is completely hearsay, but likely what they'll do is because of the bargaining kind of position they're in, they had 120 days to strike from June when they said they wanted to. I think they have to do it within 120 days. And she's like, well, that likely what they're probably gonna do is wait till the last day or last couple days, because then they can say, Well, we tried everything we could, versus if they did it now, it's gonna be like, well, you still have time to to make some decisions or figure this out. So that I think that's like beginning of October is when that 120 120 days is up, and they have to give uh 72 hours notice prior to a strike uh for teachers and parents. So likely, likely it won't be until end of September.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, unless something gets figured out, but gonna be weird. Yeah. It'd be like COVID, you'd just be teaching at home again. They're not teaching.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but they're not teaching. And uh, yeah, I I I don't know. I don't know how I feel about this. I understand you know, it's one of those things. I understand it, but at the same time, ah, it kind of drives me a little nuts.
SPEAKER_03:The problem is is teachers are so underpaid and overworked. But I would say also at some point money is limited.
SPEAKER_04:I would say I would say I don't know how the overworked thing is true, but the like, and I don't know when this started, but like they've kind of always done, like, as from as long as I can remember, teachers have always done work at home after hours. Which why? Like, why did they ever start doing that? Do you know what I'm saying? Like Well, I think it's because they had to, wasn't it? Okay, but had to says who? Like, so you pay me, your my job is to do this, teach these things, and now I have to mark. Okay, well, if I have to mark for three hours at home, you're paying me for that. For sure. Right? But they've never done but they've never done that, and they've never got paid for that. It's always been after hours, like doing the marking, working on the weekend. Oh, was that always kind of curriculum setting up?
SPEAKER_02:Was that always kind of included in that job? I I don't you know like way back.
SPEAKER_04:Like, did they just I don't know, but like that's the problem is they kinda at a certain point that became synonymous with teaching. If you're a teacher, well, your weekends and your nights are spent now marking, which is like that's kind of BS, because again, they're not being paid for that portion of it, right? Yeah, it is BS. Completely. The problem is they've always done it, and so it's like it's like they got at some point it's like, no, we're not doing this anymore, or you're gonna compensate us somehow for the pay for that, which again, how do you calculate how much time like that's a like that's a that would increase the the budget by whatever, an insane amount.
SPEAKER_03:But that's I think that's more so the system isn't working, right?
SPEAKER_04:So the that's the problem though, and I the sis so the system is screwed because it's always been screwed in terms of like you're not getting paid for your little work that you're doing. But then the other problem I think is when you're talking about a provincial level thing, it's very different, like the school that we're at, maybe some of the things that they they some issues they have there could be very, very different and is very different than a school in downtown Calgary, right? Where they might have a classroom of 50 kids and one teacher, which obviously is insanity. Um, so their problem is like a student to teacher ratio, which I think is a general problem everywhere, but I think it's like it's difficult. How do you have a bargaining for all of teachers everywhere in the whole province when there's not equal issues everywhere in the province in schools, right?
SPEAKER_02:If I find I don't know how they do that, and all their administrative support is run by like another association, so their teacher's assistant, their educational assistants, they're administered, it's all another association. And so a lot of those issues stem from there not being like TAs, EAs in the classroom, but like again, it's it's another job, like you so it's causing a lot of backlog on them when it's another association's fault for not fighting for staffing levels as well. There's so many mess.
SPEAKER_04:There's so many problems. Yeah, and then the idea that like, and the other problem is you'll have people because there's no consequence to actions for kids anymore. So, for example, if you fail a test or you fail a grade, like I don't think it's possible to fail a grade almost anymore. That's that's the point. So, like you're pushing through kids so who maybe don't have the ability to do say grade six work, they just they can't do it for whatever reason, what whoever, whatever, doesn't matter the reason. They could not do it, but you push them through to grade seven because that's what you do. Now, grade seven teacher has to deal with the spectrum of kids who are probably almost too smart for grade seven because of whatever, just natural ability, or they're really they work really well. And so the grade seven is like boring because there's nothing challenging them, and they're struggling to even just pay attention, and then you have the other side of the spectrum where you have these people can't read, and like that's that's not that's not like out that's not even like hyperbole, like where there's kids who are in grades where they should have been reading for years and years and years, and they can't read anything or very, very few little things, and so then how as a teacher, how do you manage that classroom? Yeah, but that's the one size fits all, it doesn't work, sure. So then and I don't know if this is even being addressed. It just to me it seems like this is the crazy thing about about teaching is how what's the solution to that?
SPEAKER_02:They're not looking at any restructuring at all, it's just wages and overwork benefits, all that kind of stuff. The normal stuff that you do in a contract negotiations, they're not looking at restructuring.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I think it's like you're just committed to the like the this is the way that we do it because this is the way that we've always done it. Yeah. Versus saying like this isn't working.
SPEAKER_04:No, but it isn't because in the past you would fail kids. If kids were not could not do the work, they would not be moved on. Yeah, but and and so at least at least you had in like the levels of work that could be completed in one class. Like if you you're in grade eight, the expectation is you're at a grade eight level for these things. But now it's like there that's just another thing on top of everything you have to deal with.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and then I mean maybe divert the kids that can't meet that level out into something else. Right. What though?
SPEAKER_02:Because and I and I agree with and I agree with you, but like bring the bring the short bus back to the different school is that we're talking like if you can't say hypothetically you can't read and write at grade eight, like I'm sure there are kids that are the that that is a reality.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, bro, you're probably not gonna be a doctor. Um I don't know. Like teach them how to stuck them.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like is uh yeah, but I think that's an extreme example. But maybe they should be moved into a different area with a bunch of people. Like, do they still have classes like that? Like when we were growing up, yeah, they do. There's like not a like that was more of a special ed class, though.
SPEAKER_03:They do in high school. Like I know in high school that gets very clear.
SPEAKER_02:Like a remedial options, like a remedial class or an option, or like options.
SPEAKER_03:Like you're gonna take like applied math, or you're gonna take whatever the math I should have called.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, pure applied.
SPEAKER_03:Right? Like, hey, you're probably not gonna be an academic. Let's divert you into the trades.
SPEAKER_04:And they're doing like my my daughters started grade 10 this year, and that's what they definitely do. So they they're there's like different streams of things. However, there's but there's also life skills one. Like she's doing one right now where the teacher's teaching them how to like build a like a section of a wall, and then they're gonna put electric like no way. Oh sorry, I can't say speaker now. Electrical, what am I trying to say? Electricity. They're gonna wire it. They're gonna thank you. They're gonna wire the wall. Oh, that's cool. And then they're gonna stucco it, and then they're gonna punch a hole through the stucco, and then they're gonna fix it. No, not stucco. Oh my god, I'm a problem today. Drywall. They're gonna drywall it, then they're gonna punch a hole through the drywall, then they're gonna fix it. So like it's good. Like they're teaching like just kind of some basic skill stuff. So that's like an options class. And that should be standard though.
SPEAKER_03:It should be, but it also should be. I mean, we've talked about it. But that's on the parents as well. We've talked about this ad nauseum, is at no point in our education did they teach me how to save money. Right. Nope. Or how to like pay attention to the money that I was coming into my bank account. Uh so like life skills. I don't know what life skills are we teaching. I I could fucking sew a mean stitch though. Yeah, good job. Yeah. Can you still? Um yeah, like it's not great, but I can passable. I can make it work. Home egg was my favorite. I fucking loved home egg. Oh, it was the best because you always made stuff.
SPEAKER_02:You did the sewing. Yeah, you'd eat it. Um, but my wife did a practicum that was like grade four, and like seven of the kids, or six or seven of the kids couldn't write their own name. That's crazy. And it was like, what? Like, I don't understand how that is a thing.
SPEAKER_03:How old is a kid in grade four?
SPEAKER_02:Uh nine, ten? No, is that right? Yeah, nine, like nine or ten.
SPEAKER_03:Can't think of it. What age do kids start grade one? Six. Six. Oh, that's so long. So far long. Five or six?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, five or six. They start kindergarten like four or five, and then yeah, grade one, five or six. Kindergarten. That's a weird German word that is just stuck right now.
SPEAKER_04:Where are you? Where are you? I guess we don't talk about that here. Never mind. Where we I was gonna say, where are you? Guys gonna go to school. I have no idea. The town or the city? He's gonna start his old school.
SPEAKER_03:Whatever school will pick up my children in the front of my house. Probably the town is my guess. Yeah. Nice. Because they pick up my neighbor's kids literally at the front of their house. So it's perfect.
SPEAKER_04:And I think honestly, I think a small school in town would be better.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, generally, right? Uh or in the in the in like uh if there was like a Hutterite school where you could just learn to farm. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:You're not a Hutterite.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think they're gonna let you go there. I think they'd still take me. No.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:He's got the look. He could pull it off. You put a hat on him. Yeah. I feel like he could he could present.
SPEAKER_03:My last name's Holfer.
SPEAKER_02:Well, yeah, you yeah, you kind of ruined it there, but that's fine.
SPEAKER_03:I could it could work. Do you speak German? Uh, I can say kindergarten it. Kindergarten. I can't even say kindergarten. I can't say anything today.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you're really off. Can we have can we have a quick quick conversation about this? Not to go at nauseum, not to go at nauseum about what is it, Atlas III, that comet that's coming to work? I don't even know what you're talking about. You don't know this? This is what we're maybe we shouldn't. Maybe we shouldn't because I feel like he's gonna full send. No.
SPEAKER_04:There may be aliens coming to Earth right now. Is this the one that Avi Loeb was talking about? Yes.
SPEAKER_03:No, it's not.
SPEAKER_04:Who? There's there's more information now, there are better pictures.
SPEAKER_02:And there's so much like fake information too. Yeah. Like I watched it. Okay, well tell me. I watched an AI video of Neil deGrasse 2. No, it's just I I am gonna are you gonna butcher it or am I gonna butcher it? Well, something's gonna be a good one.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not butchering anything because I don't know enough about it.
SPEAKER_02:So all I know is that around October this this year, there will be a comet that they have found that is hurtling its way towards Earth's orbit. It's gonna pass Earth on the opposite side of our orbit in like October of this year. So we're gonna be the farthest away from it, right? And from what I've read, there's a possibility that they see lights coming from it. It's emitting only carbon dioxide, and it is slowing and speeding up, and so it's not a consistent speed. The rest of it is honestly fake information from different websites. But NASA, I think, has a couple articles about it and they says those type of things.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think they do.
SPEAKER_02:And so the other thing is that I'm starting to really go down the rabbit hole. I'm like, well, what would I do if I was like the president of the United States and I knew this was gonna happen? I would stalk my National Guard inside the biggest cities in the States, New York, Chicago, Detroit, stuff like that, Washington, which he is currently doing under a false pretense. Stopping crime just to get the National Guard in place for in a couple months when things go off the rails and we realize it's an alien spaceship. But that's just me.
SPEAKER_03:It's not an alien spaceship.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. All right.
SPEAKER_04:Kenneth, you heard it here first. It's not an alien spaceship. I apologize.
SPEAKER_02:That's literally all I know. Those three facts are the only things that I can find that's like confirmed. Everything else is just nonsense people posting randoms.
SPEAKER_04:I have more information, but uh it's confidential, and I can't uh I can't divulge that to you right now.
SPEAKER_01:Nice grush callback.
SPEAKER_03:Good job. Podcast with Joe Rogan and David Kipling from a few weeks ago. He talks about this comet.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03:And I'm because he's a smart, he's a cosmologist or whatever they are. Uh like an astronaut? No, that would be an astronaut.
SPEAKER_02:Well, the Neil deGrasse Tyson guy.
SPEAKER_03:No, he's an astrophysicist.
SPEAKER_02:What's a cosmologist? Is comets? Like, or do they do makeup? No, that's a cosmetologist. Well then I don't know. Just what did he say? Did he talk about it? Because I'm super curious for any information that's legit. He did.
SPEAKER_03:Essentially, what he said is he talked about the carbon emissions from it, and he talked about the light, and I can't remember verbatim what he said, but the the gist of it was it's just a comet.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, cool.
SPEAKER_03:Well, then I'm not worried. Yeah. And then he shit talked to Neil deGrasse Tyson, which makes me happy because that guy's a fucking knob. Have you listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with um I might it was more alien talk? Is it recent? Yeah. I was going to because I saw I saw a post about it, but I haven't listened. Uh Gary Nolan. Nope. You should definitely listen. Okay, well. He talks about. Have you heard of the three fingered creatures that were like found in Argentina?
SPEAKER_04:Uh I think I have heard of this. No. Was it like the ship like they found a ship?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know if they found a ship. But like did he everyone? Like a boat died.
SPEAKER_04:Did everybody die who tried to who went to like help them?
SPEAKER_02:No, that was a different one. Okay. Uh it's like a boat ship or like a like a flying ship. Like a flying saucer.
SPEAKER_03:The one you're talking about, I actually think that was in South America, right? Like they found this thing crashed and then he carried one of them to the hospital. They died of some weird illness. And then he had like a bacteria or something that couldn't be treated.
SPEAKER_02:Well he carried an alien to a hospital?
SPEAKER_03:Hypothetically.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Was this around the time of cell phones? Because they'll be a pitcher. No.
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_02:Of course that sucks.
SPEAKER_03:Anyways. Animal tridactyl creature. Anyways, so this David uh this or this Gary Nolan guy, he's super smart. He's a PhD in immunology and whatever. Like that's his day job at Stanford, it's like science, but then he like likes other stuff. Students. And he basically he talks a lot about how some of the stuff, how it's like he wants to DNA test these things, but if they're not willing to DNA test it, like he's not willing to give an opinion on it. But he's like, it seems weird, and I have the technology to do the DNA testing, so they need to like let me do this. Um you should listen to it.
SPEAKER_04:It's really good. I've been watching uh Alien Earth on Disney. Oh yeah. Have you seen it? No. Do you did you like the Alien movies?
SPEAKER_02:I like the Alien series.
SPEAKER_04:Never seen Alict? No, of course not. For a guy who loves sci-fi.
SPEAKER_02:You would love these.
SPEAKER_04:What is wrong with you?
SPEAKER_02:I just they're all good.
SPEAKER_04:There's Alien 1, 2, 3, and then there's the newer ones. There's uh Prometheus. Which is good. I don't care what you're saying. Uh there's another new one that that leads into this this year.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, not insurrection. It's yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_04:So there's a movie before this show where it's all on a ship. It's basically a research research vessel that is uh collecting alien artifacts uh from around the world and then they're coming back to Earth. However, things go wrong. Romulus? Yeah, is that right?
SPEAKER_03:That's Star Trek.
SPEAKER_04:No, no. I think there's an alien rom yeah, you might be wrong. I think it's an R something. Anyway, but the end of that movie kind of ends with just chaos, and then Alien Earth is a TV series on Disney Plus. That is I'm really liking it. It's interesting. Uh, but basically it takes off where that movie ends and moves into this TV show. And it's super cool. There's some just some cool ideas in it. Like there's kind of the there's the obviously humans, but then there's like synthetic people that they've just figured out how to make. So they took like they took these kids who are dying of illnesses and put them into these synthetic bodies. So they're basically their whole brains transfer over to these bodies, but these bodies are like superpower, all these things, like really fast, really strong. Um, but they're kid minds, so it's hilarious because they're acting like kids, like they're just like it's it's pretty funny. And then there's cyborgs uh who are like made anyway. It's a real I'm really liking the show. It's neat.
SPEAKER_03:I don't have time to watch the show because I'd have to catch up on all the backstories.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, honestly, you you can the two I would say is uh you don't have to go back to Alien 1, 2, 3. I would go to Prometheus was interesting because it kind of talks about like planet seeding, which is like an interesting idea of how life started and shows kind of what the it's kind of neat. And then this this this one leading into this movie, it just would help. You wouldn't have to watch it, but it would just help with kind of understanding uh what's on that ship.
SPEAKER_03:But I want it to be I'd like I want this comment to be a thing with aliens. I guess you don't have too much going on. There's no chance that they have good intentions. Well, I don't say there's zero chance, I think there's low chance.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, but if we if we are exploring it, if we would have found life, we would have had good intentions. That's what we do, what are you talking about?
SPEAKER_04:Like initially good intentions, and then we fucking we find out that they're sitting on it'd be like it'd be like the the show Avatar. We feel like that we find out they're sitting on some plutonium that we decided we needed, and so we need to mine it.
SPEAKER_02:It starts nice and then it slowly turns into like it's just destroying them and putting them in comics. Yeah. Uh there's another good show on uh Prime called Hunting Wives. I don't know if you're watching it. Uh but uh but I had to apologize to more people. Why?
SPEAKER_04:I finished watching the season.
SPEAKER_02:You did? Yeah, it's done.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:All right.
SPEAKER_02:Have you seen it? No.
SPEAKER_04:Uh you should watch it.
SPEAKER_03:You should watch it with uh your wife. I'm not going to. Okay. I'm gonna go blow my nose holes. I'll be right back. Both the holes.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. But no, we haven't finished. We're on episode four, and it's it's it's filthy.
SPEAKER_04:Sure, but like, yeah, it is, but in the end, it's actually the first I found the first like four episodes where like they got all of it out on the front end. Oh, that's we're on four. We just got down four. And then like And less Yeah, there's less like nakedness. Yeah, the rest of it, and it's kind of the story continues. I mean it's not there's still a little bit, but not the story. It is, and it was just a I don't know. We it was fine. The yeah, it was okay. I'm I'm liking the new terminal list right now, though. The Dark Wolf or whatever.
SPEAKER_02:We're only episode like three or four, but well we fin we finished episode one of Peacemaker last night.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, I haven't watched it yet.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, they're doing it, they're I'm just gonna let you know, just to wrap your head around it, because I had to explain it to my wife. They're doing a multiverse thing, but there's the way they set up episode one of season two, including the intro dance, it's just perfect. Everything about that show is perfect.
SPEAKER_04:You are have you have so obsessed.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know what it is.
SPEAKER_04:You're obsessed with that show. And uh I watched the first season, but I don't remember it well, so I might rewatch it before I watch the second season.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know. That's fair.
SPEAKER_03:You are a sci-fi freak, you would like Alien. I know. Well, if there's a book I could read, I would read it. Shut up.
SPEAKER_01:Is it based off a book?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I think it was like a Michael Crichton book or something like that. Yeah, I don't know. Jurassic Park. It's not it's just fiction, though. It's not I want to read real shit. You like science fiction? No, I do. Sorry, I didn't know. I'm so confused. It's like I know that you like science fiction. I do, I do. I I don't want to sit down and watch TV about this stuff when I could like listen to podcasts about real life about this stuff.
SPEAKER_04:We watched but we but sure, accept that. Uh it's all hearsay. All of this stuff that we hear about these aliens can neither confirm nor deny. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:We watched cool runnings last night with the family. It is, but there are well, I just remember it's Jamaican Bobsled team. Yeah, there is a lot of racial undertones there. Because it's like the the white people own Bobsled, they're not letting him in. And there the movie is about it's like a remember the Titans kind of thing. And my kids picked up on that a little bit and they had some questions.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I mean that movie's from what, like the early 90s.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but I didn't I don't remember the uh the Remember the Titans kind of vibe to it, but it's it's in there pretty hard, and we like my daughter's eight, she's like, Why did they not let him into this? And why are they saying this stuff? I'm like, Oh, that's you don't know what this is yet.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, which isn't that movie filmed in Calgary?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it was awesome. The majority was at the Olympic Park and all that stuff, right? Actually, really good. Like I was I was like, I forgot how good of a movie this was. But yeah, they had some, they had some qu my five-year-old didn't know what was going on, but uh the daughter had some questions about people. Like, why why are they so racist? Yeah, like why why do they not let them in? Is it because they look different? I'm like, holy, this this movie just blew up, or like we had a good conversation after about it, and like yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It's funny how some of those old movies, like you don't see at the time you didn't see some of the things in it, and you'll watch them now, you're like, We I think we have as a society advanced in certain ways, like in terms of how we see people and how we view like view people, like especially it's super obvious when you watch movies from like the 80s or even the seven like 70s, 80s, 90s, where you're like, oh wow, you can't say that anymore. And like, it's a good thing, like it's like, yeah, that was stupid. Like, why would they say that? Um, and so and like when the kids start watching those, they're like, What was that about? I'm like, That's just how people were. I don't know what to tell you.
SPEAKER_02:But then when I watched it the first time, I was really young, so I bet I never picked up on that.
SPEAKER_04:I don't you we probably wouldn't. It was just normal.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, my wife and I are like, Do you remember any of this? She's like, No, I don't. I'm like, Yeah, this is crazy.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's interesting. My child has been uh my 12-year-old has uh he wants to watch horror movies all the time now. Yes, that's cool. So weird. I and I hate horror movies.
SPEAKER_01:What do you start him off with at 12?
SPEAKER_04:So my so my d my wife's been watching uh she watched I I know what you did last summer.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, don't don't that's not him. That's not that's not 12. No, he watched it.
SPEAKER_04:And it wasn't that apparently it's not that bad.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I can't remember that well.
SPEAKER_04:And Scream they watched the other night while I was running.
SPEAKER_01:That one's got some stabby. Yeah, but uh yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. That's gonna be a fun phase. So I'm uh but I'm not I'm like the old Freddie Cougar ones, even we haven't we haven't gone that far back because they're they're not they're not violent, like the the effects are so bad, it's not like super violent.
SPEAKER_04:They are but those ones, so like I think like I noticed you last summer in Scream, there's no like nudity in those ones, but like some of the old like Friday the 13th, yeah, like uh just there were boobs for the sake of boobs in there, right?
SPEAKER_02:Of course. That's that's really ruin it for me, too, is those because we were trying to I was trying to find a good Van Dam food movie to show my oldest ones, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But they're all had they all have boobs for no reason. You think your mess hasn't seen boobs? Well, he yeah, but not with his dad. He's not sitting there watching it with his dad. He's not hunt watching Hunting Wives with his dad.
SPEAKER_02:But uh don't know. But so there's not there's Street Fighter uh for a Van Dam movie, but besides that, all the Van Dam movies have random like there's one called The Quest? Yeah, so that's that one's rated PG, and that is the first one on our list. That was a good one because it's the only one that's so many hours of your life.
SPEAKER_04:What? Watching TV. Yeah, I grew up watching movies.
SPEAKER_02:I plan, I spend a lot of time planning things, and we movies are a big deal in our house.
SPEAKER_04:Not TV, but movies. Uh The Quest was a it's a good, it's basically like they take all the best martial arts from the world and around the world, and they get called to come to this one play. Super original, original Mortal Kombat. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It is Mortal Kombat. It is essentially Mortal Kombat, yeah. But it's like PG.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. It was a good time. I can't wait. You're just reliving nostalgia with your kids.
SPEAKER_02:But the thing is, they really like it. Like they they like these movies, like and they get pumped for them, which is nice because there's no good effects in them, and they're all just corny. Yeah, take them to all the Rambos. Oh, yeah, we're we'll we'll get we'll get there. That that's uh I feel like there's a weight.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think there's any nudity in those ones. I think there's like obviously would you rather nudity or killing? Like, what's worse for your kid to be seeing? Well, it's a good question, really.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:I feel like at this point, nudity is more impressionable for like 12-year-old boys. 100%. Like killing, they see it all the time. Like like no, like they see like but like to be honest, like call it like any video game, there's gonna be someone getting shot, or like it's kind of like I think that's detached a bit more, or even like um Disney movies, like somebody's always dying, or yeah, they just don't show that.
SPEAKER_02:They've got the camera, they'll move or whatever, right? But like some of these movies like Commando with Schwarzenegger, like people are getting shot.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And they're showing them get shot, I feel like I'm like, yeah, it's not there yet, I feel. Maybe I'm too sheltered.
SPEAKER_04:And for me, it's like uh he plays Call of Duty and like not like and not that I haven't let him play the campaign modes yet, because like there seem to be a bit more like uh adult in terms of language and content. But the multiplayer, he plays uh Mortal Kombat. He's been playing Mortal Kombat a lot. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Just turn the fatalities off, it's okay.
SPEAKER_04:No, that's the best part. That is the best part. Do kids play like Roblox and stuff like that? Minecraft.
SPEAKER_03:Everybody plays Roblox. I should they do, eh? Literally every child. What is not my house? I've never I like I think I've seen it maybe like.
SPEAKER_04:So Roblox is different. So Minecraft's different than Roblox. Roblox basically people can make game modes. So the there's no specific game mode. There's like anything you can think of from a game perspective, it could be in Roblox. You could have like a Call of Duty style Roblox, or you could have like a who wore it best, like do like design and outfit kind of thing. It's like endless, it's endless, and that's where people are making money on in Roblox is their content creation. So you can create like a map or a game, and if people play it, you get paid for that. Um so it's like essentially uh I mean the the thing I don't understand why kids like it so much is because the graphics are blah, they're square people with square heads, with like I just don't understand why they love it so much, but they do. Um but yeah, so many people and Minecraft specifically like building worlds and stuff, and I think there may be some game modes involved in that, but yeah, uh you have to have like the different versions.
SPEAKER_02:Like we we have a Minecraft education, which is nice because it's it's like a G-rated Minecraft, so you can't like do anything, you can't like blow animals off.
SPEAKER_04:Why would you want to blow up a sheep?
SPEAKER_02:I know, but like no for like my five-year-old or six-year-old, but then uh the other kid, I we're running into it right now. We're we're just in it, and it's not good. And he is 11, and all of his friends have phones, and like I picked him up from a birthday party yesterday at the Coliseum, the laser tag place or whatever, pick him up, walking away, hey, and the one the one kid's like, Yeah, well, I'll tell you guys in the group chat about that other thing. And he's like, Landon, I'll I'll send you a Facebook messenger thing. I'm like, Oh, he's that kid, because he doesn't have Snapchat, so he's not in the group chats. My daughter still doesn't have Snapchat.
SPEAKER_01:Oh man, like what do you I I don't know what to do.
SPEAKER_02:Um I'm starting to feel so fresh.
SPEAKER_04:We're getting like the end of my contract with TELUS ends up here in this month, and I'm gonna switch to Rogers and we'll we'll be getting my kid a phone, my 12-year-old.
SPEAKER_02:You're 12 Kate. That's that's what that's what my wife said. My wife says 12 years old. Grade seven.
SPEAKER_04:So we started grade seven. That's when that's when our daughter got one. Uh, because she starts going to like a tournament and stuff, like away from school, and just uh it's weird, but like it's it literally he's probably the only guy in his class right now who doesn't have one.
SPEAKER_02:We're gonna we're gonna get we have a spare phone at home, we're gonna call it the family phone, and we're just gonna sign it up. And if we'll leave it at home, if we go do something, but then like it won't be his phone, but if he goes to do something, he could take it and try it.
SPEAKER_04:But I I still don't want to have him Snapchat and stuff, but it's just no, so Snapchat, so you know like my daughter, she's got we let her get Instagram, but again, we have to she has to let us follow her and see who she's following, all those things. Um, and I think I can't remember what else she has, but like we the Snapchat we haven't given her. I'm not I'm not ready, I'm not equipped for this. You have lots of years, don't worry. And by then it won't even be.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, no, by then it'll be like seven.
SPEAKER_04:By the time there's seven, they've got implants. You just put implant in your child's brain.
SPEAKER_02:Then you're good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:You don't I kind of want is those like meta glasses. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And then you could just like vlog your day. You could like video record, or something's being a tool, you're like, click.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Or listen to music. They're not quite well. I thought that they would have like an augmented reality, like like in their glasses, so you could see a long time, like a HUD kind of thing. That's gonna for sure become at some point. But I I thought that that's what these would have already, but they're not quite there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's not far off.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think so. But what would you use that for? Like what productive would you use that for? Well, only if you were a trap person who traveled a lot, I think it would be hugely productive because it has translation apps in it. So basically, yeah, if someone's talking to you in whatever language and it's gonna translate for you, you can read it on your phone, talk back, and then then give it to them in the case.
SPEAKER_02:Or if you did like business, like if you were like a a I don't know, business. If you're like a business person.
SPEAKER_04:You're like a business guy, like a business guy.
SPEAKER_02:Like a business suit, like who needed to look at charts and walk around and automatically respond like that.
SPEAKER_04:Making deals, talking on your phone.
SPEAKER_03:You needed to look at charts.
SPEAKER_02:If you weren't I don't I don't know what business people do. I know PowerPoint, it's not what we do, but uh PowerPoint presentations. Because I know like I don't use my VR headset for anything productive, but I will buy the next one when it comes out immediately. Because it's just the best.
SPEAKER_04:Do you you have this not the net which one do you have? Uh the two. Yeah. Yeah. We have still the original, it's not working so well anymore.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm upgrading as soon as it comes out, I'm upgrading. I love playing games on there. It is so much fun. Nothing productive, nothing that has made my life.
SPEAKER_03:I feel like I'm becoming a Luddite. Like I just resist all of these things. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I like I just too many things. I feel in general, like possession stuff, like so like having things for having things, I'm less like that. Like I'm more like, why would I buy that? I don't need it. Uh however, when it comes to like technology, I love to I don't know why. So like I'm gonna get the new phone when it comes out. Because well, I have to get a new phone anyway, so my kid's gonna get this one, I'm gonna get the new one, and so I'm gonna get the 17. Comes out like this one.
SPEAKER_03:My 15 is obsolete.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, this is a 15 too.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, I'm not even in the teens.
SPEAKER_02:So what?
SPEAKER_03:iPhone 9.11. That's in the teens. Is it? I don't know. Is teens start at 13?
SPEAKER_02:I think teen would start at 13 and not include 12 because 12 is not 12. Do you know you know what a teen is, right?
SPEAKER_03:But if you say I have a teenager, 13. 13, because it's in the just a weird segment. Wow. No, like it's I feel like anything between 10 and 20 is in the teens. No. No. 10, 11, 12, not teens. Okay, whatever.
SPEAKER_02:It's like saying 2001 is not in the 90s. Sorry.
SPEAKER_03:That's not the same. I feel like it's exactly I feel like somebody out there would agree with that. No one's gonna agree with you. 13 is the teens.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So yeah, 12 is the age for the phone. I think it's my wife. But I'm I'm I'm being guilted to the twitching my mind, and my wife isn't. She's hardlined on it, so I need her support because we stuck to it. I just want to get him on. I do, I feel I can see him missing out on social opportunities, and it's kind of driving.
SPEAKER_03:But like those are the social opportunities that aren't gonna be developmental or or productive. What?
SPEAKER_01:Like, yeah, you know, I I see what you mean, right?
SPEAKER_03:Like, so he's missing out on group chats with his friends or Snapchats or like but like nothing good comes from.
SPEAKER_02:No, because I read his Facebook, like they have group chats in Facebook Messenger and Messenger kids, and they are the dumbest group. Like our group chat's not that smart. Their group chat is so dumb.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, this is 100%, and this is this is very, very true. So 15-year-old, uh she has friends and talks to them all day on chat on their text messages and stuff. Hey, what's uh what's so-and-so do this summer? I don't know. What do you mean? Uh don't you talk to talk to them? Yeah, like every day. Well, like what were they doing? I I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:What the fuck are they doing?
SPEAKER_04:What do you talk about? And then uh she what's that guy's per what's that guy's story? What what are they what's it what I don't know, like just like a right, like a question you think that you're talking to people you didn't know what the answer to. They they don't talk about anything of substance at all.
SPEAKER_02:At all. And the boys I think are like are worse because they're dumber. Like his group chat is like one person will say bro, and the other person will put like some emojis, and then it's bro, a bunch of emojis, then six seven for some reason, and then a bunch of emojis. Is that seven?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, it's like the fuck off.
SPEAKER_02:And then just a bunch of emojis. Yeah, it's what is six seven?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I don't know. I can't keep up.
SPEAKER_04:But I walk into my daughter's room when she's on a chat with somebody and I yell 6'7. You do it? Yeah, what are they doing? I don't know what it means. Do you do the hand thing with it?
SPEAKER_02:Because that's like a thing. You do this with it.
SPEAKER_04:I have no idea what it means. I just yell at it because it makes it if it means.
SPEAKER_02:These are all Gen Z, right? I don't know what they are. They're what? Like our kids are Gen Z, is that right? I don't know. Yeah. There's a lot of different slang coming out now, and I I can't keep up.
SPEAKER_04:But I so like, but it's been driving me crazy because like then I talked to my kid. I'm like, well, like, what do you mean you don't know? Like, these are your friends, right? Yeah, they're my friends. Okay, how do you not have conversations about like, hey, what did you do for the summer? Or what are you guys up to? Oh, we're this week and we're going with the family, and we're gonna go do this, and we're gonna go do the stuff. Yeah, there's no substance. Like, they don't have those conversations. I'm like, I don't understand. Or something happens, I'm like, oh, how did so-and-so feel about that? She's like, I don't know. Like, what do you mean you don't know? Like, it's like seems like a pretty major event. Like, I feel like you should maybe have a like, hey, how are you doing? And like, that's not the conversations that they have, and it's actually really frightening because again, it's like they they're consistently connected in terms of they they need to have their their text. Well, well, someone texted me, I need to answer. Okay, like, is it life and death super important? Well, obviously not, because you don't know what's going on in their life at all. Like, you don't have a clue. You don't like I it just drives me crazy. Like, there's you have all these friends, but is there any substance behind the friendships?
SPEAKER_03:No, it literally says here essentially the slang term six seven doesn't mean anything. Dude, everyone's yelling at it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's some it was in a basketball or then it's a baseball interview or something.
SPEAKER_03:Teenagers are saying six seven is a reference to the drill rap lyric from the song Dute Doot 6-7 by Skrilla and to the height of basketball player Lamello Ball, who is 6'7. That does not make sense. I can't handle this. Anyway. He's got shoes. Do your do your kids are you're like hardened to the gen alpha? Is it gen alpha?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know what gen we're talking about.
SPEAKER_03:I think they're gen alpha, like the slang. Oh, alpha.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Like cooking, they're always saying we're cooking, I'm cooking it. Yeah, cooking.
SPEAKER_02:Or go goaded is well goaded's not that bad. I understand goaded. Yeah, well, we understand that, but like mid is understandable. There's a lot of different ones though, like those are the easy ones, I feel like the that we there's probably a lot more that we don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Zesty.
SPEAKER_02:What? Zesty. Zesty? I like that. Really?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, zesty. It means uh gay.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, really? Yeah, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_04:Tony's kids are the ones that I found this out from. Apparently, they were at people using Zesty. They were at that um music thing down in Montana they went to. The festival. The festival. And one of his kids, like, hey dad, there's a lot of zesty cowboys around here. Because there's all these like guys who are like a little bit too done up with like the outfit. Maybe they got like what are those called? Can he come? Can we ask Tony if he can come on the podcast? He's got his kids on here, and it's hilarious.
SPEAKER_03:We gotta talk about the words you guys are using because they don't make sense.
SPEAKER_04:They don't make any sense, and it drives me crazy. We were not like that.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, we were saying, but we were. Okay, what were the words? Uh no, because you'd say like gay and retarded and stuff like that. No, but like those like are understandable.
SPEAKER_02:Lang words that we have. There is no slang words, wicked. So I think wicked would have been like Rad. Yeah, rad. This generation's we're not that old. Come on, maybe rad. Wicked and rad, we said. Uh duh. Duh. Duh and duh. And I honestly feel like like is something our generation brought like it's totally like you know, this is like like that kind of a thing. That's just a connector phrase. I know, but I think that was I think we brought that in, and that would have been a form of 6-7 for us.
SPEAKER_04:I just don't think Yeah, but that does make sense. At least those made sense. Yeah, yeah. No, don't.
SPEAKER_02:We're too we're old, whatever.
SPEAKER_03:I think people would hear the slang that you used as a child and understand it without Yeah. Being like, what did they just say?
SPEAKER_02:I feel like here's an idea for the three of us. Let's get some rocking chairs. We'll go sit on your deck and wave at people, tell them to slow down. Shotguns in a because I feel like we're that old right now. Because it 100% happened when we were younger, and we were we were this we were that. Our kids right now, we were that.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think so. I don't think so.
SPEAKER_04:You guys not to that extreme. I and I reason the reason I don't think I reason I I truly don't think we are that is because we didn't like the influence of like social media, how every everything gets like so quickly exposed to social media.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, there's more access to these phrases, yeah, because everywhere.
SPEAKER_04:If you like if you ended up in your little town getting this phrase that came from somewhere, maybe like five years ago, it was cool in like some big city, yeah, but somebody picked it up, and then eventually maybe you're saying this dumb word. And we were always now it's like someone does one quick meme, and now all of a sudden everyone sees it on TikTok, and now it's the thing everyone's seeing because it's funny. Even like um what's the stupid Minecraft thing? Uh chicken, something chicken. Oh, uh lava chicken lava chicken. Yeah, that's a good point. Everybody, every like lava chicken becomes this thing, and now people are literally like losing their minds over lava chicken.
SPEAKER_02:So because we I grew up in like this hundred person town, and when we would go into the city for like sports games and stuff, or is that on like horse and horse carriage? No, we we drove, but get out of here, you're older than me. But then we we drove in and we would say things, and the kids from the bigger city schools would be like that's so done with. It's we used that a long time ago. So we would be behind just being a couple hours away in like a 90 person.
SPEAKER_04:Was that like when you were selling them the eggs and stuff? Okay, and like the your bundles of celery, and then they were like what what why why did this turn on me?
SPEAKER_02:I know I'm I'm I didn't grow up Ahomish.
SPEAKER_03:Like, what first time you said 90 personality? There's more people than that than the town you were from in Alberta.
SPEAKER_02:No, I I didn't grow up in Alberta, I grew up in Manitoba. Okay, I don't count it.
SPEAKER_04:On a Hutterite colony. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No, well, very close. We yeah, well, still, just because my mom taught there, doesn't so you when you're selling your your eggs and your pies. Did I grow up as a Hutterite?
SPEAKER_04:Your pies? Did I grow up as a Hutterite? Selling a rubber. Oh my god, am I a Hutterite? That'd be awesome.
SPEAKER_02:Could you imagine your parents were just a little bit more than a little bit? Oh, sorry, a hundred and we have a 175 people in that town that I grew up in. But anyway, we were we were behind the other the big city. Like we go to Brandon, Winnipeg to play, and we were behind Brandon is not a big city. In Manitoba, it's the second biggest city. Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_03:It's like I'm I went to hockey school in Brandon.
SPEAKER_04:You went to hockey school.
SPEAKER_03:You went to hockey school in Brandon?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Played hockey for like all the way to the game.
SPEAKER_03:Can you skate backwards?
SPEAKER_04:Yes. I'm actually pretty deep.
SPEAKER_03:Can you skate backwards?
SPEAKER_02:Uh yes. But it's not it's not good. Can I stop skating backwards? No.
SPEAKER_04:Can you skate? Are you a skater? A picture of being like uh Damby on ice.
SPEAKER_03:Hockey for a few years and like a giraffe learning to walk. Well, like have you seen Bambi where it's like it's not quite that bad now? Maybe I haven't skated in a decade. It would be pretty bad. You gotta take your kid out next year.
SPEAKER_02:Strap lay lace up the skates or or clip on the skates. I don't know if skates at the clip on the skate.
SPEAKER_03:Clip on the skates. Oh, it's like old school?
SPEAKER_02:I'm pretty sure your daughter is gonna have clip-on skates, not lace skates at her age. Because they have the the ones that tighten, the ratchet.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, ratcheting. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And you can get them like they just like go in the end. It looks like they're gonna break their ankles the entire time because they have no yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And you can get some that like our size like whatever, like kids are size five, and they extend to like because they just pull apart. Oh. Sweet.
SPEAKER_03:Last you several years. Hmm. Yeah, I probably should try skating again because it probably wouldn't be pretty.
SPEAKER_02:You need to relearn these basic activities so you can do them with your daughter when she gets there, right?
SPEAKER_03:That's why I'm gonna buy a bike so I can relearn how to ride a bike.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but I think riding a bike and e-biking is a little uh uh it's a different. You're gonna be so jealous.
SPEAKER_04:I am because I would love it to work one time you see him drive it into work, you're gonna be so jealous. Well, first off, you don't drive bikes. Well, it's an e-bike, so I'm Yeah, you drive an e-bike.
SPEAKER_02:You don't you're not riding anything, you're driving. Fuck you, dude. You're steering a motor.
SPEAKER_04:That's my guess.
SPEAKER_03:I just wanted you guys to share in something with me, and it's just hurt me with it.
SPEAKER_04:I I hope that you I my wish for you is that you buy it, you love it, and you use it all the time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I hope so too. Good. Just like your cold plunge. Good.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's gone.
SPEAKER_03:What's your new what's gonna be your new like thing when now that you've got ultra marathoning? Um If you need a thing.
SPEAKER_04:I'm currently still obsessed with investing. I'm just waiting for that paycheck every two weeks so I can put more money in. Yeah. Um that's kind of all I'm thinking about right now these days. Uh I'm gonna like I'm looking forward to getting back uh to getting beat up in the Matt Room. I can't wait to punch you in the face. I'm not gonna fight with you. I don't want to fight with you.
SPEAKER_03:Come on, just a little bit.
SPEAKER_04:And uh I don't know. I'm yeah, I'm gonna drink some wine tonight. Yeah, treat yourself. Yeah. Do you work tomorrow? I do. I'm not gonna drink that much wine.
SPEAKER_03:Just a little bit. Yeah. New batch of uh nursing home attendants? Next next week, not this week. Okay. Can we talk about your audition? My what? Audition. No. No. My what?
SPEAKER_02:He had to audition at the podcast, so we that's how we let him on, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, what do you mean? Like you're confused, like I'm what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I couldn't Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like, are we not supposed to talk about this?
SPEAKER_04:No, because I don't have any idea of what's gonna go on with it. Well, can we talk about the exciting thing going on in your life? Isn't that not what the purpose of this podcast is for? If and when something happens, we'll talk about it. I agree with that. If it doesn't, then we'll we can talk about it not happening too. But until that time. Sorry, I'm just looking for things to talk about.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna cut this out because this is a stupid conversation. No, don't cut this out. Our entire podcast is a stupid conversation. What like what about this part makes it different?
SPEAKER_02:I think you should cut it out. I don't I don't want to jinx it. It sounds weird. I don't want to jinx it. I just want to let it sit jinx if it happens.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, there's a stupid word from our childhood. Jinx? Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's a was that wouldn't you talk at the same time?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, jinx, you want me a coke? Yeah, that's right. Did anyone actually ever get somebody a Coke?
SPEAKER_04:No, no. I I think I'm out a few Cokes. Would you rather go back in time and get Coca-Cola stock when it came out or Bitcoin when it came out? Bitcoin. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:What? Well, because I could buy like 10,000 Bitcoin.
SPEAKER_02:Probably Bitcoin because I could pull my earnings out without the government knowing that I made money. Confirmed. I mean, no, I would never do that.
SPEAKER_03:They'd still want to know where that came from. No, they don't find out. Especially because you can just pay for things in Bitcoin. Like, hey, I'd like to buy this Bugatti. Can I send you some Bitcoin? Like, you're fine, you're good to go.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:What is it going to be?
SPEAKER_04:It's like someone's going to come audit, see how audit you if you're making$60,000 a year and driving a Bugatti.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but how do you you're just all you gotta do is pull it out through those. Yeah, but if you use a non-SIN numbered app for your trades to put it into your wallet, they can't sell. Just do it.
SPEAKER_04:Still, there's still still an issue when they come and say, look what your assets are, and you're oh yeah, I have a two million dollar car.
SPEAKER_02:CRA has the ability to do that to somebody like us.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, to someone like us for sure. To like themselves, no. Oh, that's a good point. Did you just see I just saw a thing where like all of those SERB fraud, they're just like meh, and they just washed it all. Do they really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Including the people at CRA that were giving Surbs?
SPEAKER_04:Millions and millions of dollars. Fuck. But if you don't claim a hundred dollar thing, they're coming after you, don't worry.
SPEAKER_03:And this is perhaps why I want the comet to have aliens on it. Because like this is bananas. It's insane. Yeah. And it doesn't. Just be full frankly fairly. I would say you would not know that. I would say on a balance of probabilities.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, but I think there's someone out there knows. Right? Someone out there knows.
SPEAKER_03:Well, what do you mean, someone out there knows? Well, I think honestly, I'm like, hey, someone out there knows.
SPEAKER_02:Do you not see a little bit of coincidence and a little bit of like logic behind it? I have, and I went down just because I saw this thing, like the next you're gonna be telling me that the lady flying the helicopter flew it into the airplane on purpose. She might have the process of I just feel like him, him, Trump putting the National Guard in different cities right now is preparation for this asteroid coming close because people are gonna freak out in the ass national guard. I know, I know.
SPEAKER_03:I I will go back and listen to how retarded this sounds. We'll cut my uh we'll cut my uh Like you actually think Trump Trump, you first off, you sound like my parents and you're like, oh my god, guess what Trump did?
SPEAKER_02:No, but I mean like yes, I I do think it would be if I was the president and I knew this was coming, I would love to have my military within and embedded in my bigger cities before the news broke. No, but they're there. You think it's going to be Washington?
SPEAKER_03:Like you think like that's the place? Oh yeah, they have to go to Washington, D.C.
SPEAKER_02:Washington, New York, Chicago, Detroit, all the places that the big cities that he's putting the National Guard, I feel like that would be a good move.
SPEAKER_03:Cities are shitholes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_03:All right.
SPEAKER_02:I know, but they are 100%.
SPEAKER_03:Like, frankly, if I'm if I'm aliens writing in on a comet, I'm going to like fucking Dubai or something.
SPEAKER_02:Can you at least admit if you were the president of the United States, you would want your military in these big cities if there was an alien invasion?
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_02:No. To control population or areas. If it's an alien invasion, enforced curfews, all right. Do you uh anyway, moving on. Switching a little bit.
SPEAKER_04:Please go. Trump brought this up. No, okay, never mind. Uh do you think as a school teacher, it is very important that you present a unbiased view of the world? Yes. Yes. Okay. Why? Because my daughter's social teacher uh cannot do that. And I I'm like at the point where I might have to have a conversation with the principal on it. Because like it's it's so bad. Like he he is like so anti-Trump everything that like he's pr he's like showing he showed a picture the other day to in the class of um Trump and his wife, and then in the background, there's his wife is standing beside Justin Trudeau, and Trudeau looks like he's like almost giving her a kiss, but it's like obviously a weird timing shot, and he's like, Yeah, look at this, and like, and he's like, it's so weird and over the top that I'm like, I think I'm gonna have to have a conversation. Like, because like, and then the me he posts memes with like anything anything negative towards Trump. And again, I'm I'm not necessarily pro or for a lot of these things. It's just like as a teacher, I feel like you want to like promote critical thinking. And so if you want to talk about tariffs, because that's he's big about just screaming about tariffs. If you want to talk about tariffs, you just have to have to be like, okay, yes, those are a thing. Let's figure out what are they, what positives are they, what can be negative about them, and you try to present like I feel like that's what you do if you're trying to have a conversation. And then maybe you set up like an old school debate where it's okay, you guys are gonna be pro and you guys are gonna be negative, and let's have a conversation. But that's absolutely not what he's doing.
SPEAKER_03:Well, A, I think you should go burn it down with the principal because that's not good. Yeah, I agree. B, you sound like you'd be a really good social studies teacher. Thank you.
SPEAKER_04:I just think in I think teachers in general should be that. They should be very here's in sure, and they could be like, you know what? I have an opinion on this, but I want to know what you guys think from your discussion or your investigation of this, and like give them that opportunity to sort that out. But he's like, he like rails on the American policy in Trump like every single day in social class, and it's crazy. And like, again, like cool, if that's your opinion, that's your opinion. You gotta keep that out of your conversation, and like anyway, so that's he's wrong.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna have to have a conversation, unfortunately. I think you should do that.
SPEAKER_04:Put your put your red hat on. Okay, fine. Yeah, wear my red. No, I I definitely think I'm gonna it's just it's just like even last year he did it a bit, but it seems like already, and we're like a week into school, and it's like over the top more. Probably spent all summer just reading about it and losing.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and then like I I feel that that as a parent, then you're in this tricky spot of trying to like teach your kid the critical thing. Completely missing in this.
SPEAKER_04:And then so and he'll show them like the other thing he does is he he makes them watch like CNN news clips for like uh five, ten minutes, and then okay, yeah, see, this is what they're saying. And like, that is garbage. Like, and so it's in it's very interesting. Anyway, that that whole idea about uh like Trump made me think of that because this is a conversation I've been having. And so she'll come home and be like, okay, yeah, there's maybe some negative side effects to what he's doing. However, again, what he's doing is for his country. So if Canada is suffering consequences, he'd why would he care? That's not his the whole point, isn't for he's not trying to do things for Canada, he's trying to do things for them. So then you have to look it from the lens of is it good for that country? Well, again, that's up for debate, but like the fact that we we can't be pissed as Canadians that the Trumps are hurting us. The Trumps, sorry, the tariffs are hurting us because it's like the Curred. Yeah, the decision has nothing to do with us. That's his own, that's their country. It's very interesting. And so she's like, Oh, okay, yeah, that kind of makes sense. I'm like, But again, I'm not saying you like that's something you have to sort out. Like, I'm not saying it's good or it's bad. I'm saying you you can't really just look at it from one lens. It doesn't make sense.
SPEAKER_03:It scares me that we let other people educate our children. Yeah, I'm just too busy. Well, that's that's that's the problem.
SPEAKER_04:But you but I think in the past, I think in the past you trusted that the people who taught knew what they were talking about to some degree, like they they have a social degree, so they should understand the world in some broad spectrum, maybe more than you do. Um, and you know, teach. But uh again, I think you would hope that they're doing that from a critical thinking lens and have it getting them to work out for themselves. Well, is this true or is this not true? But that's not how it seems like it's happening right now.
SPEAKER_03:It's it's bananas, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Anyway, at uh I guess I schedule a meeting. Yeah, damn it.
SPEAKER_02:You gotta do it.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so before we wrap this up, okay, wrapping up. It's a new month, which means a new challenge. God damn it. Oh, I didn't even think. Can I meditate again? No. Okay. I don't give a fuck. You sure you can. Oh, but as your life, as my as my month, do as my month you want.
SPEAKER_02:Because I know it's achievable for me.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you can do whatever you want. How would you pick something hard? Yeah. So you can pay some money.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's I I do owe. I do owe something.
SPEAKER_04:Uh pick something, challenge yourself. That if that was easy for you, first of all, keep doing it. September sucks, but let's figure it out. Well, it's it's like a this this it could take ten minutes.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, you guys go first. I don't think ordering at a restaurant, I'll go last.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know. You you seem like you know.
SPEAKER_03:I have an idea. What is it? Um I was thinking of journaling every day. Why what the fuck was that? It's hard. That was it's hard.
SPEAKER_04:It is. It's not. It is. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:What if I made a list of 30 tasks that I've been putting off and every day do one of those tasks? I like it. But you gotta make that list today. That's the only thing you can't put that off. Can can like my first day be making that list because it's not working like that? No. Um, make a task list. Task one is I can't do that.
SPEAKER_03:Task two, review list.
SPEAKER_02:Task three, can be like something that could be like a five to twenty minute job, like little fixes around the house, stuff like that. Sure.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't give a yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, I'm gonna meditate and that. And oh, you're doing a double. So is that 50 bucks each? No. Well, what what did you do last month? It was it you did two.
SPEAKER_03:He hasn't done anything for months. All right. It was just you have not completed a single challenge.
SPEAKER_02:I'll do that.
SPEAKER_04:Good, yeah. Thanks. Thanks for pointing that out.
SPEAKER_02:Um for me that's tough, and I'll do it.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:You gotta have something. I don't have a clue. No, no, we're not leaving. We're gonna sit here in silence until you pick something.
SPEAKER_02:I wanna go home with my family.
SPEAKER_04:I know I want to go too. Um, it's almost four o'clock. I don't know. What what do you need in your life right now?
SPEAKER_03:Like, do you need to stretch? Do you need to think? Do you need to write? Do you need to exercise? Do you need to eat better? Do you need to drink more water? All of the above a little bit?
SPEAKER_04:No. Uh let's go with How about this?
SPEAKER_03:Because you suck at creativity. What if it just 10 days, every day you just sat down and wrote down like ten things that you wanted to like see in the world or create or make and just did that every day for 30 days? You'd have you'd be so creative. You'd have so many creative juices flowing. Like, make?
SPEAKER_04:Like, what do you mean make? I don't know. I mean make. Okay, how about this? You're doing journaling?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I'll do journaling.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I take mine back. Take mine back.
SPEAKER_04:How about we all do the same thing?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I like that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:I'll save my thing for next month.
SPEAKER_04:September or is journaling months? Uh, just like I'm gonna use the literal journaling app in my phone. Does that account? Penzu? Or is there an actual journal? There's an actual journal.
SPEAKER_02:I'll do it too. Well, are we writing about ourselves or do we write about whatever you want? Yeah, I'm gonna write about you. I'm gonna write about you 30 days. Every day. 30 days. Stupid ginger fit.
SPEAKER_03:Stupid red hair. Fucking top. It makes me angry. Awkward. Melanin. Dumb. Yeah, there's one called it's called journal. Um what's like is it like a time limit or just at the actual like you just have to purposely journal every day? Yeah, I don't think it's yeah, I think just makes purpose.
SPEAKER_02:Like minimum a hundred words. It's not much.
SPEAKER_03:No, you can't take care of it. You can't just say, like, I woke up.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I've survived another day. Let's leave it to just a good journal.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, purpose. Okay with intention.
SPEAKER_02:Purpose journal.
SPEAKER_03:Allie, you doing this? Let me know.
SPEAKER_04:And if you're listening to this and you'd like to journal with us in the month of September 2025, let us know, and then you can pay us$50 when you don't do it. Why? Just because. Because that's how we keep you accountable. Yeah, by taking your money.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you can attach pictures to your journal too. I like this.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. If you uh would like to do it with us, please hit us up. Let us know you're doing it. Uh, we accept uh money in forms of uh cash. Or Bitcoin. Or Bitcoin or Bitcoin. Thank you. All right, peace. Uh thanks for listening. Bye. Once again, thanks for listening. If you enjoyed the podcast, share it with a friend and consider heading over to our Instagram at Average Superior, checking the link in the bio, and supporting the show. Have a great night.