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The Average Superior Podcast
This show features three nursing home attendants who have realized their brains are incomplete and their bodies are always in pain. They are peasants outside the castle walls attempting to navigate a world that feels rigged while simultaneously trying to be 1000% sure about things they know nothing about!
The Average Superior Podcast
#76 - Kids Birthday Parties and Moon Landings with Jeff
Hey ALL! Thanks for listening. Jason is off with an injury so we replaced him with Jeff!!
We get into some feelings in this one and of course move into some conspiracy theories... if you've listened.. you know. Oh, and running... again.
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SPEAKER_00:Everyone feels the same way you do. What do you do right now making different things?
SPEAKER_03:You should be recording that voice because you're gonna miss that voice.
SPEAKER_02:I've had a very emotional week.
SPEAKER_03:Me too.
SPEAKER_01:Why so many emotions?
SPEAKER_02:Because it turns out children's birthdays are very sad. Happy, but sad.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Uh explain that to me. So you welcome to the podcast, by the way. We're doing it. It's already on. Talk with the mic in front of your face. Hey. How many times have you been here? This is like your tenth time.
SPEAKER_01:It feels like my tenth time, but it's not big enough.
SPEAKER_03:Uh so your child turned two. That's exciting. It was exciting. Uh, why was it sad for you?
SPEAKER_02:It feels like sand. The time feels like sand slipping through your fingers. Ugh.
SPEAKER_01:If I knew that this is what we're gonna be talking about tonight, I would not have come. Oh man. I had a rough one.
SPEAKER_03:Uh oh, I love this. Here we go.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No, it's good. Like, so I was in bed last night, um, had a beverage, and just like scrolling through the Nsta G's, and it was uh this post. It was like, by the time your kid turns 18, you've spent 95% of your time with them. And I was like, oh no, like here it comes. The panic attack is sending. Oh man.
SPEAKER_03:Just that pain, just that solid weight in your chest.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like, oh my gosh. And it is sad, you're right, because like it's this exciting thing, but at the same time, you're like, well, now it's over. Like now this benchmark of two years or whatever is past, and I won't get it back. And it's like, I hope I did enough.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we do ourselves a real disservice sometimes by giving ourselves these like very binary kind of like milestones. Like one day you're not two, now you're two, and you'll never not like you'll never go back to the other like kind of milestone. And I'm like, yeah, two years in a day makes no difference, but it's just like I was just like, well, that was fun, and I'm sad now.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, dude.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's uh and I'm here to tell you that 13 years from now she'll be 15 and you'll look back and it'll feel like you don't know where that time went.
SPEAKER_02:Do you feel the only way I can describe the way that I've been feeling in the last couple weeks is like soul crushing? Like I don't want to say grief, but just like just the realization of how quickly time is moving. Yeah. And it feels soul crushing.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know what to say. I I've been I feel off. Like I've been feeling off. It's been a row. I don't know why. I I don't feel um like myself.
SPEAKER_02:Do you think it has anything to do with your hormones or your body rebounding from your gigantic around?
SPEAKER_03:Uh I don't know. I feel like I did a lot better this year after that. I've I've definitely felt that last year. This year I haven't felt like that was a bit much of an issue, but maybe. Um I don't know. I like on and honestly, I don't want to talk about much today, but like the whole the Charlie Kirk thing like really b bothered me. Um and I don't know why. It's like it's a weird thing. It's like I knew did not know that dude. Not only that, there how he went about some things and maybe some of the his um his beliefs about certain things I would say maybe don't fully align with what I believe. But like even the more even uh I've been seeing, because obviously now the videos are everywhere, right? Of his speeches and his talks with people, and especially the ones where uh he gets misrepresented a lot by of saying like well he's spewing hate and all he hated people and all these things, and they they use like a clip of something that c that tries to demonstrate how he hated somebody, and then I've been seeing a lot of videos where like no, here's the full clip of that. Instead of here's instead of the 15 seconds, here's the 10-minute conversation that he had with that person, and it's very very different, obviously. And I I feel like the rhetoric around the him being murdered, especially by the people who are so quick to uh say like F that guy, like yeah, good for good, I'm glad. Like, I just it really bothers me because I just fully don't like he he did nothing but engaged in conversation with people who disagreed with him in a very open manner where he wouldn't back away from that, like where it's hot and that's hard, right? That's hard to have a conversation with somebody who's comes into it with like I hate you and I want to make and I want to disagree with you, like no matter what you say. And like he that was his whole position, and I think that that position of of being able and willing to sit in front of somebody who disagrees with you and try to engage in a conversation is like it's it's what we need in this world versus just the clip, like just the 10-second clips of somebody saying something taking out of context, and then you get mad and hate oh I hate that person, they're a complete waste of time, right? That's what we get, versus like actually have a long nuanced nuanced conversation about a disagreement, and sure, you might still walk away disagreeing, but you're both h you know, but you can kind of agree to disagree after you've both actually been heard in a somewhat respectful manner. You know what I mean? Anyway, I I don't know, I've just been I've been fully bothered by the whole thing, and I think it's mostly because I think what he did and what he's do what he was doing is what I think society needs more so than what we're currently doing with social media and the outrage and all that kind of stuff. And without that, and without that discourse, and without that conversation, all that all that we do have left is people getting murdered and killed because uh you're not willing to listen to them. And and your claim that what they're saying is somehow I I don't know. I don't I like that I don't know what the claim is that somehow what they're saying is so bad that they need to be murdered for it. Well, this podcast started off fucking depressing. Well, I'll see if we can turn it around.
SPEAKER_01:It's great.
SPEAKER_03:We probably will, but like I don't know what to tell you. It's just been a weird week for me because of that, I think. And um how much of that have you spent watching working on this? Honestly, I've been trying not to. I really have been trying not to, but I uh I can definitely say I'd get gone down some rabbit holes in a couple of nights with it. A whole rabbits? I know, weird, right?
SPEAKER_02:I refuse to believe it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. The weird thing for me, like I didn't know who that dude was uh until obviously the big shenanigans went on. Um but a dude at work showed me the video, and I was like, ooh, like I wish I didn't see that. And the big thing, takeaway for me was like he has young kids. Oh yeah, and one day somebody's gonna show him one of his kids that video. Like that's that's the awful thing for me. Like, yeah, I I agree people should be able to have conversations and like disagree and still have conversations. Um yeah, but just like the whole world we live in.
SPEAKER_02:The problem is I think if I'm to put myself in the shoes of the person that made the decision to do the thing, they've heard something that is so con conflicting or like just damaging to whatever their like core values and being and belief is, is that they don't have the tools to like talk about it, so they resort to this tools of like I'm gonna do this drastic thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And and so, but I I think you have to think about it like that whole the whole idea of if you could go back in time and murder Hitler. Would you? Would you? And not and then the question is like if you had to do it when they were bait, but if the question is now you have to do it when like you show up the minute after he was born. You know what I mean? Like so anyway, my point is this though, that in these people's minds who who do think that whatever that person was saying, and again it's words, but whatever they're saying is so evil that they need to stop the evil, and I'm going to do take matters into my own hand, and I'm going to do the world good. And I don't know if this is their thought process, but this is the only way I could assume that they could get to the position that they did to shoot that to shoot him, was to really feel that they're somehow doing the world a service.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. I I think you're giving in this case you're giving, what is it, Tyler Robinson?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Sure. Well fuck him. It doesn't name doesn't matter. You're giving him too much credit, I think. Maybe for that like uh kind of bigger picture thinking. Um I'm gonna take this a different direction. I'd be curious if like non-parents, I think I think that you might have to be a parent to have like like a very I don't know, I could be wrong. There is so you you you say like, oh, like what would you do? Like would you kill Hitler to like yeah, I'd kill Hitler at like 40 years old, like Hitler with a Hitler mustache, like nothing. There's no scenario where I could bring myself to do that, like if like Hitler's a child. Like literally, there's n I'd be like, I guess there's gonna be six million people dying because I can't do this.
SPEAKER_03:And that's the weird philosophical question that they always throw out out for that kind of a scenario, right? Because a human is a human, and uh yes, a human, a child human is very different than um an adult who's making informed decisions to do things, because at that point they haven't made those decisions. But it's like if you knew that it doesn't nothing's gonna change between then and there, and the history history is gonna end up working the exact same way if you don't do this, in in the end, the decision to murder him at 40 versus then is the same decision. I don't well maybe, maybe like if you look at it really. Yeah, I'm not saying that it's it's it's good.
SPEAKER_02:I'm just saying that but there's a life of childhood and upbringing and experiences and beliefs, blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, I mean if you look at it just like if that was your only choice to stop the Holocaust, like I'm sorry, I can't, I can't do it. I know it's a weird thing. I I can't.
SPEAKER_03:But I and I know that I'm probably giving too much credit to that like that thought process, but that's kind of in my head. That's that's how I I would assume someone would get to that position where they're like, hey, I have to silence this person because it's doing so much harm, uh, which is insane. But that uh you I don't know, that's gotta be where their issues are at.
SPEAKER_02:I just don't think they're I I we obviously don't know what anybody was thinking. I just don't think you could be in the spot where you're thinking about the like the the objective harm or the the the net harm that this person is doing to society as a whole or your society or whatever. I think it's just the person being like, I'm hearing things that are so conflicting with what I believe and I'm so angry about it, and I don't have the tools to talk about it, so I'm just gonna do the thing.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe and and I we can move on from this, but the one other thing we brought up that I want to talk about is like the the video thing. Like so and and this is where again I think we're we as a as a society are just going the wrong direction. So I came home that day um from work and saw that he had been murdered. Well, I he didn't say he died yet, but it was obvious to me that he had been based on that video. Um, and so I get home and I'm just like not, I'm just like off. And I'm I my wife had asked me, Did you see? And I was like, Yeah, I saw that, it was crazy. And then uh my daughter was like, Oh yeah, that video is crazy. I'm like, what? Yeah, like how do why did you see that? And I was pissed, I was angry, and I was like, Why did it's not her fault because it's just literally it was everywhere instantly. But I'm like, you should not be seeing that stuff, you cannot unsee these things. You can it can't like the rest of it, you just saw a dude get murdered, like in real time. Like, that is not something you should see at that age, in or in general, humans should really should. I mean, it is what it is if you're in a war-torn country, you're gonna see some some things, but like my child at 15 and then my 12-year-old should not be seeing that stuff. It just it but like how but how do we stop it? The the instant video to like uh live feeds on X and all the things, all of a sudden there's it was immediately everywhere. All that the video before they did anything about not showing it anymore. Yeah, within minutes.
SPEAKER_02:I'm pretty sure I saw the video within minutes.
SPEAKER_03:I think so, I think I did too. And like you think about back to when like Taliban was chopping people's heads off. Like, if you wanted to see that, you could on the internet, but you had to go find it. It wasn't like it was just like boom, social media pops you on your pops up in your feed, right? Um, this is different, and the world that we live in, like I'm I'm so I'm distraught by like just the access to to everything that is un you can't unsee that.
SPEAKER_02:And like yeah, and I think some of it, how much uh have we been desensitized, society been desensitized to that type of thing?
SPEAKER_03:Because she it didn't even it didn't even like really register. She was kind of upset wondering like why, like, well, what's uh yeah, like what's the big deal? I'm like, what do you what do you mean? What's the big deal? Like I was I was angry. She was like, like she just she almost honestly was like didn't think it was that big a deal until she saw that. I'm like, what you just watched a dude get murdered. Like, how is that not a big deal? It should be human.
SPEAKER_01:It should be a part of the thing, too, because what 12, right? She's 15. 15, yeah. Like you still don't really realize what you're watching at that point, right? Like, it took me a while to be like, oh, oh my, like, that's actually a human life. It's not just a video. And like, maybe to her, it's just a video, right? Like, there's but again, that's just a desensitization, though.
SPEAKER_03:It maybe it could be, I don't know. I mean, it's very much true, it could be true, like just like you see it on TV, yeah, and so it's like, oh, it's just it's just that, but except that it isn't.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think some of it too is the high profile ness of some of these things, that and that girl from Ukraine on this on the subway. Yeah, because I mean those type of things happen every day. Yeah, but when it's so like prevalent in mainstream, why don't you want to call them mainstream media or whatever is so prevalent in like your access to media just because it's so it's like everywhere, it's so out there. I think then it gets a lot more weight.
SPEAKER_03:And it's just it's just frustrating to me, like the you there's almost no way to stop that exposure anymore unless it's literally your child doesn't have any access to TV or any devices, which just to be fair isn't realistic if you're trying to raise a child who's got some sort of social life these days and have friends. It just doesn't it doesn't add up. I mean that's where like yeah the merits of going living in like this look like the like the Hutterites are like in some sort of communal living situation would make sense, but pros and cons. Completely uh anyway. I was just frustrated by that, and it really uh like I just don't think there's a solution to to that other than you just wish people wouldn't post crap like that, but it's just it's going to, it's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_01:That's the other thing too. Like, say you're buddy filming this, like, oh Charlie Kirk saying some words, baby, and then like you capture it on video. Yeah, it wouldn't be my instinct to be like, and over to X it goes, like away we go. They got a million views in a second. Right? Like that's being I don't know, if someone offered me a bunch of money for it, maybe I would give it to them. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I well, I I wonder, like, would you so say you punch that onto X and then just by virtue of the algorithm suddenly you have millions of views, you're getting paid for that. Yeah. Uh I think that's how it works. I don't know. But if it's violent, I I don't know. I don't like that.
SPEAKER_01:I don't like the yeah, I don't know. Because I know if you swear they demonetize your podcasts or whatever on YouTube or whatever.
SPEAKER_02:We're never gonna get monetized.
SPEAKER_01:I think it's only in the intro. I think if you you can't say swears in the intro, I don't know. I was just gonna comedian talk about it.
SPEAKER_03:There's gotta be like uh disclaimers and all that kind of stuff. Parental warning.
SPEAKER_01:Ours has explicit warning on you get sent back in time to kill Hitler and you only get one bullet because you gotta like hoop it or something, and like that's how it's like the Terminator things where we can't have metal and whatever. You got that one bullet and you accidentally kill Charlie Chaplin, and you're just like, yeah. Shucks. Fuck yeah. Go back time.
SPEAKER_02:Or you get that one bullet to go back and kill Hitler as an adult, yeah, and you miss.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like you just missed.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think you could use a bullet. Send me back.
SPEAKER_03:If you missed up. Or what if the bullet didn't do the job?
SPEAKER_01:So you use your hands?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh wow. You've really thought about this a lot.
SPEAKER_02:Straight up hands. It's like the trolley problem. Hands. It is the trolley problem. Right? Are you gonna kill what is it, one person versus like lots of people?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so the trolley problem is Yeah, it's like if you if you don't touch the switch, three people die. But if you pull the switch, one person die. That that's one person dies, but those three people live. So the question is like, would you rather just have nothing to do with it? Because it's you're an action, like you, it's not my fault. I can't choose between this or do you save three to the death to kill one?
SPEAKER_02:I think it's fascinating when you start trying to look at these decisions in hindsight, like you look at the outcomes and then you assess the the you assess the quality of your decision based on the outcome, yeah, versus the quality of your decision based. Actually, this is fucking interesting, because this is exactly what the book I'm reading is about is assessing your decision based on the quality of your decision, not on the quality of the outcome. Right. Yeah, make that which is which is how you should do it. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You would know what the outcome would be, right?
SPEAKER_02:Like it could be well, and that's like Annie Duke, that's what this book is about. It's like making good decisions based on the quality of your decisions, right?
SPEAKER_03:Like, like even if it has a bad bad outcome, is it still the right decision? Totally, right?
SPEAKER_02:So I think that would be interesting, right? Is because you could you could say, like, oh, I'm gonna kill Hitler and I'm gonna stop the holocaust Holocaust. What happens if you kill Hitler and then suddenly like Goebbels just is just that much crazier and you've made it worse, right? Right? Like, I don't know, was it a good decision? Probably. Is the outcome worse? Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Completely. Well, and uh that that decision becomes more difficult. The trolley decision when it's like, okay, cool, you say you said, Yeah, well, it's better if one person dies versus three, okay. I'll pull the trull the the lever. But now it's like now that one person is like your wife or somebody that you know, right? Now it's just now it's like, well, now it you're you're like, well, I can't pull it. Like, what do you just stop the trolley? Like, holy moly. Yeah, like where's the brakes on this thing? Are you just we just shut it down? The the so but that is where like the idea I like that the decision um argument because the same thing happens, you know, at the nursing home where you can go into a situation and it turned out fine, but everything that you did was not good. You may bad you you weren't safe, you did something else, you probably should have done this, but you didn't. In the end, everything was great. So you're like, oh awesome, see it all worked out, we're all good. But like that's doesn't mean that that's how it should be done, and you should never do it that way ever again, even though that decision, even though the outcome was okay.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and even like you look, I got spanked pretty hard on a stock pick this week. Really hard. Um, if it had worked out, yeah, it would have been like that was a great decision. It didn't work out, and so now I've been forced, like I've been I actually need to sit down and think about it really hard and be like, okay, was that a good decision just based on the decision? Right, regardless of the outcome. Right. I don't know if it was.
SPEAKER_03:I think that's a tough one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's yeah, that's even hard, like decision-wise, when it comes to something like that, because that's you could do everything like you're saying to make the right decision, but that's so out of your control, right? Like you could do research, like at least at the nursing home, we maybe have a little bit more training to how
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that just a knowledge to back your decisions there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, where like stocks is like, psych, uh, what's your next has just been selling all this crap because she's got inside info. That's right. Losers.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, I think it's interesting with like I I think that that's a huge thing is you have I think when you're when you're evaluating that, it's like how much outcome do you have or how much control do you have over the outcome based on your decision, right? So if you do things properly, uh and you know that in general the the proper doing this properly leads to the outcome that I want. So like in in general, even if it doesn't though, if it ends up being not the outcome, the the the pathway to that outcome was in my control, versus with a stock pick, it's very, very different. I think you can have knowledge about you know things that could go wrong, things the company, all this, but in the end is not in your control in either direction.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I would say that in that case, like if you look at it in a single event, like the stock pick where I I just got fucking owned. Um if I if you can repeat that nine more times and then have that ability to be like, hey, here I've made this decision based on this criteria ten times. Okay, it didn't work out one time, but it worked out four other times or something, like something, like then that might be a better way to look at it. Because you're right, like stocks are like anything, stocks are I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:It's gambling. There's a bit of luck involved, I think, right?
SPEAKER_02:And like unless you're Pelosi. That's her name. Uh that's yes. Unless you're Pelosi, and then you're just making broke millions and millions of dollars. She's just the world's best stock picker, she's better than every hedge fund ever, guys. Come on, like it's just it's normal, right? She's like a senior citizen. Go do that. Yeah. Senior citizens can be smart.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Senior citizens are very smart, and I don't think we talk to them enough about their experience.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, that's a really good point. Uh, so I I I've been I was because I've been emotional lately. I think the Instagram knows that, and they've been sending me videos that make me just want to like cry at night. And there's this one with this guy who goes around and takes pictures of people in the park, and he's like a really amazing photographer, but it's like goes and talks to like this this old dude just sitting by himself, and he kind of started asking him about his life, and you're just like, Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01:I don't like what this is.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's just it's just sad. It's just like he's like 88 years old, and he's just like talks about like he just do you is there anything in life you regret? He's like, Yeah, I of course I can't say there isn't. Of course there's things I regret in life, and um he just goes on like this this talk about a whole bunch of things anyway. But like I just it's just interesting how like again, he's said basically what he said is like hey, I yeah, I'm 88, and let me tell you, like, I feel like I'm 20. Like it's just you're in your brain, and it actually I and it's like I'm at a weird age where I'm starting to feel that way because like I'm my background now is messed up for no reason and I don't know why. And it's like you're like, I don't know, I don't know what happened between the last 20 years, or even like going to watch my kids' volleyball. I'm like, oh yeah, I I just get up there and jump to the top of that and smash that thing. In reality, if I tried it, I'd probably snap my back in half.
SPEAKER_01:When was the last time you actually jumped? I keep having in my head all the time.
SPEAKER_03:Like, I mean, do box jumps, you know, bro.
SPEAKER_01:But in my head, like I can still dunk and stuff, and I'm like, I don't know if I actually can dunk. You should you should be able to. I know I'm freaking tall, I probably still can't. But like like real dunks, like cool dunks.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I think my knees might actually give out. Isn't that but isn't that weird?
SPEAKER_03:Like, again, I've talked about this before, but just you the your perception of your abilities, like it it doesn't change. I know. It just feels you feel like, yeah, I can still do all these things. Of course I can, because I could do them one time when I was 25.
SPEAKER_01:Uh we were legit before I came here doing somersaults in the garage with the kids. Like if they do it in judo, and my little guy is not good at them, so I'm like, hey buddy, let's work on this. Uh so I went to show him and I was like, what dush, like flat back on the cement, and I was like, oh yeah. Just like that. Just like that. That's what you don't want to do, bud. Like, let's try this again.
SPEAKER_03:Also, uh, let's uh circle back to some positivity. Uh, congratulations on your new child. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Uh that's exciting. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Tell us the story. Uh uh little dude, he's super cute, uh little ginger hair, um, which runs in the family. Okay, where did that come from? CJ? Irish. Yeah, where were you? That's fine. I just said I didn't get to see it. Um, he's awesome. Like, my wife is a rock star and she's been crushing it, and she like looks great and is like baking things and like doing the feedings and getting up at night, and I'll like wake up and be like, You good? You okay? I'm gonna go back to bed, and so I feel pretty useless. But then uh there's two other rug rats that I gotta try and take care of. So I try and keep them busy while she does all the other things, and yeah, it's fun. It's like wild again, like because my youngest is five before the baby, so like you don't think it's that far away, but then like the baby comes out and like, oh right, babies are this tiny little thing. I don't know how to hold them that can like, yeah, fit like honestly. Like, I can't even I have to like make my long ass arms awkward just to put his head in there and like to hold him right. Um, but yeah, it's crazy, and then like coming in here and like seeing two-year-old, right? I'm like, oh frick, like that's gonna be so soon, and she's like talking and stuff, and it's just oh, that's crazy, dude. Like, all the things. So I'm trying to soak it up, trying to be present while being very tired, also managing two other kids while like it's just it's fun, but it's a lot, and I'm very tired.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know why we suck so much at being present, like in humans in general. I don't know, like it's you we can say it all the time, like we can, and I think I think that you a lot of people are more aware that that should be a thing, maybe, or at least in our circle, they're more aware that they should be present, but I still suck at it.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I'll have moments, but but then like what what is good being present? You know, I don't know. I mean that's the thing. Maybe like we actually are doing pretty good. Like, I don't think any of us are bad parents, uh but like what is the standard that we're supposed to be present at?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I ask that question a lot too, because like you get you catch moments, right? Like we're sitting on a step yesterday at the end of her birthday party and she's dancing with her little cousin. I'm like, oh, I'm here for that. That was cool. Yeah, but then like I'm like, okay, well, I remember that. Like I was present for that moment, but like a lot of the other moments I wasn't. And then you're trying to be like, hey, like, how do I like do I know that I did a good job of that? Or like how do I assess like my my level of presence overall? It's it's fucking impossible.
SPEAKER_01:Totally. And like, I think maybe that's another unreasonable expectation that social media is throwing at us where it's like you need to be present a million percent of the time. It's like, yeah, but I also need to like cook them dinner and do their laundry.
SPEAKER_02:So like pay some bills on my phone and also like send an email and also like do this and also sweep the front step and blah blah blah blah blah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you know what's also really interesting. So uh I so if you don't know this, I have uh another 14-year-old in my house now uh for the year. Just adopted? Uh we so basically an international exchange student. Uh had no plans on doing this, never even crossed my mind. Uh long story short, um my daughter has a whole bunch of uh international students in their class this year, and one of them was like struggling the first week of school because where they were staying was like really bad, not good, and like lots lots of things, and just refused to take him. So he wanted to play sports, and they were like, Well, we're not driving, we can't drive you anywhere. So no. And then uh took his was taking his phone away, was like wouldn't let him close his door, like just weird stuff, right? Anyway, long story short, she was like, Hey, could we do this? Could we potentially take somebody? I'm like, uh and this was I was maybe I was feeling emotional. This is why it happened, I don't know. Uh, and so we were like, Okay, uh, let's figure this out. So we kind of got fast tracked through, applied, did the stuff, and then uh last week on like Tuesday, they dropped him off. So now I got enough. Yeah, so now I got a 14-year-old, but so he's from Spain, and uh it's really interesting because again, just culturally Europe is so different than us what in even in how they raise their their kids. So uh we were talking about like supper or whatever, and we we usually eat around 5 36, pretty normal. And he's like, Yeah, we don't usually eat, especially like we don't usually eat till like 10 or like sometimes 11. I'm like what you say what? Yeah, and he's like, Oh yeah, like and especially in the summers when there's no school, he's like, We like we'll we go out like all night. Like and he's 14, I'm like, Are you what? What do you mean all night? He's like, Oh yeah, he's like, We'll go we'll go hang out with friends and whatever and come back in the morning and sleep. And I was like, your parents just he's like, oh yeah, everyone does like everybody does it. They're doing it too. Everyone, everyone, like it's like uh you sleep in later, you eat later, you go out and you party and have fun and do whatever you're gonna do. Uh he said, like, even like concerts, he said, What time he said, what time would a concert start and like end for you? Like, well, I got like the main people probably hit the stage around eight or nine and be done by eleven, twelve, probably max. He's like, Oh, most times that like big big name people in Spain would start at like two in the morning. What? Yeah. Really? Yeah. And I'm like, what? And then just like again, just like the how much that we hold on to, like um controlling of like okay, it's 10 o'clock, time to go to bed, or where are you where are you gonna be, where like what's going on, who are you hanging out with, like just all the things that you think you're doing, being a good parent doing, and if in our culture is very normal, that is completely not what it's like uh in in what where he was at in Mad by in Madrid. And I'm just like it's so weird again, just like thinking about how everything that we're we do is so normal to us, and seems like the way to do it. It's like this is how you be our responsible parent. You try to, you know, make sure your kids are you know where they're at and what they're doing, and friends and completely versus like I think on the other hand, they're like kind of more they allow them to figure stuff out for themselves a lot more, and like I don't know, it's weird. Maybe it's safer there, or maybe we they're just their can their perception of that is different. I'm not I don't know. It's interesting. So he's only been with us for like a less than a week, and uh just interesting kind of learning a bit more about their culture and yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I know like siestas are a thing, so it's like they stay up later because they have that nice two-hour nap in the afternoon.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know if that's the same thing in Spain or Mexico. I thought that was like Europe. Where do you think the Mexicans came from? Yeah, Johnny. Right, but I thought the siesta was Mexico because it was too hot to work in the afternoon. Oh I don't know. I haven't been to Mexico.
SPEAKER_02:Jason pulled that up. You've never been to Mexico? No. Wow. I have I think we talked about this a few podcasts ago, but I'm just I feel this like burning kind of thing.
SPEAKER_01:On your skin because you're on my skin because I'm a ginger in the sun.
SPEAKER_02:Got him.
SPEAKER_01:It's called a vampire.
SPEAKER_02:Like I can feel it just like inside of me. Like I'm like, I need to travel. I need to go see some shit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's a weird thing. I I get that sometimes.
SPEAKER_02:Um and I'm not talking like sitting on a beach in Mexico. I'm just like I don't know. You want to go see things. I want to go see things.
SPEAKER_03:I want to go like experience because like it in some ways that ship is I might say the ship has sailed for you. Like Oh, it has sailed. Well, it it hasn't hasn't. It definitely like before you have kids, obviously, is a lot easier. Cause then you can actually go and like take in culture and you don't have to worry about you can go do kind of just some random stuff, right? Whereas now your kids, you got kids, so the question is do you leave them? Uh or do you take them? And if you take them, and then they're gonna be at a certain age where like going to a museum, they're gonna wanna you're gonna want to murder them because they're they they are bored in three seconds. I don't know, it's interesting.
SPEAKER_01:Spanish in Spain. Uh CS. Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Nailed it.
SPEAKER_02:I knew it. I'm trying to learn Spanish now and I suck at it. See. Did you give up on Japanese? No, I do them both.
unknown:Yeah, you are.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know how that's. He's the guy that's he's the white guy from New York that speaks like really fluent everything, Mandarin or something like that. Oh, and everything else.
SPEAKER_01:I think I maybe have seen his video.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah, he's like I actually love watching his videos because he's he's also a savant, so he can just learn languages like really easy. And he'll just learn, you know, some some language from East or from India, and then he'll go and he'll talk to them, and they'll be like, Oh my god, I can't believe you speak our language. Here's some free food. He does it a lot of restaurants. Some free food, yeah. Apparently, that is the path to getting free food is just speaking language and not getting spit in your food. Yeah, and just telling him, like, hey, I'm new to your country, I've learned your language, and like you, I watch a video of him in Turkey at like a street vendor place, and the guys are like, Oh, here's a bunch of free food. Like, he's like, Yeah, I got a YouTube channel. They're like, Oh, let me see, and just like giving him shit.
SPEAKER_03:And the other thing that like this international student thing has opened my eyes to because I I personally would really I don't think I could send my kid away for a year. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think I don't know, like it's foreign to me. Like, I don't know how it's international, that's why it's foreign to all of them say that. Got him. I just don't get how you do it. I think it'd be so hard like to send your kid to another country for a full year. You'll probably see him at Christmas and maybe Easter, but like, okay, bye. See you in a year at school.
SPEAKER_01:Especially knowing like what we brought up with the start, right? Like, yeah, you only have so much time. I know, right? See you for another year. Like, but it is that's probably good for them.
SPEAKER_03:Probably like huge, like it expands like their independence, their ability to deal with situations that are new to them. They don't speak the lot, like he speaks pretty good English, but he still every once in a while is like, I don't know what you mean by that. So, like, he's so he's having to like learn and and there's some kids um also at the school who are from j Japan who literally I don't think they speak English at all. And that I don't understand how you do. But they'll probably figure it out because they'll probably figure it out, but like again, it's just like okay, you don't speak the language, go go to school for a year in Canada. What like I just I it's interesting because again, it's just that and then I've actually been talking to um this kid's dad, and he's he's an interesting dude, and he's like, I did it when I was in um junior high or high school, and he said it was a huge open my eyes to the world, and that whole idea of like traveling and seeing a different culture, they're doing it at like 15, 14, and experiencing that. And then he was like, and like the people that I stayed with, we stayed friends forever, yeah, and like we still hang out every once in a while.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, my uncle did that with a kid from Germany, same thing. Like they and went to Germany and they stayed with his family, and like, yeah, it was a whole big thing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's but I I I just I struggle with it. I struggle with the idea of sending my kid, dude.
SPEAKER_01:My little guy has to ride his bike to the park while I was working out, and I was like, I really same thing because I'm like, you gotta let go sometime, right? And I was like, Yes, but you come in and you say hello every lap you do, right? Like make sure you're okay.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, oh, I'm not ready for this.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, it's it's insane.
SPEAKER_03:It's hard. It's it's hard to know like how much to let go and give some independence and let them learn by making mistakes versus like the hot the helicopter parent would be other side of that, right? Where they you're they're not making any nope, stop, wait, wait, wait. Like I don't want to be that either. And I think there's maybe the in-between, but uh, I think I don't know. I think in a society we're leaning, we're all leaning a little too far towards that helicopter parent thing and less of like allowing them to do stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe maybe maybe or or because it's also we live in a weird society where historically I think human beings like f multi-generations of families would stay together. Right. Whereas this is not how and why is that different? Well, it's different because it's like people move out now.
SPEAKER_03:No, but I'm saying why doesn't happen. I got that. No, why is it different for how that they would raise that them, like giving them more independence?
SPEAKER_02:Well, I think if you actually I have no idea how that's different. I mean, I I'm assuming this is more like agrarian type societies, hunter-gatherer, yada yada yada, where you had to have like a your tribe was your family and everybody stuck together, and here now, like it's just the way people leave and go generate their own economic prosperity by moving out and doing their own thing, and I don't know. I don't know why it's different, but it is different. You tell me why it's different.
SPEAKER_03:No, I don't know. I'm just saying, like I find myself wanting to probably control more than I should. Like not I wouldn't say control is the right word, but like direct. Yeah, you know what I mean? Maybe more than I should versus allowing again. The question is, did you there was a question earlier, did I do enough, right? As a parent. And I think if you do lay the groundwork when they're younger, especially in terms of trying to get them to look at the world um from all perspectives and like and really start that critical thinking idea super early in life, because then it allows them to ha to like evaluate decision making, not just like make a decision, but maybe they've actually put some thought into okay, if I do this, then that would potentially happen, or if I do this, that might be different. So I think if you can build that in younger, you hope that then maybe you can allow them to make some decisions, and they might be bad decisions in the end, but again, the decisions we talked about, it the outcome might not be good. But if you can really come back to like, well, why did you make that decision? I think if there can articulate to you that, well, this is what I thought. I thought if I did this, well, this is what was going on. I thought so. Here's a here's a really plain example. Uh my kid, uh, I think I told a story. She was with some friends. Uh now she's got some friends who can drive. Um, and we were like, you're not getting in someone's car. Sorry. Like if let that's just the thing, you don't get in the car to you're not going get going out of the town, the little town to the bigger city with somebody else that we don't know who they are. Not happening.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um, so she was with some people, they decided to go wash. The one kid decided to go wash his vehicle, and there's a little car wash in the town. So, and she didn't ask about that, whatever. I was I'm kind of okay with she just drove from here to there in this little town and washed the car. Thing is, they get in the car, that car wash is closed, they decide, ah, we're going to we're going to town, we're going to the city to and she sends a text. Uh, hey, is it okay if I go into Lethbridge with the so-and-so? I'm like, no, pretty simple. Shoot no. Well, we're actually already on the way. And so we had to have a conversation after about this. But again, from a decision-making perspective, she explained herself, and like I still was like not happy about it, but like, well, no, the plan wasn't this, and then by the time I could well, I couldn't just jump out of the vehicle. They think I was just like, Okay, we're going, go and wash the car. And so it's like, again, but so the point is like the evaluation, the decision-making process was there. There was some thought put into it. Well, dad's probably okay if we go from here to here, just stay within town and come back. By the time that she couldn't make that decision anymore because it was kind of taken out of her hands. It was like, okay, well, you were very aware that we we wouldn't be happy about that, so there's some thought process happening. I don't know. I I guess the whole thing is I'm just very curious as to like we we I I want I'm trying to mod modulate or moderate, that's the word moderate how much to do versus how much to allow to happen. Yeah. I actually think I have an answer to your question now.
SPEAKER_02:Um I bet you the reason why we feel that way more is in this hypothetical agrarian society with multi-generations, there were less decisions, there were less options. So it was really easy to be have like, hey, you can decide if you want to go out and hunt that boar or not. That's because that's the only thing you're gonna have a choice to do, whereas now we live in a society with a million decisions and then to try and I think as a parent like control or try and like influence your child to make good decisions, you have to then reconcile with the fact that like there's so many decisions to be made with so many plausible outcomes versus in the previous, in the past, there wasn't that really many decision choices to make, maybe like on a daily basis. Yeah. Which is tough. I'd be I would str I would struggle with like yeah, you're not getting in the car.
SPEAKER_03:No, and that was we've had that conversation and it was Because you can't trust the person driving the car. Well, I mean it's just stats, right? It's just stats. Like we've we've said, like we've told them, like like the number of kids that die in car collisions between the ages of like 16 and 20 are insane.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Because kids make terrible decisions.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Uh and so like, and that doesn't have to mean that you're driving. You're in a vehicle with somebody in that age range driving. Like, uh, I don't know. I uh do you guys have people that you grew up with who you know died in a clock car collision in that age group? Yeah, I there was a kid that we hung out with that played sports with, died. My wife knows one or two that died, like like so most people that I know can look back and be like, oh yeah, there was that, even if it wasn't like direct. It was like, oh yeah, the guy in the next town. Yeah, he he was killed in the car.
SPEAKER_02:But the problem the the th the one that really kind of hits home for me is I look back specifically to driving. I look back at the decisions I made as a 16-year-old. Oh, dude. And it it it honestly terrifies me. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You just got lucky. Uh like beyond lucky, like lottery lucky, right? Like the decisions you made when you're driving. I don't know about you, but I did some shit.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I remember like this just popped in my head. Like my buddies were out of park, lake. I was gonna go meet them there and drive my shitty old car at the time, and it was late, and I see headlights coming out, and I knew they were like thinking about leaving at that time, so I assumed it was my buddies, so I decided to play chicken with that fucking car. And then I was like, last minute they turn off, car goes by, it's not my friends. And I was like, Jesus, like, what is wrong with you, Jim? Like, come on, buddy. I also remember surfing on the top of a car one time and falling off.
SPEAKER_03:So didn't like somebody in our town like die from that? Didn't they like get a well playing chicken? Uh surfing on the car and they smashed their head and they like Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they got a concussion.
SPEAKER_02:And I I know of two separate instances of young kids dying on dirt bikes playing chicken within like uh our greater area in the last five years.
SPEAKER_03:I again, same thing when I was young. I did with my car. Like I fell asleep one night, don't know how I didn't die. Like there's a bit there's a like like this is the thing, we all know this. This is like not rare, so that's a pretty standard like no, you're not getting in the car with somebody who's that age. Sorry. Yeah. I mean, at a certain there actually is uh a couple that I would I can completely I mean there are some people that I will allow her to get in the car with because I know them who are 17 or whatever, right? Um, and but I I don't know, and it doesn't make it better, it's just at least I know them, they they're a good person, they seem to make good decisions, doesn't mean they can make can't make a bad one, but in general they seem to be a good decision maker.
SPEAKER_02:That and that might be the problem, is like I think at least for me, I'm making all the decisions right now, and then as kids get older they make some like very minor decisions. But let's say from like 15 to 25, they're making adult decisions with a fucking incomplete brain. Oh yeah. Yeah, which is that is the hard part. Yeah, but we all did it and we're still here. Somehow. Somehow, somehow, like what the hell? Uh speaking of still being here, yes, uh welcome, Jeff. Did we not say that? Uh we did. We we didn't. Um, but people might be asking why is Jeff here. That's a good point. I think you'll be hearing from Jeff a few times over the next few weeks. Yeah. Because Jeff is now Jason.
SPEAKER_01:Take that Jason's back.
SPEAKER_03:He hasn't been kicked off. Uh he's still alive. We think.
SPEAKER_01:He's just laying on a couch, uh, heavily drugged up.
SPEAKER_03:So if you're listening to this, uh, we hope you get better. Uh I'm sorry that your back sucks. But but I can't throw stones because I'm also struggling with some back issues. So I don't know. Uh his was bad. His is does not sound good. Uh there was a pop, probably shouldn't have been a pop.
SPEAKER_01:And then he took the drugs and felt better and then decided to just like do a bunch of things for several days, and then I think those drugs warmed up. Oh, that was it. When chiropractor, and then yeah.
unknown:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Speaking of decision making. Listen, some people swear by chiropractors.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm not one of those people. I know you're not. I wasn't for a long time, and now I've been going back lately, and it's okay. I don't know. He's a nice guy, he helps me.
SPEAKER_03:He seems okay. Does that actually help? Like, is it like I don't think so?
SPEAKER_01:Because my neck obviously is giraffe-like. Uh, and it's just like from everyday life, my neck hurts. I'm like, fudge. Uh, so then I go see him. Fudge. Yeah, I'm trying to dial back and swear in a little bit. Uh, I go see him like once a month kind of thing, and he just keeps things in check, and it's been better. Like, my neck hasn't gone out, which is nice. Uh, and then my weird shin thing from the run, he like put some lasers on it and stuff, and it's actually felt really good. Um, so yeah. I think you it's like anything though, you gotta like find a good one, you know what I mean? So I've definitely been to some quacks that made me swear it off for a long time. Uh, but now this dude, like, he goes to the gym, he understands like my gym vernacular, what I want to do, all that fun. He's a nice guy. We have good conversations. So you're paying for a friend. Yeah. Isn't that you get friends when you're four years old? There's other ways to get friends. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's good to hear. And I mean, we are the the the upside that of you being here for however long you're here while Jason is immobile, is that we actually get to sit with somebody that finished the ultra marathon they sign up for.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's neat. That's good job. Uh it was not fast. And I did not train for it, but I got it.
SPEAKER_03:But you still did it. I'm uh wearing I'm wearing my stolen valor. I was gonna make fun of.
SPEAKER_01:Uh uh Cole, uh, what's his name was wearing one. Uh, and I uh maybe made fun of him. And I don't usually have that relationship. I have that relationship with you where I can make fun of you all the time. And then I felt immediately guilty for making fun of him. And I was like, Fudge, he's gonna hate me now for the rest of my life. He's not. He definitely's taking it harder than me. He, yeah, the other day, uh, someone asked him about it. Like, I think very genuinely asked him, like, how did it go? And this is again a response I never expect from him. He's like, I don't want to talk about it. And I was like, Oh, oh no.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he's uh he had a rough day. It was really hard on him, and it's pissing him off.
SPEAKER_01:But if anything, I got a boatload of respect for these like long distance endurance athletes, and like even you dudes who maybe didn't finish it, holy moly, like I don't think I could have ran 51 kilometers. Like I was I was pretty done after that. So very admirable.
SPEAKER_03:Oh well, uh it's interesting that people keep saying that, and I and I understand, like in on paper, you it sounds crazy. Um, but it's like when you when the goal was something, right? And you failed to accomplish your goal. It's interesting when everyone's like, Oh my god, that's so amazing. You guys did awesome. Like you're like, I failed. I failed. I'm the worst. I didn't get to the spot that I wanted to get to. And like, I'm not trying to be like I'm I'm not I'm not even like I'm not even trying to be hard on myself about it. It's just it is what it is. Like, I the goal was 160 kilometers. I didn't get there. I got to 104, maybe 110 if you go by Strava. But 110? But 104. You know, it's accurate. Um, so like, yeah, like cool. Sure. And I mean, like it was yes, it was way faster than last year. Yes, I felt good. Like, there's a whole bunch of things like wins in the loss for sure that I can point out uh that I feel good about in terms of like recovery, my feet were not messed up, a bunch of a bunch of things, three hours quicker, whatever, right? All the stuff, but in the end, that wasn't the goal. And so they're like, Oh, you should be proud. I'm like, I'm not. Like, I don't want to tell you, like, I I understand I I I just I'm not, and it's not it's not a negative thing. I don't feel negatively about that I'm not proud of myself, it's just that wasn't the goal. And so it's really interesting when people look keep like, oh, that's so amazing.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, well, not really, like uh things I think a way to think of it too is uh I brought this up to Tony, is like we always kind of look at it like running or fighting or whatever, where it's like you need to be undefeated, you need to. But if you look at it, like I come from basketball shockingly, uh, you don't win every game. No, right? So like it's okay to fall short of your goal or to lose, or like that's right, but I sure and I and I agree with you. I just won this time, then you lost.
SPEAKER_03:Um exactly, exactly. But my point is like if you had lost the game, the basketball game, it's not gonna be like, Oh yeah, I'm so proud of that game. I'd still have like good games, even though you lose you would have you would have good moments in that game, totally, but it I'd say as an overall perspective, it wouldn't be like, oh yeah, I'm so proud of that game. Well, like you lost as a team, so there are some things that should have been better potentially. I feel the same way, like I I don't feel negative about saying I'm not proud of that performance. Like there are some things for sure that I am happy how it went in a lot of different ways. Um, and and we've talked about this before, but like pain is weird because if you had asked me in that moment when I decided I couldn't go any further, I was like I couldn't go any further. I was too much pain, everything hurt. I and it wasn't like I couldn't do another kilometer, it's like I knew I couldn't do another 56 kilometers. And because I could and because I couldn't do another 56 kilometers, it was like, why do one more? Is kind of how my head how I justified it. Yeah. But now it's just because it's like it's hard to tie put some time in between that decision, and now I'm like, but well, how bad how bad was I really hurting? You know what I mean? In the moment, again, I go back, I know that I know that because I was thinking about this even before I decided that I was gonna have this thought later. It's like I know that in that moment I made the decision that I had to make, but it's like now that's just a distant memory. It's like that pain is did you though, or could you could you just have gone one more kilometer and then reassessed?
SPEAKER_02:And then one more.
SPEAKER_03:I well, I could, I could like so the next question was like it was six cla 6k to the next to the next stop. It was that it was this the short one but with the three ridiculous hills.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, like the last, like the fifth leg or whatever, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:The stupid hills. It sucks.
SPEAKER_01:I was like, I'm almost there, and then it's like someone said to me two more hills, and I did two, and then the one dude was like, and there's one more.
SPEAKER_03:And I was like, you sons of bitches. Yeah, and they're the worst ones in the whole course. But and so yeah, like I I that this is the this is the game, right? This is the game where it's like, could I have gone gotten there? Yeah, maybe. But I but in my head, I was like, I was like, I but I can't do another full lap of this course. Yeah, right? But you always I always say you second guess it a little bit. You're like, if I had just gone and gotten through that next 6K, would it have been like, okay, I get some weird sort of second wind, your legs somehow healed themselves, and you're like, okay, let's do this. Maybe I don't freaking know. It doesn't I don't know, I'm fine with it. I'm fine with not knowing that. I don't know if I'm ever gonna do it again. I don't know. I'm actually haven't signed up yet. You can't sign up or November 1st.
SPEAKER_01:Uh I crossed the finish line and I was like texting some peeps and stuff, and I was like, I'm gonna take this opportunity to announce my retirement from uh ultra marathon racing. Yeah, but two days later, I'm like, I I might do it again. Yeah, like honestly, it was uh it was a cool experience. I'm not gonna do 100. That is dude.
SPEAKER_02:See, I think you should. No, no. Well, just imagine if you trained. How yeah, that's a good point. How many hours was was your 50?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, like 10 20, like 10 20.
SPEAKER_03:So you that pace twice, you you get there. Barely, but you get it under time cap.
SPEAKER_01:But my body was thrashed. Like I'm still my hips. I went for a jog, and my shin's all fucked up, so I shouldn't be jogging, but like my hips instantly are just tight. It's like as soon as I move them a little bit, it's like, ooh.
SPEAKER_03:I feel like that's where my back's messed up, and I don't know why. It I don't I guess it seems weird because it was fine, like, and then all of a sudden, like a week after the race, it started like seizing up on me, and like now I can't bend over to put my shoes on. It's really bad.
SPEAKER_01:How do you put your shoes on then?
SPEAKER_03:I have to like sit or like just make it really uncomfortable and try to shoot. You should go see a chiropractor. Well, I I think I'm gonna have to make an appointment with somebody this week. I've already talked to our boss this week and said I might be a little limited in the upcoming training home plunge. I think those are just I've heard those help. Yeah, I sold that. We know this.
SPEAKER_01:Shut up. I know it's so funny.
SPEAKER_03:Uh did you sell it pretty quick? Uh yeah, pretty quick. Uh Jason was gonna buy it and uh for a certain price, and then he just I we had a conversation, he decided not to buy it, and then I jacked the price up and sold it. So to a not for not friend price, and I'm quite happy. There you go. That's good. He could have used it too.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, his back is all bunged up.
SPEAKER_01:His bick. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And it's broken.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah, interesting experience. And uh hilarious too, when I'm like, I think I'm a decently fit dude, and then all these like six-year-old knownas are just cruising by me, and I'm like, holy Moses.
SPEAKER_03:We talked about that a bit a lot when we did the kind of the recap of it, but there's a uh this one one lady who's like 69 years old, yeah, that just destroyed me. Just always ahead of me. I cut I'd catch her, then I'd I'd take a break at the A Station for five minutes, and somehow she's already back out there. Oh, and I checked and she passed, she finished. Yeah, well, I'm sure she did.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was amazing.
SPEAKER_03:How much did you train though?
SPEAKER_01:Me? Oh, absolutely. None. I went for one run with you, absolutely and got hurt. Beautiful run, and then I got hurt after, and then I didn't run anymore because my knee was messed. Uh, you know what? I think I'll be okay. Good for you. I chatted with some CrossFitters who are like come from the ultra world and they're like, just keep doing CrossFit and like you'll be you won't win, but like you'll be fine. Yeah, okay. So then that's what I did. I that was what I wanted to hear, and it just like fed into my thought process of not needing to train.
SPEAKER_03:I've already thought I've thought about this. If when? If I were going to were to do it again next year, uh what I would what how I would change training would be um I would less be less worried about the volume during the week. Yeah, and I think I would try like every weekend to do like a 30 plus 30k plus run. And like so, like four four hours, something like that. I'd do a four-hour run on like a Saturday morning, super early, just get up and go. I think if I would just getting that like that beating once a week, I think you would develop some I don't know, some of what you need to deal with the beating of the hills. That that's what killed me was the beating of the ups and the downs, like my on my quads.
SPEAKER_01:I like I liked the hills. The coming down was hard. Yeah, like I fucked my legs up. Um, but like ups were easy. I was passing people on the ups, but same thing. Just the the one the fourth leg or whatever. I had to walk a ton of it because my hips were so tight. And I have had the same thought, but I want to do maybe like one weekend do sprints and then the next weekend do like a long slow run.
SPEAKER_03:And then like see, I would like rather do that, like the maybe track workouts during the week and just like I think speed, like so. We'll do like four by four by one, no, sorry, four hundred repeats or eight hundred repeats. Yeah um, and then like not worry about not worry, I guess not try to get in my head about either distance necessarily, like per month. Yeah. I mean, yes, you definitely like this year it was definitely helpful, like doing the the distance that I did was made you wait fast made me it made me faster and made me more durable, even though I still blow up blew up. But like I think if you worked on like the speed kind of the four by the eight hundreds, the four hundreds, um, and then on weekends do like maybe back a 20k, 20k, or a 40k on a Saturday, or something like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And like you're probably right. It's just that doesn't appeal to me. And so I'm like, no.
SPEAKER_03:See, I think it but I think you would it's it's I I think you would like it. I think you get in like it's like a four four hours, so you get up at like six on a Saturday, you go out to be back home by ten thirty, like you didn't miss a whole bunch of family time or anything like that. You put your headphones in or you chat with some bros and you go do like leg one, two, one, two, four, and five. You can't do three. Like you just do leg one four one, two, four, five, and maybe what if it's not enough, then one more one or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Could be. I don't know. Anyway, I'm not saying I'm gonna do it. I'm just saying I've thought about how I would train differently if you think we can think it's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna get you.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna say prior to November 15th, you've signed up for a race.
SPEAKER_01:But and maybe that's it too, like uh, because Castle has a really cool one and it's only 28k, but I think the elevation is ridiculous, but it looks just like a cool hike, run, and walk thing.
SPEAKER_03:Well, the other thing is I just don't want to spend my whole year doing running again. Like that's the other thing. I wanted to keep doing other things, so I don't want to if if I it was something that I wanted to like spend, okay, the next year again is just gonna be running, I don't want to do it. But if I can develop chain find a training kind of plan or idea that I could still do other things during the week, still do like CrossFit stuff or lifting stuff during the week and then do the run um on the weekend, then that would maybe appeal to me more.
SPEAKER_02:You could do the 50 and just try and hammer it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't want yeah, four hours or whatever 20 minutes that that psycho did.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Hey, speaking of that, did you you have contacts for the freak of nature that is the number one, she beat the course record, not just for Cass?
SPEAKER_01:What? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Do you know her too? Yeah. What what are we doing? Why is she not here with us? Okay, alright. Jeez Louise. I thought you wanted to talk to me. That's fine. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02:Like, can she be here in the case? Not too much. Uh like can you be here by 8 10?
SPEAKER_03:Uh but seriously, like I want to it'd be interesting to talk to her. Like, she's I what is going on with that girl?
SPEAKER_01:She like, so I knew her a little bit in university and she played soccer or rugby, I can't remember. But like even then, she was just this like freak athlete. She's amazing, right? Uh, and then kind of re-met her again because our kids are the same age. I was like, Oh, hey, what's up? Whatever, like small talk here and there. Um, and like noticed she was still very fit and like training, and then didn't know she was running, and then someone told me like how her time was. I was like, oh, so she beat me doing double the distance. Yeah, that's hilarious. I didn't realize that. Oh, yeah, like and I'm fine with it.
SPEAKER_03:I don't care, but yeah, she did a hundred kilometers faster than you did with 50, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and if not, like I maybe beat her, but we were pretty close. So that's impressive.
SPEAKER_03:Like anyway, I'm like, if we you we have connections here, she should be on the podcast.
SPEAKER_01:I think I think the wife knows her. I'm gonna see. Perfect.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, that's uh stay tuned. Maybe that happens one time in the next little while.
SPEAKER_02:It depends how much our listeners want to keep listening.
SPEAKER_03:Uh maybe. And if you're running. Maybe you don't like talking listen to us.
SPEAKER_02:If you don't like it, email us. Oh, wait, none of you ever email us.
SPEAKER_03:Nobody emails us. We don't even know what you listen like if you like us. Actually, it's it's thank you for if you do listen every once in a while to be like, hey, by the way, just wait, I listen and I like it. Oh, thanks. That's good to know.
SPEAKER_01:We have some buy some t-shirts, right?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, we do have t-shirts still.
SPEAKER_02:Are you an extra, extra small? Because then we have a t-shirt for you. I think we got some a lot of medium still, too. Are you uh are you a medium average sized person? Yeah, we might have like a couple larges left. Oh boy. Would your kids like t-shirts?
SPEAKER_03:Because we can certainly smalls that uh are weird shaped and don't fit anybody. Around the corner. Fit a kid? I they would fit a kid.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, well, take one of those. Yeah. Yeah. Please. All right. Uh are you gonna run again? Are you is your body healed up? Or wonder what's going on with you?
SPEAKER_02:My body feels pretty good by virtue of the fact that I've worked out maybe four times in the last month. No. You still look good. I'm on an epic fitness tailspin right now. Oh, this is the worst. Like I was looking at myself in the mirror last night, and you could just like you know when you can just see that you've just mailed it in. Like you just kind of got like you getting a tummy or what? I fucking it's just it's it's like it's like paired with just deep self-loathing. That's what you want. Yeah, that's what you want. You fucking fatty. Like, look at you. Are you happy? No, good.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So are we getting back to the gym then?
SPEAKER_02:Or no, because like bang my finger. I can't hold on to anything.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, can you do squats without can you do air squats? Can you run a treadmill?
SPEAKER_02:I can't I don't I know that this is a silly I I did I actually did it. I went for a run the other day. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Uh what about the stepper machine? I think you could do that.
SPEAKER_02:That sucks. I'm not doing that.
SPEAKER_01:Love and hate that thing.
SPEAKER_02:Uh no, it was good. I did the old fitness, uh, what is it, the old trauma, what is it? Fucking where do we work? The nursing home.
SPEAKER_01:Nursing home.
SPEAKER_02:I did the old nursing home uh trauma team run. Trauma team run.
SPEAKER_01:That's a good run. It was a good run.
SPEAKER_02:I actually was pretty happy with my time. Like I went a little bit hard, but it's funny because I was. Happy with my time, but I've run it three minutes faster before in the past, but maybe more of like peak fitness levels.
SPEAKER_03:Uh that path though is like treacherous. Dude, it's like it's like you're you're asking for a like that first those first switchbacks are so um washed out that they're like cracks in them.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, exactly. And like see that I mean neither of us pay property tax in the city, but like where's your tax money going?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I have no idea. Burning it to that stupid exhibition. Hey, do you ride a bike? I do ride bikes. I used to like be hardcore bike rider. Do you?
SPEAKER_02:Did you? Do you want to ride some bikes with me? Oh my god, did you go buy a bike? Uh I was gonna go today and I ran out of time, but I'm probably gonna go tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01:I love riding bikes. I like yeah, I've been thinking about it a lot actually. Have you? Yeah, okay, sweet. I love to ride bikes.
SPEAKER_03:It makes sense for him to ride a bike to work. He would act I if he did it, like he could actually do it. Sorry, that doesn't make sense. If he could do it, if he decided to, it would make sense for him to do it from his location. It makes no sense.
SPEAKER_02:It's fine. It's it's fine. I will I will be just fine. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Isn't there like a path going in or something? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's fine.
SPEAKER_01:We're gonna ride bikes together. You're welcome to come. I'm not. You need a road bike.
SPEAKER_02:Think about how he's gonna get an e-bike, by the way. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. I'm I'm closer to 40 than not. It's it's totally cool. Yeah. Uh but think about how good your zone two cardio would be. If that's all you did was just bike back and forth. I don't I don't want to bike. I'm not saying you have to bike, I'm just saying think about how to think about it. Cool. I don't know why you're so against this.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not against it. I hope you like I said last time. No, no. I just like I said last time, I hope that he buys this bike and I hope he uses it a lot, but I don't think he will. Oh.
SPEAKER_01:There you go.
SPEAKER_03:That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01:That's all I'm saying. But you know what else? Kids like bikes. Uh it's pretty fun to go biking with your kids.
SPEAKER_03:Are you gonna get one of the attachments where your kid can sit on your bike with you?
SPEAKER_01:The shotgun or whatever they're called.
SPEAKER_03:Or one of those uh trailers you pull back behind it.
SPEAKER_01:Trailer bike.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like the trailer would be fun, but I also would like somebody to pull me in the trailer. You're too big. Make a big trailer. Hey, speaking of being too big, uh it turns out that bouncy castle has a weight limit. Yeah, I know. Did you pop a bouncy castle? Did you break it?
SPEAKER_03:I didn't. Oh I think it's like 150 pounds. Oh yeah, it's 250. Oh no, it's just not it is not because I I never it was I I think it isn't because I never got on it. 100%. I think it isn't. I think it isn't. So I we bought it brand new, and I think that it had in the box at 150 because I never got on it one time. Because I'm 170. I will bet you your car. Oh it's 250. Oh no. No, I'm not making that bet, but uh I never got on it because I was worried about breaking it.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and it I believe the 250 is like 250 worth of children distributed evenly above the surface. Not like 210 distributed directly in one spot where you touch the ground. Break your spine. You're gonna backdrop on that thing. Um the funny thing is, is it wasn't me that was in it. Okay. But we had our child's birthday party yesterday, and one of uh one of our good friends from the nursing home will call him Stuart. Okay. That is his real name. Oh, got it. Got him. Uh was in there with this kid, and I was like, oh no. Get him off, dude. This thing's gonna break. Uh, but turns out kids fucking love bouncing casts.
SPEAKER_03:They go hard. You remember that time when I said, Hey, do you want a bounce cast? I was like, no.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I do. You will one day.
SPEAKER_02:If if it ever comes to the point where you're like, hey, you should uh I'd like to give you this thing, sell you this thing, here's this thing you need, just just do it like you did, and just be like, you're taking this, uh huh. Uh, and then I'll see the value after when I use it.
SPEAKER_01:Do they have adult ones? How much fun with that? They do, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Have you ever seen those gigantic ones in like uh I don't know, uh Henderson where they had put those up, those like during like Canada Day and stuff, they'd have giant bouncy houses.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but like how those are adult ones. I'd have to like butt in front of a kid to get a spot in line. Sure, but I'm saying those are built for like anyone can go on them. That'd be fun. We should just rent it one day.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it'd be fun if it was with like your adults.
SPEAKER_03:Have you ever seen when there's children in them and then the wind picks them up and tosses the children over houses? No. Oh yeah, okay. By the way, also with that bouncy castle, you should be staking it, staking it into the ground. I did. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it came with three out of the four steps.
SPEAKER_03:And if it gets windy, if it starts getting windy, get rid of the children and put it away immediately. Dude, there's some horrendous there's some sort of horrendous videos of these like giant bouncy castles, one on a beach where like this wind comes up, it picks this whole thing up, and this kid, or I don't know, human, went flying through the air, tossed.
SPEAKER_01:And they landed safely in the water. Yeah, they're probably fine. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like this is something you should have told me before yesterday. It's fine.
SPEAKER_01:It doesn't get windy here. It's fine.
SPEAKER_02:When it was windy yesterday, I just happened to put it where the house blocks most of it. You were smart.
SPEAKER_01:Responsible parent.
SPEAKER_02:Um, this would be a good point if we had a video podcast where you could like show that video. I wish you could.
SPEAKER_03:There's a lot of them. I think if you just look at bouncy castles picked up by wind, uh it's scary.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, you you were the one that went on the hot air balloon. Me? No. Was it Jason? I don't know. Oh, he did, I think. I thought you went on a hot air balloon.
SPEAKER_01:I lived where there used to be lots of hot air balloons. It's not the same. No, but it's not the same.
SPEAKER_03:Uh so at the nursing home, uh right now we're training some new nursing attendants. And one of the nursing attendants that we're currently training uh played chess on a hot air balloon in Germany. I have heard this actually. And it's actually it's actually on YouTube. It's actually on YouTube. I'm not even joking. The dude, the dude knows Magnus Carlson. Yeah. Oh, sick. Shut up. The mags? Shut up. He knows the mags. Shut up. I know you don't think this is interesting. Do you even know who Magnus Carlson is?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, he's a world champion chess player. Yeah. I just know that because he told me last time. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03:He he's like, he's like, hey, is anyone interesting in this class? Tell me something interesting. We're like, wow, this is that kind of machine is like nerd.
SPEAKER_01:But in the place that we work, it's usually a certain type of personality. I'm not one of the well, I kind of am now, I think. Um, but it was like, all right, we're going around the room, Ravado is flowing. Tell me something interesting about yourself. I play a game. There's 20 pieces on a board.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, exactly. You are making me so angry right now.
SPEAKER_01:It's just that I don't know anything about it.
SPEAKER_02:But like that's like you're you're friends with like the world's best at something. I don't care what that something is. You could be the world's best knitter, and I'd be like, that's fucking what did you say? Knitter? Knitter. Is that how that's called? What am I missing here?
SPEAKER_01:Just think about what you said. You're right. It is interesting. It is I I don't find it interesting. So are you okay?
SPEAKER_03:That word has never been said on this podcast. Thank you very much, okay? He said knitter. Knitter. What did you think I said?
SPEAKER_01:That's why he said what I knew what you said. You just said it for you.
SPEAKER_03:Do you get it now? Yeah, I got okay. Oh god.
SPEAKER_01:Like, okay, but like he knows him. I would my next question, follow-up question because I'm a jerk would have been like, get him on FaceTime right now.
SPEAKER_03:I honestly think he could. I think he actually knows really well.
SPEAKER_01:That's what it's like.
SPEAKER_03:That means that can be other because I don't know this dude either. I didn't, I couldn't like there's a picture of him with him. I was like, is that him? Like I didn't know what he looked like, so it didn't matter to me.
SPEAKER_01:But I knew how cocky he was like I'll let this pretty sure speak for itself.
SPEAKER_03:I know my guy who the hell's that guy? Who's that dude? Uh but like I know the name and I know like why he's famous, but I didn't know who he was.
SPEAKER_02:It sounds like somebody that I would want to have on this podcast, but now if he listens to this episode, he's never gonna bring him on!
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. That's fine. Uh who's the other guy? Um that went crazy. What was his name? Uh chess player? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Wasn't it Magnus Carlson went crazy? Oh, I don't know. Or was it some guy Shane?
SPEAKER_03:Like went crazy how.
SPEAKER_01:Wasn't I just remember like an SNL skit um where they're singing about the guy? He's got like a catchy name. Let me look it up. Where is he? We don't know. We don't know. I can like it's what's his name? Bishop. Something bishop or something? There's a bishop in chess. Oh, maybe that's it. No. That's his straight name. The bishop the bishop. Uh the Megs. John.
SPEAKER_03:Well, there's a guy named Paul Morphe. No, that's not the one. 19th century, though. Oh, the Morphs. Uh Bobby Fisher. Bobby Fisher. Bobby Fisher.
SPEAKER_01:Where is he? We don't know.
SPEAKER_03:The 1972 world champion whose paranoia spiraled into anti-Semitic rants. Which is an exile. He became a reclusive figure until his death in 2008, with many attributing it to fame's toll during Cold War.
SPEAKER_01:So then, okay, well then what's the deal with uh Meg's over there? Didn't you say he went crazy too?
SPEAKER_03:I don't I don't know he said that. Allegedly, somebody was cheating. Maybe it's Bobby. I don't know. Oh, there was some there's some weird Oh dude. I know nothing about Chass, but there's been some weird allegations of people putting like probes up their butt uh so that when they're and they learn how to like read like a like a pulse or a signal in their beehole so so that like somebody like watching can like give them a signal as to what to move to make or what's like the two. It's like it's so crazy that humans are so intense about like anything that they're gonna find literally any way to try and cheat.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, including putting things in your beehole.
SPEAKER_01:Did uh you gotta ask these follow-up questions to the the new the new guy. So uh how into chess are you?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, how committed are you to winning?
SPEAKER_01:Did you uh use some of those techniques in some of the uh tests before we got hired on here?
SPEAKER_02:Alright, so chess is not our thing. We've determined that.
SPEAKER_01:It could be, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I just thought I used to play it on my phone, like you just like move some pieces.
SPEAKER_01:I I used to play with my brother and he beat the crap out of me every time, and I'd be like stupid. I was about 12. Yeah, yeah. I think I'd rather play poker.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'd play clean. I don't know how to play poker. We should do a poker knight. It's been a years since we've done a poker night. That'd be fun.
SPEAKER_02:I'd play it would be fun. It's just a long stretch between good ideas and execution. Yeah. A lot of shoulds, not a lot of are.
SPEAKER_01:This table is almost the perfect. No, this isn't big enough. No, I totally need a big one.
SPEAKER_02:I have one of those like fold out poker tops too. Like, you know, like whoosh, and I fold out, and then it doesn't make that sound when you open it, but whoosh who's very manly.
SPEAKER_01:Or just go down to Vegas and just like run some tables.
SPEAKER_02:And it's not as fun because it's like stress. I'm gonna have a diaper party for uh let's do that.
SPEAKER_01:And then you can bring in like the diapers for like the uh as poker or whatever. Yeah, yeah. It's like you're buy-in.
SPEAKER_02:Never had a diaper party? No.
SPEAKER_01:We all wear diapers. First one to poop loses.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. I'm in. We've got to make sure Jamie wears the diaper.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I don't know what's everybody just brings uh like a box of diapers, and that's your buy in a poker. Are you poor?
SPEAKER_01:No, it's like uh some kind of poor.
SPEAKER_02:Is this some scam? So is anyone pay for diapers forever? Oh, it's brilliant. Like you don't have to pay for diapers for like a year if you uh if you have a diaper party. This is a scam. It's a scam.
SPEAKER_01:It's a gift.
SPEAKER_02:What is it it's a friend? It's like a baby shower, but for like the men. Yeah. Okay. It's a diaper party.
SPEAKER_03:We're having a diaper party. Have you had one before? Did you do one last time? I did. I don't remember being invited to this diaper party. I may have invited you. I don't know. I don't think you did.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe you just didn't.
SPEAKER_03:Just like uh your child's birthday party yesterday. I don't remember ever having an invitation. I was thinking about that actually. I was thinking about that yesterday. It's like, I mean, we do like hang out, and I think you like me, and I think I like you sometimes, and we do a podcast together, but like I do like you.
SPEAKER_02:Is that is that a normal thing? So you you realize I'm not good at social interactions and uh I don't often make the right choices. Correct. Oh, we still like you. But you still like me. Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Is it Did your child fall out of her bed?
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's a little bit weird because she should be sleeping.
SPEAKER_03:Does she have the cat? Let me just check the camera. However, sorry, we just heard if you didn't hear it, we heard a giant bang upstairs, and we think his child fell out of bed. Which might have happened. Currently watching the cameras play by play. And now he's leaving the room, so he she must have fallen out of bed. Oh no.
SPEAKER_01:She sounds like she's okay. Um Did you ever have a diaper party? I never did. I've been to a few. Um yeah, I don't know. Like I'm I feel like I'm a pretty social person around the people I like to be social with. Oh, I was speaking to the side of it. The front. I thought the whole thing was. Yeah, you would think you would think that the mics would work that way, but they don't. So this whole time I've been an idiot. Anyway, you go. Uh no, I I'm very social with the people I'm social with. And then but I also like just like being in my house. You know what I mean? Like once you're in the house, you're like, uh so my wife wanted to like plan a thing, and I was like, or if people want to come see the baby, they just come see the baby, and that's cool, and then we're cool with it. Like, we don't have to make it a big to-do.
SPEAKER_03:I feel I feel very much the same. I'm I'm a very social person, but then there's times where I'm just like, I don't want to see anybody.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I don't want to leave my house, and I just want to stay at home.
SPEAKER_01:I like sometimes like when you get called out to the the old folks' home, and it's like, thank god. Like sometimes you don't even like other times. Sorry, gotta go. And uh usually whenever I go to do the things, it's great. All right, and I always I'm happy I did it. And but it's just like it's getting there. I don't know why. I guess uh that's like anything though.
SPEAKER_03:I think the process of getting there is always the hardest. Yeah, like the gime, but uh I feel like that's something my kid is like with judo right now. Oh yeah. It's like is he in judo this year? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Uh what same Tuesday, Thursday?
SPEAKER_03:Uh no, Monday, Wednesdays. Oh, well that's right. Monday, Wednesday, Saturday. Uh um yeah, no, he it's it's not like I have to like drag him, but like he it's always like, ah, do I like yes, you have to go, okay. And then he goes and he he loves it and has fun. Oh but it's always like that. He's he's very much a homebody.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, nice. Well nothing wrong with that. No, it's uh just gotta do things. Well it's being a homebody.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, just the habit of getting out of the house and just forcing yourself to start start the journey. Yeah, yeah. And then you're like, okay, now we're good. Even honestly, even doing this sometimes. Yeah, it's like I've never come here and been like, oh, I wish we wouldn't have done that. Yeah. But sometimes it's like, I don't want to leave my house right now. Yeah. But it's like, okay, fine, let's get going. It's just that it's like the process of like just getting in the car and getting, and then you're like, okay, fine. But it's and it's weird, it's because again, I've never come and be like, oh, I regret, I regret showing up and doing this. No, it's always funny.
SPEAKER_02:Fuck, finally, somebody else feels that way. Uh child's birthday parties. Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah, I am I supposed to invite my friends too.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I would assume you would, but it's okay. It's really like a you party, and then the kid gets presents.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, okay. And that's kind of what it felt like yesterday. And I was like, why didn't I invite all my other friends? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why you didn't. Number three. Number three is uh I fucked up.
SPEAKER_03:That's okay. We forgive me. I think at a certain age that changes, obviously. Like now when your kids get older and like they want their friends, they have the friends' party or whatever, then that's different. But like I think at this age, when they're really young, it's just about you hanging out with your friends. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and this is the thing. Uh shocker alert, we're all still learning how to like be human beings. Uh a friend of mine showed up yesterday, doesn't have kids, uh, and he showed up to the birthday party. And I was like, and he's not like really a kid person, but he showed up and I was like, Man, that like meant a lot. Like him showing up. I was like, that was like a bro move. Yeah. Uh so I kind of get it. My bad. It's all good. I didn't know you had a birth party till I got here today. So yeah, my bad. Okay. That's okay. Okay, okay. It's uh it's all good. You're gonna get invited to every other birthday party.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that was a false alarm. Oh, she didn't fall out of bed. No. Okay. My daughter fell out of bed and broke her collarbone when she was about three, maybe.
SPEAKER_02:Really? Like a like a like a child, like a child bed.
SPEAKER_03:Um, I don't remember how big it was. It wasn't like the it wasn't that high. It wasn't like a regular size bed. It was like a somewhat lower bed, but she still felt landed weird, ended up breaking her collarbone. It happened to be the same night uh we were having a team party. Oh, uh, and one of the first times that my wife has ever decided, let's get hammered tonight, uh, at a team party. So she was uh very drunk and yelling at uh one of our friends that we know uh who's been on this podcast, uh radical apathy member, Tanner, uh yelling at him to his face because he said basketball sucks. And she she didn't like that. It was like fake yelling, but it was it was pretty funny. Anyway, we had a phone call because my parents are looking after her. We got a phone call saying, Um, we think uh she might have to go to the hospital, I think. And we're like, what? So we got a ride home and then had to go to the hospital and get x-rays, and she had uh broken collarbone.
SPEAKER_02:Uh it was a whole thing. Your wife just bombed at the hospital.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, why do you wear white scrubs? She didn't, she wanted to come. I was like, I don't think it's a good idea. Because I wasn't, I was fine. Um, yeah. And it's hilarious because it was like what probably the only time in like five years that she decided to have some drinks. Never again. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Never again.
SPEAKER_03:So anyway. Your kid can get hurt falling out of a bed, I guess is the moral of that stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, no doubt. Uh she's still in the crib. I was that's why I was like, it's weird, but she's not in the crib. Turns out my wife is still in there. So good. Perfect. So she fell. Yeah, somebody fell. I don't know who fell. Everybody's okay. Perfect. Um, we should actually have Tanner on. We should have Tanner. It's been as our fourth guest.
SPEAKER_01:Oh.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay. And then you and Tanner can yell at each other.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, no. Uh he's too smart for me. I would just try and make silly jokes. But uh I like him. I think he's a nice guy. I would like to interact with him more. So I like him.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's a lot of people we work with. Yeah. There's just not enough time in the day to know everybody. That's true. But he's a nice guy. Super nice guy. Yeah. It's a podcast, you know. Like, it's okay. It's been a while since I've listened, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_01:Never? Well, I have like a bunch, and now in my new gig, I don't get to listen as much.
SPEAKER_03:It's good. I just haven't, it's been a while since I've had it, I've listened to it.
SPEAKER_01:I bet it's awesome because those two guys are hilarious. Yeah. Funny. It would be quite, quite funny.
SPEAKER_03:They're a lot more structured than us. Do they take calls? No, uh, I don't know. Maybe recently, I don't know, but they've uh they like that'd be hilarious. They research things and like yeah, they have.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, I I looked up uh Siesta, Spain.
SPEAKER_02:Good job. Nailed it. There's about zero preparation that goes into this podcast. But I like that. I like we just like it.
SPEAKER_03:Throughout the week, I sometimes think about things and I'm like, hey, we should talk about this, but then we sometimes do and sometimes don't.
SPEAKER_01:I think last time I was on, I had like ideas, and then we just went on tangents, and uh it was way better than my ideas I was gonna bring up.
SPEAKER_02:Do you still have them written down?
SPEAKER_01:No. That was days ago. I can't remember that.
SPEAKER_03:Those like four-inch inseam shorts?
SPEAKER_01:These are really short, yeah. Um, we're gonna go back to that. Uh body image issues. So I feel like I've always been a skinny bitch, and I was like, I'm gonna get jacked, right? So then I like up my calories to try and like gain some weight and whatever. And every time I do this, every time where I start to gain a little bit of weight, and like your body obviously changes, and then like my abs don't look the same, and then like I get these little bit of love handles. So then I've been trying to wear my pants higher because I think I gotta like hide my love handles or like reshape my contour. Them. Yeah, so then that's they are quite short.
SPEAKER_02:Like, do we need to get you some spanks?
SPEAKER_01:No, it's fine. I just we'll probably go back to just being my normal ways.
SPEAKER_03:I was gonna say, like, I think uh we all have this weird idea that we're gonna morph our body into something that is probably not, and in general, there's gonna be like some homeostasis that your body wants to get to, yeah, that is like just kind of your natural being. I'm not saying you can't put on more like muscle and that kind of stuff, for sure you can. Uh, but like the idea that I'm gonna get to like 190 jacked, and like I I guess, but like it's gonna take a ton of work, and then if I stop doing the thing to get there, I'm immediately gonna go back to 170 because that's what I always am.
SPEAKER_01:Totally.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you guys just like body fat set point kind of thing. Yeah, just like whatever you are, and like that's what I'm feeling right now, is like really soft. And when you just like your you haven't worked out and you just kind of like your arms are like a little flabby and you're like here, and the titties are kind of like oh Jack.
SPEAKER_01:Titty, that's fine. Just one, it's fine.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we're not shaming you for having one, boom. Thank you. You are the way you were created. That's right. Uh, but it's just like, yeah, and it just kind of spirals a little bit, and you're like, I need to get back to the gym, but I have excuses, X, Y, Z. It's the same thing with this fucking challenge. Like, yeah, day two, I end up working overtime till super late at night, and then I just get hold and I'm like, I'm going to fucking bed. I don't care. I'm just fucking going to bed. Yep.
SPEAKER_03:And I'm like, oh, well, that was fifty bucks. Gone. Yeah, it's not gone. We're gonna reinvest it. You gotta spend money to make money.
SPEAKER_01:What are you investing at? What's the what's the kitty for?
SPEAKER_03:Oh we're gonna get couches and rearrange the room slightly.
SPEAKER_02:Make a little bit more of a legit studio.
SPEAKER_03:And then actually maybe videotape it and then maybe actually put it on YouTube and then maybe actually try to get followers. Yeah. And then maybe one day make five dollars.
SPEAKER_02:Why why would we wear masks? What kind of mask do you want to wear? Like a luchador or one. Like this is kind of weird. Like you can wear it when you come if you have one. I don't. Uh that is the cool thing about being like super privileged and like having a room in your house where you're like, I can literally turn it into a podcast studio and I don't need the space. Yeah. You know what I like about you in your house?
SPEAKER_01:Uh you have this room, and yes, it's like a dedicated office podcast studio. Uh, I have a similar room, but it's just junk and like kids' toys and like crap, and it drives me crazy. Um why don't you make it into something? Is my wife won't let me I want so badly to like bring the gym inside.
SPEAKER_03:Is this the room right to get into the house to the right?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, and it's just like it's meant to be this like nice, grandiose like dining room, and right now it's like a kid's disaster area with there's no doors either, right?
SPEAKER_03:No, yeah, you can't even hide it. You want to put your gym in there?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because when we lived at the other house, I had our gym inside, um, and it was awesome because there's like no excuses, even like that little separation like to the garage or whatever. It's like, no, the gym's right there. So then the kids could play in it, I could work out. It was wicked, right? Um, and I I kind of miss that.
SPEAKER_03:Can't be a weird spot though, right? The front of your house. Yeah, I know. It's I know. My house is too far now.
SPEAKER_01:I mean it's it's not gonna happen. Then like my garage gym is also wicked, but and your wife won't let you? No. I spent too much money on the gym stuff already.
unknown:Darn it.
SPEAKER_02:You would you would hit the ceiling if you were like doing overhead, like yeah, probably. Probably. And this is like nine foot ceilings. Yeah. You're like a nine-foot tall person.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gigantic, I know.
SPEAKER_02:Uh are you the tallest person in the nursing home? I don't think so. Second tallest?
SPEAKER_01:Uh probably.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, second maybe. How tall are you? Like six, six? Six, seven. Six, seven. What the fuck? He's a foot taller than me. One foot.
SPEAKER_01:We measured that we measured one day. That was fun.
SPEAKER_02:But you know what the weird thing about height is, is you're three, four inches. You're four inches taller than me. But I feel like a child when I look at you. How do you think I feel?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know because I'm not in your body, but I feel like you I had to go to call with him and the other guy on the team that was six foot six. And I'm like, I feel like it's take your son to work day. And I shouldn't be that. But what am I do what am I doing here? Why am I here?
SPEAKER_01:Uh you're just there because uh you're smart and uh yeah. But it's funny, so like previous life, uh, I was never tall, like on the basketball court. I was like middle of the pack guy. So then like after that part of my life ended, it was kind of like oh yeah, I'm not normal. I am kind of tall, I guess.
SPEAKER_03:It's weird. That's what's so crazy about basketball. Like, I uh went to that NCAA game that was in town here. Oh yeah. And they were calling out the starting lineup, and you saw um, I can't remember. They I think the one of the guys that called him was, hey, it's 6'4 from wherever. Like, oh man, that guy's pretty tall. And then they see him stand up and walk through the other players, and you can't even see him because he's like the shortest one on the team. He's a point guard. Yeah, yeah, he's yeah. And you're like, what? That's guy's 6'4. And you realize, okay, I know guys are 6'4, and they're pretty tall. Uh, he is tiny compared. He's he's a foot shorter than the other guys who are seven foot four.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. There's some mutants walking around out there. Seven foot four.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know if I've ever seen a person that tall in my life. Seven foot is like standard at these at these NCAA.
SPEAKER_01:Everybody's got a footer on their team. Yeah. Yeah, like a seven footer. Yeah. When I he played at U of L when I played at uh college, there's a dude who's seven foot two who played on the U of L and we're like we'd scrimmage with him all the time. And it was like, yeah, he's a big, giant, tall guy. And he was cool. He could like skateboard, which is weird to like think that snap his legs in half. No, he was good.
SPEAKER_03:Uh that Wemby guy, how tall is he?
SPEAKER_01:Seven foot five.
SPEAKER_03:And then his arms are like his span is like nine feet.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he could probably dunk without jumping off the ground.
SPEAKER_03:Have you ever seen that picture of that dude? We saw him live. I don't think so. Uh there's a he's from is he Fran French? France. From France, France. Uh there's a picture of him. It looks like do you remember um Space Jam? Where Michael Jordan jumps and he then he realizes he's in like a cartoon, and so his arms stretch out. Like he it this guy looks like that for real, like in real life. There's a picture of him like putting his arms out, and you have to like look at and you're like, that's not that that's doctored, it can't be right. But it is his arms are so freaking long, it just looks so messed up. It it blows my mind.
SPEAKER_01:We yeah, we went to see them uh no two years ago. Uh and it was Spurs versus Nuggets, and he's playing against a guy who's six foot ten, and he's just like towers over this six foot ten guy. I'm trying to find a photo. I don't know if I can find it.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna I'm gonna see Sean too because it's I'm bad at finding photos. Are both your parents really tall?
SPEAKER_01:No, like my mom's like five eight, and then my dad's like six two.
SPEAKER_02:What the heck happened?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I just uh lucky, I guess. Weird. Oh, that's way too good.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god. Yeah, let me see that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like that. Yeah, he's like that doesn't look real.
SPEAKER_03:I just just search Google, search picture of Wemby, and it's like one of the fourth ones. I think it's like fourth one that pop up, and it's like him reaching out stopping somebody shooting, yeah, and it doesn't look real.
SPEAKER_01:And he's like very coordinated and like super agile. Like he's he's an alien.
SPEAKER_02:He's yeah. These are the kind of people when they find the skeleton, they're like, There's aliens in this. Yeah, completely.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03:That like that looks fake. Is that not fake?
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, no, that's real. That is so weird.
SPEAKER_03:No, but still, his arms are as long as his body, I think.
SPEAKER_01:He went and like uh was training in like a Buddhist temple this offseason and stuff, and like uh yeah, he's just a neat, neat guy. It looks like someone made a video game.
SPEAKER_03:It looks like somebody made a video game character and messed up the arm length. Yeah. Like they made it just too long.
SPEAKER_01:He was just yeah, bred to be a basketball player. Crazy. Yeah, he's awesome. He seems like a cool guy. He's 19. Oh, he's gonna be like reaching over 10. He's super young. He's probably like 21 now, maybe, but like when he started, he was 19.
SPEAKER_03:It's too bad he's gonna die before he's 30. What? Well tall people don't live very long.
unknown:Shh.
SPEAKER_01:It's true. It's uh the great danger.
SPEAKER_03:I all I all I say is have you ever seen a tall person in a nursing home?
SPEAKER_01:I don't like where this is going. This is true. It's uh if I get to 80, I'll be still. Yeah, live your best life. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Uh live in the moment, uh, go on more, stay hard. Oh, uh yeah.
SPEAKER_02:What's the cap for like tall people?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I don't know, I don't know what the number is.
SPEAKER_01:Like lots of I always keep track of the old retired basketball players. Uh like like the 80s. Like these guys, granted, they're millionaires and they like live pretty good lives. Um, but yeah, if I could hit 80s, I'd be pretty stoked.
SPEAKER_03:I think if any of us could hit 80s, right?
SPEAKER_01:Like that's I'm laughing if I hit it.
SPEAKER_03:110 or bucks.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's not happening. It's good for you.
SPEAKER_02:I don't want to die.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, me neither. But it's gonna happen. It makes me sad and had panic attacks.
SPEAKER_02:Uh really feel like calendar, right?
SPEAKER_01:You know what's funny? Like, it just speaks to how good certain things are. Uh obviously, I have some underlying issues that I should probably go talk to somebody about. Um, but like I like my uh my little my beverages that I have. Um I go through like the phases where it's like warm, warmness, and then like there's like a giddy phase, and then there's like panic attack phase, and then it's like existential angst. Yeah, totally, and then like and now sleepy time. And then like and I know it's gonna happen every time I have a drink, but I'm like, I'm still gonna have a drink tonight. You know what I mean? Like it like that just speaks to how good it is, I guess.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not like I'm not I don't know what it is, but like I'm just not I don't mind that that feeling. I just I would rather get buzzed, like drink wine and get or even beer, or not really beer, probably drink wine and get buzzed, and I'm I will I like that way better.
SPEAKER_01:I think I do too, but I've just been on this kick of not drinking for like two years now because I think for whatever reason that having another beverage is eating candy is better for my body than having one to kid.
SPEAKER_03:There's probably data that shows that it is better for you in some like from a health perspective. Mental health is not great. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I might like I had that thought too when we went on the boys' trip and we went to oh Utah. And I was like, well, like it's gonna be hard enough to get a drink here, let alone like another Jeffree drink. Uh so I just had like cokes and stuff, and I was like, if I had a tequila, it would make like this game more fun, right? Like, why am I being so weird about this? Like, I I'm not an alcoholic. I could drink beer, well, not beer, but uh tequila if I want to, right? Like, but then I I kind of have that addictive personality where like, oh, I'm on a streak, like uh just gotta keep going. Let's keep the streak going.
SPEAKER_03:Which is I think a good it's a good thing in general, but I think yeah, allowing yourself that that grace to you know do some do things like every now and then.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, so maybe I'll go on the 30-day challenge. Tequila every day for 30 days.
SPEAKER_03:I like it. Yeah, one tequila every day. Yeah, one bottle of tequila.
SPEAKER_02:See how it goes. I'm here for you if you want to do that. Okay. Like I'm not gonna join you, but I want you to do that. Oh. Tequila every day for 30 days. I don't know if I could. Uh I think you could do it. I think you can do anything you put your mind to. That's true. We clearly can't do anything for 30 days. That's true.
SPEAKER_01:And like there's no there's no giving this challenge. It's like you gotta do every day.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. I'm curious if Jason's still doing it. Oh, he's not. There's no chance.
SPEAKER_03:There's zero chance that he's still doing it. Broken like this. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Watching the hunting wives on repeat. Yes.
SPEAKER_03:It's so bad. You should not watch that. I watched it a seven times. Uh that's what he's like.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You shouldn't watch it. It's not good. It's really, it's really dirty.
SPEAKER_01:Close the door. Uh yeah, it's very dirty. It's a weird smut novel turned into a TV show. That's exactly what it is. Yes, it is. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, it's time to go home. I'm got stuff I gotta do tonight.
SPEAKER_01:So makes food.
SPEAKER_03:Uh thanks everyone for listening. Please. Oh, yeah, don't touch your that was stupid. That was there. That was dumb. Uh thanks for listening. Check us out on Instagram, even though the person who runs that doesn't uh do anything. Do we have we have an Instagram? We do. You run you run it, but we do and we do have one.
SPEAKER_01:I send funny videos to it, so and I do appreciate that.
SPEAKER_03:I do have a funny video. Actually, you do use it, but that's the only thing you use it for.
SPEAKER_01:Got you.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I've been sending you some uh moon landing and alien videos lately.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, and I I started watching the moon landing one you sent me. I know we I know you're trying to end this, but hold on. Hold on, holding on. Hold on. I can hold on to the moon landing.
SPEAKER_03:Did Elon Musk say that the moon landing was impossible? Uh no, I don't think he's ever said that. I think but I think what he said was something about the fact that you would need to refuel or have X amount of rockets to get it to happen. And they're like, that technology didn't exist then. It's something like that. So is the moon landing fake? I think I'm uh I'm leaning more to yes than I have than no in my mind. Okay. I'm also watching a show on Apple TV called For All Mankind. And it's about moon landing, but the kind of twist is that Russia gets there first and then they're kind of fighting, and it's interesting, but uh I don't think we went to the moon if I'm being if I had to put money on it, I think I would say we didn't do it in the 60s. I think I'm with you. I have less information than you, but just like my gut feeling is um I just think it's too convenient. It just that the timing was like, oh wait, this has to happen because it's important that it happens right now, and go look at this, look at everyone's on the moon.
SPEAKER_01:Also, like what an interesting thing to be like classified as important, right? We need to go let people on this place over there just because.
SPEAKER_03:But it was it was just to show like like uh that our country our country is more dominant than Russia and that we did it, so you're so we're better, obviously, because of that. Obviously, like I don't know which is a pretty good motivator for faking it completely.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know, sure. I think it's I think meanwhile in Canada we're like Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Job guys. I yeah, I don't have a nothing of value.
SPEAKER_01:You want some able syrup, boys?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's interesting. There's more and more coming out about it, but uh in terms of like people saying this is just it makes no sense. The technology didn't exist, and that we have in like the technology we have on our phones is more than they had computing power in the 60s total.
SPEAKER_02:But didn't they just land somebody on the or something on the moon? Like a company just landed some shit on the moon. I think so, but I think it's all like unmanned stuff. Like they've done that for a long time. Like if it's what's the difference between putting a few more hundred pounds of people on the spaceship.
SPEAKER_03:I think like life support things and like the radiation issues and I don't know. Is it made of cheese?
SPEAKER_02:Maybe what's on the dark side of the moon?
SPEAKER_01:Uh an album by Pink Floyd.
SPEAKER_02:Oh whoa! Sorry. Okay, so fuck you. Okay, okay, so So sorry. Is there aliens on the dark side of the moon? I don't know. I don't does anybody know?
SPEAKER_01:I don't. Uh I don't know anything.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I don't know what to believe anymore in general. Uh, but I'm leaning to we did nobody went to the moon in the 60s. Well, I know what rabbit hole I'm going down tonight.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, get it. Get it. So much. You're not gonna sleep tonight. You guys watch Elio? No. No. You probably will soon. It's like a kid's show, you'll probably watch it. Uh pretty good. But they talk about like space garbage, and I was like, ah, like if a space garbage is so bad that they're talking about it in like kids' shows.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but that's uh yeah, no, that's not true. Because kids' shows have become propaganda films, is what they become. Get them. Get them, Jamie. A lot of them have. Alright.
SPEAKER_02:See ya. Did the moon landing?
SPEAKER_01:We're gonna find out next podcast. Stay tuned.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, if you can just research that uh thoroughly before the next podcast. You betcha.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, thorough research.
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