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The Average Superior Podcast
This show features three nursing home attendants who have realized their brains are incomplete and their bodies are always in pain. They are peasants outside the castle walls attempting to navigate a world that feels rigged while simultaneously trying to be 1000% sure about things they know nothing about!
The Average Superior Podcast
# 77 - Bad Backs
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SPEAKER_00:Nobility is being superior to all. Everyone feels the same way you do. Alright? What do you do right now makes it different?
SPEAKER_03:I need it though. I'm supporting an Male's living in my rental. Completely completely support. I gave him the notice. Kick him out. There's a lot of steps. Yeah, there's a lot of steps. Yeah, it's it's uh quite a bit of steps. Yeah, because I am tempted to offer him a couple thousand dollars just to leave.
SPEAKER_05:I know you've been gone for a while, but like if you just lift that mic like up an inch, it's gonna help you.
SPEAKER_03:Like this? Oh, that actually makes a little more sense. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm tempted to just give him money so he leaves. That's that's terrible, but it would get him out of my hair.
SPEAKER_02:It's the principle of it. I tell you what, give me a couple thousand dollars and I'll do the legwork to get him evicted.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, um, no. That'd be like what's the difference? You losing your job?
SPEAKER_05:No, but like a court legwork.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, no, no, if you want to go straight three three, four months. Yeah, never mind. I thought like three, four months that you've I can put in paperwork, it's not a big deal.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it sounds like a big deal because you're willing to pay him.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because the paperwork will take a couple months, and if I paid him$2,000, then he would leave and I could have a new people in there.
SPEAKER_02:It's like giving a dog a treat for shitting on the floor. I know, it's such a terrible thing.
SPEAKER_03:I went down a Reddit thread where landlords were talking about just paying their tenants off and how they just but then it's someone else's problem. So he'll move into another place and then uh not pay them rent. So But it's it's the the the choice I made. So it is what it is.
SPEAKER_02:It's not what it is.
SPEAKER_03:No, I can't do anything about it. I'm not I'm not mad.
SPEAKER_02:You can do something about it.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah, I am doing those things. But those things take time because it's they take like 30 days.
SPEAKER_05:If you're just joining us, we're talking about uh current uh rental mishaps. Yeah, some people are squatting. Uh freeloading. This is why owning properties is good and bad at the same time.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, you know where you don't have this problem is Airbnbs.
SPEAKER_05:Um I'm sure that you there's could be other problems.
SPEAKER_03:Can if somebody stays in an Airbnb, can they just stay there and squat in it? Or that's innkeeper stuff, you just kick them out.
SPEAKER_05:What about if they trash the house? Airbnb has insurance. Uh that still could be a hassle.
SPEAKER_02:I haven't had to deal with it.
SPEAKER_03:Is there any talk about Alberta being like the BC? Well, there's always talking about it. And go on hardcore about the about Airbnb VRBOing or whatever. Liberalism. Yeah, well, okay, that's fair enough.
SPEAKER_05:Welcome back to the Abbott Spirit Podcast, episode number 77. Wow. I believe I think it's 77. I think you're right. It's a good number. I like 77. It's 6'7. No, you idiot.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I know I hate it so much. You don't know, do you? We talked about this.
SPEAKER_02:Was it the last podcast?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. Did I miss the last one?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you did. Did you not listen to it?
SPEAKER_03:No, I didn't.
SPEAKER_02:I completely forgot. What do you mean? Did I miss the last one? You've been horizontal in your house for three weeks.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's true. Watching just clips of the states falling apart. That's all I've been doing.
SPEAKER_05:Uh let's let's talk about this. Uh, you injured your back.
SPEAKER_03:One of the many people at the table to injured their back in the last couple of years.
SPEAKER_05:Well, I would say I haven't, I didn't injure my back. I just say my back is injured.
SPEAKER_03:I actually hurt hurt.
SPEAKER_05:You did something. There was an audible sound, and there was a specific moment in time when you know your back was injured. Uh mine's just muscle tightness. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, mine it was a pop. A pop. I felt like I got smacked in the lower back, like somebody punched me there. Okay, you can't.
SPEAKER_05:And then my leg went and you're picking up like a dumbbell? Yeah, pretty much just bent over. 400 pound dumbbell.
SPEAKER_03:Not even close.
SPEAKER_05:450 pound dumbbell.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Okay. 100%. Was it no?
SPEAKER_02:Was it under 40 pounds? 100% it was. Was it under 20 pounds?
SPEAKER_03:No, it was 35 pounds. 35 pounds, but there was two of them, and I just picked them up with like a rounded back and I went to jerk them up really fast just to just to curl them. And uh yeah, I just yeah, it was it was weird. I've never hurt hurt myself like like in my back like that.
SPEAKER_02:So you injured yourself. Is it hurt or injured? Which injured I would say it's injured. I think that's an injury. I'd say I'd you were just hurt.
SPEAKER_03:Use a hurt, I'm an injure.
SPEAKER_02:You were you were milking it pretty hard though.
SPEAKER_05:I'm hurt now. I'm I honestly it goes back and forth. Like it uh Friday last week I felt like almost perfect, and then Saturday it was like I paid for feeling good.
SPEAKER_02:You know those videos uh that people take on Instagram? It's like the time lapse of them working on it's really stupid where it's just I'm like going really fast. They're using a jackhammer.
SPEAKER_05:I'm confused. What was that? Yeah. Just that jackhammer. Is this charades?
SPEAKER_03:If that's not what I'm gonna guess, I'm not gonna guess jackhammer.
SPEAKER_02:That's just what I picture you doing, is those people that take the time-lapse videos of them like picking stuff and putting stuff up down really fast. Yeah, that's that's what happened.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. That's what you did. But I did bad form. Like rounded back, jerked it up. Dude, it's 35 pounds.
SPEAKER_05:70.
SPEAKER_03:It's it's 70, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Whatever. Okay, so anyway, you did that, you uh uh took some rebaxaset, saw a witch doctor.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was I I did the dumbest thing ever is I went to the chiropractor about three hours after it, and he went and he did one adjustment. He's like, you know what? He's like, I shouldn't be doing this. We're just gonna put you in the red light bed. And then the next day we had a love that he did one first though.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, he did the thing uh, you know what?
SPEAKER_03:Just presses on the lower back, and then the table gives out, like it has that give to it, and it snaps lower. Uh-huh. So we did that, and he's like, hmm, let's not do this. I'm like, okay, what happened there? But I broke your spine. And then the next day I was really dumb and I took a bunch more muscle relaxants and did like that that barbecue thing. Yeah. Where it's just cooking and moving stuff around, and then the next day I woke up and I couldn't move for about a week. And I put put my VR headset on. I flew a plane a bunch, so I'm getting really confident in that, and then I played some games. That's a really good Did you watch any shows? Yeah, Invincible started Invincible. Okay. Uh haven't finished it though, but it is so good.
SPEAKER_05:Did you get to the bottom of whether we landed on the moon?
SPEAKER_03:No. I started going down the alien rabbit hole, and then I started talking to my wife, like just talking conspiracy theories, and she told me I need to settle down with that stuff. So then I started flying a plane in VR. That's that's literally I had to stop myself because I was. If you have nothing to do, you have so much time.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, if you were unemployed, I I can see why you would go crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I actually do see those people, the conspiracy theorists who don't have a job because all they have is time in their mind, and it's not a good combination for me.
SPEAKER_02:I think the moon landing happened. Okay. We don't need to get into this because we did this last time. Well we do, because we didn't really get into it last time. Okay, I don't know how we come to this conclusion.
SPEAKER_03:We've got into it before.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know how you've come to this conclusion. Well, because I I started listening to some podcasts with a guy, his name's Bart Sabrell. He was on he was on Rogan. Yep. But I listened to him on a I found a podcast called the Danny Jones podcast, and he's just like, you'll love it. It's just conspiracy theories and shit. But he just his argument fucking sucked. He's not the only guy out there. I know, but with so much.
SPEAKER_03:So one person's argument has turned you off and have a ton of time.
SPEAKER_02:But he's like, oh, the shadow this way, and then there's a shadow that way, and like um the radiation belt, and you know, we don't even have the technology today to go to the moon, which I don't know if that's true, because like we send shit to Mars.
SPEAKER_03:I feel like we do have the technology, but not people.
SPEAKER_02:I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:But we have we have the technology to be but why not?
SPEAKER_05:They can go to the moon. I'm not gonna spend because they can space that, but we haven't done it. And so the question is spacewalk. That that's that's very different than sending someone to a different spot in the middle.
SPEAKER_03:No, but like they can walk outside of a space station, they can land on Mars. Yeah, but that's like a mile outside of Earth.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Uh the point is, like, I I just if it was easy, if it was if it should be easy now based on technology advances. Katie Perry's been to space. Let's just be honest. Shut up.
SPEAKER_03:Prove me wrong. Shut you up.
SPEAKER_05:Has Katie been a side Is that a conspiracy? She is she an astronaut? Technically, yes. No. Yeah. No.
SPEAKER_03:If you fly into space, you're an astronaut.
SPEAKER_05:No, no, you're not. If you've trained your whole life to become an astronaut, then you're an astronaut. It's not just like the fact that you jumped on something and took a flight up into the air. Are you a pilot because you went from point A to point B in a plane?
SPEAKER_03:No, but I feel like everybody on the spaceship is an astronaut. No, they're not. I was I was with the. Okay, the person flying, like the person manipulating that spaceship is an astronaut. Yeah. But what about like so? What about all the guys in Armageddon? They're all astronauts.
SPEAKER_05:No, they're not. The the oil people? Yes. Okay, you there's a better argument that they were astronauts because they actually, in the movie, did some training to go into space and become and do something. I think Katie Perry's an astronaut. No, she's oh I'm gonna I'm gonna lose it. I'm going to go to the house. Okay, what is she just a passenger then? Yes. She was a passenger that didn't barely broke the orbit of the or the freaking Earth. She broke the orbit for ten minutes.
SPEAKER_03:Whatever. Ten minutes.
SPEAKER_02:I was with Jason until you made your pilot argument, and now I'm with you.
SPEAKER_03:That was a really good argument, but at the same time, it's just not a good thing.
SPEAKER_02:Because like the games from NASA? Yes. They do shit. Yes, and they were trained.
SPEAKER_05:Their whole they it's like rigorous training, and like they have to know things to become an astronaut. You're not a plumber just because you flushed. That's exactly it. Thank you. That is exactly all the memes that came out because the Katie Perry and the other those other ladies, oh yeah, we're astronauts now. Oh, and then that other one. There's all the memes where somebody turns the light off. I'm an electricity. According to NASA, I'm an electrician because I shut off the lights. Do you want to know what says if you I will I'm gonna lose the literally from NASA?
SPEAKER_03:A person who rides in a spaceship is called an astronaut.
SPEAKER_02:Well then a person who rides in a plane is called a plateau.
SPEAKER_03:Or it encompasses all individuals trained to work and travel into space and private space missions. Including SpaceX, and that's that it's the same thing. There's also referred to as a space track. Or a space flight participant.
SPEAKER_05:They're not astronauts, and if you say so again, I'm I sidetracked it enough that we're not talking about the moon letting it. Yeah, and I'm thank you for that.
SPEAKER_03:There we go.
SPEAKER_05:Uh let's go back to your back. So your back uh sucks, and it's been better recently, though?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, getting better. Uh they think it might be a herniated disc, but I'm gonna wait another two weeks.
SPEAKER_05:So, like, how do they determine that? Scans?
SPEAKER_03:MRI.
SPEAKER_05:And have you not had one?
SPEAKER_03:No, if if if I can get more mobility back in two weeks, he's like, there's no point. It wasn't, but if it just doesn't get better, then do they fix themselves?
SPEAKER_05:Do herniated disks fix themselves?
SPEAKER_03:They do usually with exercise, and if they don't, then it's uh then it's in there.
SPEAKER_05:Are you exercising?
SPEAKER_03:No, because I'm not allowed to for another week.
SPEAKER_05:Then how would your herniated discs fix itself if you aren't exercising that it's going to fix itself with exercise?
SPEAKER_03:Once the inflammation goes down enough and I can exercise, then you can work it back kind of with spinal decompression. But he doesn't he doesn't want to do that right away because it's still pressing on. It's a doctor, but honestly, I'm not impressed with the way he hasn't even touched me, essentially. It's all just like I sit in a chair and I tell him my stuff and he writes it down and he doesn't analyze anything.
SPEAKER_05:I'm like, only we had technology these days where you could do things to figure stuff out, like scans.
SPEAKER_03:Even just put a finger on my back to make me feel like you're analyzing a body correctly.
SPEAKER_05:I feel like it's very I feel like you should go to Reiki and they should just like it's the same hands above your back. It's a chiropractor, I think. Yeah. Well, at least they touched them. Chiropractor touches you.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, but he may probably made it worse. Whatever.
SPEAKER_03:100% he did. It was my fault for going there. Anyway, I suck, but yeah, I'll get better. And then when I'm better, all I'm doing is core exercises and flexibility. Oh, no, you're not. I think I what yeah. I here's the thing though, and we've all been there where you get you get hurt, and you're like, when I'm better, I'm doing all this stuff, and then you get better and you do all that stuff for like a month, and then you just work back into your chest day bicep back day and no stretching and all that junk, right? Yeah. I'm very concerned. I'm gonna go back to that and then pop my back out again.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. But just don't pick up weights. Or at least like pick them up slower. Or at least bending your knees.
SPEAKER_03:Let's get it before. I know, I know.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, so your back's better, or it's getting better. Yeah, it's gonna get better when you start working out, but you can't work out yet, so it'll never get better. Got it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I I wrote you off for a solid two months. Yeah, but I was the one just like you're gonna be a temp a semi-permanent fill-in.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I did all the oils, all like I bathed Epson's, like every top every type of essential oil, everything, everything witchcraft style stuff I could do, I did. Took two, I can think I overdosed on two.
SPEAKER_05:Can I ask how essential oils fix a herniated disc in your back?
SPEAKER_03:Because the herniated disc caused a muscle strain, so I used peppermint oil with some lavender and it would rub it on my back. Does that and that would kind of just it helped. It decreases inflammation. Does it not, does peppermint oil not decrease inflammation? I don't know. It does. Uh anyway, I did a bunch of stuff like that. I literally did everything in the book.
SPEAKER_02:Does okay but when you got your palm read, did it say that you were gonna have a bad thing?
SPEAKER_01:Essential oils are a thing, and they totally help.
SPEAKER_02:They're not.
SPEAKER_03:How are yes, essential oils do help in certain ways. You if you got like a dehumidifier for your kids' room if they have a cold and put like a humid, I think humidifier or dehumidifier. Oh, sorry, humidifier, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Um That's but that's just because of moisture in the air. Like that helps because of the moisture in the air.
SPEAKER_03:You put some mint oil in there, it's gonna open them up a little more.
SPEAKER_02:I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to use essential oils and breathe them into your lungs. It's like vacuum.
SPEAKER_01:Well, okay. Well, maybe okay. I'm gonna look that up later.
SPEAKER_05:Have you tried rubbing like Ann's blood or something on your back? Uh I think like heat and like cold and I'll tell you what, I'm doing more than my doctor's doing.
SPEAKER_03:All right, she's just sitting there, typing up the WCB report, and then that's it.
SPEAKER_05:Tell me how that make you feel. Yeah, it's weird.
SPEAKER_03:Um, but yes, I got a lot of the the weirdest thing was about a weekend when I'm just laying there, I got a lot of text messages from people that I don't usually text or talk with from work. Um just plus 40 guys who just told me their story about their back injury, just texted me the whole story and texted me the things they've learned, all that kind of stuff. So it was actually kind of cool. Essential oil is one of them. That a lot of people wait Okay, fuck off with it. It's cool to be.
SPEAKER_05:I'm just asking, I'm asking where you got that from. I I don't know. These are one of the guys' stories. I fixed it. I was bathing in mint oil.
SPEAKER_03:Katie Katie Perry swears by it. I swear. After she went to space and was an astronaut that one time, she swears by essential oils. Probably. But now I'm part of an old man club who who uh who have hurt their backs essentially.
SPEAKER_05:Uh I'm glad that I just have muscle pain because I don't want to be in that club.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's not fun.
SPEAKER_02:I've never taken a muscle relaxant. Oh, dude, I got messed up off of Robax.
SPEAKER_05:Robax is that messes me up. I did not try your pills.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god, don't. I took I took three of them, and I'm like, this is not even a thing, like it's not good. Okay, well maybe it's like a psycho psych cyclobenzaprene or something like that, and it's like a muscle relaxant. Slash hallucinogen, it just go right to sleep. And you sleep good, but it's like this is this is a little overkill, I feel.
SPEAKER_02:Your doctor's just handing them out. How many do you need? A hundred?
SPEAKER_05:Uh well he's like, how many how how you were a doctor and like you could mess with people like that and give them like um here's a muscle relaxant, but there's like some hallucinogenic factors in it. But don't tell them that, that would be amazing. Do not take this while driving, but it's a really good relaxant. Does Robaxaset make you hallucinate? Uh no, but like I get really like I feel very high. Really? Just like uh Benad Benadryl, Ben. Oh yeah. Benelin. The one, the cough, the cough one.
SPEAKER_03:That's Benelin.
SPEAKER_05:That's Benil Benelin. Drill is the ML. Benelin messes me up. I think it's the DMX DMX. DMT. DMX.
SPEAKER_03:Is it DMT sounds serious? I don't think it's that.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah. I think it's DMX.
SPEAKER_02:Isn't that what people mix cough syrup?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah and make uh what's what's the drink call? What do they call it? Scip scissorp. Yes. That's right. Is it really?
SPEAKER_05:Something like that. Sizurp. It's something like that. Uh yeah, I think it's that that in it really screws with my head. I get very like lightheaded and people die from that, don't they? Well, yeah, because they they get it and like they concentrate it. So they take they somehow figure out a way to like cook that set stuff out of it or keep that stuff and cook everything else off and have like a really concentrated version of if only we had someone Googling this DMX or whatever. I feel like I I I think it's wrong because DMX is the rapper, and that's what I keep thinking is wrong.
SPEAKER_02:Something like that. Can you please look this up? He's too busy texting.
SPEAKER_03:I'm sorry. My my my squatter was texting me, actually. DM DMX? DMT.
SPEAKER_05:Look at the active ingredient in benel benelin. Or cough syrup, I think, in general.
SPEAKER_03:Wow, my typing has gotten worse. Alright, what do we got?
SPEAKER_05:It's Dextromethyl something. DM something.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, there it is. Dextrometh Dextromethorphin. Or methan?
SPEAKER_05:There's no X.
SPEAKER_03:Dextromethorphin.
SPEAKER_05:What's the like uh acronym at the end? Or just DM? Yeah. There's no X. That's just the rapper, guys. Everyone listening. The rapper's. Well there is.
SPEAKER_03:There's like D Dex. Dextrro. There's an X in Dextrom.
SPEAKER_05:I know that, but is there any abbreviation of DMX for this thing?
SPEAKER_03:Did DMX stand for something or was that just his acronym? I don't know. Look that up too. That's an interesting thing. We're going now around. Do you remember? Do you remember him? Uh yes. Did you listen to Rough Riders?
SPEAKER_05:I listened to DMX. Oh yeah. He was also in the movie Exit Wounds, which was filmed in Calgary, Alberta. It was?
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_04:I didn't know.
SPEAKER_03:Demon Sagal. Yep. There's a there's a like a quad chasing. There's a quad chasing scene in that movie, I think, where hey Yeah, that is Center Street? Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Nice. Uh look up what DMX stands for.
SPEAKER_03:What do you think it stands for? Nothing.
SPEAKER_05:Well, it probably stands for something.
SPEAKER_03:He died of an overdose, I want to say. Coster? No. No. No, he died of a Earl Simmons was the name. He died in 2021. Dark Man X.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Weird. X's gonna give it to you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's right. Is that the one song you know?
SPEAKER_02:I I got a few DMX songs on the old playlist.
SPEAKER_03:He formed a good group called Rough Riders, um, and they had a lot of good songs. Bubba Sparks was in there, a big fan of Bubba Sparks. Eve.
SPEAKER_02:Eve? You say that like I should know that. You don't know who Eve is? Eve. You know who Eve is? Eve's got some good tunes.
SPEAKER_03:She's got some good songs. She was part of Rough Riders for a while, too. Okay. Didn't know that. Yeah, it was a good little group.
SPEAKER_02:Can we play a game where you read out what your squad have sent you via text message? I don't think we should.
SPEAKER_03:No, this one, uh this one, no. I just asked about a furnace filter.
SPEAKER_02:So like you're he like you're gonna pay for it for him. Fuck.
SPEAKER_03:Essentially, yes. That's the part.
SPEAKER_02:Are you paying for his groceries too?
SPEAKER_03:No. His gas I am now, because I guess you can't you can't legally shut off the utilities to a rental if they're not paying.
SPEAKER_02:Of course, because they have more rights than the person who has been lawful owner of the property.
SPEAKER_01:I knew this going into it. It's all good. They were great for five years. So give him a little grace.
SPEAKER_05:I got a new phone today, and it's currently doing some updates and downloading my old stuff. So I had I came here with no phone. Do you know how weird it is? Is it nice? It's weird. Again, it shouldn't be weird. Why are we so connected? I got in my car, I was like, oh man, I don't have a phone. Okay, like, hey, just go before I left my wife. But if something's happening right now, just so you know, I'm not gonna have my phone. If you need to get hold of me, I don't have a phone. Okay. And I was like, Okay, no phone. I'm about to stop and get groceries after, but I don't have a phone. Yeah, welcome to you. You can't you can't tell me what you can't tell me what you need if you don't tell me right now. Got no phone. And as I get in the car, I was like, Okay, this is weird. It's it's a weird. Thing probably feels it's probably nice, yeah. Uh I think if you did it for a while, it would. I think you it you feel like you forgot something all the time without it.
SPEAKER_03:I think when your life gets less busy, like when the kid when your kids maybe move out of the house, it might be a nice thing just to maybe just to go on a little vacation, no phones.
SPEAKER_05:Uh I don't I don't know. It's just it's weird, like because it just feels like you like you've forgot something consistently.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, what are you gonna do with all those red lights? Good point.
SPEAKER_03:What here's a question. So let's say you'll say you're older, let's say it's 20 years from now, you're on the cruise with no phone. What level is I wouldn't be on a cruise? Okay, just you're not gonna c you're all included. Whatever, you're just not in Canada. What level of emergency would it take for you to like for you to say, okay, kids, this you need to contact me if this happens?
SPEAKER_04:Somebody dies or is like going to die.
SPEAKER_03:I'm on I'm on board with a going to die. Like a severe accident. I'm on I'm on board with a going to die.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, or died. One of my kids gets killed. I'm coming home.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Fair enough. What if your house burns down?
SPEAKER_05:Uh yeah, I think you it it I wouldn't care. Would you want to know? Yeah, again, I don't, and in the end, to be honest, I don't really I wouldn't care, I don't think. Other than it's probably I'd gotta do a couple of steps to get the insurance thing rolling.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but do you need to do that when you're on vacation? Shouldn't you?
SPEAKER_05:You probably could do that from the vacation, although they probably want pictures and to send somebody to the site and make sure you didn't hire a buddy to come burn it down while you're gone. I would I wouldn't want to know.
SPEAKER_03:I would want to land back in Canada and then I would find out then. Okay, so I'd be totally fine if my kids did not tell me.
SPEAKER_05:I've been watching the show For All Mankind on Apple TV, which is about actually people going to the moon. Surprisingly. I know full circle. But uh yeah, we're not talking about the moon. But anyway, uh at one point in the first season, guys by himself on the moon on a base, and his kid gets hit by a car on Earth, and the decision with the wife was like, Yeah, we can't tell him. Like, he can't do anything about it. And anyway, he ends up finding out. But um, I yeah, 100% in that case, where it's like you can't get home, you know, you don't have an option.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, yeah, I agree. Mind on the mission, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I it doesn't it doesn't help nothing I can do about it other than obsess about it and think and want to be there to do something, even though it might not be anything you could do.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I I would be in the same boat.
SPEAKER_05:However, however, now you uh so this is like the moon one, you're on the moon. A month later you come back and your kid died a month ago and no one told you.
SPEAKER_06:Oof.
SPEAKER_05:Like how do you know what I mean? Like there's that side of it too, where that's absolutely horrific.
SPEAKER_03:But you can't come back though.
SPEAKER_05:No, you no no, they come back. No, they're going back and forth.
SPEAKER_03:He could come back from the moon.
SPEAKER_05:Yes, he can. They're going back and forth from the moon in this show. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, it's an interesting show. Anyway, um, so it's like a month later, he comes home and he did find out before he got home, but I'm just saying, if no one ever told him he never found out, he lands and like, hey, awesome, good job. Um a month ago, like, are you more pissed because you didn't it's been a month you didn't know? I think I think I think in the moment you're absolutely insanely upset uh at everybody, your wife. I I think your relationship with your wife's probably over because you hate her for not telling you. However, was it still the right decision? We had this we had we had this discussion last was is it just because the outcome like the decision um have to you have to judge the decision based on the quality of the decision, not the outcome, right? Yeah, I don't think it's a good decision.
SPEAKER_03:No, he don't if he can come back whenever he wants to. No, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_05:Sorry, no, he can't come back whenever he wants. Like there's planned flights. I don't want to know. Yeah, there's planned flights to and from the the moon. So it's not like he can just jump on his shuttle and come home. Like someone's coming to get him in like a month, kind of a thing.
SPEAKER_02:I want to know. Okay. I want I want the phone call on the moon saying some shit happened. There's nothing I can do about it but grieve for a month.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, and you are on the moon by yourself in a weird environment.
SPEAKER_03:Can he FaceTime and stuff? Like, can he video chat?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, he was video chatting his wife, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Uh that's I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Anyway, just thoughts. Well, because like when you get a video chat, your wife be like, hey Han, how's things? Good. That's what that's what that was happening initially.
SPEAKER_03:Was she lying to him? Maybe I should watch the show instead of it.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it's kind of it's pretty I'll to be honest, I like it. It's kind of dry. The show's like I'm on season two. Um I like it because I like sci-fi stuff, and it's kind of just an interesting it's interesting, but it's actually quite quite slow.
SPEAKER_03:We're doing a bit of Black Rabbit, like 200. Very good. Very good.
SPEAKER_05:I haven't even looked at it yet.
SPEAKER_03:We're only a couple in. Still working our way through Hunting Wives, but you know.
SPEAKER_05:Can you just like finish one? How about that?
SPEAKER_03:Because if we have we only watch like one show together a week. That's it. And we're like four in because we watch only one a week and we don't watch that show when they're for like two weeks. But the kids are around. That show is not a kids are in the house. The kids are at school. Well, yeah, that's a good point.
SPEAKER_02:What did you do all day?
SPEAKER_03:I told you I put the VR headset on and I flew a plane, alright? Like what like like a flight simulator? Yeah. Yeah, I did a lot I did a lot of that. Okay. Yeah. Well, the kids will be home again in a couple weeks anyway.
SPEAKER_05:Uh yeah, the strike. The teacher strike is likely to happen starting Monday, October 6th.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, here's my question. I'm ignorant about this, so don't murder me if you're a teacher listening to this. I honestly don't know what they want because, from my uneducated uh on this subject view, it sounds like what the Alberta government is is proposing covers what they want. Like they want an they want a salary increase. Got that. They want more teachers, okay. 3,000 teachers over three years. Like they can't they can't materialize two teachers tomorrow. So I in my mind, again, check, got that. Um they want more teachers' a assistance. There's uh something in there about teachers' assistance. And I just it it just sat like from the outside looking in, again, not knowing a ton about the s the subject, it seems like the Alberta government is offering what they want. And for some reason, um it's just like, no, no, this isn't enough. And I'm like, well, I don't get it.
SPEAKER_02:The thing I don't get is the union, the representatives from the union presented the deal. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Which is from what I've heard about some people who work with the ATA, that their their union is incredibly weak. And their top structure is is a very weak leadership, and everybody is not the biggest fan of how they have handled this situation. Okay, but so I think there's a little bit of emotional anger, I guess some anger from the teachers about how their association would have handled some of this.
SPEAKER_05:I understand like the main some of the main complaints, obviously, like like large class sizes, not enough assistance, not enough teachers' assistance, all these kinds of things. Um but again, some of those seem so very specific to areas of the province. And I think obviously some are worse than others. So like Calgary, you have maybe these insanely large public school classrooms. And then there was something again, there's some complaint about like the private, like the private schools being funded more, or they the ideas that they might they think they're being funded more than the public schools. But in my mind, isn't the private school funding from the people who's paying for the private schools? I think so.
SPEAKER_03:Uh like is there must be some government supplementation.
SPEAKER_05:Maybe. But I I don't and again, I don't know. Anyway, I I I'm too stupid and I don't know it enough to like have to really know why they are so upset about what's being currently offered. Um it just on the surface of it for me, I I feel like it's it's what they want, or at least it's what they say they want. It's just maybe not what I think the issue might be like it's not maybe what like the teacher in this specific school with these specific problems wants, because maybe it doesn't cover those things, but you can't be like that specific to a one problem in one school with with a provincial-wide thing.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe maybe it's just the because my oh she's gonna be mad if she ever finds out I have a podcast and listens. Uh my sister's my sister's a teacher, and I've a talk to her about this quite a bit, but I don't think that the four percent that they originally I think they wanted a little bit more.
SPEAKER_05:So is it for year for a certain amount of years?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, for three years, so putting up to 12%.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, 12% increases seems like a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:It's not bad from what I understand. No, it's weird because then uh Danielle Smith put the ad out about or said in the speech that they're comparing like if you look at BC and Saskatchewan and and all that stuff, and they're and they're on par and all that stuff. They're they're really not she was comparing different pay grades within those pay scales from other provinces.
SPEAKER_05:Well, I thought that she was comparing the top that basically the top amount that you could get paid as a teacher from each province.
SPEAKER_03:I I think is what she said, and then there's so much this is the problem, is that there's so much mixed messaging. 100%.
SPEAKER_05:That's what that's the problem with politics in general. And again, I being like I think most most of us who are don't fully understand the um complaints of the teachers versus what's being offered are kind of looking at like I don't under I don't get what the problem is here.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know why they're like honestly, they're probably just gonna go to binding arbitration and then what every every every day there's no schools going in the province. The province saves like 25 or 28 million or something like that per day. Jeez. So all you need to do is have the teachers locked out for a couple days, and then that they'll fund the raise that they're gonna give them. That's probably what's gonna happen, and they're probably gonna get that raise through binding arbitration, is my guess at the end of this whole thing.
SPEAKER_02:How do you go to arbitration when you're striking?
SPEAKER_03:I think that there is a way they're different than like an essential service, and I think the rules play a little differently for oh, I'm gonna get this is probably completely incorrect, and now some people are gonna yell at me.
SPEAKER_02:Who's who's gonna yell who is listening to this podcast? It's like Jason, you don't know what your fuck you're talking about.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I really I really don't. I honestly really don't know what I'm talking about, but I think that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_05:And if that's you, please email us at superior gmail.com.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe they lock them out before they strike, and then that they can force binding arbitration on them then if they're not striking. I'm I'm not too sure the way there's a way around it, and it was explained to me, and I didn't comprehend it completely.
SPEAKER_05:Interesting. I just in the in the end, uh I'm on the side of in terms of like the teachers thinking that they need to have a good working environment, they need to have the ability to teach teach kids properly, which means smaller class sizes, which means that people with high needs in a classroom have an assistant. Or maybe aren't they aren't in the classroom, maybe they just be maybe teachers disagree with that, but in general, like and the other here's the other thing is like I don't know, this is maybe this is controversial, but if we stop pushing through kids who aren't smart enough to be in the grade that they're currently in, maybe it's easier to teach people who are about the same level uh in the learning process, right? So as a teacher, if I'm teaching a classroom of people who are, you know, yes, you're gonna have you're gonna have a bell curve of like people on the low end, people on the high end, but if that bell curve isn't like insane, where it's like the people on the low end can't read and the people on the high end are so bored because there's not they're never challenged with anything they get, like how do you teach that spectrum, right? So if you rem like if you remove some of those like outsiders, and I don't know what you do with the high, high achievers, but I don't know. It just like I just feel like there's other ways to potentially look at this as well, other than uh we just need to have smaller classrooms. Like I think that's obviously true, but I don't know how many people they're hiring too.
SPEAKER_03:Like that's the the other issue is that if they say they're gonna put 3,000 teachers in classes or whatever.
SPEAKER_02:Where are they gonna 3,000 teachers from?
SPEAKER_03:There's that. I think it's like an average of 1,400 teachers in Alberta retire every year, so they have to fill that and then add that many. Sure. But if they don't, there's really no way for the teachers association to come back and say, Well, you didn't do this government and now be but that's the problem.
SPEAKER_05:You know what I mean? Sure, but but I guess that's the thing is how do you you can't hold how do you you can't hold them to that? Because at the end, if you don't have 3,000 qualified teachers in the next three years who want a job, then it's not the government's fault at the end of the day, right? If you and I'm not sure if that's a problem or not. I have no idea what the amount of people graduating with uh a teacher's degree want to be teaching, whatever. I don't know the number. But again, with people retiring and new people getting becoming teachers, it's like if those numbers don't balance out, that isn't really a government issue.
SPEAKER_03:No, it it isn't, and then then they can't, and then it's not tied to any agreement, it's just something the government said they're gonna do. If they don't do it, okay.
SPEAKER_05:You know, they can't I just don't know how they can even promise that. I that's I don't know. Like, how can you even promise that amount of teachers if we don't have that amount coming through school to be a teacher? Which I'm sure we do.
SPEAKER_03:I'm like to be honest, I'm sure we do, but I I would hope there's a lot of people still wanting to get into teaching because I don't know if it seems oh I'd be terrible. Honestly, I would not want to do it.
SPEAKER_05:It's just I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you do it.
SPEAKER_01:The extracurricular stuff they do.
SPEAKER_05:Well, and this is the other this is the other problem with it with teaching in general as a profession, is they've forever, for as long as teachers have been teachers, they've always on their own time done work. Like after school, on weekends, they're expected to do all this extracurricular stuff. Like, says who? Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I get it. Like, I appreciate that they do it because then my kids can go to volleyball tournaments on the weekend and the teachers are there for as coaches. Like, that's amazing. I I'm glad. However, I think they should be paid for that.
SPEAKER_03:So that's where I got in a little it got a little heated because I'm like, why honestly? An ideal school, like an ideal teacher would be like, here, here is a hundred, whatever, 150. Let's say that let's say they get a big raise. Let's say it's 130k a year. 130k a year, go be a teacher. We're not gonna track hours, we're not gonna do anything like that. This is your salary per year, here is your objectives, and you can you can exceed those objectives if you want, and then make it a privatized structure. So, oh, you exceeded objectives now. Here's a raise, here's a bonus, here's this, here's that. Right. Privatization honestly is something that might help that situation a little bit. I feel but but it's all incentivized with money.
SPEAKER_05:That's what I think. And and I think, and here's the thing is I think a lot of teachers, because they're good people, aren't necessarily incentivized by money. Obviously, they wouldn't be teachers because they're not it's not that they're not like, hey, if you go do this this fall, if you teach volleyball or you coach volleyball this year, we'll give you an extra 2,000 bucks. Like they would be doing it anyway, and maybe that helps them, and maybe that makes it feel more reasonable or fair to them as far as like compensation for time. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Um But it but it's like us though. If we at the nursing home, if we put in extra time to do something, we're usually like we're compensated by that because if we don't, that's against our collective agreement. The same with them, so it's weird for them. I think I don't know if if if not privatizing is the way to go. Like I feel like they should just it it was never gonna happen with the completely privatized school where it's you know everyone's a private school, but it's it's it's an idea.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I don't know. I don't I don't know what the fix is.
SPEAKER_03:It just seems um yeah, I just my kids are very much against Daniel Smith now because they're getting some messaging from the teachers at school. And that's the frustrating that's the frustrating part, right? Is I can't control this one.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:And that's a frustrating part because in the end it's um I don't I don't know. It's complicated. And so just saying, well, it's Daniel Smith's fault, like I don't think that's the truth. I think uh from again, I'm maybe it seems ignorant for anyone who knows more about this, but from the outside of looking in, it seems like they're trying to fix some problems there. I don't know. And I know the thing is they they think that we need to have more funding to schools in general, public schools in general in the province, which sure maybe that's the truth, but I don't know. Yeah, but where's the money come from? No, it's easier to say sending it to the east for equalization papers.
SPEAKER_02:Sure. But it's easy to say, oh, we need more money for this, we need more money for that. Every group, every union wants more money for the thing they do. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:It's tough. It's gotta reach a point because every little thing is getting more expensive. Like every tiny object is getting more expensive. So any companies that deal with a lot of objects gets more expensive. So then all the frontline workers have to pay for all this stuff. Like the I I'm I kind of got too conspiracy, but there's no there's this is a never-ending thing that's gonna happen. And I don't know if there's a breaking point. Like if there's like what happens? What what happens when people can't afford to live?
SPEAKER_05:Like, completely, because you can only raise pri you can only raise uh wages so much, like it doesn't until it makes no sense. Like all of a sudden, teachers need to make$500,000 a year to pay for groceries.
SPEAKER_02:But that's where capitalism solves that problem. But when you have public institutions or public organizations, they're not influenced by the you know market economics that like because it's supply and demand, right? Like except where it's not making sense to me because like supply and demand would be like I'm not paying for your eight dollar fucking gallon of milk. Right. Except every gallon of milk is eight dollars because that's all you can get. Right.
SPEAKER_05:So uh do you see that uh I sent you a video today? Uh so there's I sent them a video on Instagram today. Some some people who used to live in Canada, they moved down to Florida, and they're just talking about how like they when they come back here, they just can't believe the they've been in like Florida for a couple years now, and they come up here and they can't understand how we're so used to these prices, and they go to the grocery store and they're like they're paying eight dollars for 12 eggs, whereas down in Florida that's like three. And they're like, how and even even with the exchange rate, even with exchange rate, they're way, way cheaper.
SPEAKER_03:Even like people in Denmark, like I've watched one in Norway, I think it was, where this girl just was shopping and she took a video of her shopping and showed the total and the stuff like that. It was like a quarter of the price from like she could do the conversion for US dollars and all that grapes, grapes. Oh, I don't even start on berries and grapes.
SPEAKER_02:A fucking crate of honey crisp apples right now, like and I don't know, a crate, like a box of honey crisp apples apples at Costco right now is$19.
SPEAKER_03:So I I used to do a lot of Caesar salads, and I remember like romaine or not romaine, yeah, romaine lettuce, 99 cents for like a head of it, right?
SPEAKER_01:It is like four dollars for a head of freaking lettuce right now. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05:And it's and it's shrinkflation too, because like not only is it four dollars, but it's probably not as much as we were getting four or five years ago, or maybe ten years ago now, but like it's crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we're we're locked in a vicious cycle until somebody doesn't get raises, and then that's gonna have a trickle down.
SPEAKER_05:We there's no end inside. And again, we I don't want to get uh seems like just a I'm just raging today.
SPEAKER_03:I'm in such a bad mood, too.
SPEAKER_05:You cannot, if you look at anything Carney like what is tell me one thing Carney is doing past.
SPEAKER_03:You thought he didn't have a shirt on. Yeah, I thought you just took it yes anyway.
SPEAKER_05:He's going shirtless now. He's getting so hot and heat and hot and bottom. Fired up. Like show like is has he so we have a new prime minister, guys. Uh has he done anything to help our country since he started? Do we have a budget? Does our country have a budget?
SPEAKER_03:He's learning the ropes, getting his feet wet a little bit, you know. That first year's a write-off anyway, right? And then then you can make some changes.
SPEAKER_05:So we've heard that before for angering somebody else. No, but like when you actually get into the like the look at it, it's so ups angering because again, we are helpless, helpless to do anything about it. And there is no end in sight to this increase in everything that we pay for. And like like there's that's it. There's no end in sight, there's no fixable solution on the table. We're stuck with this government for who knows how many years, and it as long as we have them as a government, it will get consistently worse. There's no so prove me wrong. Like somebody explain to me how how I'm wrong with this because there's like everything, everything's more expensive. Literally everything.
SPEAKER_03:This isn't the right room to find a counter-argument.
SPEAKER_05:No, I know that. I'm but I'm I'm just I'm throwing it out there to the general like I if you disagree with me, and I I'm I'm what am I not seeing that you think that what has currently are the government that currently is it in place is doing anything for our country in in terms of uh making life more affordable, uh growing our Our wealth as a nation, so that you know what I mean? Like anything, anything.
SPEAKER_03:I'm trying to think of some rebates or something, maybe.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, they got rid of the carbon tax. No, they didn't. Well, sure, they did, but then they're taking there's like they're putting other places. Like, I don't I don't know. It's so it's I guess it's extreme. I I honestly haven't been thinking about it much lately.
SPEAKER_03:I haven't been on Instagram a ton or anything, and but like have you have you catch it to a point though, because I have as well, where you're actively looking at employment in other countries. I have looked. I have looked recently. Have you? No.
SPEAKER_02:Like you're actively looking for a job in another country.
SPEAKER_03:I have looked at other countries' employments and their stand like what you would need as a Canadian citizen to work there, and like the housing markets. And like taxes. Yeah, I yeah.
SPEAKER_05:There's this guy I follow on uh YouTube who uh is an investor, but anyway, he he moved down to he's a Canadian, moved down to Panama, and he it's crazy. So one of the things because of the RS because the tax rate is so crazy, and with RSPs, uh you're taxed at you you could potentially be taxed with 50% depending upon what what tax bracket you're in, anyway. But as a non as a non-Canadian resident, so ex-Canadian who's no longer Canadian after a certain amount of time, I think it's like a year or two, you can pull your RSPs at 25% tax rate. And so he he had a bunch of RSPs and and he waited till he became that non-permanent resident. Um, and then he pulled all his RSPs and only paid 25% across the board for his or yeah, pulled his RSPs, yeah, paid 25% tax rate across the board. Basically saved, I don't know, hundreds of thousands of dollars based on how much he had in there because of not paying having to pay the extra tax.
SPEAKER_03:And the only reason I'm looking like it's nothing to I have everything I want here. It's amazing, but it's honestly just because of the prices and the government and stuff like that, I've actually actively been looking at this.
SPEAKER_05:Do you follow or you ever listen to Alex Hermozzi? Her mother uh my wife's been reading a book of his and watching a lot of stuff. But a clip of his that I saw that was really, really interesting, um, it kind of makes you think a bit as uh his his I his opinion is that if you don't make more than like$250 to$300,000 a year, saving money is a waste of time. So basically his thought is this is like his thought is that if you're not making, or at least you're not to the point where that's like and I'm thinking it's like talking about as a couple, like as a as a family, if you're not making X amount of dollars, all you're doing with saving is not living the life that you want. You're essentially forgoing all the current things that you wish you were doing, traveling, uh whatever, all the things for this uh ethereal idea of one day we'll have enough, one day we'll be a millionaire, and then we can do these things. But it's like that die with zero we talked about. You're missing all of those moments. Though those moments are that time is gone, you can never get it back. And so I think his his idea is you're wasting your time because okay, cool. So now you took the time from your like 20 20 years old when you started working till 60 when you were tired. Cool, good job. You saved you have two million dollars in your RSPs. That's sweet. What did you do? Nothing, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But you can do it now when you have a bad back and broken leg or knee or something like that. You know what I mean? Like you're gonna enjoy that money when you're not physically able to really enjoy that money. That's what I'm saying. You have a lot of health issues, I guess. Well, what's the plan then for like the plan is to like basically who make like 150 total household?
SPEAKER_05:I don't know, but my guess is the plan is to like live. The plan is to live. And like, yes, it's not saying you shouldn't have like a retirement uh vehicle or idea of what you're gonna do in retirement. So for sure there's has to be some aspect of figuring that out, but like to the bare min in some sense, to the bare minimum, to the minimum of like how much would I need to live on per year from the time I retire to the time I die ideally, like 90, whatever the number is. Um, how much per year could I live on? What would sustain me? Uh and I mean it's impossible again, and especially the world we live in with inflation, it's impossible to know that number potentially, but like anyway, I just found it interesting because I never heard of like I mean I've heard that like die with zero ID and like live now and don't just save and not not enjoy your life, but his I've never heard it's so like blunt blunt, like you're wasting it's a waste of time. There's no point. And like, ah, it's interesting. It's not wrong. Yeah, I I would I would agree. I think there's some I think there's I think I think you have to plan for the future in some ways. I mean terms of like you you don't want to retire from your job, or you don't want to go to retire and realize I can't retire and I have to work till the day that I die, because otherwise I'll be living on the street. Like that's not good, so don't do that. But at the same time, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I just don't know how people afford what like to get back to where like I was shopping for car seats today. I had to buy a new car seat, found one on sale for$300. There was car seats there for like$700. And it's like, okay, yeah, I can afford$300 for a new car seat, but like what if you're just fucking barely being able to buy groceries? I know. I don't know. It it doesn't make sense. And then to pair that, like I had to like schedule some maintenance for the house and I gotta fix my frickin' garage door. And I'm like, I spent thousands of dollars this month. Yeah, isn't that weird? It's so weird. It's easy to spend that much. Super easy. Yeah, just like I've done I've been to Costco twice in the last three days and probably spent$300 there.
SPEAKER_03:And and I would say like your one second, let's back that up. You spent$300 at Costco?
SPEAKER_02:Well, but like not leaving with much.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, like I've been to Costco twice to get like dinner.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay. Sorry, I thought you meant like$300, like a big Costco. No, no, no, yeah, I don't I can't leave it with$700 gone.
SPEAKER_02:But it's just it's astounding to me that like you can you can drip out thousands of dollars a month in nonsense.
SPEAKER_03:I don't maybe, maybe I'm maybe I'm well uh granted I a single income household, but still like I I dropped my kid off at a birthday party last weekend, and he walked, he's like, Oh, we gotta bring our scooters because we're gonna go to like the Y and McDonald's or whatever. So I'm like, well, brings a scooter. Every kid there had like an electric scooter and all this stuff. I'm like, what what is going on? He's like, yeah, they have all electric bikes too. And like, what? So you look at the school bike racks, they're all like electric bikes on the bike racks for grade five and six. I don't, I don't, I don't know. Maybe I'm bad with money, but like I don't know how people are buying this stuff too.
SPEAKER_05:It's interesting. I I don't know what this because the thing is, like, I think we're obviously with our friends, we're fairly open about our finances, and I think everyone kind of has a somewhat idea, even though not perfect, but that but we all know to some degree that like hey, like you can afford this or you could could maybe can't afford that. But like some of these people who like you said, like that there's gotta be people who can't afford those, but they're but they're buying them because they need them, air quotes, right? Or it's just that what you do, you get your kid these things. I just think it's more people than we think doing that.
SPEAKER_02:Who can't afford it. Yes. Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_03:I I think the most you must you must be right. Just because how expensive or everything, there must that must be. I'd say most.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and your threshold of can't afford it is are you creating debt buying these things? Like, that's the worst case scenario.
SPEAKER_05:Completely. I I think it's also comfortability with the debt. So, for example, um, like we're probably gonna go trade our car and get a different car here next week or week after because we need a bigger vehicle. So, anyway, we're we're thinking about trading that in. What for your because you have third kids? Because we have because we know the child, yes. Uh, and just and and it makes sense for right now with the age my kids are for transporting kids from like sports and stuff like that. We just don't have the room, so we're like, let's just get the next one up there. Like, what do we do? No, no, not that big. We're just gonna get the next version of the Subaru outfit. It's got the back row third row seat.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, what's a UConn XL run for now? Bro, like 120.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, insane. So that's the thing, is like knowing knowing that we're gonna go do this, is like, could I go get that? Yeah, I could. I mean, I but then I'd have a payment and I don't want a pay like I don't want that. Could I be comfortable with that? Sure. I I guess I guess I guess it's weird, right? It's like it's what can you get comfortable with living with in terms of like the the flow of money out in terms of payments every month versus incoming.
SPEAKER_02:Oh totally, and we all play that game.
SPEAKER_05:We do agree. We do, but like but that being said, it's like I he I guess my point is like you I could go get that Yukon XL and have a thousand dollar a month payment, and I can make that payment, but I don't want to because that's insane. Because that thousand dollars a month that I could be on that payment, I could be putting towards investments or saving or whatever, whatever, or going on a trip or whatever the thing is, right? Um but the people I think most people don't think that way though. They just go do it, they get the thing and they say, Yeah, it's a thousand bucks a month. It is what it is. For sure they do. Yeah, they're like, Oh yeah, it's a thousand bucks a month, that's how that's how much it costs. And and I just I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:That's why I there was a really good there's one of the one of our people at the nursing home, uh double income household with kids. She was talking to me a couple months ago, and and she brought up a really good point. She's like, Yeah, we right now are spending more money than we're making because they're doing like some Disney stuff in Mexico. But she's like, But we have a plan. Like they'll have their house paid off in about five years, and they have like five more years of employment just to just to pound away at this debt they're creating right now. So I I was like, you know what? I think that kind of doing it right because you have a plan at least. Here's the thing I would disagree. I just not doing it right, yes, like you know, I yeah, I would say doing it right is I would say no.
SPEAKER_05:I think it's creating debt in general bad. However, does it work out for them? I hope so, and that's and that sounds awesome. And they live, they did what they wanted to do. So I guess that's the thing is like what is your comfortable what's your comfortability level of that debt of building, making debt with the idea that one day we're gonna be able to pay this off.
SPEAKER_02:I think that's a dangerous It very much is a slippery slope because like it's one thing to say I'm gonna go into debt because I need a bigger vehicle, or on a single issue, hey, I'm gonna go into debt because I'm buying like an asset, a rental property. But if your monthly burn every month is like I'm just burning money for negative couple thousand every month, dude, that's a slippery slope.
SPEAKER_03:It is, but I well, I don't think they're doing that. But I mean like they're if you if you go into a little bit, because we've done it before with our we're gonna do it this Christmas, we'll have to fund a like a trip. We would give the kids a we're doing a they don't they don't listen. We're doing a Vegas trip for the kids for Christmas. Um so I'm trying to budget that correctly, and I'm like, oh crap, that's gonna be a couple months paying that off and stuff. So I'm gonna go into debt for that. I'm not happy about that. And I I but like it's makes me really uncomfortable. I don't know.
SPEAKER_05:Sure, and but that's the thing, everyone's comfortability is different with that. And I I would never say that that's wrong for them to do. It's like they're gonna go decide they're gonna go to Disney. They decided that, hey, you know what? Whatever, we don't have this money right now, we're gonna we're gonna take it out of the line of credit or whatever and go do it. Like, you know what? I am not at all saying that's a wrong thing to do. I think again, I think now looking, especially looking at my daughter who's 15, like knowing that I have three more years to do things like that, is like I would do that. I would take, I'd go out and spend money I don't have potentially to go do trips because I don't know if they're gonna be available to me in three years, four years, right? Um, so I would never say that's wrong. Ideally, you're not in that position, but I guess most people but I think the thing is most people are in that position. I think the world that we live in, most people are in the position that if they want to do those things, they have two options. They don't do them and they try to save uh for one day, which might never happen, or they decide to spend the money now and deal with it later.
SPEAKER_03:The one the one thing I like I really appreciate the fact that us three and anyone who works like a job like ours, even teachers for that matter, like have our money is essentially it's not a renewable resource. That sounds a bad way of putting it, but I know every two weeks I'm getting paid. I know I was hurt, I got hurt, and every two weeks. Yeah, we're lucky, we're very lucky, and it's super lucky. I can't imagine because even with the small little stuff we do, I can't imagine like having a private business as a sole source of income for my family, and they are depending on me. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like there's a completely and my dad is a farmer his his whole life, and we grew up on a farm. Yeah, and I can't imagine the stress he was under every year with the weather. Like, what happens if the weather is it's not renewable, like it's not every it's not a check every two weeks.
SPEAKER_05:It's not guaranteed.
SPEAKER_03:I I cannot wrap my head around that.
SPEAKER_02:I I agree with everything you've just said. The problem is is that it forces you when you get comfortable, you just get comfortable and you don't get creative. It doesn't force you to find new ways to like. That's why like every successful entrepreneur, well not everyone, but like a lot of the stuff I read or listen to, it's like guys saying, like, hey, uh the thing that like was my turning point was when I just said, Fuck it, I'm quitting my job and I'm going right very much. So it did force burning the boats. Uh and because yeah, like 100% I like knowing in two weeks I'm gonna get paid.
SPEAKER_03:It's it's very nice. I think I take it for granted a little bit, I think.
SPEAKER_05:But yeah, it definitely does that. It's the handcuffs. Um, sorry, I just want to finish my thing. So I just want to be clear, like the with like the vacation thing, like that is that is one that is different, very different to me than saying, we want a new vehicle, so I'm gonna go get a thousand dollar payment. Uh yeah. You know what I mean? Totally.
SPEAKER_02:Or I I want a new TV for my host.
SPEAKER_05:Completely a TV. Do you need it? Exactly. So like I think that that's where the difference is. I think most people don't they do the I want a new thing and I can't really afford it. Let's just finance it kind of idea. I think that's forgive me if I offend you. I think that's stupid compared to the I'm gonna spend more money than I have to go do a thing with my family that's gonna be once the what this one year kind of thing. I think that makes a lot more sense in the end than the TV or the car or the boat or the whatever.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and and society is just it has set itself up to cater to that type of thing, that instant gratification, right? Like, I'm about to buy a bike. Probably when we're done this podcast, I'm gonna send a message. Uh, but the guy like where I'm buying the bike from, he's like, hey, uh, here's the quote, here's the price of the bike. Uh, just you know, we do uh we do five months monthly payments,$48 bi-weekly. I was like, no, bro, like I haven't for$48 bi-weekly. For a fucking bike.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_05:If okay. Whoever created this, yeah, brilliant. The business model of like, hey, dude, it's not that bad of anything.
SPEAKER_02:Well, because it's just psychology, right? Because everyone's like, fuck,$48 a week. Four easy payments.
SPEAKER_03:Campers, you do you do a 30-year loan on a camper if you buy it new. It's nuts.
SPEAKER_02:And but you because they tell you, well, it's$110 every month.
SPEAKER_03:That's all you think about, right?
SPEAKER_02:And you're not realizing, oh, okay, times X number of years times insurance or excuse me, in um interest, plus uh like the inflation, the devaluing of your dollar over that time and the depreciation of the thing that you just bought. Or the opportunity cost, right, right?
SPEAKER_05:Of like Well, that's something nobody thinks about though.
SPEAKER_02:No, yeah, generally no. Um, if you're listening, opportunity cost is the cost that you would lose. How would I describe it? It's it's the cost that if I spent$500 today, the opportunity that that$500 would have down the road if it was used somewhere else.
SPEAKER_05:And it's usually thought of in terms of like if I had invested that$500 in some really low risk, like even 4% per year or 4% uh interest gain per year, what would that be over this course course of 20 years? And then like I know$500 is small, but like you start thinking about that and you compound it, you start realizing that the amount of money after like a period of time is insane. Um and that it's hard, it's hard. Like this is where like this is where the idea of saving, saving money, like this is like we've talked about this before, but saving money to buy something is good in theory because we're not getting in debt, right? You're not going in debt. But then that so say you saved up$50,000 and you bought a vehicle and you spent$50,000. I mean, that's cool, like you don't have any debt. However, if you had invested that fifty thousand dollars at s at five percent for the next 20 years, that's a lot of money.
SPEAKER_03:So then I can see it if maybe those people that's the problem, is that I don't maybe agree with their principles. Because like I like I like sit, like I do a new vehicle, sitting in and driving a new vehicle, it's a great feeling. And if if maybe that's their enjoyment, is that feeling that's that's cool. Yeah, but if you but if that enjoyment, if if it's not if they buy that new vehicle just because they want to have a new vehicle for the appearance of others, I have issues with that principle, but if they if they enjoy a new vehicle so much that they're willing to go into debt for that, I can't get mad at that because they can't get mad at it.
SPEAKER_02:Disagree so strongly with what you just said.
SPEAKER_03:But I'm trying to, but it it I think it relates to the reason like I in December I'm gonna go into a small amount of debt for this trip.
SPEAKER_02:Sure, because you're gonna make memories with your family, because it's important. Because that is what I love.
SPEAKER_03:Sure. But what if they love the new vehicle feeling so much that that is worth it?
SPEAKER_02:I don't think you can make that argument. If you wipe family out of this, because we all agree that like time is precious, your fucking life calendar's ticking down.
SPEAKER_03:No, it's not. Your life calendar is in the same spot. Anyway, sorry.
SPEAKER_02:Um time with your family is precious, right? Like those moments are going for every single other thing. If you can't control your gratification, right? Or um delay that gratification, control your impulse, Daniel Goldman. Um you're fucking yourself. If you like sitting in a new vehicle so much that you have to have it and go into debt, you don't have the appropriate self-control. Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_05:You are right. However, at the end of the day, make your own decision. Like I if that's how you like No, don't make your own decision. No, you you uh you have to. You have to allow for people, it's just like you have to allow for people to make their own and make their own decisions. And and that maybe that means they have a uh whatever. It's not your it's not our lives. So like to be clear, we're just saying if you're listening to this and you're you've you're batting these ideas around, uh there is a there's a better way to do things than going and going into debt for material goods that really are gonna be nothing in the end. And it comes all comes again to this ethereal idea of a happy happiness. Like, what is happiness? Like, so I got a new phone today. I love new, I love new shit. I love it. I love new tech. I don't know, I'm just a nerd. And I got a new phone today. And immediately getting a new phone like cool, all right. And in a week it's not gonna matter. All right, sweet.
SPEAKER_03:Uh maybe No, I see the way you enjoy technology and the happiness it brings to you.
SPEAKER_05:Sure, but I think it's but like everything else, it is fine, but again, it's it's a fleeting, it's a fleeting thing.
SPEAKER_03:How what's the bi-weekly payments on your phone? Zero. Well, that's actually not true.$12 bi-weekly payments.
SPEAKER_05:Every phone company, or any phone, you you're paying it for per month. That's it is what it is.
SPEAKER_02:But um I just don't think you can say like it's like, yeah, at the end of the day, freedom of choice, if that's what makes you happy, go do it. But you can just can't write off bad decisions without like trying to look introspectively at them and be like, okay, that was not a great decision, or I don't need these things, or try and improve your decision-making process as it relates to these things.
SPEAKER_05:But but you know what I find very interesting is again, everyone has a different relationship with money and a different idea about it in terms of um they how that much they value it. And I I get when it makes the roll go around and we all you need it, but uh so for example, like Tony, our friend, he has a very different outlook on the idea of money and for example, passing money on to like his kids. Like, I think it's his culture, maybe it's kinda to be you're listening, you know what I'm talking about. We've talked about this. So I I just I he is a very like so for me, having life insurance so that I know that if I died, um my family's covered for a long period of time. Uh like everything's paid for, everything's good. Go do what you want to do. It makes me feel good. That isn't even really a thought to him. For him, um, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, you can come in here and talk about this if you'd like, but for it's more like his idea is that would be a d he it would be a disservice to give this big lump sum of money to potentially his family or if like his kids, if he dies, because there then they won't go out. and do something for themselves. It'll be handed to them. It won't be earned. If it's not earned, maybe it doesn't feel like it's a it's you did anything. You know, you don't have that like gr that um satisfaction of I've earned this in my life. You know you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_02:Which I think probably is fair if if you're still around. Because I I think with your kids, if I'm to look in the future, uh it's gonna be like, no, I'm not gonna buy you a new car, but hey, you come to me with a great business idea and you need an investment. I got you. Right? Something like that. Yeah I but if I get like deleted from the face of the planet I don't need my family to worry about paying the mortgage. I I completely agree. And that's why I have life insurance. Yeah that's why you have life insurance.
SPEAKER_03:Completely did you see that thing with the out in Ontario the woman lost two parents in the last six hundred and sixty thousand dollars capital gains capital gains because there's real estate coming after their estate.
SPEAKER_05:So they bought the house in like however many years ago and now it's worth way way more and so they're saying yeah you lost this money. Like how insane is that it's absolutely that makes again get angry about something yeah that that's that's driving me but I just find it I just find it very interesting like this the idea like again we don't we talk like this and we I think we all are very much on the same page in terms of like our thoughts on this especially especially CJ and I but like in the end a lot of people we have to you have to remember and it's hard but you have to remember some people just view view life very very differently and they have no idea if they save up some money and they just they'll just go into debt forever and die in debt. In my mind it's short sighted at the end of the day maybe they're not wrong because you're gonna be dead and it won't matter right um I don't yeah I think I think uh sometimes I think sometimes I think that it's like I have all this like available availability to go buy things if I wanted to but I I'm not because I I have uh plans and I want to you know save for I don't know what uh I want to you know what I mean it's like but but again I I think it's also because I the things that I would go buy I re I know that they're not gonna provide what I'm looking for. Like they're I mean what am I looking for? That's another question. But like they're not they're not gonna provide that like oh now life is set because I bought that car or now life is good because I bought that thing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah and that's that's part of the problem with motivation and seeking out things. Yeah. And we all know this right you get the thing and the motivation's gone and then the luster of the thing wears off. But to touch on what you said like I've been thinking about this a lot lately is like trying to just play life like a game. That's what it is. It's a game right I'm not playing it very well right now. Actually horribly no I'm fucking terrible this month. But I think the I think some of the people that you speak of that are just and like generally some of the people that are just like yeah fuck it whatever happens happens they're not playing the game you know what I mean like they're just kind of along for the ride and it's like yes you can be along for the ride and you'll probably your your train will get to the end. Or you can play the game right yeah or you can play the game a little bit and like I like especially financially like I'm definitely not playing the game much better than anybody else but it's still a game.
SPEAKER_05:Okay I would disagree yeah well we're doing okay yes no I would I you're yeah you're doing fine. No I I I know and and I guess that's the thing is what it as everybody has to decide for themselves and for their families what is what are you comfortable with. And if it is just you know making that paycheck and along for the ride and enjoy the things you can like I don't know the rare kind of vacation that kind of stuff then cool or if you're comfortable with like living with an insane amount of debt and it doesn't stress you out like okay like I can't do that.
SPEAKER_03:My wife and I are different. She is okay with that. I'm not it's just it's such a it's created a lot of conversation but we never get like really mad at each other about it but she's I'm like well I don't want this she's like well we just we just get a loan for that I'm like no like like no no yeah like I'm I'm very much the opposite I don't like having that over my head.
SPEAKER_05:You know what I've I've been thinking of a lot like lately too is like in the end like all of this like money like the stuff that you is investments it it is literally nothing it's fucking like these they're numbers in an account somewhere that if the someone like delete the internet do we is that still there is any of it still there like I don't like I don't know because is there any physicality to any of our any of our assets anymore other than obviously physical assets but like our our investment accounts or our whatever if something happened the aliens come and they throw an EMP out to the world and just just they'll delete electricity.
SPEAKER_03:There's no paper folders there's not backed up I don't think anything's backed up in paper folders.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah but it's what you can trade right like right now you can trade money sure for things. Yeah if it gets deleted because the aliens show up my bucket of potatoes in the back is going to be suddenly worth a lot more money right well yeah I don't I don't have enough physical assets for trading it's just interesting like throughout history humans have traded different shit very much so right and it's all just been a symbol of value it's never actually been like like this hundred dollar bill sitting on a table in front of me L you of fifty bucks um is is literally worthless. Right. But I give it to you and know that I'm gonna get a hundred dollars my perceived hundred dollars of value from it for whatever you return to me right like we're all just again we're all just live in this make-believe land where we agree to exchange these things and it works because we all agree on it.
SPEAKER_03:That's the only reason why it works. It's like setting the value of a Pokemon card.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah totally it's the same thing or a watch or something or a painting or a stupid car. And that's why like right now Bitcoin is valuable because everybody agreed one Bitcoin right now is worth$1140.
SPEAKER_01:Is that what it's at right now?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah oh wow okay it's down a bit um yeah it's all time like$122,$125? Yeah$120 or something something like that. I don't know. But like is if you're not playing the game I think that's like step one is like it it at least come to the the understanding that you're playing a game and do you want to be a participant in that game.
SPEAKER_05:I think that the resistance to playing the game is the game's rigged.
SPEAKER_02:Sure but then but the game's gonna go on without you.
SPEAKER_05:I agree I agree but it I think some people like the idea of I'm not gonna be a participant in this game I'm gonna and actually the only way to not be a participant is to make enough money that you can just not be a participant.
SPEAKER_02:And that's that's the funny thing about it right completely.
SPEAKER_05:Because otherwise you are the participant you are a participant even though you don't know you're a participant.
SPEAKER_02:And I think if you I mean we all want to be independently wealthy but a lot of us hopefully not the people at this table but a lot of us are just going to have that thought and then truck on through to death yeah and I just think that means different things to different people.
SPEAKER_05:Like I just think I'm gonna truck on through I think I know you will yeah and but you'll be comfortable. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:That's the thing is that unless again unless the Canadian economy goes completely that's the other thing too like if we think about our job with our our pension that's again the same thing. We've been paying into that it one EMP press a button or it goes bankrupt.
SPEAKER_05:And the same thing with the CPP like that's that's the crazy thing about the CPP is like is that sustainable? Well what about CPP two? Exactly um because they're gonna charge charging CPP three will they increase two or will they make it three increased by four hundred dollars this year. Oh so they can they can increase it without relay money they increase whatever they want exactly money they increased CPP one and then they increased CPP two this year so it was increased by a lot but it doesn't seem as bad because it's split into two lines we went down a rabbit hole at work the other day we looked at like uh CPP payments uh over the years it's you don't want to look at that you don't want to look at what you were paying in like$2,000 dude it was like half of what we're paying right it's so crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Um well here's here's a curveball for you uh I was listening to a podcast about the impending population collapse of the entire world yep it's coming I know I agree um and it was interesting because the guy this researcher that was studying the reason for population collapse because everybody's saying oh like South Korea population collapse Japan except Canada the US Europe Germany Russia China all the same shit the only ones who aren't are the Muslims because they're having like 12 children each but it's not so this was the interesting takeaway from from the podcast it's not how many kids people are having it is a function of the age when people first start having kids. So he did this he did this bell curve he called like the vitality curve uh and he looked at every basically every society every country and then like historically from like up to I think it was up to like 2007 and things got really bad. But the the peak of the curve has been moving right on this hypothetical graph. So if like older yeah okay x is the horizontal axis right yes yes I think it is um so on the x-axis there's age right and so historically the peak would kind of be at like the 20s for women when they would start having children it's moved to the 30s. So most women now are not having kids until they're 30 and the reason it's causing population collapse is because of the decline in vitality because when a woman is 30 they have a much lower likelihood of having children. So even without issues too so they would have like maybe one or two versus they would have potentially three or four no no no it's not even that it's that um involuntary um uh I don't know what the term was but it's like involuntary childlessness is like women and men too are less fertile at that age so he's like the same number of people are trying to have kids the problem is is that they're doing it later when the vitality is not the same as when they were in their 20s did it talk about uh microplastics in our balls too no we didn't get into that but I'm sure that's a contributing factor um but he but he and he did say because he's like oh a lot of people are talking about you know declining sperm count and stuff and he's like that's not the issue like yeah it may be a factor or a correlated thing but the issue is is that most people are choosing to have uh kids in their 30s versus like you look at the 50s 60s 70s it'd be like your early 20s you're having kids right uh and he basically said like the intensity of child child birthing is going down as a result of that because like a lot of people can't have kids when they're in their 30s um and it's just gonna get worse and he says it's all driven by economic factors. Right. Right? Everybody's choosing to wait later to have kids for the to support them and well and I mean I look at myself we didn't start having kids till we're in our thirties uh and I have a wonderfully comfortable life as a result of it but like not everybody gets that lucky right um and so then a lot of people that chose to delay having kids as a result of those factors then find out in their 30s they can't have kids which is causing the population kids are interesting because a lot of people like I think that is the idea a lot of people we can't afford to have kids right now.
SPEAKER_05:You know what you never can you figure it out.
SPEAKER_02:You can't but also that's where it falls on government to say like like really incentivize children very much so like a lot of children child tax credits we're good to go.
SPEAKER_05:No this is where like you have like I've got what's for like countries like Hungary are and other countries are really incentivizing young couples to have kids. Like what like monetary? Oh yeah like so I think I've said this before but uh like in Hungary uh if uh you have every child that a woman has she gets 25% taken off her income tax rate yes so if but if she has four kids she does not pay income tax um they also have forgivable loans I don't know the pr how much it is but there's forgivable loans as a young couple you can get a loan for X amount of dollars if you have two children you don't have to pay back that loan there's things there's things like that yeah yeah and I think maybe those countries have recognized it and I know Japan and South Korea has we have no we as a in Canada we have no but the other difference is those countries aren't haven't bought into this immigration is going to save us idea so and they don't want that they want to keep they want Hungary to remain Hungarian. I mean not saying they're not having immigration but it's like it's not very it's limited and they're controlling who comes in and they would they want to have like Hungarians living in Hungary for the most part so they're they're incentivizing their own people to have children versus bringing in however millions people we brought in the last couple of years.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But to then so to get back to what we're talking about of people not being able to afford a living it's gonna get really interesting when because you said it's gonna take a couple more generations but when we're quite old I think a lot of that will come to bear with the realization that there's not nearly enough young people anymore.
SPEAKER_05:I think I think when we get to retirement age like CPP and stuff I think it'll still be there to be honest. I think it's gonna be struggling really bad and I but I think it's our kids that are going to have huge issues when it comes to uh that kind of stuff like CPP pensions.
SPEAKER_02:Well and even he was saying things you know um they're building schools they're building daycares yada yada yada but in two generations when there's not enough kids for these things well then like the the pendulum's gonna swing the other way. They're gonna turn into old age homes. But they are but old age people don't contribute to the workforce. I know and I'll and I think put like a spirit Halloween there for you know and perhaps the interesting thing that's a good point. That's fucking funny to get point uh I I think the interesting thing is it'll be like to see how AI uh levels this out a little bit as far as the workforce goes and and suddenly maybe society doesn't require as many workers.
SPEAKER_05:It definitely won't actually it won't but is that that's again now it comes down to people aren't making money because there's no jobs.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah so then then so then you so then you're literally at if you don't have some sort of universal basic income people are I think AI will advance too fast that the the the lack of jobs will be a problem before that's occurred. I think like five years from now there's gonna be so many jobs that are taken.
SPEAKER_02:Well they're already yeah people are already losing jobs there's a there's an AI actress that just Oh have you seen that?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah have you seen the have you seen the um music the one it's like she's like a almost like an anime not anime because she looks real like a pop star like a like a either Korean or Japanese kind of like a pop star that they've signed like they like and it took uh she's like a music deal yeah Rogan played it uh on his podcast but it's literally like this guy developed his AI in like I don't know how long and then with made in a song like a literal hit song sounds amazing you can't hate like you can hate on it if you want but like it's it's a it's a really good song. It's a very good song uh and it's like what do you get what do you do? Like you you're an actual artist like a somebody who's good at making music has no chance other than you just have to hope that people care that this was made by a human a real human it took them two years to make this song versus here's a song made in three seconds by AI that's almost the same.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah probably still sounds good. It it's the thing anyway in by episode like 250 of this podcast shit's gonna get real wild.
SPEAKER_03:We won't be here there'll just be three AI of us doing it.
SPEAKER_02:I think there's enough content out there that we could make AI as us and then we've got like fill those weeks where you're hurt.
SPEAKER_03:I I know I know we might have like four minutes here before we get going. Have you guys watched like the any I've been watching a lot of stuff in the States with all the ice and all the cops not really I I don't understand it is civil war esque yeah I don't understand what's going on down there. I don't get so why is Trump sending National Guard to certain cities because of just how insane it is because the asteroids coming oh right in Denver yes yes but no but yeah just it's because like like murder rates are crazy yeah all that stuff even though it's it's weird and you you go and you look at certain news sites saying they're the lowest it's been in five years in like Chicago but he's sending all the cops there. I don't know and I'm just like whatever but I just watch the videos of people like there's mass 30 cops walking in residential neighborhoods just in a big clump and people like throw stuff at them and the cops just go and beat the crap out of these people and I'm like okay yeah well don't throw stuff at cops but like there's it's just it's very Civil War esque the way the civilians are and there was one I I it was I don't know where it was but they had this the big group of cops going and then there was like a militia of civilians saying no you can't walk down this street and the cops they just stood there as like a stalemate between the two of them and the cops left. I'm like what is happening it's it seems like it's quite insane down there right now.
SPEAKER_04:I think it yeah it's probably it's isolated areas I'm assuming.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah and that's that is the problem is you get this media of this and then it's you your perception is that it's everything everything yeah yeah I I think it's happening in more places than I think it is I I feel like there's a little more civil unrest in the states than from what's shown yeah maybe maybe I mean it's a country of 300 hour million what's happening in North Carolina though they're probably chilling yeah they're they're fine they're fine that's where they want to go whitefish Montana's pretty good yeah New Zealand's got a pretty good policy for hiring Canadian citizens if you look at nursing homes over there.
SPEAKER_05:I know Bahamas you don't pay taxes what yeah how cool that be though new country with the whole family can I take my friends there's zero chance that I could convince my kids my daughter be like I'm not going back to New Zealand?
SPEAKER_02:She doesn't want to leave where we are she's why would you want to go to New Zealand?
SPEAKER_03:Uh it's they're they're pretty good about high they just made everybody give all their guns because that's the one thing that's so they're pretty draconian the nursing homes in the states over there aren't well liked because of what they did during the Canada's barely hanging on here but if you if you can go live like where the hobbits did oh my gosh the little house little round door everything you could open it up. I mean dig a hole in the ground I think it'd be very cool just to uproot the family move to somewhere else and just start something crazy new still is fifty this is my perception fifteen years ago Canada was that place. I thought so you're a hundred percent right in the last few minutes you just throw something like that out there and get me all riled up you're you're a hundred percent right we were the place to go.
SPEAKER_05:I've got uh an inn now to a beach house in Spain so that's where I'm going. Okay.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Well that like to live all right I'm going to visit yeah uh we got a couple of houses in it that I'm gonna go visit in Spain here probably in a year or two.
SPEAKER_02:I just want to go to uh Poland next year. That would be interesting. Because that was where ADCC is going to be next year.
SPEAKER_05:Uh if it wasn't like what's the price like what how much I guess how much do you think we spent in Vegas? I spent like two thousand bucks. So if you if we could do it for like just like slightly more than that would you go?
SPEAKER_03:I think I would do I bet you could too well because I feel like your your day to day over there would be cheaper than your day to day in Vegas we didn't do anything we sadly didn't do anything.
SPEAKER_02:Okay well it'd be the same we just have to it'd be the same then we just have to get there. Yeah that's cool.
SPEAKER_05:And then I'm assuming you get like a house that's pretty cheap or something. Yeah that'd be wicked dude and I'm gonna if we go though though here's the problem if we go there it feels like we can't just go to that we have to go do some other things. I know we can't go to Poland and watch for like two days and then fly home like that seems stupid like if we're gonna go we gotta go see some war museums right I don't know there's probably some good war museums in Poland too yeah we gotta reset we're gonna make this a week trip without our families well I tried to I tried to sell the idea by uh by the person that I live with and she wasn't having it she doesn't want to go to Poland she doesn't want me to go to Poland.
SPEAKER_02:Oh I thought you invited her oops my mistake a guy's trip come on uh but seriously Southern Poland where's Auschwitz so not that I I don't like I do want to go to Auschwitz but I've heard it's super emotional.
SPEAKER_03:I think I would cry a lot I just want that feel because I've heard guys they go there and it's just the feeling you just stand there and you just feel the energy yeah of just the sadness. You want that sad just dark feeling I do I do I want to walk in and just I want to soak in it and just be like this is what this is so crazy. It's probably important to experience I I would agree with maybe yeah but yes it is southern Poland so I mean how big is Poland like you could probably drive there.
SPEAKER_02:I don't I think Poland's quite small isn't it uh I don't know I don't have a clue we could do like an average superior trip to Poland. Yeah yeah yeah us and all our listeners yeah if you're listening you want to come to Poland hit us up
SPEAKER_05:Thanks for listening. Uh we have to go. Uh there's things I gotta do tonight still, unfortunately. Like go to get groceries. I'm a professional chauffeur these days with an extra child in my house. So that's all I do is drive kids from one place to get them when you get that other vehicle, is that it doesn't help. Well, I mean it helps.
SPEAKER_03:No, are you gonna like downgrade that subarood you have now to one of the kids?
SPEAKER_05:No, no, no. That's getting traded in. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, I'm not keeping that.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I mean a good dad would give it to a daughter.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, you're getting like a four thousand dollar car. I don't know what you're talking about. Anyway.
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