#81 - Spear Hands

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SPEAKER_07 0:05

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SPEAKER_00 0:30

Everyone feels the same way you do. Alright? What you do right now makes it different.

SPEAKER_07 0:50

Welcome everybody to episode 81 of the episode of the 81. Wow. Welcome everyone to episode 81 of the amateur period of the video. We're gonna have a gay old time here tonight. It's gonna be gay. Old time. Just gay. Yes, very happy. What's up, JB? I don't know. Not much. Did our Christmas decorations today? Um got all that sorted out. What'd you decorate? Oh, put up the tree, put the decorations around the house to make things Christmassy. Did the uh spindles going up to the second floor? I don't know. Same old. The huge I've noticed you have not. Actually, I what I've noticed is that you have Halloween decorations still on your front porch. Because we have pumpkins?

SPEAKER_02 1:47

Those are just a fall. No, that's Halloween now. Do you have pumpkins on your front porch? It's autumn decor.

SPEAKER_05 1:53

Thank you. Welcome to the November 1 and they go away. The week after Remembrance Day is when it's it still autumn?

SPEAKER_06 2:00

November. No, it's winter. It's plus five today. It's it is still autumn. No. Do you know when the winter is? Yeah, December 20th summer died. So it's still autumn. See, I was close. What's why are you hating on pumpkins?

SPEAKER_07 2:10

Uh, because after Halloween they should not be seen.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

No, you're confusing jack-o'-lanterns with pumpkins. Jack-o'-lanterns are for Halloween. Don't tell me. Hey.

SPEAKER_06 2:19

Pumpkins are autumn. Don't tell me what I'm confusing, okay? Your your common sense is refreshing. Thank you.

SPEAKER_07 2:27

The first time someone said that. Um okay, well, whatever. I think that they should be gone. Uh, no Christmas lights up yet, no tree up yet. Are you getting a real tree? Is that why?

SPEAKER_06 2:40

Uh likely. Um, I don't overly enjoy putting up Christmas lights, but I'm too much of a peasant to have the built-in Christmas lights like you have.

SPEAKER_07 2:48

Uh yeah, they're expensive initially, but um I enjoy them. Use me around. Never have to put them up again.

SPEAKER_06 2:55

I feel like they pay for themselves somehow. I'm sure they do. All our neighbors have them, and I I have envy every time I see them.

SPEAKER_02 3:02

My neighbors do as well. It took me, I timed myself, about 27 minutes to put mine up. It was worth it. That's that's a short time. Yeah. I was like, you know, for 27 minutes, I don't need to spend. We just do a single line. Yeah, but they're not as fancy. They're definitely not.

SPEAKER_06 3:15

Did you put them on your eaves?

SPEAKER_02 3:18

I put them on the trough.

SPEAKER_05 3:19

Where else would you put them? Trees, railings. I don't recall you have a tree in your front yard. He does.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

I then have to run a court out there.

SPEAKER_06 3:33

My Christmas decorations take about my lights take about four hours to do.

SPEAKER_07 3:37

I think everything that you do takes about four hours. Like I don't think there's something that you do that doesn't take four hours. Is it me? Damn it. I forgot something to bring it to you. I can bring it tomorrow morning.

SPEAKER_05 3:49

I wonder if you do tasks like uh Tony washes dishes or eats food very meticulously.

SPEAKER_06 3:55

It depends on the task. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

Why why do something half-assed?

unknown 4:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

When you do it because it's full assed. Because it's quicker. Go full assed. No ass of speed. Can you stop messing with him?

SPEAKER_05 4:08

Stop doing that.

SPEAKER_06 4:13

Leave it alone. Stop playing with it. I'm just making sure this mic sleeve is fully on.

SPEAKER_05 4:20

Are you gonna miss decorating outside because of that? Do you think?

SPEAKER_06 4:22

No, I will I do Christmas lights every year. Okay, good. How do you do that? A lot.

SPEAKER_05 4:28

Yeah, this is like this is the turning point that like right at the time.

SPEAKER_06 4:32

I forgot that once the snow flies, you just can't be outside. Yeah, but today was the day. It's radioactive.

SPEAKER_07 4:37

But I've also noticed like your ability to be on a ladder is diminished. For sure. So how do you get that done?

SPEAKER_06 4:43

Did you know I used to climb drilling rigs? Uh that shocks me. Dude, it's it's it's one of those things that it like you do it, and then you just kind of forget how much you hate doing it, and then as soon as you stop doing it, the lack of fear goes away. The lack of the fear comes back. Okay, that makes sense. That's the word.

SPEAKER_07 5:04

Interesting. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

The lack of fear goes away.

SPEAKER_07 5:08

So the fear comes back.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

That scrambled my eggs. I had to think about that when I was like, the lack of fear goes away. So you're fearful. Yes. Okay. So you gotta do it.

SPEAKER_04 5:22

Okay, so like you said, yeah, you just fearful. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I'm fearful.

SPEAKER_06 5:28

Yeah. I also, as I speak out loud about this, I realize that I, you know how like the climbing harness you gotta clip into. The the training that I received in wearing that was just from like the dude that I was like learning from like, okay, here's how you do it. Like 10 seconds before you went up, right? Yeah, yeah. I actually think I might have could have died.

SPEAKER_05 5:45

Well, probably a full for full day course right now. For sure. Yeah, law certificates and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_06 5:51

And it was back then, I'm sure too. Like this wasn't that long ago.

SPEAKER_07 5:54

There's lots of things that we've done in lives in our lives that we could have died doing for sure.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

On average, how many how many things do you think that you have done that you almost died and didn't know?

SPEAKER_07 6:03

Oh, I have no idea. But like I obviously know, but I'm just saying, like, I I think that I could I'd have a better chance of cut like thinking about all the things that I've done that were like you it was obvious you could have died in those circumstances had you messed up or slipped or fallen. When's the last time you did one of those things? Probably your roof up here with that bird swooping at me.

SPEAKER_06 6:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 6:26

I don't know. But you didn't you I wasn't worried. I wasn't worried about it, but like you have died if you fallen off the roof? Uh I mean it's pretty likely uh or paraplegic. Oh, he'd be full.

SPEAKER_05 6:36

No, you you land wrong, you're done. Yeah, but you land right. If you land feet and roll, you probably just hurt your spine and stuff. You wouldn't die.

SPEAKER_06 6:43

Oh no, if you parkour sacrifice your knees and ankles. Like you parkour off a three-story roof?

SPEAKER_05 6:48

But no, this this one, but you're living. If you if you land right. If you land proper, I mean you could you could fall off your bed if you land wrong, you die. If you fell directly under your head, how big of a drop would that have to be? Not that far.

SPEAKER_02 6:59

So it'd take purple. What at four feet? Yeah. If you fell directly off of like no hands, right on your head, yeah, it wouldn't take much.

SPEAKER_06 7:08

I I love how you think that he could just fall off of what, like a third story roof or however high that would be and land on his feet and roll. He could land on his feet and five. He thinks that. You think that you would land on your feet and your ankles, knees, and pelvis would become one.

SPEAKER_04 7:24

But he would still roll. No.

SPEAKER_07 7:28

Not a chance. I think so. I have fallen off roofs and have landed and rolled before, but not this tall. This one would be a problem. I honestly don't I don't think unless I'm really messed up and landed on my head, I don't think I would die falling off a roof. I would be really messed up, though.

SPEAKER_05 7:43

I feel like if you fell straight to it. If you angle fall, like you're kind of I think you can use that momentum and roll out like it with a wing suit. Like, how do you how do you fall at an angle?

SPEAKER_07 7:52

Well, you take your hoodie off real quick and you hold it out in the air. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_05 7:56

10 feet is a 10% mortality rate at 10 feet. Okay. But if you land on your feet? Because I'm sure you, if you're directly on your head first into a hard surface, concrete, fall height, 10 feet, 10% mortality. I don't know where they're getting these stats from.

SPEAKER_07 8:11

But as we speak of it. So what's the 100% mortality?

SPEAKER_05 8:14

Uh you 40. 11 feet.

SPEAKER_07 8:16

40 feet.

SPEAKER_05 8:17

40 and above.

SPEAKER_07 8:18

So but at 30 feet directly on your head, you might survive.

SPEAKER_05 8:22

Yep. For 30 feet is 90%.

SPEAKER_06 8:24

When they say directly on your head, though, what do they mean? Like kind of top of your head. Yeah, because I'm talking feet up, head down. Yeah. That's the way you like to fall. Yeah. How else do you fall? Feet up, head down. Well, you could fall like face first, like belly first. That would suck. Yeah. I think that would suck more. If somebody had come to you and you were a roofer and said, I have this event invention, it's a hoodie with wings in it. Would you have bought it? No. For like those times when you're in the middle of the yeah. I didn't even wear a harness, so I don't think I'd wear that. That'd be kind of cool, right? Like you're falling just like, that would be sweet.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

Do you wear a helmet on your e-bike? Yes. Oh, yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_06 9:00

Regardless of what letters in front of the word bike I generally wear a helmet. Really?

SPEAKER_05 9:05

Yeah. Yeah. I don't wear it to like go to the store, but I wear it every other time.

SPEAKER_02 9:09

You don't wear a bike helmet? Occasionally, if I'm going off some sweet jumps. So if you took it just to go to the quick errand? Yeah. No helmet. No. Coolies. Uh yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But chances are I'm likely gonna get hit by a car and die with the helmet on the road because I'm carefree, but when I'm in the coolies, I'm paying a little more attention.

SPEAKER_06 9:31

I'm okay with your premise there. The only reason I wear a helmet every time is because every time I just shred it. Sherry.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

Just shredding every time.

SPEAKER_06 9:40

Have you driven that to work yet? Well, you don't drive bikes, you generally ride them.

SPEAKER_05 9:44

No, you drive, but that's not a bike.

SPEAKER_06 9:46

It's a hybrid. No, I have not, nor will I this until next year. Tomorrow, tomorrow you could try it. In the snow? Yeah. Well, according to you people can't be outside once it snows. Outdoor things are snow.

SPEAKER_05 9:56

No, you can, but like today was the day to do Christmas lights outside.

SPEAKER_06 9:59

So was the 79 days before it. Like no. Today was the day. Why wouldn't you, though?

SPEAKER_02 10:05

Yeah, why would you? Do you prefer doing things when they're harder? Yes. Actually.

SPEAKER_05 10:08

Have you seen my life? Gotta get that minus 20 out there. CGO go out there and complain to us about how cold it is.

SPEAKER_06 10:17

And I'll look at my neighbors as they drive by and just be like, you bitches in your warm car.

SPEAKER_05 10:24

You would strike me as the kind of person who would get those lights and install them yourself, though the Eve's lights or whatever. No, you can't. Those ones, no.

SPEAKER_06 10:31

I think you have to be uh an electrician.

SPEAKER_05 10:32

Well, no, you just need to be an electrician for the permits.

SPEAKER_07 10:34

No, because they well, permits. Uh they didn't they get those like channels that they put them in, right? So those have to be cut and the met they have the metal and stuff, so what?

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Maybe there's different ones because I've seen ones that you could like. There's a direct install yourself. There's a deal.

SPEAKER_07 10:50

Maybe, but they're not as nice. Because these ones have like you can't even tell they're there when they're off. Like they look like they're part of the uh soffit.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 10:59

With the metal white metal.

SPEAKER_05 11:01

I've seen the home the homebrew ones, and they don't look as nice as those ones do, I don't think. Because they literally take new fascia and put it on. No, they don't. They don't? No.

SPEAKER_03 11:09

Well then you can do it yourself.

SPEAKER_07 11:11

They don't put new fascia on, but the the metal they use basically blends and it looks like it is the soffit or the fascia. No, it looks so. You could, but it'd be a giant pain. Like you'd have to get all the metal and like this all comes.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

No, I'm saying like you I'm saying you buy the piece fully and then install it. I've seen people do that.

SPEAKER_07 11:28

Oh, okay. So they have to measure, like, get them to like the right measurements then?

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Yeah. Like you can order um tons online, just measure. It's similar, but the the electrician part would be the part that I need to be. And you could fall off the ladder, so it's not good. Yeah. 90%. 90%. But you'd let you live though. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:46

I bet I could do a 20-foot fall.

SPEAKER_02 11:49

I bet you could do one pull-up with 20 pounds in your hand. Or 20 pound plate with one foot.

SPEAKER_05 11:55

No, it's a dead hang. It's a dead hang and I'm still working on it.

SPEAKER_06 11:58

Are you still working on it? Yeah. Liar.

SPEAKER_05 12:00

I I honestly finished my finish my workouts with a dead hang, and I do a little bit of weighted, and then I just do a dead hang for stretching my back out. And I I feel like I'm getting better. I haven't really time trialed it, but I should do it again.

SPEAKER_07 12:10

Uh thinking about the landing on the head thing reminded me of that new stupid. Like so it's like power slap, you know how dumb that is. They smack each other. This is the worst. This is worse than that. It's where those two dudes run at each other as hard as they can watch.

SPEAKER_05 12:24

They have one in Vegas right now.

SPEAKER_07 12:25

Yeah, it's like a legit, it's like a sport now that they're doing where just two guys. Are they wearing helmets?

SPEAKER_05 12:30

No, no, no, no, but they're like barely knocked out. Yeah, barely tape on their fingers.

SPEAKER_06 12:35

Is this is this sport called CTE? Yeah, it must be.

SPEAKER_05 12:39

I thought it was a rugby-based thing, but it's just like a legitimate sport. Is it straight up rugby players?

SPEAKER_02 12:44

I think it started in Australia. Some big boys at this point.

SPEAKER_07 12:49

There's I like there that's more that's more stupid than Power Slap. Like, but you're guaranteed in you're guaranteed. What is this called?

SPEAKER_02 12:57

CTE.

SPEAKER_07 12:58

C T E. I don't know. Um there is. There's a couple company in this in Australia. Juggernaut. Uh, but like they I don't know how they started basically, I don't know, 20 yards away from each other and then run full full sport where idiots run at each other. Yeah, it's absolutely insane.

SPEAKER_05 13:16

Yeah, it looks yeah. It looks really good to watch.

SPEAKER_07 13:21

Well it's like it's just like I don't even like watching it because it's like you guys are you're you're wrecked. Like there's nothing coming, nothing good comes out of this.

SPEAKER_05 13:30

Yeah, but like my entertainment value is when you know if someone like takes the hit and stays up, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_07 13:35

Have you watched that power that show on Netflix? Uh the Asia physical Asia. Asia, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

Oh, run it straight, yeah, that's what it's called.

SPEAKER_07 13:45

They went a little more intense this year. Yeah, I'm not done it yet. I'm watching the teams one. Yeah, where it has like different um Asian country teams, and they go team against team. It's it's it's hilarious. Like the editing is so funny.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Like the dumbing.

SPEAKER_07 14:00

And the three they always repeat things three times when something happens, like bam, bam, bam. It's always like a three cut back to the same thing. It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_06 14:07

Oh, so this is supposed to be rugby players that are all doing it.

SPEAKER_05 14:09

Yeah, they look like rugby players. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_06 14:11

Like they're all the this is good because they're all like 400 pounds. Yeah, I know. So that's and athletic and fast. The thing about being 400 pounds is your brain isn't any better protected when it gets hit.

SPEAKER_05 14:23

Yeah, but they're not hitting each other in the head. I understand. I just saw him rage right there. I know, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that. I was trying to get I was trying to get him.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

But he's uh but power split. You're hitting directly in the back.

SPEAKER_07 14:37

Yeah, but with way less force than a full 300-pound person running directly into you.

SPEAKER_05 14:43

I think a power slap, I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 14:45

I think way less force. The issue is the acceleration deceleration event your brain is experiencing. 100%. It's like a it's like a car crash. That's yeah. Yeah. It'd be like riding your e-bike directly into a wall. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:00

Oh, nice kind of thing. Nice recommendation on uh that movie.

SPEAKER_07 15:06

Have you watched it? Are you gonna watch it? Oh, I I'm only halfway done. I'm only halfway done. Okay. Okay, then I was like, are we?

SPEAKER_06 15:12

No, I will probably watch it.

SPEAKER_05 15:14

They have like episodes kind of thing. It's like 30 minutes and then it goes black, and then 30 minutes and then it goes black. I'm on the second 30-minute interval.

SPEAKER_07 15:19

Okay, but how can you say good recommendation if it's not over? I don't care.

SPEAKER_05 15:23

It could go straight up downhill from here, and I still would still watch the first hour.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

I started recommending it before I completely completed it.

SPEAKER_05 15:29

I want you to hunting wives. You can't do that. No, and I didn't know.

SPEAKER_07 15:33

You can't start recommending crap before the thing's over.

SPEAKER_05 15:35

I did that with Hunting Wives, and like people watched essentially porn because I I said it was a good show.

SPEAKER_07 15:39

What is this called? Anyway. Uh House of Dynamite. Also, I want to hear your opinion when it's over. Oh, no, no. That's what I want to hear. So I don't care. I'm not setting up for failure.

SPEAKER_05 15:50

I hope it doesn't go off. Just be quite hope. Just watch it. All right. Oh, I like it.

SPEAKER_07 15:55

I like this girl too. A House of Dynamite is the show we're talking about. Um we can't talk about it because two people have to still watch it.

SPEAKER_05 16:02

So is it like a six sense thing where it's gonna be like save the ending? Alright, cool.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

Just watch it, bro.

SPEAKER_05 16:08

Anyway, usually made for Netflix movies aren't my jam, but that seems to be really.

SPEAKER_07 16:12

I I don't know. I feel like those uh streaming companies have made some pretty decent movies lately. Like, I mean, because they have the money to.

SPEAKER_05 16:19

What's another decent streaming?

SPEAKER_07 16:21

Uh there's like Prime has made some okay Netflix. I don't know. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 16:25

Netflix makes dog shit movies made for Netflix.

SPEAKER_07 16:27

They don't make it I'm sure there's been a couple dogs.

SPEAKER_05 16:30

I'm sure there is, but what are they? Nobody knows.

SPEAKER_07 16:32

I just because I can't think of them.

SPEAKER_05 16:34

I'm very defensive about Netflix. Made for Netflix movies suck. Wow.

SPEAKER_07 16:38

Okay, that's pretty good.

SPEAKER_05 16:38

Like there's good ones like Havoc and stuff, but they're never like I'm gonna watch them again. Made for Netflix.

unknown 16:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 16:45

I'm very defensive about that. Well, iTunes has made good ones, Prime has made good ones. Sorry. iTunes. Sorry, Apple. Whatever, same thing.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

1994 called.

SPEAKER_07 16:59

What's wrong with the iTunes? iTunes are still a thing. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

It's called Apple Music. It's not iTunes anymore?

SPEAKER_07 17:04

Nah, they're still iTunes.

SPEAKER_03 17:05

I think you I thought the Apple hit the button that says iTunes.

SPEAKER_02 17:09

No. No, it's called Music.

SPEAKER_05 17:11

No, yeah, I well, I know that that's what it does, but like it's called iTunes, isn't it?

SPEAKER_06 17:16

You don't worry, you can download it right onto your iPod.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Are we dumb? Is it is it not iTunes? We're not dumb. It's never been iTunes. Well, sorry, it's never it was originated as iTunes. It's just called Alpha Music.

SPEAKER_07 17:29

Uh Extraction. That was good.

unknown 17:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:32

Is that the one with Chris Helms? That was Emsworth.

SPEAKER_07 17:34

Chris Emsworth, yeah. Is that one you would watch? That's it. Made for Netflix. I have watched it twice. You just said there weren't any good movies made. You just admitted that was good.

SPEAKER_05 17:42

It is good, but I wouldn't watch it twice. It's not good. Most movies I'm not gonna watch twice.

SPEAKER_06 17:46

No, pump, hold on. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_05 17:48

And wait a minute. How is extraction good? It's interesting. It's not good. It's a different idea.

SPEAKER_07 17:54

It's interesting. It's sci-fi. Is it the prison one?

SPEAKER_06 17:56

Extraction 2 is literally gonna punch you in the fucking face.

SPEAKER_07 18:00

I don't know. No, extraction. Extraction is a sci-fi one where there's like uh they come basically come back in time to get people to go to the fight the war against the aliens. This is I've never seen it. It's really good.

SPEAKER_05 18:12

I thought it was the one with Chris Hemsworth where he goes in. Yeah, where he goes in and just it's like the raid.

SPEAKER_07 18:17

No, well, Chris Hemsworth is in extraction. Am I thinking of the right movie? Am I thinking of a different movie? The Edge of Tomorrow or something. No, that's a different movie, too. That's a good movie. Hold on. That's a great one.

SPEAKER_06 18:27

Everybody's timeout. I think we the three are thinking of the same movie. Yes. And you've completely brought us into a different movie, and now I yell at Jason for no reason. Okay.

unknown 18:39

What?

SPEAKER_07 18:40

It's my and it's your fault. And it's your fault.

SPEAKER_05 18:42

There's probably two movies called Extraction.

SPEAKER_07 18:44

Well, there's an extraction too.

SPEAKER_06 18:48

If you're just listening to this, we're all on our phones.

SPEAKER_05 18:51

No, no, we're not. So honestly, we're just waiting to find out the uh the right thing or not. Hey, okay. While he's there, do you want to talk about like the bear epidemic that's happening in Japan right now?

SPEAKER_06 19:02

The bear epidemic?

SPEAKER_05 19:04

There's been yeah. There's about 150 civilians who have been injured. There's 12 people have died this year from bear attacks because there is a decrease in the amount of people hunting, and so everybody, their main majority of hunters are over 50 years old, so they're not hunting as much, and now there's a bear epidemic in Japan. And you're looking at me like it's weird, it's an actual thing. I'm I'm intrigued. What kind of bear? Yeah, what's the uh black bear? Yeah, and so kids kids aren't allowed to walk like kids don't walk to school by themselves anymore. The police officers have shields in their uh in their vehicles now to like sh I don't know why. Yeah, because that'll stop. Yeah, they because when they when they do it, they get a hunter to come with them if the bear comes. They have hunters for hire. They hire the hunter, a police officer stands in front with a shield, like a riot shield, and the hunter will shoot the bear. Yeah, it's a whole thing. I it it's a legitimate problem they're having right now.

SPEAKER_06 19:54

Did you see the school field trip that was attacked by a grizzly bear in BC this week? No. Oh yeah. Is everybody living? Apparently. Okay. They can't find the bear, but um teachers and kids, and there was like some critically injured, I think kids and were they trying to fucking feed it or something like that? I I don't know. I wasn't there. Um but a school field trip being attacked by a grizzly bear sounds like not a good thing. Uh kind of just reinforces my fear of bears. Yeah, bears are stupid. Don't go to Japan. Or don't go to the wood with the mountains. Yeah, I'm just gonna stay here, I think.

SPEAKER_07 20:31

See, I like I like the mountains, but I'm always terrified of the bears. So when you guys want to do a run there, I'm like, I I want to, but I don't want to at all. Nick Bear would do it. Yeah, Nick Bear would totally do it. Uh The Tomorrow War is the movie I was thinking of. Which one's good? Chris Pratt.

SPEAKER_05 20:46

Uh, another Chris. See, that's where we got us.

SPEAKER_07 20:49

From Prime, it's on Prime. It's uh sci-fi. Back to the original argument.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

Uh but Extraction, is it good?

SPEAKER_06 20:57

It is good. There you go. You're so wrong. It's watched more than once good. Really? Whoa. From an from like an action standpoint. It's like John Wick.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

Would you put it like on the same level as like Running Scared?

SPEAKER_05 21:07

I would say it's a it's a less good. No, Running Scared is a good movie. Is that the one with the stifler?

unknown 21:14

No.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

It's horrendous. No, it's not Running Scared, I swear.

SPEAKER_05 21:18

It's Sean William Scott. And it's a it's an hockey-based movie. Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_06 21:21

There is hockey in it. And I do think Sean William Scott might be in it, but it's got Paul Walker as the that's a good movie.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

It's a great movie. It's so bad. It's not top five. Top five for sure.

SPEAKER_06 21:33

Top five in 2013 when I recommended it.

SPEAKER_05 21:35

Back when iTunes was a thing.

SPEAKER_06 21:37

Yeah. That's the other thing I want to be able to do. I had it on my iPod. Uh you can't tell me it was that bad.

SPEAKER_02 21:44

It was terrible. iTunes Store, still an app. Yeah. When was the last time you went on it?

SPEAKER_07 21:52

It doesn't matter if I know it existed.

SPEAKER_05 21:55

You have to search it. Cool. You can't make up the argument after he shows you the facts.

SPEAKER_07 21:59

I'm just saying it's it's still there.

SPEAKER_06 22:01

So is Napster? Is it? Is Napster still a thing?

SPEAKER_05 22:04

I have fucking no clue.

SPEAKER_06 22:06

Oh. Just making things up.

SPEAKER_05 22:08

That's all we do, essentially.

SPEAKER_06 22:09

Um, did you guys logged in? Did you guys listen to that podcast I recommended to you the other day?

SPEAKER_02 22:14

I'm about uh halfway.

SPEAKER_07 22:16

Is that the one with Sean Ryan? Yeah. Uh I I saw I saw the clips. Is this the guy that talks about like tick technology and hacking and stuff?

SPEAKER_02 22:22

Yeah, ethical hacker.

SPEAKER_07 22:23

It is, which is really interesting.

SPEAKER_06 22:24

Or like is that that yeah, I like him. The the last hour and a half, he talks about um the have you guys heard of this what is it, the 764 community group? I just saw the clips that he was essentially so this is the fucked up thing, and I probably won't be able to do it justice. It's essentially a group in the US that's labeled as a domestic terrorist group. Um, and I'll remind me of this when we're done our podcast, and I'll give you some more context, but they are mostly comprised of teenagers, so that 15 to 20 year old incel kind of vibe.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

I've heard of uh I've heard of it.

SPEAKER_06 23:06

Yeah, and so they are using places like Roblox and Minecraft to target um other kids and force these kids to sorry, this podcast is getting dark real quick. Uh force these kids to like, you know, carve things into their skin or harm themselves or harm or kill their pets or harm or kill people or kill themselves on video. It's dark. Um, they play a couple clips at the end of that podcast that like you'll listen to these clips and you'll be like, I don't know if I want to keep listening. Like it's it's dark. Um, but the the crux of it is basically do not let your kids on Minecraft and Roblox. But like awesome.

SPEAKER_05 23:47

You can do it solo. Two favorite games. Yeah. But my kids, both all both my kids, my youngest doesn't, but my other two kids play. Just do they do solo stuff and they play with each other on Minecraft education. That's about it.

unknown 23:59

Sure.

SPEAKER_06 24:00

And I can't do it.

SPEAKER_05 24:00

Is that is that like the way around it? Like just not letting them have that chat and other people feature?

SPEAKER_06 24:04

Uh I don't I don't know enough about the games.

SPEAKER_05 24:06

I mean, I think you can run it solo, essentially, is what it is, with no no one else.

SPEAKER_06 24:11

But are you supervising your kids the entire time they're on there?

SPEAKER_05 24:14

Well, they gotta do it.

SPEAKER_07 24:14

Well, that can be you can do like essentially offline. You don't I mean, yeah, you don't have to be online chatting with people to do it. Right.

SPEAKER_06 24:20

But there's also apparently yeah, I think it was in Roblox because people can make worlds or whatever it's called. Oh, yeah, it's bad. And they have like Charlie Kirk assassination simulators that kids can access, and it's like oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:32

I I I took Roblox for about a week and I just looked at it. If you run the solo one like we do offline, it's not that bad. But if you go online and don't have your filters set where I started at the point where you download it and like hit go, it is bad.

SPEAKER_02 24:46

So and like but do you have to search it or is it just there?

SPEAKER_05 24:50

You can search it. You go you know, you can go to like servers, like you look through with servers and all that kind of stuff to see who has created what these worlds and all that, and you can just find it very easily. You can find some weird stuff. Yeah. So you just gotta you if you go into your parent account and just adjust the settings down, it eliminates all that stuff when your kid logs on. But if you don't, like when you just hit start and you're just like, here you go, it's it's horrendous, like it's terrible.

SPEAKER_06 25:14

Yeah, and I I don't know if you're like this group of parents is the people that that perhaps message is aimed at, but um, you can imagine how many parents just cut their kids loose on these things, right? And with the the quote that stuck out for me is um and he kind of said he's like when you give your kid an iPad or access to these games, you're not giving your kid the access to the world, you're giving the world access to your kid. Oh yeah, and I was like, ooh, that one hits a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 25:45

Is is this the guy he's like a skinny white guy? He's been on a couple times, I think. I I like him.

SPEAKER_06 25:51

Yeah, because he exposed this big pedophile ring um last time with some a bunch of like US politicians and stuff apart over something like that. Oh super interesting. I've never listened to him talk before, but um yeah, if you're a parent and letting your kid access these things, I guess certainly unmonitored, like who fuck.

SPEAKER_07 26:10

Some of those uh hacking devices he showed are insane too. Yeah, they're super neat. Like that well, the flipper device that that guy had in front of us at that stupid uh girl's phone or whatever it was. Yeah, it was so cool. That was at uh the CGI in Vegas.

SPEAKER_05 26:23

And they're not expensive either, those flippers.

SPEAKER_07 26:24

No, they're like 150 bucks, I think. I can they seem like you have to obviously figure out how to use them, but they're a weird but it'd be so easy.

SPEAKER_06 26:33

You have something like that, you could sit outside of somebody's house, wait till they open their garage door, collect the code for their garage door. Yep. And I don't know about you, I definitely lock my garage door all the time. Um you could go into their house when they're gone just through their garage, like with a hundred and fifty dollar device. It's not hard. No.

SPEAKER_07 26:53

And that stuff's only gonna get easier to access and more complicated to like um stop. Like, I don't even know how you prevent that now. But like, yeah, like I don't know if you can prevent that now. The garage code captures stuff, like I have no idea how that all works.

SPEAKER_05 27:09

Yeah, all I know is I've seen a lot more and got a lot more emails, and there's a couple lawsuits now going on. Like, just data breaches are everywhere now. And uh there was a really big one that just happened, too. They're going through a loss. Oh, it's Amazon. Um, a bunch of customers. So like there's a lot more data breaches now, too. So I feel like we're on the losing end of a cybersecurity.

SPEAKER_07 27:29

Well, completely, especially add quantum computing to that realm where there's where it's just there's no security unless they develop it with the technology, obviously. But I feel like that's always gonna be behind a little bit.

SPEAKER_06 27:41

You should go search your your name, your email in one of those no data breach. Oh, because ignorance of the problem solves the problem.

SPEAKER_05 27:49

No, I'm in there for sure.

SPEAKER_06 27:51

Because I searched my name the other day and my my an old password and my email address came up.

SPEAKER_07 27:56

Yeah, I know well, I know that like um I think Google tells you if you use a reuse a password that's been breached, it'll tell you. Have you ever seen that pop up?

SPEAKER_05 28:06

No, yeah, I've seen that.

SPEAKER_07 28:07

Yeah, so like that's why like I use uh a password app now, and I basically use those stupid strong password suggestion ones every time now, and it's you obviously can't remember them because they're like 16 things, and well it's that, and then was it the authenticator apps that you can do now?

SPEAKER_05 28:21

Like that it's so secure, but like it's so annoying. I never have success with the authenticator stuff.

SPEAKER_07 28:27

I still use I use the Google Google authenticator. I should yeah. I don't know. My it's funny because like I started doing that, but there's like my wife does not. I know my parents, there's zero chance my parents do. Like I think that's the thing, is like as you're the the people who kind of caught the end of technology later in their life, they're gonna be the most at risk, just like they are for like the telephone scams and that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_06 28:52

I kind of feel like we're a little bit at risk for it.

SPEAKER_07 28:54

We are for sure, but I would say that like I've already started changing some of my behaviors with them passwords, especially, but like I don't think that's I don't know if that's normal.

SPEAKER_06 29:04

Yeah, I don't know what the answer is. It's not gonna get better. And I mean, I guess data brokers having your data is one thing, it's another thing for your data being on the dark web when you're not gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_07 29:14

I don't know, I literally know nothing about the dark web. Like I know it's there, I know it exists, I know it's like the vast majority of the web. Like I know there isn't like there's like a what a percentage of it is like the dark web. And I don't but I I couldn't I could not tell you how to even get to it.

SPEAKER_05 29:30

Oh, you it's easy. You just you can download the onion router, it's just a browser, and it just does it all for you. But like it literally it is that easy. Oh it's a Tor browser.

SPEAKER_07 29:39

Weird. But like why would you do that?

SPEAKER_05 29:43

Uh nefarious reasons.

SPEAKER_07 29:44

Okay, is there any but is there any is there any like logical reason that isn't bad that you would go do that?

SPEAKER_05 29:50

No. The only the only reason I would say is if you wanted to mask your IP address further than just a VPN, that would be the way to do it so you can now navigate the internet normally. But like it's just an extra layer of protection um like than a VPN.

SPEAKER_07 30:07

Downloading movies and like illegally Yeah, but just use a VPN.

SPEAKER_05 30:10

Like it just it makes it a little slower too because you're bouncing through nodes, like it just it doesn't make any sense. The only reason you do it is for like bad things, like bad things, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:18

Yeah, listen listen to the podcast. I I really plan on it. I just have I just have a yeah, it's five hours, but it's worth listening to.

SPEAKER_05 30:25

Our kids are heating us up because our rule is like you can do the computer, Minecraft, robot, whatever, but you gotta be at the kitchen table because we're usually kind of in like the open area of our main floor, and they're starting to heat us up about that a little bit. And I don't think I'm gonna change that rule. You probably have to listen to this. I won't either.

SPEAKER_06 30:40

Well, and I don't know. I it's easy for me not having kids of that age. I like my stance right now would be like never. Never. Uh which I realize is maybe not realistic. Yeah, guess not.

SPEAKER_05 30:50

It is like I played Minecraft for like a week on my phone before I gave it to the kids, and it is it's pretty fun. I'm not gonna lie, it is it is pretty fun.

SPEAKER_06 30:57

Of course it's fun. They have the smartest people in the world making these games. Yeah, of course it's fun. But I don't know. I I guess I'll be curious to see if you share the same gravity of concern that I'm currently have after listening to this podcast, because that's where I get all of my information in life from. Well, I have the same concern.

SPEAKER_05 31:16

I just just don't let them do multiplayer anything.

SPEAKER_06 31:19

But you can't tell me that you trust enough that they're not gonna find ways around whatever controls you impose. At this age, I'm safe. Sure, for what, another year?

SPEAKER_05 31:29

Yeah, probably probably two or three years, I know. Like even at school, they're using they're using VPNs to get around firewalls that the school has, right?

SPEAKER_07 31:35

But at a certain point, at a certain point, you have You gotta set them free? You have you do, and you've raised your kids to to a certain age where they you you're hoping that they have an idea of what's right, what's wrong, what's acceptable, what isn't acceptable, um that they trust their feeling. If someone's being weird and creepy to them, that they trust that that that feeling of that and don't you know what I mean? And they have some self-worth. Some self self-wow, that was really hard. Self-worth so that um if someone comes to them and says, Hey, Lil, if you want to be part of the group and be a cool kid, you need to do this thing, that's not gonna matter to them because they have a grounding in uh their life that they don't need that. And so at a s because at a certain point, you you're gonna you have to let them get get comfortable with technology and using it, and uh it's the world, it's the world they're gonna live in, it's gonna world they're gonna have to operate in. Um and it is the use, it is the world of the social, how kids deal uh hang out together socially, and it's as annoying as it can be. Um I just think like you're not you I don't know, you have to set up the ground rules young for sure. The and the younger they are, the more those restrictions, and the more that that uh has to happen for sure. But at a certain point, like my 15-year-old, I have to trust that she uh recognizes um things and she can kind of take action on her own in terms of ah, I don't think this is good for me. And sure, that she's 15 and she makes mistakes.

SPEAKER_06 33:03

That's legitimately what kids that age are not good at doing.

SPEAKER_07 33:06

Well, I would say some of them aren't. I would say a lot of them are. I I think it depends on how they were raised, a lot of it.

SPEAKER_06 33:12

Sure, but you can't say that.

SPEAKER_07 33:14

I'm not saying they don't make mistakes.

SPEAKER_06 33:15

Yeah, but you also can't say just because you may have checked like the boxes of raising them properly doesn't mean they would be immune to the influences of because it's one like you said, like, oh, you know, if you want to be a part of the group, but there's also other things, right? Like, hey, you have low self-esteem, or hey, you meet a guy that you really like that starts to extort you for these things. Hey, you make a bad decision, you send naked photos of yourself, and suddenly they're forcing you to do XYZ. You could have raised a kid right the whole time and they could still make those decisions. Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

So then what what are you saying is the way to prevent that?

SPEAKER_06 33:50

Just starting a community in the woods.

SPEAKER_05 33:52

Yeah, that's the only way to do it is to not dip your toe in the pool. Yeah, but yeah, but it's not in today's world, that's very hard.

SPEAKER_06 34:00

I just think the the um like the displacement of onus or responsibility, which I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but to say, like, oh, we just need to trust them to make the right decision. They're kids, they're fucking idiots. They don't make the right decision.

SPEAKER_07 34:14

But even if they did the right thing. But okay, but you're saying that you yeah, but I hear what you're saying for sure. But at a certain point, you have to start letting go of some of that thing, and you have to, again, you are relying on the previous 15 years that you raised them to hopefully to make good decisions in the moment. And I know they're gonna make mistakes, but not to the extent that like they're seeking validation through some random stranger on the internet because they get that, they get that through their house, they get that through their family and the current friends and the groups that they're currently with, who hopefully you've curated a little bit throughout life, um, in terms of pushing them in direction of like sports or things and activities, and then you end up in with some somewhat like-minded individual families that have same the same kind of ideas about things. Um, and all of that hopefully is enough. And it might not be, I'm I'm with you, but hopefully that's enough so that that that validation seeking, which I think is what a lot of this becomes, isn't needed. A lot of the people who join gangs and a lot of the people who do who do these things are because they're looking for that validation, they're looking for someone to say, hey, like, hey, I got you. Like, you do this thing for me, and you're in, and we'll we'll take care of you. You you got your back. And and I think that's not hopefully not needed with by my children or by yours. I would agree. Completely. I'm not saying that they still couldn't get sucked in, but they're way less likely.

SPEAKER_05 35:40

It's the same as like driving. You can trust them to drive, but you can't trust all the other drivers to drive correctly, too. So there's gonna be people out there who try to do that, but I I kind of agree with what JB says that if you don't give them these empty cavities that other strangers this sounds bad, these empty cavities that other strangers can fill, like the validation that they don't feel at home or the self-worth they don't feel at home, then as long as they have those buckets full, there's less of a chance that that person can manipulate them.

SPEAKER_06 36:04

Yeah, I mean, essentially you're you're speaking like you're talking about resilience.

SPEAKER_05 36:09

Yeah, I guess, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:10

Not just the resilience against the uh the external influence. Like sure. Um yeah, I don't disagree. Uh I and again, this is probably not the cross-section of parents that I think should like really hear this.

SPEAKER_07 36:24

No, but I also think there's a danger on restricting too much uh of your from your children. And I mean, obviously that that changes with age. Like, I think obviously there should be lots of restrictions at the younger age, but you have to loosen those up as it goes. Because if you don't, it's like the the forbidden fruit. It's like, okay, well, because I'm not allowed to do that thing, it's like it becomes much more of an issue. Versus if you're like, okay, well, here, okay, now you can so, like, for example, our daughter, like we find like, okay, you can have Instagram, but here are the conditions with which you can have Instagram. Uh, and then here you can have you can do this, but these are conditions uh with which that you can do this with and then again as she gets older and as she starts continues to make good decisions with those things, then you can start kind of loosening the grip on some of that stuff. Not just can, you have to. You have to start loosening the grip on some of that stuff. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 37:23

Yeah, there's no way to if you shut them and we grew up with people. Let's just I would say like LDS people. We grew up with around them when we were kids, and as we got older, they weren't allowed to drink and party and stuff like that because they were very restricted, and we know people who have left that around like the 17, 18-year-old Mark, 19, 20, first year of college, and they were more or less they partied, they partied harder than other people because they were they're missing that. Yeah. So it's kind of the same in that sense where like if you if you avoid them from technology, then they're 18, they move over the house. There's gonna be this whole world that they don't know how to toler or how to moderate themselves in. Yeah, so there's a bigger chance. I guess yeah, there's no way to do it there's no way to do it.

SPEAKER_07 38:03

And and again, uh, as they get older, you can bring make them aware of these scams. Like, hey, just so you know, there are people in the world who are doing these things, and because they're mature enough to understand that this is a this is a thing, um, and they're targeting people your age because of whatever. So I just again it's discussion, it's conversations, it's all these things.

SPEAKER_05 38:21

Like if you cook up some eggplant, hey, is this an eggplant? But just if somebody texts you that, there's another meaning to it, that kind of thing. Is that what we're going for?

SPEAKER_06 38:30

No, it's not. What do you think?

SPEAKER_05 38:34

Yeah, you you're you're in it now. Yeah, I with all the with all the kids?

SPEAKER_02 38:39

I'm very very similar, similarly to JB. Um Yeah, I think it's it's inevitable. And so it's just finding that balance of education and um monitoring. And I think also reinforcement of when the good decisions are made to like reinforce that like, hey, that was a tough decision. Um that could have gone either way. You made a really good choice there. And just highlighting why that was a good choice and what could have happened alternatively. Um I think myself I'm really bad at um only being hard on the negatives, uh, because that's easy. And when good behavior happens I often just overlook it. And I think when you reinforce the good behavior and give praise for the good behavior, I think that that builds those pathways of like um wanting to redo those things. So, yeah, I I think very much very similarly to to J B. And I also agree, like I think with the thing like the Roblox, it's very concerning to me, but I also I'm less concerned for the same reasons. Like Yeah, I don't I I'm less concerned for my kids to although it is a concern, I'm not as fearful that my kids would fall to some of those some of those traps.

SPEAKER_07 40:18

And honestly, man, like I think uh obviously you're in a very different stage of uh raising children than we are. We're on full lockdown. Yeah, and which you uh which I could I can understand like uh you the age your your kid is, like I I completely understand uh that that's yeah, there's no there's nothing like there'd be no reason to have access to anything, right? No, of course not. So but as as like as she starts going to grade one, grade two, and grade three, and then all of a sudden she's in grade seven, and then now everyone literally everyone in the class has phones, and like again, throughout those years, you're gonna build that base of um knowledge so she's aware of there's things out there that aren't good for me. Uh cell phones probably aren't good, they're they definitely have some some really good things about them, but and at that point where you're like, okay, I guess we have to get our cell phone, you should be able to trust that like there's a base built that you're not super concerned that she's gonna go out and do a whole bunch of crazy stupid things because again, there's gonna be a whole bunch of controls built in as well. So, and who knows? In that's how many years that's 10 years from now.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

Well, in five years, everybody we know is going to have Apple glass or no i iTunes glasses? Yeah, five years.

SPEAKER_07 41:31

What kind of glasses? Like the meta glasses? Yeah. Uh yeah, that it was crazy to think in ten years your daughter will be the same age my son currently is, but think about the what is gonna be different in ten years. Like, who knows?

SPEAKER_06 41:45

It'll be scary. And more so, I guess I'm taken back by just the fact that there's enough opportunity for predators to use these places to do the pr pre pr praying or predation. Um that is the world we live in, also, is that the you know, being more connected has facilitated more of this like horrible shit. Um I don't know. I also just got really angry listening to this podcast. Like I was like, I I like these these fucking dudes sitting in front of their computer with their little fucking pale skin, never having done a push-up in their life, and I just wanted to fucking tell them. I was so mad.

SPEAKER_07 42:26

That's why I don't feel bad at all. Those those videos where they bait them into like they bait them in to come and meet somebody and then they just beat the shit out of them. Yeah, like I love those videos.

SPEAKER_06 42:34

For sure. And and truly, like I mean, there's probably a little bit of like the animal kingdom justice that needs to be done there. I think so.

SPEAKER_05 42:41

Yeah, it's the only way to fix it.

SPEAKER_06 42:43

Well, yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 42:45

Well, it also it also would fix it, maybe, is like uh having strict sentencing for child predators or uh child pornography, but we've now uh have no mandatory minimum minimum for that in Canada anymore.

SPEAKER_05 42:58

So like it just uh that that was more meant to address a different situation. And it anyone who is charged with it, though they're still gonna get the same sentences, I think. That was meant to address like the 17, 18-year-olds that share that that was kind of the reasoning for it, and that's what they used as a justification.

SPEAKER_06 43:12

Yeah, I I actually I I don't know, and I I've I've read the headline you read. I never read the article, but I think to say mandatory anything removes room for plausible interpretation.

SPEAKER_05 43:22

I don't understand it though. Like if I like let's say I like like there was a comedian that said it, and I was like, this makes total sense. I think it was Louis C.K. but he's like, if I like he said on SNL, if I like Snickers bars, have you heard them talk about this? And if I like Snickers bars, and Snickers bars are the best thing in the world, and it's just it I enjoy nothing more than a Snickers bar in the entire world. And you told me if I ate a Snickers bar, I'd go to jail for what three, four years, I would never eat a Snickers bar. Right? Because it's the most enjoyable thing to me, and I would never eat it.

SPEAKER_06 43:53

Yeah. Yeah, I get I get the like the correlation.

SPEAKER_05 43:57

And the correlation to that is like, why the F would you even like I I that's the thing I don't understand about the buttons is like that if that was I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

I I I think he would eat a Snickers bar. Like that's where you're going with that. I think he would probably eat a Snickers bar.

SPEAKER_06 44:14

And and that was a statistic, like the thing is, is you would eat the Snickers bar because you think you can get away with it, right? If you thought that you were like quite likely going to get caught eating that Snickers bar.

SPEAKER_05 44:25

So let's do the do the grape analogy again. For every grape, your percentage of getting caught goes up. How many grapes would you eat? Each grape is worth like$10,000.

SPEAKER_06 44:34

No, and I and I I get that. But I mean that was one of the stats I was reading after I got really mad listening to this podcast, is that like when child predators legitimately, and it's not like we are obviously if you're doing that shit, you should expect to be caught because you're a piece of shit. But when they legitimately see it as a plausible outcome, like within eyesight, however you want to phrase that, they are less likely to do the thing. So if you think like, oh, I'm gonna do this, and then I'm gonna have these dudes knock on my door with YouTube videos and cameras in my face, yeah, that probably is a bit of a deterrent.

SPEAKER_05 45:03

Yeah, yeah, I I enjoy those videos.

SPEAKER_06 45:04

Yeah, for sure. But like, if and to what you say, like the the removal or the fact that like this the onus falls on the courts to deter this behavior. But if we can't, as a society, say there is no room for interpretation on this one. Oh, I agree. We're fucked.

SPEAKER_07 45:20

I I agree, and that's this is where like obviously you can't have this is where like some of the countries in the world like they got some different things. I can't say have it right, but like you you steal uh steal a candy bar and you get your arm cut off. Guess what? People are stealing that much around there. Yeah, um, and I'm not saying that like obviously that that's the problem is deterrence is important. Deterrence is important, and that's either deterrence through having strict laws if caught that they're going to actually mean something, but also that if society in set itself is uh says, hey, if we catch you doing this thing and we have there's no doubt in our minds, yeah, you're you we're gonna bring back the guillotine in town square. For sure. Like that was a deterrent. The problem is like everything, you people can get it wrong. Just like these like as much as I like these YouTube videos, what if they got it wrong?

SPEAKER_06 46:11

And I'm sure they have, and again, or it's like to Jason said to the mandatory minimum thing, it's a 17-year-old who makes a poor decision, and it's the the facts of it are not the same as like your child predator doing these horrible things that they do. Right. I don't know. I don't know right, like I don't even know how to articulate it because I also don't believe deterrence deterrence doesn't deter m anybody. Or it does. It does it deter somebody. Maybe, maybe, but like when you get a speeding ticket, do you stop speeding for a while for a while? Yeah, for like a block.

SPEAKER_07 46:41

No, I'd say longer than that. Canadian deterrence.

SPEAKER_05 46:44

Canadian deterrence.

SPEAKER_06 46:45

But again, the severity of the thing also increases deterrence. Probably. But like for these people who have these addictions, I guess. Do you think it makes a difference to them for to hear, oh, it's gonna be five years in jail versus it's gonna be the death penalty? Yes. I don't think it does. I think they would still be the same shit.

SPEAKER_07 47:03

No, I completely I disagree.

SPEAKER_05 47:04

Just because it would make a difference to us.

unknown 47:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:07

Like if I was thinking about doing something wrong, take us out of it. But you would know these you would know better than anybody.

SPEAKER_07 47:13

I think here, I think I think you go from you might say that okay. The they say that tomorrow, uh, the death penalty for child predators uh who get convicted. Uh the fur they might it might not be like, okay, yeah, whatever, until the first one's live streamed, and now it's like, okay, yeah, this is actually happening. Yeah, that's a deterrence. I'm gonna stop doing this. Where do I where do I vote for that?

SPEAKER_05 47:35

Like, like straight like it's if they go on an Instagram live to do the uh the punishment. They can send them roses. Government of Canada. You can send them roses or whatever. Carney's got an Instagram account. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:45

I don't know, man. Like we keep allowing. I don't even we. I don't even know if we keep allowing, but these things keep happening and like technology's making it easier.

SPEAKER_05 47:55

Yeah, we don't allow it. The technology is created, and then people find ways to be deviant with that technology, right? And that's the problem, is that no matter what you do, any technology you create, someone's gonna do shitty things with it. Like, it just is what it is. I the pendulum will swing and then all of a sudden there'll be no, it won't never mind. It won't swing.

SPEAKER_07 48:13

It might, but it might happen after like the aliens land and murder half the population. When is that happening? I don't know. The Atlas thing. Depending on it's already happened. Oh, the Atlas? I don't know. I stopped looking. Yeah, me too. Did you look? No, you said December or something. I thought it was December.

SPEAKER_05 48:26

Oh, we'll know.

SPEAKER_07 48:27

Um we'll know what happens. Like it would take a giant world event, I think, to change the outcome of a lot of these things.

SPEAKER_06 48:35

But do you think because we have the technology, also because so much of this happens behind not only closed doors, but just completely out of sight, out of mind, is why this pendulum will never swing back? Because of like the anonymity of it? Well, yeah, because I mean if you you know the stories of some of the like the the you know, the green berries or who they were in Afghanistan, watching like dudes walking down the street holding the boy the hands of young boys, and you know exactly what's happening. Like, and I think we've talked about this on the podcast, but like if that was happening here, just suddenly one day they're like, Oh, like we're just gonna like people that child predators are gonna start doing that here, like there would be outrage. But because it happens behind screens and behind like here's here's the thing there would be they're okay.

SPEAKER_07 49:14

This is the hard part because I think there would be outrage, and I think the first person's caught doing that, or we see somebody doing that, and it's like an obvious it's an obvious, like this is a person taking advantage of a of a young child and doing uh horrendous things, and we go and beat them to a pulp and drop them off of the hospital, and then we end up going to jail uh because of it. Do you know what I mean? Like then like that's one option, and then no one does it again, and now it becomes normal, uh, because people aren't willing to step in because of the repercussions that are gonna come to their life. The other option is we you do that, you drop them off the hospital, and nobody cares and given cheers, and then the next guy get happens to, and then all of a sudden they all the people are like, hey, uh, this isn't acceptable, and if you get caught doing it, you end up at the hospital. But it and then nobody gets charged. I think people would still just find ways to be more discreet about it.

SPEAKER_05 50:11

Yeah, they would just they become shittier in secret.

SPEAKER_07 50:14

But that's still happen, but that's currently happening. The problem is like what the thing he's talking about is like countries where it is not discreet and nobody does anything about it. Uh, like a lot of those countries, like where the with the berets are at or like the war has happened. Thailand, I've talked about it before. Like it's just it's so it's so blatant and in the open, and nobody cares. They just kind of like uh there it is. Um, that that is also an option because that can that's happen it happens in other countries, it could happen.

SPEAKER_05 50:40

It would take a long time for us to get like that here, I think.

SPEAKER_07 50:43

I don't I think it takes less time than you think.

SPEAKER_05 50:45

Uh I think I think you actually think I think you're right.

SPEAKER_07 50:48

It does because all it takes is like a community within a community like dude.

SPEAKER_06 50:52

You could see that happening with some when the pendulum was swinging pretty far left, and you're like, oh, they're just minor attracted people. Yeah, exactly. No, they're fine.

SPEAKER_07 51:00

Change the name of it, making it seem less like a big deal.

SPEAKER_05 51:02

They tried to join the uh LGBTQ umbrella. I don't doubt that.

SPEAKER_06 51:06

And they were shut down good for them this time.

SPEAKER_03 51:09

Yeah, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_05 51:10

I don't know. Maybe they don't get quorum at one of those meetings. I don't know how that'll work, and they're just allowed in. I don't know how it works.

SPEAKER_07 51:16

They didn't order pizza. Yeah, anyway, it's it's messed up, man. I I'll I'll listen to the podcast. I don't really want to get depressed about it, but I well, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:26

I So imagine being this fired up. Let's say you had a 14-year-old daughter at home. Buddy, and that's like I would just you would you would come home and rip the internet, like rip the router out.

SPEAKER_06 51:37

Legitimately, for sure. I I don't consider that. I know it's not, but sometimes black and white solves problems. And the black and white answer is you don't get to go on the internet anymore.

SPEAKER_05 51:46

And I think most of us in this room are problem solvers, and that's the quickest solution to that problem. It's not a solution. It's not. It's not a solution, it's the quickest way to quickest solution to that problem.

SPEAKER_06 51:55

Keeps the blood in the body.

SPEAKER_05 51:56

Okay. Yeah, exactly. It is the tourniquet of parenting. Yes. Just ripping the wires out of the wall.

SPEAKER_06 52:02

I I don't know. I you're right. It's it's very rare that I listen to a podcast where I have like such an like extreme emotional reaction. I had to pause the podcast yesterday when I was working on my car in the garage, and I was like, I gotta take a breath because I'm getting really angry, and there's nothing I can do right now. Like it was, and I can feel it just in this conversation again.

SPEAKER_05 52:19

Yeah, we can we can see it.

SPEAKER_07 52:20

Yeah no, but I mean it's a it is a thing to be angry about. Like I for sure. There's no like it if you want to get angry about something, that's uh one to hang your hat on.

SPEAKER_06 52:29

We can't do well, you can do some things about it.

SPEAKER_07 52:31

I'm just saying, like, it's not a bad thing to be angry about that. It's a good thing. But you you can't uh you can't go crazy and rip the wires out of the wall. Just it doesn't it doesn't solve the problem for you and your your sphere of influence.

SPEAKER_06 52:47

If you came home and just ripped the wires out of the wall tonight, like what first of all, everything's wireless. Well, you still have a router, you dummy. It's true. But then there's like 5G. It's cool. Burn this whole time.

SPEAKER_05 52:59

I got some time off in December, January. No, no, we're good. We're gonna I'm gonna talk to my wife. We'll do like a couple days, like a three or four day just internet is gonna be.

SPEAKER_07 53:08

I feel bad for your family because every time we have a podcast, you're like, I'm gonna go change that.

SPEAKER_05 53:12

You might always do a family meeting. I do the family meeting first, then we discuss it.

SPEAKER_06 53:16

How about here's an idea for you? Don't run it by your wife. Say I'm fucking turning off either.

SPEAKER_05 53:21

I'm literally gonna unplug it on December 30th. Oh, we can't call people in a stat holiday, all that stuff to fix it. Yeah, I'm gonna unplug it, wherever it's gonna be gone, we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_06 53:28

Yeah, and just be like, I don't know, I don't know. I I don't know what's happening. All right, yeah. Also, all your phones are in airplane mode. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_05 53:34

I was gonna say you can also just use data.

SPEAKER_07 53:38

Is it data or data?

SPEAKER_05 53:39

That's a good point. It's it's both it's data.

SPEAKER_07 53:42

Like the guy from Star Trek was data, right?

SPEAKER_05 53:44

How is that spelled though?

SPEAKER_07 53:45

I don't think that's gotta be. Why would they not call him data? Tomato, tomato. I think you said the same thing twice.

SPEAKER_02 53:55

Potato tomato. Potato Potato Potato. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_06 54:00

Cantaloupe. Anyways, I didn't mean to take this in such a direct. Well, you're passionate about it, it's a really good thing.

SPEAKER_05 54:07

And you see it coming because it's gonna be coming for you.

SPEAKER_06 54:11

Not not the creepy guys in their basement talking to you, but like I would love some, as they called him on the podcast, a neck beard. I just would like to be just like, hey, bro, like I'm coming over, we're gonna talk in this consequence-free world.

SPEAKER_05 54:25

I'm just gonna Chris Hansen them but a different ending.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

Who's Chris Hansen? The Catcher Predator, Dayton NBC. I've never seen that.

SPEAKER_07 54:32

You would love that movie. You would love that show. You just met dudes in their houses, and he does what you did. We know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_05 54:42

We know it. And here's the police. But then the cops show up instead. Like they am like you've never seen it?

SPEAKER_06 54:47

Oh, it's like don't get rid of it. I'm sure I have seen uh you know what ones I really enjoy? You probably like these ones. Have you seen the ones with a tow truck driver that just reposs people's cars off their driving? He's like strapped.

SPEAKER_07 54:59

Is that the guy's that got a gun because he has his gun open all the time?

SPEAKER_05 55:02

There's a million of those. One in New York, I don't think he's strapped. The one I see isn't strapped, and he and he takes like his girlfriend or wife with him and she does the filming, and he always gets in people's faces.

SPEAKER_06 55:11

Oh no, the one I'm thinking of, it's some black guy stealthy. Yeah, and he's hilarious. And he just does it, he never gets out of his truck. So he'll like back up onto people's lawns and like rip their car off their driveway and then drive away. And like he's got like one of those autofocus cameras, so like as he's driving away, it'll like pan back to the house, and you'll see the guy running up with the go. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_07 55:30

Oh, it's so good. There's supposed to be some nice like uh little fancy hooks that just go underneath and pick it right up and go.

SPEAKER_06 55:35

Yeah, that's awesome. And then I always wondered like, does he stop like a few blocks down and strike the thing down? Totally, totally. Like, that'd be a fun job. That would be fun.

SPEAKER_07 55:46

It would not be a good job. What? No, is it an American thing?

SPEAKER_05 55:50

Repos? Yeah, they do repos in Canada, I assume. It probably just takes forever to get there.

SPEAKER_06 55:55

Well, I think it's the same as process as you evicting a tank.

SPEAKER_05 55:57

Yeah, I was gonna say you've just went through the whole process. We won, we won anyway. Um you won your car. But no, it's I I feel like it's a more of an American thing, the repos. Oh, for sure. Or maybe it's just American-based.

SPEAKER_02 56:10

The way the way they do it, I think in Canada it would be very much like, yeah, like the process, you have to go through the silly process, and yeah, somebody coming to physically tow it, I would say, is like probably low.

SPEAKER_06 56:20

Yeah, I don't know. I've never been repo'd, but I'm pretty sure in Canada the bank just calls you and says, Your car is now our car, bring it back. But if you don't, I think most people do. Just because we're Canadian and nice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:32

Okay, you caught me. If they don't, there's no punishments, there's no deterrent.

SPEAKER_06 56:36

Ah, exactly. Yeah, you'll be on probation. From getting another vehicle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:43

We need more government intervention then. We need more controls. Yeah, agreed. Yeah. I think so.

SPEAKER_06 56:49

We need our government really to step up and protect us.

SPEAKER_05 56:52

I feel too free.

SPEAKER_06 56:53

Yeah. Yeah. Because they only only the government can protect us from ourselves. Why are you holding your can like that?

SPEAKER_05 57:02

Yeah, I don't know. It's really bothering me too. Just to let the viewers know, he has three fingers on the can, he's holding the base of it, and his pinkies out. It's predictably though, it's like a like a fancy teacup.

SPEAKER_06 57:12

As soon as we said the word government, he just immediately just got like angry, like government. Wow. I hate the government.

SPEAKER_05 57:21

By the way, I asked I asked some of our friends who of like the people we know at the nursing home would be the most likely to start their own cult, and everybody has said JB.

SPEAKER_06 57:32

Dude, it was actually funny because I would start a community. We we came into the it's a cult. We came into the locker room the next day or the day after, and Tony was standing by there, and Tony was like, No, you would be the first one to join a cult cult or start a cult. I think the I the the jury is in.

SPEAKER_07 57:49

Listen, you can you say cult, I say community. Like we're tomato potato.

SPEAKER_05 57:53

At what point does a community become a cult?

SPEAKER_07 57:56

I I don't know. Is it like a membership requirement?

SPEAKER_05 57:59

It's when he does the prima nocta thing and then he walks- that that's that's cult.

SPEAKER_07 58:02

What's premanocta?

SPEAKER_05 58:03

Oh man.

SPEAKER_07 58:04

He's no, he hasn't watched Braveheart. Don't get me angry again. I'm so sorry. Don't get me angry. Never mind. Anyway, moving on. Well, there's uh there's the the things that tell what a cult are. We've read these before. Let's look it up again.

SPEAKER_06 58:16

Yeah, I'm sure our listeners don't want to listen to it two episodes in a row.

SPEAKER_05 58:18

Yes, that's just gonna be uh it's not good. Hey, what do you do with all the shoes at your house?

SPEAKER_02 58:26

Better not being worn?

SPEAKER_05 58:27

Yeah. So like you walk into your house, how many shoes are visible visible to you when you walk into your house?

SPEAKER_02 58:35

Not like is it just like a few years? Everybody has their own little like cubby or like a locker and like a cubby, and you put your shoes in your cubby. So how many pairs of shoes does like your oldest have in that cubby?

SPEAKER_05 58:51

Four. Oh, okay. I can't wait. All right. I was just curious. My wife said it was gonna get better. I'm like, it's not gonna get better. Oh no. All the kids have way too many fucking shoes.

SPEAKER_07 58:58

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

unknown 59:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 59:01

That was a weird random question.

SPEAKER_05 59:03

Yeah, it was, but it shifted gears, and now we're not talking about cult anymore.

SPEAKER_07 59:06

Ah, well, I just had all the things. All right. No, we don't need to talk about it. What were you looking at your phone for?

SPEAKER_05 59:18

He was trying to lure some neckbeard out to Walmart to meet him so he could beat the crap out of the wrist.

SPEAKER_06 59:25

We're gonna do uh what is that called? Run it, the run it straight challenge. With some neck beards? Yeah. Only difference is I'm wearing a suit of chain mail. I think it'd be hard to run in. You've seen me run. Yeah. That'd be fine.

SPEAKER_07 59:39

I wouldn't look any worse. I don't think you get the momentum that you're hoping to get.

SPEAKER_02 59:46

Are you are you injury free right now?

SPEAKER_06 59:49

I'm getting there. Uh as I think I told you last week my Achilles is feeling top notch. Yeah. Um, you know what my focus for the next little while has been and will continue to be? Mobility. Grip strength.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:02

Because that's an indicator of longevity.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:04

Do you want me to shake your hand? I've been working really hard. Is that because you're reading out live? No, I just I just suddenly was like, hey, I want to like have like a really ridiculously strong grip, so I've been doing a lot of grip strength stuff. I've been doing working my thumb.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:22

Oh my gosh. What do you mean? Oh my gosh. What do you how do you work grip strength? Well, many ways. Do you like a pail of rice and you just stick your?

SPEAKER_06 1:00:32

I am going to do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:33

I knew you were, because I saw a video the other day of someone doing that. I'm like, CJ would do that. Squeeze it.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:38

You can squeeze it and turn it, or you spear hand the rice or you punch it.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:42

So there's a guy I'm following, he does that, and then he's he went like this the other day just for the camera. He went like this.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:47

And it's like it's like you follow the same guy.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:48

No way. It's like pieces of wood hitting each other.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:51

Because it's the 72 something shaolin whatever.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:54

Yeah, I've already priced out some right. We're good. I'm gonna do it too.

unknown 1:00:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:57

Spear hands.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:58

Spear hands. Yeah, spear hands. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:01

So you're just gonna spear someone in the throat.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:04

In fact, playing with rice does that?

SPEAKER_06 1:01:06

Yeah, it makes your hands hard as fuck.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:09

I wash rice every day. No, okay. My hands are soft.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:14

I'm doing it wrong. You just put a pail in front of you, fill it like three-quarters full of rice, and you take it and you just spear hand into that pail over and over again, and it calluses everything up and makes your hand as hard as wood.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:24

We'll get a five-gallon bucket in the in the nursing home. Oh, that'd be awesome. That'd be amazing. Every morning you can just spear hand.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:31

I love that idea. Yes. Hey, have you guys done your your rice workout this morning?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:36

Rice is expensive though. I might I might just take a couple of cups every day.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:39

Like how much? How like how often do you think you need to do that to get some results?

SPEAKER_06 1:01:43

I think you need to do it. Like you need to sit at your couch while you're watching whatever show you're watching and just like do it for five or ten minutes every day, I think.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:50

Five or ten minutes while you're getting ready in the morning? Not bad. No, in the evening.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:54

Just spirit.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:55

I'm just saying, though, like you were just saying, bring it into the room.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:59

Totally. Um it would be funny. It'd be hilarious. But that that is one way to improve grip strength.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:04

Yeah, that is. Yeah. Okay, but is that how that like improves like hand resilience, but how's that improving grip strength?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:11

I don't think it's a strength thing, because he's going for like hard as rock fists.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:17

No, I think there's parts. I mean, it probably you know strengthens your tendons and because you're like gr you're like putting in and then gripping, like like grabbing. I mean, it's your rice, you can do whatever you want. Okay. You're like milking the rice? Like nobody's gonna look at your you'd be like, you're doing it wrong with your rice.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:34

And you turn you twist your wrist inside of it to get that wrist.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:37

It's not cheating, because it's your rice.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:41

You laugh. You just I I'm gonna I my goal is to be able to hold on to things. Yeah, what is your goal? I don't know. I want to have like an uncomfortably strong grip.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:50

He wants to be able to hang on to the one the bar with one hand, with the lady on the other hand, and just pull her up, pull her up to the top.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:57

You know that stupid thing they have at the carnival, the hanging bar and how we always work the carnival. I want to be confident enough to be like, you know what, I'm gonna fucking do that. In my gear, yeah, and just prove that like you're all a bunch of bitches.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:08

I think Yeah, that'd be awesome. That would be I think that that's set up to fail, though. Like, I've seen very few.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:14

Yeah, but apparently if you like hook your thumb and then I've seen people I've seen people do it. I've seen people do it as well, but I just think it's yeah, obviously very and you know what the people that I all have in common that I've seen do it?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:24

Grip strength.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:25

They're all fucking 18-year-old Mennonite farmers that makes 110 pounds.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:30

Those are the people that get the hundred seconds in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:35

Um, but yeah, training your thumbs, also really important for grip strength. Okay. And how are you doing?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:41

Are you using those things like the the sp it's like a spring with the handles on it? Is that a thing?

SPEAKER_06 1:03:45

Um if you like if this is like you know, like a barbell, if this is the bar, you can like take your hand and then you can hold a kettlebell with your thumb and you just go like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:54

So like a little pull-up for your thumb.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:56

I don't I have fat thumbs already.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:58

But see, apparently that that is a sign of having a strong grip. Is having because I don't have fat thumb bellies, is what they're called. What's a thumb belly?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:06

Yours look like thumb bellies.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:08

Oh my god, you're fat.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:10

Oh, I want to touch it. That is so fat. Oh my, it's it's like kind of yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:13

And like I don't know about you, but if I look at my hands, my left thumb belly is a lot smaller than my right.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:17

Yeah, minus two.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:18

So that's so is mine. Mine's bigger. You also have thick bellies. Can I feel those? What are those things? Holy fuck.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:27

Would the size of their fingers and hands be an indication? Damp size? No, smaller.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:37

Smaller ass.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:39

Like I would say shorter guys look more jacked, would smaller fingers look more jacked. Why do shorter guys look more jacked? They do.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:47

They a hundred percent do. What? No. You're what? Like you're talking midgets?

unknown 1:04:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:55

No, I'm talking your size, so you could take that whatever you want to take. That I would think that if at your size, you would look more jacked than a tall person with the same amount of muscle because you have less the muscle doesn't strike about it.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:07

So it's yeah, the ratio of muscle or the same amount of muscle. Because yeah, that's very difficult.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:12

We've argued about this before, and I'm gonna stick by my point that if you're shorter and you have shorter limbs, I could you could put 20 pounds of muscle on you and 20 pounds of muscle on him, and it's gonna look more you'll look more jacked than you can.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:24

Proportionally, yes, because proportionally.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:25

So, yes, shorter guys look more jacked. Thank you for all proving my point. So smaller fingers would have the same effect.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:32

But if you put 30% more muscle on him and 30%.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:34

Not percentages, not percentages.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:37

Your argument is stupid.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:38

Yeah, I know. This is we're not going down this one again. Moving on. Anyway.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:42

Also, fun fact about script strength. Uh, the stronger, so the rice also helps, I think it helps with your tendon strength, but the stronger your tendons are, the more force your body's able to exert, um, just in general, uh, like throughout your muscles, because something to do with your body like limiting the force exerted through tendons if they're not strong enough so you don't damage them. Does that make any sense?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:05

But your body, your whole body just working your hand tendons, your whole body gets stronger. It's like a limitless pill. Yes. Yeah, fuck it. Yeah. For your hands.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:14

Yeah, grip strength is like is like if you do grip strength, suddenly all of you will be much stronger. I'm down. Yeah. Yeah, that's totally totally true.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:21

But if you if you have more grip strength and you can lift more weights, whatever.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:27

We'll see.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:28

All right, pale of rice it is.

unknown 1:06:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:30

It's my thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:30

Well, I'm glad you're healthy. Are you? So that's your 30-day things, pale of rice?

SPEAKER_06 1:06:33

My back's hard. If I can get one, yeah, sure. Yeah. Rice is expensive.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:37

Are you healthy? We'll we'll buy just buy some crappy rice and I'll split the bag with you. It's all good. Am I healthy? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:42

Uh, yeah. Everybody's pretty healthy.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:46

Are you healthy? I got a little little thing. You've been rich good for that. Grip strength. Yeah. Probably help you. Yeah. Dude, my my you know how I always said my intendons were super fucked in my arms, starting to get better. So, like grip strength.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:58

Yeah. But we're I can't break onto shit. I can't. It hurts.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:02

Yeah, but you get some rice and you just start massaging that rice. Okay, I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:07

Like just like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:09

I watched a video. And then once your rice is you're like too good for rice, you just put like uh the shingle nails, like quarter, inch and a quarter shingle nails into that.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:19

And you just spear hand and grip those. Well, apparently you go from rice to beans to uh there's something hard in the side. Shouldn't sand be somewhere in that. Sand is after beans. Ooh, sand would be tough. Yeah, and then like wet sand, and then bricks, yeah. And then you're just punching through walls. Like this is like kung fu thing. I think it probably is like off blood support.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:40

Yeah, it is off blood sport.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:42

They're working on the you know what's gonna be good for your health and your tendons? No? Running another hundred miles. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:54

Your grip strength really matters in that uh those poles.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:59

Like at some point are you gonna stop punishing yourself?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:03

At some point. Yeah, yeah. Just not this point. Not this point. Okay. Keep going. Go one more. Go one more.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:10

Yeah, okay. That's that's what I was gonna say. Yeah, go one more.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:15

Sorry. That's just something, it's un unfinished, unresolved.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:19

Yeah, but it's but then then what?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:21

And then do it again.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:24

She's like, technically you've done it before. I know. You just need to prove to yourself that you can do it again. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't I mean, I'm not hating on it. Everybody's there's nobody's got their thing. Everybody's got their thing, right? Everybody's got their thing. Your thing just takes you away from us for so long. It does. I don't have to. That's really my issue here.

unknown 1:08:41

I know.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:41

We'd much rather you just stuck your hands at it.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:43

But I would appreciate if you I would appreciate if you kept healthy enough to like be able to come out.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:49

I am optimistic right now, although you know what the other thing I'm trying to do? Here's my other goal. And it's not gonna be because my knees are already feeling it. Uh, you know those four plyo boxes that we have? Yeah. I want to do be able to jump all of them. How close are you to that? Uh I can do the two biggest ones. So the two biggest ones are 105 centimeters, and all of them are a hundred and forty-five centimeters.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:14

I can do one, two, and three. I cannot do four. Four's the big one. I can do all like the like they're numbered, one, two, three, four. So from the biggest to the smallest. Yeah. I can do it with three on. I can't do it with four. Oh, really? Yeah. So you just need another 15 centimeters. Yeah. That's not that bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:29

And you were you were like close. I was close. You were close.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:32

Yeah. I just couldn't. The first day we got it, I came in. I was like, okay, here we go. Gotta try. Because like I I I know I used to be able to do that, and I was like, I can do that. Nope.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:41

Well, how is that like explosive motion you're working on? Yes. Motion in the ocean.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:47

Hip movements. Well, hips are part of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:50

But what what your knees are not good?

SPEAKER_06 1:09:53

It's hard on my I don't know, but it's hard on your knees? Yeah. Like I like my knees like hurt. Um, I don't know if it's from the jumping down. Maybe I shouldn't be jumping down. You should not be jumping down off that. That might also not be helping. At least not starting.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:06

But you're training for falling off a ladder. Yeah, you go, for sure. Yeah. Jump down. Yeah. Land and roll.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:12

Our friend Joel has been doing uh like yes, he does in the gym, he just sets up like the does plyo and does jump jump from C to jump to like uh as far as he can to jump the the push-up bar thingy and what are the with the big ones? The what are they called? Parallel parallel bars. Uh, and then he'll do that two or three, and then you'll he's just crazy with that.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:30

There is something fun about training athleticism. Yeah. It's fun.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:34

Speed, speed, power. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:36

Versus just like coming in and doing the same thing every day for years and years and years on end.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:41

Yeah, that's the cool thing about fitness, is lots of different things to do. Try different things.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:45

Get bored, try something else. Yeah, but some people, that's the thing is I know specifically one person, and I think you all know who I'm speaking of, will legitimately do the same thing every day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:57

But that's his life.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:58

I know, but like I just I'm like, like, did does this not get boring to you before I'm watching it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:05

Does it also involve uh punching a wall? No. Not the same person. No.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:12

Are you sick, bro? I feel like you're sick. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:17

That's a fair statement.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:18

Just believe it. I just believe you're not.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:20

I'm getting over. Would you like some emergency? No, thank you. Is that just vitamin C? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:26

I don't actually know if it. I think it might be a gimmick. I get the C D's, the vitamin C and emergency C's, but they have C and D. Cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:36

I drink those little Jinseng things from Costco.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:39

I see lots of people drinking that. That's serves me off. Fucking disgusting. That's folky.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:44

That's so shit. Oh, cool. Have I got COVID? No. Wonder why. All right.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:48

Because you got vaccinated thanks to our Pfizer.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:51

I got one round. Alright, I got one round. It's barely enough. Why do you drink it?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:56

Do you think like, oh, I'm coming down with something, I better drink this? Why not be preventative and drink it beforehand?

SPEAKER_05 1:12:00

What do you mean? No, uh, if someone in my house gets sick, I start drinking them. I'd drink one a day when people are sick, and I don't get colds like they do. That's a lie.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:10

Yeah. That's a lie. You are sick all the time. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:14

Yeah. Want to compare sick banks?

SPEAKER_05 1:12:17

Well, I won't. Yours is empty. I won't compare sick banks, but I'll compare actual sick days. Sorry. So what you're saying is 100%. I'm very open about that. I have called into work many a times and not been 100% sick.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:31

I feel like you should be less open about that.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:33

I could give two shits. Everyone's gonna be honest about stuff. I hate how people like try to hide it.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:37

Ooh, oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:40

Have you guys never called in sick and been like buddy?

SPEAKER_06 1:12:43

I I legitimately get stressed out calling in sick even when I am sick.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:48

No, you just do it.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:49

No, I've taken two sick. No, I shouldn't do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:52

I I come into work if I'm sick. No, yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:54

You literally called in sick once because you had a throat cold.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:59

Give it a little tickle in my throat. Yeah. When was that? Which time? Like which which which year do you want to go to? This year, the most recent one.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:12

Because I honestly don't know if you're I just remember circa 2014. Guys, I'm not coming into work today. I have a throat cold.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:24

Bring that back 11 years. If something like if the text comes across like that, you should know me better, that I yeah, probably okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:31

You just say uh GI. Yeah. I'm sick.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:36

Yeah. That's that's what I would say. The next shift. If I was sick, I'd be like, that's what I would say. So when you guys, when you guys are my supervisor and I come in and say, hey, just text you. General or GI. General illness. General illness. Then you're like, oh, you must be legitimate sick. Is it I got a bit of a raspy throat, and I think I've got a cold sweat going at me. That means I got other things going on. I'm very open about it.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:02

GI stands for general illness. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:04

What did you think it stood for? Gastral Intentional? Intestinal?

SPEAKER_07 1:14:08

Intestinal.

unknown 1:14:10

Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:11

It could go either way. You could you could say that too. I think that was like a reasonable assumption. If I had that, I would call in GI though.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:18

How many days I I've called in sick a lot of days, uh historically, time to time. You're probably the least sick or caller inner. I would say so. That I think is at this table. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:28

I would say on one hand.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:29

The rest of us have really mucked a sick bank from time to time. Yeah. That's why.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:33

That's why it's there. Yeah. It's true. Um I think it's teachers. Yeah, yeah. Teachers get 94 sick days a year.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:44

I would be sick 93 days a year if I was a teacher. Like paid? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:48

But don't they work like 110? I don't know. I'm not exaggerating. Well, someone's gonna fact check me.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:56

No, I'm no, we're just gonna let Daniel Smith talk. Go ahead. Keep going. Keep going.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:02

I remember hearing it from a teacher and being like, that's not you're joking. They're like, no, that's 100% right. And I was flabbergasted. Um, but it's the truth. But they didn't they they never use them all, so you know it's not true. I'm sure some of them use them all. Just be like, I have a really weak immune system. I can't help it. No, no, you got me like second guessing myself. Yeah, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:24

Up to 90 calendar days of paid sick leave per school year. Okay. After uh, but not in their first year of employment. In your first year, you only get 20. But after that you get 90. Yeah, after that you get 90.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:35

Up to with two months off and weekends, how many working days do they have?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:41

If I was a teacher.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:43

Just because I'm like, oh, what is a percentage? That seems like a super high percentage.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:46

It's wild. Like that's huge. You could be you could take a lot of time.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:51

That's probably a third. That's probably a third, um, is my guess.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:57

Uh school 195 to 200 operational teaching days. So half. So say 200.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:02

Yeah, so basically half. Like almost half of the oh my god. Take off his paid sick time. Cool. Sounds like a good deal. Pretty rad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:10

Yeah. Pretty rad.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:12

Way to go.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:12

You'd have to. They're fully paid. 90 paid.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:17

It's like, hey, at some point a doctor needs to say like you are indeed sick. It's not just a throw cold.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:22

No, for c for to confirm I I went into their their car that confirm you're coming back, you need that doctor's note.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:29

But let's be off for the 90th day. If I'm coming back, I'm gonna prove it. I need proof that you're healthy. That's exactly what I need to do. You've been thought for seven seven weeks. I need proof that you're healthy now. Kicked it, finally.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:42

Seven weeks. It's been a rough throat.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:44

That was amazing. Well, I don't know what they're complaining about. Oh god. Oh god. That was a joke. Are the nurses gonna strike?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:59

Yeah, the nurses, the nurses will go on strike. Are they striking now?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:02

Do we think? No. There was the I no get this wrong too. There was the A-U-P-E or C U P E. One of the two went on strike and it was like 34 minutes. Oh, jeez. And then they got they got they got what they wanted. Oh, really? Something like that, yeah. It was like really the A-U-P. A-U-P-E.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:24

Not Q-P. Oopy. They got what they wanted. I think so. We gotta stop giving these fucking unions what they want.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:32

Yeah. What?

SPEAKER_06 1:17:36

They gotta start taking away their chart of rights.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:39

I found out that firefighters, because they're they're going through some contract stuff or whatever, they pay for their own food out of their own pockets. At the fire hall?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:49

In Alberta, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:51

Oh.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:52

Boo hoo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:54

You mean they have to pay for the food that they eat? I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:57

I already I always assumed that they were given like a grocery stipe stipend or stipend or whatever. I would have I would probably assume that. So don't make that face at me next time. Jeez.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:06

Like you you thought that that and when they were working that their food got paid for?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:10

Yeah. I thought they were gonna have some sort of a grocery budget for the platoon or whatever it was. Because they're living there. Yeah, they're living there. If they're living there, they gotta pay 12, 24 hour shifts, stuff like that. I thought they had about paid food. They gotta pay for their plates, their cutlery, all that kind of stuff. They're provided with the appliances.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:26

You just buy it once as a group and then you have the dishwasher and just yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:29

No, the appliances are provided.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:33

Interesting. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:35

I guess. Yeah. Are you mad about that? Well, I I work 12s too. I wouldn't mind a little bit of a you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:42

I guess we have we have the same thing that they have essentially. We have the appliances.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:46

Yeah, we should have food.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:47

I would just love the ability to go as a crew, grocery shopping, come back, make this beautiful meal in this beautiful kitchen, and not be interrupted by like, you know, work.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:00

Enjoy it, enjoy it with your friends, enjoy a break some bread.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:03

Sit in a lazy boy afterwards and watch the sports game.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:06

Yeah, but here's the thing, you can do that. You just gotta apply.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:10

I can't because I would be so low in seniority, they'd be like, hey, would you like to do real work for the next 10 years? The time to do that was 15 years ago. Yeah. Best time to plant a tree. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. There is no there is no other tree being planted in this case. This is the tree. My tree is growing. It's just growing crooked.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:30

But it's got some apples on it. Does it? They're small.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:33

Does it? They're small. There's okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:36

Crab apples. No, they're they're gonna be beautiful cosmic crisp apples one day.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:42

Cosmic crisp. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That is your favorite type of apple, eh? Yeah, it's like a honey crisp, but better. Better.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:48

I don't know if I've had them. It's my bad that I like red delicious.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:51

It's just my goal on brand for you. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:01

It's hard to get a good red delicious, but when they're there, I like it. I like it. What's your go-to apple?

SPEAKER_07 1:20:09

I don't have one. Actually, this is fun.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:10

So if you were a cosmic crisp, Macintosh. You should be a Granny Smith.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:17

I guess not the terrible apple.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:19

I like a good Granny Smith. What would you be if you were an apple? I don't have a clue. I'll eat whatever apple is there.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:26

For the love of God, for once, if you don't say anything, you're a crab apple that's fallen off the tree and is slowly like just kind of rotting up with that.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:33

I'll feed the deer. They come by. Do you know every time on this podcast when we ask you to be creative, you just mail it in? Do you know that I'm not super creative? What kind of app are you? I don't fucking know. Whatever app you tell me, I am stupid.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:51

Wasn't it Dolly Price who's here and she's like, yeah, go ahead, make fun of me, JP. And he's like, you stupid.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:58

First of all, you all sucked at that too.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:00

At least we put out some entry.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:04

Yeah, I don't. Why is that bad? It surprises me that you're not creative because he is creative. By all by all impressions, you should be creative. He is creative. Yeah. Just not with his words or his thoughts.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:18

Yeah, but if we were to like rap battle, he would lose because he's just not creative.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:22

I could not never do that. Never. Could you just pick an apple for fuck's sakes?

SPEAKER_06 1:21:28

Well.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:31

Just pick one. Just say green. You're good.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:38

Let's go with uh green apple. Oh. Because it's a little sour.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:45

You'd be like a Fiji apple or like a gallon. Yeah, a gallon.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:50

It's always good. It fits in many different things. Yeah. You kind of typecast with yours, I feel like you're is Cosmic Crisp.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:58

Yeah, I because it's like the bougie apple. It is.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:01

It is honey crisp or more or more expensive.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:04

It's not about how much it costs, it's about what it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:06

Small batch tastes. Small batch. I do love small batch. What's your apple?

SPEAKER_06 1:22:12

I'd be a granny smith.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:15

Yeah. Like sour and firm. Tart. Yeah. Yeah. But like people that love people that love them love them a lot.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:22

Get the job done. That's right.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:24

People that don't like them really don't like them. See, was that so hard? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:32

That's a fun game. It reminds me of the game that uh the other two played on their podcast. They did um chips. So you'd name a chip and it's either a a boy chip or a girl chip. So for example, like salt and vinegar, and then boy chip. Yeah. And then so then they did that with like all the chips, and then they would did one on their last one with like Can you name another chip until we get to girl chip?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:57

Because I want to organically come up with a girl chip. I'll come up like jalapeno. Oh boy.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:02

All dressed. Boy.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:04

Trance.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:08

Sour cream and onion.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:09

Yeah. Boy. No, that's my wife's favorite. Dill pickle. You think a girl?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:13

Dill pickle.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:14

That's a girl chip. That's a girl chip.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:16

Ketchup? It's a kid's chip. Child.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:22

Yeah, dill pickle. Definitely a girl pickle. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:25

Yeah. And then they did it with like food burgers. So like Big Mac.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:30

Boy. Like boy. Boy.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:32

Boy. Chicken nuggets.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:34

Child. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:36

Well, and then the two of them both love chicken nuggets, so they were both like, it's a girl thing, but they both like it. Yeah, it's not a good one. That's funny. Anyways.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:42

I feel like a matzah burger is a girl burger. Shots? No.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:46

No? Dude. It's my favorite burger.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:48

No, it's mine from A and W, too.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:51

But it is a girl burger.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:52

Okay, fine. Mama burger. Because a papa. Is it like it's a papa? Team burger. That's a good one, too.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:58

Girl. I think team burger is a girl. Yeah. I like teen burgers, but I think it's a girl burger.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:02

Teamburger and Matza burger are the same thing. No, not at all. Because then they would sell them as the same thing. No bacon.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:09

They even named them differently.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:14

There's bigger differences, but we're not gonna get into that.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:17

Chocolate almonds. Girl.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:21

Boy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:24

I don't care.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:26

What? This is so fun. I don't care. He hasn't said a word in five minutes.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:30

Would you guys stop gendering? You can just see it on his face.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:33

He's like, I hate this conversation. I want to go home.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:36

That's hilarious. Let's do because he's a car guy. Let's do a cool car.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:59

I'm sorry. Sorry. I was just trying to loop you in. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:07

Why are you so angry?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:12

What about Coke Zero? I was gonna say we could do one with Pops. Yeah, because we all like our pops. Why are we doing this?

SPEAKER_05 1:25:21

Coke Zero? I think this podcast is over. Why are we doing this? We're not even taping anymore. I don't even care. This is good.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:28

Dr. Pepper.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:32

Grape Crush. Ooh.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:36

So anyway. Ginger ale.

unknown 1:25:40

Girl.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:41

Girl.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:41

Yeah, girl. But I do like a good one.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:44

I love ginger ale. Orange crush. Boy. Yeah. Yeah?

SPEAKER_03 1:25:50

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:51

Cream soda. Girl.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:53

Yeah, you but that's the one I think. What about that holiday uh vanilla Coke that they got already? That's a girl one, eh? AJB.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:07

He's gonna start playing Clash Royale.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:12

Okay. Alright, we're good.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:16

I've never seen you check out harder on a topic than that one. It was so stupid. Because everything else we talk about is not.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:25

No, I actually like that game. That that's I'm gonna play a little bit more.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:28

We should play more games on this podcast. It would be more fun for everybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:32

That's why the erotical apathy one cracks me up because they play a lot of games.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:35

Oh, they did they did the boy girl thing?

SPEAKER_04 1:26:38

You did two guys. I didn't know who did the two.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:41

I said the other podcast, your friends. I was trying to be like, No, you didn't say your friends.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:45

You just said the other podcast I'm like, is Sean Ryan playing this with the hacker guy? Like what I did. That was disgusting.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:02

This is why we need to videotape this thing. Did you hurt? I wish we had that a video. If you didn't catch it, he just spit everywhere. It looked like boogers running down your head.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:20

Very saliva heavy.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:21

That's the second best one I've seen. The other one I've seen was when he uh when Tony over here shot uh coffee on his nose from laughing.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:29

Too bad your grip strength wasn't better. You could have held onto your cup.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:35

Oh no, that's not good at all. Oh no. Is that like a meme or something?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:41

I I like those little dumb games like that. So like we decorated for Christmas yesterday, and we have a we have a tub with ceramic Santas, and there's probably 50. Ceramic, what's right? Oh, Sandas. There's probably 50 in there and they all look different. And there's my wife's grandma has like at least probably 800 Santas. But so we have this box of 50 and we unveil it and we name it. Every year it's something different.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:03

Like each Santa?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:04

Yeah, every everyone grabs a Santa, you open it up, and everyone makes a nickname for that Santa up because they all look different and we put it on the shelf. I love dumb games like that. You know who would not like that? Oh, I think JB wouldn't like that too much.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:16

So you guys both put up Christmas stuff on a weekly third? Yeah. So do you how long after Christmas do you keep it up?

SPEAKER_07 1:28:26

Uh ours is usually down before New Year's. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:28

So then why why set it up so early? I like I like having it up for the Christmas stream. But it's not Christmas yet. It's not even December. It's not even close.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:36

Yeah, but like the the magic lives all year.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:39

But then why then why do you take it down so quick? Because it's over. It's over. But it's the same thing. It hasn't started yet, and it's but there's like would you not agree that there's like anticipation of like sure so like I would say like December 5th or 6th was a good time.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:55

Oh no, that's when we do the trip.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:56

You do you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just curious, that's all. I I do do me.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:02

I would put well you we have Christmas lights up in our office for the last two years that we've got to be. I would put up November 1st, but I'm not allowed to. No, this is uh at least I've been allowed to put this up probably ever. We usually wait till December. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:17

We do the weekend after Remembrance Day. We missed it.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:20

Yeah, you can't do it before Remembrance Day.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:22

That's just disrespectful.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:24

When do you do yours?

SPEAKER_06 1:29:25

Well, we're starting now. He starts in the winter. Yeah, I don't know. Like it, like we bought some decorations up. There's a gingerbread house.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:35

I thought you were on my sky. I am Christmas pumpkins. There's a gingerbread house.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:39

Did you not notice the presents sitting in front of the front door? The hay bales wrapped in ribbon? I thought those are just hay bales.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:45

Those are hay bales.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:46

I thought that was part of your Halloween decorations.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:48

Yeah, I thought it was like a fall kind of hay baley.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:50

Oh, look at them again. They're presents. They're wrapped in ribbon.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:52

If I were to go to a corn maze, I could see those things and it would be in place.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:57

But in the corn maze, they wouldn't be wrapped in ribbons like presents. And the Christmas trees that are right beside them. I I'll have to take a better look. I didn't know. So I've started. Okay. Um it's it's this is gonna be a very festive year, like for decoration. Festive is very hard.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:15

Like different seasons direct that you have decorations.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:18

Dude, I'll take I will take the pumpkins down before December. It's okay. Autumn is still a thing. There has snow has not even hit the ground yet. It has, actually. Yeah, it's not a little bit. Snow has hit the ground one time. And tomorrow. It's okay to have pumpkins in November. Like, do you take your Halloween decorations the day after Halloween? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:38

Yeah, usually like a couple days.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:39

The day after. That's how it happens. Like it's over, and so you take them down.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:42

Well, when we're done getting candy, we always take it down right after we get back from drink reading.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:48

Alright, kids. Halloween's over. Pack it up. You know my favorite game we've played on this podcast is how many owls.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:56

If you could bring more gold like that to this podcast.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:59

Uh that would to be fair, that was just taken from another podcast.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:03

We can still we can steal from another podcast. We certainly are not creative enough to come up with it on our own. Nobody's listening anyway, so we can still they stopped listening the same time JB checked out of this podcast. We will not blame you. I actually thought you were gonna stand up and leave.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:17

I debated it. I was like, can I leave? And like I got the SD card in there that I gotta take with me. No, I can't leave.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:22

Yeah, like like it's okay to talk about things that you hate.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:27

I don't care to talk about things that I hate. I just would rather talk about things that like that aren't useless.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:32

I like useless games, though. I know that.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:36

We know. I really do. We know you like to do useless things.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:40

I do. It's okay though. Yeah, you've set the bar pretty high for your um successors in your current position. Yeah. I don't think they're gonna be nearly as creative as you. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:49

Am I fired?

SPEAKER_07 1:31:51

Yeah, at work, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:53

Oh, oh yeah, no, that's sorry. I thought you meant on the podcast. I'm like, is that why Tony's here?

SPEAKER_07 1:31:59

Yeah, we're slowly stepping him in. That's how we're gonna be. I think the torch will be carried.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:02

I uh people have been asking me questions about that. It'll be carried. Not with with a less whimsical sense.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:08

Yeah, you bring whimsical. That's actually what you are. You're whimsical. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:14

Just very red, delicious of me. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:18

Okay, JB. Sorry, do you want to go home?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:22

What would you like to talk about?

SPEAKER_07 1:32:24

I'm good. Whatever you want.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:30

Sprite. Girl.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:34

Yeah, that's it. That's a softball.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:40

Diet anything. Are you playing now? I'm just saying. That's gotta be obvious. Uh, is it? He took his headphones off. He gave up. He thought I was giving up, or so he gave up on me.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:56

I am giving up on you.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:59

Uh okay, I I got one. I no, this is from this is from Huberman's last podcast. Um if you were to have to live inside of a movie or TV show, what movie or TV show would that be?

SPEAKER_06 1:33:18

Like I like I just I could get to be.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:21

Yes, you're just your reality is now inside of the reality of any movie or TV universe.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:29

X-Men.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:30

Really? Okay, so does that guarantee he is an X-Men?

SPEAKER_05 1:33:35

Yeah, that's what that's what I mean. Like, you're not an X-Men. You are just yourself in this new universe.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:40

So there are X-Men in your universe. There's mutants. Yeah, you're not in requirements. Can I be an X-Men? No, your grip strength's not good enough. That's actually that that changes everything, though. Because like if you're just you're JB. Yeah, but if I can like be guaranteed some things, like I so if I picked uh I don't know like Lord of the Rings, but I get to be like one of the cool soul It's not hobbit. Clearly you're a Hobbit. Sure, but I'm Frodo and I am central to the story.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:15

No, no, you just live in your body just I'm just living in the Shire. Yeah, you just actually I don't mind that. That's actually kind of nice.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:20

The Shire seems like a nice little place. Hmm.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:23

Star Trek. Hmm. Would you would you try to be part of like the Federation crew or whatever? Fuck yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd just go with Wally.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:31

I actually be in that chair floating around, just eating food fat and floating there. What about you?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:40

Well. I was gonna say I am legend. You want to be the zombie or I could just be free Roman. I think you're dead if you're an I am legend.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:49

Would you be so lonely?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:52

Do you have my dog? You would have a dog? I have my dog. What is the dog?

SPEAKER_06 1:34:56

Hold on. You don't get to be the main character. That was like an integral part of this. But I can't do it. So you just get your own dog.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:03

I'll get my own dog. I'll get my own Mustang, my own rifle. So you're the main character. Got it. Driving around.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:10

No, you're not. You're just you're making it work. You're just taking Tony, plunking him in there, and you just make it work.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:14

Yeah, but chances are if you're in that world, you're dead.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:17

He has to accept those risks. There's a chance I could be dead.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:21

Like a highly like most people are dead in that movie. Will Smith isn't.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:25

Yeah, but you're starting from square one. If you go to that universe, you're starting like what you right now. Yeah. What you got on, that's you in there. Yeah, I agree. That'd be great.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:32

I go in the daytime, do my thing. Dude, you'd be so first off, the nighttime would be so spooky. It would be I would be scared at night.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:37

Yeah. Could they not go outside the the things, or was it just they had to get away from the sun? I can't remember Iron Legend. No, the sun. Yeah. The sun got him? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:47

Yeah. We have that in common.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:52

That's why I was curious when you got so mad at the pale skins earlier. I was like, easy, bro. Easy. No fucking pale skin. I'll just kill them.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:01

But you know that like unhealthy gray skin tone where they just like they've just been sitting in their basement drinking slurpees. So prime, dude. Prime. Sure. Yeah. Is that what pedophiles drink? I think so.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:16

I think so. Hold on, let me check. Coke zero. Boy. Sorry, we're just taking a run at you now because you've exposed your weakness.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:30

Next podcast. Can you come equipped with the stuff?

SPEAKER_05 1:36:32

Yeah, I'll come up. I love when people put their head above water around us and then we just jump all over them. It's such a good work environment we have.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:43

We're not a games podcast. Can I like that's not what we do? That's it.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:47

We're gonna go structured top 10 the whole way. Just like just like the other podcast.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:54

Do we want to talk for 10 minutes and just ignore the guest for the first 10 minutes and then kind of like introduce them?

SPEAKER_07 1:37:01

I don't think we introduced them this time.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:02

Oh yeah. Hey, who's our Tony's here? So Tony's here. Um JB, this podcast, we can literally be whatever we want to be. I know, and I don't want to be that. You've made that clear.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:13

Got it.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:14

Well, we mix it up. We do some like that and some not like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:17

Like some of it's okay, like our grape one is fun. There's some fun ones, but like the stupid naming of things and saying they're male or female is dumb.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:26

Dumb.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:26

I mean, it was pretty fun for a few minutes.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:28

Hey, if that game was a gender, it'd be a boy.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:33

You need to go home. Are we gonna have no, I thought we were gonna have a meeting as well.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:37

Yeah, well, not on air. No, I know that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:39

What time is it?

SPEAKER_05 1:37:40

Yeah, we need to discuss some things. Oh my god, it's 8 30.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:43

Okay, thanks for listening. I'm sorry. Yeah, JP's down. I had a lot of done with this.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:47

I'm done. Fuck everyone else on this podcast.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:50

We're gonna call this one knife hands or something. Spear hands. Spear hands. Sorry, I got it wrong. Spear hands. Call this one boy or girl. No, I will not. Bye. Once again, thanks for listening. If you enjoyed the podcast, share it with a friend and consider heading over to our Instagram at Average Superior, checking the link in the bio, and supporting the show. Have a great night.