#85 Back with Matt Champagne

We are back. Sorry. Thanks to everyone who reached out asking where we have been. Life was busy and February came and went.

Today we are back with a fan favorite, Matt. We discuss the state of the world and the usual. 

Thanks for listening!! 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:05

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SPEAKER_00 0:30

Everyone feels the same way you do. Alright? What you do right now?

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Starting mode last year.

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Do we miss all of February? We did. After starting strong in January, saying, Oh, we're gonna get so many podcasts in this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:00

We might not even get to 100 this year at this rate.

SPEAKER_03 1:03

Not at this rate.

SPEAKER_05 1:04

What are you at? Two? This is one.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

This isn't a boot. This would be three.

SPEAKER_05 1:09

No, we've listened to a few.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Yeah. Welcome. We're back. This is the Average Spirit Podcast. If you wonder what you're listening to. That's pretty average. I don't know what's going on. We uh just haven't made time to do this, and it's not great. But we're here now. With a special guest. Yes. One of our most listened to guests of all time. All time? I think so. Eight listeners. No, dude. There was like, I think both times you've been on, it's been a hundred-ish.

SPEAKER_04 1:36

I was discussing this last night with my um with my father-in-law saying what I'm doing today. Ask what I was up to. Because that's where we're staying while we're in town. And uh I was saying how I don't know if that's because people want to see what stuff I say that they hate, or or if they're actually interested.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Yeah, but it's like any attention is good attention when it comes to this kind of thing. So like the UFC guys who are the heel, or even WWE, like the heel, right? People want to watch them fail, so more people watch, or they love them. It's like Conor McGregor. You either hate him or love him. Either way, you're gonna watch the fight. What is it?

SPEAKER_04 2:12

Any public any bad publicity is good, any publicity is good publicity, something like that?

SPEAKER_03 2:18

All attention is good attention. I don't know if that's a thing. Any attention is good attention. I don't think that's accurate.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

No, it's totally no. What Matt said was the right way to say it.

SPEAKER_04 2:26

Was it what'd you say? Um, any publicity, no, any publicity is good at publicity, or any attention is good attention.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

No, no, no, publicity is right. You got it.

SPEAKER_04 2:34

But that's gotta be wrong.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

No, that's right. Because that's like the idea that like if eyes are on you, then they either care. They care either because they want to see you fail or they want to see you succeed. It doesn't matter because you're relevant.

SPEAKER_03 2:45

Have you read Robert Green's 48 Laws of Power?

SPEAKER_01 2:48

I have not. Have you read that whole thing? Nope.

SPEAKER_03 2:50

Uh not the whole thing, but that's a hard read. It is, but that's one of the that's a lot of laws. Yeah, one of the 48 is everybody should be looking at you. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Yeah. It's funny that they're trying to some people tried to ban that book, eh? What? Yeah. Because the words scared them. Yeah, exactly. Uh seeing photos. I started I started reading or listening to that book and then I gave up back. Who tried to ban it?

SPEAKER_04 3:11

Is that on the banned book list?

SPEAKER_01 3:12

Um it was the idea that like some of the concepts are essentially how to mess with your fellow humans so to get to how get power. How do you get power? And there's like well, this is this is like bad information. Not not bad information, but like people shouldn't know this, which is stupid. It's like nothing. Secrets, we can't secretly just knowledge, right? But they don't know that the people in power trying to ban it. Yeah, I can't remember. But uh, I know that to keep the peasants from the guy that writes those books. Um, I'm trying to see if you have any in your shelf. Robert Munch. No, not that one. Uh the Stoicism guy. Oh. Uh him and this that Robert Green. Ryan Holiday? Yeah, Ryan Holliday. He talked about how uh that book was very like the Robert Green book is very poorly uh received in a lot of a lot of circles. Because of because of the fact that they think, well, that's people could use this information and become like really bad.

SPEAKER_03 4:09

Robert Green and Fifty Cent are bros.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

Are they bad? No.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

Yeah. Fiddy's in everything. It's not 50. Fidd Fiddie. Fitty. Fiddy. Robert Green and Fiddy wrote the book, The 49th Law of Power, I'm pretty sure. I'm not even I'm not making this up. I'm not. If if Jason could actually show up to a podcast, he'd look this up.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Yeah, he doesn't do this anymore, I don't think. What is the show that's to be fair?

SPEAKER_04 4:30

Neither are we, so what is Fiddy and is it law and order? What is it? Power. Oh, that's a good show.

unknown 4:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:36

Yeah?

SPEAKER_01 4:37

Yeah. Is that the show that he's on? The well, yeah, he was a pretty big part in. He's in a bunch of shows, but that that show is like uh basically a business guy from the started in the streets, ended up uh having a legit business, and then it's kind of but they're still running drugs and stuff. So it's almost like his real life. Yes, I think so.

SPEAKER_03 4:53

Never mind. That doesn't the 49th Law of Power doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

Okay, well, maybe you should make one up.

SPEAKER_03 4:59

But Robert Green did write a book with 50 Cent. Okay, called it was called the 50th Law.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

No, it was so what happened to the 49th?

SPEAKER_03 5:09

We just skipped over that one. Okay, it's like the podcast. It's like 13, it's like uh floor 13. Or you can read 50's other book, Hustle Harder, Hustle Smarter. Uh, I actually have that book. It's actually pretty good. Yeah, it's better if you listen to him narrate it though. Yeah, I have it on Audible. You just read it in his book. He's an interesting guy. Like, it I mean, I I don't know. He's smart enough to adapt to his environment to like become better. Vitamin water businessman. Oh yeah, like super smart, right? Yeah. But he also, I don't know a lot about 50. Like, I I probably should read an autobiography of his. But like he had a rough childhood.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Yeah, but I wonder, like what gave you that idea? It's shocking.

SPEAKER_05 5:51

Weird, weird, lacking a father figure, positive.

SPEAKER_03 5:55

No, it's just it's just interesting that I love the stories of people that have really brutal childhoods and despite everything working against them, just succeed. Yeah. Like super inspiring.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

It is, and and it's like the people that you point to when people are whining about something, right, in their life, like, well, this is hard. And yeah, sure. It may very well maybe, and maybe I don't even know how hard it is because I haven't had to go through that, but people have pushed through things that are harder.

SPEAKER_04 6:23

We just had um I was at an event. I won't allude to anything more than that. But we're in at a fundraising event, Medicine Hat, on the weekend, and they had a guest speaker, survivor, something like I don't know what title I want to use there, but she was telling her story, and she spoke for about half an hour about uh trauma that she went through throughout her life, and it just like starting at a very young age, 10 years old or so, and she's probably you know mid-40s now. Yeah, I couldn't fathom the tr and you know, working in uh the care facilities that we work in, you get to see quite a bit or hear stories in regards to trauma. This was the worst I've ever heard in 23 years. That's insane. It was wild, and it took a while, and there's been some bumps on the road, but her life is together where there's no like she shouldn't be on this earth anymore. Right. Yeah, and that was just the whole room for half an hour, and this is a room who was indulging and having a good time and visiting, silent, listening to every word for half an hour. Yeah, and so you know, I everybody's got their events and trauma in their life that they go through, but this was just man, if you thought you had a bad day, we have no idea what a bad day is.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

Well, that's what's insane about like life, like the human experience is so vastly different from person to person that and and we can only live in our own heads, right? And so it's so crazy that we get so caught up in our own worlds that and our own problems, and what's the the hardest thing is that's ever happened to you is the hardest thing that's ever happened to you, kind of thing. It's like but like likely, well almost guaranteed, someone has gone through things a billion times harder than what you've had to um and somehow figured it out, or or not, but that's that's also crazy is why do some why do some push through and figure it out and some don't?

SPEAKER_04 8:26

Or even the something that the average person I'm trying to get the word normal out of my vocabulary because what is normal when you're acting when you say to a person or you're speaking about something, you're saying, well, that's not normal, what's normal? True normal's so uh so subjective, right? So when you're talking about uh this, you know, you might be a 17-year-old person who's has a heart exam where you broke up with your partner and you're thinking this is the worst thing that's ever happened to you, and then you think about what you you got 60 years less left of things that could be horrible that are gonna happen to you. So you better get through this one.

SPEAKER_03 9:00

But without the benefit of perspective, right? It's all that is the worst thing that's ever happened to you. And experience, right? But that's why we have so many soft people, right? Because they're like the hardest thing that's ever happened to me is somebody misgendered me. They made my latte wrong.

SPEAKER_04 9:14

Yeah, like this is a great coffee, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 9:16

Thank you. Not bad. Yes, very good. Very good. I hope you'd like it.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

But like what is what is the disconnect? Like, why because we live in a time of where nothing is hard. No, but I I think it's that, but I also think I we are um encouraging the victimhood side.

SPEAKER_03 9:30

Oh, dude, have you seen the like it not specifically to victimhood, but I've seen all these posts going around on X, which has unfortunately consumed a little bit of my fan list lately. But it's like autism is the new stolen valor. Oh my god. You're so brave. You're so high on that spectrum, you're so brave. And it's like, when did everybody get autism? And when did it become a virtuous thing to talk about your autism? I know, right? And in Walks RFK to explain why we all have autism now. Red 40. It's like autism. Autism is the new stolen fouler. You don't have it. Yeah, I just yeah, it's crazy, right? It's just we it it has become a virtuous thing to be afflicted by something, to be to have a disorder, to have a disease, to have something hard, to have whatever false pseudo-struggle you want to show the world that you're struggling with, because none of your shit's actually hard.

SPEAKER_04 10:27

But you're in a tribe now, though, when you're in your diagnosed whatever it is, you're now in this circle of people that how could that be a thing that you even want to be able to do.

SPEAKER_03 10:37

But like it's at the point.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

It's a community, yeah. Like as much as like we talk about community all the time, and as much as it's weird, it's a weird community to be a part of, but you're a part of a tribe.

SPEAKER_04 10:46

But I should we should have prefaced that there are there are levels of autism. We've all dealt with people who are legit on the spectrum and should be and medicated, but then we've had those one sort of no, he's just weird.

SPEAKER_03 10:59

And and maybe and totally, and you know what? It's funny because we joke with all our friends, like, oh, you have this autism, you have this autism. It is it is just this thing now, but like, yeah, there's everybody's a little bit fucking weird. We're all fucking weird, but there's a difference between fucking weird and like sitting there silently rocking back and forth because you're like a non-verbal and that's the tism that I can I can get behind behind that tism, not the other tism.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

Yeah, those those ones you can give a break to, obviously.

SPEAKER_03 11:26

But you know how it's weird, you can just on social media, you can throw these things out into the ether, into like the universe, and your tribe like immediately you can identify with me and be like, I'm a cisgender two-spirited, autistic uh female. Uh I identify as unemployed and celiac. Identify as unemployed as celiac. And suddenly your tribe has accepted you, the celiac tribe, the the cis whatever tribe.

SPEAKER_04 11:54

Uh fake chicken. That's why they have the TISM though.

SPEAKER_03 11:59

It's all the chemicals. That's right. People need a sense of belonging and a sense of meaning. That would solve a lot of this.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

Uh but I also think the fact that we even entertain that garbage is why it's still here, right? Well, of course. And not just entertain it, but then like do things that change our it's the whole thing we had about that one person on the block who's a kid's a vegan and all of a sudden the whole block's eating vegan. I can't barbecue. Yeah, or peanuts, right? Yeah. And I just think if we were just like, I don't know, we're just like, okay, yeah, you got that thing, cool. And but like give it zero attention. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

But picture that a hundred years ago, and it's like, yeah, I must this gender autistic celiac woman, and be like, Susan, get the fuck back to work. The field ain't gonna plow itself. Wow, why is Susan plowing the field?

SPEAKER_01 12:47

Susan. Susan is the new Karen. I think Susan was looking after the kids. I don't know if she's a plow in the field.

SPEAKER_05 12:53

Susan. Oh my god. Like things have changed. It's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 12:58

Back then you just didn't get the option.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

It's like, no, we got work to do. Well, which is also why that we've talked about this before, but it's also why like war-torn countries don't have that stuff happening because there's more important things to worry about.

SPEAKER_05 13:10

Weird. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_04 13:12

Weird. Like my house is rubble and I don't know how I'm gonna feed my children weird. All of a sudden my identity is you know in the wash now.

SPEAKER_03 13:20

It turns out I identify as hungry and cold.

SPEAKER_04 13:22

Yeah, yeah. Because when you and again, it's perspective, which you spoke about before. Yeah, is that at that moment in time, maybe that's the most important thing to you. Yeah. Right. But then when you hit a bump in the road or a little bit of struggle, everything changes immediately.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

That's what's hard with like some of these like protestings going down the in the states or other around the world where uh like I I think that there's a place obviously for protests and for people for discontent. Yep. But where's the line? And then where do you allow like at what point is it like so? For example, you're shutting down a highway for this protest, um, and now dude who's trying to feed his family needs to get to work, and like so who's who's um more important on that scale, right? And so that guy's getting pissed. Next thing you know, he's gonna drive through a group of people because he's like, F you guys, I gotta get to work. Um it's such a hard, it's such a hard position. And then when it comes to like, then how do you police that from uh like what do you at what point is it like okay, you've crossed the line or you haven't crossed the line? And I think obviously violence is the line. Yeah, and obviously violence is like the line, but that's also a super slippery slope where it's like you're in each other's face, next thing you know, someone's kind of shoving someone, next thing you know, rocks are getting thrust.

SPEAKER_04 14:44

Yeah, and now we're out of control. Now we're now we're chaos.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

It just seems like a weird, I don't know. I I've been like watching some of that stuff in the States. I'm like, oh, that's tough. Like, where do you you allow it because you you I think you should to some degree, like this peaceful protest idea, but that usually doesn't end that way.

SPEAKER_04 15:01

Yeah, exactly. It's not the sit-in, right? We used to call them sit-ins where they would just you know, people would sit on the ground and interlock their arms, but now it's to the point where we're yelling and screaming and antagonizing both sides, whether it's the police you're antagonizing, whether it's the other group that's also protesting, and you're just sitting and blocking a road or sitting in a circle in a park and just getting attention and not being threatening or violent or bricking or mischief or whatever it might be. I think that goes over better because all you're doing is creating hatred by violence and you're saying that, but then my but I'm thinking, has anything ever changed from a peaceful protest?

SPEAKER_01 15:41

No, from a violent protest or from an insurrection, definitely change has happened, which is the hard part, right? But also, where are you, right?

SPEAKER_04 15:50

So usually a really easy one is two years ago when El Chapo's kid got arrested by the police in um Mass Atlanta Play uh Del Carmen or someplace like that anyway. So they arrested him, yeah, right, and that's when they were shooting across the runways at the airport at I don't know what the hell it was Cancun, maybe, and all this chaos burning cars, killing people. So what did the police do? They released them. Yeah, so it all I think it all depends on where you're at. Very much so.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

But like the cartel in Mexico has like power, like they they have power, and they they can like so this thing that just recently happened in Puerto Vallarta, they didn't really do much other than burn some stuff and said, Look at what we have. And they did you see the video they had of the cartel lined up with all of their military equipment uh down this road. It was like it was like miles long of dudes with just some machine guns, tanks, all these things, and they just were standing there chilling, and they're like, Look at what we can bring to you if you don't do or whatever a therapist, someone that got killed. But they in the end, they didn't go out and murder a whole bunch of people or go to the like um resorts and kill a bunch of tourists. Like, I don't think they're that dumb because again, also I think they get probably paid by that.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

That's just bad for business.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Completely completely, right? I really do believe that. Tourist is the business, and and I think it is, and I think they own a part of everything in Mexico, and because of their legit legit power, they can tell and and the fact that I think that a lot of uh uh police and stuff down there have they've had to take bribes because if they don't, hey, we'll either take us or you're gonna die. Yeah, so it's like they have they actually have legit power, so then they can make change really easily, but that's my point is that's with the threat of violence or actual violence. Uh actual peaceful protest sitting in the park, nobody cares singing kumbaya, yeah, nobody cares. And so it's like on the one hand, if there's something legitimate, like so for if Carney decides we're we're gonna just amalgamate with China and now we're China 2.0 and we're a communist country, and a bunch of people in Alberta are like that's not happening, uh nothing changes from the us just sitting here saying that's not happening. Yeah, yeah. And like it's it's not I don't know, like it's obviously slippery slope. It's uh completely, completely. But if you how else can you change your environment? Because two even two protests, like there's no conversation happening, so nothing can change. Nobody's opinion can change, nobody's ideas are gonna get challenged because they're just in their group screaming, they're in their group, not this kind of conversation, yeah. Exactly, right? So like I don't know what the answer is, but I I just I see some of it, and I'm just I think first of all, what's the where's the line where it's gone too far? But on the other hand, if it's actually looking to create change, is that possible without it going too far?

SPEAKER_04 18:38

Well, even just think about what we've seen in the last year. Okay, so uh look at um probably the biggest protest or whatever rally would be the at least in my lifetime that I've seen was for the teachers in Emmonton. Okay, but there was a I've never seen people like that there. So what happened? Nothing changed. Right. Absolutely nothing changed. But then but then you look at the 200 people, let's say, that are carrying um uh Palestinian flags or whatever. I'm I'm just using what we've seen recently. Don't judge me. But like you're gonna block a road in Edmonton with a hundred people. Well, do you think something's gonna change? Because there's a hundred thousand people that were at the legislative building and nothing changed. Yeah. So you're right. Like, is it is violence the answer? You know what I mean? Yeah. Is an uprising the answer to actually have change?

SPEAKER_01 19:25

I I I obviously I'm not promoting violence, but don't think you should go do that. I that's definitely not what I'm saying. How but that's here first, folks. No, and but uh that's it, it's just it's just a serious question. Like, like you said, like all those people supporting the teachers and whatever the if nothing happened. Um yeah, and then you see, but like I think it depends on the country, it depends on the country you're in. Because in our country, likely like all the only thing that violent protest is gonna lead to is arrests and I mean they're gonna get released immediately, but but they're gonna get arrested, probably. Yeah, um, I don't know. I in other countries it's different because they I don't say they value life differently, but like they'll go out and murder some people to get what they want. And I no like no one here is willing to do that, nor should they. Like, I'm not definitely not saying that that should not happen, but civilized society. Yeah, we say that, but like it's on the down low. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 20:20

Yeah, so so so on that the conversation about Mexico and what's been going on there. So I've had this discussion several times, and nobody can give me an answer that I'll not be right place for answers. Okay, so yeah, I'll get my AI ready.

SPEAKER_05 20:34

Fox I'll get it ready.

SPEAKER_04 20:35

So I've been hesitant to travel to Mexico for a long time.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

I'm going into it.

SPEAKER_04 20:42

Not alluding to any reasons why that would be. Why is it that I've been there, you've been there, we've all have you been to Mexico? Okay, so I've never been to Mexico. Why are we so apt to travel to a country that we know like it's not beautiful that we know is run by the cartels? It is run by the cartels.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

We don't give a hedonistic fuck.

SPEAKER_04 21:08

But you don't care, you don't care until you care. Totally. You don't care until it's your heads in a bay.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Yeah, yeah, but that doesn't okay. And I'm not saying that doesn't happen, but like it it is insanely rare for a tourist to be killed down there unless you're out looking for some you're partying offers. Yeah, so like the ones that have gotten killed have been like in Puerto Vallarta, they go to the uh they go to the bar in town, they cut probably are those idiot drunks who look for trying to pick up somebody and then something bad happens, right? But you sit I don't know if I've I could look it up, but I don't know if I've ever heard a story where someone's minding their own business, hanging out at the resort, enjoying their pina coladas and their all inclusive vacation, who's been murdered uh randomly.

SPEAKER_04 21:48

But but okay, so if something pops off and you're just in the wrong place, wrong time, which could happen. Like you're not actually doing anything, you're walking by and you get caught. Do we even trust that the police are doing a proper investigation?

SPEAKER_01 22:05

Yeah, they do. Well they do. The ones the ones if you go to the if you go to good ones, they do. I'm going again uh the 24th uh to the same place we went last time. It's a gigantic compound and it has like one road in, got uh people they check ID, they check everything before you enter the the area and then you're in. I'm not saying people couldn't sneak in stuff, but for sure. But like there is there is security, there is it is controlled ins and outs. If you're in a taxi, they check the taxi guy. Like I'm and again, maybe it's just for like appearances, yeah, very much so, but um, I've never felt unsafe uh and I've been a lot.

SPEAKER_04 22:46

Yeah, but but but just think about it this way, though. So a resort in Canada, yeah, okay. You're you're you have the exact same mirror place here, just you know, colder and not as fun and more expensive. Exactly. So you have that same thing here. If a gang decided to show up and take over that resort, yeah, you have authorities that you would call that would take care of fucking business. Whereas there, cartel comes in, takes over the resort, and this is hypothetical, clearly. Who are you calling? Because the strongest power is already in control.

SPEAKER_03 23:17

I don't see that happening because I don't doubt for a second there's enough backdoor dealings or the government and the cartel are so yeah interwoven because like this just doesn't this isn't gonna happen because it's bad for everybody.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

My guess is that the resorts pay somebody. So that doesn't happen. I uh like they pay the it's just like they pay the somebody who pays the cartel says, hey, yeah, they're cool, yeah. Get us, we'll take 10% of your business and we won't we'll leave you alone. Uh and we'll make sure everyone knows to leave you alone. I guess that's a good thing. Yeah, I I completely it's like protection. I I I think that I I guess that that's probably what happens down there. I I mean obviously I can't confirm that, but I like I said, I I I get it. Like the we go to Mexico because one, it's like way cheaper than going anywhere else for a full week. You can go for you know as little as like four grand for to all the way to like insane whatever you want to pay. But um it's good food, it's good time. I don't know, like it's hard, everything's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 24:13

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

I've never we've never had a problem there. Um yeah. Sign me up. Done. Again, and sure, I'm like there is some, I guess, risk, I suppose. But anytime you travel anywhere, yeah, like outside of our country, there's gonna be risk. Like I go over to Europe right now, like I think there's probably more or go to New York. Yeah, there's probably more risk being in New York right now. Like it's just there's I'm super hesitant to go south.

SPEAKER_04 24:38

I I love I love going to the US, but I'm so hesitant now. Are you? Yeah, I think certain places, wrong time. But you could be the wrong place, wrong time pulling out of the driveway here. Sure, yeah. Yeah, but are you gonna walk into some sort of big demonstration and uh like you said, New York or wherever you go around the corner and now you're there and you're in this situation that you don't want to be.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

You just need two hats. You need a mega hat and you need a rainbow hat. And then depending upon where you just figure out yeah, you oh, it flips inside out. Reversible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You probably sell those.

SPEAKER_03 25:07

It probably that'd be amazing. This makes me think of a podcast I listened to the other day, uh Gavin De Becker. Yeah, I know the name. CIA Cultural Protection, whatever he did. That thing. But he was talking about how the government kind of the premise that the government would prefer people to be fighting amongst each other, left and right, Democrat, Liberal, Democrat, Conservative, whatever it is, Republican. Um, because he said that means that if the if the people are fighting each other, they're not fighting you. Yeah. And that when they stop fighting each other, you should be very, very worried. It's also distraction. Totally. So and that's the thing. They're like, these protests, these riots. I'm sure the government loves well.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

We know that's true. We know that they've always seeded, they've they seed that uh controversy and whatever it is.

SPEAKER_04 25:57

Weird. All these bricks just showed up on the street. Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Weird. Oh, we were gonna there's not even a brick street or building in the vicinity piled.

SPEAKER_03 26:07

There's pellets of brick group of bricks with signs saying, you know, please don't throw me. No, the opposite, please don't take whatever you do, do not throw this through the business. Dot dot dot. That would be terrible.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

We but we yeah, we know that's true. We know, I mean, that that's insane, right? But like the governments of I think have always done that because again, they're fighting amongst each other, they're not worried about what's happening on the elite level. Um, like so have you I so I don't want to Epstein, the Epstein crap. So I'm so like this this whole thing's a mess. Like, so first of all, they're like everyone knows Epstein, there's an Epstein list, and then all of a sudden Trump's like, yeah, we're gonna get that Epstein list, and then he comes into power and then all of a sudden it's like there is no Epstein list. I think it's there is no list, and Cash Patel. Yeah, the Cash Patel is like, yeah, I don't know what we're talking about, there's no list. And then like after like two months, two months later, all of a sudden there's like a million documents and millions of pages, and and I just am like I'm so confused as to like why they want. I guess, I guess. But like, why say there isn't something when basically everyone knows there was something and then be like, oh yeah, see, yeah, there is a list, but then again, has anyone been charged with anything? Of course not.

SPEAKER_04 27:18

And you know what? Um, if I'm not mistaken, it's the way that it's that each country's handling it, because look at how they're handling it in the UK. People are getting arrested and cancelled and charged because those names are coming out, and I I I don't know the reason why it's so different there than he than in North America, but like there's people who are losing everything because their names are have been released. Whereas in the US, I don't know, is anybody? Like, how can how can I pronounce her name wrong? Gillian or Gillian or Gilligan or Galen? Gillian Zam Maxwell, yeah, Galen. How is somebody in prison for trafficking humans? Yeah, for how did you prove that? Who do they traffic them to? So who are these people? Exactly. And why are they not in jail? Exactly. But they think the people are just, you know, shiny object over here, forget about what what's going on, you know?

SPEAKER_01 28:08

Well, and I mean that's that is exactly what happens because now the Iran war, you're like, or whatever. And like a distraction and legitimate potential issue for like the world.

SPEAKER_03 28:19

Yep. Well, especially there's so much to talk about here. I don't uh I know Trump is saying the Iran war is gonna be over in four weeks. Not a fucking chance.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

Did you did you see those ones I sent you with that with it's like uh his um uh he's a professor in like a university talking about uh the Iran war and like how basically they've been preparing for this for 20 years. The Chinese guy that's basically how they've been he's he's a he's a guy who's uh predicted this would happen, and he predicts he predicted long ago that the US would eventually get in a war with Iran and Iran would win this war. And and maybe Iran would win the war. Yeah, and it's like win is like is in like quotations, like basically meaning meaning it would show that the US is not this dominant force that and that can just walk in and destroy like the shock and awe campaign. Essentially, he said that says that these this the Iranians and not just you know what's funny is when we say the Iranians, it's actually not the Iranians, it's like the Muslims who came, the the Islamic groups that came in and took over Iran and now are Iranians, but the actual Iranians are Persians and like they came they came in. I didn't know any of this, and I started looking into this a bit and actually talking to somebody in our organization, the top of our organization who had knows some history of this, and he was telling me that like because I saw a video that said whenever they came over, they essentially somehow took over the whole government, they then changed the flag, they changed the um the national anthem to be all like Islamic and like and the structure of the government, I think, too, completely everything, and all the people who were from there fled in like the 70s when he did. Uh a lot not all of them, but a lot of them fled because they were getting murdered because they were bah bar what's the religion? Those are the B. Okay. Anyway, Baha'i, Baha'i. And they were getting they were getting killed, and so they were leaving, so they were going through the Turkey border to get out of the country. Um and then they eventually closed that and made it really hard to get through. Anyway, I didn't know any of this stuff. So when we say Iranian people, it's like it's weird because like what are we talking about? Because that's only 50 years, right? So it's interesting. Anyway, um the point is that they they this the government of whoever's in power has been basically planning this, and so there's again, there's two different types of like uh Islamic faith. There's the Shiites and the Sunnis, right? And the Shiites are the I believe was what they are, and they're the ones that are like very religiously like um believe that what they if you're not if you're not believing you if you don't believe what they believe, you are basically they could kill you and that's you're fine with it. Right. Um and then the Sunnis are like a bit more moderate, so like Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Sunni, but they're Sunni, and so that's why I Iran's pissed and is also bombing them. Yeah. He's all they're bombing like also American facilities in those countries, but they don't care if they kill them because they're not a thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

It's so complicated, but essentially what he this guy says is that this country's been preparing for war for 20 years with all of these countries. Um the US military uh apparently they're concerned about running out of bombs. Dude, they're spending a billion dollars a day. Yeah, and they don't have the capacity, they don't have manufacturing capacity to build to build more to like keep up with demand. Whereas like China, if China ever gotten involved in the war, apparently I saw these numbers, I can't remember where it was. They can they can basically manufacture new weapons like so quickly that they could keep up with demand. Whereas America doesn't have manufacturing power, they gave all their manufacturing to other places, so they don't have that structure.

SPEAKER_04 31:48

Did they talk about I haven't watched the the video or whatever? Um did that fella also talk about the fact that if I'm not mistaken, China uh purchases a large amount of their oil from Iran?

SPEAKER_01 32:02

Yeah, there's a whole bunch of weird like interconnectivity there, but which like I don't know if I'm China, like are we just sitting back watching and seeing it?

SPEAKER_03 32:08

Of course you are, like the US is burning so much money. But it's the same as Iraq and Afghanistan. You can't win wars of insurgency, right? When you have like the insurgent population that like short of killing them all.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

Well, and apparently again, this guy, and this is all from this guy he says that like 90% of the people, uh, the Iranians support getting rid of this government, but the 10% have all the weapons and all the power. And the problem is how do you get rid of that specific portion without killing this other portion?

SPEAKER_04 32:38

And and and where is this? Um it's almost like here when you're talking about ideologies, is that well, who's the who's the loud 10 percent? The loud 10% has a bigger voice than the 90% that isn't saying anything.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

Completely. But the other thing is you how do you can't kill an ideology? No, like that's that's the hardest. You're right. That's what you like, you have to kill them all or Yeah, it's a it's a religious war essentially to them, right?

SPEAKER_04 33:02

Willing to die for it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

Of course, and to murder for it and to all the things for it, right? Because and you'll never there's no words you could say to convince them otherwise. Um, because it's not about it's just about like their their God or their idea of God or whole life is that. Yeah, it's like that. And so you can't you uh what was that what quote is like you can't argue someone out of something they didn't argue themselves into something like that?

SPEAKER_03 33:26

You can't like rationalize somebody out of a position they didn't like rationalize themselves.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

And and that's very much what this like when it comes to like when it religious war ideology, it's like you can't, there's no conversation that's gonna fix that because they believe what they believe in, whether you believe it or they just the fact that you don't believe it is enough for them to be like, okay, if you yeah, um it's so complicated. But the scary part is that where does this lead? Like, I don't know. First of all, like you said, how do you end it? I don't know if it's I don't know if you can end it. There's not one person that you can kill that's gonna be like, cool, it's over, let's move on.

SPEAKER_04 33:57

Who's their guy now? It's the guy's son. Yeah, who's so so who's not been seen since the first round of bombings. And his was it his wife or his mom that was also killed? I want to say I don't know. So Trump, I just saw on the ticker this morning that Trump's was is very unhappy with a person. I'm like, unhappy? You should be scared. So you just murdered my wife and my father, totally, yeah. And you think that I'm not gonna be now more upset than my father was? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

You should probably get to killing him real fast. Right, real quick. I'm sure they will. No. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:28

And you're right, the next guy just steps up. It's the same ideology.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

It is so interesting that we we still live in a time where a group of people on the other side of the world is like, you know what, that guy's gonna die now. And then they do it. But that's fucking wild. With a remote control.

SPEAKER_04 34:46

I know.

SPEAKER_03 34:48

He's gonna die now. Beep.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

What's crazy, what's scary about like if this would turn into like a global conflict is the uh technology, technological advances that war has that would would bring. It's all like a drone thing, right? Yeah, like and what do you how do you like you're completely screwed? Nerds in their mom's basement flying drones into buildings. Well, and then you see China's drone shows, yeah. Like we're all done. Like China makes all of our drones too. Yeah, and they're like they do in have you seen those light shows shows? Yeah, the drone shows, and like they can do that, they can program them to attack whatever, send a thousand drones and to attack this one building.

SPEAKER_04 35:26

And you might shoot down half of them. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

Or maybe if you're lucky, you shoot down 90% of them. Yeah, but like what do you do with the ten that get through?

SPEAKER_03 35:33

The interesting thing that is yet to be seen, maybe, is the idea that the US is in possession of such advanced technology that nobody has seen that.

SPEAKER_01 35:42

This direct energy weapon crap.

SPEAKER_03 35:43

Yeah, the sound one, right? The sound one, like the sound one was Russian. You're thinking the Havana syndrome?

SPEAKER_04 35:49

No, no, well, I'm not sure what the weapon was, but they used it when they went into Oh, I didn't remember hearing about that.

SPEAKER_03 35:54

Oh, into Venezuela.

SPEAKER_04 35:55

Venezuela, it's gonna say Guatemala. Um, yeah, where they paralyzed uh all of the security forces and whoever was with Buddy, and then they just killed them all with a sound device.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

Yeah, which I think is crazy. The Havana syndrome thing. I mean, there was just an article, maybe it was on CNN or something like that. Does it make you sick? Yeah, so the Havana syndrome, it's you know, it's a directed energy weapon or something like that, and it gives you like incapacitates people, uh, nausea, headaches, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But apparently the US just bought one of them from a Russian kind of mobster underworld criminal organization for 15 million. So, like to prove that, hey, this does exist. But dude, this was on like, I'm not kidding you, this was on like CNBC or something. Like it was super mainstream media, and they were talking to sources about it. Right. Um, but this Gavin De Becker podcast, he was talking about how the CIA in 1965, and you can look it up online, apparently it's like the size of a dragonfly, but it was like a remote, like camera listening thing in like the 60s. And he was like, imagine how small it is now. And he's like, just think about this for a second. This is what they had in the 60s. You have no idea what like the actual technology these kind of like organizations are in possession of. He's like, think about AI. Don't think for a second that the government wasn't using the AI you're using today 10 years ago. Oh, for sure. Right? So you're like, oh, okay. I still think there's probably some like asymmetrical power there where Iran probably what you see is what they got. Whereas the US is like, yeah, we're spending a lot of money, but at some point, maybe we just have to press the other button.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

See what the scary part is that if they have it, there's no way that China doesn't have it. I think there is a way China doesn't have it. Because China 10 years ago wasn't China today. Sure, but like look at the leaps and bounds, and and you can argue whether or not their technology is as good. I mean, I think they have just okay, I don't know about as good. Uh quality-wise, is kind of what I'm thinking. Uh that's pretty close. I know, right? But I I just feel like I feel like if someone's got some crazy things, it's China. That nobody knows about it.

SPEAKER_03 37:56

Yeah, think about China. I don't know. Let's say 20 years ago. China 20 years ago was still kind of like, for lack of better terms, the Orient. Wow, I don't think you can say that anymore. Right? Like it was like uh a bunch of really hardworking people that make all of our stuff overseas and we shouldn't really be concerned about them. And then now we're gonna have to do that.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

That's how we thought about it forever. Right? Yeah, but that doesn't mean it was correct. That just means perception. That's what they wanted, I think. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 38:21

I'm sure like if you take the rate of technological advancement and you presume dragonfly listening device from the 60s in in the US to now, regardless of how advanced China has been able to like how much they've been able to advance the last 20 years, it's not going to be the same level.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

I also think there's a possibility that uh the US has been very good with showing the perception of they are this huge power and they have all of these cool things. And like I'm not saying that they aren't some of that, but there's a potential that they're really good at just displaying this, like, look at us, and they really don't have as much to back it as we think.

SPEAKER_03 39:04

There's also the potential of that. There's also the fact that the US is the only empire left in the world and has something like 700 plus military bases around the US. Yeah, China has one. And it's here. Is it here in Canada?

SPEAKER_04 39:20

They have secret police services here that we that are enforcing law on Chinese citizens who live in Canada, and we're just okay with this. I but it's probably here.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

It's probably here. But the collapse, the on the west side. The collapse of the American Empire is probably imminent. Yeah, I don't know what that looks like. Is that probably not good? Uh it's bad for us. It's not a bad thing for the world because world the world empires always collapse and change and upgrade and whatever. Yeah, but not not nicely. It doesn't happen. It's not good for us, it doesn't happen quietly.

SPEAKER_04 39:50

It's never mutual.

SPEAKER_03 39:52

But keep in mind, it's also whoever wins this power, like for for us as like a country of Canada, it's gonna be like, hi, we're here, you're now ours. And then we're gonna be like, oh, okay, fuck. We didn't really plan for that. Yeah, we have our one plane and eight soldiers to fight back. You know what's funny though? I did see the ad yesterday for Canadian Armed Forces, and it was like we're back to being like legit. I know, right? It was like dudes roping out of helicopters and guns.

SPEAKER_04 40:18

Jerry Bruckenheimer's producing the commercial.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

Like, oh, fellas, you're a bit late.

SPEAKER_04 40:24

Oh, yeah. And where like all this money we're gonna dump into our military, when's that happening? And not to mention how you're recruiting people uh bring them from other countries.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Did you not see that? The Canadian government said they're going to uh give citizenship or uh speed citizenship for um That's a horrible for people who have training in the military, I believe. I can't remember how it was worded, but essentially the that's the liberal government's looking to like bring in immigrant uh people who I mean it's not a great idea, but the US has done that before with their military.

SPEAKER_03 40:54

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 40:55

You know, if you're Israeli special forces, yeah, we want you. Yes, we want you. Can you please build bombs? But if you're Nigerian backyard, you know, war criminal, we don't want you.

SPEAKER_03 41:06

We might want you. We might need you when we get invaded by China.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

We have no control. It's a long way to go. We have no control. Like you said, tomorrow all of a sudden China could roll in here. Carney's like, yeah, come on in. And China rolls in, and we're like, okay, guess we're sound like my parents.

SPEAKER_03 41:20

Guess we're communists now. Well, you don't sound like my parents because you're not saying Trump, but it's not Carney, it's not like he makes all the decisions. No, sure. There's no veto there. Yeah. Like you said, like Carney could just be like, come on in. Like, do you have a fuck Carney sticker on the back of your card? I should.

SPEAKER_01 41:36

Do you not? I want more of my money. Yeah, no kidding. I just want more of my money. Can I not work 40% of the time for the government? Till May. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 41:48

Isn't it brutal? And then come like June, you're like, oh, this is what a 70% check looks like.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

Yeah. It's like, wow. After you pay CPP2 and CPP3 and whatever else. C P five.

SPEAKER_04 42:00

I plugged in my numbers. I haven't done my taxes yet, but I just plugged in my numbers, and it's like, and I don't, it's never happened before in 23 years, so I don't think that the search was accurate, but it's like you've paid 30% less taxes that you need to, so you're gonna need to pay more. I'm like, well, it's never happened. How would that happen now? Well, maybe they could I have one employer, so yeah, it's weird.

SPEAKER_05 42:20

And it's never so I'm sure the math board I'm sure hope it's wrong.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

Maybe they messed it up.

SPEAKER_04 42:26

I know I paid this much. You know, I I paid more, I paid more than you divvied out to people who don't have jobs.

SPEAKER_03 42:32

So it just makes me so angry. That's why you're paying so much. Oh, it's you have to fund the people that don't want to work. Oh my god. You're gonna be paying for their universal basic income here real soon.

SPEAKER_04 42:42

And then the and then the individuals just uh you shake my head that they're like, no, these people need your money, but they're we've all seen that I don't mean the severe cases, just like this the the TISM spectrum we were talking about. Like if you can't work because like you got no legs or you're functioning at a 10-year-old capacity, yeah. But we all know people who we may have run into a time or two or 30 over our time doing whatever we do, and you're like, this guy's on H. Like, why are you on H? Like you're with you're with it enough to break into eight grades last night. I'm sure you could get a fucking job, but no, you're gonna, I'm gonna give you my money. Like, what I don't understand, but where to be screaming?

SPEAKER_03 43:23

To be fair, do you want him making your egg McMuffin? He could sweep, he could sweep up where they make egg muffins, but at least you're doing something. I walked back through a McDonald's the other day. So greasy. I don't, and I'm sure you guys have too. It was so slippery. I had to like duck walk and I'm gonna go. How do you guys not fall?

SPEAKER_04 43:42

It's in the air, man. Imagine their skin when they go home after it's so good. Have you worked in a restaurant? No. Oh, okay. That's what I did as a teenager. I'm like, bro, you leave there and your your your skin smells like whatever you were cooking all day, right? Like that just imagine what the floor and the ceilings would be.

SPEAKER_02 44:00

Sous-Chef.

SPEAKER_05 44:01

I don't think that was a term. I don't think that was a term unless you were working in like a Michelin star restaurant. Were you the dishwasher? That's where you start. Dips the fries.

SPEAKER_04 44:10

That's where you start. Yeah, yeah. But you know, I I just I can't. I again how do you make change? You don't. I don't know. So just keep taking my money and take more because you know what? I'm not gonna go out and cause violence because I want 15% of my check back, you know? I'm thinking about now.

SPEAKER_03 44:29

Fifteen percent. Talk about the 38%.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

Yeah, I don't know. And that's the problem I think most people have is just the apathy with it. It's like, okay, like I can't do it, I can't do anything about it. I'm not willing to go to those lengths as most people aren't. Well, because if you go to those lengths, nothing's gonna happen anyways. And you're gonna be in jail for 10 days.

SPEAKER_05 44:50

For 10 days.

SPEAKER_01 44:51

But that's the problem. It's like so then it just becomes like, well, guess I'll just keep plugging away.

SPEAKER_04 44:56

But this is where this is what we're at. Isn't that frustrating that that's where we're at in our country? That it the my I believe the majority of people think I can't do anything about it anyway.

SPEAKER_01 45:06

So it is what it is. Do you not think that that's just been human history? Like I regardless of the time, do you not just think that most people are outside of the castle walls, bro? Yeah. The peasants are just like they just live day to day and they do the thing and they try to find some joy and meaning in their lives, and next thing you know, you're gone.

SPEAKER_04 45:23

Where would we be if we were in like the times of the Roman Empire? What what what level of We'd be just outside the castle walls?

SPEAKER_03 45:30

No, we wouldn't. No, that's not true at all. We'd be so far away from the castle. Am I fucking kidding? We'd be killing the we'd be like you'd be like the guy that has to ride his donkey cart like three days to get to the city. Like a rickshaw? Yeah, but you'd have to like camp overnight on the trail because that's how far away from the castle walls we are. And we would collect twigs to have a fire to be warm enough at night. The mayor of your village of like 21 people. You're the mayor of Barnwell, Alberta. The Reeve. You know what? You know what it is interesting? I wish I could see the gangster shit that like the people in your family did before you to stay alive, though.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Yeah, it'd be interesting because like everybody who's here, somebody in their past and their history and their genealogy has done some bad things.

SPEAKER_03 46:20

Like you can't say you you don't think for a second there's gotta be a chance. Like out of the three of us, one of our like great grandparents stabbed a motherfucker with a sword a couple times.

SPEAKER_05 46:31

A couple times, right? Oh yeah, or like for us to get here. Yeah, for us to get here.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

It was like I wanted that is actually a super that man, that'd be a cool like movie or book, like where somehow you could go and like go back and see your ancestors, like maybe one generation and then another generation and another generation.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

Yeah, like like like uh gangster, like Matt's great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather in like 1100 just fucking like yeah, but but for sure, like you had if survival is it meant probably killing people for y'all who can't see that.

SPEAKER_01 47:04

CJ was just stabbing a guy who was on the ground with a sword. Or I think a pitchfork, more likely.

SPEAKER_03 47:10

That would be so cool to see what shit your ancestors did, right? Like like the 900s, like the 500s, like what were they doing? Like just huddled up along a fire, just like staying trying to get into the cabin in their mammoth robe.

SPEAKER_04 47:25

900 years ago there was no mammoth. They're bringing those back though. Yeah, that's what I hear. I've heard people say that when's that scary stuff?

SPEAKER_03 47:34

CRISPR. So you're you so you come from a line of people that could like do some stuff and today or just did it out of necessity.

SPEAKER_01 47:42

I think it was just out of necessity, it was done. Like, I don't know if again, I think morality gets involved now really easily when we look back at that. But what conditions were they did they have a choice? Like they might have not had a choice, like, hey, you're conscripted, okay, go to this war and now you're murdering people, but they survived because that we're here.

SPEAKER_04 48:03

Yeah, and it wasn't a choice. And I would imagine, at least the way they speak about it, even just go back to like World War One and World War II, people were proud to go and do that, right? To go and die for that now. Like you might get eight people who would go.

SPEAKER_01 48:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:18

But just think about that. And it it all goes back to like you said, if if one of the countries that actually has a military of more than eight people wanted to take over Canada, they could. We're we're fooling ourselves that we think that uh the the country to the south wanted to just march up and take us. There is zero we would be able to do we zero.

SPEAKER_03 48:36

We are less positioned to by such a large margin than say Iran. Oh, for sure. This hypothetical free first world country, and we literally would be occupied in like an but the only reason that we're not is because of the United States being our border.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

Because they they wouldn't let that happen because they're like we have a gigantic border that we have but cannot control if we allow Canada to get taken over by whoever. Yeah. So that and like it's crazy that we think that we're independent of them when it's like the the their strength is the reason why we have what we have in a lot of ways.

SPEAKER_04 49:10

Like but but but when the when the orange man says I I think it's just all more I don't think he's flexing, I think he's just giving us a wake-up call, and I'm a little frustrated with how we as a nation deal with it. But when he says things like, Well, we could just, you know, 51st state, I love Canada, all this kind of stuff, like you know, if we wanted to take you, we would, all that kind of he's not posturing, he's telling the truth. And I think that we get our we get our backs up against the wall and get all huffy puffy about it. Well, how about we just actually look at the facts? He's not wrong, yeah, he's absolutely not wrong. And they people get upset and they want to push back and oh, all that nonsense, all the you know, the sound clips about elbows up and all that. You're not gonna do a thing, like there's nobody who's gonna be able to do anything. And I I don't like the idea of how we've been do backdoor dealing other countries because don't get me wrong, we have to worry about our trade and we have to worry about money and we have to worry about our economy. But I don't know about you, but if if you have this big power holding over you, don't you kind of have to kiss the ring to make sure that our country survives? It's not the worst idea. Yeah. Instead of should should we be poking the bear as a country? I don't think we should, because there's no cage on that. The bear's not in a cage. The bear can just come.

SPEAKER_03 50:30

I just love that we are what is it, the second most resource-rich country in the world or something like that? We're broke as fuck. And we're broke as fuck. We have no ability to sell our goods internationally. Like, obviously, we do, but like it should be so much better. Yeah, and I I and I do I love the elbows up, like elbows up. We're Canadian. What does that even mean? I know.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Like, what am I what does that allow me to do with my elbows in the air? Prison rules, prison rules. Anything with my elbows in the air. My turtle. Yeah, there you go. I can cover my head. That is the only thing functioning.

SPEAKER_05 51:00

The mats were hard on your elbows the other day, hey. Look at them. Holy, you should see my knees. It's just skin.

SPEAKER_03 51:06

Oh sure, that's from that. Yeah, it's my first day doing jujitsu. But seriously, we are we are a country of bitches.

SPEAKER_04 51:14

But the people who are the loudest, like you got like 65-year-old guy and his gal at Tim Hortons talking about elbows up, we love carnium. Like, you're not doing a thing. You're barely making it to your car without blowing your hip out. Like, what you're not doing anything. And these are the people who are the elbows up people. It should be the young 20-year-olds who are you know in the gym and working a labor job. They're the ones who should be elbows up, but they're like, nah, we want to be the 51st.

SPEAKER_03 51:41

Because we tax the shit out of them and tell them that because they're straight white males, they're fucking pieces of shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 51:47

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:48

Um, we are lacking some national pride and identity. And it because I I've thought about this a lot of there's the people going around right now sign the Alberta separation petition or whatever. Yeah. Um, and I've just thought about this a lot like you get that feeling of nostalgia for Canada 20 years ago, you know, like the Canada that we were like, that was like that was the good times. Yeah. We need that back. Yeah. But the way to get that back is not by saying if you're not one of these nine identifiable minorities, you're a piece of shit, and hey, all the money you make is actually our money. Your voice doesn't matter. Your voice doesn't matter. Your land is our land. Your land is our land. You don't just you can't be trusted with guns. Um, that's not that's not the way to do any of that. No, right? Like it's like a child, presumably. I don't know a lot about raising children, but I think you need to give them the absolute maximum amount of freedom you can give them in that given circumstance so they can learn to grow into that. Right? It's no different than people, I think. Responsibility. Totally. Yeah. But we live in this fucking nanny state. Um like we're getting regulated to death, we're getting legislated to death. It's like, and I've told the story in this podcast before when I sold a truck to a guy in Montana, I don't know, 10 years ago now, probably, and he came up and bought it. Okay. That was maybe not quite that long ago, but anyways, he came up and bought it, and we're driving around, test driving the truck, and he's like looking around, he's like, What's with all the signs on the road? And I was like, I know, dude. He's like, You guys have fucking like, ooh, right turn here, speed limit here, dividing lane here. And I'm like, Yeah, because they don't trust us. They think we're we're they think we're idiots.

SPEAKER_04 53:16

But have you driven lately? We are.

SPEAKER_03 53:18

But we are, but like we're at we're at the fucking point now. I don't know if you've seen these signs in Lethbridge, um, in the city we hypothetically live in, I guess. Um cat's out of the bank, you're fine. Have you seen the speed signs where they like they're like the speed radar signs, they tell you how fast slow down too fast. But they give you the smiley face and then a fucking frowny face. What the fuck? Yeah, slow down. Just let me drive.

SPEAKER_01 53:42

So, but the question is, uh, sure, I'm with you, but do they work? Okay. How about this?

SPEAKER_03 53:47

I was thinking about this the other day, driving through a residential neighborhood, and then it's flashing, and then I'm looking at it and it's smiling at me, and I'm like, oh, you know what I'm not looking at is the cars or the kids could run out in between.

SPEAKER_04 53:57

It's fine, the majority of the people are looking at their phone. You're you're okay.

SPEAKER_03 54:01

True.

SPEAKER_04 54:04

Yeah. Like we are just being fucking nannyed to death. Well, well, well, the people, so so speaking of white cis males.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Well, what is a cis male? It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_04 54:18

If you think about who should have the loudest voice and who we are already the people who get the least amount of praise. So who's building who's building our roads, our buildings, our infrastructure, who's doing all that? You've answered your own question. Workers. Yep, but it's the predominantly white, cis, um conservative males who are building everything in this country. Everything in this country. Or or um immigrants who want to work hard.

SPEAKER_03 54:49

Yeah, I think it's like the majority of your population. I mean, the argument being is none of us care. We want to live in a meritocracy. Yes. Because like at the end of the day, nobody gives a fuck what you look like. We care about your marriage or how you what you think or any like your beliefs. Um so it's just as di it is so unproductive to prop up one group and malign the other group. Because like that's the thing. I would like our government to say, we don't give a fuck what you look like. Are you good at your job? Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 55:16

That's all I care about. Yeah. I don't care what job you're doing. If you're at McDonald's, like you're already flipping burgers, or if you're, you know, coming as a firefighter to save my burning basement. But like But I just want you to be good at your job.

SPEAKER_03 55:28

I don't care what your job is. Totally. But you have universities in Canada right now. I just saw one yesterday, posting job postings for professor of advanced engineering. And the only people that this posting will consider is uh minority groups, uh, what is it, the BIPOC, whatever. What what?

SPEAKER_04 55:48

Yeah, what was what was the equal opportunity? What was the term, the the acronym? DE DEI? Oh, yeah, like diversity, equity, inclusion. Yeah, yeah. Which weird didn't work.

SPEAKER_01 55:58

Well, the but people are still doing the question.

SPEAKER_03 56:00

Oh, it's still going. I mean, all the major like um money has moved out of the DEI, but government will leave it.

SPEAKER_04 56:07

If you show up and you're green from Mars, but you score best and you're the guy I should take for this job. I'm I I should be taking that person. It should not matter about anything else. No, just marriage as an employer. And it's only as far as I understand, the DEI is only for like if you're a mom and pop business, okay, you have like 20 employees, you don't give a shit about DEI. You want the best person for the job. But it's funny how these businesses grow and become huge conglomerates and now it's DEI.

SPEAKER_03 56:33

Yeah, because they're worried about I I mean, I I am curious about that because I guess maybe it's the executive of these businesses that are worried about the blowback from their employers or their excuse me, their employees or the public, right? It's like it's this battle of virtue and perception. Are we perceived to be this virtuous company that is, you know, in line with whatever the most virtuous thing we can do right now, which is being so concerned about diversity, equity, inclusion? But anyways, long way is just saying like we've lost any sense of national pride in lieu of like we're so concerned about highlighting the differences between people, and it does result truly in like the straight white male getting fucking stepped on right now, um, generally. And I I know that's not like entirely black and white, but what what like can we not just be like proud to be Canadian and also like be good at it? And work hard, right?

SPEAKER_04 57:21

We we could, we're just not, but it's harder to do that, right? It's much easier to criticize people who aren't like you or don't have the same ideas as you, and you wanna you want an easier ride, so it's much easier to criticize that person because that person is making you look bad.

SPEAKER_01 57:40

But that's hilarious it's hilarious because that's literally what we fought for so long to avoid was to to judge somebody based on an appearance or an ideology where it's like, I don't care what you think or believe or look like as long as you fill this role that I need you to fill in person, yeah. Exactly. But like now it's like it's come the other direction where the other side is now saying, Yeah, but you don't look this certain way, so we're not gonna hire you. So from the university perspective, you you don't match our the what we need to fill a quota for this specific you don't you don't have dark enough skin or whatever the thing is, you so you we cannot we won't hire you, we won't even look at you.

SPEAKER_04 58:18

But can't you only get away with that if the person that you're pointing at and saying those things to is the majority? Because you could never get away with that if the person you were pointing to and talking to about like that was the minority. You could never get away with that.

SPEAKER_03 58:30

Like if you said we're only hiring white people for this professor job, you can never get away with that. Well, and we're and and like there is good reason for that, but the pendulum just swung through like where it should be to the other side. Yeah, yeah, right? Instead of stopping the middle being like, we are an enlightened people that have moved beyond the things of a hundred plus years ago and realize that based on the melanin in our skin does not dictate your language, the noise you make with your mouth to communicate. Noises are not so important as your actual competence and outputting the things we need you to output. But the pendulum just fucking kept going. And we're fucked. How do we get it back? You cut the string?

SPEAKER_01 59:07

The problem the problem is the pendulum goes that that the pendulum does what the pendulum does, unfortunately, and it comes back the other direction, and again, it doesn't stop in the middle unless something rams against something, it's gonna keep going, it's gonna go the other way, which also isn't good. But like that's where that's where you see the violence in protest, and you see the people who are fed up and they're the those the white dudes with the guns to say, you know, this is I'm done with this, and it swings too hard the other way, and now violence occurs on the other spectrum, which enforces the ideas of the other side that these guys are garbage and they're terrible people and blah blah blah. This is why it just never stops. But this is the pendulum for us.

SPEAKER_03 59:48

If I was to predict what Canada looks like when the pendulum swings back, it's not good for anybody, obviously, but it looks like South Africa is what it looks like for us.

SPEAKER_04 59:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 59:58

Like I think that's probably where Canada looks like in 30 years is like we're still going, but it's not good.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:04

No, it's not pretty. It's not what we're doing. But again, the the country where if we had developed our natural resources, we should be like Saudi Arabia where nobody pays taxes. Yeah. Because we have so much money that our government systems, like our hospitals, our education, everything's top tier, and nobody, a citizen does not need to pay taxes because the government's making so much money off of all of our natural resources.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:23

But things like so Saudi, I don't know a lot about Saudi Arabia. No immigration, as far as I like permanent immigration. I no visas to work, that's it. So no permanent immigration. If you spit on the sidewalk, doing jail, you're going to jump. Touch tongue off, right? But everybody buys into that because they're like, oh, this life is good. Um about everybody. Well, I think most people. I I have not heard a lot of people that say like the UAE or Dubai or Saudi or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:48

Yeah, but but are we hearing from the average the average the average person, not the normal person? There you go. Are we hearing from the average person who like isn't living in the high-rise and driving the Ferraris?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:58

Or are we listening to But I'd be curious what the base level of economic affluence is in those places. I'd be curious too. Here, like people still make uh I don't know what is it, 40 grand a year, 30 grand a year?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:10

Like that's your like average minimum or the government will pay you that to do nothing in Canada.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:16

Really?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:17

Yes, absolutely. If you factor in the government benefits for uh child tax credits, um I don't know if it's a or whatever it might be, uh government assistance, you can make more on those programs than you can making minimum wage. So what is again this is of course something that you know the biggest podcast in the world, uh Joe, my buddy, talks about all the time, is that what is the if you had the the average person, not the normal person, the average person, okay? If you had the option to either work for minimum wage, right? Whatever job, doesn't matter, job X, doesn't matter what it is, or you could do no work and get paid the same, would the average person take working or not?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:04

Oh, that's a good question.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:05

Right? And so so that's that that's the argument against universal basic income. Is that what is the encouragement then for people to do more and do better? If you can make the same as Joe Blow doing nothing.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:17

I think the incentive doing your job making the same is satisfaction, trajectory, incentive, progression, improvement. But that's what human beings want to do. We want to get it. But do we? But do we anymore? I think most of us, like anybody listening to this podcast, probably does want to be better. Whatever the thing we're doing. I would hope so. Yeah, for sure. There's people that are gonna sit there on UBI and be like, I don't give a fuck. I'm just gonna scroll on TikTok all day. Yes. Okay. But there's also the dude who is like, hey, I'm gonna go work my minimum wage job at McDonald's, slip sliding on this floor, but like in a month's time, I'm gonna run this place. In a year's time, I'm gonna be the frickin' store manager, whatever, whatever. Yeah, that's some ambition.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:01

But isn't that kind of where we're at? So uh when I just use like the recent talk within the Alberta government, right, about uh evaluating and pausing if they need to um uh Alberta government supports for different programs to try and save money. So the uh the way I understand it is that they'll evaluate certain individuals who are showing red flags for abusing the system and uh to see where we're wasting money. You know, the cloud the the the Elon Musk's job that Trump hired him for and then everybody hated him for it. How could we be upset as taxpaying citizens? Right, we pay taxes. How could anybody be upset that the govern a government of any country is looking at waste and who's abusing it? They are, and I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:53

I don't I don't think Minnesota about this. Like the Minnesota garbage with the um what are the Somalian daycares that there's no kids at suitcases filled with millions of dollars going back to Nigeria? Yeah, like this isn't unusual. How and I I agree with you, I I don't understand the lack of up uproar and rage about that when it's like I'm giving the X amount of my paycheck to the government, you're giving millions, hundreds of millions of dollars to these uh autistic centers is another one. It was like he cares in autistic centers where there's literally nobody, has never been somebody pulls up in a Maserati and there's nobody there, and like and and no one's freaking out about it, and it's it's basically getting shoved under the rug at even after I think uh that Nick Shirley got in California now, but like he's doing something with voter fraud, but he exposed all this stuff, and like where is the action that should come from exposing hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars? It's theft. It is. Um, somebody who's uh there's a CNN panel talking about oh, how much money Trump's spending uh for this war, and someone who's like, Well, it's still less money than waste that's gone to the Minnesota government for like taxpayers, like it's pretty funny, but it it's and again, I don't understand people who are just like, yeah, whatever. Or like, or they they're upset that they're it's being exposed. Like that's the part that blows my mind. Yeah, how like that's that's kind of stuff is what sh would should cause or could cause a upright, like a protest, like a violent thing happening because you're like a billion dollars has gone from our our our state. Yeah, that could go to services that are actually required to people who don't want to be American, like that you know that's the other part is like they're going to people who are like outside immigrant immigration who the they're sending money away, they don't care about the place that they're in, they're trying to make it better. It's not like they collect a hundred million dollars and actually did a good job and and and are raising children to be awesome. Yeah, no, they're literally taking it like to benefit themselves and the people back in their own country. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:56

I I love the videos from some of these daycare fucking Think so. And one of it was like three. I I don't know if it was here or if it was in the States, but it was like three dudes uh training in early childhood education, which is weird.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:12

There's a red, there's red flags right there.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:14

Three middle-aged dudes that have like clearly had a rough upbringing, and you look at them and you're like, not a fucking chance. Yeah, my kid's not going there. Dropping my child off at the end. Not a fucking chance. Are you ever actually going to work in a daycare doing early childhood education? Like, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:31

Why do you want to do that job as that male?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:33

Yeah. Well, some people do, but like those guys. Yeah. Oh, dude. It was so bad. So many red flags. You're like, we all know this is just play acting. What is this? Is it kayfabe? Is that the term?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:44

Like, it's just like but this is where that polarization of like it everything's everything is like, well, which side is this a left thing or a right thing? Whereas like that shouldn't, that shouldn't be a polarizing like government, like hundreds of millions of dollars of government waste to something that doesn't even exist. How is that a political at all? It should be every single human who pays taxes should be pissed about that, and something should be done to stop it.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:08

Why is it any different than you have money on a table that's your money? Right. You paid that money. Right. And somebody comes into your house as a guest, right? Whatever it might be, refugee, like we're just using my analogy here, and they take your money and then they leave. You're gonna take that money. Are you gonna be upset? Yes. You should be upset, it's your money. Yes. But the taxpayer is like, nah, it's fine. It's only hundreds of millions of dollars.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:33

And like, eh, it's fine. I think it's because people are so used to paying tax that and so used to like getting a percentage of their check that they earn that it's just kind of it's viewed as gone. It's viewed as like it's not mine, it's gone. And because it is hard to attach like this idea of that's my money to it because it's never it's gone. It's taken from me. It's never been your it's taken from me the second, I don't even get it in my bank account, it's already gone.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:56

If you got it in your bank account and then it came out, it's true. That'd be very nice. You would see a lot of people like you get the lump gross paycheck in your bank account, and then you see that in the government of Canada, Province of Roberta, direct payment.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:09

Even worse, even worse, you have every two weeks. Like they give you the full check and say, Okay, by the way, you owe us two thousand three hundred and two dollars. And you're like, Imagine what? And so then you have to e-transfer them that money. There would be some more ownership about like, oh, that is my money that you are taking.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:24

Or you're a business owner and you wait till tax time and you're like, you owe us fifty thousand dollars. And you're like, oh my god, I didn't save that money. That happens all the time. That happens all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:36

My wife's an accountant, and she's like, There's guys who like make a ton of money, but all of a sudden they're idiots and don't save anything. Not a penny. And all of a sudden, it's like, hey, you actually owe us$200,000 in taxes, and they're like, What? I gotta claim bankruptcy now.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:47

Yeah, uh yeah. Did you look up the economic kind of average meaning uh in Alberta?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:53

It's like 65 to 70,000. That's pretty good. That's very good. But what's what's the UAE? Oh, I didn't look that up.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:59

So I can I can speak to that. So I spent three weeks in the UAE and uh traveled around, went to all the different states there, um, and spoke to many locals who were traveling with us about how it works because you drive around and like you were saying, there's there's not a cigarette butt on the ground, right? Everybody is dressed nice. There's no jalopy cars driving around. How old am I? Who uses the word jalopy anywhere? You know what I mean? Like it's beautiful. And we spoke about, well, maybe you don't see the other side. No, there isn't another side. So they do have universal basic income. You are provided with a house. Um, you're provided with free education. If you want to get a normal job just picking up garbage or working in a garbage truck, you can do that. If you want to go and be a doctor, you can do that, or lawyer, you can do that. It's all paid for, 100% paid for. The only caveat is that every person, male and female, must do two years military service. I like that. I agree, because you're you're you're earning what the government is going to give you.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:01

Right? It doesn't matter because because the fee it was a female and she was probably 25 years old, and she'd already done her time, and then she was working as a uh I don't know if she was still military or if she was police there. They they're provided everything and every opportunity. But they understand they love the government there because the government provides them with everything they need, and there's no lesser there, right? They're more severe with crime and or with punishments for crimes and things like that. But there's a reason why their country is beautiful and has unlimited wealth.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:34

It's because they're smart about how they do it and they hold their city every citizen, they hold them to a standard that they expect that they care as much about their country as the people running the country do.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:47

We do we do we're so far from that here. But think about it. I I just saw a commercial last night. I was watching Sportsnet Ontario, so you get all the Ontario commercials. The government commercial for Ontario and what they're doing to stimulate their economy got me jacked. Like, I'm just I'm not kidding. You gotta check this commercial out. It's 30 seconds, and what they're doing, like why don't we have that in Alberta? Where they're talking about what they actually stipulate everything that they're doing and show wicked videos and everything. I understand it's all production. Let's see it when there's a shovel in there. But at the same time, if they're actually doing those things, that's what we should be doing.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:20

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:21

And actually have people who care about this country and lift it up. It's not the people who are the the squeaky wheels about bullshit that doesn't really matter. It's the ones and uh just going back to you know, you know, the the males who are out there, you know, swinging hammers and digging holes and building us apartments for everybody to live in in this country and the roads that we're driving on, they're busting their asses, but the people who are making the most noise are the people who aren't doing those things.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:48

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:48

Yeah, they're sitting home on TikTok.

unknown 1:11:50

Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:51

Uh UAE numbers are hard to have an hour, as they said, because there's no minimum wage and there's a ton of low so they they're giving the average of 49 to 59,000 US a year, but they said it's super skewed because you'll have people who earn insane amounts of money and people who earn almost nothing because of it's it's uh there's no minimum wage. Yeah, people who are living in the hills and things like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:14

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:16

I'd like to just flick the switch here and see what that's like. Like starting tomorrow, we all agree to be like the UAE. And if you like throw a cigarette butt on the ground to get your hand chopped off, like the first guy who's just like smoking a dart, like and just fuck!

SPEAKER_04 1:12:28

Which hand do you want to keep? Right? No, you don't even get to choose, it's the one you did it with. Oh no, it's your dominant then for sure. Everyone just has smoking with a left.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:37

Brutal.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:37

No, it it it was very interesting there for sure, and just seeing how they live and how they care about their country.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:43

Consequent consequence to crime, like actual consequence, reduces crime. Pretty simple.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:48

Well, have you seen a graph of our rehabilitation?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:52

The experiment we've been working on for 40 years that hasn't worked. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:56

The it was either Argentina or maybe it was Venezuela, like the like the murder rate and then the incarceration rate, and the incarceration rate went up and the murder rate went like inverse.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:07

Weird because the murderers are in jail now.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:08

Yeah, and nobody's getting murdered. Huh? Weird. It's the craziest thing. If you just put people in jail who are bad people who are bad people and then keep them there, bad things stop happening to people. Yeah. It's it's crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:22

We have no experience with this though at all.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:24

No, hey, if you go to jail for 10 days, you're gonna deterrent.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:28

Okay, it's gonna deter you. You go to jail longer for no insurance.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:32

Yes. But you know what? You just go steal your bag of MMs and we'll slap you on the wrist. Yeah. Carry on, sir.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:38

Enjoy your MMs, or not even bother prosecuting because whatever. Yeah. Yeah. We can fix some shit for sure. Yeah. Okay, so we've learned today that we're gonna fix some things.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:49

No, nobody's gonna fix anything. Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:52

We're not noisy enough. We're not violent enough.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:54

We've learned that's not that's not the message that was.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:06

Yeah. You can't have both. Can't have both. You cannot have both. Uh just to reiterate, we are not encouraging violence. No, no, God, no. Did we encourage violence at any point? No, I just want to make sure we're clear.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:17

What are the odds that the next one, the next pod you guys record that? Something this month? Things are popping off worse in Iran.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:27

Zero percent. Uh I'd I'd say I'd say they are the same or worse, is my guess.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:33

I don't want worse. Have you seen the videos of how many drones Iran has? Yeah, and they're just I don't know if I want to see this. Oh, dude, it's like miles of like tunnel, underground tunnel, with just like drones parked.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:42

Ready to go.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:43

Ready to go. You could they could fly like six of them to Canada.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:47

They can go that far?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:48

No, I'm just saying hypothetically, they could fly like six of them to Canada and we'd be like, oh fuck. We don't have anything to shoot these out of the air.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:56

Yeah, whereas like the Iron Dome is just like.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:59

Tink, tink, tink, tink, tink. Oh, I gotta reload because I can only have a fine-round magazine. Tink, tink, tink, tink, tink. Ah, fuck, I gotta reload again. Oh, I'm dead.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:09

Oh, man. All right. One last question. So we're not going to Poland, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:15

Oh, yeah. Is that this year? Yeah, we're not going, right? We're not going. Okay, okay. Damn it.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:19

I watched it on Flow Grappling.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:21

Damn it, Janet. We probably shouldn't go to Poland.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:23

Yeah, let's wait for it to come back to the U.S. I looked at prices too, and I'm like, this is gonna cost$5,000. Uh when's it when's it going back to Vegas? Maybe the year after? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:33

I don't know if they will anymore. Oh, really? Because they were in Vegas for I would say 10 years at least, right? And before that, before they came to the US, so they stayed in the US for that period of time, whatever that was. But before that, they had never been to the US for before. So I think they came in the 90s, maybe. Maybe they'll go to Canada. River Creek Casino. They have an event going to Calgary. If you watch it, ADCC Open is going to Calgary.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:56

Oh, that's cool. In April. Yeah. You should go, you should uh sign up. Dude, I rolled for the first time.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:02

Was it two days ago? Yep. And I have I was so sore yesterday, like I had to like move my whole body to look at things in the morning. Yeah. I've got a bunch of like shoulder issues now. I'm dying. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:15

Old age. Yeah. It's coming for everyone. You can't run from it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:19

You can't. Thanks for having me, Jenny.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:22

Thanks for coming. It was good to see you. Yeah, it was great to see you guys. Now that you're not geographically located in the city, this was a nice bonus.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:28

Yep. Plus, it made us get over here and do one. Yes, we still have a podcast. Thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:35

Thanks for listening. Something. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:42

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