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#86 Forever Young

JB, CJ & Jason Episode 86

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SPEAKER_05

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SPEAKER_00

Everyone feels the same way you do. Alright? What do you do right now?

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah. No, he's 10? 11. He he's the heyday. No, everyone's had the awkward talk with their parents except for me. And I'm like, oh, okay, cool. So we'll sit down and do that. And then it was a big discussion. We brought in some Simpsons references and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05

Did you bring in like uh any visual aids?

SPEAKER_04

Yes, like a bit of a true Simpsons. There was one, we watched an episode of Simpsons the day before, and it was a plane flying and another plane below it, and then you know how they refuel with that thing that extends. They made a sex joke on that, and then K kind of looked at us and we're like, and he's like, he kind of nodded, and we're like, oh, we have to have this talk now. So we used that as our reference point for the the penis and the what was the sex joke?

SPEAKER_01

I'm so curious now.

SPEAKER_04

Oh no, it's just everyone was getting it was a Valentine's Day Homer didn't get lucky, and then he walked outside and he looked up in the air and he saw a plane do that. And he's like, even the planes are getting lucky.

SPEAKER_06

That was about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Nice. But yeah, it was it was super awkward, and I realized I have to have two more of these, and I'm not excited about her.

SPEAKER_05

Uh, do you think it went well?

SPEAKER_04

Do you think we left it open and then he has questions? He can come back. We have a bucket of we have a pint of ice cream and it's in the freezer, and whenever he wants to talk to us, we all get our ice cream out and we sit around and talk about it.

SPEAKER_05

But other than the ice cream, they can't.

SPEAKER_04

No, he can't touch that ice cream no matter what.

SPEAKER_05

Or talk to you. No. With no ice cream? Hey, J shut your mouth, get the ice cream. Get the ice cream.

SPEAKER_01

Dad, I have a question. Other kids out, get out of spoons. Let's do this. No, but he he knew quite a bit. Why ice cream? What grade is he in?

SPEAKER_04

Uh five. I think we started great sex ed in grade four when I was. Yeah, they did. They started sex ed last year, but it was just about the the parts and not how they go together. But I think that like all the kids, all the kids talk about that anyway, right? What? Yeah. But the best part was is that he's like, yeah, then then well, when they love each other, when you guys love each other, you do this. And Kara's like, what? There's lots of different kinds. And what she was trying to indicate was about self love, right? He didn't take it that way. He took as there's many different kinds of sex. And uh and I had to redirect that conversation to the self-love. Um we're not ready for that other stuff yet. But yeah, it was good, it was a necessary milestone, and you you all, well you both, because you've been through it, but you both will have to go.

SPEAKER_03

You know, historically, you I think kids just slept in the corner of the tent while the parents did that. Yeah, and you just do sod.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they did well, they turned around. They turned around. Maybe you waited until they were asleep. No, they probably kicked him out. No, I don't think they're gonna be able to get away out of the cave.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I ground him. Hey, you go stand outside and fend off those saber-toothed tigers. We'll be inside getting busy.

SPEAKER_04

My wife and I had I I approached it as like a biological approach, and the urges and stuff like that stem from evolution and reproducing and all that kind of stuff, and like the need for that. My wife did not go that direction, so it was a real dichotomy of uh explanations. Feels good. Yeah, what? Yeah, she she kind of she kind of followed that route. And I caught I kind of follow like these are normal things, it's an evolution thing. This is like well, it feels good.

SPEAKER_05

Why are we doing it all the time?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Why am I doing it right now?

SPEAKER_04

So the self-loved one. Yeah, that one. I don't know. I thought I heard some noises in the shower the other day too. So I think we're I think I think I think we're at a good I I think we're at a good point to have these conversations now. So man. Oh boy. How many how did you have one round or did you have to do multiple sit-downs or just like sit them all down as a group and be like we're doing the three years apart? That'd be awkward. No, I mean like did like your first or your second.

SPEAKER_05

Um no, not not what are you asking? Yeah, two.

SPEAKER_04

Like for for your boy, is it like, hey, let's sit down and talk about it, and then is there another conversation to follow about further details that he discovers through school and jokes? Like without mom. That's yeah, that's that was a yeah, there's the next talk is without mom, I guess.

SPEAKER_05

Kids find out a lot of things these days, I think, on their own, or because of their stupid friends. Um and it's probably not people that I don't know. Um Yeah, it so there's actually some I think I said talk about this before, there's actually some really good books that um my wife had bought for my daughter back in the day, like just kind of starting like from a biological standpoint initially, and then kind of leading into a bit more of like puberty and then what happens, and then chemicals, and then feelings, and then that leads to then it kind of like gradually builds on that. And they're I think you can get them for like as little as probably grade like four, but then you can get like kind of more graphic, not in a bad way, but like graphic in terms of like actual details uh for uh older kids, and uh she kind of read that sat with her through those, and then he also then went and read those like later on, like a couple years later.

SPEAKER_01

But um good for him, you know, again like the female perspective.

SPEAKER_05

Uh it's not just a female, it's not just the female books.

SPEAKER_04

The books, the books are both. Yeah, the books are both. Oh my god. I thought it was just like it's ladies only. The books go both ways. Oh yeah, good for them.

SPEAKER_05

No, I I think that was a good introduction, and then um I don't know, we kind of talk about it here and there. We haven't like sat down and had a big conversation about it, to be honest.

SPEAKER_04

But you're a little late, you're a little late in the game for that. They probably know this stuff now. I'm just not gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I know I know my wife and my daughter have, uh, but like my son, we haven't really sat down and had a big conversation about it.

SPEAKER_04

It'll have to happen at some point. Like he'll know the stuff. You just gotta put it in context, yeah. Because I'm not looking forward to this conversation with my daughter. I do not want to be involved whatsoever. I want to be Yeah, that look on your face. Yeah, you you want to be in the other room and shake your wife and just handle it.

SPEAKER_01

Cleaning your guns. Going, damn it.

SPEAKER_03

Kidding, I won't have any of the liberals are taking them all.

SPEAKER_04

Wow, that's just right into a shift. They're taking it if you'd let them take it. I lost I lost mine in a boat accident.

SPEAKER_05

It's been uh Yeah, right. It's been interesting with like uh my daughter being 16 now because it's like it's she's uh growing up. So it's just it's like it's weird because we were in we were in Mexico and uh we're there with my wife's whole side of the family, and so there's a nephew who's turning 15, and then we have uh Pablo who's the exchange kid. He's 15, and so the three of them's your second son, yeah. Yeah, so the three of them like just ran around, like they were just did hung out the whole time and just I didn't see them half the day because they were going to like and the boys were trying to like get Snapchats from girls and it was ridiculous. And so then they have these like teen events at night, so they have this really nice uh club that they most the kids can't go in, and but then one night of the week they open it up from nine to eleven and they have like a hip hop party for like teens from 13 to 17, and so they went to that and then they and it's just like it was so it was weird. I struggled with it. Oh man. Because it was like a lot of like I didn't see her a lot on this trip. It was because it was and I mean that was a good thing because it's family and she was hanging out with her cousins, and like that's kind of the was the purpose of it, but uh part of me like I just didn't I didn't like it that much in in that in that way. Um but like I said, I had to kind of like get wrapped my head around it. That's that's kind of why we did this, so that the cousins and the family we we would hang out as like parents by the pool and sitting around and they were the kids were gone.

SPEAKER_01

Like I don't didn't see them until later. That's my struggle right now, is like trying to teach them independence, and then like you're loosening the reins a little bit. Yeah, but then they get it and then they're gone, and you're like, wait. And then, like you just said, Jason, like then that part is gone. Like taking the kids snowboarding, and like they've gotten really, really good in this year. Uh, and then my little guy was like, No, Dad, like I can go up on the trail by myself. I'm like, no, you can't, and then he did, like got up by himself, like came down and run all by himself, and I was just standing there, like, fuck, you don't even need me anymore. Just crying, just crying in the bottom of the hill. It was honestly tough. I was like, oh frick, like this phase is gone now.

SPEAKER_05

I I've been struggling a little bit thinking about this because like like I find that it's very much that way, like it's it's like they don't really need you, and then you're like and that's fine, it's good, because obviously that's what you want to to do for your kids. They don't need you, they can survive and function, but then it's like, but I want to be here, like I want you to want to be here, or and like it's a weird thing, dude. I I was actually this trip was kind of hard for me in that in that way. Um and then thinking about it like like down in the next couple of years, I think I'm gonna be a mess. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, you're gonna have to find something else.

SPEAKER_05

Honestly, that's what I was talking to my wife about.

SPEAKER_04

I'm like, so I you have a lot of things, but you're gonna have to find out.

SPEAKER_05

Well, we there's the service put out the nursing home put out the um thing about the pickleball courts that they have scheduled. Like, and I was like, I I'm like, I think we should be 70 years old. Well, dude, I'm like, we gotta I think we should start playing pickleball or something. Like I think because like because they don't like even when we're home, like now, so like even after school, the they usually have stuff, or even if they don't have stuff, they're they're like talking to the friends, they're doing something. Um, and it's just like sometimes we're like, what are we gonna do tonight? Yeah, and then we're already in that we're already I already feel like we're in that position and they're still in the house. Now, fast forward five years and both of my kids are graduated. It's like other than sitting in the house and watching TV, which is not ideal, um, we gotta find some stuff to do. And like, I think if we what do we like, we gotta what do you want to do? Like, why don't we start picking up pickleball? We could be the old people, the young people at the old people pickleball court. Just running the show, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that they have it at the Y, and you can see there's all the old people. Yeah, there's all the old people there, and there's always young couples there as well. And that's it, that's it. It's young couples and really old people playing with that.

SPEAKER_05

I think you gotta find something like that's gonna occupy some time and maybe again like that's find a community that you can kind of like tap into and um because your community is leaving you, because yeah, your kids, yeah, your kids.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's it's so true though.

SPEAKER_05

I know it's and it's like it's coming quick. That's what's scared to me is it's coming quick. Like uh graduating grade 10 this year, that's two more years, and like it's just gonna be it's gonna happen so fast. Yeah, um, she's got her license now, so like that that's been a huge change for us, like the independence that that's given her, but then also us, because then like hey, go get your brother from practice, and then she can go drive and pick him up, and we don't have to do that. It's like it's it's been it's been a lot of change, and like it's crazy how much that actually changed things in the last because she got end of February, so the last month or so. Yeah, and that's been it's been a huge thing. So anyway, this trip was uh it was a it was a good trip. I just it was very it was different because it was 14 people, so that's a lot of people, but also um I just I had a hard time relaxing at the beginning. I don't I I don't know why because they're gonna be and you're worried what they're doing, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that's like what what kid is asking for her Snapchat? You know, that kind of joby did you see any did any boys come up when you were on the beach just to be like, hey boo.

SPEAKER_05

No, and that I think because she was with her two like two boys, like her cousin and and uh and her basically brother, like they she wouldn't really have to deal with that, which is good, but and to be honest, like she's been like there's I've seen nothing that like worries me in that direction uh with her yet, so that's good.

SPEAKER_04

But it's just like it's just like driving though, like I'm not worried about my kids' driving behavior, I'm worried about everybody else on the roads, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05

Like, yeah. Anyway, it's yeah, Mexico's good.

SPEAKER_01

Good thing about when my daughter's that age is my two sons will be absolute goons, like these just fucking mutants that are roaming around behind her and like, yes, good, get through them to get to her.

SPEAKER_05

As long as they have a good relationship and they want to do that. That's what's interesting, right? Like that dynamics of like siblings. Uh you hope that that's the relationship that they have where um you develop somehow you develop that where I think they're ever always gonna be a part of their time when they're fighting and they're not really super get along that well, but you hope that they they go come through that on the other side and then they become like that, yeah. Well, you gotta talk to my sister, you gotta come through me, kind of thing. Totally, right?

SPEAKER_01

They actually do care about each other a little bit in some way, shape, or form.

SPEAKER_03

But ugh. Your s are your uh daughters gonna be crushed when Pablo leaves?

SPEAKER_05

They both are, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's like having another brother at home, eh?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, is he gonna come back?

SPEAKER_05

Uh like no, like I mean to visit maybe. Like he's he's going because he's going to grade 11 as well next year, so like they're and yeah, he'll there'll be no come coming back in terms of like staying here. Um we're probably gonna go to Spain, I don't know, maybe next year for a couple weeks and the visit. Um his actually his parents are actually down in Canada right now. They came, they're staying in Canmore for the next week, and then they're gonna come to Lepage to stay here for a week and like go home. So I'll meet them next week.

SPEAKER_04

But um They get to see Canmore for a week and then come and see our city for a week. Oh, that's very similar and not spare them at all. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, Canada's amazing. What is this? What is this downtown park you have? Is this a garden? A garden of some sort? Is this a movie set? Yeah, what is happening to these people?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it'll be it'll be interesting. I it'll be a tough summer, I think, for my kids just because of uh losing that extra person in the house that they kind of hang out with a lot. So him and uh him and Oliver fight all the time like brothers, it's pretty funny. And then Scarlet and uh him like hang out all the time and just sit and he's such like uh affectionate kid, like he likes to sit, like if Oliver's sitting on the couch, he'll sit like right beside like it's it's like kind of weird, but it's just who he is. He sits right beside him, and they like he just like like needs like it's it's funny. It's yeah, but it'll be it'll be hard.

SPEAKER_01

Red flag?

SPEAKER_05

No, but he does that with literally everybody. Okay, okay. He does that with everybody.

SPEAKER_04

I thought it was like just your daughter. I'm like, well, no, no, that was like my son.

SPEAKER_05

Like he does that, like is that just maybe it's cultural things, something like that. Like they're just no, he just he's just uh I don't know. I'm not sure. He just like uh likes to be he's like you, he just needs like human contact. Probably yeah, yeah. Anyway, yeah, that's what's going on with me. Are they staying with you? No. Uh they they're part of this. There's this um interesting thing online. It's like a house share. Swingers, well, it's like it's literally like a house swap program.

SPEAKER_04

Uh okay.

SPEAKER_05

House swap. And you have to like um you have to apply, they you do a whole bunch of vetting and they come look at the house to make sure that it's suitable for what the thing is. And then you blood work. You're maybe and then you're part of the then you become part of this thing where like you it's a community where you just say, Hey, I'm interested in going to this area. Is anyone on in this program in that area? And then so like the guy that he's coming to stay at the house he's staying at in Lethbridge, uh, the though they're actually in Madrid right now at his house. Oh uh, so they just switch for like a week and then they I mean those are two very similar destinations.

SPEAKER_03

I can see why one would want to go to the other.

SPEAKER_04

It's not a tiered two.

SPEAKER_05

Uh Cadmore, the same thing. Apparently, there's like five, I don't know what kind of place they got, but there's like five bedrooms with like king beds, and like it's pretty gigantic house.

SPEAKER_01

Um I'm interested in your wife. The wife isn't there. Exactly. She's not there, she's at home with the other guy.

SPEAKER_05

No, she's not. They go you're an idiot. It's weird that only the husbands travel, hey? The house swap and wife swap.

SPEAKER_01

There's cameras in all the rooms. Oh feels very Epstein. Well, I mean they're all consenting adults, it's fine. Yeah, so growing up is scary, guys. Ugh.

SPEAKER_04

It's mostly because it's mostly because you can't do anything about it.

SPEAKER_05

I I find it interesting, like being at where we're kind of at R, like well, I guess I'm I'm ahead more than you guys, but like, and then seeing him starting from starting from zero, basically.

SPEAKER_04

Even literally seeing her walk today, and I'm like, huh. Like upright, no, like no balances. Like this is crazy. The baby walk is is gone. The baby walk's hilarious, though, with like the knees bowed out. It's the best, and and that I got this. I got this.

SPEAKER_03

Uh yeah, I'm feeling time march by super fast.

SPEAKER_04

It's gonna be fast, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's wild, like everyone says it's like classic cliche. It's like, wait till you have kids, like wait till you have kids, and then you do have kids, and you're like, holy fuck, like slow down. Like like my whatever 20s till I had kids' 30s, it just seemed like oh, I had so much free time to do whatever, and then like that 10 year span was took 10 years, and now this next 10 years has gone by in the blink of an eye. It's just like holy god.

SPEAKER_04

The worst part about that 10 year span is I didn't accomplish much of it. Exactly, and that is the worst part too.

SPEAKER_01

Like 20 to 30, I did nothing. Right?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, the I can't remember how they explained it, but the idea that like it feels more time feels like it moves faster the older you get, and there's the portion I think it's because of the portion of your life lived, is like you're you're basically you're on the back, not you're kind of on the back nine, not necessarily, but like it's just like you're the percentage of life lived and and that kind of stuff, it changes, and so like when you're a kid, like a week could feel like forever. Yeah, but now all of a sudden, especially the way with uh our we work at and and our and our shift work and stuff, it just feels like it goes by so fast and the month's gone. You're like, what happened?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's it's uh the even this year has been a complete difference than the last five. Yeah, like I think this the shifting is awesome, but like it makes it push so fast, yeah. It gets weird, and I don't know why that is.

SPEAKER_05

I think it's it's I guess because the concept of time is different, like you work longer, but then you're those days off, and then just it's like because you I think we we block things into like work week, not work week, but when it's 50-50, it's like all of a sudden it's like that it's it's skews time in your head a bit.

SPEAKER_03

I was doing some reading about this uh not too long ago, and it was kind of talking about how novelty plays a large part of that. When you're a kid and younger, right? There's a lot of novelty, you get a lot of do a lot of new things, and then as you get older, obviously that goes down. And it was saying if you want time to move slower as an adult, you need to basically create more chapters in the book and do more stuff, like travel more, go do more, experience more, and create like those memory points so time moves slower, which is makes sense, right? Because like obviously we do less and less novelty as we get older. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_04

So I think we're just do like honestly, that makes sense because we're doing less on 12 on, 12 off, yeah. Like through that four-day block. Yeah, that maybe that's why it blows by so fast. Because even on like the Monday to Friday, you can come home and you could do things, you could take you know, like I I think I'm with my family more then than I am now, but my four days off I'm with my family. You know what I said.

SPEAKER_05

Except that now with the kids being like in school, then if you're off on you're off on those days, then you're just you're not with them.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Cause you're still with them the same period of time, like after work till bed, or after school till bed. So that that time doesn't actually change that much unless you're off on the weekends, right?

SPEAKER_03

But well, I think about you know, the first the first year at the nursing home, super full of novelty, and then that goes down. And then I was like, the next five years, I don't really remember those like the the the next five years after that, right? And then obviously a little bit of a career change and some some new novelty, and then that goes away again. Yeah, it's like fuck. There's lots of things that like I think we don't remember.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we get a lot of new novelty too compared to other nursing homes too, which is nice because we're moving in and out and doing things a lot, which is which is good. Good, good, great, yeah, it's great, yeah. Wonderful, grand, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It was weird. I ran into a guy yesterday that I hadn't seen in probably 10, 12 years. Like a gym buddy from you know at the college, he'd be like, You don't really know the guy, but you're like, hey man, like uh and then I ran into him at the park with his kid was there, and I was there with my kid yester at the park yesterday, and I was like, Oh, where do I remember you from? And like trying to like drag back the memories of this guy. I was like, Oh, this is so weird. Like we talked all the time, and I like he then he said his name and I was like, Oh yeah, I remember your name, and then he's like talking, he's like, Yeah, my wife, and then he said his wife's name, and I was like, Oh yeah, like I completely forgot, like I literally forgot they existed. Yeah, yeah, right. It's so weird.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we do that with a lot of people too. Oh yeah, even people at the nursing home who you don't see, you work with somebody for like a year or two, and then they move or you move, and you just don't see them, and it's literally impossible to remember things about them.

SPEAKER_05

I've been trying to be I'm trying I've been trying to be really intentional being back um on the teams where I like go out of my way to remember people's names who I don't interact with, and like that being our other side, other staff and that kind of stuff, where like I'm trying to very intentionally like br like smack it into my brain of names, because like I think we're bad at that in our job. Like, we know the people that we would directly work with, and then some of the other support staff that we have, we don't do well of like even just knowing their basic name, like not even like who they are, what they like, and like getting having a relationship, because that probably is super important too, but just what is your name? Because that's hard sometimes with so much people, but building the winning culture, Shortsy, exactly. Uh dude, uh that's exactly it. So I watched that season of Shoresy and I loved it so much. It's so good, it's so good again.

SPEAKER_02

Like it's so good.

SPEAKER_05

I I I I I don't know if I talked about last time on this, but I'm gonna say it again though. I watched that, started watching Shorty when it first came out, and I was like, eh, I don't know. It's a lot. I thought meh, I and I kind of stopped watching it. Then last I don't know, last month I think I binged the whole thing. So good, and like I I was obsessed with it. I loved it, and it got better. I thought it got better as the seasons went went on. Some people didn't like the later seasons because there was one where there was basically no hockey, it was like off season, it was out during the summer after they won the they won the ship. And so anyway, they but it I thought it was awesome because like Shoresy the kind of like changes throughout, I mean does and doesn't, but becomes a bit more mature and becomes like and you start seeing like different parts of his personality and his character, and it's like it's there's such a good show, so good, and it's so different like than every other sitcom out there or whatever, where it's like, oh dialogue, like there's very little dialogue.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, but it's good tunes and it's like fun.

SPEAKER_05

Such good tunes. Actually, that's what reminded me. I was gonna look up if there's like a soundtrack in Apple of uh Shoresy stuff.

SPEAKER_04

I can't get back like Lettercanny got I got sick of that. I got sick of that too. It's different than like I'm not too sick of it after. No, I think it's better than Lettercanny.

SPEAKER_05

I think so too. I think and I think the seasons got better, whereas Lettercanny for me, the seasons got just more repetitive, and I got tired of it. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I agree. Anyway, um, but yeah, part of that was like he starts um doing other things, but then they realize that like he knows the name of the janitor and he's like knows stuff about his life. Like, hey, how's your wife, Margaret? Or and like, oh, and then they're like chirping each other. Like, so he's still chirping people, but it's like he's chirping like the people who they don't even most people don't know the person is, and so like he's like developed like these like relationships with like all the people that are around his life, right? And you're like, oh, there's some huge value in that that I think that we mistakenly overlook. Totally.

SPEAKER_04

But we're not. No, I know we have the the thought that we're too busy. Boom, boom, boom.

SPEAKER_05

Completely because you'll spend an hour of your of your day, of your work day, talking to somebody that you know really, really well, versus like I don't know, just go the same the same thing, same conversation can be had or developed with somebody else that maybe they don't feel that like that community that we just naturally have in our job, right? Yeah. I don't know. It's been interesting, so I've been trying to like really force like um intentionally do that a bit more at work, but something you gotta do in your uh new role, you know.

SPEAKER_01

It's been interesting.

SPEAKER_05

It's definitely very different.

SPEAKER_01

Make the little people feel like they're important. That's uh even if they're not.

SPEAKER_05

You know when they unlearned. I I but I like it. I mean, I mean I'm only a uh what is this? This would be tonight will be seventh day. So it's we're we're early into this, but like it's that's a very different uh dynamic.

SPEAKER_04

You're not the fun young person anymore. Very much so. It's so weird, right? Yeah. I've never felt that way.

SPEAKER_03

You were the fun young person at some point?

SPEAKER_04

We we used no, we used to be. No, we used to be the fun you you'll yeah. Oh, I guess. Guess what? You're not anymore.

SPEAKER_03

Dude, I feel so out of place. You know, you go back to where all the the real employees are working, and I walk in there and everybody looks at me and I'm like, fuck.

SPEAKER_04

Do you notice the conversational the the the emotion like the conversation shifts a little bit? I feel like the the joking and all that kind of stuff, it does shift when you would come in. Well, that's just because he's handsome. I felt it when I come in, and I felt it when you come visit, you know, the real people when I'm there, and I feel that conversation for other beings shifts when when like you guys would walk in. And I I'm and when I walk in too, I feel the same thing. It's just a different kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03

Well, and I think sometimes the way people interact, like we all like to give it to each other pretty hard, and sometimes a little bit harder than we need to.

SPEAKER_04

The looks that you and I got when we like we were talking, we're just giving it to each other, and the looks that the other people they don't like, are they really fighting? I'm like, what the hell's going on?

SPEAKER_03

What the fuck is that guy? Sometimes there's a little bit of physical violence, and some of the some of the new people are like, what the fuck? And I'm like, this is no this is normal, this is okay. You can't do that.

SPEAKER_05

But what I like about like the influence like that in your position and my position that we have now, just being like kind of around longer, a bit older.

SPEAKER_04

Just say old, that's fine.

SPEAKER_05

Is like we just we have the ability to influence like uh dynamic a little bit or like the team vibe or culture, culture, haircuts. Ooh.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. I iProck the right. A lot of people starting putting it on a colour.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, oh like I'm just saying some of the haircuts are ridiculous. It's time to fix that. Some of them are awesome.

SPEAKER_05

Some of them are great. I don't know. Sit down. Some of them are, but some of them are not. Uh you also, I mean shouldn't be there. I don't know. So also you what hill do you want to die on in some ways? That hill. I want to die on that hill. Haircut hill. Spread my blood all over that hill. Wow.

SPEAKER_02

Uh the haircut hill. Got it.

SPEAKER_05

You look ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01

Just duct tape them to a chair just like the electric razor.

SPEAKER_05

Wow. We have a chair in the back we could use. That's true, dude. We do. Anyway, yeah, it I find that's I I that's the age thing that's like I I know you all feel the same. Like, I don't feel old. Right?

SPEAKER_04

I don't feel like I feel like I'm 23.

SPEAKER_05

I don't feel old, and then but then we're having a conversation with uh one of the guys the other day, and I was like, asked his age again, and he's like, Yeah, 27. I was like, Shut up. That was a long time ago. I was like back when you started. I I no, I didn't. 29 I started. Yeah. So like I wasn't even started yet.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, the same thing. I was talking to somebody the other day, and somebody who I'm actually becoming really good friends with, I think. And we're sitting there talking, like, yeah, you know, you're my age, it's the same kind of thing for us. And he's like, I'm 24. I was like, oh I'm 20. Almost 20 years older than him. Tim and I thought I mentally thought I was the same age.

SPEAKER_03

You know, like when we do stuff like in our mid teenies, like the things you do.

SPEAKER_04

All the cool the the hip kid stuff that I do too, right? You know when you stretch before bed, like all your hip kids do.

SPEAKER_03

You know when you sneeze and your back gets blown out? Yeah. Oh no. You're also getting up four times a night to pee, right?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I like that. But that I I think it's I think it's good. Like, I don't know if I never listened to people. That could two things could be true. I people said this kind of stuff when I was 24 and I just didn't listen. Option one. Or nobody, I wasn't really hearing that, and I kind of just I don't know, didn't I? Also confirmed. Yeah. So so like I hope that those guys, if they listen or they we have these conversations, they really understand that it like sure. You look at you look at us and you're like, oh, do you forty 43? Holy shit, that's old. And you're like, dude, I'm telling you, it feels the same.

SPEAKER_04

No one, no one here is 43. I I am you're 43?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, dude. God, you look good. What's my problem? Oh, right. Great Dane, piece of shit. Your shitty hips. I know.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, at least you're not like 7'4 Wemby. I don't think he's gonna make it to like 35. He's he might not. Yeah, anyway, I just I just really hope that like maybe more of this conversation they really latch on to the like enjoy that time and remember.

SPEAKER_03

I know they won't. Damn it. Youth is wasted on the young.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Some of our young guys are doing like the 10-minute foundation training thing that I find uh a couple guys sent to me for the back, like stabilization muscles in the back. So I've been doing it for a couple months, and now all the young people are doing it on our team too. This little 10-minute exercise. I find that so like little things like that I'm noticing. I'm like, oh, cool. They're they're not mirroring, but they're doing those things because they see how much the old people are struggling with their backs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I find the fitness in general I is a lot more. Oh, it's more present. Yeah, people are a lot more uh active on the teams, it seems like well these mind.

SPEAKER_01

They've won time now to do that, but I think like the last few bouts of new people have been, yeah, kind of that demographic a little bit more.

SPEAKER_04

Besides that one, the chubby glass, but that's fine. The chubby class that couldn't do push-ups.

SPEAKER_01

I remember you can do more push-ups than them. Right, I'm deformed. We had that talk in one of the training days of shirt off. Look at this! Look at me! They were all doing shitty push-ups, and I stopped them and I said, I'm physically deformed, and I can do good push-ups. And I like showed them and I counted them out.

SPEAKER_05

I've been debating uh going back to CrossFit here. You should now that I have time.

SPEAKER_04

Are you still paying the membership?

SPEAKER_05

I haven't paid in forever, but I've debated. I thought you were running on over.

SPEAKER_02

I am. I am come do both.

SPEAKER_04

I can do both. You've got so much free time now to do more things.

SPEAKER_03

I want to pick up pickleball and crossfit.

SPEAKER_04

Just to touch the edge of board pickleball.

SPEAKER_05

I want to debate into all of these four times, four or five times a week.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like that's good a lot. You would be great because your stature and strength that you already have is good.

SPEAKER_04

Like you But I think you want to go wingspan though. Like I feel like you would be in pickleball. The best guy right now.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, it's pickleball we're talking about now. I thought we were at CrossFit. Uh the I was gonna say CrossFit, like the best dude is like five foot two. He's like, yeah. He's not the best dude, but like it right now in the open. He's got less distance to move. In the open, he's he's literally easy. What do they call him? The hamps something hamster?

SPEAKER_01

Pig or something like that?

SPEAKER_05

No, I thought it was a hamster.

SPEAKER_01

The iron hamster. Well, it's because he's like a pig farmer. So I thought something with pig. I thought he's like a muscle. Colton Vertens is his name, if you want to look it up. He's he's tiny. I don't even know if he's tiny.

SPEAKER_03

Do you know that you can do all of the things they do in CrossFit just in the gym? I know. But there's different going for community. I get it. I want to community.

SPEAKER_02

It's fun, man. Iron hog. Iron hogs.

SPEAKER_05

I thought it was a something hamster.

SPEAKER_04

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_03

Iron hamster.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah, he's short.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, he's little, but he's small. There's no way you can do CrossFit and train for your ultra marathon.

SPEAKER_01

Uh I think it's a good thing. I think you don't train for the ultra marathon.

SPEAKER_05

That's the trick. I feel like it would benefit me from uh who finished? This guy. Muscular endurance uh standpoint.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, totally. Like honestly, man, like I didn't train at all. Granted, my time was awful and whatever.

SPEAKER_05

Can I also point out you did 50k? Totally, but I still did it. And I'm trying to do 160k.

SPEAKER_01

Totally. But you would still run. You were way more runner than I am. You just do it. It's fun.

SPEAKER_03

Like maybe if 20% of your training is the CrossFits. Yeah, I know. The other 80% has to be running. Just getting bored of running.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's boring. I wish I didn't care about this thing and I'd pull out of it and not do it. You have you had every opportunity to not put into it to begin with. I know that. And I want to do it because I want to finish it. Clearly, it sounds like it. I do. I want to do it, but I wish I did it. That's not what I'm saying. I wish I didn't want to do it. I'm you're you're sending a lot of mixed messages here.

SPEAKER_04

That makes sense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I wish I didn't do it.

SPEAKER_04

Knowing him, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, 100%. But it's a weird thing. Like, because I wanted to sign up again, and my body was trash after it. Yeah. So, and then Katie yelled at me. She's like, No, you're stupid. Like, you couldn't move for a week. I was like, Yeah, but it was kind of fun. Again, because the community like thing. Yeah. Right? Like, there's people there taking care of you. Old ladies are passing you as you're running. You're like, fuck, I'm better than her. No, you're not. Nope, you're not. No, you're not. She's better than you.

SPEAKER_04

I I went to somebody's house the other day. She had the rocks. So I guess they used to give the rocks for this one if you got the top three. And on the way upper, like uh you get rocks if you finish.

SPEAKER_05

Is it is it finished? Yeah, if you if you finish, you get a rock. I got a lot of rock.

SPEAKER_04

She was top confirmed. But the rocks say that she was top three. They're they're a little older rocks. Oh yeah. But then I was walking up her steps.

SPEAKER_03

Your 50k rock, right?

SPEAKER_04

Sure did. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, you did? Oh.

SPEAKER_04

Do you have your dropped out way before you started? Um on her steps on the way up, there was rocks on each side of the steps. She had eight rocks on four steps on the way up, and then she opens the door, and it was like an 85-year-old tiny woman. And all the years on these things, they're not that.

SPEAKER_05

I think Tony has 14 rocks. Oh my gosh. Yes. You can make a 13 to 14. Rock garden.

SPEAKER_01

All right. Tony is one of my favorite people, but when you watch him do physical fitness things, it's just like, how is that happening? Like the way that dude runs, way faster than me. Better runner, better than like most things. I would say, I can't do that.

SPEAKER_05

But like, and he he's in so much better like uh running shape than me by a lot. And I don't know, like I it's just his his heart, it's his heart. Like when we when we had the whoop bands, yeah, his uh HRV was like skyrocket.

SPEAKER_01

It's just it's like it sits like double mine, but also like not doesn't care about it, like cares about it, but like fucking popping pouches, like oh the i the ice cream, the ice cream gets him too.

SPEAKER_04

Like he's he's just he's a sweet tree guy, right?

SPEAKER_03

I could do ice cream. It's that foundation of cardio that all of us wish we had. Yeah, I should do more, but I well that's the thing.

SPEAKER_05

That's that's the consistency. That's the that's the fact he literally has done the all the lost souls probably 14 times. So he's been doing it for almost 20, probably 20 years. Whereas like I just started doing long distance stuff like two years ago.

SPEAKER_03

I don't I don't know if you've been in the gym in the last couple days. No, but somebody wrote on the board. It was just some random I I love that people put random workouts on the board, but whoever's doing it is a fucking asshole. Because like the one that was on the board.

SPEAKER_04

The buy-in one? Yes. I tried it.

SPEAKER_03

One mile buy-in, yeah, uh, 20 calories on the assault bike, 20 push-ups, 20 sit-ups, 20 squats, 20 burpees for eight rounds, and then a mile buy-out. So I get in, I walked in the gym actually, I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm gonna cat tackle this, right? Get my mile buy-in, first round, 20 calories on the assault bike, 20 push-ups, 20 sit-ups, 20 squats. And I was like, I'm gonna do 10 burpees because this is stupid. And then like round three, I'm like, nah, fuck this, I'm done. When ran my last mile, I was like, I'm out.

SPEAKER_01

It was eight rounds of that side? Yes, it was insane. I'll tell you who that is. It's Terry.

SPEAKER_03

Dude, I was like, no, I'm not doing eight rounds of this. I'm not doing eight rounds of 20 burpees. Like, I can't do it. 20 burpees soft. Yeah, it does.

SPEAKER_04

Like 10. I got through one and I tasted blood, and I'm like, this is dumb. Yeah. I'm fit.

SPEAKER_05

What is some like bench?

SPEAKER_04

I feel like it's somebody who doesn't do the work.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, they do it. Oh, it's Terry. Or Molly.

SPEAKER_03

Molly does crazy work.

SPEAKER_01

That's too much volume for Molly.

SPEAKER_03

Like or or DVH, but like somebody Derek, yeah, he's got some. Yeah, somebody I was like, you guys are psychopaths. Yeah. Like I'm not doing, I want to try, I want to think I can do these things, but I think that's like five rounds.

SPEAKER_01

Because then you get to round three and you're like, oh, okay, I only got two more. But like eight, you're like, same thing. You get to round five, like, fuck this.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I'll I'll go back and tackle it with five rounds with the 20 burpees, but yesterday I was like, no, we're just we're not doing that.

SPEAKER_05

I was talking to uh Drew yesterday, um there's that new gym in Raymond and that that's opened up, and they have the they have a rope pull machine. I've seen those, yeah. Oh nice. And he says it's amazing. He says, I love it. It's like it's go forever. Yeah, it's like it's all uh the Jacob ladder, but it's like a rope pull. Can you hang on it? No, you I think you sit or you stand? You stand or sit.

SPEAKER_01

It's just like it's like a rope treadmill. You know like those old paper towels in the bathroom where you just like oh it's clean now. Yeah, it's clean. Yeah, it's like that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he says it's amazing. He says it's like such good workout because there's like so much like yeah, the pulling mechanism and all that kind of stuff, and the grip strength because of the rope and yeah, he says it's awesome. Maybe we could get one of those. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01

Could could you buy one and then I could and then get yelled at and kicked out of the gym committee again. Hey, but we'll have a rope machine. Yeah, whatever, that's fine. Yeah, I'll find it for you.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I don't know. I just I want to I think I want to do these workouts, and then the time comes and I'm like, this is fucking hard.

SPEAKER_01

I I think it's because you're smarter than me. Uh because I just someone tells me to do it, I'm like, eh, and then I just like go and I do it, and then but this is where like going to the CrossFit gym, you would do it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, and that's why like social pressure. 100%. And that's why like I I agree with you. I would struggle if I was by myself in our gym trying to do that workout, I'd be like, why am I doing this? But if that was the same workout at the CrossFit gym where you show up and everyone's doing it, you just do it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, totally. It's silly. I don't know about you guys, but I even like yesterday I was by myself in the gym and I really like the quiet time and just crank the tunes and have some alone time. But I on average have a much better workout, even if there are just people there. And it's so I don't know, I don't know why that is. It's just like I'm like, yeah, fuck yeah, like you can see me working. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. See these biceps?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I guess you don't want the perception of your slacking or something. I don't know. It's just weird, right? Like when you're by yourself, you're just do you find that in a public?

SPEAKER_04

Because I find it more in a public gym than a than our nursing home gym.

SPEAKER_03

Ah, dude, I haven't been to a public gym in so many years.

SPEAKER_04

That's what I was wondering. Like, I wonder if you'd feel the same thing if you went to a gym where nobody knows you you're doing different workouts, not CrossFit. It's just like a public open area.

SPEAKER_03

Like, I don't get me wrong, I try not to be like focused on I don't give a shit what other people see me doing. It's just I just have a better workout when other people are there. I am the same. 100%.

SPEAKER_01

I think like I even like work better when there's like people in the office and do stuff, right? Like so you type in like your writing, it's just like, what's my phone doing? I don't want to type this.

SPEAKER_04

I need to go to secluded areas of the nursing home to work because I talk too much in the yeah, but I like that.

SPEAKER_01

I like having it doesn't need to be me talking, but just like the people around having a conversation. I might chime in, but then I just have a repeat of like, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But it's nice when everybody's doing that. Because you know when there's people that are just talking and you're like, okay, fuck off.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's I don't want to be that other guy with that happen.

SPEAKER_03

But when everybody's kind of I put him and be like, ha yeah, fucking joke. Okay, and keep then like I'm in the same way. Then I get like then I get shit done. Yeah. Uh a colleague of mine just got noise canceling headphones though, and it drives me bananas. Can't hear you like it all to like smack them in ear or like over top of ear.

SPEAKER_04

Noise canceling.

SPEAKER_03

And it's like to the point of where the other day I like I keep yelling. I was like, hey, hey, like trying to get his attention, and then at the end of the day, I'm going to leave, and I was like, bye, bye. And then I yell, and he did, and I was just like, fuck it. I'm fuck you, I'm done. Like, I'm leaving.

SPEAKER_01

Can I guess which one it is? Yeah, is he really good at poker?

SPEAKER_04

It's like totally fit. Well, you all we all work for different though. I can't work like that. I can't work in like just silence and anything like that. I need I need conversation.

SPEAKER_05

He's probably got he's probably not silent, he's probably got something complaining in his ear. He he better white noise. No. No. His tinnitus bring me.

SPEAKER_03

That'd be hilarious. But like I would I would really hate, I could not function. If you see, you know, a job where you have a cubicle, yeah, like a legitimate cubicle, and you're expected to just output eight of our eight hours of work, I'd be fired because I'd walk around distracted in the office space. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But the problem is that with that, is open time open timelines. I couldn't do it. If it was a closed timeline where it's like, yeah, this stuff needs to be done by the end of the shift, then I'd be like, Yeah, let's get after it. But those jobs, it's like, here, here's your job. There's no real timeline, just get it, get stuff done. I don't operate well with like banana.

SPEAKER_03

You can you can make systems. I remember reading about this investment banker who was super successful when he and the way that he was successful is a stupid thing. You had to make like X number of sales calls, right? And it that was the expectation of all these people or whatever calls they had to make, and like everybody was just kind of like dumb d-dum. But he would set like a pile of paper clips on one side, and he's like, I can't leave till I move all these paper clips to the other side of my desk. And each time I make a call, I move a paperclip. So you'd have like this visual thing where he'd be like crushing through paper clips, but then he just started crushing all the guys he worked with because he was doing like the calls, like stupid shit like that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I I tried that once. I put some paper clips here, and I was like, I gotta get three tasks. And then I moved one and was like, oh, you're the same as me.

SPEAKER_04

You're the exact like we'll get things done, but we need to get things done at the five-yard line. Oh, we can't do it when it's a big open field. Totally. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

No, I was like in college. I wouldn't write my papers till the night before. And they'd be good. But like cram. And then just like at some point, I just need somebody to accept like that's how I work. If you want it done, give me a timeline, like a like a really tight deadline. Yeah, it's exactly the same.

SPEAKER_05

You could I could know a month ahead and I wouldn't touch it until like way too late to the close to the deadline.

SPEAKER_04

But I feel like a lot of people at the nursing home are like that. And I feel like it's maybe it's something that drives us, like, because are you the same? Yeah. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. It's like, hey, hey, hey, you got a month to do this. Are you gonna do it today, or are you gonna do it no third 29 days from now? Yeah. I feel like we're all like that.

SPEAKER_03

But it's gonna live rent-free in your head full of things. Oh, yeah. Versus just accepting being like, listen, I'm not touching this for 29 days, so don't you fucking think about it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. That back burner is hot, and you just put it on there and just let it go.

SPEAKER_01

But I think if I were to do it like that first day, I would then like think about it and be like, uh, I should probably change it. Or there's something like, you know, versus you do it on the last hour of the day and you're like, oh, what's fucking up, see it?

SPEAKER_03

Like no time to change it there. Totally. It's 80% there, good enough.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, totally. C gets degrees.

SPEAKER_03

Cs and D's get degrees.

SPEAKER_01

D's. That wasn't that bad.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I wonder if that's a function of the type of job though, right? Where it's like you're always on like a super compressed timeline for things.

SPEAKER_04

Maybe we like that pressure. I like that. That's the only way I can do that. I like it. I like it too.

SPEAKER_05

So I figured out yesterday, I'm gonna have a problem. Uh so you know an old boss you used to have that you made a Halloween costume about?

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Yes, you are that person.

SPEAKER_05

I'm going to I'm gonna fuck yeah. I am going to struggle not being that person. Be that person. Oh, you're right.

SPEAKER_03

Uh lean into it and rework. Oh lean into it because like as somebody who reads the majority of stuff that comes through. And that was my point to somebody I talked to yesterday about that. I was like, Lean into it.

SPEAKER_04

I don't I don't like peeling back that curtain, and I peel back a bit, and I see how like you oh yeah. You think people are so smart and good, and then you just like, oh wait a minute, you realize you're literally something.

SPEAKER_05

So I was covering that position uh whilst while they went to the gym yesterday, and uh first one I read, I called the person in, I was like, dude, I was like, I'm sending this back. You like you have to change some things here, and he's he's like, Oh, okay. And so I had a conversation. I was like, okay, next one. Looked it up, I was like, oh no. I was like, send a text. Come see me. Come see me.

SPEAKER_06

You're two for two at this point.

SPEAKER_05

And I'm like, and so then when uh so then when the boss came back, uh I had to have like man, I'm this is gonna be a really hard spot for me. Oh no, uh, and I was like, I know, I gotta find the balance of like am I being just too nitpicky versus like this is actual bad work and needs to be fixed. And there's a there's a balance, I think, and so I'm gonna have to find that. But uh it's man, it's gonna be hard for me in that spot, or it's gonna be hard for anyone who's working for me in that spot.

SPEAKER_01

It's it's good though, and I think you will come about it in a good way where we're gonna be like, hey, fucker, like what the idiot? Yeah, just like hey man, like CJ's gonna read this.

SPEAKER_05

I did tell well, and that's the one that's the one guy I talked to, that's how it was. It was like, hey, your reputation is gonna be built on a bunch of dudes who don't know you who read this thing, and if they read that, it's not gonna be great.

SPEAKER_01

Because I can tell you, I read good reports, yeah, and I'll text that guy and be like, Man, fucking solid. Like, good job. And then I'll read some shitty ones and we'll just make fun of them.

SPEAKER_03

And you text him and be like, You are retarded.

SPEAKER_01

No, I just don't know how to we make it.

SPEAKER_05

Because you don't know because you don't know them that well, and that's the only way you know them. And then the but the one first person that I don't know very well, and I basically just said, Hey, this is garbage.

SPEAKER_01

Just this is your report, this is my trash bin.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, and like and like I I said I literally said that, but then we like talked about it and I joked with him about it, and I said, This is why, and whatever, he was fine with it, but it's gonna be tough.

SPEAKER_04

For any of uh JB's employees, just to let you know I do have that cost. And the Diary Date Girl sidekick costume if you want to borrow it for the Diary Date Girl. I've thought about that. I would love it if one of them borrowed it and came to came to a Halloween party dressing.

SPEAKER_05

Covering, I'm just trying to help out and do it. Send it all.

SPEAKER_01

It needs to be done.

SPEAKER_04

But it's also the responsibility that you would have as the old, like which part of it.

SPEAKER_05

But that's the struggle that I have is like that's that job. You're the gatekeeper. And I'm by not also by not doing that, it's like who who is picking up the slack on the other side that is like now saying, Hey, what is this thing that you sent through? You know what I mean? It's a tough, it's a bad, I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You start seeing it's weird as you get older and you start getting different like uh positions in in our job. You start seeing different um perspectives, like we do as we get older and stuff, of like why maybe people that we didn't like back when we started were the way they were.

SPEAKER_03

That's almost like experiencing some context.

SPEAKER_05

I know, right? Weird. I know, so then you start being like, oh, we're a bunch of morons. Because like the cycle repeats. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, oh, I will be that guy, and then's gonna hate me. Perfect.

SPEAKER_04

Uh you're leaving the Christmas party at 9 30 p.m. just just because it's just it's done.

SPEAKER_05

So they can yell about you for the last three hours.

SPEAKER_04

No. That never happened. That's exactly what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01

You leave because other people get drunk and then they start yelling, and it's like this is getting awkward.

SPEAKER_05

I hope I can find the balance, but I figured out yesterday that I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to uh really find that balance or find a way to do it in a productive way.

SPEAKER_04

It'll be fine. But that's that's the problem, is even like when you're on like a call at a nursing home, finding that balance usually causes more work at the end of the call, and it's just it's harder to get to the conclusion. Meanwhile, if you just hard nose it like a black and white, it's easier, it's more efficient, everyone get you know, I it's it's such a weird thing.

SPEAKER_05

Well that's the thing. I started by like actually just like fixing a couple things, and then I'm like, yeah, but they're not gonna know. They won't know, yeah. Right for them. Uh there's like when I I started reading it, and I'm like, yeah, well, I'll just fix that and fix that, and now I'm like, I'm I'm like, I'm fixing too many things. Because I'm like, there's no that like again, how will they know that I'm doing that and how do they get better? And I don't know. It's gonna be a problem.

SPEAKER_03

I appreciate you being the change you want to see.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's exactly uh yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It's the shit in, shit out, garbage in, garbage out. I yeah, it's yeah, that's gonna be interesting. And an aspect about it. Like I I suspect like a lot of these people, they just lack the context you have of like, oh, it doesn't matter, or like whatever I'm missing the big picture. That's why like some of the things I read, I'm just like, hey, I can see why you made the decisions you made. Right. They were completely wrong, but I can see why you did what you did. And then it's like trying to like coach somebody through that is tough.

SPEAKER_05

For me, it's just like it wasn't even articulation of anything, it was just poor writing, basically, in some in some cases. But and then one was just like, I need you to articulate this a little bit better, because again, you're you're gonna be judged on your decision making, and I'm not saying your decisions were good or bad, because in the end, you have to make that's our part of our job, is you have to do make those decisions and then explain why you did it. But if you don't explain why you did it in a in very well, then it's gonna look bad. Like it's gonna look like a bad decision if you don't explain why you made that decision. Totally. Actually, speaking of that, that book that you had, I want to I want to read that book. Uh that thinking in bets. Yeah. Yes. You have that still? Uh well, I just like read it.

SPEAKER_03

It is good.

SPEAKER_05

God, you guys are cool. Is it thinking in bets?

SPEAKER_04

Before you shake a stick at the library. No, I've a genuine. They have a massive selection of audio too. I didn't even know about. Yeah, you just amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Back to parenting. Sorry, this is gonna be a little time. You know, when like you make your kids do the things, like limit screen time, floss your teeth every day, blah, blah, blah. But then you don't really do all those things yourself. I had that thought the other day. I was like, oh, like, why don't I if I can floss my teeth every night? You don't floss your teeth every night? I not every night. I don't. Like every single night? Yeah. Most nights.

SPEAKER_03

Every single night. Okay, you're better than me so far. And sometimes in the morning?

SPEAKER_04

Really? Yes. Do you do a floss or do you do a floss, like an actual linear like a linear string?

SPEAKER_03

Oh. Really? Every night. Good for you. Most mornings.

SPEAKER_04

And so you know when I do that? In my car. I have the flossers. The only time I do it is driving around at work is the only time I floss it. It's good. It's still getting done. Okay, wait a minute. But back up.

SPEAKER_05

You're flossing your teeth in a car. Yeah. Yeah. The flossers. A car that other people use.

SPEAKER_04

The little flossers.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I'm not flicking it at the window. Yeah, but you would be because accidentally you're like doing it. And it's like ding, ting, ding, and now you're getting disgusting teeth juice. I'm not tinging. Tooth juice.

SPEAKER_04

It's a ting inside the mouth. Like I ting it inside the mouth. I don't do that.

SPEAKER_05

There's no way that some of that isn't coming out of your mouth.

SPEAKER_04

Let's run it. Let's figure out a way to do it.

SPEAKER_05

I think you're right.

SPEAKER_01

That's gross. Only do it in my own cars, so you're welcome.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I don't do it in my own cars. That's gross.

SPEAKER_05

But also, my kid has a library card, and I was like, oh, if I find one of those in the car, I want to lose it.

SPEAKER_04

I'm in your position for the next couple weeks. So I think on when we exchange vehicles, I'll make sure that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_03

Stick them in the dash, like sticking up. It's like expensive slossers for him.

SPEAKER_02

Trick, they all are.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, go use your library card because there's so much gold there. I know.

SPEAKER_01

I should read more. I should read every night. My kids read every night. I should read every night.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but that's just humans. We we know what's good for us, we know what we should do, we recommend people do it, and then we're intermittent doing it ourselves. That's just how it goes.

SPEAKER_04

The easy way out at night is I'm just gonna grab my phone and scone and scroll for 15 minutes, as opposed to grabbing my Lord of the Rings book that I've been working on for five years and reading like 10 pages.

SPEAKER_03

But it it's it's funny, right? Like if you can just force yourself to grab the book and open it, yeah, the rest is gonna happen. Yeah. Right? Like you literally, it's just because I'll do the same thing. I'm like, oh, book, eh? Scroll, scroll, scroll.

SPEAKER_01

Sadness on my phone. Sadness. Space isn't real. Ryobi tools for some reason. I like Ryobi tools right now. That's a thing. I don't know why you're talking to me right now. Tools. You get a lot of Ryobi. You want to buy tools? I want to. So I'm a DeWalt guy.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But for whatever reason, Ryobi popped up on my Instagram and they have this Kool-A wall mount system to like Milwaukee also does, but Milwaukee's way more expensive. So then I started going down the Ryobi rabbit hole, and they're like, yeah, like for the amount, I use tools. Yeah, they're good tools. Exactly. And I was like, they're cheaper. I know, but that's the I don't judge myself. No, they're good.

SPEAKER_03

I think you could find like a little happy middle ground, like rigid.

SPEAKER_05

No, Ryobi's fine.

SPEAKER_03

Especially like he's not using them every day on a job site. No, but like I bought a Ryobi jigsaw a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, don't buy anything that cuts. Ryobi can't do things that cuts. Wait, wait, wait. If it cuts, no. No, no. I got some floodlights of Ryobis, like some uh work work lights, stuff like that. They're amazing. Yeah, that's simple stuff, uh a trimmer for the lawn, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but not like your drills, your saws, like fuck no. No, fuck no. Rigids. At least, at least. If I could afford Milwaukee, I would. This is almost worse than politics.

SPEAKER_04

He would be and you would know, like, he would be good to invest in some a good set of like a DeWalt or something.

SPEAKER_01

I have DeWalt, but this is the thing, it's like the change. But I want I want more space in my garage for my garage gym that I rarely use, but I want more space for it so I can buy more things.

SPEAKER_05

I disagree fully with them. Uh, if you are on a construction site and you're using your tools every day, then yes, you're gonna spend a lot of money and get some good tools. Yeah, this is gonna be this is something you're gonna use twice a year.

SPEAKER_04

Uh but when I when I call I disagree with his decision. Yeah, I disagree with too. When I call Jeff, like, hey, I got some some siding down, can you come help me? And he rolls up with a Ryobi something or other place. Fuck I know, don't bring that junk to my house. I just I'm also not gonna be the guy you call if your siding goes up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but you can reach higher, yeah. I could I'll hold it for you.

SPEAKER_03

Like for context, I've had my rigid drills and they've been used a lot, but they're like eight years old and they're still going. I right with quality. The Ryobi would still be going in eight years too.

SPEAKER_04

I've I have a Mastercraft set though of a drill and an impact driver, and I've had them for like 15 years old.

SPEAKER_03

And that's garbage.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but and they've and they've been and they've been working like workhorses.

SPEAKER_03

Those are your president's choice drills, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But they but they work, so now that's my point.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, uh Mastercraft.

SPEAKER_04

We're not we're not using like manly reasons for it. Like what he used to do. He used to be a man when he used to use tools all the time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but but what man doesn't want a nice set of Milwaukee tools in his garage? So nice, right?

SPEAKER_04

If you're gonna treat yourself, yeah. Yeah, but they're like honestly three times the price. Yeah, but or like a nice DeWalt, like a 12-inch, like just that nice big DeWalt miter saw. I bought one, I've used it like three times and I've had it for 10 years.

SPEAKER_05

My drills, I think, are rigid, but that's just because they were I think I got them on sale. Lifetime warranty on the batteries, I think. Oh actually, all I think all, yeah, it's a good point.

SPEAKER_03

I actually have a table saw and they're all rigid, but I have a Bosch miter saw that's probably almost 20 years old and just going strong.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Bosch's like just yeah, that's a big time. Yeah. Uh Jordan's like all Bosch stuff, and he's he's but here's here's the thing though.

SPEAKER_03

So I can tell how things have changed, is like uh so I built some built-in melamine shelves in my closet downstairs yesterday. Pretty proud of my work. Good job. I was gonna say, like uh the only thing I was lacking was like a laser uh line. So it's leaning laser level. No, I had I had I I've never used a level so much in my life and measured so many different things, but it's fucking level and straight, and I'm proud of it. But I had to run the air hose from my garage in the window down to my basement for the brad nailer. Yeah. Whereas like if I was like modern, you know, they just have like electricals. Like now I need to get that because like peasants only use air. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I know I love doing home projects because you have to buy a tool to throw it with the best.

SPEAKER_03

That's no, like that's the best part. I have all the tools though, but they're just kind of like you can always get another one.

SPEAKER_04

You can always get another one.

SPEAKER_01

This good point. I thought that too, because for Easter the kids got basketballs because I love basketball. Nice. Uh, but they're a little flat. So now I was digging through my garage looking for the air pump, couldn't find one. Ryobi has a fucking like battery-powered air pump, and I was like, I I have that that one at the camper.

SPEAKER_04

It's amazing. Ryobi. 100%. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm cheap. And like I just have the Jing Zhao one. It seems to work too well. Actually, Timu probably has some good deals.

SPEAKER_04

It's this big. Yeah. The Amazon ones, though, yeah, the some of the tools on Amazon you can get, they're pretty good.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like I bought some bike uh tools, like a torque wrench and stuff like that for my bike and an air pump for the shocks and like a torque, a torque wrench.

SPEAKER_04

Do you want to explain what a torque went?

SPEAKER_05

Uh so a torque wrench allows you to tighten a knot uh to a certain force. A bolt. A bolt. I was gonna say bolt and then I went with knot. Yeah, I don't know if you would torque a knot. I don't know, maybe you would torque a nut. Anyways. I some I torque a nut sometimes when you torque the weights. Uh to a certain tightness, not anymore. Because if you do it more, you could potentially break it. Ooh.

SPEAKER_01

Or less.

SPEAKER_05

And it would fall off. And it would fall off.

SPEAKER_04

Did I tell you my story about like a tire?

SPEAKER_05

Sorry, I just did I tell the story about the tires on the the Jeep? Did they fall off? Well, no, but was this pre or post you knowing about torque wrenches? Uh this is after.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, let me tell you the story. Uh so we got this Jeep, that uh little 2005 Jeep Liberty, uh my daughter's driving around. And so we sold our Subaru, got a different one, and the tires from the other one where I look at and they say, Oh, they're the right size. Perfect. So I had winter tires for the old one in my garage. I was gonna sell them, but I realized they're the right size for the Jeep. I'm like, perfect.

SPEAKER_04

When you s when you say the right size, are they the right bold pattern or the right size? Shh. Oh no. Foreshadowing.

SPEAKER_05

So they're the right size. So I read I look at the side of the tire and I read the numbers, and it says, Yeah, that's the oh, they're the same. Perfect. Uh so winter comes and I take the tires off of the Jeep and decide to put them on the winter tires from my old Ciburu onto the Jeep. Uh so I get the tire on and it like I torque it up. I had your torque wrench, I I did it properly. I looked it up, I said, What's the torque specs? I looked it, did it properly. I got it on there. Sweet. Put all four on. Drive it to work. Oh dear. Feels a little weird. I guess I had the torque wrench, I had the torque wrench uh in the car. I get to work, I check the bolts because I'm like, is something loose? This is weird. Uh, and a couple of them were like not even close to torque. I'm like, what the hell? So I do it again, torque them up, we're good. Sweet. Drive home. Something's weird. Look at it again, check it again. I'm like, why are these not? What is going on? So I torqued it again and I tighten them up all to the torque the specs I'm supposed to. Whatever. Drive like that for about a month. Oh no, not not like not torque anymore. They they stay, they were good. Then I had to take oh, I had to take the vehicle in to get an oil change, and I decided, hey, we're because my kid is gonna think about getting her license, so let's get it the inspection done, whatever. So I take it to uh fountain tire, drop it off. I'm like, hey, can you do a uh oil change and then just can you just check the vehicle for me? Yep, no problem. I got a phone call. Uh yeah, good. Oil change is good. Uh vehicles actually look all good. Uh however, they're oh, you're you've got winter tires on there. I mean, yeah, they're old ones I just put on there. Okay. Um, well, winter tires are directional, and one of them is facing the wrong direction. I was like, oh, didn't know that. Okay. So he's like, yeah, we would change that for you, except that due to liability, I'm not willing to take these tires off and put them back on. I was like, what do you mean? He's like, Yeah, they're the wrong rims. Like they don't fit properly on your vehicle. Like, I'm I'm sort of shocked that they haven't fallen off. I was like, what? They're like, yeah, like it's like it doesn't fully sit in the it's not fully sit seated into the where it's supposed to sit, and because the it's not the right the bolt pattern was right, but it the hole or something did that anyway. I'm like, oh he's like, yeah, so I'm not taking them off. I'm like, well, okay, well, how much do the rims come and buy new rims and change because the tires were the right size, but the rim pattern was wrong, or the rim was wrong, so they had to buy new winter rims to put them in, then they now my tires don't fall off. Wow. Yeah, no, the bolts did fine. The bowl pattern was good. It was like, it's just like it just didn't go, no, everything was fine. It's just like it was like basically like it, there was a probably like a gap in the back. It wasn't seated fully because it couldn't go in all the way. Oh, like it wasn't flush against it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you see here, sir, how it jiggles like this? We're not supposed to do that.

SPEAKER_05

But it wasn't jiggling anymore because every time it jiggled, I wouldn't put a Fred Flintstone car driver. So yeah. I didn't know Winter Tire. Yeah, winter tires are directional. I did not. I was flying down that highway.

SPEAKER_04

Uh yikes, dude. You got lucky.

SPEAKER_05

So phone a friend. You don't know what you don't know, I guess.

SPEAKER_04

Uh yeah, but if it's fitting, I mean there there were clues, but if it's fitting.

SPEAKER_05

And that was the thing. Like, I I figured if they didn't fit, they wouldn't I couldn't put them on, but the bolt pattern was perfect.

SPEAKER_01

It's also funny because you're like all over AI and stuff. Like if you went and do a little search, like, these fit.

SPEAKER_05

But they did fit. Okay, yeah. Except that not, I couldn't really look in the back and see that it doesn't work.

SPEAKER_04

But he can only input into AI what he sees and what he saw was it fit.

SPEAKER_05

Uh and then uh Tony, yeah. He was there and I'm like, yeah, he's like, I'm like, yeah, it's weird. It keeps loosening. He's like, I don't know, that's weird.

SPEAKER_04

Did Tony give you any advice about not driving yet?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, well, just keep tightening it up. It's fine.

SPEAKER_04

I love it. Oh boy. It's probably fine. Anyway, it's fixed now. It's probably fine. Yeah, like 10 kilometers of highway. It's not a big deal. It's fine.

SPEAKER_03

That's fixed. Speaking of vehicles. Yeah. Do you like your new truck? I do. You do, eh? Very nice, very nice truck. Thank you. Thank you. What? What are you gonna do given that they've decided to not make them anymore? They still make them. Oh no, they don't. Yes, they do. Oh no, they don't. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Do they?

SPEAKER_04

Do they do they not?

SPEAKER_05

Well, I feel like we could solve this. Like I'll show you some of the things.

SPEAKER_03

I know that Ford is getting away from EV trucks. I would assume Chev is gonna do the same thing due to profitability.

SPEAKER_04

Uh would they would they still make the same because Ford's getting away from it, but like the Maverick you can buy without so it's you're just gonna lose out on your engine parts, but the same body is gonna be there the whole time? Is that what you mean?

SPEAKER_03

I don't think the like I think from what little I know, I don't know. There's almost no transferability between the EV and the gas. It's like as far as like batteries and being mounted in the frame and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, you wouldn't be able to like swap it over to a an ice.

SPEAKER_03

But like my presumption is is because I know Ford isn't making the the the lightning. Yeah, yeah. Maybe the maverick they still are, but yeah, manufacturers are moving away from EVs, even Tesla is moving out of cars. Yeah. Does that worry you?

SPEAKER_01

No, no, it's sweet.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. Yeah, I'm not saying it's not sweet. I'm just like, how far can you go on that one? 720.

SPEAKER_04

Jeez, that's hot, that's a lot. That's way good. On one. Is it is it hybrid? Like gas. Oh no, just straight up, eh? All battery, yeah.

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Does it go? Does it rip pretty good?

SPEAKER_01

Like it's weird because it's way bigger, so it doesn't feel like it, like you're not in a little sports car anymore. But it still goes. It's like yeah, yeah. And it's just like the base one, which is so good for the kids and stuff. It's just like, oh, it's plastic. I can clean it. Love it. I I'm very happy with it. It doesn't bug me.

SPEAKER_03

But what would you do if you had to buy a gas vehicle?

SPEAKER_01

I'm I this is the thing. I love vehicles, and like my wife drives the biggest fucking gas-powered vehicle you can buy, and I want to pimp it out. I want to like put like a cold air intake on it to like get some new like straight pipes and like get it all tuned. Yeah, yeah. So I love both. It's just I don't know. I'm for whatever reason addicted to this genre right now. You are you are very much.

SPEAKER_03

I thought you were gonna get a cyber truck.

SPEAKER_01

I so we rented one when we went down to Phoenix, and they're just not as big. Like I had test driven this before. Uh and it like they're fun, they're super techy and like way more advanced than that truck is. Um, but like we had the kid's seat in the back, and I couldn't be comfortable in the front seat, like I had to be a little bit closer because it was touching the the baby seat. So then with this, so like I'm comfortably seated, and there's like a two-foot gap between the babysitting. So it's just like, yeah, Cybertruck's fucking sweet, but it's just it doesn't go as far.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, 700. That's what that's I was shocked by that. It was really good. How long does it take to charge that thing?

SPEAKER_01

So that's here's the thing. It's uh got a way bigger battery pack. Yeah. So it takes way longer to charge, but like I just charge it at home every night or like you just plug it into the wall. Yeah, and you're good to go. So I've taken it like every time I go to Castle, I drive it there and back on 80%, and it makes it with like 300 kilometers of spare. Yeah, yeah. And then we went up to Calgary, drove around, drove it back, and didn't have to charge it at all.

SPEAKER_05

Um if you're at charge from zero, like hours.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, like, oh yeah, yeah. Well, it depends again what you're charging at, but like one ten volt, it would take you like days.

SPEAKER_05

What about like those like the EV, the chargers at uh Save On that no one uses?

SPEAKER_01

That one is apparently like a super duper super duper charger. So it's like 350 kilowatts, so it would charge it mine and like from zero, probably take maybe an hour or under an hour, but like for they say from ten to eighty is like thirty minutes or something.

SPEAKER_05

I'm like, I'm interested. I I I want I kind of want one for the convenience of like the not having to pay for gas, especially when gas is almost two dollars.

SPEAKER_04

No, that'll be over soon. We're fine. Sure. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05

Uh but uh but but I like I feel like I on the other hand, I feel like it's going away from that, and then is it gonna become a vehicle that's like it's a novelty that's gonna not make in 10 years it's gonna be a problem, or is it gonna I can which way is it going? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Like I I don't know a lot about it. I feel like you'll still see hybrids, so you'll still see the charging stations, but explicit EVs, I don't think everybody's moving away from them. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01

But then like you go to the states, like we were in Phoenix and California and stuff, and like they're everywhere, like every other car is a test.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, in Europe, there's like cities where you cannot go certain places without EVs. Like you're not you're not allowed downtown Madrid in certain in a certain area unless it's full EV.

SPEAKER_03

Really?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And it's funny because places like that, and I get you know, the southern states where it's warm and uh like it makes sense there. But instead of focusing on getting EVs in, you know, these countries that already have don't have like huge air quality issues overall, like could you imagine if they made that mandatory in India and just improved the air quality over China?

SPEAKER_05

Hey, speaking of China, do you think that uh Yes? Do you think that because I saw some things about like this relationship with Canada has with China now, that China vehicles would Chinese vehicles would come here? They are coming here. They are they could be have you seen some of those vehicles? Like I don't know, I don't know about quality. Like I don't know. They seem insanely insanely they seem really luxurious in a lot of and crazy technological in a lot of ways. Um and I'm just curious on like, are we talking like when Kia first came out, quality, or are we talking because Kia now is actually pretty decent. Not bad, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But like one day it's not bad.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, 100%. But like what are we in terms of quality and like how well they're made?

SPEAKER_01

That's I don't know. Like even because they look cool, like my my Tesla, uh there was like little things, right? It's still a nice car and whatever, whatever, but there'd be like little things like the doors that you have to push the panel in sometime and whatever. So I'm I'm also worried about that, where they have these cool techie looking vehicles that do amazing stuff, but then you bring it over here and it's just like a piece of shit.

SPEAKER_05

Do you and you say they are coming, like we know for sure.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, right here.

SPEAKER_04

And I don't know if the build quality over there is related to how they're driving over there. Like here, vehicles probably in the world, this is one of the toughest spots to have a vehicle because of the weather changes, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_05

And also like uh like crash, like uh crash testing, how they stand up to that. I'd be curious.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's that's interesting because with this truck I was trying to find the crash test rating on it because the cyber truck is like five-star crash testing. So I was like, oh fuck, kids, that's a good idea. But because it's so heavy, it doesn't do the same testing as like a normal commercial vehicle or something like that. That's the only thing I found. So there's no actual rating on it, but it's gonna obliterate you because it weighs 9,000 pounds. Like I'll be all right, I'll be okay, but you guys won't. Probably not.

SPEAKER_05

You're probably the frame will like just like shear off the top or something and the bottom's gonna be good. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Thanks.

SPEAKER_05

Uh have you seen those like AI crash test uh ones where they take 'em over like the speed bumps? 300 kilometers an hour. 300 kilometers an hour over like uh ten or a hundred consecutive speed bumps. It like hits the first like three and then it's like in the air, upside down. It's amazing.

SPEAKER_01

I saw when it was just a speed bump, but it was like like 50 kilometers an hour. And then it got up to 300 and it just takes off. Like it's like the overpass. Launches into space. Oh, that's so funny. And I watch all of them. I watch all of that.

SPEAKER_05

They're hilarious. Or the ones where they drive them into a brick wall. Like you're talking like the video game looking ones? Yeah, they look, they look at first you're like, are these real? And then or no, they they park it beside a wall and they smash it with the semi. Have you seen those ones? Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Those are cool. How accurate are though? I hope not.

SPEAKER_05

Super. But I don't know where I'd be parked against a brick wall and semi's gonna hit me at a hundred. It's a bad day. I'm just on everywhere right now. I watched a movie last night. Uh, have you seen Mercy?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's a new Chris Brat one.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's actually really interesting. Uh it's an okay movie, but I just think the concept is super interesting. Yeah. So basically, the concept is the if you get um charged with like a murder, the AI system essentially evaluates your case. And if they're if it's a really, really high, insanely high probability that you're you did it, they'll put you in this AI courtroom where you have 90 minutes to to uh present your case, and if at the end of the 90 minutes the probability still stays above 90, I think it was 92% that you did it, they kill you.

SPEAKER_04

Great. So is that the movie? The movie is that 90 minutes of him trying to prove his energy.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, the movie is not that long. It was like I don't I don't want to end it.

SPEAKER_01

I do want to watch it. It's a good movie. He's a cop and he gets arrested for murdering his wife. Yeah, and then he has to prove that he didn't do it.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. And like so, the cool thing about so it's interesting because those this AI system has access to all every camera, all phones, and they're talking about a world in which every everybody's phone by law has to be op uh um on the system, uh connected to the government system, basically. So now this AI can go to any camera, any phone, any social media, hack into anything, and you can use all of that at your disposal to prove that you're the that you're innocent. It's a really cool it was actually a pretty cool show, but there's more of the idea that's really interesting.

SPEAKER_01

It's also interesting because I saw a preview for a ring camera that recognizes your animals. So like if your dog goes missing, it's like, oh, I saw Fluffy over here. And I was like, okay, but we all know it's not actually like animals, right? Like people's faces.

SPEAKER_04

Like your neighbor's camera, it can pick up on that, saying, Oh, your dog was at your own. Yeah, I saw that.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, that's not fooling us. Tippy typey typey, and they're like, actually, not fluffy.

SPEAKER_05

I'm just for that's not surprising to me. Like, I think we I think we'll continue to give up more of our freedom or more of our um I don't know what's the word I'm looking for. Privacy. Yeah, thank you. Privacy for cool things like that. Probably. I uh because uh people be like, oh, that's awesome, yeah, sure. And they they'll give up that pri like the privacy of whatever because the is because life is easier if you like so the idea of like if you just connect all your phones, it's easier. Um you'll give up more and more privacy, I think, as technology gets better. Well, maybe not intention because you're not thinking about the consequences of where that leads, maybe. Right.

SPEAKER_04

Or if you're not doing anything wrong, you got nothing to worry about.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, exactly. Until until until you spend, and this is this is like I don't need to mean to bring this up, but until you send fifty dollars to an organization that the government decides they don't like and then they freeze your accounts, right? Because everything's connected. Does that happen? Yes. So that that's the problem with it, is like it's all good because you can say, well, I'm a law-abiding citizen, until all of a sudden, like, your thoughts or ideals are no longer the norm and they no longer are what the government believes is true or something, and then now you're the bad guy.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's interesting. And I like it was really I actually liked the movie, but it was just uh the idea of it super neat.

SPEAKER_01

I watched the new Anaconda movie with the city. Is that funny?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, you did? That was between those two last night.

SPEAKER_01

It's funny, and then it like gets a little carried away at the end, but it's so bright. Like Jack Black was hilarious. He's so good.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I haven't had internet for almost two weeks. Good for you. What? Good for you. I canceled TELUS because I hate them. Yeah, I hate TELUS and ordered Starlink. No, Starlink's great.

SPEAKER_04

How's the how's the dryout period here? What's what's that like?

SPEAKER_03

You still have cell servers, obviously, but yeah, but like the TV doesn't work. Do you like that? I I really no change. Oh like I'm good not watching TV at night. I'm tempted to that'd be awesome. Yeah, that would be it's the baby cameras that are not working. Oh, it's oh yeah, I guess they're all watching. So, what did people do? I know that's what I had to go check on them physically.

SPEAKER_02

I know.

SPEAKER_01

Watch these little chest rises.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, okay, is that that's normal, right? We all did that. Like you stood there for like a fucking minute or waiting for getting up in the middle of the night. Yeah, putting the hand on, yeah. All the time. All the time. Oh, my baby's not dead. I can go back to sleep now. Like it's just it's so weird. I can rest. Yeah. Not really.

SPEAKER_01

Nope. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. It's I laid there in bed for like a long time last night, like listening and didn't hear anything, listening, and then I fell asleep, and then I woke up and I was like, oh.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

I'm pretty sure your baby monitor could have an AI version where it could tell if your baby's chest is rising and falling. Oh, for sure. Yeah, you just give them permission to look at it.

SPEAKER_03

Didn't they get those things? Didn't they used to the things you put like on the baby's toes or whatever? Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01

Or like on the bed, and then if it doesn't move for a time, it sends an alert or something. Yeah. All the things. Yeah, technology is your friend.

SPEAKER_04

You used to just leave them in a cave when you went to go find food.

SPEAKER_05

Or leave them outside while you're smashing. While you boinked. Yeah. Who's going to be the first person that we know to get one of those uh robots that come and do your laundry and stuff? You.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. Like immediately you. And then you're going to talk to them because your kids will be out of the house.

SPEAKER_05

Hey dude, what's going on today? Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't dig into it.

SPEAKER_04

You got it. Do your kids use like do you have Alexas and Echoes and stuff like that in your house? Like, yeah, we don't use it very often. Okay. But I've I've noticed my kids use they have when they turn nine years old, they get uh Alexa. Okay. And then they put it in the room, they put it in the room, and it's just my my my sister gives them that for their present. Anyway, I've noticed they've they're having conversations with it a bit where they will go to bed. To creep you out? Yeah. No, uh like so what happened on April Fool's Day, my my youngest boy, and I give him credit, and he he he destroyed the day for the family, but what he did is he he he worked with my wife, he unplugged all he unplugged all the phones in, like unplugged my phone, unplugged my my clock in my room, took my watch, turned all the all the clocks in the house to two hours ahead, all this kind of stuff. So I wake up, I he's like, Oh, when are you waking up tomorrow, Dad? I'm like, about five in the morning. Yeah. So fuck yeah. No, it gets well, it gets bad though, because like so we're I wake up, I I okay, I sleep naked. Um and so it's hopefully this is relevant. Sorry. That's hot. We'll we'll get there. Just the context, you have to put it in here. Anyway, I get up, I'm I I wake up before my alarm. I usually do. I look over, my clock's not working, so I look around, my phone's not there, my watch isn't there, so I go downstairs, I'm naked, I'm standing in my living, we're standing in my kitchen, all of my clocks say eight o'clock in the morning. Meanwhile, it's 4 30 in the morning, and I'm looking at him like, like, what the fuck is going on? And then he comes around the corner, April Fruls, and he's like, Oh, I'm like, Well, yeah, joke's on you because I'm naked. So I go, I go back upstairs, but then he gets his backpack on and he does the same thing to my two other kids. Like, he wakes them up at five in the morning and I'm all for it.

SPEAKER_00

My wife's all for it, and he's like, Yeah, guys, of school, we're missing school, all this stuff.

SPEAKER_04

He reset all their clocks too. So my youngest boy runs downstairs and he starts getting breakfast and stuff, and my girl wakes up and she talks to Echo. She's like, Echo, I'm late for school. And they have a conversation about her being late for school. Then she comes downstairs and he reveals that it's a big prank, and she cries because she's eight and nine and emotional. But her first thought was to talk to Echo about it. Yeah, it's and I saw that, and I'm like, what the hell? They they can have conversations with them now, and they like they provide insight and advice.

SPEAKER_03

What did Echo say?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it says, Well, that's too bad. It sounds like you're having a real an April fool's mishap. Please make sure you get your stuff really quick and we can talk about this after you're done school. And I'm like, I don't like this at all. And I'm tempted to take away the chat bot version out of the like I don't like it. They they will have conversations and it shows up, but we have a parent account, so it's all their conversations are tracked. Oh, interesting, that's cool. And you can look through what they're talking about, but they do have like actual conversations with it. Like, my daughter didn't want to go to my gr my my mom's place, and it's like, oh, I'm going to grandma's, I'm not too happy about it. And this was at like eight o'clock at night before she goes to bed. And I'm like, well, she had that conversation with us, but I don't like that she's having it with a robot.

SPEAKER_05

Um mine don't that's a lot to get the context. No, I I I I I would agree. I think I'd be uncomfortable with that. Um, mine use it for like, hey Alexa, what's the weather today? That's kind of the base of what they use it for. They don't really talk to it. No? No.

SPEAKER_01

I'd be interested to see if your daughter's conversation versus your youngest son's like, I don't want to do grammars because I'm not feeling but then your son is like, what are butts?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Where do butts come from? Uh no, my kids don't do that. We like play music over Google, so they yell like, hey Google! Yeah, stop, and that's it.

SPEAKER_04

I noticed the I don't like it, I really don't like it. It's really making me uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_03

Turn it off then. I turn it off.

SPEAKER_04

Take away their friend.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like you I feel like you know what you need to do.

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah. I I need to go without an internet, that'd be amazing.

SPEAKER_03

You can have my Alexa one, like the first one to come up to you anymore. Doesn't understand what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01

Hey Alexa, is Skynet gonna happen? It's a terminator.

SPEAKER_04

Well, they're not that smart though, because like my kids can my kids can play like I got it. Unfiltered versions of music because my youngest boy will go up to the Alexa and go, Alexa, play MM. And then it'll play the unfiltered version because it thinks it's my voice. Now it can emulate my voice enough that it'll play the adult version, and I'm like, whack.

SPEAKER_01

I thought, like, yeah, is that Jason talking just now? Wow.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was pretty close. That's what you sound like. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_04

But I just don't like it because it was my first glimpse of it, like they're they're they're attaching to a robot.

SPEAKER_03

Wait till you have like a robot like in the charging station in your front hall and your kids hit home and you're like, hi robot.

SPEAKER_05

What's the one that's like um it's out already, and it's kind of like made of like sweater material.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah. You can buy it's like 20 grand or something. Yeah, it's not that expensive.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I mean, that's good. Does it do your dishes?

SPEAKER_01

It's not that expensive.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it does like laundry, cleans up your house. No way.

SPEAKER_01

It's made out of sweater material.

SPEAKER_05

It's like it's soft. That's what I was trying to say. It's like it reminds me of like a hard pillow. It reminds me of like a like a pillow, like a sweater. Like like is it like literally?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, exactly. Is it folding your laundry? I think I didn't. And like putting is it putting your dishes in like the rack or is it just like smashing, breaking them off? Gentle, gentle, soft robot.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, it's out. It was actually on a podcast. Um Schultz. I knew Schultz had it on a podcast.

SPEAKER_04

You do it you buy a subscription as well. So you buy like a$20,000 robot, and then that's the thing, right? And then you buy uh you can't really see it.

SPEAKER_01

Were they joking with it? I think I saw the came with that. They're like, tell me a joke, and then they burn it. Like they burn it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, like litter appendages, and they it can like get you water and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's like can you show me how you clean uh and I can't remember what it was. Show me how you clean a penis. No, that's not what they said.

SPEAKER_04

That's sad that that is the natural progression that will happen though when they become readily available. Yeah, that's the next step for people.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because you're gonna have a large swath of like really twisted people smashing their robots.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, 100%. But how much how much like of twisted people have driven technology? So if you think about the internet, the internet became so popular because twisted people wanted to see weird things and then technology got pushed by.

SPEAKER_03

AR, AR, yeah, probably. 100%.

SPEAKER_01

Then there's the age-old question if you have sex with a robot versus having sex with an unwilling participant who's human. Whoa.

SPEAKER_04

That's the age-old question. I hear it all the time. No, but you're right though. Like, why would you yeah robot rights? Robot rights. No, robot rights.

SPEAKER_02

I'm all for it. Robot.

SPEAKER_03

Five years. I give you five years till you have a robot in your house. I don't think so. Do you have a robot vacuum? No.

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

unknown

No. No.

SPEAKER_04

I actually want one, but we had like a gen one, it doesn't work well. I should get one. Yeah, you should. Yeah, see, that's the start. That's the gateway room.

SPEAKER_03

No, I would love a robot vacuum, but the problem is every year the technology gets better, and then the better you're like, oh, I need the good one, and it's fifteen hundred dollars. Yeah, but I think if you got one now, it can do it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, really?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

If you get a new one now, I'm sure it's good enough technology that's gonna clean pretty well.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like we have just a cheapy one and it's fine.

SPEAKER_05

Does it have like a base where it like unloads too, or do you have to unload it?

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, you need the self-free.

SPEAKER_04

You can get a robot to do that portion for you, though, like the unloading part.

SPEAKER_03

So but it would be nice like to have a robot in your house and it's like cleaning the toilet, wiping the baseboards, the windows. Like that thing would be busy all the time and your house would be spot.

SPEAKER_04

You could just have kids too.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the right.

SPEAKER_01

They could just do that when they're older. That's why you need the robot, because kids destroy everything.

SPEAKER_03

Well, when you're gonna go to your robot and be like, hey, can you pick that up? Seriously, can you just pick it up? Just pick it up. Can you just pick it up?

SPEAKER_01

How many times do I have to ask you to pick out the robot? Or the sock.

SPEAKER_03

Were you in kid mode? Just pick it up, just put it in the garbage. Please turn off kid mode. Could you please just walk into the garbage? If you just walked into the garbage, we'd be done this conversation already.

SPEAKER_05

Oh dude, you have no idea. Wait, just wait. My my my 16-year-old and uh exchange student are off in Vancouver on a marine biology trip right now and for like four days, and the house is like clean and stays clean. That's weird, eh? It's just like, what is going on? There's no mess everywhere. My son's not very messy. My daughter is a giant mess.

SPEAKER_04

You do way less dishes, you do like it's random, like you said, random garlic.

SPEAKER_05

You eat a cheese string and leave the leave the thing on the counter. Why? Why? Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I had my first experience uh not too long ago, like walking in the middle of the night and stepping on like a like projectile in my foot in the middle of the night.

SPEAKER_01

Like they're everywhere.

SPEAKER_03

Like, where did this come from? And why did you leave a pointy triangle sitting on the ground?

SPEAKER_01

And we do it to ourselves because like I keep buying them Lego and they keep setting up on the ground under my foot. At the bottom of the stairs.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, everywhere. So good.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, at least the robots will pick that up.

SPEAKER_04

All your kids have more things than you guys have ever had. So without doubt.

SPEAKER_03

And I keep trying to get rid of things, and everybody else in my life keeps trying to bring more things in.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, my wife has a pile for you. Like she's like, this give this to John, give it to uh him.

SPEAKER_03

And I can't say no because I'm like, well, they'd probably feel like I get some enjoyment out of it briefly, and then I can pass it down. But like we have a whole storage room now full of shit already.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And then it comes back to the same thing where it's like, oh, like I can't wait to get rid of that stuff that they don't need anymore. But now we're starting to do that. Yeah, and it's like, oh shit, like there's no more kids coming. Oh my god. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's nice getting rid of stuff though. Like I got like four bags of garbage that like stuff that I'm just gonna get rid of. Like we cleaned out a closet the other day. Like, why is this closet full of stuff? When's the last time we even were in this closet? Doing a podcast.

SPEAKER_03

You look at the old digital camera that's 15 years old and you're like, wow, but what if I need to take a picture with this?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I know. What's on this? Yeah, I'm gonna go to the phone, but that's cool. The cool thing about it is like you pull it out and you like take the card out and look at it and like, oh, these are some cool photos. But like again, they're not on our phone, so are we ever gonna look at them? We're ever gonna use them, probably not. Of course not. You don't even look at most of the photos on your phone. No, I got like 9,000 photos on my phone.

SPEAKER_01

I've started doing that instead of like scrolling through Instagram or whatever at night.

SPEAKER_03

Like you look at your photos and it's like, ah, so you send your wife some. Yeah, it's kind of fun. Yeah, the little memory. I lied.

SPEAKER_04

11,000.

SPEAKER_03

11,622.

SPEAKER_04

We're not gonna do this because I I know mine's over 20.

SPEAKER_05

Ooh. You can check how many photos you can do. Just go to your album and it'll should tell you right at the top of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

My wife has more, but at the very top?

SPEAKER_05

Like library, and then it says it's 11,622.

SPEAKER_04

27,500. Oh my god. I have I have a Google phone though. Oh, it's because you're mine says syncing because I don't have internet. But how many of those are dumb screenshots that I've taken?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but I every once in a while I'm gonna go through, I just said delete, like deleting, like you said, like a screenshot that you forgot to delete. And then you know, why did I take this? Say how many are on here?

SPEAKER_04

There's probably like 300, if not less than that, pictures of me when I was a kid, and my kids have like a million. Like my parents probably have I would say maybe I wonder how many pictures of when me growing up that my parents actually have of me. It's not 27,000. Nope. It's definitely not. Maybe we're in 40. 45?

SPEAKER_03

45, maybe, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Probably under, probably a hundred-ish. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, about that. One every year on your birthday, that's it. Yeah. There's the child. The child has grown.

SPEAKER_03

The obligatory Christmas photo with turtlenecks with your siblings. So good. I actually want to recreate that. You should.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. We need to bring back this. In the Sears Photo Studio, we need to bring back this Sears. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I miss Sears. Or just put something where Sears was.

SPEAKER_01

Uh yeah, we should put like I love I love the pickleball courts. Pickleball courts. An arena. Ice ranks. Soccer. Soccer's? Laser tag. Laser tag.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, laser is brutal.

SPEAKER_05

Paintball.

unknown

Paintball's brutal.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I think we need more restaurants in our city, so let's just do that. It'll stay in.

SPEAKER_01

Olive Garden.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Well, actually, I would take an olive.

SPEAKER_01

Will it turn into Galt Gardens? I'd hope not. Breadsticks. Okay, boys, I gotta go do stuff today. Yeah, I should probably. I was upset at the early start, but I like this. It's good to get it out by the way. Coffee, we're all jazzed up on caffeine.

SPEAKER_05

Jazzed up.

SPEAKER_04

It's like a little workout. You just do it in the morning, and then the rest of the day is I I love morning talk time.

SPEAKER_03

It's much better than nighttime.

SPEAKER_05

Uh next week, let's do weekend. Um Saturday. I work Sunday, so. Sure. I could do Saturday morning. We don't work Sunday. You work Sunday. We're the exact opposite. I know it's hard.

SPEAKER_04

It's gonna be two fours and all the time. Yeah, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_05

We'll have to sort that out. Friday. Yeah. I don't know if I'll be here, but I'll let you know. Fuck. I know. Life's life. Schedules are hard now. Uh thanks for coming again, Jeff. You're welcome. Thanks for having me. Thanks for listening, everybody. Okay, bye. Bye. Bye. Once again, thanks for listening. If you enjoyed the podcast, share it with a friend and consider heading over to our Instagram at Average Superior, checking the link in the bio, and supporting the show. Have a great night.