#87 Sunday Morning Convo

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SPEAKER_05 0:05

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SPEAKER_01 0:30

Everyone feels the same way you do. What do you do right now?

SPEAKER_05 0:49

Welcome to episode something or other, almost 90. I don't know. Welcome to the once every two month podcast.

SPEAKER_03 0:56

We're gonna get to 100 soon. Yeah, next.

SPEAKER_05 0:59

What are we yeah. Okay, whatever. We're here. We're here now. Who cares? Hey, do your best, forget the rest.

SPEAKER_03 1:08

That's yeah. Can you name where that comes from? Okay, I was gonna tell you. Oh, I know I know. I did that many times over.

SPEAKER_05 1:14

Do your best, forget the rest. Paw patrol. No. That's not a bad idea. That's not a bad show.

SPEAKER_03 1:20

No, it's not a kid's show. It is strictly an adult thing. Love on the spectrum.

SPEAKER_05 1:25

No. Think fitness.

SPEAKER_03 1:26

Think fitness.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

CrossFit. No.

SPEAKER_03 1:29

Okay, we're getting there. No, we're getting there. But that's not it. Before that. What was before CrossFit? Bodybuilding. No. No, no. But like similar to CrossFit in a sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

American Ninja Warrior. Programming.

SPEAKER_03 1:39

DVD. P90X. Yes! It was something Horton. Yeah, Tony Horton. Tony Horton. Tony? Yeah, Tony Horton.

SPEAKER_05 1:46

Do your best, forget the rest. I like word associations.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

Let's do more word associations. How many times did you attempt to get through all 90 days of P90X?

SPEAKER_05 1:54

Um, like twice, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 1:56

I'm about the same.

SPEAKER_05 1:57

Didn't you crush a whole 90 days once? I think I did it once, yeah. It's been so long.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

I made it halfway.

SPEAKER_02 2:01

What was the one you were doing a couple years ago that wrecked you emotionally?

unknown 2:05

Emotionally.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

I don't remember this. Like the like the stay hard or whatever. Oh, 75. 75 hard. Right, because you did like 120 hard and then broke. That's fine. I don't know what you're doing. You were not fine.

SPEAKER_05 2:17

Uh I don't think I ever I don't know if I ever f that might not be the one because I don't think I finished that, did I? 75 Hard? Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 2:24

Oh yeah, you did. No, do you not remember because you went for 75 days and then you kept going and you're like, I can do this forever. And then the day you stopped, you got fat for like two months.

SPEAKER_05 2:33

Immediately, immediately fat. I I go hard through cycles and I don't know why.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

No, I think it's there's there's it's some letters. It's something it's ADHD or No, I'm not. Yeah, you're right. We we we I think all three of us are a little bit okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:49

But I I hate that like that's a thing that everyone thinks they are now. Like they blame their lack of discipline, because I'm I'm talking about myself here too, uh, on something that's like beyond their control because it's controllable.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

But that's well then control it. Have you not seen the meme that says autism is the new stolen valor? It's like an autistic kid being like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_04 3:10

I'm on the spectrum, bro.

SPEAKER_02 3:12

Because everybody says they have autism or one of the D's or the you know, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_05 3:17

I definitely struggle um sticking to uh there's too so many things I want to do, so then I struggle. Like it's like the shiny thing over there. It's like I'm doing this.

SPEAKER_03 3:27

The definition of attention deficit. The thing that gives you the most dopamine at the time.

SPEAKER_05 3:33

Well that yeah, but I think that that's just humans. I don't think that's uh ADH. I mean, obviously that's part of an ADHD thing, but I don't think that's as just human beings looking for I don't know, either the best solution to the problem, either like fitness or I don't know. And then and then including like what do you like to do.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

So I I just struggle with but I think you're like one of those people, dare I say it's a spectrum of the more I think for ADHD it's more the more dopamine resistant your brain is, the more you look for explicit sources of it, I think.

SPEAKER_05 4:06

You know what I've been I think I said this last time. I was thinking about gold match crossfit, and then um we did that workout the other day last week with the team. Yeah, it's really good time, and then again just being like I think if I did that, I'd last be less likely to jump around as much because I'm I'm showing up and doing a thing. You've done that.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

You've done you've you've did that. Yeah. Like that's something to do.

SPEAKER_05 4:28

No, but it was no, but it'll be different this time. No, the problem was schedule. Like now that I'm back on this other schedule, I feel like it's doable. Whereas on uh day shift.

SPEAKER_03 4:37

He's just justifying it now. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

Uh can we can we give a big round of applause? The day shift would be what do we do? Jason is now a charge nurse. Charge nurse. I'm gonna be pushing that cart. I'm gonna be pushing that cart down the hallway. Yeah, it's exciting. I'm glad. You just you're gonna be good. You said when you went back to another schedule, it doesn't matter. Yeah, no, it's good. Just take you right off.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

My ADHD. You've been on it a bit. Do you miss the the uh day shift?

SPEAKER_05 5:04

No, I don't. Uh well here's my problem is that like this is so this will be my sixth. They're like next week coming up would have been my like sixth set, but three of them I haven't been on on the regular on my on my schedule because training and then next week there's training, and then I was on holidays, so I'm really like 50% of the time I've been there, so I I can't tell you. Uh dare I say you're in the honeymoon phase. Uh yeah, for sure. I still am. There's some really good this it's definitely a different job for sure that I'm I'm trying to get a handle on, as well as not being in that um primary role for three years, trying to get a handle back on that as well. So there's a lot of a lot of learning. Um, but it's been interesting. Yeah. I'm still honeymoon phasing.

SPEAKER_03 5:50

Yeah. I love it. Good. But the problem is that you're like with the the the best part of it is the days off, and I've had one set of four days off since the start of the year. Yeah, so they that's that's on me.

SPEAKER_05 6:04

But I've been thinking uh lately a lot about uh retirement. Retirement. I have ten years left. Uh as of May 2nd, I have 10 years left. You have less.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Uh seven. Seven. Hold on. Yeah, that's that's weird. That's weird.

SPEAKER_05 6:18

And but I've been thinking a lot about that and like what that looks like, and then from a financial perspective, what that looks like. Uh we are thinking a ton about potentially selling our our house and moving downsizing a bit. Um and I just it's just been interesting thinking like what does that look like? What do what do I want to do? Um, can will there be enough money from pension and other things that I don't need to get a job? Definitely could, definitely need to find something to do, but um, and then looking just I've been really looking at that a lot. And like you, seven years, you definitely should start thinking about that.

SPEAKER_03 6:53

Oh, yeah, I'm not there though. That's fun, like it'll be a second job for a couple years, pulling in two to make up for the single income that we have we have had to yeah, no, that's understandable.

SPEAKER_05 7:04

But that's something that like from a my like a running numbers perspective that uh you could start doing though, right? And have an idea of what it is because then that also changes what kind of job like if you decide to stay here or you decide to go somewhere else, what kind of money you're looking at to essentially make it worth your time. So if you are making enough in your pension and you only need to supplement by a couple thousand dollars a month, you could look at literally any job that you want. It doesn't matter if it's like high paying, because it does that that doesn't not as important as like the the actual work that you're doing, right?

SPEAKER_03 7:34

So and your time off and your quality completely, right?

SPEAKER_05 7:37

Yeah, so you could work half time somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

Does it feel like like we're all past that half? Like, does it feel like we we are? To me, it doesn't feel like we have that.

SPEAKER_05 7:47

So when you say 10 years, that sounds like long, right? You start thinking because you think about 10 years as like your kids and how are they older than 10 years and you can't imagine 10 years from now, right? Uh mine would be 26 and 22. Crazy. Um and you you start thinking about that and you're like that seems insane, but think about the last 10 years and where did that where did it go? Like you like looking back at it from here, it just seems like that is that was yesterday, right? So I think we have you have to think start thinking about those things because uh hey, the best time to plant a tree was 25 years ago. Hey, the next best time is today.

SPEAKER_02 8:27

That's right. I don't think I'm gonna be planting any trees today. Okay, it's snowy, but if you're going to Costco on a Sunday, you've got your day. I'm my day is written off.

SPEAKER_03 8:35

Do you find it goes faster on the day shift or the for time? Yeah, because it it is blowing definitely way faster on the forum.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

It is nuts. I think it slows down on the day shift.

SPEAKER_03 8:45

Oh man, it is nuts.

SPEAKER_02 8:47

But the thing, like I would like the kid from Billy Madison, I just want to grab people on day shift and be like, stay, stay as long as you can. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 8:55

No, it's good. Like that from a like a life um perspective and you know, family planning. Uh so I started watching a show yesterday called The Madison. Have you heard that? Of that show? It's on Paramount.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Nope.

SPEAKER_05 9:07

It's another one of those Taylor Sheridan shows.

SPEAKER_03 9:09

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 9:10

Why did he say that?

SPEAKER_03 9:11

Well, come on, like he can just stop. Why? They're good. Okay. I I I gave Marshall. It was Marshall's?

SPEAKER_05 9:17

I haven't watched that one yet, so don't ruin it for me. Horrible. I'm gonna watch it anyway.

SPEAKER_03 9:20

Well, I I can just judge it by the first episode, though.

SPEAKER_05 9:22

Landman?

SPEAKER_03 9:24

Yeah, I haven't watched it.

SPEAKER_05 9:25

Okay, well then shut your mouth.

SPEAKER_03 9:27

All of his shows are good, and then they just get terrible after a couple seasons because he just keeps on pumping it out. Yellowstone was amazing the first two seasons, then it just goes I love the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

Horrible. Love the whole thing. I never watched the fifth season of Yellowstone, but by four it was definitely going to be.

SPEAKER_05 9:44

Tulsa Kings. Yes. Uh anyway, this is the Call of the Madison. And it's very it's a very yeah, it's a Taylor Sherry's. Simplifying your life, and I we talk about it all the time, but and really enjoy enjoying moments, like uh focusing on things that are important versus the you know how you get stuck in every single day of the the you know, the rat race or the what's the next thing I want to get. And anyway, it it's a it's uh it's a tearjerker for sure. It's a really good show.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

Well, I'm only three episodes in of six, but there's something though when people watch these shows, you remember with Landman. Oh, I saw all the memes of people being like, I'm going to the oil field. Completely. It's just like the shows give you the impression of like, oh, I need an identity that I don't have or something like that.

SPEAKER_05 10:38

I think it's simplicity, a little bit of simplicity. So this one is like a month again, Montana-based. Um, and it's just you just look at it from a simplicity standpoint, and you're like, What do I could I live that way? Would it be would I feel more satisfied with um?

SPEAKER_03 10:56

Oh, they got they got kids and stuff. What do you mean? In the show? Yeah. Yeah. So here's the problem with that. I guarantee their nights aren't spending running around to 10 different activities to take the kids. Like, seriously, uh the preview right now it's playing, and it's like them sitting on the couch snuggling in their cabin. And I'm like, that is not well.

SPEAKER_05 11:13

I'll give you the premise because I don't think it ruins anything because it's essentially the first episode. Basically, ah, no, I'm not gonna tell you. I don't want to ruin it. Uh it's a yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:20

Give us the we can give us a it's a New York City family who is probably busier than we are. I feel like I I yeah, I don't like shows like that that make it look like it just so it's just shows maybe I'm doing it wrong where like we're eating at supper at eight because the kids have three different things.

SPEAKER_05 11:34

No, you're not doing you're you I don't know if wrong's the answer, but and I agree that like we're so busy and we feel so obligated to keep our kids so busy, like there they need to be in gymnastics and then dance, and okay, we tried that, and let's try this, and and okay, you're doing soccer, volleyball, basketball, badminton, bocce ball. Sportball. Uh sport ball. Yeah, I don't know. There's there's a million things, right? And that's that's good. I think kids should be busy. I think it's it's helps them. Um it it builds a lot of things. Team sports, we all know, is insanely important, I think, for kids. It helps them uh understand how to work in teams, all the stuff, right? Because we all know people who haven't played team sports and they're a little different. So I think it's good. I think it's very a very good skill to learn, but to what extent? Like having some downtime where they're bored, which doesn't happen anymore, because if they're bored, they just throw the TV on or grab a phone or grab an iPad or whatever. So like they don't know what boredom is, really. I like it. And they don't know what to do with it. I like making my kids bored. Yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_03 12:38

I I love it, and then they just complain, and I'm like, I don't care. Yeah, figure it out. And then they will, they will figure like they can, they have the ability to make themselves occupied.

SPEAKER_05 12:46

And that's the thing, and in this show, just again, without ruining anything, two of the girl, two of the kids are like in new they're from New York and they just don't know what to do with themselves. The fact that they've got don't have their phones, and uh this one part uh some neighbors bring over some food and they call it Indian tacos and they're just like appalled. You can't say that. And it's like, well, that's what the they call it. Like anyway, it's just it's just interesting to see like the clash of uh like the New York education system and then the Montana like down to earth people. Anyway, it's I'm really liking it. So we're only three episodes in, but uh cried a little bit yesterday with that show. On three episodes, hey. Oh dude, first episode. Okay, good show. Wow, yeah, really pulling on your heartstrings, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 13:30

I mean you cry easy, yeah. I do cry easy, but like I'd maybe check it out. I like Michelle Pfeiffer, she's awesome. She's Kurt Russell, yeah. Yeah, I'm in there. That's that's pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Yeah, it's good. But you shame Taylor Sheridan.

SPEAKER_03 13:41

I I don't hate him, I just feel like he's starting to mass produce shows over over.

SPEAKER_05 13:45

Like, you know, it's a very typical Taylor Sheridan show as far as like really romanticizing like Montana and showing it, there's lots of like views and showing like the scenery, which is awesome because it's it's really nice. But it honestly, it looks like Alberta. Like we're the same, like if you go especially a little bit more uh west and a little bit more southwest, like you're essentially in the same landscape. Um so I just started looking at if there are any cabins available to buy over there.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

Yeah. Chasing that identity.

SPEAKER_05 14:14

No, man, I I don't know what I'm I don't know. Simplicity, I think, is what I'm looking for.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

Which is why you're downsizing.

SPEAKER_05 14:22

Yeah. And and it just it just you start asking yourself, like, what do I need? Like, I want you want security, you want financial security, and then so that's how this this is be a decision that would help that as well. But in the end, it's like uh from a physical standpoint, like what is it that I need in my life to make me feel like I'm you know, doc I I'm I've happy is not the right word, but that's what kind of what I'm looking at. And then like what do I want, what do we want to do? And again, we've talked about this at die with zero stuff that like making sure you're you all we have at when we're 90 is is gonna be memories and experiences, and if you've done nothing because you're hoarding your money, like what so what was the point? So it's a kind of like that balance of like, okay, well, we have some security here because of this. This is a decision we made. Now, what do we want to do? We want to go on three trips a year. Let's do that and let's start, you know.

SPEAKER_03 15:13

How many objects do you think you have in your house? Like individual individual things. I don't know. Like this would be like huh? Too many. I don't know. A thousand. I I think the average I watched the thing, the average home has three hundred thousand individual objects in their house. Like like that bookcase, like everything is an individual object, right? Yeah, yeah. Um that's fuck nuts.

SPEAKER_05 15:33

And that's another thing I I look forward to, is if we ended up doing selling and moving again. Well, yeah, the dumpster costs, yes, yes, on the Facebook marketplace everywhere, and dumpster.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

But we're we're on the tail end of the accumulation of junk. That's the thing. Yeah, you're at the start of the accumulation of junk. The number of toys.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

How many of you have relatives just giving you stuff? It's all hand-me-downs, and it just accumulates. And I'm and I'm trying not to get annoyed by the clutter because I know it's a transitional thing. Yeah. Eventually the clutter will decrease again. Yeah. The clutter is so cluttery, though.

SPEAKER_03 16:07

Dude, you that's and that's you have a big space too, and it gets cluttered, right?

SPEAKER_05 16:11

But that's the that's the thing about it. Like, I'm at the other end of that where my kids don't play the toys anymore. So, like, all any toys we have in our house, I'm like, why do we have these? Um, and I can get I don't have it anymore, so I can like purge all of that crap um and feel great about it. Whereas you can't really. It'd be stupid for you to do it because you're you're you have two small ones, if you have another one, like you have you know, it's gonna be a while before you get to that pick. You're stuck for like a solid 10 years.

SPEAKER_03 16:38

We have a friend who's going back into the into the mold right now. Like he uh about your age there, he's going back. Now he his kids are like 16, 17, 18 type thing, and now they're he's with another woman and they're trying. Oh no, and no, but he's he's such a good guy, and like, but you can see he wants it so bad, but at the same time, he's like, I am not ex excited about that.

SPEAKER_05 16:59

Yeah. Like the redo of the first year of having so there's some things that I like I miss about that, right?

SPEAKER_03 17:06

I feel like I would go back in a second.

SPEAKER_05 17:07

I wouldn't, but like there's definitely things that I miss, you know. I come here and I love it because I can't.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

That was the that made my morning, by the way. When I walk in and she says that like that that's just amazing, right? It just uh but when you're in it, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:22

It is, which is annoying, right?

SPEAKER_02 17:24

It's super annoying to like to know that um even things you know, yesterday and today and tomorrow, I have so many things to do because I've essentially been gone for two weeks. Yeah, um, it's like it's overwhelming the number of tasks I feel I need to accomplish to just try and keep this house functioning. You know, things that need fixing, things that need doing, things that need uh organizing, whatever it is. And then I just burn like my entire day trying to stay afloat, right? Like that was yesterday. Like putting that fucking Starlink up took me like six hours. Mostly because I'm like OCD about how I run the cable and you know, yeah, sealing every hole and you do it right the first time, though. Totally. But it I started at I went to Rona at 10 o'clock and I didn't finish until 6 p.m. Right? Like, and it just oh, there goes the day. It's worth it. It's totally done, which is nice because like nothing worse than a half-finished project. And I've realized my brain struggles with half-finished things. Like it's like that need to like I got a lot of those in my house I gotta do.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

Oh, yeah. Or the 90% done thing where it's like the baseboards are on, but there's no caulking, like that kind of a thing.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

Yeah, and that's the thing, like I think those are the things that actually cause me stress, like mentally, is the 90% done. So like I'm just like, yeah, I need to get it like 100% done.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

I think we're we're our own worst enemy too. That like I like I appreciate that, and I'm the same way. We're just like yesterday was redoing my my kids' room. He's like, Oh, I want a light strip around the ceiling. I'm like, okay, cool, let's put in some plugs. I'll put another breaker, you know, we'll do it, right? So you can't see the cords and all this stuff. And he's like, Well, we just we just run the cord from the bottom. And I'm like, no fuck, no, we're not doing that. Yeah, and so I spent all day. We put in some plugs, another breaker got attached. Like, it was a it was a mess. Putting some plugs in the wall, uh, yeah, in his room, so up there, so you could like it's above a shelf, so it's like a floating shelf with a light, and you can see you don't see cords, and it cords grab me nuts. You just got a hole in the drywall and fish a fish wire, yeah. But he's close enough to the fur to the uh furnace room that I ran a new breaker to the the thing because it was kind of overloaded already because the home builder sucks. But yeah, instead of just plugging it in, and then I think we're our own worst enemy because I can't do anything but that. I can't I can't just run a cord.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

Yeah, but there's something about like the visual clutter of it or like the bug of like I find even looking in this office, which just stresses me out, and it's just like I I love the wedding, the wedding uh deck. But it's just like it's it's visual clutter that then like translates to like mental clutter, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 19:38

It's just I think it can. I think uh you have different personalities kind of react differently to that kind of stuff. Some don't care and it doesn't bother them at all.

SPEAKER_03 19:45

And then some it's some Yeah, that's because we're looking at him and it's got like a blank wall with like a nice bookcase. He's looking over here.

SPEAKER_05 19:51

No, but I no, I just think some people they they can't operate in that world of like clutter, and so like they just can't think about anything else until that's done, and other people just don't even see it, it doesn't matter to them.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

I'm that way. Like I I gotta I started playing Cyberpunk.

SPEAKER_05 20:06

Oh, it's a great that's a great it's a great game.

SPEAKER_03 20:10

I started playing it, and then we emptied my boy's room out the other week just to start re-reorganizing. Yeah, and all that clutter is in a living room. I can't sit on the couch downstairs and play cyberpunk, which is probably the best game I've ever played. And because just in the peripheral, there's just shit everywhere, and it drives me crazy.

SPEAKER_05 20:25

That's a really good game. I played that. Uh I haven't finished it, but I played a lot of it.

SPEAKER_03 20:28

Oh, I love I love the shooting with like the like the on the PlayStation, it pushes back against your finger, like it gives you a trigger pull and like presses against it for the first room.

SPEAKER_05 20:36

Oh, you have a PS4 or five?

SPEAKER_03 20:38

Uh five.

SPEAKER_05 20:39

You got a five?

SPEAKER_03 20:39

Yeah, Christmas uh Oh yeah, right, nice.

SPEAKER_05 20:43

Sweet.

SPEAKER_03 20:43

Early Christmas gift for me. And then and the family. And the family also. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_05 20:48

Uh I might have maybe bought myself a new gaming computer.

SPEAKER_03 20:52

Oh yeah. That's your there. There you go. That could be your that could be your thing. You can retire and then just game. Well stream. And live off just stream. Live off dividends and pension and just game.

SPEAKER_05 21:00

That's right. Uh I can't do just that. Could be a streamer.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

Be fat. Like a 50-year-old streamer. How old will you be in 10 years?

SPEAKER_05 21:08

54. Uh well, yeah, because my birthday is May 7. So um I turn 44 this year, and then I can retire at on May 2nd in 10 years. Well, 10 years and whatever, however many days that is.

SPEAKER_03 21:21

Then it's second career at that point.

SPEAKER_05 21:22

So 54.

SPEAKER_02 21:23

That's like a ah, is it though? Like a I don't know. I mean, I'm pretty steadfast. Like I don't want to work again.

SPEAKER_05 21:28

I uh I don't so again just looking at numbers, like playing with some things. I mean, uh who knows what can happen. A lot can happen in 10 years. But um, I don't think I will have to work if I don't want to. Um if I can if I continue on my path. And and obviously the markets and the finances, everything goes doesn't get blown up.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

But yeah, everything might get blown up.

SPEAKER_05 21:50

But if that happens, we're all screwed. It doesn't matter. It's not gonna be just me. It's gonna be if uh the markets uh are like an EMP just erases all the data on the computers and nobody has anything that We're all screwed up.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

I have all my money and my mattress.

SPEAKER_05 22:02

Money won't matter. At that point, you would you wish you had like cans of food in your life? It would be pointless, yeah. Yeah. Or like, I don't know, grain. Something you can trade.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

A cow. A cow. Every Costco trip, I buy an extra thing. So we have like a bag of rice now and some beans.

SPEAKER_05 22:17

Are you sticking your hands in it and turning it?

SPEAKER_03 22:19

No, I I got off. Are you still doing that?

SPEAKER_05 22:21

He hasn't done it yet, have you?

SPEAKER_03 22:22

I haven't done the right. Speaking of uh, are you still doing the hand strengthening stuff?

SPEAKER_02 22:26

I'm still, yeah, like I'd say it's still grip strength is still a focus of 2026. I'm just finding right now my body is not recovering in any meaningful way. And I tweaked my back a couple times last week and like I'm hurting right now.

SPEAKER_05 22:40

Oh yeah. Uh we came in one morning to work out before work, and uh I was not motivated, so I was barely doing anything. I look over, he's starting to go with some light deadlifts, just like 135. Which is where I was gonna stay. Yeah, just 135, just stretching it out, doing some good deadlifts. Our buddy, uh friend of the podcast, Jeff, shows up. Jeff starts uh jumping in with them doing some raps. They throw in a little like another plate, just 225, just doing some, just uh something five reps, whatever, chilling. And Jeff throws on another 25s on both sides, does some raps. Then he throws on a third plate, so now we're what is it, 355, and then they're doing some reps, and then I'm looking over and he's like, I shouldn't be doing this, and he's still doing it, and then a fourth plate goes on. Uh actually, I think it was 365. You guys did first, and then a fourth plate goes on and they do 405.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Yeah, yes, yes, and it's funny because Jeff he comes to me and I'm doing some planks, I'm doing some light deadlifts. I'm just working on, I'm just like, because I don't I haven't deadlifted in years, and I'm just I'm just gonna do some just to get like the form, doing a little bit of dead hangs, like just my usual fitness thing I do these days, and then Jeff, he's like, Hey, do you mind? I was like, Yeah, go for it. He's like, Oh, okay, like I do you might he said something like, Do you mind if I put some weight on it? And I literally said, Oh, I don't care, I'll lift whatever you put on there. I should not have said that. Uh he decided it was the heavy deadlift day. So then we're we're up to 405, pull 405, no big deal. And then he's like, Oh, I'm gonna put a little bit more on. By the way, Jeff for being nine feet tall can deadlift a lot. And then he's up to 425, which I could not pick off the ground. But at that point, my back was like, uh, I it was cold.

SPEAKER_05 24:13

I jumped in for one rep at 365 just to see if I could do it. And then I decided I felt I didn't prepare myself, but I was like, ooh, that could have been bad. So I didn't do it anymore.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

And like by the end of the day, you know you're walking where your back is like arched? Yeah, you're like walking like you have a stick up your ass. Yeah. That was that was Friday and then yesterday, and then sleeping. Every time I sleep and move wrong, you get that like nerve pain where it like jerks you. Uh last night, I feel okay-ish right now, but I it's just so tight.

SPEAKER_03 24:42

Don't you hate it when like you get that feeling that stick up the ass feeling that you know that sleeping that night and the next morning is gonna be terrible and you're just dreading it.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

I've learned with this type of back pain, specifically from deadlifting, is that you need to give it minimum four days to assess did I hurt myself, or is it just like soreness? And I'm pretty sure it's just soreness because it's getting better. But like you do like a heavy leg day or like heavy bench press, like you're not fucked for four days after. Whereas this, I'm just like uh squats. Like, I was uh squats can do that though. Yeah, but you know, walking, you're like, Oh, I didn't hurt anything, it's just my legs are just non-functional. Yeah, but the back being like your primary structure.

SPEAKER_05 25:19

I wish I go went to a gym where they have all these like fancy new machines that minimize injuries. Like, what's that?

SPEAKER_03 25:25

Um that is definitely not CrossFit.

SPEAKER_05 25:27

That's true. What is that machine? Uh it's like a squat machine, but it's um thing that goes around your waist, and you um it's got like a rope. Oh, yeah, I don't know what it's called, but yeah, but like it's got all the all the pressures essentially on your hips, nothing's on your back. Uh like I would love to do that. Um, and then they have all these other crazy machines they have now. But when I in actually in uh Mexico, the gym they had um some really good um uh equipment where like so like the bench press where you sit you're sitting on the bench and it's um it's like solid, so you're just pushing out two bars, but it has some like play in it, so there's more like stabilization muscles that come into play, not just like strictly just push. It had like some bands somehow they cause like a bit more stability issues, which is actually was really good. I liked it.

SPEAKER_02 26:15

I have just found no need to deadlift heavy or squat heavy when I can just do you know goblet squats with yeah 100 pounds or less. And again, what's the purpose? Yeah, for sure. Like I'm not at this point not trying to pick anything up and prove anything uh until Friday.

SPEAKER_05 26:31

Um Mo uh was his competition, I think, right away. He put a video of him, his his one more his last video, last I don't know what it was, last workout before his competition. Uh 405-pound bench, just like it was uh nothing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

And he's tall too. That's that's something he's so tight.

SPEAKER_05 26:53

He's giant human, and like he just put it, like it's just he just nice slow touch the chest, nice solid back up, ding. I'm curious what his max is gonna be at that competition.

SPEAKER_02 27:02

What it wonder what it feels like to be that strong.

SPEAKER_05 27:05

I don't know, or that big. Yeah, uh it'd be so I don't know, it's gotta be known. Like, like even like with Jeff, I think, oh you're tall. You know what I mean? Or our friend Ryan at one. Yeah, you get sick of that problem. He's like, hey, wow, you're tall. Do you play basketball? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

I wonder though, I was thinking about this when I was doing push-ups the other day. I was just like doing push-ups and I was picturing, like, oh, I'm just pushing the earth away from me right now. Oh, it's like, ah, fuck yeah, I'm strong. But could you imagine how strong you'd be you go to another planet where there's less gravity? Maybe there's like a like a race there of things that are like But then you'd like your muscles deteriorate, don't they? I imagine they would.

SPEAKER_05 27:39

But for a minute you'd be like, I'm so strong.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

But what if like it's the opposite, like an invincible when they go to the planet that has more gravity.

SPEAKER_05 27:44

Good point. Or the sun affects your body somehow, and you end up with powers.

SPEAKER_03 27:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:50

Have you watched all of the invincible? I've only watched first season of Invincible.

SPEAKER_03 27:53

I got like four or five episodes. Oh no, you haven't really?

SPEAKER_05 27:55

Yeah, I gotta watch it again.

SPEAKER_03 27:56

It's I I've cried. You've cried in a new one. No, it's it gets it gets the first season, just all like character building and stuff, then the second, third. Yeah, you have to watch it. Then some romance gets involved, and there's some it's great.

SPEAKER_05 28:09

Uh my new computer, I haven't set up my second screen yet, and usually I have like one screen playing a show and one. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 28:15

Uh yeah, I don't know. A D A D.

SPEAKER_05 28:19

I haven't set up my second screen yet, so I haven't been watching it.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Actually, no, because you don't have enough stimulation from the freaking game.

SPEAKER_05 28:24

On my phone, I've been watching uh Euphoria. That is such a messed up show. We talked about it, I think, last time. It's so good though. It is good. I I'm into it now, so now I gotta finish it, which is a new season, apparently.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

Uh I think I'm on season two only. Oh, okay. I I really like that uh drug dealer guy. Yeah. He died. Why'd you tell me that? In real life. Oh, yeah. I don't know the show, but in real life. That's because from drug dealing? I actually think so. Oh really? I don't know. I could be wrong, but he was he was great and then he died.

SPEAKER_05 28:53

Uh yeah, he seemed like a good character.

SPEAKER_03 28:57

Yeah, he was a good actor. My three my three shows I'm watching are all cartoons. So it's good. Like I log into Amazon, I continue watching his three cartoons. Like, oh that's uh good thing or not.

SPEAKER_05 29:07

Watch the new Anaconda with uh Jack Blood? Yeah, it's pretty funny. That's super funny part. This is dumb, but it's funny. Uh was trying to find a good comedy to watch with the kids, and uh I saw so role models, and I'm like, ooh, is this too old? Yes. Well, I didn't know, I couldn't remember. So I threw it on and we watched about uh three minutes, and then I'm like How did you think how do you don't it's a great movie? It's so because it was so funny, so I wanted to watch it again. Uh my 12-year-old was like, Okay, this is too much for him. So he turned it off. But we ended up watching it with my But he was like, Oh, this is too much for me or No, I was like, I can't do this with you. You're it's too old for you.

SPEAKER_03 29:44

We tried Pixels the other day. Like Adam Sandler Pixels? No, really? With all the kids, yeah, I thought so, I thought so too. Then all of a sudden Peter Dinklinge walks on and they start making threesome jokes about him like having sex with these two women. I'm like, what the hell? No! So we we got like five minutes in.

SPEAKER_05 29:58

Did you just ex- why don't you just explain that to me?

SPEAKER_03 30:00

No, we know the oldest. The oldest one figured it out, but that's about it.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

Okay, did you guys you watch that AI preview that I sent you of the one with uh uh the Tom Cruise one? Or no? No, it was John Cena and what's his name? Uh Alan Rickson.

SPEAKER_05 30:12

Yeah, I don't think I watched that.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

You didn't watch this. Oh, what? It's so well done. It's so well done. It's entirely AI generated, and it's like a two and a half minute preview for you know that uh incident that uh Alan Rickson got into that. Is that one you sent me?

SPEAKER_03 30:25

Or it was like no, this is a bit ago, I think.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

I'll send it to you again. It was a couple months ago, or no, it was maybe a month ago. But you know how Alan Rickson got into that fight with his new. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:33

Oh no, I did. No, you're right. I did watch that. Yes. It was so good. Yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

And you would never guess it was AI generated. No, and then I watched the preview and I was thinking, I want them to make this movie.

SPEAKER_03 30:43

So that's the fear, is that so Netflix is buying up a lot of AI companies right now. And that's the fear is that you can sit in front of Netflix and it could be like CJ's like, I want to watch this type of movie, and it will generate it for you. That's the thing that they think is gonna happen. And the real tester is this new one with Val Kilmer, because Val Kilmer was in a movie and he died halfway through, and the family petitioned to have AI complete the movie. Oh, and the studio said yes. And so now there will be a Val Kilmer movie on it with I think it's 75% of his AI Val Kilmer.

SPEAKER_05 31:12

What movie is this?

SPEAKER_03 31:13

Um I don't know. It's just something like As Deep as the Grave. It's coming out this year. And this there was a big petition to stop it and stuff, and the studio said, No, fuck you, and they're doing it. So this is the fear. Like you can sit down now, which would be amazing. I want to watch Alan Richardson and John Cena be in a movie together, this type of movie, and it'll just make it.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

Yeah, I mean, it could be tough if you know, if you generated that yourself from whatever prompt, you would get a version of it that if then somebody else did the same thing with the same prompt, they'd get a different version.

SPEAKER_05 31:46

Like, I think Yeah, you can't be like, hey, do you watch that movie? Yeah. Because like, uh, I watched the version that I wanted.

SPEAKER_02 31:51

It was completely different. I'd like to see the one I've been doing, I haven't had TV for a month, so I've been reading a ton. Um, I'd like to see it where I could take, you know, like you read whatever X fiction book and then have that generated into a movie. I think that's all super cool. Right? You really can happen. Yeah, for sure it is. How could it not?

SPEAKER_03 32:09

There's no way, yeah, there's no way that won't happen.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

I don't know if we have enough compute in the world yet for that.

SPEAKER_05 32:15

When are qu what is quantum computing happening? Like I know it's like 11 years, seven months, two days.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

Oh wow, happened in Ant-Man.

SPEAKER_05 32:23

Oh, it's a good point. The quantum man.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

I don't know. Whenever your Bitcoin gets dried up, I guess. Dried up.

SPEAKER_05 32:28

I don't want it to dry up. I want it to go to the moon. Um which we didn't go to.

SPEAKER_03 32:33

I imagine in our lifetime. I did I didn't even look. Did they land?

SPEAKER_05 32:37

No, they didn't go. They weren't just looping around.

SPEAKER_03 32:39

Oh no, but are they back yet?

SPEAKER_05 32:40

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:42

And it's all fine. Dude, I lost I lost touch. I just stopped watching. I could care.

SPEAKER_05 32:46

Yes. You could care last?

SPEAKER_03 32:47

No, I watched the launch, I watched all the conspiracies, and then I just stopped. And I completely forgot about it.

SPEAKER_02 32:52

Well, JB is convinced that we didn't go to the moon.

SPEAKER_05 32:55

In 60s, yes, I am convinced.

SPEAKER_03 32:58

You think this one is real?

SPEAKER_05 32:59

I think so. I yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 33:02

I don't I think I I don't know. You probably could convince me otherwise, but I think they did this one. I but I don't think that I think this one proves that the 61 didn't happen.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

Because they because they had video in the 60s, and you don't think that was possible?

SPEAKER_05 33:16

Yeah, I don't think it was possible. Uh I don't think a lot of things are possible in the 60s that they claimed uh happened. Uh specifically the phone call from the White House to the Moon.

unknown 33:26

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 33:27

Can you ask can you ask AI what technology existed in 1969 that would allow a live phone conversation from the White House to the moon? It's just radio signals. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

Moving at the speed of radio signals. Yeah, what speed is so what speed would that happen?

SPEAKER_03 33:41

How long is that though? I don't know. Because right now they can they can send the signals now with I think it's the speed of light. Is it? I it's very close. I looked this up because I'm like, there's no way that video feed is and then all that kind of stuff, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 33:53

I mean, let's be real. In the 60s, I realized that the technology wasn't nearly as refined, but I think the foundational parts of it still existed. I think a lot of it didn't. And keep in mind, the technology that you're aware of is 10, 15 years old.

SPEAKER_05 34:08

You okay, you cannot okay, you you're just playing devil's advocate.

SPEAKER_03 34:11

There's a little bit, but it's a radio signal that they did.

SPEAKER_05 34:14

Okay, what would the delay be from the moon to the earth?

SPEAKER_03 34:17

Well, in 1969, it was a standard phone that that routed a standard telephone line through NASA's mission control, blah blah patched it, but I don't a bunch of fancy words, and then converted it to a radio signal.

SPEAKER_02 34:28

I don't think it's that complicated.

SPEAKER_03 34:29

No, I don't I like I mean it is complicated. Let's get magic box. Like it happened, we know what happened.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

I think you're getting hung up on the wrong thing here. I how dare they make a phone call.

SPEAKER_05 34:37

No, I think there's I think there's lots of hangups. That was one of them. Maybe I'm wrong. Uh and then what about like the the video from so the because do they have a ability to transfer video signal?

SPEAKER_02 34:50

I would well, I mean it's a radio signal. What's the difference? Yeah, there's just more data in there.

SPEAKER_05 34:54

So like from when so what what was videoing when they landed? Is there a rover over there videoing? You mean in the 60s? Yeah. Because there's a video of the thing landing?

SPEAKER_02 35:05

Yes, and then coming out of the presumably they put some stuff on the moon before they put people on the moon.

SPEAKER_05 35:09

So they landed, so then there's a rover with a camera. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 35:13

It's a Mesa, it's called Lunar Module Equipment Store assembly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it landed first, and they're pulled a D-ring to deploy the Mesa and allowed him to record the initial steps. So they landed that thing first, like he said, and then he pulled something out and it started the recording, and then he came down.

SPEAKER_05 35:31

And then the uh signal of the like so the actual video could be sent just like Yes, it says they're receiving stations in Australia.

SPEAKER_03 35:44

Yeah. They g they only did 10 frames a second because they wanted to limit the data, because like he said, there's more data in that radio wave. Okay, okay. Yeah, we're we're we're not the smartest people here. We're not gonna diagnose this at all. You know what? Let's just let we'll ask Netflix to make a movie about it, and then it will in front of our own eyes. I have a couple of things. What are you looking at?

SPEAKER_02 36:07

And the other one Chuck Yeager's biography, talking about all the the things they did as far as like test pilots and stuff in the 50s and 60s. And I mean it was dangerous as fuck, but they were still doing they still had technology to do some crazy shit back then.

SPEAKER_05 36:24

So the other thing that I've seen that doesn't make sense to me, and again, maybe explainable because I'm an idiot, is the uh ship going through the radiation belt where the temperatures are crazy extreme from one end to the other, and how that ships like how it would be possible given the material that they they use and all this kind of stuff. But if it can re-enter the earth, what's the difference? Uh I don't know. Because I think in the I think the heat shield on the front is different than like because they don't do that, I think, on the long along the whole ship.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

Right, but it's not gonna get hotter the further they get away from the earth.

SPEAKER_05 36:58

The apparently the van the vanilla and radiation belt, can you look up the temperature in that? This is all obviously I am regurgitating stuff from some crazy.

SPEAKER_02 37:07

Let's be real, in the vacuum of space, it's not gonna be as hot as Earth.

SPEAKER_05 37:10

What are you talking about? It's hot, there's hotter when the sun's direct, there's nothing to filter.

SPEAKER_03 37:16

Oh it's 2,000 to 20,000 Kelvin units.

SPEAKER_05 37:20

What's 20,000 Kelvin in in center grid? God, we know nothing about it.

SPEAKER_03 37:26

Convert it to C or F. C. Do you want it in C or F?

SPEAKER_02 37:29

C, please.

SPEAKER_03 37:31

A lot. 10 million C. No. That's the high estimate of where what it can be. In the in the radiation belt.

SPEAKER_05 37:40

Yes, from 2,000 to 20,000. That's what I saw.

SPEAKER_03 37:43

Yeah, the Van Allen radiation belt can range from low, like really low, to 10. The high estimate is 10 million degrees Celsius, equivalent to 10 million calories.

SPEAKER_02 37:52

At what part and at what distance from the the sun? We're we're gonna break Google or break me. I don't know what's anyway.

SPEAKER_05 38:00

Again, it doesn't matter. The point is like there's all these like questions that I just uh to me just seemed insane that they solved in the 69 in 69. And then you just add all the conspiracy stuff in it. Like the the timing, it was like necessary, they went. The you add in the fact that um like there's just all like these the other conspiracy, like the actual like motivation to get it done, and you're like, okay, this seems weird that it's just magically they all of a sudden figured it out and got it. Oh, and then the myth all the missing tape, all the missing telemetry data, all of the missing, uh, all that kind of stuff. It's just like it's so suspicious.

SPEAKER_03 38:28

So do you think the White House shooter was staged the other day, or what? What do you think?

SPEAKER_05 38:31

I haven't I don't know anything about that.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

Yeah, I was I the correspondence center. There was like someone who came in with a gun and started shooting.

SPEAKER_05 38:37

Did he kill anybody?

SPEAKER_03 38:38

No, he's like a tutor or something. Like that he was a teacher. Uh no, no, he didn't.

SPEAKER_05 38:42

Was he on a BlackRock uh commercial years ago?

SPEAKER_03 38:45

No, that'll happen. They'll they'll pull it up.

SPEAKER_02 38:47

I mean, has anybody come out and said the moon landing was fake? I mean, if they did, they'd be on Sean Ryan podcast, probably, but uh that's a good point. I I don't know. Because you again, no, like at least with the UFO thing, people you know, have said that aliens are real.

SPEAKER_05 39:03

Did you see the video I sent you about um the visualization of 2D versus 3D and 3D versus 4D, like four dimensions? No, where'd you send it? Uh Instagram. Oh, that's why I didn't see it. So there's there's this video I saw on Instagram where it showed like it it blew my mind because it shows in like visual how if someone can only view 2D, what a 3D object coming into their view would look like. And then also if you're if you're from like for us, like we live in this three-dimensional world. If there was a four-dimensional thing that kind of came into our view and then left our view, what it would look like to people in and then you're like, oh you're like that's aliens. Like it's really interesting. And then I'm like, what the what's the pot what's the chances that like there's four-dimensional beings on this planet? Seven percent good number. Anyway, it it was such a cool video because like it's really hard to visualize that kind of stuff, or to think like how does that what does that mean? And it just should it showed like a sphere coming across uh the plane of like a 2D person from a three-dimensional, and then what it what they saw, and essentially like a line and then nothing, or then it showed a square that was spinning, and then as it came across their their view, it like it looks like it's morphing, but it's only because you can only see portions of it. It's such a it was a cool uh visualization. But that made me start thinking like maybe some of the stuff we just are we see or we attribute to like ghosts or UFOs or some sort of weird four-dimensional thing that comes in and out of our existence for a second.

SPEAKER_02 40:39

Yeah, like there's gonna be a lot of stuff we don't understand, of course, obviously. But to say, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 40:45

I must I I I want to think there is, it's just that's where my brain starts hurting. Well, there's no and there's no in the end we can't have another dimension or another another layer to life that we don't see. I believe there probably is, but I just but then my brain just like can't, you know. I like because it you only know what you know.

SPEAKER_05 41:00

I agree, and in the end, like it's just fun to think about, like that I'm not dying on a hill, like it I don't care in that that much in the long run. I well I think it's interesting. I I care because it's interesting, like I just think it's an interesting idea. I don't care as in like yeah, it yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

I don't know. Give it 20 years and I think we'll we'll have a better idea.

SPEAKER_05 41:20

Do you think so?

SPEAKER_02 41:21

At the rate things are advancing, oh yeah, everything's going so fast.

SPEAKER_05 41:24

But I I don't know if we will because I think especially the way that our governments are going, there's a there'll be more censorship and you won't you won't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_03 41:32

Well, I I guess.

SPEAKER_05 41:33

Unless unless the internet becomes such a thing that's like uh an AI just becomes like, ah, we're gonna tell them everything and you can't stop us.

SPEAKER_03 41:39

But you guys follow the White House on Instagram? No, no, you guys should. I'm the best videos every year.

SPEAKER_02 41:47

Haven't watched any American politics. I'm so disillusioned these days with I don't know. How do I say like I wasn't if I was in the States at election time, I would have voted for Trump. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Based on the things he said.

SPEAKER_03 42:02

At this point on the second goal, yes, yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 42:05

At this point, I don't know. We're all just getting cucked. Yeah. Like, what the fuck are we doing?

SPEAKER_03 42:12

In in 20 years, like you said, there's gonna be so much information about I guarantee, like backroom deals, insider trading, all that kind of stuff that's happening right now.

SPEAKER_02 42:19

How can you run on a platform? This is taking a left turn, but how can you run on a platform saying no more wars and then just start wars left, right, and center? I love it. Like, is that not the whole thing everybody wanted? Was like, hey, let's have some adults in the room and say we don't need to keep invading countries.

SPEAKER_03 42:32

There there was a I think it was John Ryan podcast where he had an ex Oh man, it was a guy who spoke out and he was working for Homeland Security. Yeah, yeah. I it's on my list, I gotta listen to it, but he said, like, don't go, this is not pointless. We're not fighting Iran, they're not trying to attack us, what are we doing? And then he was let go. Yeah. And uh I want to listen to that, but I don't at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 42:54

If I had an abundance of like if I had unlimited free time, I would listen to all of Sean Ryan's dudes because they're so interesting.

SPEAKER_05 42:59

They are, they really are.

SPEAKER_02 43:00

I just don't have time.

SPEAKER_05 43:01

Yeah, same.

SPEAKER_02 43:02

I haven't listened to a podcast in a while, but I just want to live in a world where people just stop. Like, I think I and maybe I'm like quite romanticizing this, but I'd like to believe that if a couple adults got together and like one adult from the from the Western world went to the other adult from the Iranians and said, Hey, do you want to stop blowing each other up?

SPEAKER_05 43:21

No, but I think you're wrong, but I think you're wrong about that. And the reason is because again, we're talking about an ideology that the uh Iranian government is running under, and they I'm not saying that we should be going to war with them at all. Well, I don't know if I'm saying that. But you talk to people from that region, uh, a guy who is the head of our organization for one, um, and other people, and it's it's the government there is Islamic and not just Islamic, but they're like the far end of it. Right, they're idealistic. They're ideology that's uh you can't reason someone out of an ideology um necessarily. So it's it's not as simple as that. You can't it's this is that's where like this like rational conversation, like hey man, this is silly, why are we doing this? That it doesn't matter to them because they were they have this uh idea that they're supposed to be doing something a certain way. And but what is that idea?

SPEAKER_02 44:14

Like I and I get okay, I get it that that those idea ideologues, you know, it results in things happening to the population that are bad and whatever, but at the at the base of it, could you not say, hey, we are our own country with our own things far, far away? All we want to do is just exist and trade and like do our own shit. You do what you need to do, and we'll trade with you.

SPEAKER_05 44:37

I'm not wrong I I don't disagree, but the problem is at what point do you see another country uh essentially committing genocide and like so Germany, World War II? What at what point do you decide that we something needs to be done and stepped in in order to help other people? And I and I don't know the answer to that question.

SPEAKER_03 44:56

When they invade other countries, yeah. Like that that was kind of was that when it turned? When they started to push their boundaries and invade? I don't know, but let's just back up. I'm not at that age at where I follow World War II history. I'm like two years away, but I'm gonna get it.

SPEAKER_05 45:10

I don't know, I don't know yet. But let's back up a second. So you uh if are you saying, or do you think that if they Germany never invaded another country, uh, but somehow there was a very extremely large Jewish population in Germany that they were exterminating in mass amounts that anyone, no one in the world should have stepped in and tried to stop it?

SPEAKER_03 45:30

Tons of genocide in like African countries and all that kind of stuff that we haven't done anything about to South Africa right now, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:35

Uh I'm sure there's other places that I'm just not educated enough to know about, but like, could you not do other things? And again, I guess this maybe leads to war, like economic sanctions and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

Yeah, I don't I don't know the answer either, but like, and I agree that that's the annoying part.

SPEAKER_03 45:48

Did we just finish that Black Hawk Down documentary where they interview the both sides of the story type thing? Have you watched that one? No, I haven't. This is the best documentary I have seen. Because they interview people from Mogadishu that were just civilians in the town, and then they interview like the soldiers who were fighting against the Americans and all the Americans and all that kind of stuff. It's three episodes, like just watch it. It is that's it, that's it. You'll cry. You'll cry 100%. You no, you will in the end, because my wife and I both did. Um, but then that was that's what what happened there is because the Americans got involved because there was a little bit of a genocide happening and it turned into a massive thing. And I didn't know this, but the Americans lost and then withdrew after Blackhawk Down. Like, I didn't know any of these facts, and so that was one where I'm like, well, what and all the civilians that were in there did not want the Americans there. Even though all this bad stuff was happening, they wanted them out, and even though there's a genocide happening and people getting killed, they just didn't want them involved. And I never thought about that at all. I just thought they were just always the good guys.

SPEAKER_05 46:43

Well, that's because that's what we're we've always been told of being on this side of the world.

SPEAKER_03 46:46

Yeah, so what are they getting fed in?

SPEAKER_05 46:47

Well, and I don't know, but like and that's the thing is like you look at these things and you see you what we're being told, or were the things that we've seen. I've seen both sides, but you've seen like all the Iranians that are happy that the Americans are coming in, or like the and the true Iranians, the ones who aren't like who were there prior to the Islamic guys coming in and essentially taking over the government, changing the flag, changing the anthem, all the things they did. Um the the original people are like happy that they're finally someone's finally doing something about it. And again, I am an idiot about this. I don't know. I just talked to a couple people who um actually lived in that region um and know a bit about it, and it's it's so complicated. But I don't I don't know the answer. That like do we just everyone's on their own and good luck with your country? And if you do some stuff and keep it in your own country, we're not gonna step in. Don't touch our stuff. We don't have to be.

SPEAKER_02 47:35

But if your country is so prosperous because capitalism is still better than any of the alternatives thus far, can you not influence these other places to be like, hey, you know, we have all these economic things, we have all like we're just super prosperous. If you want to join us, you need to do these things to be a part of the prosperity. Or we'll shut down your trade.

SPEAKER_05 47:56

Sure, but so uh on the uh but on the other side of it, again, if you know the if you know the ideology that you're dealing with and you understand that their ultimate goal is to have this like uh caliphate or essentially this Islamic rule throughout the world, um, and you're you know that they're developing nuclear and again, I don't know if they are, this could all be propaganda, but you you know that they're developing some technology that's gonna allow them to uh because they hate you, they hate you because of your beliefs, they hate you because of whatever, and ultimately they will likely bomb you based on their ideology or try to kill you all.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

I fuck, I don't know. Maybe I I literally this podcast is talking about shit we don't know anything about. That's what we do. It's Biden's fault, whatever. I don't know, because I I also think like how can how can you hate somebody oh fuck this is a stupid question because I already know the answer to this. But if you hate somebody so much that you just want to kill them based on their just the fact that they exist.

SPEAKER_05 48:57

That happens a lot.

SPEAKER_02 48:59

Yeah. Um but where did that like so presumably let's say it's like the Islamic religion versus the Christian religion. At some point, can they not just be like, hey, like we could coexist? Dude, that's not a good question.

SPEAKER_05 49:14

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_03 49:15

No, no, no, no, no. When I said it is, I mean that's it that's an obvious question.

SPEAKER_05 49:19

But it's been a question for thousands of years. Like there's no here's our space. It doesn't work because at some point the space ends up becoming close, and then the again the ideology does not allow them to allow these people to live peacefully without some intervention or some uh but again, does that come back to religion or does that come back to resources?

SPEAKER_02 49:38

Because if you have sufficient resources to live in your space with your religion, that's a good point. I don't know. Why would you because I think uh God, I wish I I wish I was more into history and understanding things. But like if you had all the resources you need, you'd never need to expand your boundaries, and then you can just do it.

SPEAKER_05 49:54

But they won't, but that's the thing, is that they don't or they wouldn't eventually because uh again, based on ideology and other reasons, they want to have as many kids as they possibly can, right? So then all of a sudden their population gets uh you know, explodes because they're having six kids each or something, and then in ten years they don't have the resources that they need.

SPEAKER_02 50:13

Listen, if you are listening to this podcast and you know anything about geopolitics, please come on and educate us because we don't know shit.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

Like they they want to create like a area of land, like a like a strip of land that where you just you do your own thing and we'll do our own thing and you just stay in this strip of land. Like the Gaza strip. They like none of this.

SPEAKER_02 50:33

But again, that was based on religion.

SPEAKER_03 50:35

Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, but that's all it's based on over there. But that's what it's but yeah, that's the majority of their beliefs.

SPEAKER_05 50:40

That's what it's based on over there.

SPEAKER_03 50:41

Like there's and again, like that if we're a small scale, like if if we have a problem with each other, I'd be like, hey, and we talk it out and we're good. And and that's how we move forward. But if you get massive amounts of people involved.

SPEAKER_05 50:51

No, but that's not only it, you don't have opposing ideologies about life and about about why you're doing things and the point of why you're doing things, and the that's that's the thing, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 51:02

That matches up for all of us, I feel sure.

SPEAKER_05 51:04

Like you you don't you don't have fundamental dis disagreement about why we exist and all the things you're supposed to do based on your belief. So when you have those like literal differences that are the foundation of your being, it is not you can't just have a regular conversation like this necessarily and say, hey, this is why I think we should do this, and like that doesn't because you have no base of an argument. Yeah, and it that's that's a problem, right? And that's why it's hard to have a conversation, a rational conversation about l almost anything with somebody you fundamentally disagree with on like your DNA level. You know what I mean? It's just it's just not it's not doable.

SPEAKER_03 51:48

We just can't control it.

SPEAKER_05 51:49

And in the end, listen, it's just it it is it is really it is on a religious, like an ideological ideological spectrum, but we all know, and I just want to be clear, we all know that there's people in every ideology who are awesome and who who can get along with the other people because they're fine with people living their lives, but it's the the like extreme sides of things that always are causing the issues. Unfortunately, that's a larger portion of people when you're talking about um you know a billion people who believe in an ideology, even if one percent of them are shitty, that's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_03 52:21

Yeah, you make some good points.

SPEAKER_02 52:23

Yeah, we feel like I don't want to have a smart person on here because I feel like you listen to podcasts where people actually know what they're talking about, or at least are more educated to be able to have conversations about it. Like 0.75 to one speed I do so I can keep it. But this is why I also don't waste my time watching the news. Because it's just too complicated, it's too nuanced to form an opinion based on it.

SPEAKER_05 52:44

Well, and it's it's bought and bought and paid for, and it's got a slant for sure.

SPEAKER_02 52:48

You know, and perhaps that's why I'm always so you know, my parents always have the fucking news on them. Just like turn it off because it's not adding any value.

SPEAKER_05 52:56

I get I I like it, like I have a reaction to watching the ticker on the bottom of like CNN or Fox or whichever one, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 53:04

It's the text message, no context version of the news. It totally is. Just words and just here's your 30-word screen. It makes me angry. I have to turn it off. And then if your parents like say, Oh, did you read about that? Did you hear about it? And they point at it. I'm like, I don't don't know.

SPEAKER_05 53:17

Which side, which news or what did your parents watch?

SPEAKER_02 53:19

CTV. Oh, yeah. Like the same CNN or Western Canadian Fox.

SPEAKER_03 53:23

No, it's they're the CTV, my parents. CTV, CBC, Sandy Warner. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

I don't know. I don't care. I do care, but I just don't care enough to flood my mental space with it. There's just too much stuff going on. That's the problem, too. We're all overloaded. Well, that's like I got a text from my parents yesterday. Hey, did you hear what happened at the White House? No. No, no. I I was busy all day living my life. So I and the other thing about with us.

SPEAKER_03 53:49

If you do watch the White House videos, it is kind of cool because you see their close protection do what they're supposed to do. And in because a lot of people in the actual convention were filming and stuff. And some of the stuff they did, I'm like, oh, these got like very high-level people protecting. It was that wasn't the neat part to watch.

SPEAKER_05 54:04

Um it's weird how also we get sucked into like a country that isn't ours in terms of like the politics stuff, and then we kind of ignore or we just we just don't pay attention as much to ours, I think.

SPEAKER_03 54:14

Oh yeah. Well ours is ours is kind of boring sometimes.

SPEAKER_05 54:17

At the moment, we're like this this carny majority government is gonna be interesting. Is it? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

Like, is it it's not gonna be any worse than it was the last eight years? Yeah, it will be. You think it's gonna be worse?

SPEAKER_05 54:30

Yes. Why? Because now they can push through decisions without uh having like opposition essentially. It's the same as the last eight years.

SPEAKER_02 54:36

No, because they were No, though the NDP would be. Yeah, I saw that. That was that that girl.

SPEAKER_05 54:58

It's good. I hope it and I hope it works because that's since that's absolutely. You didn't elect them for yeah, exactly. Yeah, we elected you from in the conservative government, you've switched to this, and I don't know what I don't have no idea anything about the lawsuit, but I know they're being sued. And I I think that that's necessary because that's insanity. If you it's not democracy. That's exactly it. You've so you tell us, and we've talked about this before, where all you everyone should go out and vote, your vote matters. It doesn't. No, it just doesn't. They've just showed us, well, it never did, I don't think, to be honest, but now it shows us that it absolutely doesn't matter because the person that you voted for, if they just switch to the other party because they because of some incentive that they're getting that they're not telling us about, um, all that however many thousand votes that voted for that person from the conservative side is literally wiped off. It does not matter. You now they're now liberal, and now you're on that side of the it doesn't matter. That's the that's the way it went, but it could go the other way as well. It just shouldn't be allowed. So if you no longer agree with the conservative policies and you want to quit, that's your option. You quit. You don't get to jump to the other side of the house. Yeah. Did that happen in the states? I don't know. I don't think it could.

SPEAKER_03 55:57

No, but when they do their votes, they can have like Democratic this last one they had, them a couple of Democrats voted with the Republicans. Right. You can vote And so that that's kind of I think it's different where you don't have to be a party representative, it's just on a vote of everybody as opposed to nobody like from like a like a local level.

SPEAKER_05 56:11

If you get voted in as a Democratic. Oh no, yeah, I see what you're doing. Can you switch to Republican?

SPEAKER_02 56:15

And I don't think you can, but you can also do the same thing in Canada. You can vote for the bills however you see fit. Yeah. That's why exactly. Like that's why they have um what was that show with Kevin Spacey?

SPEAKER_05 56:25

Uh West, no, um, it was a good show.

SPEAKER_03 56:27

Oh, House of Cards. House of Cards, right? That's why they have the party whip. The whip? Yeah. That's to make yes. I learned so much from that show. That was great before Kevin Spacey had that in our politics too, right?

SPEAKER_02 56:36

Like each party has their whip uh to make people vote in a certain way. Okay. Which is interesting.

SPEAKER_05 56:42

If you're one of those politicians and listening to this, you should have quit. Like if you didn't agree with the policies, I don't care. Like, that's fine. You've changed your mind. Have a spine. Everyone, everyone has the option to change their mind and disagree with the party that they're currently with, but then your option is quit. It's not switch to the other side of the house and screw over the hundred thousand people that voted for you.

SPEAKER_02 57:03

And this would be one of the things where I think it needs to go to some type of court level discussion. Of course it is, yeah. You can't do this. Oh, it'll have to be high-level democratic.

SPEAKER_05 57:10

But obviously, there's something, some provision. Again, we're morons, I don't know. There's got to be some provision that allowed it. Otherwise, they couldn't have done it. So something allowed them to do it and get away with it.

SPEAKER_02 57:20

Yeah, it should it should trigger a by-election in the place where you were elected.

SPEAKER_05 57:24

Completely. But and you shouldn't run anymore. Like you're gone. Well, you could you could run as the other party.

SPEAKER_02 57:28

Sure, you could run as the other party. And if everybody in your area votes for you as like for the majority, knowing that you're backing that party. Yeah, sure. Um, but that's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 57:37

No, because it makes sense. It'll be you know, can't it just be another adult going to another adult saying, hey, it'll be interesting to see what that happens with this lawsuit.

SPEAKER_05 57:45

I hope it's success successful because I think it's a good precedent, but we'll see. I'm moving to the moon.

SPEAKER_03 57:50

Cool. I do you ever just think about that though?

SPEAKER_05 57:52

Not the moon because we can't go there because it's not watch, watch the Madison and then go buy a cabin on a river in southern Alberta. I'm quite happy with the direction our province is going.

SPEAKER_02 58:02

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:03

I so far like to be independent?

SPEAKER_02 58:05

Well, not necessarily. Uh well, it's not up yet. I know there's a referendum happening. I don't know what it's about. Yeah. Uh daylight savings time. Yeah, except they're picking the wrong one.

SPEAKER_03 58:17

Yeah. Why why are they picking that one? Yeah. Let's have the sun rays later in the day.

SPEAKER_05 58:22

I didn't I haven't seen what they're doing. Well, they're not.

SPEAKER_03 58:25

No, they're not picking, like, they're not picking the first, like, they're not picking the Saskatchewan one, they're picking the opposite of that one. Yeah, they're two hours now.

SPEAKER_02 58:32

We're staying on daylight savings time, okay. Which means the sun will rise later and set later, which science says not a good idea. Yeah, but like, so summer will be up to like 11 o'clock and the sun will still be bright? Sure. Essentially, yeah. But in winter, the sun won't rise until 9 a.m. 10 a.m. It'll be like 30 days of night with the vampires come. Oh, yes. But if you want to be healthy, science says get sunlight in your eyes immediately upon waking up and behole. And he's got a either before behole. You can't send your beehole at 10 a.m.

SPEAKER_03 59:05

Oh, I guess it does. Yeah. Just like alcohol.

unknown 59:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:08

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:08

You can put it in your eyes, you can put in your beehole. But it's so dumb. I was I was so confused about why that is. Oh, it's it's it's stupid. But other than that, I'm really interested to see what this referendum's about. Yeah, I haven't paid attention. I don't think the referendum's about daylight savings. Like that is happening.

SPEAKER_03 59:22

I think I think the separation got stalled because of uh the appeal from I think the indigenous communities put the appeal in that it's it's violating all the treaties and all that kind of stuff. So that that got stalled, right? And so I don't think that that's even moving forward. So I don't know what the I thought the referendum was just daylight savings. Well, I could Google it. You could Google it. Let's Google it. We're here to talk politics. Yes, because we know so much.

SPEAKER_05 59:45

Okay, Google it. I I would I definitely need to uh learn more about it before I'd have uh have a vote in that. But sending your people? No, about the referendum and the separation and what that would entail. Oh, nine questions. Okay, what are they?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:01

Do you support Governor Berta taking oh they're they're really long. We could just take uh a lot of time up above a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

Well summarize them.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:06

Okay. Uh well I gotta read them first, so you guys vamp. Oh, read them. What'd you say? Vamp. It's like it's like when you fill in time with words. No, it's you fill in time with words. It's not like uh music.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:17

It's like a Gen X word, hey, Gen Z word. No, it's it's like a 19 vampire.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:22

It's like a 1940s word because in old talk shows they had to vamp, so they had to play music while they transitioned between stuff like that because they didn't have quick copies.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

So would vamping just be me and JB talking about unrelated things?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:31

Yeah, that's what this podcast is.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:32

So on another note, are you ever gonna drink that Smirnov ice on your account on your shelf?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:37

That was a gift from Tanner, who we should have back on. Yep. His schedule. Are we still feuding with their uh I didn't think we were in a feud. Were we in a feud?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:46

I don't know. I he gives hints of feud. He wants a little bit of a rivalry.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:49

He does, but they are much more consistent than we are at this point in time.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:52

And they do they do notes and they're not gonna be a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:54

Well, yeah, they're prepared. Here's the thing though. In January, on January 1st, we said we were gonna do two podcasts a month to get to 26 podcasts in a year, which has been our standard. Okay. It's essentially May, and I want to say this is is this number four for the month? Maybe this is four. Maybe. Yeah, we're killing it. Killing it. Killing it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:13

No explain. So you got the proof of citizenship on the uh Alberta IDs.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:17

So raise your hand if you support these motions.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:20

No one can see this, so we can do whatever we want.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:21

Uh okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:22

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:23

That was uh an unanimous yes. I'm just gonna tell them about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:27

Do you support uh government of Alberta working with other governments uh to amend the Canadian Constitution to have provincial governments, not federal governments, select the justices appointed to the provincial. Oh, yeah, that hands. That's a unanimous yes. Yeah, I didn't just finish that one. Do you support government of Alberta working with the government or other willing provinces to amend the Constitution to abolish unelected federal Senate? That's a I don't know what that means.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:48

Yeah, yeah, because senators are just are just picked.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:52

Unelected federal senate. So you're saying we want senators voted in.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:57

Yeah, like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:59

Two out of three hands there. Protect oh, I'm just reading the other one. Provincial rights and from federal interference by giving provinces laws dealing with provincial and shared areas of what? Oh, do you do you want the ability for the province to supersede the Canadian laws and make their own laws? Yeah, that's that's pretty obvious.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:18

That was a unanimous yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:20

Is there something about uh um reform like justice reform in the in this question?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:25

There's uh there's a lot of words. Well, I think the appointing justices.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:28

Yeah, I think would uh Okay, but the problem with that is uh the whatever the current government is in, that could be good or really bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:36

Why no, did it not say change it to elected justices? Oh, okay. And that's a no-brainer.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:40

Assuming that all Canadian citizens of permanent residents continue to qualify for public health care and education as they do now, do you support the government of Alberta charging a reasonable fee or premium to the individual with a non-permanent immigration status living in Alberta for their family's health care and education systems? Oh these are Yeah, these are easy to answer for us, I think. Do you support Government Alberta introducing a law requiring individuals to provide proof of citizenship such as passports, versus citizenship cards? Oh, to vote in a provincial election. Yeah, that makes duh sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:16

Okay. Is there anything in there about firearms?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:19

Then there's a bunch, no, there's not. There's a bunch of non-constitutional questions too, but they're not uh I love I love uh seeing these are the very Alberta first questions, like very Alberta first questions.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:31

I love seeing in the States when like the the politicians who who are saying they don't uh think that there should be voter ID, how they just contradict themselves and something absolutely stupid when they go like, okay, we're running a we're doing a rally, uh, but in order for you to get into the building, we need to see two forms of ID. And they're the ones oh that's happened like so many times where like the politician has like a like some sort of rally in like a giant building, but they want they they ID people to get in, but they are opposing ID voter ID. Okay, like a lot of these California politicians where they're saying, Oh, yeah, you don't need ID. Uh that Nick Shirley guy has a really good podcast uh uh YouTube video about the fraud in in California. He did Minnesota with those stay home guy? Yeah, yeah. So he did Minnesota, then he went to California, and it's worse, and he did voter fraud, and he did um hospices. Apparently, there's like an insane fraud in California with like these hospices, like these like long-term care for care facilities for adults where they have like a room this size that registered as a hospice, getting millions of dollars a year with nobody not nobody in it.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:36

Do you remember when Vice used to be like actual Vice? Yeah, yeah, like the actual Vice when it was the independent like journalism, and I was just hooked up.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:43

No, there's some good shows that they did back then.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:45

This guy is kind of like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:46

Yeah, he's really good. And uh he he was on he was on Sean Ryan. I listened to part of that, and he was talking about the death threats he got, he's been getting from uh Minnesota, from the Sudanese people, and then from uh he got a his mother got a call from some Russians. Noof. This is uh oof. Crazy. It's uh yeah, interesting stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:09

I mean, I support the notion that we should just prioritize what's best for the province.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:15

Especially when it comes to the justice system. There's been a few uh recent justice decisions, both in Alberta and countrywide, that have made me want to put my head through drywall. Like just blood-boiling decisions about child victims of crime, of serious sexual offenses, one locally, that is just so aggravating. I don't even want to talk about it, but here we are.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:40

How d how do those justices not get held responsible for when those people go commit a crime right away and and re-revictimize somebody else?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

Or just the victimization that has already occurred to these victims.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:51

Sure, I agree.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:52

Um I don't know how you can look at yourself in the mirror at the end of the day if you were that justice and

SPEAKER_03 1:06:00

Um I don't know if I want to get into this right now, but the only thing is like they they can't be held and this you're gonna lose your mind. They can't be held responsible for someone's behavior after they were released. This is the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:16

Yeah, I think they can.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:18

I I know, but the same way that like a police officer can't be held if they're 99% there on an arrest, but they can't make that extra 1% bump. You can't be held responsible for that person's behavior if you don't sure. You know what I mean? Like it's it's like a pre-crime. What's that movie with the the balls? Minority report. Like if you have on a grander scale than the justice system.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:40

Who has a mile-long record of doing a behavior, you ought to consider the fact that they're probably going to continue doing this behavior behavior, and you have an obligation to protect everybody else. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:53

100%.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:54

The justice system is designed to protect the offenders, not the victims.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:00

Yeah, it's it's it's oh, you're 100% right. The Landlord Tenant Act is for protecting the renters, not the landlord. And the same with the justice systems, they're protecting the offenders. 100%.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:09

Yeah, it's it's backwards.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:11

It's uh and I I wish it was the other way around because there would be so much less crime if we could action-predictable offenses.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:19

Consequences. If there's consequences to actions, like with your children, you you say, hey, if you do this thing, I'm taking away this thing, and then you never take it away. Guess what? Nothing changes.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:29

But if you actually follow through with consequences, then ideally they see that this behavior caused this thing to happen. I didn't like that thing, so let's stop doing that behavior. That's it's pretty simple.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:40

But if you can't stop doing that behavior, you ought to be put somewhere where that behavior doesn't affect people. Exactly. The ground. No Jays and I get the premise, you know, the foundation of the justice system that uh no innocent person shall go to jail, and they'd rather let a hundred guilty people walk for free than put one innocent person in jail. I get that.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:01

But holy fuck. But it it is super frustrating. And I I think even used to be, I feel it used to be people used to blame like the frontline justice, like the police officers, all that kind of stuff. Now it has. People are very supportive, and now they're blaming the justice system and they understand the limitations.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:19

But I think that's transparency. I think that's where it's like, hey, hey, we went and arrested this guy 17 times. I don't know what to tell you. Like we did the thing we we did the thing that we are allowed to do, we are allowed to do this thing. We took him off the street, we put him over here. Hey, um what we have no other option to do anything else other than that portion of it, and then after that, it goes over there, and that's we can't control that.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:42

We are we're just the waiter bringing out the food to the people. We can't let the cook. Yeah, the cook is the justices.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:47

And I mean, roundabout way, I guess if you're listening to this podcast and you don't aren't familiar with the things we're talking about, consider how having an elected justice may address some of these because then their track record would lend toward them getting elected or re-elected.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:01

Is it kind of similar to like a sheriff in this like for a sheriff for a county in the state where they elect, they elect them and then they it would that sheriff has to work for their votes continually every single year and try you know what I mean? Yeah, and I think in the states, at the state level, that's not a judges are appointed are elected.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:15

I think at the federal level, judges are appointed in the states. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:19

But um they they're 100% elected in counties in the states. Yes, yeah, and so and that's a that's a great thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:25

Again, if you are a justice who is unreasonably lenient or makes decisions that everybody just causes everybody to scratch their head, you should have your career hang in the balance there. Completely.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:39

The only downside of that I think is the I cause I like elected judges. I really like elected judges, but the only downside of that is then you have people trying to make a name for themselves to continue their and the greed comes into play, all that kind of stuff. And then that's the human nature fucks it up, and and that's the worst part about it because I love elected judges. I like honestly, elected sheriffs, like that kind of structure I like. But then the greed fucks it up, and then the human nature messes it up because they want to stay relevant.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:07

Well, and there's always comical stories in the states, you know, of elected sheriffs doing just wild shit, yeah, right to to be elected, to stay elected, or they stay in power for so long and they're corrupt as fuck. I mean, you're never gonna get away from corruption, you're never gonna get away from the incentive of you know, the human incentive of power, money, whatever, right? Like that's we are so incredibly flawed. Um, but I think there's better ways to go about some of this. Yeah, they made a TV show about it. Oh, it's called The Madison.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:32

No, Simplicity. No, that one's called Justified. You ever see that? Oh, yes, yes, that's the sheriff. He like kills three people per episode of it.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:40

Yes, he does. He gets elected, gets elected.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:45

No, he's a yeah, he's a sheriff. I can't remember. It doesn't matter. It's a good show.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:49

What's that one where he comes back and he's like a he's got the slicked hair with the tattoo on his neck? Ah he was uh he was like a Nazi The Banshee. Oh yes, so good. Such a good show.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:58

That was a I actually it's on my list to rewatch. Was he a no no the deputy was a Nazi.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:03

Yes, the deputy was the Nazi. But the sheriff was like a criminal.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:05

The sheriff was a criminal who day one he shows up to this town at a bar having a conversation with a guy who was supposed to be the brand new sheriff coming to town to like to clean things up. He gets murdered in front of him at the bar by these gangbangers, and nobody knows what this guy's supposed to look like. So he takes his identity and becomes the sheriff in that town.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:24

Because you had a banshee look for a while too. You had that hair. You remember the hair that you had?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:28

You're talking about the dude. Yeah, so I think the second guy I liked it. I was like, I should try to do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:32

I think you look good like that, honestly. I did.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:34

So then, like a couple seasons in, there's this guy who used to be a Nazi, he's got Nazi tattoos everywhere. Yeah, he has a slick back. It looks pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:42

You would you want it to be him? Besides the Nazi stuff, you want to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:46

I would say his haircut was more fury than Banshee. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:49

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:50

I I honestly, the reason I I don't do that is I can never find the hair product to like make it stay. Oh, like to Yeah, like it always drives me crazy. I if I could if I could find some hair stuff that I like that made it work, I would try it again.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:03

Dude, I've been going to a barber that uh when they finish your haircut, they shave your neck with a straight razor. Oh yeah. I was like, Oh, it's so good.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:10

Does it last like longer than just me doing it in my sink? Like, is that the reason, or is it just yeah, I think so. Like I've never had a straight.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:17

This is like four or five days, and there's it's still nice and like uh I've never had like a straight for it. Did you switch barbers?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:23

Like your haircut has been pretty nice the last little while.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:25

Thank you. I appreciate that. Uh I switched barbers four months ago, maybe. Okay, yeah. Yeah, I've noticed. I appreciate that. The problem is my hair grows so long, it's like week four or five, I still look okay, and then like week six I look like a fucking Q-tip.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:39

Okay. Q-tips. You're not supposed to go in your ears, people.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:43

Yeah, you are. No, they're not. Q-tips are not supposed to go in your ears, but that's all people use them for. I jam that thing to touch in the eardrum. It's not good to shove things in your ear hole.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:51

You know how satisfying it is when you can hear like the liquid moving?

SPEAKER_05 1:12:55

I'm just saying they're not supposed to go in your ears. How are you supposed to clean your ears?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:58

I don't know. The outside?

SPEAKER_05 1:12:59

Uh I don't know what they're for, but like q-tips aren't supposed to go in your ears. They're lips.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:02

Nothing's supposed to go in your ears.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:03

They're not.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:04

Earplugs go in your ears.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:06

I saw you, I saw you reach for your phone, I'll do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:10

How do you clean your ears? I I must say I do it, but I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:13

You're not supposed to clean your inner ear, it's supposed to like dry up and then fall out the wax. You're supposed to clean your outer ear with a q-tip, I think, like the the vinyl.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:20

Why didn't nobody tell me that 37 degrees? Because it's so satisfying. You jam wax further into your ear by doing it. You think you're getting it out, but you're shoving it in because I rotate as we go in. Okay, that stops it from going in.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:30

I think there's like a water machine. There's something you can do, but it says yeah, like a navage for your ear. He's right. You're just not supposed to do it. You know, there's a there's plungers and things you can get.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:39

What about that wax thing? The thing you stick in your ear and the fire somehow. Yeah, candling. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:44

Yeah, candling, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:45

You can pay people to do that. I've never done that. I mean, you can pay people to do anything, but that's just one of them. That's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:49

You can use softeners, which I've had to do before, like uh hard blocked blocked up ear wax in your ear because of a Q-tip going in and pressing the wax in. Exactly. Um, and then you had to soften it out, and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:58

Maybe I should try and get my ears candled. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:01

Maybe that feels nice. Maybe it feels nice. Go buy go to Amazon and buy like a little ear cleaner thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:06

I thought you just put a candle, like a birthday candle.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:08

No, it's like water, you can do water like thing that you um it like pull pushes water in your ear, which might feel weird. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:14

No, I had to do that in Mexico when I had uh it was just like blocked.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:17

And so the Was there like a bug in there?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:19

No, no, it was like the wax from me pushing my Q-tip into my ear. And then uh the seawater and stuff formed like a little plug in my ear, and I had to do that while like like pinching my nose and trying to gross. You know, it and it which I tell you what, it felt amazing.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:33

Yeah, did it pop out of there and then you could hear?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:36

Yeah, I could hear, and I probably heard better than I did in my entire life. It was like super human.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:39

Was it like a giant thing that fell out?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:41

It was gross. Yeah, it was pretty bad. But then I know I stuck a Q-tip in there, and it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:47

I need to revisit my ear cleaning.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:49

Yeah, I gotta get a water pick. That's what I want to buy. That's my next purchase, I think. Yeah, I because I do the picks, the things, but I'm I'm finding that I need more toothpicks than I normally did a couple years ago. Like after I eat and stuff, I'm a Yeah. Yeah. And I asked someone to work the other day for a toothpick, and they made fun of me because they're like, what am I? 50? I'm like, close. I need a freaking topic. Yeah, I need a freaking toothpick. And it was one of the guys we talked about before who's almost 50. Not almost 50, he's like 40. Are you a toothpicker after you eat?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:19

Uh no. I don't know. I don't like the feeling of a toothpick, but you know the flossers.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:23

Oh, yeah, the pointy part. Yeah, that's the sad. That's that's the Q tip for the mouth.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:27

I wonder if it so here's the thing though, I because I like I'll I'll like flosser pick, you know, after I eat. Yeah, because I like having like clean teeth.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:33

I like I like the motion just picking it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:35

Yeah, just like that. But I I can imagine if you're like the person around watching somebody do that, you're like, oh motherfucker, why are you doing that?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:41

Well, especially that we're driving essentially the same vehicle now the majority of the time, you and me, and I'm gonna be just leaving flowers. Josser picked flosser in against the steering wheels in the way.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:49

I'm gonna jab it in your eye holes. Uh I just got a thing pop up my um watch about my screen time last week. What's yours? Oh, buddy, you don't I'm not gonna my weekly so my weekly uh report last week was four hours and eighteen minutes.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:06

See, I'm I'm a 422, but one hour a day, I use YouTube for music in the gym. Yeah. So I'm I'm about I'm a low threes, I feel without that, because I don't watch it. I just use it for the music, just to select songs. Last week's average, four hours thirty seven minutes.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:19

Powerball about the same.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:20

All right, well let's let's bring that down by next time we meet to a three to a three thirty. We can do three thirty.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:27

However, I will say if I go down for last week to the most used categories, category number one, Kindle, six hours twenty-nine minutes. Facebook, three hours fourteen minutes. What the fuck am I doing on Facebook? Market Marketplace. Gemini, two hours, Safari, two hours, messages hour and a half, YouTube hour and a half, mail, one hour. What the I look mail? Yeah, you're mail. WhatsApp, Spotify, clock, 38 minutes on the clock. What? What? I think it's when I'm timing my workouts.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:57

I got a lot of realtor on here. What do you why are you looking at realtor? I just I just because of shows like that when you watch.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:07

I'm trying to find should I vamp while we do this? Yeah, vamp away. I'm just trying to find my beatbox.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:12

Oof. I gotta delete TikTok again.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:15

Bro, how do I go to last week? You just won the day you swipe left, I think, to the week. You why why do you keep putting it on your phone?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:23

Because I missed it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:24

Just delete it right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:25

This is not hard. I will, I will. It's doing it right now. And then I'll yeah, I'll keep it off for a couple weeks.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:30

It has been so incredibly liberating not having Instagram on my phone. I just don't go on Instagram anymore. That's my biggest one is Instagram. Yeah, but it's so once it's not on your phone, it's so easy to just a lot of messages. Yeah, a lot of messages. Four and a half hours of messages. And I imagine that's just the accumulation of like your answering messages, whatever. Yeah, and then four and a half.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:49

Mine's two hours and forty-five. Yeah, what the four and a half, that's a lot.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:53

But is that your cumulative for the week?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:57

Oh, but then there was like this this week, that one day was there's a lot of texting. But besides Yeah, my Wednesday was high. Yeah, same as mine. Yeah, my Wednesday, Thursday were two high.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:08

Yeah, yeah. But again, if I could cut four hours and whatever, 38 minutes down. Per day. Give me two hours back, please. Okay, I'll cut mine down. Instagram is my problem. What what what I can't delete Kindle? What the hell can I delete? Facebook? I guess I gotta delete Facebook. No, Marketplace is too much. You need it. You need it. I need marketplaces.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:26

You need it. Yeah, wish me luck. Go go now. I'm gonna go. You can go before the church people get out, you're good.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:34

We need to leave in eight minutes.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:35

All right. Good. Thanks for listening. Sorry for being inconsistent. Yeah, we'll be back in May for the first time. It is what it is. Okay, bye. Once again, thanks for listening. If you enjoyed the podcast, share it with a friend and consider heading over to our Instagram at Average Superior, checking the link in the bio, and supporting the show. Have a great night.