# 88 Bathrooms and Education

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SPEAKER_00 0:30

Everyone feels the same way you do. Alright? What you do right now makes it different.

SPEAKER_04 0:48

Okay. Welcome to Aving Superior podcast number three. Something. Four? For the 80?

SPEAKER_01 0:57

Didn't bring anything right on.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

Are we past 80? Let's find out. We're we commit to you to do shittier than we're doing right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

And just we're all a little fired up right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:07

Uh we're gonna just uh pivot. We had a 15-minute pre-conversation.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

Negative an airing of grievances.

SPEAKER_04 1:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

But we're moving past that now. Do you think venting is healthy?

SPEAKER_04 1:18

Yes. Um I think it depends on the purpose. And if I think it depends. I'm just gonna think of that. I think it depends.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

How is it not healthy?

SPEAKER_04 1:27

88. 88. Oh jeez. Welcome. Number 88. Moving on. The reason why I think it could be not healthy. If it's not productive, I think if it isn't I don't know. I think there you could be vent with the idea that you're trying to find a solution to something or um be productive.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

I think that's probably better. The first 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_04 1:50

Yeah, we were not productive, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

But I feel so much better. Is that what you mean? Like physiologically, is it healthy to venture?

SPEAKER_03 1:58

Some well, sometimes you feel better. I also feel a little bit better because it's nice to hear that people feel the same way about things you do.

SPEAKER_04 2:06

And I think in the right group, like with the what with your people that you trust, I I think it is probably not bad at all. Unless it just becomes like uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

I it could be bad. See, I I've had a very venting heavy day. There's a lot of venting in my uh corner of the nursing home today. Okay. I don't know if it's it was needed or not. But then just everything we vented so much that then I was just yelling at the walls. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_04 2:31

See, and I think that's a good point. I think bringing up things that you see as an issue is good. I just think that ideally, and I'm not I'm not saying this because I do it, I'm just saying I know that ideally you should be doing it kind of in a way to try to find a solution to those problems potentially.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Uh yeah. But a lot of things on it, like what we're doing. Yeah, you can't control you can't control them. Yeah, I've been waiting to vent about those couple things to you. Like I've been holding them in. And venting to my wife is not the same as venting to you guys.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

Well, no, because she lacks the context, she doesn't work at the nursing home.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Uh yeah, that's it. And it wasn't even all nursing home venting, it was like there's some other stuff in there that's relevant to everybody, but she doesn't share the same opinions because she's such a good person.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

I think sometimes though I feel if you feel shitty after venting, when you're like, I just was not my best version of myself. That's kind of how I felt today. There's like a lot of venting at the end of the day. I was like, I just that was not the best version of me.

SPEAKER_04 3:26

I wish, and I think that that's probably the case in a lot of a lot of times you vent, I think you kind of look back and say, I wish I could just like not they have to say anything about that. You know what I mean? Like I didn't bother. But the thing is you could. You know, I know that, but like I'm saying, and then some people do, right? Some people are very good at just like uh focusing on what they can control, most of the things we said have nothing to do with we can control. So, what's the point, right? Some of them, if you can actually affect change on those things, and then uh again, coming from a productive side lens or from a you know, like uh bringing it up so that you can find some way to solution to the problem, then maybe, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

I like the and I'm usually the guy who says that, like, oh, you can't change it, don't say anything, don't worry about it, right? But I like I like farting against thunder in some ways. Like, I like farting against thunder.

SPEAKER_03 4:16

I know you hate that term, but I like the term because no matter how much I yell nobody goes outstairs outside and just sticks their b hole in the street.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

Yeah, but audibly it's audibly it makes sense. Like farting. So it's just you're never gonna be louder than the thunder.

SPEAKER_04 4:31

But I guess if your point is to try to be louder than the thunder, then that's really doubt.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

I'd probably hurt myself.

SPEAKER_04 4:37

Uh you would blow it blow it out, probably.

SPEAKER_03 4:39

Yeah, I've never have to get surgery. How many how many poop particles do you think you breathe in in a given day? Do you think poop part went well?

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Actually, I had an idea for the toonie amount in your underwear.

SPEAKER_04 4:50

Nobody's got toonie poop in their underwear. Think about it. Um I had this idea for a clothing item that you could sell where you call it flatchy pants, and uh in your underwear, you have a filter that goes on the around the back of the underwear.

SPEAKER_03 5:10

This has been made already.

SPEAKER_04 5:12

For sure it has no way it has. When you fart, uh it like absorbs, but it also pushes out like good smelling things. Here's the thing about strawberry ideas.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

They're not used to it.

SPEAKER_04 5:22

Uh literally, like I thought about this like 20, 30 years ago. I'm not even joking. And 20, 30 years ago, you could have made money on it. Maybe flat Japanese. It's super common. Uh smelling, like smell good smelling underwear when you fart?

SPEAKER_01 5:34

Uh Shinesti. The NASA of Fart Tech. Fart blocking underwear seems to be the main company that pops up.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

Is this for people that are just constantly ripping like Shreddis?

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Shreddies is another one. There's a lot of wow. Maybe you had the first, like, maybe you had the idea before the long time ago.

SPEAKER_03 5:50

Do you think if you are just how much hey, how much do they cost, though?

SPEAKER_04 5:53

Like, what does a pair cost?

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Like 50, it looks like 60.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

60 bucks for a pair of underwear?

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Yeah, it seems like that.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

That's twice the price of sacks. It's way too much.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Oh, there's some there's some $20 ones, but they look pretty basic. They probably smell like crap.

SPEAKER_03 6:05

But how flatulent are you that you feel like you need to put it? Well, not, but like if you were somebody who just like had issues.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

We've had days. You've had days.

SPEAKER_03 6:11

Well, everybody's had days, and they're just they're not good days, but on average, if you're shitting your pants all day, you should probably look long and hard at your diet.

SPEAKER_04 6:19

Well, sure, but like most people won't. They'll just continue to eat what they eat and uh smell. So I should have uh made that idea when I thought of it years ago.

SPEAKER_01 6:29

You should have.

SPEAKER_03 6:30

I would have called them flat you pants. You could have partnered with those stickers. So in in light of not having flat you pants, how many how many poop particles do you think you're breathing in a day? Do you not hope zero? No, I don't, but we can we can find out. You have the ability in your hand to find out the answer to this question.

SPEAKER_01 6:47

Only for 15% more batteries.

SPEAKER_03 6:48

I hope zero. I guarantee it's not more than zero. No, that doesn't make more. I guarantee you it is more than zero. And like particles, like how do you measure that? Parts per million? How much what is the parts per million of poop in the air?

SPEAKER_01 7:02

That at any given time? That is something they have.

SPEAKER_03 7:05

I think it depends on where you go. But you so like do you not get nervous? So like when you when you poop and you flush the toilet, uh-huh. Do you not get worried about like the particles now? Like I like like I get like I'm like shut the lid.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Oh, yeah, no, they did a myth busters on that. That's a big thing. Oh, it's huge. Toothbrushes, like that was the first thing that came up here. It says it can shoot it two meters up in the air.

SPEAKER_04 7:26

That's disgusting. Yeah, like we have uh luckily we have a toilet that has a separate room. Same, yeah. Um, but I I sometimes at like a public place I'll think about that. And I'll just like I'll flush and get out quick. Totally. But like at home, I don't know. And at public, it's in the stall.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:41

Which is also so gross. And usually they don't some they don't have lids, most of those. No, you're right.

SPEAKER_03 7:46

You're skinny fine. No, I don't want to put my I don't think about that.

SPEAKER_04 7:49

I don't care.

SPEAKER_03 7:50

I think about that all the time.

SPEAKER_04 7:51

Well, don't you build do you build a nest?

SPEAKER_03 7:53

If I have time. Are you the nest builder?

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Yeah, if it's if you know you get the toilet papers like single, like almost comes out in single squares sometimes. That one I like because you can adjust for the curvature of the actual but the straight ones I don't build a nest.

SPEAKER_04 8:07

Uh it depends. No, no, it depends on like how like when I visibly look at it, if it seems like ah, it looks pretty clean. I'll like wipe it down still. Like I'll take like uh like a handful and wipe it down and then sit so just spread them around even more of the germs. So you just you're going for the visual effect, not the actual well I know, but if it's if it's like uh then like I don't know about this place, then I'll just then I'll then I'll throw a I'll throw a nest down.

SPEAKER_03 8:31

Actually, I haven't done a nest in a long time. You'd be better off to carry some like pocket Lysol wipes. True. And just but I'm not that much of a germophobe.

SPEAKER_01 8:39

No, he doesn't even have a mask.

SPEAKER_03 8:41

Being a germophobe would be a stressful existence. Yeah, it would be, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

I don't like the t you know how they have the tissue ones you pull out, and then like it's like a piece of paper. Yeah, and then then the flap. I never understood. Do you leave the flap in?

SPEAKER_04 8:51

No, you you rip the flap flap and then the flap sits in the water so that when you flush, it just pulls it all down.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Okay, does that bother you that it sits on top of the water? I don't like that.

SPEAKER_04 9:00

Why I mean it's not coming why would that bother you?

SPEAKER_01 9:02

It's not seeping up into your I was just trying to be see if it was normal, but I'm not, so that's why it really bothers me.

SPEAKER_03 9:08

At what point in human history do you think people started pooping in private, private?

SPEAKER_04 9:13

Uh, I don't know, because the Romans just used to hang out and poop beside each other. And like, did you well I remember watching a movie?

SPEAKER_03 9:19

It was the one there was some guys, it was like World War II, they were the messengers, and they were out in the field for a whole bunch of uh you may have seen this because at the end of the movie they're in the trenches and they're going to deliver a message like don't do this, it's a trap or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Yeah, it's that movie's all one shot. Yes, that's such a 1964. No, 1912. 1912. Yeah, it's a world war one movie. That's right, yeah. It's all one shot.

SPEAKER_03 9:41

But at one point in this movie, him and his bro are just sitting there like shitting.

SPEAKER_04 9:44

Yeah, but I think it's the environment. They're they're they're in the trenches, and like it's different. I still I think most people at that time in life were still pooping by themselves. It's just like in that particular circumstance they weren't.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

If I'm camping and like I I've gone on some like long hikes and pooped with people before, and I we don't poop visually, like I can't see them.

SPEAKER_04 10:01

You know, I'm glad you brought this up. Um, because there's actually uh something I wrote down in my notepad to talk about today. Um was have you been uh you probably you have not, but have you been in um like kind of some newer schools recently with like kids sports?

SPEAKER_01 10:15

Oh yeah, yeah. My kids go to a new school.

SPEAKER_04 10:17

Okay, so there's this new design philosophy somehow that happened in bathrooms in schools.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:25

Okay. I don't know if you've been in any in any schools lately, but anything that's new-ish, it's open. Like open. Like uh, if you're walking past, usually you can see the sinks, and in both the guys and the girls, you can see the mirror, see the sinks, and every in then the stalls, like even if it's just a urinal, it's got like an individual door that locks, and so do all the stalls. So there'll be like on the one side, they'll you'll go in, it's like almost floor-to-ceiling door, shut the door, lock it, even for urnals and toilets. But it's like open concept, other than that. Weird, super weird. So you come out of your stall, and it's like maybe it's a bit of a shame thing, like people can see it if you don't wash your hands, maybe. I don't maybe I don't know that but what I have heard is that it causes is causing huge problems in some of like high schools where people are just going and banging in the individual stall bathrooms that they can lock.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Oh, because it's a full door.

SPEAKER_04 11:23

Like full up like full door, like you can shut that thing, lock it. Uh there's not you can't peek, you can't like it's not a stall where you can like look underneath or over top, it's fully enclosed. And I've heard that uh they quite frequently find used items in the bathrooms uh over lunch hours, and uh that it's happening a lot. How messed up is that? Take the bottom of the door off.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

Yeah, half doors? You could I think you could have seen that one coming.

SPEAKER_04 11:53

You'd think, right? Like, I wonder what happens if we can if we provide a room where they can fully lock themselves in. Where there's this this de facto high level of privacy. And there's like it's be and some of them actually, I can't remember what school I was at. There's no boys and girls. It's it's just a bathroom because every stall individually shuts. Like the sinks are just you don't there's no boys and girls, it's just like bathrooms. I don't like that at all. Oh, what's oh actually, uh, it is um CCH on the west side. Really? Yeah, there's no, yeah, I'm pretty sure there's no girls. No, there's two different rooms.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

No, I mean sorry, uh, one like one bathroom. Like, is the only one like that, or are they all doing it?

SPEAKER_04 12:34

Uh maybe I'm remembering the wrong school, but I know it was one we went to for basketball recently, uh, over the last year, that was like there was no go boys and girls symbol, and all the parents were like, this is weird. I don't like that.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

Because like even visually for me, like after I'm done, let's say in a full urinal stall or whatever the hell it is. I walk out. There's like usually some adjusting and and moving around that I have to do. Completely, right? I don't want like other people seeing it.

SPEAKER_04 12:58

Well, I came out.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

I came out of uh Nor would I know of said adjustment until I walk a little bit. Does that make sense? Like it will make sense for girls, but you know.

SPEAKER_04 13:06

Uh I came out of calibrate, and there was like uh like a girl and they're washing her hands. I was like, this is super weird. Did you poop? I don't remember.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

I just came out of the like one of the doors and it's weird for her. It's unfair to you. I feel it's weird for everybody.

SPEAKER_04 13:20

Like or maybe they're just used to it now. What are we doing? I don't understand it. Why? Why? Yeah, anyway. I just thought I'd bring that up because I was as I was at a school and I was I was I was looking around, I walked in, I was like, we need to talk about this. So I wrote it down. We're so fucked. It's super weird. I don't get it.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

I don't like that at all. And like it's gotta be there's no benefit.

SPEAKER_04 13:41

And I feel like there's no benefit, and there's danger. Like for like you think about like your kids, like your daughter goes to school, and like now some asshole locks her in a bathroom. Like, how do like there's no even if she's calling for help, how do they get in that? Because it's not like these are like pr pretty solid doors. It's not like they're like uh interior.

SPEAKER_01 13:57

Is it like we're in the outside of the handle? Like in my house, like my boy locked my door the other thing.

SPEAKER_04 14:01

Well, I'm sure there's keys that like the janitor could open, but it's not like a like a push button where you stick something like a the old thing in the middle and unlock it.

SPEAKER_01 14:08

I don't like this.

SPEAKER_03 14:09

Yeah, super weird. I mean, it's like you go to restaurants and they have the gender neutral bathroom. Yeah, some of them do. I don't know why or why well, I do know why, but we should be okay with men and women having their own spaces. Yeah, but when men think they're women and women think they're men. But I think it's mostly men thinking they're women. Yeah, it's it's like mostly that. It's just misogyny. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:30

Like what was it? I wonder what the percentages of like trans people, men to women versus women to men. Let's find out. It's gotta be hard. Are we at the point where we can talk frankly about this?

SPEAKER_01 14:40

I don't think that it's as high as you think. Like I but will ex it up. I I honestly do think it's a 60-40 small.

SPEAKER_04 14:48

No, I think it's up way higher. I might I'm gonna go 80-20.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

You know why I say 60-40? Because and again, now we talk about this, but I feel like the women who are being men aren't as like out there and vocal and that's that's true.

SPEAKER_04 15:02

I guess that's probably true. I could say and there's less um pushback because as a dude, if there's a it's harder to tell sometimes. No, but but but like there's no there's no danger, or very, very less, a lot less danger in terms of like if I go in the bathroom and there's somebody that I I can tell has transitioned from a girl to a uh a a guy and they're in the guy's bathroom, I don't care. Like it does I don't feel one I mean I'm like that's kind of weird, but I don't feel like threatened or worried about it or like concerned.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Are you comfortable with open urinals in that situation? What about like a like the Calgary flip the stampede trough? What's up with that?

SPEAKER_04 15:39

That'd be weird because they wouldn't be there.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Yeah, but well, I don't know how that science works. I guess they would be.

SPEAKER_03 15:43

That's a good point. So 6040. No. Oh, first off, non-binary individuals. Give me a break.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Oh, you had to you have to Google all the letters to figure this out.

SPEAKER_03 15:54

Just trans women make up 53%, and trans men make up 40%.

unknown 16:01

Woo!

SPEAKER_03 16:02

You're quite close. Excluding non-binary people.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Oh, see, I was including I am shocked actually. I was including binary people.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

I wonder how that scales across age.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 16:13

Let's find out.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

Who's tracking this as well?

SPEAKER_03 16:16

Like who is collecting the Canadian government, because they're obviously super concerned about this.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

I haven't done it.

SPEAKER_04 16:23

We haven't we didn't get anything in the mail.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

My for some reason, I don't know, she's she's the best person. But my wife thinks if we don't do the census, we're gonna get arrested. Like it's that's you get $500. We we had it before it came in the mail. No, what?

SPEAKER_04 16:34

Yeah, they go they'll fine you $500 for not doing it.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

Are you serious? Yes.

SPEAKER_04 16:39

Uh uh, pardon, say that again. The census, if you don't do it, they can fine you $500.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

How do they know it's you though?

SPEAKER_04 16:45

Um, I all I'm saying I don't know. All I know is my wife told me because we didn't get anything in the mail. So she's like, I don't know, I'm just gonna wait till they get a hold of us.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

This year is the first year that uh my wife said she said they asked for everybody in the house's name.

SPEAKER_04 16:59

Yeah, versus like how many kids or everyone's name.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

I was like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 17:02

Collecting information.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Well, yeah, all my stuff's out there anyway.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

So it sounds like 500 bucks. Young adults, female to male, dominate the statistics, whereas older adults, male to female, make up the majority. I can see that. I can yeah, I can see that too, actually. Yeah, it makes sense. Uh however, it does say, and this is no secret, that there is younger generations are up to seven times more likely to identify as transgender or non-binary than older generations.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

That's so weird. Probably because of the bathrooms. It's education.

SPEAKER_04 17:41

Uh actually, this brings up something else. I was listening to a podcast today about uh education and uh homeschool people taking the kids out of school and stuff. Um, as a parent with two children who aren't yet uh school-aged, have you considered this? I've certainly considered it. Or at least looking for a school that maybe isn't like public education.

SPEAKER_03 18:00

Well, and our area doesn't have a lot of that. I've certainly considered it. It's not realistic given our household I don't know, setup. Time. Yeah. You just need time while in some. Who's gonna do the homeschooling? Yeah, you're in a two two working parent household. Yeah. Like I like, I I I like there are some things about homeschooling that I find attractive, and I think obviously the upside is you get to know what your kids are being taught and shape their view of the world, which is also potentially a downside. But there's also the socialization and uh yeah, but there's there's ways around that.

SPEAKER_04 18:38

Um like there's sure.

SPEAKER_03 18:40

Yeah, it's not like the traditional, like when you went to school, it's like the homeschool kids the weirdo.

SPEAKER_04 18:44

Yeah. No, there's like a lot of uh programs where like the and I think homeschooling has increased a ton. Um and there's like different curriculums you can get. And yeah, the the biggest hurdle obviously is okay, who's who's doing the homeschooling, especially in a place where you're both working, it doesn't it doesn't really work. Um but even like considering I don't know, like uh yeah, I just like if I basically if my kids are your kids' age, and knowing what I know now or know how I think now about things, I definitely would uh look more into options than I did at the time. At the time it was just like, yeah, they go to school. Where's the closest school? That's where we're going.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

There's just not a lot of options outside of explicitly doing it yourself.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

Uh no, and then then there's like the Christian schools, which um I think are better in some ways, but then also um potentially, you know, indoctrinating in other ways.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

So Yeah, there's no good, there's just a bunch of different options with upside and downside, and there's not like one standout option where you're like, this is obviously what I should do.

SPEAKER_04 19:41

Yeah, it'd be nice if they had one, like we've talked about on this before, but like like the Tim Kennedy school down in Texas where they're um apogee. Yeah, like stuff like that, where they're doing a lot of outdoor stuff, playing, teaching like life skills. Although Tim Kennedy's not cool anymore. I didn't know.

SPEAKER_03 19:56

I whatever. Is he not? No, he he's he's he's out of it.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

He got arrested or something?

SPEAKER_03 20:00

Uh no, I think he just got found out to be somewhat of a fraud. Oh, really? I don't know if that's true. Well, I think he I think his stories about his wartime was embellished.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

Well, what's his name called him out? The the grizzled old guy.

SPEAKER_04 20:11

But was that proven? Like again, I I wasn't having followed this on all other other than hearing some things. Like, yeah, I could I couldn't give you any better.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

The Sheriff of Baghdad. Who is that guy? The guy he was on the pause, he was on Joe Rogan. That guy called him. He called him out? He called him out saying he wasn't as as big a like he didn't do a lot of the things he did, and I think that took off.

SPEAKER_03 20:27

I don't know. Which can be damaging to your reputation for sure.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:31

Yeah. He's also a legitimate dude with legitimate experience and and also does some really cool things to like affect the world around him in positive ways, right?

SPEAKER_04 20:38

So that's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

Yeah. And I I would be stoked to handle Tim Kennedy. Me too. I'm not super concerned about it. It's just shitty how to do it.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

Well, since he's not as A-list celebrity anymore, you think he might be listening to this? Tim, if you're listening to this. He would like he'd like Alberta.

unknown 20:53

It's good.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Yeah, he would, yeah. Would he? Well, for now.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Well, no, like the landscape.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

Hey, speaking of Alberta, are you guys voting separate?

SPEAKER_01 21:00

We're not, no, we're doing this.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

I need to do a lot more.

SPEAKER_04 21:03

I really need to educate myself better.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

No.

SPEAKER_04 21:07

I think I I I'm I'm more like on the other side of that. May probably, maybe, versus like the straight up no.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

I want it to happen. It will be a train wreck. Because the way this government is handling many things, including the like the provincial police or stuff like that, like the stuff that I'm seeing on the inside, they are a train wreck. But but I'd want to be but I'd want to be them to separate.

SPEAKER_04 21:28

I don't know if you're wrong, but like but the best like the best option out of all the train wrecks, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. Yeah, like yeah, you're right. That's kind of the problem. It's always a train wreck, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Like it is.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

I don't know. I also surprisingly though, recently read that this government has the highest approval rating I think, or at least miles ahead of the opposing party.

SPEAKER_04 21:52

I I since the last podcast, and I feel like it's been a long time. Um in February. I Been trying not to be like when you mentioned that thing the other day in California, hadn't even heard of it. Like I'm not I'm not on the news, I'm not checking looking at things. It's been nice, actually.

SPEAKER_05 22:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

But but then I feel like I want to know what's going on. So then I but but you just want to know because it's entertaining. Well, no, it's because like I guess I need to be I I guess I need to be selective about what it is. So for example, this Alberta thing and the independence and whatever, I think I I need to do a better job of educating myself on what the actual what that means, what it looks like, is it something that I think actually support? Like off the cuff, I support it. Like, does I want to support it? Because I I am disagree with so many decisions that the government, like the federal government's making, uh, that it's like I I feel like, well, this is the option. If I if I don't like that, then I'll like this. But I don't know if it's that it's all things black, black, and white, so then it should be a lot more um take the time to sit down, read the facts, understand what it means. But it is happening, right? There is a vote happening in October or November, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

Yeah, it's in the full.

SPEAKER_04 23:00

It's on it's on the referendum. I don't know how it works, because I think they I think if this vote gets enough, if you get enough votes in this vote, then it would actually trigger a actual referendum. It's like I think it's a vote to like actually to start it's like a vote to prove the vote.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

That's that's right, because they they can't do the second piece until they kind of fix and not fix deal with the the hunting and fishing rights of like the indigenous people.

SPEAKER_03 23:24

See, and if that's if that's the case, if this is a vote to trigger the vote, I'm voting yes. Yeah. Oh yes. Yes. And then I'll think about it. Yeah, for sure. Because there's also a degree of like pretending we have any influence over any of this, but there's a some perhaps a little bit of a chess game there being like, hey, we're serious about this. Start start treating Alberta better.

SPEAKER_04 23:44

Yeah, and and again, I'm not I don't know enough about it to really talk about it, even though that's what I do.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

Oh, that's every everything we talk about, though. Come on.

SPEAKER_03 23:52

But this is everybody. Everybody does not know anything more than the small snippets they've digested, unless it's like your specific area of interest. Yeah, there's just we're all just kind of being like, yeah, they're good fucking I hate Canada, I love Canada, I want to stay, I want to go. And then you can produce like two or three data points to say why, but nothing with any actual nuance.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

No, no, and that's why it's like, and I find that way actually my kid came home and was talking about um some stuff from school that they're kind of trying to feed down the throat. And and uh this is gonna be controversial, I'm sorry. But it was regarding like the um 215 bodies at the Kelowna Residential School. Yeah. And uh I was like, okay, like we can agree that if it's true, and and in general, residential schools had some negative impact on families. Like there's no debating that, that there were some very negative things that happened. However, there are also voices in that community, in the indigenous community, who say the opposite. Just saying there's people who said that without that school, I would never have been taken away from this. My my parents who were not taken care of me would not have learned English, would not have been all these things. So, anyway, important being when you're talking specifically about murder, you're claiming that there's murdered children all at the school, there's zero evidence to support that. Zero. If you don't believe me, don't get upset, just go look it up. Yeah, they have not found one single body.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

Because I think the company that that made the scanner that they they used put it all on their website, and then they have now taken that off.

SPEAKER_04 25:26

Completely.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Yeah, because they're just like, oops.

SPEAKER_04 25:28

Yeah, completely. So not one single body has been low has been found. And again, that's not me saying that residential schools were good. That is that's like that's the way people try to conflate. They say, well, you are you must hate indigenous people. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying you claimed a very specific thing that there's 215 dead children at this school. That is a lie, it's false. There's no proof of that. Um, and this is what that Francis Whittleson was saying uh in when she was at the university here.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Uh anyway, and you heard it firsthand, obviously.

SPEAKER_04 25:57

And and there's a documentary that you should watch. Again, if you're trying to educate yourself, I don't care what side of this or side of this you're on, if you're trying to understand and actually know the truth of things, there's a documentary on Netflix or on YouTube called Making a Killing. And it is regarding this whole thing. The BC government um still take basically doing land grabs with indigenous uh communities um from private citizens, and also this claim of this 215 missing uh and dead children. Anyway, this was brought up at school with my kid. I just was like, hey, just so you know, like there's other side to the story. Uh, and then there's a podcast I actually just listened to. I sent it to everybody, to you guys. Um, it is from a lawyer whose career was built on being the on the that the side in indigenous rights side, winning like landmark cases for them. Um, but then when it came to uh what's the word reconciliation, like he at a certain point he realized that nothing that the government is trying or that they're claiming and they're wanting to do in the money that they're getting is doing nothing but causing harm and division, and it has done nothing to improve communities of the people they're supposed to be improving. Other and so over the last decade, 38 billion dollars of taxpayers' money have gone to indigenous communities, and there's almost zero accountability of where that money's gone.

SPEAKER_03 27:22

Zero. I do feel like I read something about that quite recently.

SPEAKER_04 27:25

Yeah. So the point was my my whole point was to my to my daughter about this again. Like everything you guys talk about, there's nuances to things, and there's two different sides. And you wanting to know that you wanting to understand things better doesn't make you a bad person because again, we can all agree that we think everyone should be treated equal. It doesn't matter what they look like, what their race is, what their background is, they should be treated and given the same opportunities everyone else has. Um, however, you you when you're talking about like this uh reconciliation side of it, there's no, and this is what this lawyer says, he's like, I was on that side of that of that argument for the most of my career. He's like, I left that career, I left a lucrative, six-figure like career that I had to walk away from because I realized I was doing more harm than good. Because there's no, there's not like at a certain point, okay, we're good now. That's never gonna happen. Like there's never gonna be like a okay, we've had enough of this reconciliation stuff. I think we're good. Yeah, we've reconciled. Yeah, there's there's literally this is it's a perpetual state of learning or something that's never going to end. And without accountability on the side of the the bands and the stuff who are getting millions and millions of dollars about, okay, what did you do with that money to improve your community? Without that accountability, like it's just it's literally $38 billion is gone, gone without almost any measurable improvement in anything.

SPEAKER_03 28:51

And that's where I think it comes down to the argument about equality of outcome versus equality of opportunity. They push a quality of outcome. Right. You and I, regardless of our demographics, our our cultural background, should have the same outcome. We should have the same things and stuff.

SPEAKER_04 29:08

And but if I just it's frustrating because if you if you believe in wanting to help these indigenous communities because of like the the harm that has was done to them when the settlers came, whatever the thing is, if you really believe that, and especially if you as a as a band or a leader of that community says, I believe this, and hey, the government's gonna give me all this money, like I'm just gonna say it, like you're a shitty human if that you don't actually use that money to do make improvements. Like, what where is that going? What is happening to that money?

SPEAKER_01 29:40

Yeah, but if there's no accountability, that that just it just enforces that behavior because they've never not they, but that person, let's say that person you're talking about who who would squander that money and just spend it on anything and not have accountability to it. That they that's all they've ever known.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

But this is the problem. You have to that when you have conversations like this, and I know we've talked about this ad nauseum on this podcast, you have to dance around what you're saying because you don't want to sound too callous or whatever. For sure. The fact of the matter is, you have communities of people who have been subject to years and years and years and generations and generations of trauma, who are raised without skills and abilities to be, you know, contribute in society in a way that would be productive today, repeated, repeated, repeated over generation. We're just giving them money, they have no idea, no idea what to do with it. And I'm sure there's obviously there's exceptions to this. I'm making like sweeping generalizations. But you give these communities money thinking that money will solve the problem when they don't have life skills or business skills or you know, decision-making skills to do with this. There, yeah, accountability, I think, in this form would come with mentorship.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

Well, that but my my uh I'm gonna say my issue with the giving the communities money is they don't give the communities money. They give they give the council's money exactly. And and the way and from our exposure, what we have seen, obviously. Manitoba, I believe, is a little bit different from some from growing up there, but the way that a lot of them are run here, it's not efficient with accountability.

SPEAKER_04 31:02

But the other pro the other in that same problem is the other the other issue in this lawyer talks about is that there's no private ownership on the reserve, right? Like you don't own your home. Yeah. So and and it's basically we said it's almost run like a communist regime in that in that way. Like you don't own your home. Like we give you your home, um, and then you're looking for the you like you need the handout because most people aren't doing doing a job that's they're can be proud of. And like, so again, there's like this whole there's no private ownership, there's no private ownership, there's no like taking responsibility for your for like because you want your house to look nice. Like they don't really feel like they have a hard time feeling that way because it's not your house, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 31:38

Like, so there's like I'm renting, I'm gonna have a different outlook on my own.

SPEAKER_04 31:41

There's all these issues. The whole point, my whole point is, and again, if uh if you're offended by this conversation, like I'm sorry, but like this is just us, like it's just the looking at the problem saying, I wish that that money that went to all of these communities did something to make improvements that lifted everybody up, you know, like all the raise the rising tide raises all ships idea, but that has not happened, and there's no there's no accountability for it.

SPEAKER_03 32:06

And you've seen the money go. I mean, we've seen it you know, when the checks come out and they get dispersed among the community. These people do not have the ability to make responsible decisions with large sums. And I hate saying these people, but it's only the people who people who have been subject to years and years of generational trauma and again, but don't have the tools to do it, yeah, right?

SPEAKER_01 32:26

What they could do though is just take the doors off the bathrooms and then that seemed to solve all of our issues in our city, right?

SPEAKER_03 32:34

Yeah, I don't know what the solution is. And it's the until people also get comfortable talking about it completely, like honestly.

SPEAKER_04 32:41

It's weird that you feel awkward having this conversation. Like it's weird that we're sitting here, three white dudes, and you feel like I don't because like we're not no, but you I have no hate.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

But we have no hate towards.

SPEAKER_04 32:53

I know that you don't, and I know that I don't, and I know that you don't, but I know that you we um we choose our words. No, like talking here on the podcast about this thing. I know that we're sitting here and you're trying to choose your words carefully because you want to make sure that you're not taken off out of context 100%. And and in the end, all our whole the whole intent of this is just to say, like, there's there's a way that the our kids and people are being told one thing that isn't the truth, or isn't the whole truth, or at least it's only one perspective that they're trying to feed us, versus uh there are other perspectives out there that people want to shout down and literally shout down like the Francis Whittlesing and Whittleson thing at uh U of L. Uh they are screaming in her face, not wanting her to just have a conversation with people saying, Hey, what's I have a different perspective on this, and they're claiming that she's a racist, which I doubt she is. I doubt she is at all. I'm sure she has no issues with uh indigenous people. She's just trying to state this is what I think, they're lying, which they are. Again, this 215 bodies is a straight up. Yeah, it's demonstrably false. It's yeah, 100%. There's not a single body found. They spent millions of dollars looking, not one was found. Um, and again it's like again, I'm not saying that residential schools are good because we didn't find a body. That's not anything that's being said. It's just saying you claim something very specific, and off that specific claim, you've built an economy and you've been making people are making money off of these the orange shirts and this this thing and the children and all this stuff, and and it's it's making money, and so then it's like, well, where who is making like it's it becomes a thing, and then you it's something that you can't discuss, and anything you can't discuss is always a problem.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

I've I've had these these conversations exactly with people of our like indigenous people who we work with, and it's people who have social status the same as us, which is which, and we all kind of have the same opinion. I've never had this conversation with a person who is like a disenfranchised person or a person. I have. And I I haven't, and I and I probably will try to do that in the next few weeks. I it won't go well.

SPEAKER_04 35:01

No, but uh, I I don't think it's gonna go as poorly as you think.

SPEAKER_01 35:04

I'm super curious what their opinion is about money and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

I think you'd be surprised that I I am again just generalizing for people that I have no standing here to like really fuck whatever, talk about. Um, I think every like the average person, regardless, is gonna be like, yeah, the system doesn't work. The way that we're trying to address whatever things, and it's like you I was super fortunate not to grow up in a house where I experienced a whole bunch of trauma from the generation before me. They were super fortunate to probably not have experienced a lot of trauma from the generation before them. That is not the case for these like marginalized groups of society. But instead of just having an honest conversation being like, hey, you didn't get the tools you needed to be a contributing adult. You live in a shitty community where this is like, you know, your population is overrepresented in the prisons. Your population is also overrepresented in the fact that you victimize each other because marginalized people commit crime. That's just what happens. People in poverty commit crime. How the fuck do we solve this? Throwing money at it is not the issue.

SPEAKER_04 36:05

And I think it's a mixture of still having the social services like support, but also focusing a ton, a lot more on personal responsibility.

SPEAKER_03 36:15

It just is what it is. But we live in a society where they say, Oh, we just support wraparound services. It's like that it's the nice thing to say, right? Oh, we're just we're gonna give them so many supports. We have so many supports. Don't do the buzzwords, liaise. We're gonna liaise stakeholders. We're gonna talk to the stakeholders, and we're gonna make sure that we use a a victim-centered approach, like victimhood.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

That's the because that's it's uh it's uh protect the class. What are we gonna say?

SPEAKER_01 36:43

No, I just like the the what we were talking about uh putting reports through essentially before and like just sending that one through is essentially throwing money at the problem as opposed to actually addressing the issue with that person who's you know what I mean? It's the quick it's the quick fix.

SPEAKER_04 37:01

Yeah, accountability and personal responsibility have to be in the conversation. Yeah, they just do like at a certain point when you're an adult, even if you grew up in a with bad uh like past, you at some point you have to say, hey man, like you're gonna be held responsible for your decisions. So like like you're there is consequences to your decisions, and so you will provide you with the things that we are tools to try to make better decisions, but in the end, you have to make a decision, and you're gonna be that's this is gonna be consequences of that.

SPEAKER_03 37:29

This is the equality of opportunity versus outcome. Is for equality of opportunity, it'd be like saying, So, say let's say two billion dollars for the R area. Instead of just saying, Here's two billion dollars, do you feel reconciled now? Right. I think it would be more productive to say, all right, we're gonna build some roads. Here's the agricultural center, here's the nuclear power plant, here's the Costco, here's the school, the skills training skill school for this, here's the family supports for this. The opportunity is there. Yeah, but if you want to take it, you need to take some personal responsibility to improve. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:06

Yeah, like there's you cannot get around uh pushing accountability and responsibility. You just can't. Like in the end, as adults, we have to take we have to be accountable. And the lack of accountability these days, just for general things, is absolutely insane. My wife uh uh has some employees that she drive her crazy. This one specific one that just drives her absolutely insane because it doesn't matter what the she she's like, hey, you forgot this thing, and it's never like, oh shoot, sorry, yeah, I'll fix that. Yeah, not one time. It's always like, oh yeah, well, but like I was doing this thing and then I was doing this, and like all it would take is oh yeah, you're right, I messed that up, I'll fix that. Like that's literally it. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

In our in our world, we have conversations about like whose fault is it, and we try to take the blame over other people whose fault it is sometimes. Like, we're the opposite. We're literally the opposite of that.

SPEAKER_04 38:55

When you just try and extreme out extreme ownership of the next person, love that. And like I I think I need to do a better job of like even with my with my kids being like, okay, stop. I don't want to hear an excuse. Just say, yeah, I'm sorry, I forgot to do the thing you told me to do. I'll go do that now. Did you forget to do this? Yes or no? Yeah, not just like, well, yeah, but I was busy and then I had this, and then this cool, we're all busy. Like, I don't care about any of that. Like, just say, Yep, sorry, messed it up. I'll go do that right now. I apologize. Like, that's this it's simple.

SPEAKER_01 39:23

Uh it is, it is for us. I don't think it's for them. It's simple.

SPEAKER_04 39:26

No, but it should be it should be. And that's like again, that's it just a skill that like as they go forward into like the job for us. Like, my daughter's thinking about getting a job a summer, or maybe we'll see. But like, like again, that's just a simple skill that if you can do that, like you're gonna like find work. Number one, find work. You get told you got told your job today is to sweep the floor. Cool, you did that, it's done, and now you have eight hours. Like, are you just gonna sit there on your phone? Like, like most employees. Yeah, you're gonna what can you do next? Yeah, so then it's like look around. Okay, well, I know this isn't my job, but I'm gonna go clean that thing, and I'm gonna go clean that thing. And then I'll and at the same time, you mess something up. Ah, shoot, I'm really sorry. Can you show me how to do that again? Okay, I'll do it better next time. If you did those two things, you're going to be a model employee. You could you'll get any job you want to get. Uh, you'll have like just reviews, you go apply for the next job. Like, this is the best employee you've ever had. They're accountable to the actions and they look for work, and you'll never have an issue.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

You ever heard Jocko talk about how he would, if he had to start fresh, he would get a job at Home Depot and end up running the place? No, but I could see that. Dude, because it's hilarious. Because you know, you get a job at Home Depot, this is your area. Yeah, and he's like this. Yeah, the best area in the world. It'd be the best area ever. I'd be like, it would be tight, I'd be showing up early, I'd be staying late, make sure it's good, and then they would give you more responsibility. Yeah, and I would take that and I would crush it, and then you would be given more. And it's like, well, when you put it that way, it's pretty fucking simple.

SPEAKER_04 40:45

Yeah, it is, but it requires so it just requires again accountability and caring. Caring about like even though this might not be your dream job, like it's just it's caring about for being providing a good service or being a good employee or whatever. Like it's just it's interesting. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 41:02

Yeah. I don't know. I'm worried like it's gonna be tough to teach that.

SPEAKER_04 41:08

I mean, you guys are much further ahead to teach that to your kids and like I'm super curious, like, because again, like it doesn't well, maybe granted.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

I'm not at the end yet, so I don't know if what I'm doing is right. But you know what I mean? But the the met the messages that they're getting, I think it it's it's not too hard to do that. I'm like just to instill it.

SPEAKER_04 41:26

It'll be super interesting to see because like in five years, my kids are done in school. In five years, your kids will be basically starting school. And I'm I'm I'm super curious, and then in like 18 years after that, what like what has changed? Like think about 18 years from now.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

No, no, don't like you won't even you can't.

SPEAKER_04 41:46

What does the world look like? Yeah, yeah, what is the world look like?

SPEAKER_01 41:48

What job is she gonna have? You don't know what job's gonna exist. Like you don't, like what are you gonna do? Like, my because my oldest is getting it today. Like, what do I want to do when I get older? I don't know. I don't know. All I said is I don't care what you do, just put 10% of whatever you make away, and you'll be like, because no one knows what jobs they're gonna have.

SPEAKER_04 42:03

Yeah, like it's it's uh I've actually been thinking about this a lot because like my cat again, two years she'll be done high school, and then thinking, like, what do you? I actually asked her the other day, what is your plan? It's like I don't really know. And I'm like, you know what? I think so. When I was graduating, the thing was always a go to go to university, go get a degree. I'm actually on the other side of that. I think that's a giant waste of time, unless you know specifically that the thing you want to do is like uh be a psychologist. Okay, then obviously you have to go do that. That's fine. Or like a trade school. But if you don't know what you want to do, don't just go to school, don't just go and like burn money and learn garbage.

SPEAKER_01 42:35

How many people did like general studies?

SPEAKER_04 42:37

Remember how many people were in general studies, like take that year or two to figure out what is it that I like to do? What is that my passion about? What is it the thing that like when I'm doing it, it's not even that it feels amazing, it's fun, it's good. And then, like, okay, how does this work as a job? If it's like work talking to people and hanging out with people, cool. What jobs does that work for? And then like start thinking about it that way. And that's what the kind of my recommendation is gonna be for my kid is just like you just need to sort out what it is that because you want to do something that you enjoy in your life. If you don't, like it's gonna be long, it's gonna feel like terrible. And if it means you make less money, whatever, right? Like, because you can account for that by do it putting the 10% away and making a like having a plan for how to deal with that. Um, but I just like that idea of like just oh yeah, if if what's what university are you going to? Like what what school are you gonna go to? Like, I I I actually don't think I want her to unless she specifically knows that she wants like I and I could see her being like a psychologist or something like that, but like if that wasn't what she wanted to do, I'd be like, don't go to school.

SPEAKER_03 43:36

Yeah, I think as it stands right now, I would be of the same.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

The school might give you that exposure to different topics. No, I I uh got a two year diploma. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 43:47

But there's also studies about professional athletes, then it shows you know, usually the top performing professional athletes or a good vast like section of people that become professional athletes, they were exposed to a lot of different sports. Yeah. Versus just specializing in one sport. And I think you could pretty much take that and use that as like when you're entering the workforce, you should be exposed to a lot of different stuff because you might find A, you'll get some skills that are transferable, and B, you might find a skill, like something that you really like that then you can put your energy.

SPEAKER_04 44:17

Or the opposite. You thought you would like this, you did it for like two months, and you're like, this is the worst job in the world, and you walk away from it. Right?

SPEAKER_03 44:23

Like it'd be like committing to med school without ever having really an idea what it is.

SPEAKER_04 44:27

Which is hilarious because like my first my remember my first day of biology class at University of Calgary, 600 people in biology, like the first one, and it's like a studio, and I'm coming from a town of 2,500 people. I'm like, what am I doing in here? Uh the the professor walks in and he basically says, Okay, which one of you, what's how many of you are uh pre-med? This is day one of like our and like 90% of the hands went up. Crazy. And he's like, Yeah, like five of you might get there. Just like boom, just cross your hands but again, like how do you know that at 18? Like, I beg a lot of it's like family influence, right? Uh, but it's interesting.

SPEAKER_03 45:05

Yeah, I mean, I think I was benefited by not going to university right off the hop a little bit. I would have benefited from that. Yeah, just the year I took off was probably the best thing I've ever did. I mean, I also could not have gotten into a university because my grades were different shit, but I well that was the opposite.

SPEAKER_04 45:20

But like I I got to university and I did terrible because I was just didn't know really didn't really want to be there. I didn't know that I I don't know, it was it was hard. And then I took I did two years of university, then I took a year off, and that year off was kind of like a reset and it was really useful. But yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 45:36

Don't shoehorn yourself into a path. No, and again, it's just like what what jobs are going to be good. Well, I don't think I was listening. Have you listened to Mark Andreessen on Rogan? No, it's super good. I like listening to him because the venture capital thing I always find interesting, and he's always kind of got you know the leading edge of tech and stuff like that. And the statement just made, you know, things have changed a lot. Think about how much things have changed in the last 20 years. In the next 20 years, it's gonna change so much more that you can't even fast.

SPEAKER_04 46:06

Which doesn't make sense. Like it's always an exponential growth of like technology, but it's like, how is that possible right now? Like how?

SPEAKER_01 46:12

Like, how can it 20?

SPEAKER_04 46:13

Well, I guess quantum computing. If quantum computing actually becomes like like uh everyone in their house can have a quantum computer, or like it gets to that point, like yeah, things are just different.

SPEAKER_03 46:22

Yeah, or even just we have yet to really see how much AI influences our lifestyle. And did you watch that figure video that I sent you guys, the robot? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

Oh, I think the Lambo one you sent. No, that one was fun.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

Uh no, it was the robot that was doing the sorting on the assembly. Oh, yeah, I've seen that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:40

Right? So that's F Figure Robotics has this humanoid robot that is super has a high level of dexterity, can essentially complete manual tasks accurately and effectively. And I just saw, so I saw that so that for those that haven't seen the video, it's a video of this robot that ran for nine days sorting packages on an assembly line. And basically, these are all packages, you know, like your soft package mailer things or cardboard boxes, whatever, you know, just like kind of like human handable size. Human handable size. That was actually really I like that explanation.

SPEAKER_01 47:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:13

Anyways, uh, and its role was to orient the barcode on these packages down so the scanner can scan it, but they all just float off this like downward uh conveyor belt, so it had to pick it up and find weird angles, or they'd end up on top of each other. It did it perfectly for nine days.

SPEAKER_04 47:30

But that's and that's a legit job that somebody otherwise would do, right?

SPEAKER_03 47:33

Yeah. But here's the interesting thing is then I saw a headline um maybe it was yesterday, how these different companies have now signed contracts with Figure, one of them being, I don't know if this was it, but like Abercrombie and Fitch or some crap like that, right? And because these things are going to work in the stores.

SPEAKER_04 47:52

Well, they're gonna be in everyone's houses in 10 years.

SPEAKER_03 47:55

Like uh and humanoid robots, I don't think the general population has even wrapped their head around what that's actually going to be like for us interacting with them. They're going to do every low-skill labor job there is and just wait till that damn thing is right? Yeah. Are they a public company? I do not think so, not yet. It doesn't look like it. No. But just think about your Amazon prime delivery van now being driven by a humanoid robot. Or nobody, because like the the the Tesla stack. Oh, good point. Yeah. But that's coming. Think about all yeah, again, all your delivery stuff, all your sorting stuff, all your automotive assembly, which is already basically done, all your mine labor, like stuff at the mines. Yeah, all that kind of work. I think first off, there's gonna be so many people without jobs.

SPEAKER_01 48:53

That's the start of it right there. Yeah. Uh and yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:56

10 years, that is not far off.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

No, no, it would be in 10 years.

SPEAKER_04 48:59

Well, like if that's like so we're seeing that now, like with one company, and you know those other companies who are doing it in China, who knows what they have. Yeah, everybody's racing to do it. Completely. So then like it's not just gonna happen solely. It's gonna be like all of a sudden, they're gonna be okay, we have one that's better. Also, we've produced it at a lower cost. You could individually have one at your house for 5,000 bucks, and you'd be like, uh, what can it do? It can clean your house, it can do your dishes, it can put your laundry away. Oh, I'll be signing up as soon as I can.

SPEAKER_03 49:23

Exactly, right? Right, because it'll be out there mowing your lawn, picking the weeds all day, every day without sleeping. Yeah, and then at night I'll have it set on defense mode. Just standing with an AR at your front door.

SPEAKER_04 49:34

Yeah, that's not scary. And then all of a sudden the light in it turns red. Yes, and they become all they try, they try to kill you everybody.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

I'll have some contingency plans, don't worry. But it's I think it's gonna be wild.

SPEAKER_04 49:45

It is going to be, but I I think it's like we use this analogy too many times, but it's like the frog in boiling water, right? It's just like it's slowly you're sitting in there and you're like, oh, this is not a big deal, it's not gonna take over that much, and then all of a sudden, like you by the time you realize it, you it's like it's destroyed X amount of jobs, and it's I mean, it's taken over. And maybe it's it's also opened up with other opportunities and avenues to make wealth or to to like have different jobs. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 50:11

Even think about our job and the thing that I think we all get the most fun out of doing our role at that job. Yeah, I don't think our job will go away from a lot of the interactions with persons at the nursing home, but that job, that job will go away in 10-15 years. Uh, maybe. I know we'll there'll be some there'll be a couple people running the things and the robots will be. I want a robot dog. I don't.

SPEAKER_04 50:32

I well, not personally. I'm saying for the nursing home. Yeah, like those things are way better. They work way better. They're expensive, like Boston Robotics, those dogs. But when you have a humanoid robot that can do all those things for that, yeah, that's actually way cooler. And that's coming. That's that's a good point. That would be amazing. It will be because you can just walk up to the thing, and then you have a headset that goes over your head, and then you're just controlling, like you literally have you have like those hand sensors that go on, so you just walk in and open the door.

SPEAKER_01 51:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:00

This yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

Every sci-fi movie that was made in like the 90s is right. Uh like eventually we will be eating a single portion. No, it's like seriously an MRE. 100%, just like a single glob of food that provides all the nutrients that you need. That will happen 100%. You are allotted one glob today. Oh, there is a food shortage coming, I guarantee. All the fruits going bad quicker. I don't want to get into it.

SPEAKER_03 51:24

I don't know if there would be a food shortage. I bet you we see the opposite.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

I I think they're pushing Ozempic to make people skinny so they're less hungry because they know a food shortage is. Do you actually think that's I well I went a little hard in the paint with the Googling when we were camping because it was raining out, and yeah, I got a little bit No, I I think you'll see the opposite of those things happen.

SPEAKER_03 51:44

I think abundance will increase, but people without a purpose will be very lost souls. I'm viewing it, I'm viewing a little bit of a don't agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 51:52

I'm viewing a little bit of a demolition man type society. Like the up and down where they're the the lower class is massive and they are lower lower class. Yeah, maybe. And the middle class isn't really the middle class is more your of your law enforcement, your first responder people, and then there's the higher or the high society people, which are the people who have probably bought into this company that you're talking about already. Um, you know what I mean? Like, I think that's gonna happen. Gigant lower class, very small middle class who is essentially working for the upper class, and then the upper class being the original. Yeah, and that's like 50 years from now. That's what I think it's gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 52:24

Wow, I bet you you could change that to 15, 20 years. Some jobs are fucked. If you're a lawyer, you're fucked. Oh god, yeah. That you watch that uh that AI lawyer show?

SPEAKER_01 52:33

Yes, I did. Oh no, the show.

SPEAKER_04 52:35

Um movie.

SPEAKER_01 52:37

Oh, there was a guy who actually did that, wasn't there?

SPEAKER_04 52:39

Uh there's an AI, it's called Mercy, uh, Chris Pratt. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:42

Oh no, there's a there's a guy who brought an AI into an AI lawyer into yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:46

Oh, no, no, no, I was talking about like so there's a show called Mercy. It's a movie with Chris Pratt. It was pretty good. It's yeah, it was it was interesting, a cool idea. Basically, it's like an AI that uh if there it's like it's like a close and shut case, we think this person murdered this person, you get put in front of this AI that allows you to use anything at its resources, all the cameras, all the phones, all the things to prove your innocence. And if you can't prove your innocence below like 70, 80 some percent. 93 percent is it knows it's that high. Um, if you can get under, you go to like 91% that you didn't do it, they won't you're fine. But you if you don't do that in an hour and a half, it kills you.

SPEAKER_03 53:21

Yeah, I think if you're a judge, you're probably okay. But if you're a lawyer for like maybe not criminal stuff, but the other stuff, you're done. A doctor, I would be a little bit worried because AI is gonna make better decisions.

SPEAKER_01 53:33

Right now, there's a lot of this thing, uh things. Hospitals in the states are using AI to diagnose and all that.

SPEAKER_03 53:40

Well, it'll be better than if you're a radiologist, you're fucked.

SPEAKER_01 53:42

Oh, gotcha. Yeah, yeah, the interpretation is they wouldn't need that.

SPEAKER_04 53:45

Yeah, uh well, I think I think even now if you put your like um you got an x-ray down, you put that under an AI, it's way better at telling whether something's broken or not than a doctor. Yeah, because it's pattern recognition, it's going to do better than a human.

SPEAKER_01 53:56

Uh that's why I feel like uh the nursing home, any first responder job, is safe for because of the layers of the decisions that you have to make and the balances that you have to make. Like we're not just quoting like a lawyer would quote case law or other cases that can just be in a library in their head. We have to use the in the they have to use the information to make good decisions based off the library as opposed to just re-quoting you know, yeah. Like, but it's not far away.

SPEAKER_03 54:20

If you're a welder, you should be worried.

SPEAKER_01 54:22

Oh, did you see? Yes. And even they have the welding tool now to like you can buy it and it will create a perfect weld on like pipes and like it looks crazy.

SPEAKER_03 54:32

I think some trades are pretty safe for now, but over time that'll get less than that.

SPEAKER_04 54:36

And the but the crazy thing is it's also like a crazy opportunity, I was thinking from like an investment standpoint, if you are willing to kind of make some guesses, which is always always hard. I don't recommend individual stock at guessing because it's hasn't worked out for me that well. Um, but like you just look at like what's the pattern. Well, the pattern is AI, it's computing power, it's uh storage, it's data, it's all these things, and you look at some of the um stocks for that, and I've been kind of just throwing them on my watch list just to see them. And I've some of them I already feel like, oh, I'm too late on them, but like maybe not. Uh one of them is like this, uh it's called Hammond Power Solutions, and it's um it is designs, manufactures, the sale of dry tight power distribution transformers. So it's essentially like a power, it's interesting, but it's gone up uh like a hundred and ninety-eight percent this year. Wow, yeah, and like there's a bunch of those that like just in this last year with computing have increased insane amounts of of uh of uh like a thousand percent.

SPEAKER_03 55:36

But every year you will find stocks that do that, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:39

Like uh so micron technology in the past year up eight hundred and forty-two percent. And it's again, it's just uh data storage, I think is what this one is. Yeah, memory, memory and storage solutions. And you're like, okay, that was predictable.

SPEAKER_03 55:53

But you can also scan disk, it was the other one that went crazy. You can invest in the sector, right? We know that AI is going to be uh prevalent, which with that comes energy energy production, energy storage, data center, compute power, chip manufacturing, blah, blah, blah, robotics, and all those things tied to that. Like that will be the next boom, that is the next boom sector. Completely.

SPEAKER_01 56:15

So Captain O'Leary make it a big data center in Utah. Utah or something. That's 4,000. A lot of people rattle in cages.

SPEAKER_03 56:22

Well, they're upset because it's foreign investment.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:26

And there's tax well, that's another thing.

SPEAKER_01 56:28

Like that, that, and then, yeah. So like the the foreign investment piece and that stuff, this own Albert Emilio country, it's gonna be weird, I feel. Like, for that, because you will limit a lot of people from like outside people coming to do things in our country that is all you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_03 56:44

Potentially, depending on your regulatory framework. Yeah, Canada is no better than the US, uh, or at least parts of the US, like California is really fucked. You cannot so LA, you know how the Palisades burn down? Really interesting. Do you guys have you been following Spencer for a year? Spencer probably. I want to talk about that next, yeah. So we'll get to that. So the Palisades burned down, and they say it could take up to 15 years to rebuild this area because of the regulatory burden that is that that the city places on developments and environmental blah blah blah blah blah. And regulate regulations is part of the reason like economies are not thriving because we live in we're like we're literally regulated to death, especially like again in Canada with pipelines and environmental requirements. Like, yeah, we probably shouldn't have China level of no regulation, but also we should perhaps try and prioritize economic growth over just virtue signaling environmental concerns. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:43

I saw a meme the other day of it's it was an AI, Mark Carney, and he was like doing an announcement. I have an announcement to make. We're thinking about, and just like just basically giving empty promises. We're thinking about thinking about doing this thing maybe tomorrow. It's just like just again, like just garbage, empty promises, yeah. Nothing actually happening. Uh, Spencer Pratt. Is he gonna win? Uh he better. It seems like he so again, if you haven't paid attention, I have seen this a little bit. So Spencer Pratt is running for the mayor of LA, right? Can you tell us who Spencer Pratt is? So Spencer Pratt, what can't the reason you might know that name is he was on the real one of the first reality shows back in the day, The Hills. Like this is like back when reality shows were kind of new, right? It was oh yeah, he was dating that chick. There you go. Uh yeah, can you look that up? What year was The Hills? Oh, dude, like 2005, 2004. Yeah, it was like one of the first-ish reality TV shows, and he was like this kind of douche boyfriend on the and they were all rich and whatever. So he's 06. Yeah, so he like he kind of if you knew him from that, you're like, he's he was a he was an idiot. But now this guy is uh running for mayor of LA, and he's awesome. He's just he's so his house had burnt down. It was one of the houses that burnt down. Uh, and so he got and he's pissed off because the city's not again lot, not allowing them to build, not allowing them to fix their thing, and then he's pissed because they allowed the fire to happen because they weren't doing what they needed to do to try to clear out the brush and all that kind of stuff. So he's he's pissed, and he he's been in these debates with the current mayor who's an idiot, and some other lady who's running for mayor. I can't I don't know who she is. But like these debates are hilarious because he's just straight up like a regular, he seems like a regular guy with some fairly common sense ideas. Like, it's not like he's uh he's not a politician, he's pretty good at like having these debates, but he's just a guy who's got some like ideas that are all common sense stuff to allow people to live how they want to live and be left alone and do their thing, and um that's all it takes now. And it's like that's why populism is thriving as a political kind of position. But he's it's like if you haven't looked at like look at YouTube at uh like Spencer Pratt like debate, uh LA mayor debate or something, and they're hilarious because he just destroys these people because they just they're they're not saying anything, they're like beating around the bush. Yeah, and he's just like, give me an answer. Like, I asked you a specific question about this thing. What are you gonna do to allow these people to build houses? Well, we're working together, and it's all the things you said, like we're working together with our committees, and he's just like it's just garbage, right? It's verbal diarrhea, yeah, not making no sense. And then the one I saw the one I saw, the not the mayor, but the other lady was accusing uh Spencer Pratt of like, well, you guys just you are working with her to gang up on me. He's like, I'm not working with her, I don't like her. She was not she my house burnt down because of her, and I think she's the worst mayor we've ever had in LA. He just goes hard. It's so funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:37

I hope he gets elected because do LA some favors because that place is struggling.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:42

But it'll be interesting to see if he even if he gets elected, what kind of like because again, you're talking about the the um the sent no who am I talking about the guy who actually runs California, uh governor? The governor is is not would not be on his side because he the he's super liberal. And as he's so like, how much can you get done in the framework in the city when the uh state has all these also regulations?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:07

Yeah, and that break that I mean that begs a question, right? Again, it's like when the president gets elected, and then you just presume, although in this case kind of seems like that does happen, like there's all the other people around that still influence these decisions or can control or can put up roadblocks or whatever that is. Like, how much can one person do?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:26

Did you see Tulsi Gabbard was resigning?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:28

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:28

And I don't know if I I don't know if I something that I I didn't look into it. It was like a a headline I saw, and I was like, I didn't verify it, but like it just seems like, and again, I don't want to get into this, but it just seems like some of the people here like, oh cool, they're gonna go do something there, and you're like, crickets.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:43

Yeah, I I wouldn't be I'm not following any of this, but I wouldn't be surprised if the honeymoon period is over and there's a bit of I don't know, disillusion, disappointment, whatever you want to call it. And I mean if I if I lived in the States and I had been voting at that time, I would have voted for Trump. Probably largely on the basis of the statement no more wars. Yeah, and then move straight into a war. And if you are that person that voted, you you'd have to be like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:13

Yes, she's resigning as director of national intelligence. She announced her resignation on May 22nd, an effective date of June 30th. Well, she excited she she cited her husband's recent diagnosis with uh of uh bone cancer. Oh yeah, so maybe but maybe that was hopefully that's the reason, not like the fact that she's oh she's still she's still saying that Trump's okay. I don't know, well who cares, whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:41

Seriously, at the end of the day, who cares except for that we're paying crazy armor leg for gas.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:45

Oh, dude. And groceries again. So much. We're not talking about my truck, my truck I put 150 in my truck today. It didn't fill in three quarters. Yeah. I was like, what?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:56

I texted you guys on the way when it's a UFA. I need uh I need a could not believe it. I was I looked at I did the receipt math like four times.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

Is it cheaper than Costco?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:06

That'd have to be. Costco's like 170, it's 156. UFA is I never go there anymore. I gotta go there. Yeah. I I I only do it when we come to uh podcast because it's on the way.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:17

Oh well, probably worked out. But this, and I think we have said made this statement before. I don't know how single-income families or people that have lower paying jobs, you know, minimum wage, close to that, in the realm of that, how are they surviving?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:32

Debt. Like we we aren't right now, and we're like, I think we're single, but it's a higher debt. Oh, yeah, yeah. It like I couldn't imagine. If you had one kid on a single income, like a and then you're buying a new fucking truck or some stuff like that. It's it's debt. There must be people just swimming in it, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:51

Yeah, and I always think back to the old statement of you know, the average Canadian. What the fuck is that? So just so this guy just pulls out a fucking aluminum credit card.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:01

Hey, we get it, you're rich. I'm not. I just well I just got my well simple credit card. Oh, that's what the W is. It's metal.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:08

I've always because they have the place in the mall you can get these. Not these.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:11

And it's sick because it's like you pure black, so it looks like I'm super cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:14

People have like a metal Pokemon card.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:16

So other than just flopping your giant credit card on the table, does this give you any other benefits? Uh 2% cash back.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:22

It's just like a regular credit card. It's just my Costco card. Yeah, it just looks cool because it's metal.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:26

Costco gives you 3% back.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:28

No. On gas? I think they took it away as 2% now.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:32

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

I just got it today. It's anyways. I got a lottery ticket. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, right. I don't know. Not gonna go over to that. Sorry, I don't want to start inventing again.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:40

So if you had a bill right now, I know if I said to you, hey, I need you to give me $400 right now, you're not allowed to use credit.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:47

You could do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:49

Something like 50% or more Canadians could not do that. That you think 50%?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:55

That you know what? That makes sense. For how freaking expensive everything is, that makes I feel like 50%'s high though. It's pretty high.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:05

But I bet it's close. I yeah, I've heard like if you somebody had a surprise, like a bill they didn't expect.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:11

If I missed a paycheck, like if I missed two paychecks, I would be like, oh crap.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:16

Do you have um like it would be like Do you have an emergency fund?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:19

Yeah, but I but that money's just burning a pole in my pocket, and I want to dump it on something right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:24

Don't I got just or or put it in high interest cash, like a high interest uh that's where that's where we're not.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:29

My my emergency fund keeps getting spent on fucking emergencies. Uh nearly half of all Canadians are living paychecked, paychecked, or do not have enough savings to handle unexpected expenses. Uh data reveals one quarter to a third of Canadians would be unable, so not even saying not off of credit, would be unable to cover a sudden unexpected bill of 500 to 400 without taking on debt or borrowing money. Oh well, I guess that is credit. Uh that's scary.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:53

Well, you see, there's this guy, I don't know, he's just like TikTok person or whatever, but he's in Toronto, he just sees people on the street. Hey, how much is in your checking account right now? Like how much cash do you and you just that's ask that question and it uh answers. I don't I don't know if it's it's edited probably so they don't have it's not.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:10

But you know what's interesting about that is like sure, I think it's interesting, but like rich people don't have money in their most most wealthy people don't have a ton of money sitting in a checking account. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:19

And that's why this is yeah, how much money are you supposed to have sitting in a checking account?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:23

I I I don't know. I think it's kind of in and out account, like a few thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:27

Yeah, enough to enough to maintain a little bit of that. Yeah, that's all we like.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:31

Don't get me wrong, if you're writing up to paycheck day and before you get there it's at like zero dollars, that's a fucking problem.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:39

Yeah, yeah, I I I don't know. Like we should I I I like talking, I've been obsessed about um this would be this would be a start of the podcast talk. Yeah, I think well, I think the next one we should maybe talk more about this.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:50

But it's like a preview for the next one coming up next podcast, finances.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:54

Yeah, I I think there's I've been really interested in like different ways to do it. I don't I definitely don't think it's a one size fits all. Everyone's gonna have to have has their own like risk level, tolerance level, that but there's some really basic things that everyone definitely should do.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:07

I feel like we have talked about on a podcast. Yeah, maybe we have a lot. Let's do it again. Yeah. I mean, I I also like talking about money and budgeting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:15

I I like talking about money, like dreaming. I bought a lottery ticket with these Coke Zero, so we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:22

Well, how much? How much?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:24

Don't don't start. Don't give me a start on that. Uh no, I'm saying how much is like Oh no, I thought you meant like the Lotto Max is now seven dollars instead of six dollars of the extra for some fucking reason.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:33

Yeah, because the the the uh jackpot is now ninety million dollars.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:37

Oh cap to ninety? Yeah, that uh there's also I think there's I've added a number too.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:41

Yeah, you give it your more chances at the max millions, but like like shut up. Like I don't get it. Why is it a dollar more now? I don't like that. Yeah, inflation. Inflation.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:49

Yeah, uh no, Mike, well, what's the jackpot that you bought? Is it 14 million? Something like that?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:54

No idea. It's it's in the it's in the teens, I think.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:56

Yeah, so buy this one.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:58

Huh? Why not?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:59

Why not?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:00

I think you'd not be not. I'm at the till. Well, of course. And I think the reason I bought this one is because like I thought about it and I'm at the till, and I'm not saying this because if I win, this is a civil dispute, you guys can come after me all you want. But I'm like, no, I I buy things when I'm doing something outside of my normal routine, so that if I win, I can be like, hey guys, you guys are the reason I won. Here is some you know what I mean? Like, that's kind of like no, like it's you know or if like my my boy does something or like or I have to go hold on, pick him up for some.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:29

If you're gonna say we're the reason you won, like you you gonna hook us up though.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:32

Well, that's the whole point, is like I want to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:35

Um, I appreciate that. But I also I I'm what I for me, it's like if I'm sitting at the counter and I look at it and I think about it, and then I then if I don't, but if I I'm like for me, it's like if I'm like if I don't do it, and then it's like that could have been the one I won. You know what I mean? If I haven't don't think about it, then I don't think about it. But if I'm sitting there and I'm looking, I should get one. I'm like, eh. Well, now I thought about it, so I have to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:53

That's the way I used to look at crypto coins.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:56

Do you have a higher chance of being in a plane crash or winning the lottery? I think it's a plane crash.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:00

Oh, plane crash. Lottery is like one in 32 million or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:04

Yeah, I think you have a higher chance, it's it's really bad chances. Here's the problem, though. I know somebody who won. So it's like, cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:12

I mean, I know somebody who's been in a plane crash. There you go.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:16

So I mean like I like I yeah, like I know somebody who won, so then it's like I know that it's it you can win. It you have to have a ticket, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, sure, your odds are really bad, but if you don't tick it, but somebody always wins. Exactly. Well, that's the wild thing, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:31

Yeah, if you don't win, you're not gonna win.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:33

If you don't tick it, it's zero. You should be a spokesperson. Hey, you guys want to sponsor podcast? Uh Max. A lot of max we have all these extra months left because we only podcast once every two months. Yeah, thank you for our six listeners for coming back and listening to us talk about.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:48

Well, probably two now because they don't support our views on residential schools.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:52

If you if you can't listen to hard conversations that you disagree with, and to be honest, if you disagree with us and you can have a rational conversation. Come at us. No, no, not come at us. Come talk to us about it and explain why we're wrong, because I'd be interested to know. I yeah. So I don't think anyone's gonna do that, but they want to.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:12

Can we close the podcast out with this? A prayer?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:15

Um That's more like uh like that. How's your running going? Uh I this month's been bad. I mean good, but like I'm hurting. Physically? Yeah. Uh uh this week, this month I have run 221 kilometers.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:35

Holy shit. Are you on the peptides again? No yet at all.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:38

No ever. Uh no. Uh this month's been crazy because of that miles from ABS. Uh last week 75 kilometers. Week before that was 90 something. That's too many kilometers. And that was really hurting. So I had to dialer back this week. I'm just going back to five a day because I'm I have uh the coolie cactus crawl coming up here. That is a 20-mile run that uh I don't want to be super sore for when I start it. So goodness, that's a lot of running. Went and tried on the new Hoka Speed Goats. Seven.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:12

Yeah, I like them. I like them. Yeah. I'm done with Hoka. If I was to run again, I would not be supporting Hoka anymore. Wow. Yeah, anti. They make your feet look too big. You look like you're wearing shoes.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:23

They're weird heel. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:25

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:25

The underarm is doing the same thing though, with a heel and underarm shoes. Yeah, I got a lot of bubbled out big thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:31

I tried on some ultras too, but I just don't know. I don't know yet. I gotta buy some shoes anyway. I got some birthday money that is burning a hole in my pocket. Get yourself some meta ray-ban. I have I really want them, but then I'm like, for what?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:44

Like who's up display now?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:45

Yeah, but what am I gonna record? Everything. Who wants to watch my garbage? I do. We should rec we should get Ray-Bans.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:54

That's how we do this video. That'd be amazing, three Ray Bans.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:57

Uh, but I think it they only record certain like I wonder how that would work. That'd be hilarious.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:02

And you like see where you're looking.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:04

Well, we have money, right? Sitting right here. How much do they cost? Let's find out. And then we're gonna shut this down. These are supposed to buy a couch and now they're gonna buy three pairs of Ray-Bans. I think 20 bucks each. I think we could buy like I'm gonna have the I want the Oakley ones, so I don't want the Ray-Ban ones.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:20

Three cases for them.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:21

They have Oakley ones? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:23

Why do they not tell you?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:24

The Oakley ones are nice. I feel like they're 700 bucks.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:27

Dude, we could totally afford these. Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses typically cost between 307 Canadian and 579 Canadian.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:36

I think the good ones are like I thought it'd be way more than that.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:39

No, they're like I think the Oakley ones, like the nice looking ones are like 600 bucks.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:43

Can I just strap a webcam to my forehead? That counts.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:46

Is that I wonder what this podcast would look like if we just had those. We could live stream the podcast. We don't even have to record it.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:52

Okay, let's end this because I want to talk about something else uh from the podcast. Okay, thanks for listening. Peace. Once again, thanks for listening. If you enjoyed the podcast, share it with a friend and consider heading over to our Instagram at average superior, checking the link in the bio, and supporting the show. Have a great night.