EdSales Edge Show
EdSales Edge is the strategy podcast for education founders, consultants, operators, and leaders selling into education.
For years, this show was known as Breaking the Grade, a space to challenge the status quo in education and think differently about how change actually happens. That mission hasn’t changed.
But the work has.
Over time, one thing became clear:
Education founders don’t just need inspiration.
They need clarity.
They need real strategies for selling into schools.
They need predictable ways to generate leads.
And they need to understand how trust is built in a system that doesn’t move fast, and doesn’t give many second chances.
EdSales Edge was rebuilt to match that reality.
Hosted by Josh Chernikoff, a two-time education founder who’s built and exited companies in this space, the show breaks down how selling into education actually works—across B2C, B2B, B2B2C, and B2E—always through the lens of how education institutions really make decisions.
This is not a show about hacks, shortcuts, or quick wins.
Education doesn’t work that way.
On EdSales Edge, you’ll hear:
- Real strategy for selling into education systems
- Conversations with education decision-makers who explain how buying actually happens from the inside
- Stories from founders, CEOs, and operators who’ve built real traction selling into schools—what worked, what didn’t, and what actually moved deals forward
- Teachings from the EdSales Elevation Experience, the system used to help education founders move from unclear and invisible to trusted and in demand
You’ll learn how to:
- Define your Perfect Client
- Pull the right credibility lever
- Move from being hidden… to trusted… to building a real lead engine
Josh is joined by his good friend and mentor, John Gamba—Director of Innovative Programs and Entrepreneur-in-Residence at Penn GSE, and a former education founder who’s led companies through real growth and successful exits. John brings the institutional lens, shaped by years inside districts, universities, and education systems, seeing how decisions get made when the doors are closed and what earns trust over time.
Together, they sit on both sides of the table, the builder side and the system side, so the show stays grounded in reality, not sales theory.
If you sell into education and you’re tired of guessing,
guessing who to talk to,
guessing how decisions get made,
guessing why interest doesn’t convert—
this show is built for you.
EdSales Edge
Clarity. Credibility. Real traction.
If you sell into education, this is where you earn your edge.
EdSales Edge Show
Secrets behind unlocking 7-figures in sales...How this seasoned entrepreneur transformed his sales process.
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Summary
In this episode of Breaking the Grade, I chat with Ernie, a seasoned leader who's been navigating the ever-changing education landscape since 2001. He shares valuable insights on how he completely transformed his sales system and unlocked 7-figures in proposals before the new school year started. Ernie shares all about staying adaptable, building relationships, and why rejection can be a powerful teacher.
Together we dive into the unique challenges of selling in education, how networking can shift your business, and the role LinkedIn plays in connecting with decision-makers.
If you're looking to grow your business in a competitive market, this conversation is full of strategies you won’t want to miss.
Tune in to hear:
- The one tool that transformed Ernie’s business and unlocked 7 figures in proposals setting him up for a successful 2025 - and how you can too!
- The power in re-evaluating your business model and setting yourself up to thrive.
- Why rejection can be the key to uncovering your biggest business breakthroughs.
- The game-changing power of selling year-round—and how to make it happen.
- Why being able to start delivery of your program at any time of the year (instead of just the start of the school year) can open you up to big sales opportunities.
- The power of a strong LinkedIn presence—and why it’s essential for building meaningful connections.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to Beyond Technology Education
05:56 - Navigating Marketing Challenges in Education
11:55 - Understanding the Education Sales Cycle
18:14 - Future Aspirations for Ernie and Beyond Technology Education
Links
Ernie Delgado
Beyond Technology Education
Edsales Elevation Experience
Masterclass
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Founder, Edsales Elevation Experience
Host, Edsales Edge Show
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