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EdSales Edge is the strategy podcast for education founders, consultants, operators, and leaders selling into education.

For years, this show was known as Breaking the Grade, a space to challenge the status quo in education and think differently about how change actually happens. That mission hasn’t changed.
But the work has.

Over time, one thing became clear:
Education founders don’t just need inspiration.
They need clarity.

They need real strategies for selling into schools.
They need predictable ways to generate leads.
And they need to understand how trust is built in a system that doesn’t move fast, and doesn’t give many second chances.

EdSales Edge was rebuilt to match that reality.

Hosted by Josh Chernikoff, a two-time education founder who’s built and exited companies in this space, the show breaks down how selling into education actually works—across B2C, B2B, B2B2C, and B2E—always through the lens of how education institutions really make decisions.

This is not a show about hacks, shortcuts, or quick wins.
Education doesn’t work that way.

On EdSales Edge, you’ll hear:

Real strategy for selling into education systems
Conversations with education decision-makers who explain how buying actually happens from the inside
Stories from founders, CEOs, and operators who’ve built real traction selling into schools—what worked, what didn’t, and what actually moved deals forward
Teachings from the EdSales Elevation Experience, the system used to help education founders move from unclear and invisible to trusted and in demand

You’ll learn how to:

Define your Perfect Client
Pull the right credibility lever
Move from being hidden… to trusted… to building a real lead engine

Josh is joined by his good friend and mentor, John Gamba—Director of Innovative Programs and Entrepreneur-in-Residence at Penn GSE, and a former education founder who’s led companies through real growth and successful exits. John brings the institutional lens, shaped by years inside districts, universities, and education systems, seeing how decisions get made when the doors are closed and what earns trust over time.

Together, they sit on both sides of the table, the builder side and the system side, so the show stays grounded in reality, not sales theory.

If you sell into education and you’re tired of guessing,
guessing who to talk to,
guessing how decisions get made,
guessing why interest doesn’t convert—
this show is built for you.

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Clarity. Credibility. Real traction.
If you sell into education, this is where you earn your edge.

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Getting on First Base: An Education Founder’s Guide to Sustainable Growth

May 24, 2026 • Josh Chernikoff

0:00 | 28:14

Most education founders think growth comes from landing the biggest district.

Wrong.

In this live episode of EdSales Edge, Josh Chernikoff, founder of the EdSales Elevation Experience returns just 17 days after unexpected triple bypass surgery and gives an update to the community on his recovery and the long road ahead.

John Gamba, Entrepreneur-in-Residence at Penn GSE, joins on his birthday on Wednesday for a breakdown of Moneyball by Michael Lewis (and the film it inspired)—and why it matters for every education founder.

They explore why the smartest founders stop chasing flashy opportunities and start building proof that compounds over time.

Winning companies don’t outspend everyone.

They find overlooked opportunities—and let proof do the work.

This episode is about sales strategy—but also resilience, entrepreneurship, recovery, and staying in the game long enough to win.

WHY THIS MATTERS

Too many education founders are trying to hit home runs before they’ve proven they can consistently get on base.

They chase:

giant districts
conference hype
vanity metrics
long-shot opportunities
buyers with no urgency

Meanwhile, the best founders focus on:

implementation
speed
relationships
feedback
proof of effectiveness
repeatable outcomes

John references his favorite line from Moneyball that captures the entire philosophy: “We pay you to get on first, not to get thrown out at second.”

It is a reminder that sustainable growth doesn’t come from chasing home runs—it comes from building proof, stacking small wins, and creating momentum that compounds over time..

KEY STRATEGIES & MENTAL MODELS

1️⃣ Small Districts Are Not Small Opportunities

Smaller districts often provide faster decisions, stronger access, and quicker implementation cycles than massive systems.

2️⃣ Proof Compounds

The most valuable thing an early-stage company can build is evidence that the solution works. Not hype. Not impressions. Proof.

3️⃣ Compress Contact-to-Contract

Founders waste years chasing deals that never move. Momentum comes from shortening the distance between conversation and implementation.

4️⃣ Clarity Beats Flash

Conference buzz and “interesting conversations” don’t build businesses. Urgency, fit, timing, and measurable outcomes do.

5️⃣ Winning Isn’t Always Loud

Sometimes winning is: