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111. Good Habits For Great Skin After 40 with Lisa Duffy

• Heather Carey • Season 4 • Episode 111

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If there is one thing that women in midlife women contend with it is our ageing skin. Today I am talking with skincare expert and the owner of Magnolia Skin Essentials Lisa Duffy. Lisa inspires women to embrace aging with confidence through well-tested, clean skincare. We explore the significance of combatting aging and maintaining beauty in midlife.

• Importance of aging gracefully while embracing beauty 
• The journey of creating Magnolia Skin Essentials 
• Understanding the benefits of magnolia bark extract 
• The concept of clean versus natural skincare 
• Nutritional aspects influencing skin health 
• Lisa’s simple and effective skincare regimen 
• Choosing the right products tailored to individual needs 
• Empowering women to find peace with aging 
• Highlighting personal beauty narratives and experiences 

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Speaker 1:

Hi everybody and welcome back to the Real Food Stories podcast. I am here today with Lisa Duffy, the founder, formulator and researcher behind Magnolia Skin Essentials. Lisa is a woman in midlife who has spent years perfecting a luxurious line of skincare products infused with a secret ingredient, magnolia Bark Extract, which is a powerful, time-honored ingredient with super antioxidant, anti-inflammatory and antibacterial properties. Lisa received her certification in organic skin care from the Center of Excellence in 2019 and has continued her education at Formula Botanica and from Perry Romanowski of the Society of Cosmetic Chemists. So hi, lisa, welcome to the show.

Speaker 1:

Let's just jump right into the topic of aging, first of all, for women in midlife and so many women just in the menopause transition, when we're faced with so much with our health, our weight, our energy, to name a few the fate of our skin is a huge concern for so many women, I think, at this age.

Speaker 1:

So anytime that there's a product that promises beautiful skin or the hope of looking younger is, I definitely perk up at that. You know, like if there's something that, like I feel like I maybe take a couple of years off of my face, I'm guilty of it. I definitely, you know, this is something that that concerns me, especially because I probably spent way too many years in the sun when I was younger, not caring, and now here I am caring about it. But I also think that there's this fine line between wanting to look younger and age in reverse and all of those words that are kind of buzzwords that are coming up right now and just simply embracing our age and being a woman in midlife and being okay with that our age and being a woman in midlife and being okay with that, which is so hard for some women. So I wanted to just jump in and start hearing about your story and how you got inspired to create your skin line, which is amazing and um, and how it's influenced you.

Speaker 2:

Well, um, thank you so much, first of all for the opportunity to be on your podcast. I feel very grateful and I love your podcast. I think that you really touch on some incredibly important issues that all of us are facing. And you know to just give sort of a Reader's Digest version, because I can talk and I get very passionate about things. I'm a Southern California native.

Speaker 2:

I was born and raised there 30 years and I came from a background that was very holistic in the sense that my mother and father had eight children and it was very expensive to take care of them. But my mother was also I mean, I would call her a little bit of a pioneer on the whole foods environment, that whole landscape, because she was into whole grains, whole foods, doing her own. You know, like we could have sweets, but she insisted on making them because she wanted them to be nutritious as well as, you know, delightful. So she had a real balance in her perspective on life and I truly appreciated that. She was also a very compassionate person and taught us how to be compassionate toward others and I really feel that that sort of all rolled into my view of skincare, view of skincare being beautiful, why we want to feel beautiful and how to heal ourselves, and I don't mean sort of a renegade path to healing, I just mean that I think that you know nature provides us with a wonderful bounty of ways to heal the smallest things as well, as you know, big, big problems. There's, you know, certainly documented proof that the foods that we eat play a role in cell repair, cell regeneration, things like that, all those things that are really important to the skin. So I think that you know your values and mine connect in that way for sure, because it really is important.

Speaker 2:

As we age we want to feel beautiful. There's that's just sort of innate in our nature as women. We nurture, we grow and we gift right, we create and we gift and we do those things, and so it's beauty, it's a natural truth that comes from being a woman, and so for a long time, for about 20 something years, I was a divorce recovery author, speaker and life coach and I unfortunately went through my own experience that was not wanted, something I wanted in the early 1990s and I just really, after my healing and recovery internally, I wanted to share that with others. And then there came a point where I hit the age 45. We had chatted about this earlier, that 45 was that magic number for me. I was actually going through menopause early, like 38, 39. And it was a very long process and my weight changed, my hair changed, my skin changed and I just was very unhappy with myself. My husband loved me no matter what, which was wonderful, but I just wanted to do something.

Speaker 2:

So I sort of fell back on all that you know foundation that my mother gave me and I wanted to see in the clean skincare arena for obvious reasons, and so I started down that path of just sort of homemade remedies what could I do? Diy stuff like that? And the further I got into it, the more interested I became in the why. Why do these things help? And that's when I got into organic skincare and started my education as a cosmetic formulator, which brings me to today. I think that, after a ton of research, I really truly believe in the significance, the significant impact that magnolia bark extract can have on your skin. And it's not a new ingredient by any stretch. It's been used for centuries in Chinese medicine, and that's one indication of an ingredient that isn't just a marketing ingredient. Some you know that a story is built around to make a consumer feel great about buying it. It really does have a long history of helping heal and helping beautify.

Speaker 1:

So I want to definitely get into right the specific ingredients and I think I'm'm intrigued with and I think especially right when you hear something like magnolia bark extract, like that's one ingredient that can really help. So my you know radar kind of goes up too. I'm curious about it. But I want to just let's just backtrack for a second. I want to talk about just the overall aging. You said something, you know, that you went through menopause when you were in your late 30s which is young, you know and then had all you know, all these changes and you want to hold on to your beauty, right? And I think that that is the case for so many women, even getting into your 40s. I think that we're I mean, we're living longer, right, and so when you're in your 40s and in your 50s and you're going through menopause and like all these changes, I know for me at least I just feel like I'm too young to like, feel like I have to call myself like an older woman or it.

Speaker 1:

Just mentally I don't feel it you know, but physically so, like there's that, that there's this resisting aging or just aging gracefully, or how do you feel about that? You know just that kind of giving into aging. I mean, I know, yes, we want to hold on to our beauty and I think that's important for women, but I mean just the concept of aging gracefully. How does it and how does that go along with your philosophy of your skincare line?

Speaker 2:

Well, that's a great question. We could spend a lot of time talking about this, I think. To get down to the heart of the matter, you know Beauty is very personal. The desire to be beautiful is also personal, because I think beauty can mean something different to different people. So I would just start with asking yourself what does beautiful mean to me? And in my personal answering of that question, beauty oftentimes is far more visible from the inside, like the kind of person you are. We all know people who are gorgeous on the outside and not very much on the inside, and vice versa, and then there's all different combinations of that.

Speaker 2:

So I think what's important as we age is to become comfortable with who you are. A lot of that has to do with how you lived your life, and it doesn't mean when you say I've, I've lived my life Well. It doesn't mean that you're perfect. It means that you did your best right With with the circumstances that you were given. And that's so important because if you've done the best that you could with what you were given meaning financial, life circumstances, hereditary you know you, you did your best, um, that's a great thing and you should feel good about that. And when you feel good about yourself. Obviously, it it comes out and it it's part of what makes you beautiful, you know. I think that, in addition to being comfortable with who you are, I think it's important to you've talked about this before and it's a big thing but not really go by the standards that are set by social media or the media at large. Social media or the media at large, because I find some women carry their wrinkles and their you know life on their face. I just think it makes them more beautiful. I'm sure that they were beautiful when they were younger, but there's a richness that comes out in them that is very beautiful. And so when I sort of take this idea of being beautiful to the masses, if you will, with what I am promoting my skincare line with Magnolia Bark Extract I think it's an embrace your age.

Speaker 2:

Now, I mean, there are, I know, women who are in their mid to late thirties and they're freaking out because they're like, oh my gosh, I'm going to be 40 soon and I do remember being there and it's like, wow, 40 is staring me in the face. It's like this big dead end, but it's really not. My 50s were a great decade. I am 61 and I'm looking forward to even more great years Again.

Speaker 2:

You know, my theory or my perspective on beauty is embrace your age and you know, let's help, you know, uncover more beauty by focusing on your skin, by healing ailments or just getting rid of all those layers of dead cells. I mean, you know there's so many aspects to it, but just you know, improving cell regeneration, there's so many things. So I, like you, heather, sort of had an invincible sort of mindset when I was in my 20s and 30s and out in the sun. You know, california sun is pretty hot and relentless, so I am not a saint in that at all. But you know, as we get older, if you take care of your skin and, you know, follow a good diet, that does play a role in what that damage is going to look like as we age. So I hope that helped.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, no, definitely yeah, I wanted to just, yeah, circle back to you know.

Speaker 1:

Just being comfortable with who you are is, you know, is something that you've mentioned and one thing that I'm also seeing, just besides social media and stuff are like women in their 20s and probably, you know, like the young women starting to get Botox and starting to do things that, like you, probably wouldn't have even considered until you're like in your 50s now, to just get ahead of the aging game, right, and that's just astounding to me. I don't know where that comes from, I mean, but it's really the opposite of embracing your age, right, we're just, I think, as women, constantly resisting just that that getting older but the bottom line is that we are getting older. There's absolutely nothing like nothing you can do about it. It is out of our control, nothing you can do about it. It is out of our control. And and to do your best, like you said, and to and have make some peace around it is really, I think, the best thing that we can do, and you know so. I mean, yeah, you can just see it on on social media and stuff.

Speaker 2:

I mean it is definitely it's a battle, for sure. Yeah, and I I like the way you put that you know, make peace with it. So often in life we have to make peace with so many things, you know, relationships or poor choices, things like that. And so making peace with who you are and where you are at is not a bad thing, it's not a concession. I think you know that.

Speaker 2:

Just, I just reminded myself, I think 20s and 30s, when you have, you know, the gift of youth and in beautiful skin and health and things like that, you know it hasn't, life hasn't really hit you yet in what is possible and it's easy to be to look ahead at other people who are ahead of us and just sort of criticize or make a judgment. And just sort of criticize or make a judgment and I'm saying this because I do remember when I was younger and I would see women who had had children and were older, and I would say I would just never do that. I, like, I would never allow myself to look less than what I consider beautiful, you know, and it was such a, it was such a revelation of my immaturity and it was such a revelation of how inexperienced I was at life. I think it's. It's so important to realize that aging is not just changing, it's gaining the wisdom that you know you have when you get older. You can the retrospect there.

Speaker 2:

There's so many gifts that come with aging that just are not present when we're younger. So why is it that way in humanity? I don't know, but that is the way it is. And so you make that excellent point, and I think it's so important to just not worry. If you're young, make peace with it. You will age. Enjoy it now, but then try and live a good life and age gracefullyfully, because that definitely can happen yeah, I think that that's a really good point about what you said about when you were younger.

Speaker 1:

I think that you know what I was thinking is that there's so much fear of aging, women aging right, because women, I think, historically, either have the belief or it's, I think, true that women become more irrelevant. You know, when we get older and I hope that this, like the conversation, shifts and I and you know you mentioned that there's wisdom that comes with aging, there's great wisdom that comes with our aging and that's seems to have been diluted or lost in the equation of getting older. So hopefully that will come, you know, keep building and coming back. Absolutely, I hope so. So I want to talk to you about you know, you mentioned also before that you wanted clean skincare, right when you were developing your products, and I know that you know that word clean and natural.

Speaker 1:

And you know, I know in the world of food, that the words natural or clean eating or they're sort of meaningless terms, right, the word natural is on, you see it on food labels and all natural and 100%, all natural it's really a marketing buzz term. It really doesn't have any definition to it, and supplements are the same. So what does that mean? So you probably see that in skincare. What do you mean by clean? You wanted clean skincare when you were developing your products.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for asking about that, because that is very important. A lot of these terms get overused and I think that clean easily means something different from brand to brand. Yeah, you can get in trouble quite easily if you don't really clarify. So I just want to preface that by saying you know the world of synthetic cosmetic formulation. Those people do not see anything wrong with the ingredients that they are using. And there's this big debate about is clean really good for you? Because you know, people tend to have this sort of farm to table or farm to face sort of idea about what natural is and what clean is, and that you can just go out into the field and grab some flowers and smash them up and put them in your lotion and that really doesn't do anything for anybody, except it just doesn't work. So there has to be some sort of synthesization of that natural ingredient to turn it, you know, to extract a powder, to extract an acid or fatty alcohol. It has to be transformed and so there is this debate going back and forth about which is better, which is why it's so important to really clarify what clean means, because some brands believe that clean means you know, across the board, there is absolutely not one synthetic ingredient in here, and that's okay. But then you have problems like preservation. So what is important to me is highlighting what, using the best, most potent, like the best ingredients that will bring the most results that are not synthetic. Um, they're so pretty much everything, with the exception of the preservative. Everything in my line is going to be plant-based 100 plant-based. It will be transformed in a certain way to be used, to be usable in a formulation.

Speaker 2:

But botanicals and let's just take magnolia bark extract, for example they're super high in antioxidants and it's important to. I'm going to give you a great example that a doctor gave me once a long time ago and it's always stuck with me. And he had a whiteboard and he drew a picture of a burning cigarette on it, like standing up, and smoke was going like this, and he said this is a human being. And he said when we're young, the very tip of the ash has been lit and as we age, the ash gets longer and longer and longer because we are carbon and we oxidize and so that's what happens to your skin and it was just a very vivid picture. And so antioxidants that's why they're so important, because they slow down that process of oxidation. The oxidation is something you can't stop, but you can slow it down, and so I look for ingredients with high that are rich and high in antioxidants, and so, you know, it's just really important to have that as a concentration in, you know, in your formulas.

Speaker 2:

Let's take another ingredient. Let's say hyaluronic acid. Hyaluronic acid is present in our bodies. It's a naturally occurring substance, but, just like everything else, when we age, the older we get, the less we have. And that's why hyaluronic acid is such a coveted ingredient, because even topically, you know, um, it can make significant improvements. I mean, you can get HA injections that will have a similar effect to Botox, um, but it's it's much more natural because it naturally occurs in your body and Botox doesn't. So, yeah, I think, natural to me and clean means using the best that nature has to give your skin the most benefits and the most chance to look beautiful and radiant.

Speaker 1:

So knowing that you have to take an ingredient and maybe manipulate it a little bit to put it into a skincare product and so it's usable on your skin, like you're saying, like you know, just taking like pulling herbs out of your garden and then like thinking that that's going to make a significant change, is not realistic.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean you know you have. You have all the different types of ingredients. You've got tinctures and you've got essential oils and you've got just extracts. And you know there are different ways to make to extract the nutrients the petals of, let's say, calendula, which is marigold, the petals themselves. Crushing them up and rubbing them in your formulation. That's where it helps. A lot of things need to have. They need to be very, very small particles in order to penetrate your skin. And so there's another example of why just going into the garden grabbing something, crushing it up or, you know, blending it, putting it on your skin, it's not really going to do much because it can't penetrate the layers. But when you do transform them, then the particles are smaller and they can penetrate.

Speaker 1:

So it sounds holistic and natural and clean, but it's not reasonable at all.

Speaker 2:

Right, right. I mean you know if you're eating, it sure I?

Speaker 1:

mean it's great.

Speaker 2:

Yes, but the skin is different. You know, the skin has a barrier. It's got so many layers before you get down to you know where the cells are growing and turning over. And it's that way for a reason because it protects us. You know that's the purpose of our skin is to protect us. So we have to work with it, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yes. So tell me okay I'm just now wildly curious about Magnolia Bark Extract, because I know that this is at the base of your skincare products and tell me just a little bit about that and how you found it and why you think it's so great.

Speaker 2:

So in the early days of learning formulation and I just have to say, you know, I was never really a great student when I was in school, but as I, you know, was in my fifties, just for some reason the love of learning about this stuff was just like hit me like a ton of bricks. It was so interesting to find out how these things were working and why they were working. And so I was creating products and I was using them and my friends were using them, and it was great. But someone said to me once you know what? What? What makes yours different? I mean, anybody can make a lotion, right, and she wasn't wrong at all. And so that really started making me think about what does make something different and why should someone pay attention to what I'm producing? You know, research is part of formulating and so it's. You're really never done if you want your products to be relevant. And so I just started thinking about different botanicals and I wanted to sort of branch away from what everybody was talking about. I live in the South, in Charleston, south Carolina. I live in the South in Charleston, south Carolina, and I just became interested in the magnolia flower, and that is after understanding and learning about roses and lavender and calendula marigold, all the well-known botanicals that you know really have significant benefits. So I investigated and it it took a long time because, you know you, you need anecdotal research but you also need the scientific based research, and so it it just takes a while. So in that research what I found was that the studies that had been done on magnolia bark extract were that it had two main biocomponents, and they're a mouthful is magnolol, the other one is hanokyal, and these two components or agents are the key to the what I like to call super antioxidant portion of magnolia extract, or the presence of that. Um, they just have been used and tested for so very long um centuries not tested for centuries, but used for centuries and tested for decades. That proved that it's not just great for slowing down the aging process because of the antioxidant levels or cell regeneration, things like that, but healing. There is a. They are powerful agents for healing. They have been tested for cancer research. They've been tested for different internal ailments, heart disease, things like that. Way back in the day it was also used for anxiety, to calm anxiety because of the aromatic, you know, aspect of it. It's been.

Speaker 2:

There's so many uses that people use it for, but in skincare it really is a powerful anti-antioxidant, anti-inflammatory and antibacterial. You can look at some big brands today and look at their ingredient list and you'll see Magnolia listed on there under its inky name, under its Latin name, and they're basically using it as a preservative or preservative booster, and so you know it's something that's used and I don't know why it's not more focused on. I'm kind of glad it's not because it helps me, but it's. It's a powerful ingredient and I have noticed a lot of really good results on my skin. I've used it for five years and I have a cleanser that uses it. That it's in.

Speaker 2:

Pretty much almost every product that I have has magnolia bark extract in it and it just it smooths your skin. It evens out skin tone. I am a very freckly person. Just since I was little I've always had a ton of freckles, but they're not really very present, and that is something that's taken place over the time of my using my products, and so it just it's very it soothes your skin. I just can't say enough about it. There's so many good things.

Speaker 1:

Well, I especially love the fact that you said that there's a lot of evidence behind it. I'm a big proponent of evidence-based research rather than just telling me, like you think it does this or it's hearsay, or testimonials, or you know. So I like evidence. Now, as a woman, you know I'm in my 50s and what would the, what would your? What does your skincare regime look like? What do you do every day to help your skin? Or what do you recommend for women, especially like over 40? Yes, great.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for asking. So I believe that simple is better, less is more. I have come to realize that a great portion of the people who use my products are mature women and they come to me and they say look, I just used a Dove bar, you know, wash my face every night or every morning and that's it. And then, maybe when I turned 40, I started. I just picked up, you know, a moisturizer at CVS and started using that. And they feel overwhelmed by choices and that's, you know. Fine, having choices is not a bad thing, but understanding what your face needs is really where you need to start. Your face needs is really where you need to start. And so I believe that washing your face once a day is a good starting point. And I say once a day because unless you have problem skin like, unless you still have acne, which many, many adults do, and it's not necessarily hormonal, it's caused by something else then if you don't have problems, then just wash your face once a day. A lot of women don't wear makeup and a lot of women do, but I wash my face at night because I just wash off the day. You know, when I go to bed I want to feel just like I've, you know, divested myself of my day, and so I wash my face at night and I splash water on my face in the morning, or I just, you know, get it wet when I'm taking a shower. It's not necessary to repeat the you know, removal and it just helps. You know, the natural oils remain the sebum. It's better for your, you know. Here's another buzzword microbiome. And microbiome is just, you know, a community of organisms that live on your skin, and so you just don't want to disturb it too much. And another reason why using less products is better for your skin because you're not disturbing that microbiome. I begin my day with splashing and then a moisturizer. I have a lightweight moisturizer. That is great. It's very good for your skin, it's got that hyaluronic acid, and so that's how I start my day just water and a moisturizer. At night is when I really focus on my skin. I have more time, I'm not in a rush, and so I wash my face, I use a toner.

Speaker 2:

The toner is so very important for two reasons, and I'll try not to be too long-winded. Soap disturbs the pH balance on your skin and it has to be that way, because people have tried to lower. Experts have tried to lower the pH of soap and it isn't soap anymore. It's going to up your pH balance. A toner is going to balance it out again, and so you know, looking at putting a toner out there for people to use, you can easily strip your face of sebum and natural oils that you want to keep there, and so my toner is going to be a moisturizing toner. It's got lots of amazing ingredients in it that we can chat about later. It's also very good for your face because it's going to remove, it's going to wipe away debris. It's going to sort of get out anything that might be left over in your pores. It's going to get rid of any leftover soap residue if you didn't rinse really well. So those are some really important reasons to use a toner.

Speaker 2:

Then, exfoliation is not something I do every day. I just do it once a week. Sometimes I just do it once every couple of weeks, and that's only because I'm using that toner every night, and so there is some exfoliating action going on there. But exfoliating is very, very important because you've got this layer of dead skin cells that are there and it's hard to get your skin. It's hard to get that glow that you want to see if you've got that layer there. A good exfoliator is not going to scrape your skin or cause micro tears, so you want to avoid something that's got walnut husks or hummus Some of these really fine powders are still will still cause micro tears. My exfoliator has jojoba beads, so it's a natural wax bead. It's not bad for the environment, it's great for your skin. But that's what I do to really help my complexion.

Speaker 2:

And then I use a moisturizer and a serum at night and serums. Depending on what you're using, serums can be a really wonderful overnight treatment. Think about it you have clean skin. You're going to go to sleep and just give it time to regenerate, and that's when a really good serum or really like a lot of women, really enjoy a heavy moisturizer for that reason, because they feel like it's like intensive on their skin. It's not a bad thing. So, yeah, so that's my routine and I have something called the Radiance Restoring Bundle and it's just those five ingredients you know, four daily, one weekly, which is the exfoliator. It's very simple. It doesn't have to be difficult and it doesn't have to be time consuming or expensive. You just want to feel good about how you look right, so simple is better.

Speaker 1:

Yes, definitely you said. Something that stuck with me is that a lot of women that you work with maybe have only used, like a Dove bar soap and what I mean. That's definitely has been me. I never really had a problem with my skin, you know, growing up, and I didn't really contend with acne. I was more concerned, I think, as a nutritionist, about what I was putting inside my body to affect my skin rather than what I was putting on top of my skin. But as I've gotten older, it's really confusing, you know. I think when you're it just wasn't really a lot of my focus until now. And now I'm, you know, just utterly confused because there's so many products and serums and and I know and I I am a big fan of simple is better.

Speaker 1:

So and and I'm looking at your skin. We're on zoom right now and I know you've got beautiful skin and so I know that your products are working and I like your routine that it's just a couple steps nighttime simple. So I understand that suddenly being overwhelmed by choices and not really knowing I mean I certainly have spent a lot of money on products that I get them and I'm like why am I using this? I have no idea why I'm using certain things, but I like that you simplify it. You know we need it in simple language.

Speaker 2:

It's really important. And you know, I think, that when you start aging, not only do you need simpler, but some things just don't work anymore. I know that. You know, when you, as you age, your skin thins and it can easily become cracked without you knowing it. And so a lot of times, you know, I've heard a lot of women say that I used to use this all the time and now it makes my face stain, and that's not a great experience. But it's not necessarily the product, it's your skin. And then some people are allergic to things that other people don't have an issue with. So it is a very personal thing and I just want to reiterate choices are not bad. You know.

Speaker 2:

I'm just really grateful that I, that we have choices as far as skincare goes, because of that fact, because what may be right for someone else isn't right for me. Definitely, what's right for a 20 year old is not right for me. So you have to find what works for you and you have to start somewhere. So you know, find a good cleanser. Find a cleanser that doesn't make your face sting or that doesn't dry. You know you don't feel like, oh my gosh, I've got to get some lotion on here right away. Um, after you wash, find what works for you and um, stick with it, don't you know? If you find something good, just stay with it, because if you like the results, there's no need to change.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's the problem, I think too, is that there's that shiny object syndrome. Right Is that? I mean, this is going okay and working well for me, but is there something better?

Speaker 2:

But, I agree with you.

Speaker 1:

Right? If it's working, why mess with it with you, right? If it's working, why mess with it? And it sounds like your products are really focused on women over 40 or in just midlife and you're really addressing that issue, and I love that. Your philosophy just comes from a angle of aging gracefully and aging well, and I think that's great. Lisa, where can people find you and your skincare products? Because I'm sure you are going to find people very interested in wanting to learn more Awesome.

Speaker 2:

Well, thank you for asking. My website is magnoliaskinessentialscom. I also, if you don't mind, I'll give you a link, but I also have a free skincare guide that will help women with mature skin. See, you know the the best ingredients for their skin. But yeah, magnoliaskinessentialscom. And if they register, they can get an instant $10 credit on whatever they purchase. Can get an instant $10 credit on whatever they purchase.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that's fantastic. Well, I will put that link in my show notes so everyone can get that. And thank you so much for coming on today and talking about our skin and all the aspects that go into it just taking care of our skin and our wanting to just keep our skin healthy and beautiful and aging. You know and what that means.

Speaker 2:

Well, thank you so much for having me. I definitely look up to you for food advice. That's so wonderful what you do, and thanks for giving me the opportunity to share.

Speaker 1:

Have a great day. Thank you, you too.