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How to Handle the Aftermath of a Fight Constructively (224)

Alan Lazaros and Emilia Smith

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The moment after everything gets heated. In today’s episode, Emilia and Alan break down why the aftermath of conflict can either deepen trust or quietly damage connection. They talk about conflict repair, fight languages, emotional flooding, limiting beliefs, and the relationship skills that help conscious couples stop repeating the same painful patterns.

This episode is also helpful for conscious singles who want to build healthier habits before love gets serious. If you have ever struggled to talk after an argument without making things worse, this conversation gives you a grounded place to start. Press play before your next fight hires a screenwriter and turns into a full season.

Show notes:
(3:20) Understanding your fight language
(5:43) Grounding during emotional flooding
(7:13) Conflict does not mean failure
(14:09) Moving past everything is fine
(18:32) Three steps for repair
(24:33) Outro

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Emilia Smith

(0:03) Conscious Couples, business partners, and individuals, welcome to the Conscious Couples podcast where we share our life, love story, and relationship expertise to help you consistently cultivate the most magnificent relationship possible.

Alan Lazaros

(0:18) Never again will you feel hopeless and alone in your intimate relationship challenges. (0:23) We'll help you have the courage to be your authentic self, communicate effectively, and constructively resolve conflict.

Emilia Smith

(0:31) Having accumulated thousands of hours coaching, speaking, podcasting, and hosting live events with Conscious Couples all over the world, Alan and I are here to guide you in all things relationships.

Alan Lazaros

(0:44) Thank you again for tuning into the one place where it's not about you or me, it's about the we. (0:55) Conscious Couples and individuals, welcome back to another episode of the Conscious Couples podcast. (1:01) Today we have episode 224, how to handle the aftermath of a fight constructively.(1:09) Before we jump into this episode, I want to remind everyone why we are here. (1:13) The one reason and one reason only we are here is to improve your intimate relationship from the inside out. (1:19) Remember, this podcast might trigger you, this might be harsh feedback, that is because we are here for that reason, to improve your intimate relationship from the inside out, no matter what it takes.(1:31) Sweetheart, you have so many clients that have dealt with this that really you, I want to ask your intention, but I first want to open with this. (1:42) Emilia, this is one of the episodes that Emilia has been frustrated she couldn't send as a resource to tons of her clients and in hindsight myself as well. (1:52) This is an episode that we think would be a great resource for couples and what's your intention?

Emilia Smith

(1:58) So my intention for you, dear listener, and for our conscious couples, conscious singles who are listening to this episode is to understand how powerful fights and the aftermath of them more in particular can be to growing together and using them as an opportunity to grow together instead of apart as a couple, because what we see often over and over again, fights happen, right? (2:22) Conflict is very natural. (2:23) It's a part of the human condition.(2:25) We've done episodes on that, but very few people have skills to be able to constructively come back together and do what's called a repair in a way that has you better off and the future you is looking forward to moments where you know how to handle these things better and so my goal is to help get that conversation started. (2:46) I know that we're going to do a relationship talks event on this in depth and we're going to continue to bring these skill sets forward, but for me as someone who is always seeing the obvious skills that are underdeveloped, this is something that we all struggle with and we need more skill tuning.

Alan Lazaros

(3:04) If you want in on that relationship talks virtual event, the link to register will be in the show notes.

Emilia Smith

(3:11) How to turn conflict into connection. (3:13) It will be June 17th at 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.

Alan Lazaros

(3:17) Nice. (3:17) I'm liking the 6 p.m. ones. (3:19) That's much better.(3:20) So there's something you created called fight languages and we're going to be talking about those in the relationship talks event, but just a little teaser here. (3:31) Everybody, at least listeners of this show, know what love languages are. (3:35) The 25 conscious love languages.(3:37) Fight languages is what's your tendency. (3:39) So for me, it's the lawyer. (3:41) So what exactly happened there?(3:45) At what time and in what way did you, you know, and there's a solution. (3:51) So there's fight languages, five of them, and then there's solution languages basically. (3:56) So that's just a little teaser for the event.(3:58) So register for that, but you wanted to do this episode because you wanted to send this as a resource to many clients. (4:04) Can you give us an anonymous example of a fight that you wanted this to be sent to a client so it could help them?

Emilia Smith

(4:13) So I was just on the phone earlier today with a client, shout out to you if you're listening, and she was talking to me. (4:19) We were going through the fight lingo bingo, which is essentially, what is your fight language? (4:24) So when essentially, when there's connection, everything's good.(4:28) You don't have to work on these skills, right? (4:29) But when there's disconnection or when there's conflict, that's when all of a sudden you want to know what your fight language is because how you handle conflict or how you run away from it has an impact on your relationship. (4:41) And we were going through those and I was helping her identify which is hers and which is our partner.(4:45) And she was like, oh my goodness, had I known this when I think three months or so ago, when I was in the driveway with my partner, we were in a fight about the dumpster. (4:56) He was putting his house on the market. (4:57) We were putting things into the dumpster and we just got in this fight and it blew up and out of control.(5:02) I just started spiraling. (5:03) And had I just stopped and she's the emotional flutter type, had I just stopped in the moment and do what you're referring to right now, Amelia, which is stop the spiraling through the specific technique that I shared with her, I would have realized that he loves me. (5:18) The reason why he's putting this house on the market is because he's trying to move in with me because he loves me.(5:23) He wants a future together. (5:24) What was the technique you shared? (5:25) But all, and I'll give that in a second, all that she could hear in that moment was, oh my gosh, he's not saying what I need to hear and he doesn't love me.(5:35) And it wasn't rational at all. (5:36) She was personalizing something that had nothing to do with them. (5:39) And essentially that drove them to a huge conflict down the road.(5:43) And so the technique that I shared with her in that moment, as you'll see in the fight lingo bingo, if you come to the event, it was essentially stop and ground and anchor yourself in the present moment. (5:53) Because when you're emotionally flooded or when you're out of connection with your partner, the emotional flutter type essentially gets dysregulated. (6:00) And like I shared with her is focusing in on all the potentialities of your future and what you're losing.(6:05) So we'll never get married or we'll never move in or all of that, which you imagine would happen. (6:11) It's just, it's, it's gone because this fight means that that will never happen. (6:15) And then at the same time, all of your past, when there was disconnection or conflict, all of that's flooding your nervous system and telling you to do or leave or whatever, right?(6:26) So you're, it's this dual experience that floods you emotionally. (6:29) So by grounding in the present moment, we use the stop technique, which is essentially just stop where you are. (6:35) Imagine an anchor using visualization and anchor, really dropping in and focusing on if you were to picture an anchor dropping from a boat down to the bottom of the ocean, like that slow technique, as you breathe to ground yourself in the present moment.(6:51) And so she was like, Oh my goodness, I wish I had this because it would literally stop me from spiraling because I spiraled and the stories that I was telling myself led to an even bigger conflict. (7:02) And she was giggling at herself because she was like, had I known what this is? (7:07) I think not, not would we have avoided conflict altogether, but it would have really helped given language to what we were going through.

Alan Lazaros

(7:13) So the core of this episode is essentially every, first of all, conflict is inevitable.

Emilia Smith

(7:21) Yeah. (7:21) No matter what. (7:22) No matter what.(7:23) As a matter of fact, we did an episode that I just shared to the same client recently. (7:27) Conflict is an invitation for connection, but yet we think it is the worst thing and we should avoid it at all costs, sweep everything underneath the rug.

Alan Lazaros

(7:34) Well, it's impossible to have no conflict. (7:37) Right. (7:37) That's impossible.(7:38) Literally. (7:38) It is possible thanks to you teaching me this when we first met to not fight. (7:49) And conflict is inevitable.(7:51) Fighting and destructive conflict is a choice. (7:55) And so the crux of this that I have in the center of my remarkable here is build from conflict. (8:00) So conflict is either going to be destructive or constructive.(8:05) You're either going to build the or tear the house down. (8:07) Every time you have conflict, we use the Jenga tower as a metaphor. (8:11) So you said that people don't know how to talk about it after conflict happens.

Emilia Smith

(8:16) They don't usually. (8:17) And I'm guilty of this in past relationship. (8:20) This is why I've learned these skills and I teach them not just because I think this stuff is cool, but because it's helped me so much in my relationship and my relationship with you.(8:30) And I've learned from my past mistakes, but ultimately what people have because of this belief around conflict, they try to avoid it or never go near it. (8:39) They just sweep all their problems underneath the rug. (8:41) And so what does that do?(8:42) It teaches you nothing on how to talk about what type of fight language do I have? (8:47) What is my nervous system go into when conflict and when disconnection occurs? (8:53) Am I more of a flight risk?(8:54) I just want to run away and run out the door so that my partner doesn't hurt me. (8:58) Or am I someone who tends to shut down in the moment and just literally goes numb and doesn't say anything, goes super quiet and then starts stonewalling unintentionally. (9:08) For us to know and have the language of how we navigate conflict, what type (9:13) of conflict we're having, the fight language that we use unintentionally, and then how we can repair (9:19) it and what's important to our nervous system, that allows it instead of getting swept underneath the (9:25) rug, which might be safe temporarily, it allows us to actually talk about what is happening in the (9:30) aftermath of a conflict.

Alan Lazaros

(9:32) You and I have a client that has had two long-term relationships and both of them, once he reached out of the honeymoon phase to the power struggle phase, they ended. (9:42) And he has since said that in hindsight, if I had known how to repair and build after conflict, I would, I mean, things would have been very different because by the time conflict happened, he thought that was kind of the end. (9:56) Right.(9:56) And it's like, so I want to go to the belief. (9:59) Let's attack the belief. (10:00) So the limiting belief is, there's a couple.(10:05) Here's a limiting belief. (10:07) One is, if we were meant for each other, we wouldn't have conflict. (10:12) That's not true.(10:13) Yeah.

Emilia Smith

(10:13) Not true at all.

Alan Lazaros

(10:14) Yeah. (10:15) Here's another one is, conflict means we're not meant for each other, which is kind of the same. (10:21) Conflict is bad.(10:23) What are some other beliefs that we have to attack here? (10:25) Because ultimately that's the root.

Emilia Smith

(10:26) Yeah. (10:26) Another one is, after the fight, what are some of the beliefs that I hear come up in clients is, he won't listen to me. (10:36) He has no capacity to listen.

Alan Lazaros

(10:37) Or it's not worth it. (10:38) I hear that all the time. (10:39) That's another one.(10:40) It's not worth it because he's not going to change anyway, or she's not going to change anyway.

Emilia Smith

(10:43) Exactly. (10:43) It's not worth bringing it up.

Alan Lazaros

(10:44) Yeah. (10:45) Maybe if you communicate like shit.

Emilia Smith

(10:47) Not only that, but I don't need to bring it up because like, not only is he not going to hear me out, but it's not going to be worth it. (10:55) He's like, I already know how he's going to react.

Alan Lazaros

(10:59) Okay. (11:00) That may be true. (11:02) What do you say to that?

Emilia Smith

(11:03) And I say, yeah, that very well might be true because given your past experiences, your brain's likely logging the pattern for sure. (11:10) However, if we want change and if we want to grow not apart after a relationship rupture, then it requires you to also change how you change your approach, control the other person. (11:24) However, if you change your approach, you can see if that pattern breaks.(11:29) And if it does, then you can assign that to yourself.

Alan Lazaros

(11:32) So what do you say to someone who changes their approach five times and the partner still gets defensive and it ends up uh, the pattern's not with you and my friend. (11:43) Yeah. (11:43) Okay.

Emilia Smith

(11:44) So how many, how many times do you think like three strikes you're out? (11:48) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(11:48) I'm a three person.

Emilia Smith

(11:49) Cause I think five, five is this, let's say for example, this is assuming you actually changed your approach.

Alan Lazaros

(11:57) This is not assuming you did the same thing five times. (11:59) Correct.

Emilia Smith

(12:00) And again, please don't take this like just like a topical use prescription. (12:03) Every relationship is different. (12:05) And the reason why I say that is because a couple is coming to mind where this person tried, tried their approach slightly different, but not a ton different.(12:12) And, and in that time, in the, in the five times that they had tried their approach, there was a parent that died, a huge life impact that happened in that in between. (12:22) And so things that are huge and impact people while they're trying to change, it impacts all the variables that are quote unquote, remaining the same.

Alan Lazaros

(12:30) I just came up for you. (12:31) Yeah. (12:31) I started smiling and I, at the wrong time, obviously, cause that that's unfortunate.(12:38) But, um, when, when you said someone who said they changed their approach slightly, I pictured someone jumping out of bushes, screaming, that's not going to work at all.

Alan Lazaros

(12:50) It's not going to work.

Alan Lazaros

(12:52) Yeah, exactly. (12:54) Um, I don't know why it just, I love, we love funny things like that. (13:00) That was from Dr. Doolittle too, I think. (13:03) Yeah. (13:04) I saw it as a kid and side tangent briefly, uh, they were talking about, well, come on, surprise her. (13:11) Girls love surprises.(13:12) And the bear in the movie was like, what do you mean? (13:14) Like jumping out of bushes, screaming. (13:17) It's like hilarious.(13:19) Yeah.

Emilia Smith

(13:19) What a ridiculous.

Alan Lazaros

(13:20) Definitely don't try that approach, but, um, I think it is funny, but never thought I'd referenced Dr. Doolittle too in this.

Emilia Smith

(13:26) Hey, you never know what comes up. (13:27) So to that end, really kind of the last thing that I want to name on that is if we can start to attack those limiting beliefs, right. (13:34) Going to the throat is awesome, but realistically people aren't doing that approach unless you're working with someone one-on-one, in which case definitely highly.

Alan Lazaros

(13:41) Which one do you have? (13:43) I mean, figure out which one you have, which one of those do you think it's supposed to be Mary Poppins and everything's great. (13:49) And the moment you have conflict that you're not meant for each other, that, or do you think that conflict is only attacked head on and, you know, so figure out your belief is around conflict.

Emilia Smith

(13:58) I want to give a shout out and you had, I sent you a screenshot for you to read. (14:03) If you want to pull that out, this I think would be the time. (14:05) So I want to name what you just mentioned before you bring that out.(14:09) So another, um, unconscious thing that happens, different generations have these shared limiting beliefs around conflict and everything is fine. (14:17) That is a limiting belief that then becomes the lid of your level of ability to resolve fights, address fights, and then grow together after a fight. (14:29) And that's this like, Oh, everything's fine.(14:31) That's you sweeping it on underneath a rug. (14:34) And I found that boomer and gen X or generations have this quote unquote blanket statement that they've had to use per the latch key generation that they are, that everything's fine. (14:45) And while I understand where, where that might come from, the downside of that is they're never learning how to name safely that I'm not okay.(14:55) I still feel not only not okay, but, but it's, it's fine. (15:00) Who wants to strive for fine? (15:01) That's not, it's not even emotion, right?(15:03) So like, everything's not fine. (15:05) I'm hurt. (15:05) I'm still mulling over what happened, having language to be able to address what the aftermath is for you.(15:12) That's really important. (15:13) And so we just want to give a shout out to someone that had reached out through our website today, uh, this week, actually, and reached out based on someone who has been with his partner for 21 years and was in a home where there was no awareness around emotional intelligence or how to talk about things like this, who had just reached out for relationship talks, coaching. (15:34) And I think that this testimony, obviously keeping it anonymous is really powerful because this person is only going to flourish by learning the words.

Alan Lazaros

(15:44) So I want to share this. (15:46) Amelia and I, so for me, for 11 years, you for seven, almost eight have been coaching individuals. (15:52) This is, we podcast and we train and we give speeches and all kinds of stuff, but, but coachings are one thing.(15:58) And so I have 7,156 coaching sessions. (16:02) I call it my magic number. (16:03) I track it every day.(16:05) And the reason I'm saying that is if you're out there and you have never done coaching, this is the picture. (16:15) 80% of my time and effort is going towards getting better at one thing. (16:20) Like you're imagine having Amelia and I in your corner.(16:24) It's unbelievable. (16:25) What's going to happen to your life. (16:26) Genuinely, we will take responsibility for your flourish, flourishing future.(16:31) And we will make sure you take responsibility and accountability too, but it's just huge. (16:34) So I'm so grateful. (16:35) This person reached out.(16:36) Amelia was as well. (16:37) So I'm reaching out for help with being more emotionally intelligent and being able to connect with my wife better. (16:41) I grew up in a single parent home and emotions were never discussed or shown.(16:46) I am stuck and don't know where to start and want to be the best version of myself for my wife. (16:51) Thank you for your help. (16:52) I love the ownership.

Emilia Smith

(16:54) Amazing.

Alan Lazaros

(16:54) Yeah.

Emilia Smith

(16:55) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(16:55) To me, the, the humility and the ownership of, Hey, I suck at this and here's why. (17:01) And I want to do better. (17:03) You're awesome.

Emilia Smith

(17:04) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(17:05) Great. (17:06) Perfect. (17:07) Can't wait to talk to you versus I didn't really like what you said on that one.(17:12) It's like, okay, take care. (17:14) It's been real. (17:15) So humility and ownership and, and, and just, I think you're not going to work on something that you, that you don't own.(17:22) You need help on you actually can't the admittance and the acceptance of, Hey, okay. (17:26) I suck at this. (17:27) I grew up in an environment that didn't teach me any of this.(17:30) We didn't learn any of this in school. (17:31) So email me now and help me. (17:33) Cause this is all you do.(17:34) Don't come to me asking me to be, you know, yeah. (17:39) Car mechanic, but your relationship that I could probably do. (17:43) Um, but no, but seriously, this is all we do.(17:46) We've been doing this for six years. (17:47) Like, please reach out. (17:48) Okay.

Emilia Smith

(17:48) Yeah. (17:48) Yeah. (17:49) So to close this episode, that aftermath of a fight is the, it's, it's everything.(17:56) It's like, I picture like football, soccer, tennis, anything you're behind the scenes in the locker room with looking at what you could do better and maybe wasn't as optimal as, as it could have been. (18:09) And in a fight scenario, what usually people cite is I said something that I didn't really mean, or I did X, Y, Z, right? (18:17) Like it's all this quote unquote regret.(18:18) What if you could definitely not, what if you could reverse engineer the regret in the future that you don't want to have with your partner? (18:25) That's where the aftermath comes. (18:27) So the ownership that Alan's talking about right now is have referred to with clients as like the pie.(18:32) So after a conflict or a fight, Alan and I will always refer couples to do what's called an experience review. (18:39) And we've done this concept in when it comes to other things, but this is particularly important after a fight, which is once the quote unquote heightened emotions have essentially died down, you come to the table. (18:51) Can we call it conflict instead of a fight?

Alan Lazaros

(18:53) Because we're not pro fight. (18:55) So, so we'll call it conflict. (18:57) I know you use fight languages, so I get it.

Emilia Smith

(19:00) But yeah, so after a conflict, after a conflict, essentially you have this dialogue where, Hey babe, can I talk about, or can we talk about, can we do an experience review? (19:08) That's a language where essentially you're, you're taking, this is what I noticed I contributed to the equation. (19:14) So the story that I was telling myself was that you got mad at me and that you didn't love me or this and this, this, the other thing.(19:20) So that's essentially like you taking your part of the pie and saying, I'm going to work on this for next time because I noticed that my dysregulation really got the best of me and I started spiraling out of control and I started believing things that actually weren't true, right? (19:33) That's my part of the pie that I'm going to take ownership of. (19:36) I'm going to work with my coach to work on so that we can do better in the future on that.

Alan Lazaros

(19:40) Don't you think you have in the experience review first, you have to get on the same page about what happened because what I've found is people have two different perspectives on the story. (19:52) Yes. (19:53) On the same, what actually happened.(19:55) Yes. (19:55) So the, the real steps are experience review is number one, which is essentially, what do you think happened there?

Alan Lazaros

(20:01) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(20:01) And then what do I think happened there? (20:03) And then now, now that we have the whole pie from both perspectives, now we can take ownership for our portions. (20:08) That's the second step.(20:09) So experience review and then ownership. (20:11) And then the third one is, okay, here's what I'm going to improve. (20:14) You kind of merge them all into one giant thing.

Alan Lazaros

(20:17) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(20:17) But those are the three steps experience review, take ownership, and then improve. (20:22) And that can be as simple as next time I'm going to notice when you're flustered, or it can be next time I'm going to make sure that I breathe and get centered, whatever it is.

Emilia Smith

(20:32) It's going to be focused on me. (20:34) That's what I would encourage any, any conscious couple to focus on your improvement is yours. (20:41) You're not, you're not going to focus on your other partner.(20:44) You're going to focus on you. (20:45) I know that might sound counterintuitive, but it's really important because only you can control you.

Alan Lazaros

(20:49) The fear there though is, if you take ownership and you have a partner who never does, they're going to, let's say someone comes back after conflict and says, Hey, here's my part of the pie. (21:03) Here's what I think I did poorly. (21:05) The other partner might be like, yeah, and go work on that.(21:08) Babe, seriously. (21:09) Fair.

Emilia Smith

(21:10) No, I know.

Alan Lazaros

(21:10) I know couples like this. (21:11) Same. (21:12) So, so what I, I want to make sure that if your partner is trying to give you parts of the pie that is not yours, you need to give it back to them and say, you eat this.(21:24) Uh, because you have to shield bump that because I had a partner in the past where I was pointing at me and she was also pointing at me and I got better and the relationship didn't, it got worse.

Emilia Smith

(21:34) You're like, here's my part of the pie and they're like, and I was just eating it. (21:38) I don't have any pie and then just chucking it over. (21:40) Yeah, exactly.(21:40) Like, like that's not, that's not fair. (21:42) And that's not what I'm talking about at all. (21:44) How do you know if you're taking too much pie?(21:46) That's a whole separate conversation. (21:48) Okay, cool.

Alan Lazaros

(21:49) All right. (21:49) So to be continued on that, but yeah, so experience review, talk about it, ownership, figure out what part of the pie is yours and theirs and make sure you shield bump if they try to give you too much and define one improvement that you want to work on.

Emilia Smith

(22:02) So for my client that I mentioned earlier there, the 1% that I gave her to work on that obviously given an understanding of her at a deeper level was she's going to work on the story that she's telling herself before she gets into that spiral, that number one approach, she's going to do the stop technique. (22:19) She's going to ground herself in the present moment and she's going to name that her mind is taking her into a spiral. (22:26) And that gives a little bit of distance for her to be able to choose a response that is helpful for her to stay present and grounded in that moment, as opposed to spiraling into the emotions that are the narratives that she's taking.(22:39) And what is her partner going to do? (22:40) I don't know, to be determined. (22:43) I would love for them to do RTCIO in the future.(22:46) I think that they would tremendously benefit from that. (22:50) But I don't know yet. (22:52) As a coach, what do you think the partner would benefit from doing anonymously?(22:57) So he is the withdrawer fight type based on what I've come to understand. (23:01) And I think that the biggest thing for withdrawers that will help them stay present is learn how to be in the same room while in a moment of conflict.

Alan Lazaros

(23:14) And so he should practice sticking around even if she gets flooded. (23:20) Correct. (23:21) Nice.(23:21) Perfect. (23:22) Okay. (23:24) Relationship talks, virtual event, how to turn conflict into connection, the fight languages, the lawyer.(23:30) These are great. (23:32) Fight lingo, bingo. (23:35) It will help you identify what your go-to is.(23:37) We all have a go-to. (23:38) Mine is the lawyer. (23:39) Please take ownership for this part and this time and then sign it, please.(23:44) No, I'm kidding. (23:45) But seriously. (23:46) And then there's an alternative, an empowering alternative for each one of these.(23:49) Fire. (23:50) Absolute fire. (23:50) I'm super excited.(23:51) So the registration link will be in the show notes. (23:54) Relationship talks coaching to that person. (23:56) So that person filled out a form.(23:58) It's anonymous behind the scenes, only for emailing eyes. (24:01) The first one is free. (24:02) Give it a shot.(24:03) I'm telling you, this is what we do. (24:06) This is all we do. (24:08) It's the best and it's my favorite work in the world.(24:10) And it's what I've decided in advance to master and remaster for the rest of my life. (24:13) So I know you feel the same way. (24:15) The inside out program, trauma, inner work, engineer, outer work, goals, dreams, the whole nine.(24:21) We both do both, but it's a whole thing. (24:23) So reach out. (24:24) It's more affordable than you think.(24:25) It is more affordable than you think. (24:27) Some of these people on YouTube are charging insane amounts. (24:30) So seriously, it's more affordable than you think.(24:34) As always, it's not about you or me. (24:36) It's about the way we'll talk to you next time.

Emilia Smith

(24:38) Bye everyone. (24:40) Thanks for joining us for another episode of the conscious couples podcast. (24:45) We love connecting with the conscious couples community.(24:47) So please check the show notes to connect with us and say hello on social media.

Alan Lazaros

(24:52) If you and your partner resonated with this episode, please leave us a five-star review at the link in the show notes and share this with someone you love until next time. (25:02) It's not about you or me. (25:04) It's about the way we'll talk to you next time.