Thrust The Machine

In this episode of Big Sexy Chat, Chrystal, Merf, and Asherlee dive piston-first into the wild, fascinating, and sometimes downright hilarious world of sex machines, electricity play, and the evolving landscape of pleasure tech. From the history of 19th-century “medical devices” to modern thrusting rigs, ride-on machines, smart toys, and hyper-realistic sex dolls, the trio explores the creativity, accessibility, and kink curiosity shaping today’s sex-positive culture.

You’ll hear:
 • What early “hysteria treatments” actually looked like
 • The legacy of queer and disabled communities in sex-tech innovation
 • The truth about devices like the Sybian, Motorbunny, Cowgirl, and thrusting machines
• How smart toys, remote-controlled vibrators, e-stim, and violet wands are changing long-distance and partner play
• Accessibility wins (and fails) in sex-machine design for fat bodies, disabled bodies, and anyone with chronic pain
• Why sex dolls and AI companions are becoming more common, including their emotional + therapeutic implications
• Real talk about safety, consent, sensory limits, grounding devices, and what not to stick anywhere

This conversation is part sex-tech history lesson, part kink education, part comedy hour. Expect curiosity, honesty, and plenty of “did we just say that out loud?” moments.

Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open: Playful Chaos
• 0:35 Welcome And Today’s Hot Topic
• 2:59 First Encounters With Sex Machines
• 4:34 Sybian And Ride‑On Devices
• 6:36 Power Outages, Charging, And Frustrations
• 6:37 Medical Roots: “Hysteria” Treatments
• 8:42 Gender, Consent, And Forced Orgasms
• 12:06 From 1980s Sybian To Modern Options
• 14:32 Queer And Disability‑Led Innovation
• 18:32 Smart Toys, Apps, And Long‑Distance Play
• 22:20 Hands‑Free Machines And Body Fit
• 26:04 Budget Hacks And Creative Setups
• 29:18 Electricity Play: Violet Wands And E‑Stim
• 33:39 Safety Basics For Electro Play
• 37:19 Sex Dolls: Realism, Storage, And AI
• 43:06 Partners, Toys, And Teamwork
• 46:09 Industry Trends And What’s Next
• 51:46 Butt Safety: Flared Base Only
• 56:46 Tease For AI Part Two And Closing

Transcript

SPEAKER_04: 0:00

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SPEAKER_03: 0:34

Hey there! Welcome back to Big Sexy Chat. My name is Crystal, and I'm so excited today. We're gonna have a really sexy, sassy conversation. And we're gonna be joined here by my co-host, Murph, of course, always, and the lovely Ash, who is our editor and co-producer, and we have some juicy stuff to talk about today. Hi, ladies. Hi, Crystal. Excited to have you with us today, Ash. I know you went down some rabbit holes. Tell us all about it.

SPEAKER_01: 0:59

So we recently had a conversation, our last conversation was with Raywa, and they talked about electricity play as one of their like their peak sex toys. And I was like, okay, say more. So it really got me digging into a lot of the sex machines that are out there, and we haven't had a conversation about this. We've talked about various things kind of here and there. Um, yeah, a few of the write-on machines and stuff, but we have not had a meaty conversation about sex machines. So I was really curious, and I I dug up a lot of history that I want to talk to you guys about, which was interesting. I found things that exist that I didn't know exist so much. But I mean, before we get into all of that, when you guys hear sex machine, what is the first image or memory that really comes to mind? I have one. Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 2:02

I just want to tell a little secret about myself. The only time I've ever paid for porn was to pay to watch girls having sex with fucking machines. Never paid for it since or before, just for a couple of months there. All I got in my porn was fucking machines, fucking machines. And I finally bit the bullet and I bought one, and um I was able to write it off. So I needed I needed one to write off that year. So I spent about two grand on a fucking machine, and so you said ride on to write off. Exactly, yeah. And um, yeah, the the one that I have and the ones that I always think of, which is just those machines that have like pistons, and it's like just it it does its thing no matter what you do. If you move out of the way, it still keeps going. If you get it in the wrong place, it still keeps going, it just does it. You don't you don't really have a lot of control over it. It's lovely. That's I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 3:05

I when I think of uh sex machine, you said what do you think of when you hear that? I honestly think of the foreign exchange student in the movie Can't Hardly Wait, when he says, I am sex machine. Well, teenagers teach him to say that. But after that, my next thought is um exactly what Crystal's saying. When I found out that there were machines that just kept on going, I I rabbit holed that for sure, and was like, I need to find out more information and see some of this. And I was not disappointed. I think that there is some really interesting stuff when it comes to sex machines, and I'm really, really curious about what you found and how it's different.

SPEAKER_03: 3:54

Just before the fucking machines was the Sybian, I'd always heard about the Sybian, and um, I did get to try one once. And the Sybian, you have to kind of like ride on it, you kind of like uh straddle it, and then the the the dildo part, the sex toy that does the penetration and the vibration, it doesn't really thrust, it's just mostly like a lot very strong vibration, like from you know, PG and E, like from the outlet, like that kind of electricity, and um kind of like the Hitachi Magic wand, but stronger, and it's okay. I thought it was like for like$2,500. I was like, yeah, yeah, whatever. I still had to do all the work, you know. But that's the one I knew from porn and stuff. I'd heard about it. The Civi and Civian is it's also really unattractive, at least it used to be.

SPEAKER_02: 4:40

It's bulky, it's it's difficult to you know maneuver around. Um I you know, I enjoy the one that we have, the cat, the uh unicorn, the cowgirl. Um it's it's nice, but like you said, yeah, it's a thing. You gotta it unless you have a sex room, right? You're taking this thing in and out of the box and setting it up and plugging it in and putting a mat under it. And it's it's a lot. And so the sex machine that I'm thinking of that you described, Crystal, with like just the pistons and going, there's no effort, right? Like, and I think that was the whole point with like kink.com and those kinds of sh videos where it was just like the girl is tied up and the machine is fucking her and she can't stop it or change it or do anything, you know, about it.

SPEAKER_01: 5:30

You imagine what happens with those plug-in ones, like while you're just mid going at it, and then the power goes out, the plug-in ones you're just fuck that.

SPEAKER_03: 5:41

That's terrible. You're actually not fucking that at that point.

SPEAKER_01: 5:46

You're just sitting there and you're just sad, right? You're just like going, going, and then done.

SPEAKER_02: 5:52

I've had that happen so many times with like the you know, vibe not being charged, and it it kills the vibe, literally.

SPEAKER_01: 6:00

I've definitely had vibrators go out, like just the battery die mid, and I'm like, that's awful, and then you're like scrambling for whatever one will get the next, and then you realize they're all dead. It's the whole thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 6:15

And you're irritated and no longer turned on, and yeah, I'm gonna go get you know something to drink and have dessert or something instead.

SPEAKER_01: 6:24

Yeah, yep. So, in all of those things that you guys mentioned for devices, what I didn't hear is that you thought of a treatment for hysteria. So, in the the very first, like sex machines aren't new, and not even just vibrators, like sex machines in the 19th and early 20th century, like mechanical vibrators. It was invented as a device, a medical device to treat hysteria. They were steam powered, hand cranked, water pressured, or even table mounted, and they were used by doctors to avoid the fatigue of manual stimulation.

SPEAKER_03: 7:10

I want a doctor to apply a sex machine to me. I'll call for that, okay?

SPEAKER_02: 7:18

Right? Like it I mean, I feel like I'm pretty fucking hysterical even now. End of the 21st century. Like, come on, like if hysteria is a reason to get a sex machine as a treatment, sign me the fuck up.

SPEAKER_01: 7:38

Right? Like, can we use our FSA cards for that at that point? Right. Now this is covered under my FSA. I love that it's like they only later became household appliances, but first you would go to your doctor and he'd be like, strap in, darling. Let me let me hand crank you some calm.

SPEAKER_02: 8:07

Well, and can can you imagine like now, if that were the case, they'd be like the premium that they well, first of all, they would do a tar and make sure that you know, are you authorized to even have that treatment? And then once you got it, like it would be so ridiculously expensive with what they would do for that. Like back in the day, just a doctor sitting there hand cranking you off. Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01: 8:38

Like, what's great is that I mean, great quote. I'm air quoting here. What's great is that hysteria was really only treated with women. So, like the these toys, these toys, these medical devices were only used on women. There were no medical devices to treat men for hysteria. So it was really just an excuse for doctors to get off women.

SPEAKER_03: 9:01

First of all, the Dr. Dreamy Steamy, what was the doctor on the television? They're very dreamy. Yeah. Also, I don't know about you guys, but I've never ever ever ever ever worried about a man's orgasm. Not even once in my life, not even for a second. They're masturbation ninjas. We know this. They can masturbate in five to ten seconds if they have to. That's why they're not hysterical, air quotes. Uh, because they just they rub one out all the time whenever they want to. It's so easy for them. And back in the old days, and probably still today, they probably didn't have the problem of like, mom, mom, mum, mom, someone chasing you around the house. Even when you go poop, your kids are right there. Like, when are you gonna masturbate? You can't even poop in fucking peace. So that's why I'm not worried about that.

SPEAKER_01: 9:48

I can attest, I can't even go to the bathroom without a creature or a human being in the bathroom with me.

SPEAKER_02: 9:55

Yeah, I'm gonna need the doctor to prescribe uh a treatment.

SPEAKER_01: 9:59

Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with uh the sex robot 2000. Yeah. Well, and Murph has met my doctor, and I don't know. Can you imagine me going to Dr.

SPEAKER_02: 10:09

Roberts and having this conversation where, like, hey, I mean, no, but I mean, he's cute, so I mean, at least that you're getting a little I can't imagine it, but I think it might be fun.

SPEAKER_03: 10:28

Not to bring up negative stuff, but like Neil Darkers are already sometimes a little creepy.

SPEAKER_02: 10:34

I like to like sitting there like cranking it.

SPEAKER_00: 10:40

Are you are you there yet? No. Are you less hysterical? No, sir. I am more hysterical. You two know about forced orgasms? Yeah. No, actually, I I would like to hear about it.

SPEAKER_03: 10:56

So a forced orgasm is like, of course, you consent and you have your partner, whatever, tie you up or put you somewhere, and then they kind of um they work on you, so to speak, doing all kinds of different ways. And you sometimes think they use like a machine on you, like a Hitachi Magic 1. You might, even though you're not really trying to have an orgasm, you're kind of like forced into having one. It's kind of like a kinky thing that people do together to to force each other to have an orgasm. And it's kind of a fun thing to play around with, you know. It's um you have to definitely have you know someone you trust, and you have to consent, of course, lots of enthusiastic consent. And then that that person, I think I couldn't be forced to have an orgasm because I feel like I have to be in the right mind. Turns out that's not true when you have a lot of really serious vibration on your clitchers, at least for me. And um yeah, I was like, there's no way, there's no way. Oh, well, I was wrong. Whoops.

SPEAKER_01: 11:59

I just more than forced. I love it. That really kind of takes us into the sex positive angle of things, which is really like when things started developing more because we have this whole 19th and 20th century rabbit hole that I went down. And the Sybian, you mentioned the Sybian, so like the big shift that was really like the big shift when the machine age of sex machines started, and that was invented in the 1980s. So, like, I was I was a wee baby, I was a wee baby when Dave Lambert decided Sybian, that's what we're gonna do. And it like he designed it was specifically for female pleasure, which I I mean that's just it's beautiful. That's a beautiful thing that in the 80s, because of sex positive women's circles and so many other things and the porn industry. Howard Stern like yeah, like totally remember it from there. Yep, they like this really brought it to light.

SPEAKER_03: 13:01

Oh, he was, yeah, that was and the spanking machine too on Howard Stern. Um, Murph, didn't the Hitachi Magic 1 just turn 50?

SPEAKER_02: 13:10

Uh yes, I believe they did. So that's and they just released their waterproof um vibrator.

SPEAKER_03: 13:16

It's quite expensive, but damn. Yeah, that was, but you know, it was also invented to be a back massager. Air quotes. Because yeah, nobody wants it. It's not very cute, right? It might look a little bit like our microphone in our logo. No wonder.

SPEAKER_02: 13:33

I, you know, but I was thinking about that. Um, a lot of the therapy muscle guns now are being used in that way too. It was very much a, you know, a modern type sex machine that you can walk around it with your hand, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 13:50

And that's like that's the thing is that that really started so many things that that it then we have the Hitachi Magic Wand. We have so many things that launched from that. So the Sybian launched Motor Bunny, Cowgirl, better attachments, stronger motors, like safe, safer construction, which is good. There was better price points, which I know that um that that's a big thing because these are these are expensive. And this was mean in the 2000 to 2010s. I mean, really expensive. And I don't know. Do you guys know if there's any kind of cheaper options for these sex machines?

SPEAKER_03: 14:32

Yeah, there's something called the drilldo. It's basically um, yeah, like it's out. You can see your your actual drill that you might use to stuff around the house. So you can put a dildo on it with this special thing to it. I know my my Dominix friend, uh Mistress J, she has a drilldo. And it's really just like a machine that you use for construction, but then you can attach a dildo to it. So that's kind of like lower price, but you definitely get the and her clients love it. You know, they really they want to be drilled by the drilldo, and it's an affordable way, especially if you already have a drill laying around the house. Um, you just attach this special kind of dildo, it's called a vacu lock, and then you could turn any power tool into a bummer.

SPEAKER_01: 15:15

That reminds me of those reels or people like put the corn on the cob on the drill, and then they knock out the feet. It's like that's what I'd be afraid of.

SPEAKER_03: 15:25

See there goes there goes McClit. I want to say too, since we were talking about who brought what, when, and where, we we have we owe a lot of a debt of gratitude to queer women, queer women really brought the Hitachi Magic wand out of the map, the back massager room and into the bedroom. They just really push it forward. And that's like some people call it mommy's massager because you can leave it out if your kids buy a date. It doesn't look like a drill dough. It doesn't look like a big honking penis. You know, not everybody wants something that looks like a penis, which is why the Hitachi Magic Wand was so popular in a lot of queer communities because it doesn't look so heteronormative.

SPEAKER_01: 16:02

Yeah, I definitely saw that there was a lot of in general, just I mean, the sex positive world and community one. I mean, we bought the free love era, but the LGBTQIA plus community really bolstered a lot of things for everybody. I mean, there is just so much awakening and positivity and acceptance that has been birthed from society starting to accept more of this and and them becoming more present and more visible and speaking out and demanding better and more accessible pleasure devices, which I think is a beautiful thing.

SPEAKER_03: 16:47

Yeah, it's the disability community too, the the Hitachi Magic wand is very, very highly spoken about and it's very common and well known in the uh the community for people who have disabilities and stuff that are like out there, you know, talking about these things. Like my friend Shannon Roquel, she's always talking about, you know, disability and about you know, sex twists and things like that that can work for people with different, different, you know, some people have issues that are visible, some people have issues that are not visible visible. And there's a million reasons why you might use a tachi match ball. And it does feel fantastic on your neck, by the way.

SPEAKER_02: 17:20

And I I think this highlights that that discussion, right? About accessibility. We are trying to get a petition signed um to request that womanizer bring back that long extension um womanizer, because we have talked about this multiple times on the podcast, but you know, it really does make a difference. And I think with when we're talking about, you know, abled-bodied people or whatever, I don't know what the word, the correct word is to use for that, but um it's so it's so one-sided. Like it's just like, oh, this is what we're gonna make, and this is the standard, like you go into a sex toy store and it's like the same thing by a different company every single time. But it's like the ones that actually look at uh let's make this for different bodies, or let's make this accessible for other people, or let's think about how this is gonna, you know, go with the shape of the body, or that has changed the game for so many people. And when you were mentioning the LGBT population, when people are living their truth and exploring their sexuality, you're gonna find really amazing things. So if we don't, you know, if we weren't in a culture that really shunned that, imagine where we would be.

SPEAKER_01: 18:42

Yeah, I think that accessibility is a huge part of all of these machines. These machines have made pleasure accessible to a wide range of bodies, not just the Hitachi Magic Wand, but I mean, so I mean, if we want to list off right a lot of these, I mean, we're talking about a lot of the other things we want to talk about as far as machines go, but the ride-on machines. So the Sybian Motor Bunny, Cowgirl, the Thrust Machines, ESTEM, smart toys. Like smart toys have made accessibility huge for people who have difficulty moving certain parts in their body or who have inflammatory issues. Or, I mean, as somebody who has EDS and POTS and a lot of things, inflammatory things of my body, there are definitely days where I'm like, I can't. I can't. And these toys, these machines, have created an ability for still experiencing pleasure during times where there is still pain, where there is a lot of hindrance in motion. And I think that that is a really, really important and powerful part of having all of these devices.

SPEAKER_02: 20:10

It's something we don't talk about, right? Like we don't talk about this as a culture because there's so much um there's so much repression. And so, you know, when you think about how you open up this for different bodies and different body types and all the, you know, all the other things, can we make this accessible for multiple people and what they're experiencing? The game changes. And sex toy, like I know we're gonna get like deeper into all the things that are sex related in in terms of technology. This is like the thing that if we can get the basics down and the fundamentals down, imagine what else we can do.

SPEAKER_03: 20:56

There was a lot of years there when all they was doing is selling sex toys, and it just used to be like another version of the rabbit, another version of the rabbit. Rabbit gives you twice as nice pleasure, penetration, and clitoral stimulation. And there's like purple ones and blue ones and ones that thrust and ones that don't, and it's like fine, okay. And then came the womanizer plus, and that's when they started adding the air technology to the toys, and then they made the the womanizer plus extra long, which works great for fat bodies. And now, you know, I sold hundreds of those womanizer pluses because they're I was like, you guys, it's easy to read your clit, and it just suctions on there, and like that was something new compared to another rabbit. And I love the rabbit, but you know, not everybody in the world wants to have vaginal penetration. Not everybody has a vagina, not everybody wants to have anal penetration, some people just want the clitoral stimulus. I mean, it's nice when there's something that like the womanizer that and the satisfier that brings something new to the table besides another toy that gives you vaginal penetration.

SPEAKER_02: 21:56

Well, exactly. And I love that like the toys now like are meant to somebody else can control it via remote, you know. So, how many of us, you know, have experienced a long-distance relationship? Makes things a lot easier when you get a toy to play with while you're doing that, you know? It it gives people access to things that they hadn't previously had. And if we go with that mindset moving forward, there's so many cool things that can be done.

SPEAKER_03: 22:27

You know, which what population of people that love those toys that can be handled, can be uh managed by cell phones and stuff, are military families. Yes, people are all over the world and they have all kinds of ways to do that.

SPEAKER_01: 22:42

So I'm sorry, Ashley, what were you gonna say? Oh no, I was thinking the military is great. That's a fantastic. I hadn't thought about that either. Um, I was gonna say also the polyamory community. Like that's huge. Those are huge within the poly community because you're not always in the same space. In fact, a lot of the times you're not in the same space um as any particular partner. So a lot of people do use them. I mean, and you talking about the smart toys, like the the great things about them for people who don't know what smart toys are, we've talked about them before a little bit, but like We Vibe has a good selection of them. But I mean, they're app controlled vibrators, plugs, sleeves, paired devices, anything that pairs to an app on your phone or it can have a remote control. But the ones that pair to your phone specifically, those are the ones that can be controlled by military families, by people who are long distance, by people who are in relationships, and they can pair to multiple devices. So that app, that same app can pair to multiple devices, or that one device can pair to multiple accounts. Um, and I mean, it's great for long-distance couples. There's personalized patterns. It's, you know, it's not always perfect. Sometimes it can be a little bit glitchy. Sometimes there's some privacy concerns. So there's there's it's not always perfect, but the the ability to have that is something that we did not have before. And it's like it's such a cool thing to be able to have it. And in this age of machine pleasure, you know, it's it's a really interesting advancement.

SPEAKER_02: 24:25

Yeah, I I saw one of them a long time ago. I think that is controlled by music or like it can like change the the rhythm. Like that's so cool. Imagine at some point somebody being voice activated to do it, you know, or there's there's technology being built that I'm sure at some point will be like, I'm gonna write you a love letter with my tongue, baby, and it's gonna be purple.

SPEAKER_01: 24:50

Like, you know, like that's it's cool. I love that. I think that's a beautiful idea. And yeah, We Vibe does have that. I want everyone to be able to see what you just did with your face. I just stuck my tongue out and went, uh, uh yeah, so I mean, those are really, really cool toys. I mean, we we have these. I mean, you were talking about Crystal, like not just having this the thrusting thing, not just having the vaginal penetration, which is a lot. I mean, there's a lot of that, like the Sybian, the motor bunny, the cow girl, those really are honestly, right? I mean, designed for thrusting. They're designed for vaginal penetration for the most part. I know that there are some that also have clitoral stimulation, though, right? Yeah, the Sybian vibrates.

SPEAKER_02: 25:43

Yeah, Sybian and uh the cowgirl does, so does motor bunny and um cowgirl just put out um the saddle, which is like it's not attached like the Sybian, so you can like rock back and forth with it between your legs. So yeah, I mean they're they're just advancing all this technology.

SPEAKER_01: 26:03

So I mean, the the cool things about those, right? I mean, for like talking through for people who don't know what these are, because we talk about them and we know what they are, but I I think that there are definitely people who don't. So, like, one, these things are designed for hands-free orgasms, right? Like you you've probably seen them in porn, you've probably seen them here and there. I mean, they look like what they look like the ride-on saddles for like the the uh, I mean, they look like ride-on saddle with a toy attached.

SPEAKER_02: 26:35

Yeah, and if they you can choose the type of toy too, so it doesn't have to be like mentioned, it doesn't have to be penetrative. It could just be that you're like rubbing your clit against it or rubbing your butthole against it.

SPEAKER_03: 26:48

The Sibiaid has smaller attachments too for people who want to use it for anal penetration or even like just anal stimulation.

SPEAKER_02: 26:55

The problem is though, with those that I've found with those, is that you gotta have a lot of knee stamina. Like, you know, it it's it's accessible in certain ways, but also like for fat-bodied folk, it can be kind of uncomfortable, especially if you've got like really big thighs. You gotta spread your legs pretty far apart to be able to like get in the crevice, and you know, it's it's just designed a little differently.

SPEAKER_01: 27:23

That's what I was gonna ask next, is actually like what is the real accessibility? Because I obviously haven't used them, but you guys have seen them more. So, I mean, are there other things that fat bodies can use to support themselves while so they can still use it?

SPEAKER_03: 27:41

Yeah, I felt a little bit impaled when I was on the uh Sybian. I was like, okay, I guess I'm I guess I'm going with that. I'm just gonna stay here. Because there was like, yeah, it was a lot. Like out thighs and the thought, yeah. I was like, okay, I'm impaled with a plastic dildo that's vibrating really, really hard, which is fine. Like, yeah, that's probably probably why I like my fucking machine better. Um, because it does all the work. So you just have to get in position. You know, you can have it angled. So if you want to be laying on your back or if you want to be dogging style, you can angle your body and you can angle the toy, and then it can do its thing wherever you want it to do. So it's a little more um if like I bought it really when I was kind of like, you know, not having much sex. And so I was like, here's I'm gonna have sex all anytime I want to now. And that's kind of what it is. And you know, something I didn't bring up about that, that the fucking machine too. We talk about poly people, but people who are maybe like um more open relationships and stuff, maybe it's uh kind of like a way to have two penises in one room without being attached, both of them to a man. So, you know, you can that's you could be doing one thing with the fucking machine, and then you can be using other parts of your hands or your mouth or whatever on your partner. And so it's kind of like being kinky without without going outside of your relationship, maybe I guess. Um so it's a nice way to have two people in one room, but only one ego.

SPEAKER_01: 29:04

Only one ego. If you were to describe what they look like for people who don't know what a thrusting machine is, like would you describe it as kind of a mechanical rig that holds onto a dildo and that you kind of hold in place?

SPEAKER_00: 29:18

How would you describe what they look like for people who have never seen them? Mine has like feet, two like feet, like a looks like a desk would.

SPEAKER_03: 29:31

But then it had um, you can lift one side up and then tighten it down and then you know move the other side down or up, you can make it go straight across. It has like those little bolts in it that kind of hold them in place higher or lower. And so, like if I was if I was in the position for a dog, you still have it more level. But if I wanted to lay down, I would put one end up that the motor end and the dildo end lower. And then um, and then you have like a little uh cord and a little remote control so you can turn it higher or lower if. Faster, slower. You could go really slow, like really slow, or really fast, like whoa, whoa, too fast. Don't like I said, don't get more acquisition in it. Because woo, no one wants accidental.

SPEAKER_02: 30:16

And um, yeah, it's very robustly uh get an apesiotomy from a sex machine.

SPEAKER_03: 30:24

No, thank you. Um it's very intense. Well, it's it's plugged into the wall, it has a lot of power, a lot of thirsting power, and you can change the dildos you put on the end of it. Um and it's yeah, it looks very machine-ish, you know, very industrial.

SPEAKER_02: 30:40

I think that's kind of why I like it though, when when I see that kind of porn, is because it's just like I I don't know, my brain mentally kind of goes to a place of like there's no stopping it, you know? It's just like it's gonna fuck you, like no matter what, you know. So it's it's just kind of like it's almost like you're giving up consent, even though you are consenting to it. Like it kind of gives you that.

SPEAKER_03: 31:06

Um, I don't know what's the what we talked about with the doggy style strap. I was saying you're kind of you have to take it, you can't go where it's kind of like that giving up the power, it's like a power exchange. In a way, in your mind, you're kind of fucking yourself mentally. Like, I can't go anywhere. He's got me, I have to just take it right now. That kind of play, you know, if you're into that kind of intensity.

SPEAKER_01: 31:27

So, my question with that is so is it does it stand on the ground?

SPEAKER_03: 31:31

Yes, you can put on the ground, you can put it wherever you want. It's like it's so sturdy, it's like two grand, it's like a little table with a huge machine in the middle of it, and it just has this piston, but it's just wild.

SPEAKER_01: 31:43

My thought was like if it goes on a bed, you know, like what if you're what if you're in the midst of it and it just like crashes on top of you.

SPEAKER_02: 31:52

Yeah, I don't think you could do it on you'd have to put it on like a flat surface that's okay, you solid.

SPEAKER_03: 31:57

Also, when a when a larger person gets on the bed, the whole bed sinks in, you know, and then if you get too large, people put that you get a machine on the bed, it's all just like you're just like a taco, basically. Right.

SPEAKER_01: 32:08

That's that's what I was imagining. I was literally like imagining this visual image of a beam on a bed and just tacoed with a machine that's just you're just you're just laying there like, well, this is my life now.

SPEAKER_02: 32:24

Taco sex machine, new band name, I call it.

SPEAKER_03: 32:28

So at the at the beginning, you guys I know of a budget way to have a a sort of a fucking machine. And I heard one of my friends who's a sex worker, she would take her bed and take a dildo, a longer dildo that vibrated, and she like a rabbit, let's say, for example, and put it between her mattress and her box rings, and it would be so that it would just stay, and it would be she would turn it on and have it going, but then she would be backing up to it and like doing herself doggy style. And uh, she would kind of do that for some of her clients that were had disabilities and things like that, who couldn't really participate, but they wanted to watch. And so she would make this whole thing up on her bed, and then she would just basically screw herself silly up against her bed. And then, you know, the person was watching, you know, she could be helping them out with their hand or whatever. But it was just a way to if, like, especially if they had issues with their penis, they had erectile dysfunction issues or other kinds of problems, then she could kind of like suck herself. And I was like, that is so freaking brilliant. And you guys, I did pleasure brightness for 10 years. I told every single party ever, I need you guys to know about this just in case you're ever in this position, or you're just home alone and horny, which you know, people get very creative when they're home alone and horny. This this girl put it in between her bed, her box spring and her mattress and just would fuck herself. I was like, that's so brilliant. People are so resourceful.

SPEAKER_01: 33:50

We think of the weirdest things, you know, just like as human beings, we come up with some of the most bonkers ideas that work like just that just work like out of necessity.

SPEAKER_03: 34:03

This is the sexiest thing on your body, is what's between your ears. That's what makes you sexy. Your your creativity, your resourcefulness, and your um your crazy kinky horniness.

SPEAKER_01: 34:14

Your imagination, as Marila would say. Speaking of which, that takes me into some of the things that I had like this was a brand new thing because I really hadn't heard about electricity play. And I know Murph was really excited about all of that. So, so I the violet wand, which we we heard a little bit about, right? It creates an electric arc that gives surface level zaps and spark trails along your skin. ESTI, which creates like the concept of it, is electrical pulses that create muscle contractions or tingly sensations in your body. So, like these are two electricity focused things that are machines that I'm curious if you guys know more about.

SPEAKER_02: 35:09

So I don't know a ton about it. I know that you have to have like a stabilizing unit, um, or whomever the person is that's applying it to you has to have that. Um, I went to a it was like a couples event at our local sex store, and they were displaying new product, and there was a um glove that you could put on that had electricity. And the lady was like, Do you want to try it? And I was like, Oh, okay, you know, like and then she like just kind of like tickled her fingers down my arm. The and I was like, Holy shit, I want this. And it was so expensive at the time, and I was super broke, so I never purchased it, and I have not been able to find that glove since then. I've seen the violent wands, I uh all the different, you know, specific toys that you can buy that do that, but I have not seen that little. It was a glove, and she just put it on two fingers, and the the stem would, you know, like she'd basically tickle you with it, and it would do the little electrical pulse. Um, so that's all I know. I know that you have to have that grounding tool on you if you're doing it, um, and that you can like change it to be like really, really sharp um sort of electricity, or kind of like that tingly, soft, like playful electricity.

SPEAKER_01: 36:44

What about you, Crystal?

SPEAKER_03: 36:45

Yeah, Virgo, I was gonna say it's kind of like electrology. Someone has to hold the ground. So it's the same thing. Basically, electricity needs a circuit, a complete circle. So that ground thingy that they hold or that you hold is what's completes the circuit. So, same thing with those thrays. Somebody, somebody has to complete the circuit. So it has to go all the way from from the machine back to the machine. That's the circuit.

SPEAKER_01: 37:07

The gloves that you're talking about are related to ESTEM, because that's an electronic stimulation. They are ESTEM gloves. Like uh Miss STEM, I think is one of the ones that I saw. I was just trying to look up the name right now. Um, but they it does, it connects to like it's kind of like like um like anyone who's ever had, I mean, anything with their heart or anything on their body, right? Where they have the sticky pads and the different electric pulses go through you, or um or the period simulators, or you know, all those things that stimulate contractions and stimulate um like a tens unit. Yeah, the e-10s unit. That's that's basically what an e stem is, except like it's focused. So the e stem gloves focus it so that way it can be on your skin and it can create a lot of different sensations.

SPEAKER_03: 38:03

We have the violet wand, it's other little attachments for that too. And it's really length, it's really intense, it just intensifies your climax, it intensifies the sensation. Like if you have someone use it to touch as your touch your nipples or your clitoris or any, you know, sort of like tend I call that the soft underbelly when I'm here at work, like the the softer parts that don't see sunlight all day long. Those areas are very stimulated by the um violet one toys. It's still really good on your your softer parts of your body, you know, that aren't so like weathered.

SPEAKER_02: 38:37

She did the inside of like the inside of my forearm, and that's like oh, like that soft, soft skin. And I was just like, wow, this feels like really good. Um, but I I mean I could see where when it's on your, you know, genitalia or you know, some place, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 38:56

It's gonna be like, ooh, wow. Yes, and just because we are a podcast and public facing, I want to make sure that we list off some of the safety basics for some of these things because they do list off things like be careful if you're gonna use it below the waist. A lot of them recommend not using them below the waist. If you have a pacemaker, probably not a good idea to use. Uh like start low. Wall voltage go up as your body gets used to it, uh, and avoid crossing the heart. So there's some base, just some basic safety things. So we're not like recklessly out here telling people to go electrocute themselves.

SPEAKER_03: 39:40

Yeah, that's really smart. And also, I don't know, I don't know if you know this, but you know, sex toys are usually not called sex toys, they're called devices. They because most of the people that make sex toys don't want to take on the risk of you of you, you know, doing something and hurting yourself. So they don't often get called really what they are. Most people get they're called novelty, that kind of thing, you know, unfortunately. Um, because they they have to assume everybody has like a third grade education and um they have to make sure that you know people don't hurt themselves. But you know, people hurt themselves all the time. But yeah, we don't want to encourage anybody to hurt themselves. Obviously, we want to make sure you're smart about these things and you know, definitely follow the directions. But I mean, we all know what's gonna happen when you have something that you're gonna put on your clip. You know, it's just how it is. I mean, right, definitely be careful. Also, about pacemakers, we should definitely you know consider that, make sure that's something you consider. I definitely have to consider that in my work too. And also, there's like all these things where you have to depend on the pacemaker. Like, oh, you know, we don't know any of that stuff. We're not experts in it, we're not doctors or medical people, but just yeah, you should definitely take your own situation into consideration and make sure you think about that kind of stuff too. The ground, it's not gonna work without the ground, so you don't have to worry about that. You have to have the ground where it doesn't work.

SPEAKER_02: 40:50

And I think, you know, for um those types of toys, uh, anything like you mentioned, you gotta go slow. When it's something new that you have not been used to, if you go running into that, I mean you're basically sticking a fork in an outlet. Like, don't there's no reason to be doing something stupid. Um, we live in the in an age now where you can look this up on the internet and find instructions. You probably could even find a YouTube tutorial on what you can and cannot do. Like, we want you to be smart about this sort of stuff, and we want you to be slow to taking it on. It's not something that you should just jump into and be like, I'm gonna fuck a sex machine. It's like, okay, is it in a place where I'm gonna be safe and on the ground and all the things? Like, you have to you have to be smart when it comes to sex, um, because there's so much misinformation and there's so little information out there that you don't just go jumping into stuff. Like, you've gotta do your research and make sure that you have all the information to make a well-informed choice.

SPEAKER_03: 41:59

The violet wand feels like static electricity to me, which I don't love, right? Like when it happens to me randomly in the wild, ah, I hate it. I try to do whatever I can to avoid it. But once you get used to the violet wand, you start to kind of like clean that feeling.

SPEAKER_02: 42:18

It's weird. Yeah, I mean, it's it's very similar to like, you know, paddles and whips, and you know, like as you start to get comfortable with it, it's like, oh, it's not so so bad anymore or you know, scary. It's more like this is kind of tantalizing.

SPEAKER_03: 42:38

And also, I don't want it every day. So, you know, I know you probably had this experience with your partners, but some nights you love your hair pulled, other nights you don't, and other nights you're like, don't get pulled my hair, you know. And they're like thousand percent. Last night you liked it. I know, I don't know why I like it tonight or not. Last night, I don't know. I just don't do it tonight, you know. So I have to be in the room for all those things.

SPEAKER_01: 43:00

Yeah, yes, right. And I mean, I mean that actually what that reminded me of is like the fact that you don't always want your partner, and some people don't have a partner, so that kind of one of the other machines that I think a lot of us know about, but don't get talked about a lot.

SPEAKER_00: 43:30

Sex dolls.

SPEAKER_02: 43:32

Oh, let me can I can I tell a story? Please, please tell me. Yes, real sex on HBO was a big thing in the 90s. Big, big thing. They talked to a guy who was like the first one who made realistic sex dolls, and they brought a guy sex doll out, and like it took like four people, and they laid it on the bed, and it was like a party of girls, and they were all like giggling and playing and like taking turns fucking this doll.

SPEAKER_03: 44:07

I remember it so clearly.

SPEAKER_02: 44:08

As right, like as a I don't, I think I was probably like 18 or 19, maybe a little bit younger. I don't know. I was like, holy fuck, this is the best thing ever made. How do I buy one? Oh my god, like that was my introduction to sex dolls, and I was just like, I want to be at the girl party fucking the sex doll that doesn't talk or do anything, and I can just do whatever I want to it. So I can see where this has extrapolated with the male psyche doing this for feet. Like if I'm that crazy turned on as like a 17-year-old, I can only imagine what some guy held up in his mom's basement is like dying to do to a silicone doll. Imagine if you had a hundred thousand dollars back then, Murph. Jesus, I I would have had yeah, I would have had both of them, a guy and a girl doll, and I would have made them fuck like Barbies. You would never have to leave the house. It was fascinating though. I remember just being like floored as a as a young teenager, like watching this video, going, Holy shit, like it looked real. The you know, the guys talking about it, and they use like some kind of special silicone to like do the skin texture, and they would paint it, like they would individually like paint the colors on the it was crazy. And I just remember being like, as someone who like didn't really think like, oh, I'm I'm not probably gonna find my person, you know, that I want to be with for a while. This would be fun to just kind of practice on, and was just like I was into practice mode, so I was like, this is great. Like, I don't have to worry about STDs, I don't have to worry about you know, nothing, and all these girls are having a great time. What how do I raise you know five thousand dollars so that I can have a real sex doll?

SPEAKER_03: 46:02

You remember them them taking the penis off and putting other penises on it and stuff? It was oh absolutely like the big token thing.

SPEAKER_02: 46:09

They were just like yeah, you guys, you gotta if you if if you're younger and you did not experience that episode, you gotta go find it on YouTube or in old HBO stuff. Like it was startling how much I remember of that scene, like like to a T.

SPEAKER_01: 46:29

So with the sex dolls, Murphy talked about how they have hyper-realistic skin, how they can be customizable. These things they weigh between 60 and 120 pounds, so they're pretty light ultimately. Like still now, right? Still like hefty enough to like feel like a human body. So there's there's so much. I mean, like, I don't imagine, I don't even know where you would begin to store that. Like, how do you how do I maybe I just have too much empathy, but in my mind, if I had a sex doll, I would have a problem just shoving it in the closet when I'm done. But I also have a problem just having it sit out on the couch. You're like, what do you do? What do you do with that?

SPEAKER_02: 47:19

Do you have it scare the people that come to your house and just like, oh, who was that? Or do you shove it in a box and then think like this thing's gonna like fucking come alive and come after me because I've pissed it off? Like, I get you. I'm I'm in the same mind frame.

SPEAKER_01: 47:33

I'm terrified of dolls. I don't love the idea of my dolls coming to life. I have a problem with dolls. We are not friends, it's a whole inside my my bridal party. Like, we we stayed in this beach house for my my bachelorette party, and there was creepy dolls there. And I opened the door the morning after like the party, and one of them had placed one of the creepy Victorian dolls right in front of the door. So like dolls, dolls and I. So the thought of like having a sex doll, I can see how for other people it makes sense, but what about what about when they also have personalities?

SPEAKER_03: 48:28

Like, what about when these machines that's wild, it's very wild that people assign personalities to them, assign characteristics to them. But I just want to go backwards for a second. When I think of extra doll in the house, I think um putting it in the passenger seat so I can go through the the slow lane, HC D lane or whatever.

SPEAKER_01: 48:48

Yeah, yeah. So for your storage, you would just keep it in the passenger seat.

SPEAKER_03: 48:53

That seems good. Maybe some like um mothballs, so no not no moths eat my my doll.

SPEAKER_01: 49:00

I'd be more fine with it in the car than I would at all. Yeah, it's it people get really what you what was that?

SPEAKER_03: 49:06

You're that with the movie with uh Ryan Gosling. Yeah, that was interesting. Yeah, where he was like carrying the doll around town. Yeah, it's wild. I mean, I know it happens, I'm sure it happens. It's gonna get more and more now that AI is getting so robust, it's everywhere. Dogs, yeah, dolls are gonna have personalities and you're gonna have a relationship with, you know, people have relationships already with, you know, chats and grok and all those other AI machines, and gonna be more and more intense.

SPEAKER_01: 49:34

Well, I think it's already kind of getting there, and I know that that's I think we're we're getting a little bit full for our conversation today, but I think that there is so much more to that because there are people who already are having those relationships. There are people who already are wanting to marry their sex dolls, and they're they're not even just using them for sex, they're using them for companionship. They're using them for way more. Cuddling. Yeah. For cuddling. And as somebody who is a cuddle therapist, like that's very interesting to me. So there's there's so much more that's happening with the sentient aspect of it and the AI aspect and the personality side of these sex dolls.

SPEAKER_03: 50:25

I think one of the things I would tell people who are nervous about buying sex toys, I'd say, you know what? If your partner's anxious about your sex toy, you can let them know that if your sex toy doesn't get warm, like your body, like a human, the the sex to the sex toy can't hug you and the sex toy can't kiss you. So, you know, while I think your partner should look as the sex way is like an aide, it's like a it's like a team member. Um, you know, remember that sex ways are lovely, but they can't do all these other things that a human can't, but it seems like that's where we're going.

SPEAKER_01: 50:53

Well, and also it's artificial, right? So, like no matter what, no matter how much intelligence we want to put on the sentient aspect of these personalities, it's artificial. Whereas we have the human aspect, we have the real empathy, the real compassion, the real care, the real love that we experience, but people really do experience for them what is real. And I mean, that's that is a conversation that we're gonna have next time because there is so, so much to talk about when it comes to all of that, and it's it's deep, y'all. There's a lot, and I think like Murph is probably gonna have a fair amount to say as somebody who is a therapist and some interesting story.

SPEAKER_02: 51:44

Yeah, I mean, I think uh I'm seeing it in my practice already, and uh, you know, I think there's there's two sides, right? Like, there's definitely parts of this that are super, super scary. And I think we need to explore those things and recognize, you know, what needs to be changed and how we do that. But also it's kind of like when I mentioned that sex doll being a practice doll. Like for a lot of people who have had really fucked up generational trauma and haven't been in safe places with people, like you know, I've heard people say, like, oh, my picker's broken, like I pick the wrong person always. This kind of gives you that chance to lay out scenarios and how you would talk to somebody and and build that confidence by practice. And so I think there are some good things that could come from that. It'll be an interesting conversation for sure.

SPEAKER_01: 52:39

Yeah. And I think I like Crystal, I really like your point about reminding people how these are just toys, not toys, but companions to what we can do with each other as people.

SPEAKER_03: 52:53

It's like having another team member helping out, you know, it's it's like teamwork makes the dream work.

SPEAKER_02: 52:59

That's right. There's no eye a team. As as she lifts up the hand to the sex doll to slap it and give it a high five.

SPEAKER_03: 53:08

Good job, bro. We made a comment 30 seconds. New record.

SPEAKER_01: 53:18

The sex doll. There are there is an eye in Wemonizer and in We Vibe.

SPEAKER_03: 53:23

So we we need to reach out to the motor bunny people, but they reached out to us and then we we responded, and I never heard back from them. But they they're they make some of those really nice um fucking machines, don't they? Motor Bunny, yeah, they sure do.

SPEAKER_01: 53:38

Well, and they're competitors to City and I think, but they have a lower price point.

SPEAKER_04: 53:43

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 53:45

Very similar to Calgirl, but they they do have um a different price point, and they do have more um options in terms of attachments and things like that.

SPEAKER_01: 53:56

Don't they have like partner play options too? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 54:02

I gotcha. I didn't know that I'll have to check it out. But yeah, or inch back out to them. Say, hey, we never heard back from y'all.

SPEAKER_02: 54:07

Yeah. We uh I want to hear from anybody in that industry. Like hit us up for sure. We're happy to talk about that stuff and look at it and try it and talk about it. And I think, you know, as as things become more advanced and new people enter the chat, you know, I think there's lots of growth in this industry if we, you know, take a hold of it. Just going to that um uh expo, you know, where it was the trade show. Uh there were so many things there that I was like, holy shit, I haven't seen something like that before. I mean, yeah, I'm used to going in and seeing the same old, like you said, purple rabbit, blue rabbit, all the things, but seeing some of that other stuff, like they've got stuff that's coming on the market that's gonna be pretty wild. Thank goodness for creative horny people.

SPEAKER_01: 54:56

That resourcefulness, that human resourcefulness, wean what all the ways to get off. As many ways.

SPEAKER_03: 55:04

I wonder, can I put that in my butt? Only if it has a flight on the flared base, please. So many people put things in their butt, should not go there. Like toys for your butt. You can buy if you're nervous or embarrassed, you can buy them online. Only put things in your butt that are made for your butt, and there's hundreds of them.

SPEAKER_02: 55:26

Thousands and there ain't nothing nothing worse than hearing a nurse, you know, talk about or a doctor talk about stuff they pulled out of somebody's butt. It's wild, the shit that people think about.

SPEAKER_03: 55:38

Those nurses and doctors have those Facebook pages and they show what the x-rays. I'm like, crap.

SPEAKER_01: 55:44

Yep. I my one of my friends is a doctor, and he has talked about some of the most awful things, but also I was thinking like the paramedic guy who makes he makes tons of reels. And I've like, you see him with the Christmas tree, and then him just like shaking his head, like no. It's like no, don't do it. I know it's not a I know it's got a flared base, but don't do it. So, not not everything with a flared base should go up there.

SPEAKER_02: 56:09

He needs a picture of like a butt with like a big red, like no, like just no, no in the butthole.

SPEAKER_03: 56:19

Good advice. So can we continue this conversation? Now we're gonna talk some more about this kind of stuff in our next episode or one of our next episodes.

SPEAKER_05: 56:28

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 56:29

I think there's so much more to talk about, especially when it comes to really just where AI is taking us.

SPEAKER_03: 56:38

Yeah, that's a whole discussion for sure. So I'm excited. Well, maybe um Murph, do you want to remind everybody how to find us and where to find us? And that, of course, is so healthy. If you give us a review on Apple, we would love that so much. Please tell people. That's how people find out about us if you tell people about us on Apple.

SPEAKER_02: 56:54

Yep. Review us. That pushes us higher up to different types of genres for podcasts, helps people find us um just in general. But like, share, subscribe. We're at BigSexy Chat on all the socials. And if you have questions or comments, or you want to tell us a fun story about something that went up your butt or a sex toy device that you use that's AI related, message us at big sexy chatpod at gmail.com. I will have this down at some point. Big sexy chatpod at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_03: 57:33

Right, perfect. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02: 57:35

Awesome. Okay, well then I was see you later, all years.

SPEAKER_01: 57:39

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