.jpg)
A Hoe & A Housewife
A Hoe & A Housewife
Cheers To One Year and The Girls Coming Out of Hiding
HEY HEY! The gals are back in action and celebrating one year of the podcast. They pushed pause on their recording schedule due to some technical hiccups and found themselves in a whirlpool of revelations. From navigating Natalie's jobless phase to sharing unabashed accounts of their past jobs, this episode is a refreshing take on life's ups and downs.
Ever thought about living in a mansion with friends after retirement? Or wrestling with the onset of grey hairs? As they march towards our 30s and beyond, they embrace these realities with laughter, sharing stories of reality TV shows and contemplating, dare we say, a 'vagina lift' at 70.
Buckle up, hoes, for a rollercoaster ride of emotions and experiences that's guaranteed to make you laugh, ponder, and everything in between. Promise, this is not your typical podcast episode!
Fucking hyped. Is that copyright? Excuse us everyone if we could please have your attention for those of you who don't know us so literally no one. I'm Lex and I'm Natalie, and this is a ho and a housewife. Check, check, check, check, roll that shit rolling.
Speaker 2:Welcome back to another episode of a ho and a housewife. I don't even want to say another episode because we have been in the MIA.
Speaker 1:I don't even know the last time we reported Dada.
Speaker 2:We really I will say guys back like two months ago, we really tried, we recorded, I think, like three episodes and we kept having fucking technical issues like my mic I had gotten a new mic because all mine were in storage like a dumbass, I don't know why I did that and everything was coming out so staticky. It was bad and Lex and I would get so frustrated because even one of the episodes we got fucked up like we were pounding shot, we were going shot for shot and more and more was just coming out of our mouths. It would have been a fantastic episode but you literally could not hear anything because there was so much data.
Speaker 1:Not only that. I think we had one episode where we what did we go shot for shot. We probably have like seven shots. So we have one in the archives for you, but I honestly don't know if we should ever share that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it would make like good video content, like just to see us like how progressively we got drunk, like you know how it's. Like this isn't this is me on my first shot, those TikTok videos like I think that would be funny. But like the content, we were not there, like you could tell we were rusty and we would be like we would forget what the fuck we were saying and I was like, dude, this is worth shit right now, like we're fucking the worst.
Speaker 1:It was so bad, it's so bad, but we're here. We've taken a couple months off, sorry, we love you and it was just as much hard for you all not to listen as it was for us not to record, but we just had a lot of. It sounds like a broken record, but life has just been shooting it shit at us and we're just dodging and not knowing how to really be really work on our time.
Speaker 2:Our time management has not been the best, I'd say it hasn't been good, I think, like, quite literally, life did happen very fast, starting back in like March for me, like moving from Phoenix, quitting my job, which I don't even know if we've talked about that. I quit my job too as well, like a few months after Lex.
Speaker 1:I think we talked about it on our archived episode, so there really hasn't been a launch that we caught on. But Natalie is now jobless, so we are dedicating most of our time to trying to just get back in the shit and provide y'all with a bunch of good shit that we have at the top of our head that we can't get out.
Speaker 2:Not having a job has been the fucking wildest thing ever, because I went through a phase where I was like, oh, I would get up and open up my laptop, like I still had meetings. Like it was fucking weird. I didn't know how to function my Because I've set this a million times on this podcast I'm a routine girl. So like me, having my five am routine, working out before work and then going to work and then going to baseball games after, like that routine worked for me last year, but then this, like the first month, I would literally be like what the fuck am I doing? Like I should, I should be working, but I do. I really did.
Speaker 2:After being in the corporate world for the last like two and a half years. I truly did appreciate and I have appreciated this time off. It truly felt like a summer break for me and the plan is and was for me to take summer off and then I would like look for the same job doing social media management, marketing. But I want to do it like in beauty, fashion industry. I just think like working in the healthcare, like really took it out of me, like soul sucking, just to see both sides of it. Like I was working on the marketing side, promoting all these brands, and then I would like see the other side of it, and it was just really hard. So I'm just it's been refreshing. I feel very refreshed. I feel like I truly learned to appreciate slowing down versus just having to always be fucking.
Speaker 1:It's funny that you to feel. It's funny that you say that too, because, like, I've had this thought a couple of times where, when I first started my career job after I graduated, I was no longer waitress in, so I was doing the nine to five and I just remember hating it because I would open my door. And this is when we're working from home, right. So I would open my door. The sun's out, all my plants are out there and I'm like I want to go work on my garden or go to the beach. Like I don't want to work on a damn nine to five Like this is not what I want, yeah. So then I quit my job and then I'm working waitressing and I'm like I need a nine to five, like this is not stable, this is not fun, and I all I do, realizing it, all I have done for these, not every single day, but same trend.
Speaker 1:I worry when I have a job and it's like you should just enjoy it. Like, don't stress about it and enjoy the fact that you have a job, you have income. If you want to better yourself, work on it, but don't be so hard on yourself. So I'm just enjoying it right now, working really hard, and I am looking for another job, but just like you know what Like I am going to have, I am looking for another like nine to five or something more stable, and if I'm going to pick up a position like that, I'm no longer going to have the time to go to the beach and like do all the things I'm doing now. So really just trying to focus in on what I have.
Speaker 2:And like you'll also have to like request, you'll have to request like a to and like.
Speaker 1:It's funny that you said that, because we're talking about my birthday. My birthday is coming up in a couple months, so we're planning that trip.
Speaker 2:Wait, how does that? I was thinking about these because Lex and I, like, we made the decision we're doing her birthday in Scottsdale and I was like, and I was sitting here and I'm planning it, thinking things through my head. I'm like, wait, how the fuck has this year gone by that fast? Like, because I think the last episode we put out it was February around that time and literally it's your birthdays in September and, like it's already about to be August and a few short like days by the time this episode probably comes out, it'll be August.
Speaker 1:So we're not wrong. This year has flown by.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and her birthday is coming up and it's quite literally y'all.
Speaker 1:it's what's our last year of our 20s. We did not have to let everybody know that, but yes, yes it is. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:I'm really I'm excited.
Speaker 1:I am excited. I think I'm actually really excited for our 30s. I've never been scared of our 30s. Me and a girlfriend were talking the other day and this did not get out of my head. I've been thinking about this seriously for two days that I'm like going through an existential crisis because we're talking, we're like, okay, 30s, like I'm excited, she's excited, I'm glad we have the same mindset. And then we're like 40s. I was like I think 42, 45 is going to be kind of hard. And then she goes, what about 50s? And then I go, well, what about 60s? And then we look at each other and we're like and then we die so morbid.
Speaker 2:I got dark, real fucking fast.
Speaker 1:It's super weird.
Speaker 2:You're like I'm going to be in my 30s. You're like, fuck 40s or 40s right there, dude, like we're fucking 11 years away from 40.
Speaker 1:My parents are in their 60s. So, like I keep saying this, I've said this forever Me and the girls were living to where 80 we have to. That's what we're doing, but.
Speaker 2:I think the goal here is to buy. We saw this thing recently in article where seven girlfriends bought a house together and they retired and now they live together. I signed me up.
Speaker 1:Sign me up so you for men is shorter, so if we're going to golden girls it we might as well do it right with a mansion, is what when would you do it?
Speaker 2:Where would you do it If you had to?
Speaker 1:pick a good question. I don't know, because we're I'm going to have lived everywhere by the time I made it. So I'm going to say I don't know. I can't tell you because you know me. All I see is like Big house and like a big garden, but like a big backyard kitchen where we can just hang out and drink margaritas and like have fun with a pool. Are we kidding?
Speaker 2:I see, I see a similar life. I see us somewhere on the outsides of like Seattle, like with all those really gorgeous lakes are going up towards like Canada, like where we get all seasons I would say Miami, but like that's basically.
Speaker 1:I think we should turn the Hamptons into like Like Okay, wait, the Cape and Tucket one talk.
Speaker 2:Okay, I can get on, I can get on board with that, like the cute little cottage houses we made them like fit in with like the culture of everybody, but we'll just make them like goomba and stuff and we're like that.
Speaker 1:Oh, because we really won't give that shit at that If we don't. Yeah, I'm excited to see where my Now yeah, we're fucked. That actually makes me think about this comment.
Speaker 2:We were out of the house. We were out with like, oh my God, and this really because we're talking about age and how we're just getting older. I was, we're just only 29,.
Speaker 1:but you said 60, all that.
Speaker 2:And I. We were sitting there talking with our guy friend and I was like dude, I don't know how this got brought up, but we're talking about aging and your first gray hair and I was like I don't care, like when I get my first gray hair on my head, like I'll be fine because I can do it, I can do it, I can do it, I can do it, I can do it, I can do it. That's the thing. I think the thing is. I think that's the thing. Like I was looking at my hair on my head, like I'll be fine because I can just color it. I was like what do you do when you?
Speaker 1:get your first gray pew. Does that just mean like my pussy's getting old? Like what is the sign? What does that mean, I think?
Speaker 2:I think what that is is Meta pause is when we're going to be like no, if I see one scraggly fucking gray hair down there, I'm literally going to get like a vagina lift immediately. I would literally. I think I would literally have a mental fucking break. Like you know how some people lose it when they're like is this a fucking gray hair in my head? Like oh, my God, I'm getting so old. Whatever, like that'll be cool. The first time I get a gray hair. But the first time I get a gray hair and my fucking bush or something, cause Lord knows I don't know how long it'll be grooming down there Like I will do it until God willing. I'm like probably like 70, 80 years old and don't have the time and energy to just constantly keep it groomed Um, sorry man, if I'm still alive and like Rob's like long gone by that time when I made sounds so fucked, you're dealing with my fucking bush. Well, we're like writing Rob often in the 80s, like see ya, I'll be fucking rocking a bush in the fucking Hamptons, motherfucker.
Speaker 1:I'm so I'm like what?
Speaker 2:I'm sweating right now. I'm gonna be on the golden bachelor.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be on. I'm gonna be on the golden.
Speaker 2:Y'all want me on the bachelor, I'm gonna be on.
Speaker 1:I'll be on the golden bachelor.
Speaker 2:I really thought that was a joke. You know how they have those like commercials are like you, 70 and looking for love. That's a word. Sorry, I just hit the mic. I got so excited.
Speaker 1:That's a real thing, and it started with who was it? Matt James's mom that went on for, like, right, it's Matt James's mom, is that? Who the prop? Prop, yeah, they weren't kidding. I think it's a great idea, but I do listen to like I listen to some reality type podcast, um, and so, yeah, whatever, it's a former bat bachelor contestant. I don't fucking know.
Speaker 2:Nick vile. Yeah, there's me off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did. They recently talked about his names Gary, I think, or Jerry, one or the other, and they already have tea on him like not good tea, and so they're like Wait, so if there's not good tea on this guy and he's a bachelor, he can't even like think about how being 70 and then, just like people, start roasting the shit. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's crazy but no, that's fucking, that is fucking wild. I fucking love that. I Think that I would actually be intrigued to watch the Golden Bachelor only because I'm literally over bachelor nation, like haven't watched seasons. I'm so into love Island UK, guys like and too hot to handle, like I'm so obsessed with shows like that. But love Island UK don't even watch the US because they're just a bunch of fucking places like they don't handle shit and wait.
Speaker 1:Okay, I know we're just on reality, but guys, if you're watching too hot to handle, please jump in on this question. I'm about to ask Natalie have you finished? Have you watched the most three reason update? No, I.
Speaker 2:Have it okay, paul's, till next week. I'm wait. Till next week. I'm going to. I'm going to today.
Speaker 1:That's my, that's my job, okay we'll catch up on this next week or we'll cut that piece out.
Speaker 2:Whatever, but never mind yeah but Conversation of reality, cuz we can go into like a spy role. But I feel like every fucking person, especially every gal, like especially because when we were taking a break, that whole scandal thing happened, y'all, and I was even invested in Vanderpump. I had not watched a single fucking episode until all that shit came out, that like. And the reason I got into it is because call her daddy, alex Cooper did an interview, let me see what the fucking hate is about, and then after that I was the basic bitch shut down into the fucking dark hole of the whole scandal, all things so I definitely could go into. I love reality TV. That is probably one of my like. I'm guilty?
Speaker 2:I was it's reality TV.
Speaker 1:But you know, it's because, like serving or like working for the thing, I, when I worked for the health care company, I did like I. I feel like I used so much of my head that when I come home I don't want to pay attention or watch unless. I'm gonna like do that and like have a date with my girlfriend or whoever like. Okay, I'll watch a movie, but I just want to throw on trash TV and laugh at the idiotity. Is that even a word?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I don't know, idiot, idiot. Yeah, I Don't know where you're literally, but I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say that it is whatever, they're idiots. I'm gonna look it up right now. It he idiot See.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking of hypocrisy. No, it's, it's a word, it's the word, it's a word. You heard it here first so.
Speaker 2:It's, it's it he is. See, not idiotity, it's it, is he. Extremely the noun. It's a noun. The definition is extremely stupid behavior, very fitting for our literate.
Speaker 1:There we go. That and that's the perfect definition to what I was trying to get to you. So, like I, like trash TV.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would hilarious, but with that, I think it's really cool that we did hit a milestone of having a podcast for a year, even though we haven't recorded in the last few months.
Speaker 2:It's doesn't go without saying that we still put out 29 episodes before this and we literally did the damn thing and put out a whole yeah and we've made them milestones on that, on this podcast, with, like, the listens and the viewers and the downloads, and like I truly think that Now that I have, we both have truly said like we have the time and attention and dedication and the motivation Especially with me not working right now to give 110%. Like truly want to like start investing in, like podcast producers. I love the video content from our favorite podcast. So, like Lex and I truly like love this platform that we've built, love the community we built. So I think that that is really fucking cool and that doesn't go to without saying like thank you to all of you for constantly fucking supporting us and messaging us and just Just sharing your stories and life with us that make us feel a little bit closer to you, even though we may not know you in real life, or your Lex's friends or your my friends, or we just know you through the internet.
Speaker 1:Like it's been really, really cool to see us, the little has and truly thank you because she she's not wrong like it feels so good for both of us. We're always sharing any type of stories or interactions or messages we're getting, like we love to hear from you. It's super freaking, exciting, and not only that, but I don't know if you saw, we've had 7500 downloads yes, since the time we've, like first started our podcast.
Speaker 1:So thank you so much for engaging, interacting, downloading our episodes. We look at those maybe not not all the time, but I literally get so excited for those emails because I'm always looking at that's for every episode so thank you for engaging. I promise I'm always looking, so continue to do that. And thank you so much.
Speaker 2:Lex fills me in. So we're definitely looking to take the next steps to just constantly elevate the this podcast for all of the hose and the housewives out there. And I think the thing is is that Lex and I really debated like, okay, what are we doing here? Should we keep going with the podcast? But then we, when we would go out or we would be like out on our own, people are like wait, why haven't you guys put a fucking episode out? And it would come from like the baseball community, it would come from like Rob's friends listen to the podcast. And so I was like damn, like I think we actually have something good going and I think it's just that self-doubt.
Speaker 2:I think maybe I experience that Getting in my head about it. I'm like, is what we're putting out? Is it good enough? And I do that to myself, with my own shit, my own work, my own content, when I was working a corporate job. I do it, I just beat myself up and so I'm really being able to take an outside perspective or take like take a step back and look at the whole thing and see what everyone had to say when we took some time off. It was like, okay, let's fucking do it, let's get back into it. We were just. It was just overwhelming.
Speaker 2:We just dove head first, didn't?
Speaker 1:like we well.
Speaker 1:I think, that and then like again, like we are very truthful and we'll share our truths later in episodes when we really dive deep. But I think, like you know, with my move moving here, like I thought, okay, I'm just moving here, it's a new plot, like I've lived here before, I'll be fine. No, I changed my life. I'm waitressing, like dealing with shit on the outside. You're dealing with shit on the outside. You're still moving with baseball. You and Rob have things going on like I think, like we just needed a second to say like, okay, life is still gonna happen, but this is what we're focused on and we just we weren't ready to handle those emotions and the responsibility of our work at the same time.
Speaker 2:And I think we also said, like recently when we were getting drinks, like we both said like we needed to stop being so Afraid of what comes out of our mouths, because there's so many times we're like, obviously there's things that shouldn't be said, and we will always respect Other people's values and beliefs, but at there's sometimes relax and I will say things are like oh, we shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 1:And then we literally won't like we'll cut out a huge part of an episode and it's just that it's Not true to our own without and it's like we tell everyone, like stay true to who you are, be you know, like just don't be scared to be yourself and say what you want. And then here we are, also like adjusting who we are and the our values and beliefs, because what we yeah, we're scared and so like there is a fine line on the things we do say and what, what we shouldn't say. But we are going to work on being really true to who we are in our values and just not being scared to say anything and just owning it more so, just owning us and owning who we are, because we're fucking.
Speaker 2:I think that we're great, like humbly, respectfully. I think that we're really fucking cool girls and I think this podcast is really cool. So, again, thank you. But it with what you said, like literally when we started this podcast, you guys, lex was, we were living together, we, we had our house in Austin. Rob and I were like let's have fucking kids, like. Like Lex was like I don't even know, you were just, it was just in different phases of life, like and I fast forward, lex has been single for two years. Rob and I are hitting our five-year wedding anniversary this year and those are just huge fucking milestones that I wanted to congratulate us on too, because I mean, there's so many things that like sometimes on the podcast before, where there's when you get out of a relationship, it's really easy to find the next partner because of Desperation, of fear, being like lonely and whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2:And I've always told Lex like I applaud you For where you're at because it is, you could have just easily turned your head to the next person. That was like falling in love with you or trying to date you or whatever, and she's been so Like from. I remember when she first into her apartment she was like lonely, crying, and and I've gone through that phase where I was living by myself somewhere and was like bitch, I'm crying, I'm lonely, and she was like now you get what I've been going through and it's just now. She's like so comfortable and content and happy with her place, her life, herself doesn't fucking need anybody. My mom the other day was like why isn't Alexis dating? I was like she doesn't fucking need a man. Okay, dude, like, and if she does find a man, I'm gonna be sitting right there fucking interrogating his ass.
Speaker 1:Like she doesn't need anybody and you know talking about, like the timeline of being single, like, thankfully, I was talking to one of my guy friends the other day and he, he goes. You know, you understand it. He's like the pressure of society. I said, yes, you're talking to a person that understands it. Like, if you're single, then you understand that ever. You're always being asked like are you dating? What was your last relationship? Or, if you're in a relationship, one of you having kids, like you know, we've talked about this many times.
Speaker 1:But I think with and I've said this before like I've only had three Relationships and with every three relationship I took a four-year break, and not purposely, it was just like I do become very picky after being in a relationship that I went through.
Speaker 1:It's not so much about the partner I had at the time. It's more like I lost myself in those relationships by not like keeping true to my values and the things I want in my life and like my keeping my goals First, while also like pursuing someone. Like I've always just put everything about me on the back burner. That's just I really give everything to my partner and which is something I'm working on, which is why I don't want to get into another relationship. But I really want to have my mindset in the right place with myself, love that when I do get in another relationship I'm not having anxiety or like we've talked about this, like separation anxiety. When you date someone who's cheated on you or has not been a good partner, you're like, well, what are they doing? Like I'm not like that. I don't like having that mindset, that's not me. So really making sure when I get in a relationship it's a healthy balance and just like built on loyalty and friendship.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to touch on like two points that you brought up. You said like throwing, like literally giving yourself to every, like losing yourself to your partner, and I I think that many women and many partners both ways can say that that happens to them and I I applaud you for working on that outside by yourself before jumping into a relationship, because I've had to work on that through my marriage and through my relationship with Rob, like a hundred percent, devoting myself to him, that it grew as came. It grew resentment early on in our relationship and then early on in our marriage. And now we're at a healthy place where, like the whole fear of long distance or separation anxiety and Lex and I had a deep conversation about this yesterday Like I don't know why people fear the idea of like dating somebody outside of their circle or outside of their you know what they're used to or the city that they live in. You know what I mean, because I feel like majority of the time you're meeting people, especially if you go on vacation, you're meeting people from all over the world, all over the country, all over the United States, who used to say like that isn't your person, right? And they, what is the fear of long distance and Lex on like separation anxiety and I used to deal with that so much because I was so invested into Rob's Rob being there all the time that I didn't even know who I was when he wasn't there. And now I literally and trying to find that healthy balance of like I love being by myself too. But people sometimes look at our lives and they're like, well, natalie is it with him, are they even still together? Like that's weird that she's not with Rob and I go and support as much as I can until I get tapped out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have realized my like at this point in the season halfway through the year it doesn't make sense sometimes for me to be there all the time, like and him being me being here in Arizona and then him being an Indianapolis right now, like I knew that doing the up and down between the big leagues and AAA, like it was going to cause us to just have chaos. It happened last year. I left the end of the season feeling so mentally tapped out that it played a huge effect into our relationship. So I literally said, like I'm going to Arizona and I will come visit and he was like, yeah, whatever makes you happy. Like, as long as you're happy, I'm happy and I'm me being here.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm by myself, I'm alone. It's me and the dogs. I obviously have friends here, but, like, I'm not with my friends all the fucking time. They have their own lives going on. So I embrace being by myself and I think that people have this idea that you should be ready, like always with your fucking partner and I actually saw this thing the other day on the internet, where it's like and I think this comes from how we grow, how we're now being raised around social media and how we have our phones on us all the time that we should always be available to our partners and family members. And you should respond to my text message and you're you're, but you're looking at my Instagram store, but you're not texting me back and you're not you know, it's funny that you say that because we had a conversation yesterday and I kind of was trying to pick your brain.
Speaker 1:But we have a friend who recently got in a relationship and he was in a very serious relationship and we're talking yesterday and you had said like about him checking her location and how long have they been dating.
Speaker 2:Um, I'm not sure it had to have been like a year or something. That's a long time.
Speaker 1:But like checking locations and things like that. Like people are always on the fence of like, should you have your partner's location? Usually you get it when it's like okay, I'm going to drop you a pin of like where I'm going, and then you just never stop sharing it.
Speaker 1:It's like no you have it and it's like okay, now I got his shit, I'm not going to let go, but like, how do you? I guess my biggest thing there is like locations can be either really good or really bad if you know how to use them and if you're a person who is in despair and with separation and just like I mean these are totally two different scenarios, but just bringing up the location part is like if you find yourself constantly checking that thing without trusting your partner, you probably shouldn't either have the location on or be with that person, depending on why you don't trust them. But again with locations, again with messaging, again with separation anxiety, I think the biggest thing is why everybody is so scared of long distance is because it's like you just simply just don't trust your partner and you're worried they're going to do things that they shouldn't do. Do you like?
Speaker 2:keep them there. You need them there at all times so that you can somehow keep an eye on them. And I think that that's a little fucking weird, because I don't think that I will say that in the long distance isn't easy. It's not like there are times where I will cry because I'm like here by myself and I miss having Rob, but it's not like I need him here. It's just like I miss his presence and I miss having him in bed or him being here with the dogs and the things that he's missing out on, but it's not.
Speaker 1:What are the other way?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, really like a man's touch. I just want my man's touch, and I think that people fear that and they view it as like a little bit like an alien, like that's weird that you guys don't live your life, but one day, like I always say this, one day Rob's career is going to be over and I don't know, even know how we're going to function as a full time couple, because we have literally, since Rob and I started dating in 2015, we have only known long distance and, yes, I get to go live with him in season for a few months or I'll do a full season with him, but like he's on the road every five days, every six days, so really I'm not with him at all times, and so I think that people, like you said, they grow despair, like they're just like desperate and they get super wind up.
Speaker 2:They get super attached and tidy and it's fine. But it's like to Lex's point like if you're having to work on that shit in the relationship and you truly can't work on that shit in the relationship for yourself then your relationship is never going to be healthy. And so I applaud you for recognizing that you do do those things in relationships, like to completely devote yourself to your partner.
Speaker 2:And like losing yourself and losing your identity. And I actually have a few girlfriends that have said that like, like I need a girls trip because I don't know why I'm so invested in my partner, I love them so much and blah, blah, blah. But I think that people think they feel bad when they do things apart from their partner. But you really shouldn't like. If you have a healthy relationship, you really shouldn't feel bad for just taking a couple days off.
Speaker 1:We're human and we love to be with you know, whatever community is fitting for us. So, whether you want to be with your boys, whether you want to be with your girls, whether you want to just be with your whoever I was trying to be inclusive of all, but I don't know the best way to approach that but just your community, whatever community you want to be a part of, I think it's important to spend time with them, away from your partner and your partner doing the same thing at that time. You know, I'm very big. I almost want a long distance relationship at this point because I'm like I don't want you. I what I'm looking for is to take things very, very slow. I want to be able to understand that, like we don't have to move in together after a year. We shouldn't have to, like save money. We should both be financially stable and work on those goals to where, like I want a separate place for the first year we're dating.
Speaker 1:I don't want to move in after six months or a year Fuck, no. Like I want to make sure that you can be independent, while being also dependent on my emotions as well as me. Like, if I need time away, then you need time away as well. That's fine. That's just what I'm looking for. I don't want it to be like oh, you're going to be alone, why? Why do you need time by yourself and you can't hang out with me? Get the fuck out of here. Bye, like no, no, no, no, no, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think you should do along this relationship. I'll never forget when Rob and I were first date, the first two years of us dating, it was exciting, like hopping on planes going to go see one another. You know, making the time and make. I think that was the thing. It was like we were making the intense.
Speaker 1:Exactly, I think that's the I think that will be the hottest thing is like having intent and being intentional with each other and knowing like I'm going to make either trips to see or I'm going to be like I'm going to call you at the beginning of my day, whatever, just having an intentional moments with that person. But I think my also favorite thing, the hottest thing, would be like to know that you can like live your own life and I can live my own life without having like being worried that it's impacting one another, like I actually follow this influencer and she actually talked about this on our TikTok like months ago, because people were like judging her because her and her partner are married.
Speaker 2:Her husband are married, yeah, husband. Yes, her and her partner are married and I can't think of her name, but like she'll go live in New York for a little bit by herself, like a couple months, but while he holds down the fort at home and she's like she's like I don't know what the fuck you're judging me about. Like we're in a happy marriage. I think I get to do what makes me happy and he doesn't want to be in New York all the time, but my work does call me here sometimes. Like I have to be here.
Speaker 1:I love that too, because a lot of people you know they're like they have these goals and they're like I don't want to live here, I don't want to live in Corpus, I want to live in Texas, I want to travel the world or whatever. And then they meet someone and they're like nothing, I'm just going to do this. And it's like why can't you meet someone and you and your partner both still meet all the goals you want in life and help each other pursue those, rather than like okay, this is our life now and this is what you can do, both Like it doesn't have to be one or the other and I think you know we've talked about this a lot too.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of relationships are based on ego and more like possession of yes and not so much like actual friendship and loyalty and having an understanding of each other. One of our girlfriends the other day, alexis we're at the pool and she goes. I don't see why I just haven't started to date. Y'all like why am I going to date a guy when my girlfriend literally love me better than anybody else? And I'm like I get it, I fucking get it, like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah you know, rob and I are kind of in that phase right now where we don't have a home to go to, like we obviously have our house here in Scottsville, but that this is our like Airbnb, so like we have to move out of here when it busy months start. I'm here now but I was like we don't have a mortgage, we don't know. We're like trying to decide if we're gonna like buy a fucking house in Texas or buy another house here in Phoenix, and he knows that like it's always been a just a goal to just go live a couple months in New York. And I made a comment the other day where it did come off so ugly. I was like, oh my God, I'm such a bitch. I told Lex about this but I was just like, well, he was like I, he's like I'm tired of living out of a suitcase. I said, well, I live out of a fucking suitcase, like fucking eight months a year. Bitch, like sorry, not bitch, that's just how we, us girls, talk but I live eight months. I live out of a suitcase eight months out of the year. What do you mean? Like I do it all the time for you.
Speaker 2:So I think that if I want to go to New York for a couple months, that you shouldn't hesitate and give me like grief about it. And he was like I'm not. He was like I want to experience that with you. I just like we don't have any word, we don't have a home base, we don't have anywhere to put our stuff or the dogs or whatever. And I said, well, you can go, stay at the house in Phoenix, hold down the fort with the dogs, like I do, like I am right now, and then I'll go to New York and you can come visit. And he was like what the fuck? He was like, yeah, you know what, I'll see you at the end of off season.
Speaker 2:Like got so offended, got off the phone and then I like really thought about it. I was like, okay, that did not come off the nicest way and I just I'm more so meant that like he knows that I want this, I've wanted this experience. This is where the selfishness, the ego, comes in. And I meant to say more like that, that couple that I talked about, like what is like what? If I just go, maybe for a couple of weeks, you meet me out there the last week and then we do that last week together Like I wasn't I wasn't including very inclusive in the idea of us going to New York and it just came off like I'll fucking see you at the end of off season. And so I called him back at like I think I talked to him like that night after the game. I was like that's not how I intended it at all, but I can totally see how that came off. And Lex.
Speaker 1:Lex is just laughing when I told her the story and that is always like traveling with the dogs, so I just saw the tables turn and I laughed so hard because I was like, damn Rob, go take care of those dogs. Boy, like that's on the road, I like gotta go buy.
Speaker 2:I was like how are the tables? That's literally what I said. I said wait a minute.
Speaker 1:I do this all fucking time Like this is my ninth season came off that way Is you reacted with it? You literally just reacted with like you didn't think about how to react, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was like, well, the poker, yeah. So we're currently like. I was like damn, I really don't know what we're going to do this off season. But it's actually really not. I'm not terrified about it. I'm one of those people that like needs to have a plan, and this is the first off season. We don't know where we're going to be living, and it's really exciting. We don't have any big bills, we don't have fucking mortgage or just like dude, we can literally like go stay somewhere here for a few, yeah.
Speaker 1:And so I'm really and I think it's like also, you know a lot of kudos, a lot of you had started this episode. I'm going to take it two different ways real quick. But Natalie's in Arizona, so give yourself a lot more credit because, one, you're in the house that when we first started recording, you said PTSD right, you're making a whole new experience with something that was so dark and you're bringing light into it. So kudos to you on that. But also, like, where you and Rob are with again, like not having the despair and the anxiety, like the growth in the relationship to be able to understand each other's values and still work towards bettering yourself, is amazing. So and you know that's not to go with to say like the reason a lot of people don't let their partner travel is because they are cheaters, like we get that like elephant in the room. Yes, bachelor parties, we've seen it all. We've seen very bad things, we've seen it all. So I get it. But if you have that problem with your partner, there's a bigger problem in the room.
Speaker 2:So absolutely, I definitely applaud myself for being back here, because I think we talked about that on the episode when it was like mental health month. Like this is the house that I experienced the most darkness, the probably the darkest part of my life, and every room has a story of some really bad mental health like moment where I was just not like on edge at all times or severely depressed or crying or throwing shit and or, you know, self harming, and being here is a huge yeah, like Lex said, like huge step. And when I was actually driving here, I was like, oh my God, I'm going to be the living in that house by myself and I had anxiety at first about it. And then I got here and I was like, oh my God, I'm so happy to be here. Like this is home, like it felt like a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 2:And so I, I, when Lex Lex texts me the nicest text message, she was like I'm so proud of you, like I, you need to like take a step back and really just relish in the fact that, like you're doing something so big and like going back to that house is just huge, and so I. It has been a year of growth all around and I always I pray and hope that for everybody, everyone in life, like I pray and hope that, even if you think you're not growing in big ways, that you notice even the little things and this is a little, and it's always small ends that add up to the big wins.
Speaker 2:And then you look at you, look at yourself a year later. You're like, holy fuck, I am not that person, like I. I don't know if y'all do this, I will go through old pictures from like a year ago, two years ago, and I look at myself and I remember the place I was in and the way I was thinking and feeling, where my marriage was at, where my friendships were at, and I do this almost like every other night. It feels like I'll go through and find some new pictures. I actually sent a video to Lex yesterday on my bachelorette party and us dancing in the fucking Airbnb and I was like dude, we were literal babies, like we were 24. I know, and the video we literally looked like infants. It was fucking wild, but it's just like it's crazy how fucking time like what we're aging.
Speaker 1:That was so like. I was looking at the video and I was just small, like I just looked small. My body, my, like I just looked younger.
Speaker 2:I wasn't a woman, I was a literal.
Speaker 1:I was talking to my.
Speaker 2:I was talking to my friend Riley the other day and she was like I'm like I don't know what the fuck everyone's making like a fuss about. Like getting older. She's like I feel like I'm getting hotter, like I was like dude me fucking too respectfully, I am aging like fucking fine wine over here. You know, bob, botox does play a huge role into the way my fucking skin looks, but also genetics and blessed Thank God. But I literally told her I was like dude fucking insane. I'm like the way my body has changed. Like when Rob and I first started dating you guys I was the like flat as they come, like I looked like a motherfucking paper no ass, no tits, like no curves and him and I laugh all the time. So I'm like thank gosh you stayed around for like the glow up because I like I figured out what working out is. I know what a squat is now.
Speaker 1:No, what a good lunch is. That's crazy that you say that because you really didn't have tits back when. And I'm now thinking about, I'm like damn you really, you really didn't have tits, I don't even know when you got boobs.
Speaker 2:I had no boobs, no ass. I got boobs when I got fat our sophomore year and we were drinking fucking beer every other day, like that's when I got in eating so tacos after the bar versus in pizza rolls.
Speaker 2:So like that's when I and they were like baby boobs they weren't like really much, but I like wore a good pushup bra Like it was good and then I didn't really get an ass until really the last year. Thank shout out Sammy, my trainer, love him so much. But it's just, it's fucking funny, like I think, like people always say, like yeah, a woman's body changes, like it only goes outward cause our hips get bigger, I maybe, like I'm thankful that I didn't, like I didn't develop in high school because now, like as a woman in her late twenties, like I truly have come into my own physically, mentally, emotionally and it's only getting better. So like I don't, people will stop fearing your fucking, your older years. I swear it gets better. Like you get so comfortable with yourself. We actually offer this to like your sexual experiences.
Speaker 1:Like everything just gets so much funner, fudge up. So I said, fudge, okay, hold up. So we were supposed to shoot the shit and we just started shooting the shit with so much other shit we had to shoot. But y'all speaking of self pleasure, I met a man two nights ago. I haven't gave him a name, but I met a man. My friend, christina, decided to gift me with the rose and yes, we've talked about this and yes, our friend had one and we're like you know, she like literally loves it. You read the reviews, not read the reviews. They were crazy. Like y'all have one. That shit was insane. Like I literally you know when you go and you like whatever I started, I turned it off and put it to the side and was like, oh, I'm not ready for that. Like, hold on.
Speaker 2:Like I need this is really because I remember when we talked about this early on of the podcast, like, so it's like, not like, not a, not a rose, like I'm not every stimulator I've ever used I orgasm.
Speaker 1:So I'm like everything works either way, like nothing's different, like what a bitch that you can set some crazy combos.
Speaker 2:I was literally in combination in rhythm, like it's like the episode of friends where she's like the guys, like how do you make a girl come and they draw, like they put like the points, like the points on a woman's body that you can like touch or do things to, and choose one, one, one, three, four, one, five, seven, seven, seven, seven. No, you with the rose, you're like punching it.
Speaker 1:I literally was just playing with it. I was like, whoa, that's it. I can't even tell you which combo I had. But, ladies, if you were like me and you have a toy and you're like, okay, like I'm fine. Or if you're in a relationship and y'all both don't know which one, to get her, get the freaking rose, get the rose.
Speaker 2:Get the real rose, get the real rose. I've said it, I've said it time and time and again. I I've always said I'm talking about this before I, when my first started like doing self pleasure, when I like figured out how to use things and try different toys, I was never a girl who like just like the dildo, like I am a clit stimulator. So the rose when I literally, I literally was like. I can't even talk about it. It was like a breath of air.
Speaker 1:You know when you have good, well, you have Rob, but, like for anybody that's had a really good hookup, I'm sure you fill this with Rob and you think about them. When it's like that good, you're like you get a little stomach tingle and you're like, oh yeah. Yeah, I'm not working at today serving food and I'm like like I can't wait to go home.
Speaker 2:I haven't been thinking about a fucking man. I'm thinking about him, I know. And that's cause like you got to name it.
Speaker 1:No, I won't give him a name.
Speaker 2:I like how you say him, though it was a her and I started thinking about him like wait, what is this?
Speaker 1:What are we doing here?
Speaker 2:But either way.
Speaker 2:I think I actually saw, um, because this whole Kylie Jenner thing has been going viral, or like everyone thought she was sleeping with her best friend Stoss, because they make out every time they're drunk, and she was like on the show. She was like I don't know why people think we're fucking like I just we just get drunk and like to make out sometimes. She was like best friends do that, like girls do that. And then somebody like quote, tweeted it and they were like we should really do some research into why they go with women when they're drunk. She's like because when I'm drunk cause she's it was a she's into women. She was like when I'm drunk, I don't think about making out with a man, but I'm like what is it the same thing? Because it's just intriguing. Like I watch, like I said a million times, I watch like three Sims with like two girls, one guy, or like I'm straight lesbian porn and it's not that like. I'm like I want to sleep with a woman.
Speaker 1:I think we're also all very sexual women. Like us in in reference, like because immediately I'm going to one of my other girlfriends. Every time we're drunk around each other, we kiss and like that's just me and her and that's the only friend that me and her do that to. Or with whatever Um and whatever the together simultaneously, um. So like I wonder. But that's not that's a great question. I think it's more just cause we're all three sexual people and it's like oh, why not? Okay?
Speaker 2:But if I think about it, I don't ever do it with like random girls. Like I actually used to have a friend where we would get drunk, like we would always kiss and I didn't, but I would only do it with her cause I was like comfortable with her to do it. It wasn't like I was like wanting to do it with other girls. That makes sense.
Speaker 1:I don't know, that's a great thing, cause I do know a girl that gets drunk and loves to make out with anybody, like, like, girl wise. So like I think there is probably some research to it and the thing I've said before, I'm pretty sure this can either go canceled or however, but I'm pretty sure a lot of us, majority of humans, are very interested or like curious. We just don't know or have been like in a position with a person we were potentially like stimulated by, whether like mentally, physically, whatever. But I do think I remember we're having a conversation with one of our girlfriends and she was like I don't think my ex boyfriend was, like I think All our ex boyfriends were put in a position. They may do it Like you never know, because we're not, we only know people. So much, right, but if you just never know and a lot of people don't want to admit, you know, I'm fucking curious.
Speaker 2:I'm curious, george, like I like it's literally like, and just like that where all of a sudden Miranda was like really intrigued by Che and she literally said that in the last episode. But she was like I was only.
Speaker 1:She was like I don't know if I'm lesbian, she was like it was just Che that I was like really intrigued by, and I think like there's a lot of fear too, like there's a lot of fear for men, like if you were even interested or thought to do anything like that with another man. Oh my gosh. So homophobics come out. Like there's just so much to it. But I think, truly, a lot of people might be more curious. You just don't know.
Speaker 2:They don't need to shut up and get their dick sucked already Shut. They don't need to shut up.
Speaker 1:All curious. I do have like gay friends which are male that have. They're like oh y'all I get. I suck dick all the time and I'm like I bet because guys, just they get drunk and they're like, why not? But they just won't let anybody know which is.
Speaker 2:I'll never forget when we were at that. We were at a bar in Boston and I was trying to use the restroom but the door wasn't locked. I walked in on two guys Like one was giving him head, which was fine, I would just close the door, but it was after the fact. You could tell that neither of them wanted to know that it happened, because they walked like walked to the opposite sides of the bar and like acted like they did not know each other.
Speaker 1:after that, See so it just happens and like that's fine, and if you don't want anybody, just know we. We are the type of people that I don't judge. I know other people do. But like dude, if you're curious, out there, go freaking, have fun, Don't let anybody know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one life with the fuck. Don't regret, don't, don't live your life. We're getting that second someday, or get your dick sucked, literally. Speaking of reality stars, because we're just talking about Kylie Jenner, I just quickly want to touch on this whole thing, cause this is I.
Speaker 1:I get invested in the talk on this because we're about to have a whole other hour. Let's go. I already know what you're going to say. I'm ready, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like I think that's like Chuggy, but like I fucking love Twitter so much because people serve the funniest shit on there. But okay, so we all know Ariana Grande is getting a divorce.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, Whatever the girl I literally said I told mom it's like good for her. She's fucking rich as fuck. She could be with whoever she wants. Okay, so the other thing that I knew it was her fucking co-star for the fucking New York wicked. I did not know that he was also married and like hung out with them was friends with the wife. And somebody quote like the wife literally came out with a comment. She was like, honestly, Ariana just doesn't care, Like who she like ruins, like well, who's live she ruins and her destruct. Whatever she was like, she's just like not a girl's girl. And somebody quoted it and she was like, honestly, she was like the most disrespectful thing I could ever be told is that I'm not a girl's girl. And I thought that's my core, because if one of my friends told me that I wasn't a girl's girl, I would literally be like the disrespect bitch. I'm a, I'm down for my girls, Like, but like. So I also got into a conversation. Here we go.
Speaker 1:Dude, I don't want to talk about it because I had a dream last night that has like shifted my perspective too and on to how I was watching too hot to handle. So maybe this is like a research type thing. Let's come together as men and women and let's have a real conversation, because I need some help. Let's get into this. But I want to talk about how we recently just talked about how, yes, we've seen experiences where men on bachelor parties or married men have approached me and they don't tell me till after we like start talking or we kiss or something, and they're like oh, by the way, I'm married. Or a month later, hey, I was in a relationship.
Speaker 2:Or like there's so many different fucking scenarios I've been through I can't even like, whatever I tap, it's really has like I think, like what Lex and I have said, like the universe keeps shitting on her and like somehow, guys that are taken like keep approaching her when she's like what?
Speaker 1:lesson am I learning here, right? Well, I think this is probably the thing. So I recently met a man, a couple of weeks ago, and we were having we're really getting to know each other, having a good time, we make out, whatever that's it and I come to find out he tells me after that he's married. So I'm telling my girlfriends and she does some research, and sure enough, we find this guy. We find him and he's I don't even want to say he's literally having a baby.
Speaker 1:He's having a baby with his partner and we found his baby registry. We found all these different things and like this, it's so disgusting because one I haven't had a baby or been married, but I've been in a position where you fully dedicate yourself to someone and to find out, like not dedicated to vote, to find out that they literally don't give a fuck, or maybe they do and they're just whatever. There's so many reasons to cheating because maybe they do care. They do care.
Speaker 2:I saw a little sympathy, but what I was going to say to that, before you continue, if you don't mind, is that I don't think it's so much that he was married. Yes, that is married Like that, sorry. Yes, that is disgusting that he's like married and he did that. But the disgusting part for me after the for me was is that he literally is like having a baby with this woman that he's been married to and that to me, is like you're bringing a whole nother human being Like do you actually even care?
Speaker 1:about this woman and this child. The human being was born March.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, do you even care? Like, really Like, and how much do you really really care? So like, that to me was the disgusting part, because, like he's married, that's disgusting. Like he could end the relationship and realize that like, okay, really I'm not happy, but like now you have a child that you're going to affect in this whole situation now and like that's it's not even any of that Cause if he went home and talked to her like that's their own relationship.
Speaker 1:I think it's more just like I've seen it and seen it, and seen it, and seen it and seen it. So now it's just a trend. It's more like that's it. Everybody has their own reasons as to whether you're a serial cheater or you cheated because you just had a baby and life's fucking hard, who knows. Like there's so many different reasons.
Speaker 2:but to go to say yeah, Lex, and I actually had our conversation to you as well. Like I think, I personally think that there's two different types of cheaters, cause I've seen it where there's like cheaters that do it all the time and they just don't give a fuck. Like they're like I'm with, like they've done it time and time and time and time again and they just don't care that they're doing this to their partner. And then I've seen people like like, like Lesh Lex just said, they're going through the hard time and it was a vulnerable moment and a situation happened and they cheated, they regretted it, they told their partner and you know it's literally like that scene in fucking sex in the city where, like Miranda's husband is like I slept with somebody else and he's like sick to his stomach and he's just like you know what I mean and you and I both felt for him in that moment.
Speaker 2:We're like oh, steve, like fuck, like take him back. Miranda and even all her friends were like take him back, like what are you doing? And so I think that there's two different types. I think that they're people that are selfish and they're ego and they don't care who they fucking hurt and they're destructive. And I think that there's people like Steve from sex in the city. They do it because they're not. You know, their marriage is in a really bad place. They're in a bad place. They're in a bad place. They're in a bad place. Yeah, and I think that this guy was not a bad. I don't know.
Speaker 1:This to me was a little, I don't know, but I'm just, but my thing is well, I'm just like playing fair line right, Like I really don't know, but my thing here is is, the reason we're talking about this is because I was telling one of my girlfriends about it and she looked at me and she's like, well, you're gonna tell her right, and I'm like the fuck, no, because, only because, if it was a one time thing. I think that's why this is where my mindset is. Let me just like defend myself before y'all come for my throat. My thing is is like I've been in the situation multiple times without knowing, like I would have never pursued a man knowing he was in a relationship. As soon as I found out you didn't know it Literally left, yeah.
Speaker 1:But my thing is is that I've seen this so many times and women like we also have to remember that like we all don't think alike. And so if I message this woman this story, she's either gonna shit on me because I'm wrong and she's gonna believe her husband, or she's either going to maybe call me for the next five days trying to get the same story, to try to make me validate that he cheated, and like there's just there's so many different scenarios to it that I just don't think it's my responsibility to do God's work. I think a woman knows if their man's cheating and I truly, truly do and I think we all just deny it majority of the time.
Speaker 2:I agree with you on that statement as well. I think that it's just what you choose to look at. You know what I mean and what you choose to ignore. But I would like to have a conversation about this as well and about telling the woman or not. And I agree, I think that there's women out there that will listen and they leave the relationship and they're like thank you so much. And then there's women out there that are like fuck you, you're a fucking bitch, you're a whore, you were law, without truly knowing that like the person did not know that this other person was married.
Speaker 2:And so Lex and I were laughing about this yesterday. I said, well, look, I was like I think I agree with you because I don't think I would tell the woman. But if it was my bitches, I am a like I will see something and I will say something to my girls, because I'm like it's my girls, like I know them, I know their partner. That's a no for me, dude, that's a no for me, dog. I'm going to say something. So like, that to me is different.
Speaker 1:And even friends of friends, like for I just think, like with so much traveling we've done, and these like one-off experiences are why I don't do it.
Speaker 1:But if it's like a friend of a friend or someone I know in Corpus, like yeah, I'm probably going to tell you, but like these are all literally just vacation like experiences where I just meet these random people and yeah, they're married, but so I think my biggest fear was I felt that I was not a girl's girl in that moment and I still feel like because now I'm questioning like man, maybe I should tell her, because maybe he should be in trouble, like I would love to see the look on his face when he found out that she knows so.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 1:But at this point I'm having a show called Cheaters. If I'm just going to call every woman that the man approaches me literally, and that's I don't think I want to put my.
Speaker 2:I don't want to do that. Who wants that? Who wants that burden on their shoulders? Who wants that fucking drama in their life? No thanks, Like realistically, like yeah, you are an empath, but realistically, like that's a lot, Because there's a lot, that's a lot. There's a lot of that that goes on in the world and I just think that it's not your burden to bear.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's because it's not like you went into the situation knowing that this man was married. You know what I mean? And I think that that's where a lot of people fuck up. Is that they? That's why I said I said, that's why I said like. So I was like, had you known this guy was married and there was a fling happening, a full on affair forever.
Speaker 2:Stay on your limit, if you probably be like gotta, gotta say something, so we're just, we're just fucking talk about it. She was like dude, did you see the whole fucking aerial on a grande thing? Like what? If she's not a girl's girl, dude, how are you going to hang out with a wife, you fucking her man and then be like, sorry, I'm getting a divorce, you're getting a divorce.
Speaker 1:We're going to move on with our happy lives, but yeah, but did you see that this isn't the first time that like this was a situation like Mac was reportedly in a relationship and cheated on his girlfriend with Ariana, and then was it Dalton, her ex husband, she, I don't know. There's like it's not just one relationship.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Pete Davidson was in a relationship.
Speaker 2:Do you do you think that, when you're that rich and you're that fucking powerful that you can literally do whatever and like get and almost get away with it? Because like, literally, I was listening to call her daddy with Harry Jousey and he was like he was like one time I had a famous woman. He was like I'm not, he's, like, I can't say who, but like she literally was, like she had her people reach out to his people and they met at a hotel room and they fucked and she was like this is nothing more than sex and till this day, like nobody knows who Harry's talking about. I love that. So it's like you're that fucking rich. I love it too.
Speaker 1:Like a whole fucking, like I love it. So, too, I think you can get away with anything. But I think, like if you're a bad person, you're a bad person and shit's going to catch up with you. And I say that for Ariana in a sense of like all your girlfriends, or like if you get in a relationship never going to trust you, no, not even trust you.
Speaker 1:If one of your best friends fucks your dude, that's on you, like that's happening to you because you've done that multiple times. So I think like that type of thing. But dude, being that rich and having freaking secret hookups here, sign my.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that's it. I signed my. Nda goal yeah literally Nobody can know about this. Now, fucking eat me out.
Speaker 1:It's like why that's wild.
Speaker 2:That really would be so hot, literally like the sex life. Where she's like now. What she's like now, fuck me when the elevator opens. Oh wow, like great.
Speaker 1:Well, so I guess my question to you all let me know your thoughts on the conversation we just had, because I know there's going to be a lot of mixed emotions coming from both ends there is.
Speaker 2:I'm married so like I could seriously sit here and be like fuck you, like I don't, and I think that just comes with life. And I think that just comes with life experiences. And I think if you're fucking coming from a judgy place, then you're listening in the wrong fucking time.
Speaker 1:I've been cheated on in the past three relationships.
Speaker 2:Did I know?
Speaker 1:past two relationships, did I know? Yes, and it wasn't even till like the last one. One of my girlfriends told me because her hairdresser knew and I didn't. So, like, people know, like, and I knew the whole time, other people knew, we all just knew and we all ignored it. So I mean, realistically, like again, maybe these women know, unless these guys are really good, but you do, they're not. So I think we all just really choose to ignore it, and I don't think it's my position, but let me know your thoughts, because I feel like you all are going to anyway.
Speaker 2:I wonder what. I wonder, like, my wrap up thought here is like the, you know, when you're like 80, 90, on your deathbed, you know what I mean. There's people out there that you like, like they've been married to their whole life, like if you were interested in the opposite sex or you did happen to fall in love with somebody else like, do they on their deathbed? Are they like regretting? Because I think that I think that, like, why live your life regretting and being so judgy and mean when you truly don't know what somebody else is going through and battling with behind closed doors? So I don't know. Like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Like maybe, like you said, shame on me for judging that guy very briefly, I don't know his story, I don't know what's going on behind closed doors and who am I to judge. But you know what I mean. So, like maybe, but I think that this is where the ego and the selfishness comes in. If you're not truly happy and that relationship is not being worked on and nurtured and cared for and it's not going in the direction you want to, then don't hurt the kid and don't hurt the person that you know brought that kid into the world. Move on with your life and like, have a healthy co-parenting relationship with that person, but that's, that's the only thing I will say on that. But like, I don't think that he's a bad person. I just think that either he's a serial cheater and that makes him a bad person, like he does this all the time, or it really was like a one off situation and he was like fuck, what did I just do?
Speaker 2:Honestly I and then told his wife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you never know and I don't my doubt he told his wife, but you really never know people. And I think also, like the only reason I say like he's the only one I hadn't judged is because the one I met a guy in Miami, I called him over and he showed me his ring from afar and I was like, oh my God, turned around, like okay, you're out of sight, out of mind.
Speaker 1:But yeah he comes and approaches me later and tries kissing me after all his friends leave. That could be a serial cheater. But that's fucked up, hold me, we're kissing. And then after he's like I'm married, okay, and the look on his face looked a little like you good luck crying when I leave, bye, yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you remember those guys that we met in NOLA that were like we like waved them over because you thought one of them was attractive? And he still came over and was like, so respectful. He was like, honestly, like I just got engaged, I'm really happy. And the guy that was getting married, the bachelor, he was like, he was like I'm happy, like, and we just talked about it the rest of the night, like they were yeah, and we have them on Instagram Respect. Respect the shit out of that and they like.
Speaker 1:We have them on Instagram, but it was more just like we made actual friends in that moment, or like acquaintances. I'd say so yeah, could really go either way, you never know. But I think it's more just like I don't fucking know.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:My final thought on that but not being a girls girl is one of my favorite things, because I will do anything for my bitch.
Speaker 2:Be a girls, girl, yeah.
Speaker 1:Be a girls, girl Literally.
Speaker 2:With that, thanks for listening to another episode of One-Housewife. I'm so glad we're back into it, like some, so glad we're back into it. All you lovely people tune in for more episodes. We're going to be cranking them out again. You can follow us on Instagram and on TikTok at a home housewife podcast. We're going to be working on content and doing all the fun things. So cheers to one year, cheers to being back, and we'll see you soon.
Speaker 1:Bye guys, thank you.