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Get Real With The English Sisters - Mind, Health, Anxiety Relief
Your Mood is Contagious and You Don't Even Know It
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We explore how emotions spread, why your inner state echoes through others, and simple ways to shift the energy in a room without denying real feelings. Stories, science, and small body-led tools help you take agency and lead with calm confidence.
• reading our “Reflections” piece on mood contagion
• how face, tone and breath broadcast signals
• mirror neurons and micro expressions explained
• horses, nervous systems and why calm is catching
• eye-gaze tips to interrupt tears and reset state
• pattern interrupts to lift heavy rooms
• stepping away to defuse tension
• relationship loops, secondary gains and new choices
• family stories on boundaries and agency
• subjective worlds and why shared joy bonds us
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SPEAKER_00Today we're going to be chatting about moods and how they can be so contagious. Exactly. If you're feeling jolly, you will have a smile on your face and that will be a reflection. That will be a reference. Just like in the mood. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So we all know this. We do know. But we forget. But we forget how we could actually use it in our favour. Yes, that is true. That is true. We're also going to be reading you a story from one of our, you know, from one of our books that we wrote. Exactly. Trancing Tales with Changes. Yeah, it was one of our first books. And I think, you know, that's all of our original content that we wrote at the time. And it's coming from a place of experience, a place from where we've things that we've, you know, we've experienced ourselves and also how we've managed to help all the people. So we do want to share these things in our podcast. We do want to share it. And thank you for watching. We tend to forget. Thank you so much for tuning in every week and listening to us wherever you get your podcast. And you can also see the video on YouTube. Please do subscribe to our YouTube channel because even though it's been open for like 15 years, we're still wanting to grow and reach more people. Yeah, definitely, definitely. That needs to get moving, doesn't it? So you have to subscribe and follow us, and that will help us a lot. So thank you so much. Thank you. And so get ready for this week's episode of Get Real with the English sisters, Violeta and Jotka. Sugo. We are therapists too, and we are here to help you. And we are real sisters, and we love each other very much. We do, we do, we do. We're having big hugs if you can see us on YouTube. We don't often say it. What do you mean? Well, like when you said I love you so much for your birthday and I appreciate it. I love you every day. Like when you say I love you, I love you. No, we don't do that. But we know how much. We know it in our hearts. We don't know. I often just the other day I was telling my husband, I was saying, because he said, Oh, you look so pretty. And I go, Do you know why I look pretty? Because I've got Violetta. Honestly, because Violetta keeps me going, you know, like she's always telling me about the makeup and the clothes and by this and by that. And he said, Really? I go, Yeah. I go, Do you think I would still look pretty? I mean, I would probably forget. Because yeah, I'm I you know I'm not like you. But you used to make me look pretty when you were young. Yeah, but I've never really been somebody like that. You know, I wouldn't, you know, you know, I I I I do I love it. I love looking pretty, but you know, it's I look pretty because you inspire me, you know, because it's like a lot of girlfriends. Or around someone that's always liking, you know, the pretty makeup or the hair and telling me let's go and do our hair, why don't we get like this colour or why don't we buy this? And you know, we don't we don't spend a fortune, little things, but like you inspire me. Well, I like fashion a lot. You love fashion, so you're telling me no, this is out, this is in, and I might not realise it, you know. So I am and he actually acknowledged it. He said, Really? I go, Oh yeah, 50% of it. 50%. He said, Yeah, but you're pretty anyway. I go, Ah, am I? I go, No, I am pretty, but Violetta certainly helped me look prettier, that's for sure, and be current with the times. I think that's what because I think that's what like friends that inspire girlfriends, friends, and if you're looking like if you look at a little bit more current, and there's no limits really to what how we can experience our age now. We can just wear whatever we want. Yeah, we can wear mini skirts if we want, even though we're older whenas before it was like unheard of, wasn't it? Absolutely. So, anyway, that was a little shall we shall we read it? Where is it? Here it is, reflections. Uh thought it's actually called reflections. I didn't know it's gonna be reflections. Yes, reflections of how you are acting and of your behaviour are all around you all the time. Your moods are contagious and will be caught by those nearby. Whether you are feeling ratty, happy, or sad. Be aware that those around you will be influenced. Know that you have the power to change the dynamics around you always. This may be surprising, but it is true. You may wonder why your children always act up. Why they shout and scream, or why somebody is taking advantage of you in all these situations. The first person to check out is yourself. That may be hard to believe because we all tend to attribute fault to somebody else. Change your internal state of well-being. Talk to the people in your world coming from a place of calm confidence. Add a smile and a lovely word. And watch how your actions are reflected, almost like looking in the mirror. A mirror of your emotions, reflected across your world. Yes. That's it. Everyone has their own little world. And I think that we often forget to realize that our world is a reflection of our behavior, of our emotions, of how we are reflecting to our world, our bubble, what's in it. It's just a reflection of ourselves, and that is very, very true. Sometimes almost hard to believe. It's hard to believe, and it can almost be scary because it's we have to take the responsibility and the power. The power and the responsibility of how we are feeling and how that's going to affect everyone around us. Yeah, and you can't just say the world is, you know, a horrible place and I hate my this and I hate this and I hate that. Wonder how you're reacting to that. Your workplace, you hate it. How is how are you entering that space? Dull, gloomy, depressed. You enter that space. People around you are the reflection of you, your internal state. They cannot avoid it. We're humans, we react that way. We do, we do, we do, and we forget it, but we do. Yeah, and it's it's it's ever so empowering, but like I say, it can be a bit scary as well because you can say, Well, why? Why should it be me? Why should I have to take like the blame or for for how I'm feeling? Yeah, why do I feel ratty? Why can't you know, why can't other people be happy around me? But and and why can't they give me all the good energy? But no, people will tend to. They can, they can. Sometimes they can, however, if you are the uh the controller of your life, if you take control, you can hold the light, you can be the one with the candle lit inside you, you can hold that light, and you will find that empowering if you do it. You don't always have to be the one to carry the light, and you can have your feelings and your emotions. However, considering that the world you see is the only world you'll ever live in, and we all see different worlds, we all experience different things. Yeah, it's the only world you're ever gonna get to see. You can never really see my world or Violetta's world, even if we even if we're living the same situation, interact, we're all on a plane, so everyone will think, well, that's the same world for everyone. We're all traveling to the same destination. However, my experience of that journey will be different from your experience, and why? Because of the way I am feeling, and because of what I am going to be reflecting. So if I'm feeling calm and confident and I'm smiling, and people around me are gonna eventually catch that. Maybe not quickly, but they'll they'll sense it. They'll sense the goodness. Yeah, it's like what people say, people that you know I was gonna say drive horses, you know, the ones that ride horses, and that you know, they it's funny. Horse riders, yeah, it's funny that because the other day I went to the bar just down the road, and me and my husband we saw two horses parked, like literally parked outside. I thought that's so cute. They were like tied by their reins on the fence outside that was it, the the um the one I call Mileti, but it's not Mileti, the one uh near Palestrina. Ah yeah, on a piece of grass. It's not like where I live, where there's loads of horses. No, it's so weird that it was like almost, you know, like hypnotic. We saw it. George said, Oh yeah, that was strange. There were just two horses parked on the road park. I mean, like in the West. Yeah, like in the West Ends. Anyway, that's just a side thing. But I was thinking about horses and I thought how if you're nearly if you're feeling like very anxious or nervous around them, you know, the instructor will tell you to calm down. You say take a few deep breaths before you approach the animal. Because they can sense it. Yeah, because they'll sense it. We forget that we're all animals, and if you do forget that we forget that all the time. Yeah, we think we're above. We're above, we're superior beings, we're human beings, yes. But we do, we do catch people's um feelings and emotions and negativity. We've got to realise that our face is going to be reflected in other people. Our face is going to express all the emotions, it expresses it whether we think we're expressing it or not. Micro expressions are caught by everybody, unconsciously, they're caught. Some people think, no, I didn't see any micro expression. Well, did are you sure? Do you like that person? And then they'll say, Well, no, not really. Well, then there's a reason why you don't particularly like that person, or why you think that person isn't being fully honest. Why do you like me? Is it why you like me because I'm being sincere, and because if I'm going to be smiling at you, it's gonna be sincerely. That's why you feel like you like me, like you know me. You know, like some people you think you really like them. That's why. I often wonder why people are very happy around me, but I suppose it's because I'm very happy. You always say that. Because then I see other when they're interacting with other people, they're not that in a good mood. And I was thinking, because I said it to you the other day about the other day. Well, we hadn't seen her for ages, and I said, but whenever she sees, whenever I see her, she's always so happy and smiling. You said that's because you're always so happy and smiling. Exactly, that proves exactly you're always laughing, and then she finds it really funny. She does laugh. Yeah, because you're the giggler, you're giggling, you're happy, you're bubbly, you're bubbly around her. Whatever problems you've got in your life, you make sure to reflect this. This you're careful and and you're naturally inclined to, but you will have that lovely smile on your face, and they'll they'll pick it up and they think, Oh, Violette is always happy. Yeah, they always think I haven't got any problems. Yeah, yeah. Whether of course we all have them because we're alive, exactly. So it's what it's it's about the frame you put around them, and if you're optimistic and you think, you know, this two shall pass. Exactly. Yeah, but I'm gonna enjoy the moment now. I'm having this moment with this person. I think it's about being in the moment, so allowing your mind just to be there right now, and of course, you can share your problems if you've got, you know, if you know the person, it's it's lovely to share and you know, to give comfort and solace. A problem shared is a problem half, only so true. That is so very, very true, and and that's lovely to be able to express, but in this particular case, we're talking about you know what people how people feel when they you know you intuitively we all know this, don't we? We we kind of know it. Oh no, that person enters. It's not just because they're gonna be a drag and they're depressingly always looking for some gloom, it's also because of how they act as well, isn't it? Well, yeah, it's what's reflected. We we we do we do act like a reflection to the people we interact with. Yes, mirror neurons, this is science, you know. The baby will do it with the mama immediately. Look at the mama, the mama's got a happy expression. Hello, you know, the baby's. People always smile at babies and uh always happy with babies because we want our babies to be happy. Yes, if you put a sad expression on your face, you'll soon see your baby's gonna cry really quickly, yeah. And uh, and and you know, that's something that we've we tend to forget, and and it's it's empowering to know that you do have the power to change, like what we wrote in our story. You have the power to change your dynamics around you always. So if you feel that the you know the room is really heavy, you have the power to do a quick pattern interrupt and say, Hey, do you remember that lovely film we watched last week? It was so cute, and there was a cute puppy in it that we really loved, and then people can say, Oh yeah, I really like that, and uh you know. Well, yeah, no, it's true. It's true. I mean it's not might sound silly, but even at funerals, people laugh, don't they? They have they have they have to to to to diffuse attention that you find that you laugh a lot of the times out of nervousness and nervousness, but it's a way of for our body to cope, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. I think we do forget that. That even out of nervousness, you know, we we we have to release attention. Yeah you're talking about this because you have to go to a funeral soon, unfortunately. No, but I was thinking also about how at mum's funeral we were laughing, we were finding it quite funny. Some of this, some of the stuff. Yeah, some of the stuff was just ridiculous, also, what the you know the priest was saying, because we in the end we got a priest because our mum was. Oh, it was a total mess up. And then I remember I just picked up on the fact that if you look up, you can instantly feel that's a good thing, you know, to actually share with you guys. If you're actually feeling quite down, it's surprising the fact that just the simple act of looking up is actually quite difficult to feel sad if you look up. You know, if you're feeling like you're gonna be tearing up or something, and you look up, notice this, you know. Remember this when you do it next time. You know, if you look up, it's gonna be hard for you to access the sad feeling, but it's really easy to feel sad if you look down. And you're looking down all of a sudden, you know. I mean, I wonder why people call it feeling down. Well, exactly. You know, if you think about it, maybe it probably comes from that. Because you actually feel down, you feel like uh sad, and you're looking, you're actually with your eyes, our eyes are a reflection of how we're feeling when we're feeling happy or inquisitive or we're wondering about something, where eyes will be looking around, you know, like that. We're being curious, we're being curious. Yeah, so you're looking, you're wondering, you're accessing memories, you're thinking about something, you're always going to be looking up, and I think it's accessing memories, it's to your right. I can't remember a bit dyslexic. I can't remember. When is it when you think about something that we think? I think I look up and to my accessing cues. Everyone has different ones, aren't they? Well, yeah, but there are some that are very common. Yeah, the common leaders. You try and remember, normally you look up and to your left. You look up to your left. Yeah. If I try and imagine something. So you're looking that way. So if I want to try and imagine a bed, I look up and then I look up to my left to picture.
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SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, I did actually look to my left. Whereas remembering memories or something, you look to your right, I think. Up and to your right. Like if you remember something from our childhood. I might go up to my right while I but it does change, yeah. So it changes where you're looking. If you're looking to see where they're accessing their memories, you can you can play around with it and change it so that they can have less you can have less emotion tied to a m memory by changing where your eyes are, yeah. Where you're actually when you're actually thinking. That's incredible, isn't it? It's like it's like you follow the finger, then and you can actually change where you're how you're feeling. That's amazing, isn't it? It's amazing. It's like those the game, you know, the game. That's probably where those games are relaxing. Where they move them around, you know, like the pads. Yeah, you can sort of like move your eyes. That's why you're getting those games that you play are relaxing because your eyes are going across, they're going to different places. I didn't think of that. Yeah. That could be because I've never really played those games. You're accessing different parts of your brain that you probably wouldn't normally access. Incredible. That's probably why, you know. The fact is that we tend to forget that our internal state is reflected. Yeah, and that I think he is connected to our brain. Yeah, we think, oh no, how I'm feeling, I can get away with this. Like yesterday, I saw somebody come towards me and um and they had they had their jaw, it was very, very tight. And I picked up on that and I thought, oh dear, this is a sign of strong, uh a high, strong person, somebody that's undergoing a lot of pressure in this moment, and I knew that, and I thought, you know, in the moment I can't really help that person right now. So I thought my best choice is to go away and let that person decompress because he wasn't my uh patient, it wasn't my client. So I thought I'm not going to be involved in this right now. But I picked up on those signs and I thought, oh dear, you know, best step away. Sometimes if you can you can be quick at them as well, you can realise things. I mean, we all kind of know. Yes, if you enter a room and you can see someone's very tense and like very charged, you can diffuse that tension by you know by leaving or looking away, you know. Obviously, you're not gonna antagonize and you can confront, which is what happens in a lot of when people when couples are arguing, they can sense one of the one of the people is very ready to like bite and ready to bite, and instead of them like backing down and acknowledging that and allowing for space, they they go in there too because they feel they've immediately feel like charged because they can sense they've caught the emotion. It's contagious, though somebody enters your space and they could be very diligent to think no and cut, you know, break it and go away and make yourself a cup of tea or coffee and then come back a bit later. But that's those are skills that I think over life you learn if you're slightly aware of them, but then some people never do learn. I think if you're listening, I remember if you're listening to this podcast, you're in for the learning. So I know we know that you will learn and you will. I remember, do you remember Latia Kamina? Yeah, I do remember Latia Kamina. Eat late there. Every single time he would make our aunt cry. Oh gosh, yes. Every day, every tense. He would come off the building and say tense, and he would say something to upset her, whether it was about the meal or about the children. It's like every day she would cry. And I said to her, You actually therapist then. No, you were only 18. Yeah, no, I wasn't around 21. 21 was quite part of my university. Erasmus thing, yeah. So I went there and I immediately noticed it and I said, Tia, but why don't you just step away and just ignore that? Because you know it will pass, and he's just doing it to provoke a reaction in you to get that attention off you. And she said, she I don't know if she didn't do it, she didn't, she couldn't do it. She didn't do it, she would not do it. I don't know if because she was tied up into this like tensing and then they would make up and have kissy kissy afterwards. I don't know. There might have been other patterns that you have in the way. She felt loved that way. She did, because she would come in with you. Yeah, afterwards he would say quantum. You know, he would give her all these compliments in Spanish. I remember that behaviour. I remember seeing the pattern really clearly, even though I was a lot, you know, I was young. I remember seeing it and thinking, what's going on here? There's like a dance, it's like the aggression, the fight, the crying, and probably the makeup sex afterwards, you know. Got I don't know, in the day it was a lot. I mean, they didn't have a lot of children, so there might have been whatever it was, but it was. It was the dance going on between them, like some kind of courtship, you know, like attack, attack, attack, her crying, and this and this. What why? What's the point of that? Because she was sincerely upset though. She wouldn't have to be able to do that. That's why that would get upset. And so upset. She was so upset. She would, and it would last for like an hour or something. Yeah. And then she he would come to her and she would say, Leave me alone. Yeah. So there was this whole dance of uh then I refuse you, and then you want me, and then oh, so it's a whole dance going on there, you know. Obviously, yeah, but okay, I can't. That's okay. Yeah, if you that's what I told her in the end. I said, Tia, the must I start if you like this and you're happy with it, okay. But no, it's a pattern and it's gonna happen every day. And it did happen every day. Yeah, every day. But then what would get to me was that like you could say, yeah, when she used to say, Let's go away, let's go and hold, let's go to England, say, for example, to see our mum. He would always say no. And so then she would have a big upset again and cry and be really upset. No, he never wants to do anything, he always wants to be working, working. And I used to say, Tia, but can't you see? He always says no, and then in the end, he always goes with you. So just back off and just plan the trip, and then he'll come. And then she used to say, Oh, you can really see things clearly, Villetta. Oh my gosh, I don't know, I don't know. She's still she every trip it was the same. Yeah, nothing ever changed. Nothing ever changed. So I think if you can you have the power to change your dynamics in your relationship with with how you are, yeah. Because maybe if instead of crying, she's acting all flirty in that moment. Or like saying, Don't be silly, and like or going away and then coming back and saying, Okay, this is ready now, and not crying. Exactly. She might have encouraged him not to do that, and she could have changed the pattern. She would have become more empowered. That's exactly what I was thinking. If when if when he what would attack her with I don't know what he used to say to her, about the dinner or the kids or something. Something that the kids that would have it was, I mean, they were all grown up, but he would say something or she'd left something out. It was also like a very emotional person that would be, you know, she would she she would she was recipient to this as well because if he was giving, she would receive. So if you decide not to receive that message, you can also say, Oh no, I'm gonna send this message back, you know, to I'm not going to accept that message right now. But she would always accept it to the deepest level. So you wonder, you know, why this was going on, but anyway, this isn't a therapy session about our auntie, even though we often have these kind of thoughts and sessions in our own minds about why people don't want to change, and there are secondary gains perhaps here. She was probably getting a lot of attention afterwards from him. You know, there's so many reasons why we continue to repeat the same behaviour, and we know it's stupid, but we will continue to do it, and we have to decide why, and if we're happy with that, just continue doing it. But if you want something to change, be awareness, you have to become aware with it, that's fine. You'll know this is gonna happen every day. This is gonna happen. There's gonna be a fight, there's gonna be you want to live like that. That's okay, you know. If you're accepting, you're fully responsible for it, but you can change it if you want to change it. And we're not talking about a highly abusive person here that was, you know, he would say little things that would trigger her dramatically, like, oh, there's too much salt in there, it's salty, and that would be enough. I remember, you know, seeing emotional and make her cry because she would turn away or her cooking, you know. She would make like the chickpea broth, and he would come and say, Yeah, it's salty. I don't like it. That's enough. Or the breakfast was right. You know, he would give some small criticism that she could just say, Who cares? Who cares? It's salty, you know. You're lucky, like our mum would have said, You're lucky you get this deal. She would have gone and for a whole week. How dare you! Yeah, my mum would have just walked out. You know, we were we were brought up with a completely different feminist for her time out with it. She would have hate cooking and said, You cook now for a week. Oh, absolutely. There was nothing about the I remember dad once said something about her cooking. She went off to cooking classes every day. She said, You don't like our cooking, that's it then. Yeah, now I'm going to join a club. He hated it because he wanted her to be at home in the evenings. He hated it. He would always say, Your mother's gone off to cooking school. And we said, Yeah, Dad, that's because you said you didn't like the way she made, you know, the apple pie or something. That's why she's gone to school. It's like, and then she had good fun at that school as well. She would really have a good laugh, and he would be stuck, you know, looking after us, and he would be having to give us, you know, the the food, feeding us and looking after us. I remember that, and that was so that she didn't like that kind of behaviour. No, she wouldn't put up with it. No, no, not she was much more evolved for her time. Considering she was born in the 20s, she was very 1926. Yeah, she was very, very advanced. But I guess you know, that's how that's how we were empowered. She would have been a hundred this year if she'd been a hundred. No goodness me. Wow, one hundred she would have been twenty-five. Oh, yeah, she was born in 1926. I didn't actually think that. No, I did think it this year. She could have lived a little longer. She could we never want our loved ones to go. No, no, nobody does, but yeah, you know, you think okay, the important thing is to live a good life. Yeah, most of the time. Most of the time she would contage everyone around her. They would say, It's a joy to have you. You know, she would be a child minder, and the kids would be happy around her, she would sing to them, they would all be happy. Then she was a nurse, and everyone around her adored her. They would say, When you enter the room, you're jolly, you're happy, you look after me. They felt as if she was a nurse in an old people's house. Auxiliary, she would do, you know, the hard job, you know, which is all nurses have really hard jobs. I would tell people that was afterwards. First of all, it was in the hospital. Yeah, it was just the Croydon Hospital. The Croydon Hospital. Yeah. She had a big job, she would work at night, night shifts. She would work so hard, she would have to get there on a bicycle. She would go to work on a little red bicycle, she really was a superhero. No, she really was. And during the day, she would be a child minder, she would do absolutely everything she could to provide for us to give us girls, you know, the best possible chance. And our dad used to work too, but I think she she really did. He would do what was on the building there. But he would work what his official hours at the end of it. That was it. He would make no more sacrifices, and we knew that as children. He was a darling, he would do everything he could, but it wasn't like our mum. Our mum would not, you know, if she had a piece of you know, food and we wanted more, she would give it to us from her plate. He wouldn't, he would say, Hey, where's my portion first? And it's not that we ever had to have any trouble with portions. Thank goodness we didn't, but I would always know that my mum would give me hers. You know, she would do that as a mother. Perhaps it's more common, you know, she would do anything possible for us. You think they're from different generations as well, where men were more spoiled by the words. Definitely, men were uh like used to uh being served, and and he was already, yeah. He was he was quite modern, and mum was so modern for the times, yeah. She was that she was very independent. But this is what we're we're getting all this background from our worlds. This is the world that we lived in, and yet my uh my uh memories are going to be different from your memories, even though we're siblings, and you can say, Yes, we should we had shared experiences, but my experiences were different to your experiences, even though they were shared always, and ever nobody can ever live the same, which is sometimes rather weird as well. Right, it's rather strange. Yeah, when you realize it, when you become aware of it, it's rather strange because you just think the world is one, everyone's the same. You think, hey, we've been on the same holiday together. You remember that, it was great, and you think, ah, it wasn't great. Why wasn't it great? Because at that particular moment your internal state was different. Perhaps you were concerned, you were worried, you had something going on in your mind that was different to the other person. It's never gonna be the same. It's unusual to experience very both the same emotions, and when you do, that's when you often fall in love. Fall in love. That's what I was gonna say. One of those moments when you do share a particular experience and you both really connect, that's when a lot of the times it's when you're actually falling in love with somebody. And it can be like a sexual relationship, or you just be falling in love with a friend and it'd be a platform where you really close with that one person and you think, yes, I like I feel as if I'm really know you. A lot of the time when you're going to shared reflective experience. Have you both been reflected when you have to do something that's high adrenaline that can often happen? Like when you're both experiencing something like something quite shocking for you, like both getting on a helicopter for the first time or doing something quite very high, either really scary. That's why they say that a lot of times colleagues like in the task forces can have strong relationships. Yeah, because they both have these kind of like very strong emotions. But I think in our little worlds, we have to remember that we our emotional states will be reflected as if in a mirror to other people. So let's let's just become more and more aware of that and remember that every day it's gonna happen with your children, with your families, with your friends, co-workers, the person that serves you, whoever it is, they will feel it to a certain extent. So I think we just remember that we're all being more empowered and happier, and more and more understanding as well and empathetic of other people and what they're going through as well. Because if we can read what they're going through, we can also help them and say, hey, we can hold space for you as well. Exactly. You don't always have to be smiling and laughing and happy, no, but you just know that you can be aware of that. So let us know what you think and how you're gonna be. I want to be happy and smiley today. The sun is shining, and even if it wasn't, we could pretend it is. You can have you can hold the smile, you know, in the sun. You've got we've got memories of sunshine. We have lots of them. So we can hold that. So love and smiles from the English system. Do come and subscribe to our YouTube where you can see us in person. You can see the video. And thank you so much for listening all over the world. We love you so much. Bye bye. Bye bye. Bye.