Yahweh’s Money®️: The Crossroads of Religion & Money

Hoard Love And Not Money

• Shay Cook & Vanessa McNelley • Season 3 • Episode 66

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What if the real treasure isn’t found in your bank account, but in the love and relationships you nurture? Join Shay Cook and Vanessa McNelley as they embark on a heartfelt exploration of what it truly means to prioritize love over material wealth. Inspired by Matthew 6:19-21, we reflect on the eternal versus the ephemeral, sharing personal stories that lay bare the impermanence of earthly possessions and the profound value of love. Through these narratives, we reveal how aligning our financial choices with our faith can lead to a life rich in purpose and fulfillment.

Imagine a life where generosity and faith guide your financial decisions, much like the inspiring example of a grandfather who finds joy in giving despite having little. We discuss how this mindset can transform your life, bringing true abundance and contentment that material wealth often fails to deliver. By contrasting the lasting nature of love with the fleeting allure of possessions, we encourage listeners to reevaluate their priorities, recognizing that while love may not foot the bills, it enriches life in unparalleled ways.

As we navigate a world filled with challenges, we emphasize the importance of compassion and empathy, urging a shift away from materialistic pursuits. Through poignant personal stories, including the heartrending loss of a beloved pet, we underscore the necessity of understanding and respecting others. Our conversation highlights how spiritual money management—rooted in religious principles—can guide us towards financial decisions that genuinely reflect our values. By choosing to approach finances Yahweh's way, we invite you to discover a more meaningful and connected life.

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Shay:

Ever felt those awkward vibes when religion and money come up? You're not alone. Welcome to Yahweh's Money, the podcast where we tackle the crossroads of faith and finance. I'm Shay Cook, an Accredited Financial Counselor, and the CEO and founder of Crusaders for Change LLC.

Vanessa:

And I'm Vanessa McNelley, Accredited Financial Counselor and COO of Crusaders for Change. Join us on our journey as we discuss topics like tithing saving and conquering debt through religious perspectives. Let's get started.

Shay:

Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of Yahweh's Money. Hey, beautiful Vanessa, how are you? I am good, Shay, how are you? I'm good. I'm excited about this episode. We're talking about hoarding love and not money. I mean, how many of us can do that? I mean, how many of us have done that right, have hoarded love or hoarded money and not?

Vanessa:

love and vice versa. I'll tell you, I'm not a big proponent of hoarding anything, but I can get behind this one.

Shay:

Well, after the pandemic I think I hoard toilet tissue and wipes sanitary wipes but other than that I'm pretty good.

Vanessa:

So that's where they've all gone, Shay. Now I know the secret Guilty, I'm guilty.

Shay:

Well, everyone. Today's episode is all about prioritizing what matters love over money. Vanessa and I will explore the idea that if you were more focused on earthly treasures than on God's eternal gifts, we might need a heart check. From our spending habits to how we treat others, we uncover practical ways to align our financial choices with our faith. If you're ready to transform your relationship with money and love, then you definitely need to stick around. So Matthew 6, 19 through 21, the message version tells us don't hoard treasure down here, where it gets eaten by moths and corroded by rust or, worse, stolen by burglars. Stockpile treasure in heaven, where it's safe from moth and rust and burglars. It's obvious, isn't it? The place where you treasure is is the place you will most want to be and end up being.

Vanessa:

Amen, amen, oh goodness, when you're reading that, it's like you can visualize somebody coming in and stealing your most precious things.

Shay:

Yeah, my precious. I'm a Lord of the Rings fan y'all. And I want to add one more thing from the scripture notes of verse 621. So the same passage here of Matthew. It talks about how Jesus made it clear that having the wrong treasures leads to our hearts being in the wrong place. Amen. What we treasure the most controls us, whether we admit it or not. If possessions or money become too important to us, we must reestablish control or get rid of those items. Jesus calls for a decision that allows us to live contently with whatever we have, because we have chosen eternal value over temporary earthy treasures All right, preach, preach, preach.

Vanessa:

So yeah, so have you ever had anything taken from you, like anything very valuable stolen from you, or or that has been lost in fire, or anything like that?

Shay:

I've actually been pretty blessed with that. So thank you, jesus. I don't know why my mind goes back to oh. I think I know why because we were in a car the other day and there was a song that came on. I was like I remember that CD and somebody stole my CDs and my daddy had to go get them. We were in Germany, I was a teenager and we were at a dance and I let somebody borrow some CDs to play at the dance and that man, that boy at the time, did not give me back my CDs and I was so mad about that. So that was minor. But I know people, especially in the climate that we're in right now, are losing major treasures and that can be really hard.

Vanessa:

Have you, I have not either. I've had somebody break in my car a few times and they usually just have ransacked things, but my, my aunt, she had somebody go into her house and burglarize her home and she literally walked in on the situation.

Shay:

Oh, my God.

Vanessa:

So she just came in the house she always had her certainties where she would do certain things and she literally backed out the house because she knew something was wrong and all of her jewelry was taken, everything.

Vanessa:

And I remember how hard that was for her and it just it still bothers her to this day, and it was probably 15 to 20 years ago when that happened. So I can't even imagine how that would feel. But you know, we're talking about something the opposite of that right now and something that can't be taken from us or stolen. So you know, we know God wants us to be good stewards of the wealth or the income or the money or the things that he gives us, but he just doesn't want us to prioritize it. And I think that's hard for a lot of us because we kind of fixate on things as humans and we fixate on okay, well, I want to do the right thing, I want to do this, but if our hearts and our minds are truly in the right place and we go to that place of love, we don't really think about those things, and those things matter less as materialistic items.

Shay:

They really do. I mean God is so good with that. I mean, if you really know love and experience love, and then you kind of veer left and like you're focused on the money and the fame and the publicity. Whatever your thing is, whatever your idol is right, your possessions you know, then you, once you go back to the love part, you're like I should have stayed over on this side because it just feels better.

Shay:

The competition is low, your ego is tamed, your spirit is vibrant. I don't know. It just feels better, it just feels so much better. But I understand, money is great too, right, but it's a tool. It's a tool, exactly.

Vanessa:

Exactly, and love gives us purpose. It gives our lives purpose, and money can cause an emptiness in us, and I think we've probably all been through that thing where we think we know what we want and we kind of chase after this thing and we get there and we're like whoa, wait a minute, it didn't fill that void that I have in me, like there's still that void, and sometimes that void even gets bigger. It does. It does so if we have a life full of love, we have purpose and we have people around us and we have a reason to get out of bed and we're kind of more driven with all this and there's this fulfillment within us, and I think that's such a beautiful thing to think about. If we're not focused on the stuff or the money or whatever that item might be, we have all this room left in us for things that truly matter.

Shay:

Exactly, I agree with that. I know I've experienced the time in my life where my ego was out of control and I was trying to get this promotion, that promotion, this raise, that raise. And then, once I got it, I was able to accomplish some great feats with that, like money, like pay off student loans and all that. But after I achieved that, I'm like what's next? And it's like it's always what's next, you know, and it's always, you're always chasing it. It's like this never ending cycle that is quite annoying. Actually, with love, it's like, whether you love to travel, whether you love to help people, whatever you really love, and you put your passion into and purpose and, like I said, it gives you purpose, your family, your friends. That is just. It's just. It's a growing bloom of amazingness.

Vanessa:

It just feels good. It does, you know, and love can actually help us with generosity too, and helps us to uh, to share our resources and to help others and uplift others. I don't know if you know someone. I always talk about my grandfather and his amazing spirit and this joy that is within him, with his generosity, and it's all based from love. He loves other people and God's people so much that he would rather give the things that he has in this world to everyone else so that they feel secure than have them himself. And that is an amazing spirit to have this unlimited ability to say, hey, look, you know, I have more than I could ever need. Let me give you some. Let me give you some.

Vanessa:

And it's the coolest thing, like, we'll go to his house and he's you know, he's old school, so he still still does the envelope system with his money every month and he takes out what he needs, he thinks he needs for the month and then most of it, he gets away at the end of the month. He's the cutest thing. He's like look, I have this much left. What do you need? Do you want gas for the way home? Do you need this? And it really brings him this sense of fulfillment and purpose. And you see him light up and I'm like I want to be just like that.

Shay:

I know I want to be like that too. I try. I try to give my first fruits to a charity or a church or something. So that's always continued. Even when I feel like I can, I try to be faithful and obedient. But sometimes you're like, oh, I really want to go do this or do that. But I try not to slip up too much or I'll try to have conversations with God like, all right, god, you know where my heart is.

Shay:

So I really want to help my daughter get through college without student loans. So can I take a little bit of this money from church and charity to here? And he's like Shay, I got you. Little bit of this money from church and charity to here, and he's like Shay, I got you and it's a, and I'll do that after I have a conversation and get that convert confirmation. Then it's like God always provides even more. I just want to just when you're obedient to God like your grandfather, no wonder he's living still, no wonder he's still blessed, no wonder he's got love around him, because your grandfather has been obedient and that is beautiful. That is a testimony right there.

Vanessa:

It really is, and it's. It's cool to see how someone can live on so little and be so content and so happy too. I think that's the other part of this. You know, it's not like he's a multimillionaire. You know he has more than enough, though, and you know he's so like not wasteful with anything, and I think that brings on that sense of fulfillment and joy too, because he knows he has more than he needs. He's been blessed over and over again, but when it comes down to it, he has so much. He has so much he can just share, and he loves it. And it's I, just I love his spirit with all this Absolutely, so my mind always just goes back to him you know, but we think about love too.

Vanessa:

We think about how it lasts. Love is forever. You know, when you, when you lose somebody or there is something in your past that you have truly loved, you don't lose that feeling. May change because it's not there anymore, but you don't lose that feeling. But possessions are fleeting and I think that's so hard for some of us to see that these things that we want, they're just stuff. It's just stuff and we get in this point where that stuff means more than the relationships or the people or you know all these things and it consumes us and it becomes an obsession. I know when my grandmother passed away my dad's mom, my dad was kind of obsessed with her stuff and he brought her whole living room set up and reestablished it in our basement. First off it was pretty creepy number one, but it was this fixation of stuff and to him her stuff was her oh yeah, people do that, exactly, exactly.

Vanessa:

I mean I can remember even a roll of like of paper towels like you could not use them because they belong to her and all that stuff just sat there for years and it got old and would break down because it wasn't climate controlled and all for years. And it got old and would break down because it wasn't climate controlled and all these things, and it just disintegrated basically. So it's like you have this stuff that's not going to last, but those memories and that love you have for that person, it's still there.

Shay:

But people do it right, they value.

Shay:

You know, usually it's like a chain, a jury, a ring or something like that that people want to carry on, especially after somebody passed traumatically or you know, and they're like it just reminds them and they can touch this ring and like, okay, it really reminds me of this person, like connects you but, like you're saying, love is forever and that's in your heart. You know, I really believe, like when somebody leaves this or part of their spirit is with you, especially if they're a relative, but even if they're a friend or a spouse or something like, they leave that love in you and so I know your heart might be broken after all of that, but that's just to me, even more a sign that you love them, if your heart's broken and feeling for them. So I mean, when you lose a possession, yeah, you might have been obsessed about it, but it ain't nothing like love. I mean, when you lose a possession, yeah, you might have been obsessed about it, but it ain't nothing like love. I mean, I don't know, I choose love over money any day.

Vanessa:

So a hundred percent agree. And you know, and there are people who, let's say, something happens and you know you lose something or it breaks or something happens to your favorite shirt in the washing machine. Some people get so distraught and so upset over that and to me I'm like it was just a shirt, it was just a this, a that, like. I understand emotions can be attached to that, but it's the reality of it is. There are so many other things out there that I would rather have than that $400 sweatshirt or whatever it might be. You know it's, it's. There's so many other memories or experiences or that love. It all comes back to love.

Shay:

But you know some people will say love don't pay the bills.

Vanessa:

I just want.

Shay:

I want to honor those people out there and be like, yeah, y'all talking about this love, but yeah, hey, love don't pay the bills.

Vanessa:

So I mean you got to work, you got to make some money, you know, but I think, if you truly have that love, it inspires you and it gives you that motivation to do this.

Shay:

Oh, that's good, that's a good comeback.

Vanessa:

But you know we have these experiences with love too. You know we have family gatherings, we have trips, we have those intimate moments with somebody you just really care about, where it's just these conversations that you have that really brings you together and it can deepen that joy than just acquiring something new. I mean I would much rather go and sit and have a conversation under the stars with my boyfriend than us, like go to a fancy dinner, because we're really connecting and we're we're growing together. And I think that's what people miss is it's about these connections, these experiences, these moments that deepen that relationship and that love, versus just saying here you go, here's a steak.

Shay:

That's really good. I'm thinking about upcoming holidays coming. We've decided to host the whole Toll family, my dad's side of family. We're talking about 60, some people, which is crazy, and we're the first in this generation to do it. My aunts and uncle and my father have done it for decades and I keep on want to do. You know my and I'm going to share this with her afterwards because I'm like oh, I want to put this decoration here, I want to get this thing here.

Shay:

And she's like you're doing too much. She's like people just gonna come over and they're not gonna remember that you got ornaments like so I'm like you know, because you know you watch like the kardashians and you see them online and they go super overboard with decorations. To me it's kind of wasteful. I'm sorry because, like, what do you do with that every year, unless you're repurposing every year? But I'm like, oh, we can get snow coming down fake snow coming down the hallway, we can have lights here. And she's like stop, that is too much.

Shay:

And to me what you're saying is like I should be just happy and in love with the idea of having my aunts and my uncles, my cousins, siblings, parents come over and have great conversations, establishing great memories, then worry about having a bunch of expensive, you know, decorations or all this brand food, you know, because it's really about the time and the love of us coming together and the signify how we're moving from one generation to another, and me and my husband are the first to do it, and to me that's really cool too. And not to brag, but I'm like hey, like we're, we're stepping up and saying we want to continue these traditions, family gatherings, because it does bring deeper joy, yeah, yeah. Then, even gifts, like you don't, we don't need to give gifts.

Vanessa:

The gifts is being with each other Exactly, and I think people lose sight of all that too. And I know anytime you host something, you're so busy and you're so caught up in the hosting that you miss out a lot. I know, like with us. I have one aunt who always hosts Thanksgiving and she can't do anything in her own mind, she can't participate, she can't be part of anything and we'll have this whole day and she'll be like oh, I didn't know you guys did that or I didn't have any idea. X, y, z happened. And it's like because you're so caught up in making sure everything's perfect that you miss out on the love and the experiences and the conversation, even though what you're doing is not needed or wanted in that moment. What's wanted is you and your presence.

Shay:

And when we move on now to consideration and empathy, which I think is a great segue when you're talking about hoarding love and not money, because we do need to consider other people. And I added empathy because that's a part of this as well. Like, empathy is the ability to understand and share the feelings of another person. So empathy is the goal Right, but, most importantly, being considerate whether it's thoughtful, concerned, mindful, kind, compassionate I know I have that conversation with a lot of my family members being compassionate, generous, polite and sensitive.

Vanessa:

It fosters a and you think about joy and love and I think all this comes with it. I think it's inevitable that you're going to be compassionate, You're going to be kind, You're going to be more mindful if you truly embrace the spirit of love versus hoarding possessions. That it just comes natural and I think some of us it's a little easier than others, but I think it's just part of the process.

Shay:

It just becomes second nature but I think it's just part of the process. It just becomes second nature. So you think people that are focused on money or not consider it.

Vanessa:

I guess that cause that becomes their main focus. I yeah, I mean I don't think it's necessarily a hundred percent, but I think it's easier to get caught up in those things and you become less kind, less compassionate, less mindful, because you're you're bragging about the things you have and you're talking about the pretentious things and you're telling people oh, I have this.

Vanessa:

or I waited in line seven hours for the newest phone or whatever it is too, and we're less sensitive that way too, because we're so fixated on the things we have versus the things other people don't have.

Shay:

I think it puts your ego on blast, which is not a good thing, right? So if you're so focused on the money, compassion is more from the spiritual level. It's more from the human spirit level versus the ego which we need. Ego to be competitive, we need ego as a necessary evil. Unfortunately, I think you can't leave out the ego. But the ego can get out of control so it can take people down, it can cause wars, it can cause a lot of things, and so being considerate really transforms, transforms interactions into meaningful experiences, and I think that's key. Like, again, from the spiritual level, I'm sure God wants us to be considerate of other kind of others, love others and then through all of that you know, it turns into a meaningful experience, something that you can hold on to. When your family's going through something, when somebody passes, you have those experiences, those memories of that person.

Vanessa:

So yeah, being considerate is the key.

Vanessa:

You do and if you think about, you know you can have the same conversation with two different people and one person is full of love and the other person is, you know, fixated on these worldly things. The same exact conversation. It can go two completely different ways. You know you have that conversation with somebody who's more focused on worldly things, you know. One example that I think about is when my dog passed away. My dog was my little girl and you know people are like oh well, you can just get another dog, you can just buy one.

Vanessa:

And then you have a conversation with somebody who's more empathetic and more conscious and they're like I'm so sorry, julia is gone and they bring her name into it and they bring these things into it and they show you that they know there was love there and even though they may not understand it because some people you know that I know do not like dogs at all and cannot even understand the fact that I had a dog they come in with a different mindset and even though it's not something that's important to them, they know how important it was to you and it changes the whole encounter. So if you can come in with these things and these thoughts and this love for this other person to understand them and their situation more transforms everything Transforms everything, yeah, and empathy is huge, that compassion.

Shay:

But taking it a step further to an empathy, yeah. People keep going to ask me that when are you going to get another dog? I'm still not over my dog and I heard about Julia. I cried because that was like my little doggy too, like I don't want anybody to die. I know especially the doggies, you know. But having that empathy and knowing that was your baby, you know it's very important. Titan was my baby Exactly.

Vanessa:

And there will be. There will never be another Titan, ever Exactly.

Shay:

And I never try to take that away from somebody like I have a cousin who actually lost a child and I've never compared it to that, but it's still. It's heartbreaking either way and I hope that she would have empathy for me as I have for her. And when it comes to these, you know, consideration it really helps us recognize and respect the feelings and needs and perspectives of others and having that love is key. I mean, again focusing on money. A lot of people don perspectives of others and having that love is is key. I mean, again, focusing on money. A lot of people don't consider others. They're all about me, me, me, me, me. Like what do I want? It's just becomes this want, want, want, want. And it's really sad.

Vanessa:

It sounds like yeah, and you become more selfish and I think that's just part of all that, too, is you become focused on, on inward, like you're saying and you're not thinking about.

Vanessa:

well, you know, I'm going on this trip and I'm going to get a new car and I'm going to do all these things, and yet my cousin can't even afford a rent this month and they're struggling and they're working hard, but they're struggling and you know, if you're empathetic and you have this love in your heart, you're not going to have these conversations and talk about me, me, me, when that's going on with that person. I know Because you're more understanding the other situation.

Shay:

Exactly I'm feeling that way right now with the state of the world, everything from politics to the wars, to the the storms.

Shay:

It's like I don't even feel comfortable buying stuff outside of food and like basic necessities, because I'm like so many people are suffering, so many people are without, so many people with were without before all of this and will be after this. It still is just when it's highlighted, like with these storms and just getting a little bit emotional, with people losing everything and towns being wiped off the face of the earth. And I know God had the plan and he uses everything for his good. He's not about evil, he's not making evil things happen. He's not, you know, um, but it's still sad.

Shay:

Like I told my husband the other day, I'm sitting here talking about Christmas, I'm sitting here talking about going to New York and Philly and all these great things, and I'm like I don't feel comfortable having those conversations, even with my husband, because people are suffering. So that's where I guess I think I have the empathy and the compassion for these people, because I want to give, I want to support, I want to do what I can within, at least if it's just prayers, right, um, praying for these people?

Vanessa:

Um, yeah, so yeah, and you know, and there's so many ways I think people think, okay, well, I have to do without everything, so somebody else can have and that's not the case either, like we need to have our our basic needs met, obviously, and sprinkling some joy in there too, because God wants that for us.

Vanessa:

And we all have those seasons where we're kind of down in that, you know, down in that trench, and things are hard. And it might be a season where we're having a hard season and someone else is having a prosperous season, and that's okay, it's okay. But when we're having those prosperous seasons we need to look down and see the person who's in the trench and say how can I be a part of bringing them out of that?

Vanessa:

and we just kind of ebb and flow, ebb and flow with all this. So that when we're having a good time, we can bring somebody back up to help um with us you know, versus always kind of keeping somebody down, so exactly if we just have that balance and we know that I've got you. Now, at some point I'm going to need you to get me.

Shay:

Yeah, and this consideration creates a more compassionate and supportive environment for everyone and it allows us to embrace the love and grace we call, you know, to just be our call to embody that we're here to just give, and the grace and mercy God gives us, we should give to others, and that love and consideration. So that's where it's at. It's not about hoarding money, it's about hoarding love. That's the healthy.

Vanessa:

Exactly, exactly, and it takes time. If you're in this place of worldly possessions and you are just watching social media and you know you are just infatuated and kind of over all this stuff. It's like, okay, wait a minute, I've got to get back to this, but it's not going to happen overnight. It's not going to happen overnight. It's going to take some time, and that's okay too. So it's a learning process with all this but, once it becomes second nature.

Vanessa:

And we've embraced all this. That love and that grace is just going to be there and it's you're not going to think twice about it. It's just who you are Exactly and what a beautiful person to be around.

Vanessa:

I know, you know and when we go with all this too, we need to think about being humble and and really being a part of this and saying you know, even though I have this, I know you're somewhere else, so let me just step back, take a second, uh, and just know that you know money and status. It can inflate our egos, but humility can keep us grounded, amen. And you think about, well, what exactly is humility? And I think a lot of us think, okay, well, it's being, you know, modest and unpretentious, and I think.

Shay:

A lot of us think okay, well, it's being modest and unpretentious and lacking pride or arrogance and it is all of those things.

Vanessa:

But it's also being somebody who sits there in a room and there's 10 people and you don't stand up and say, well, I'm really good at that, I can do that, I can do this. Now, oh, I've got this, I can do that. That's not humble at all. So being able to sit back and somebody will notice, they'll know that you have XYZ talent or whatever it might be, it'll come out when it's supposed to. But we're not supposed to sit there and just say I am good at this and I'm good at everything. So we have to remember that aspect of humbleness too. And it also allows us to embrace growth. When we're humble, because we're open to change, because we know we are not the best at everything and we have room for growth and improvement. And there's always going to be somebody better than us and that's okay, but we should strive to be better.

Shay:

I love that. I know I have gone through the stages where I was not humble my ego I have a very big ego, so learning humility has been hard and obviously the environment God teaches you humility, because your ego will get knocked down If it hasn't already been, it will with humility. We understand that everyone has value, regardless of their wealth and status, and humble people approach relationships with an open heart, willingness to listen, which really fosters true friendship and relationships. And that's what we need is we need the love, we need to be there for each other. You cannot do life alone. You need each other, and so that's the word, the humbleness, come in the consideration and the love.

Vanessa:

Exactly, and I think we've all had those friends too who are takers, and you know we have friends who were like you know they only call you when they need something or they need to talk or vent about themselves.

Vanessa:

And then we have those friends that we know if we haven't talked to them in a year, if we call them, it's going to be a true conversation. You're each going to love each other, respect each other and be there for each other, and that's a whole different dynamic than somebody who's just a you know a time sucker taker. Exactly so when we surround ourselves with humble people, the gift we get back is going to be immense.

Shay:

Yeah Well, the people you want to be like you need to surround yourself with. So if you want to be like, you need to surround yourself with. So if you want to be humble, you know, consider it. If you want to love, you know others and hoard love and not money, you need to be around those kind of people and you know, of course, you're going to have the sprinkle of friends and family members that are just outrageously egotistical, narcissistic. The list goes on. You just have have to love all of them and hopefully you can love it out of them. But that's not your responsibility either.

Vanessa:

So let me be clear about that.

Shay:

And so, yeah, you got to have those boundaries, right, those healthy boundaries. But yeah. Wow, this is a lot. Any final thoughts?

Vanessa:

Yeah, I would just say, remember that a lot of people say, when you pass, it's not the things. Or spending more time you know, earning money for, for work or whatever it is that you're going to wish you had done, it's that love, those relationships, those experiences that people wish they had more of. So while you have time here, take the time to do that.

Shay:

Yeah, that's your legacy, right? Leave a legacy of love and not when you you know, on the head, on your headstone it says legacy of love or whatever, something in the love realm versus the they all they care about was money. Well, thank you all for joining us for another episode of Yahweh's money. We hope you have a wonderful day. A big thank you for listening to this episode. We hope you found today's chat about the intersection of religion and money insightful. We would love to hear your feedback. Hit that subscribe button or follow the podcast and please feel free to leave us a review.

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Shay:

And remember it's always better Yahweh's way.

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