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Thursday Thoughts - AI

• Polly Warren

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On today’s Thursday's Thoughts, Lucy and I are talking about AI.

We chat about how we’re both using AI (specifically the free version of ChatGPT), and how we’re finding it useful in our businesses; we also share how we both use it like a virtual assistant, asking it to perform various tasks for us as we would if it was an actual assistant.

Whether you love it or hate it, AI is happening and we’re better off embracing it than getting left behind.

We hope you’ll find this conversation helpful in some way.

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Polly & Lucy x

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to Thursday Thoughts. Thursday Thoughts what on earth are they? I hear you ask. Well, my friend Lucy and I meet every week over on Instagram to talk all things personal growth, because she is as obsessed with it as I am, and we decided that we might as well put those conversations out as a weekly podcast. So now you can listen to us chat here on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or wherever you listen to your podcasts, and we'll be talking about topics such as spirituality, limiting beliefs, the ego imposter syndrome, gratitude, meditation, confidence and so much more. So, if you're ready, here we go.

Speaker 2:

So this morning shall I just say what we're talking about yes, go for it.

Speaker 2:

So we're talking about AI, and it's something that I've been thinking about, talking about just for the last couple of weeks, and we decided to do it this morning, and I think it's something that obviously we cannot avoid. It it is happening, it is taking over the freaking world, and if we don't keep up with it, then we're going to get left behind, and I think, for the likes of you and I, anyone who sort of anyone, particularly people, I think have their own business, or who want to potentially start their own business, who have a side hustle or anything like that, I think we are missing a trick if we're not using it, and it's something that I'm starting to use more, because I can see how it can just make my life so much easier and save me time and give me ideas. Um, so I thought we could talk about how you and I use it. So, yeah, so yeah, let's start.

Speaker 2:

Let's do that, because I'd be really interested to hear how you use it, yeah, so I'll tell you a little bit about how I use it. So, for starters, I started using it for things like Instagram captions. I find it really useful for ideas for Instagram reels. It can write you a little script, and actually, one thing that I've been doing literally over the last few days is what I've learned is that you have to use I'm talking about ChatGPT here right, the free version. That's all I've got. I don't pay for AI, I just use ChatGPT.

Speaker 2:

What I've learned is that you have to treat it like it is your virtual assistant. So literally pretend that there is somebody else, an actual human, on the other end of the screen and the, and, and if you, if you had an assistant, think about what you would want that assistant to do for you and literally tell them everything that you would tell an actual human being. Because the thing that I'm discovering about AI is that the more you put in like so many things in life, the more you get out. The more information that you can put in about yourself and your business and who you are and what you do and what you want, the better you are going to get out. Sorry, I'm just swiping something off my screen, um. So so, for example, the last few days, literally I did this on Friday for the first time. So I thought, right, I basically I spend, as you know, better than most. I spend far too much time working in my business and never working on it, because I never have fucking time to work on it and what I should be doing is prioritising working on it rather than in it. But I'm the only one currently who works in it, so I have no choice. But I was feeling really overwhelmed and like, oh my God, I just feel like I've just got so much to do and I just don't know. You know things that I know that I need to be working on. I'm just letting slide because I never have the time.

Speaker 2:

So I sat down and I wrote to chat GPT and, by the way, I always say hi, how are you doing? Um, you know, thanks so much for your help today. It's like I put little kind of human things, human touches, in there and I literally sat down and and one thing I'll add before I say this is that because I've been using it for a while now and I've told it all about my business, it has got to know me so it knows what I do, it knows who I am, it knows that I have a podcast, it knows I have a membership, it knows I've written a book, but it knows all the things. So the more again, the more information that you give it, the more it gets to know you and therefore, the more it can help you. Anyway, so I sat down and I wrote this massive long paragraph saying, basically you know the deal, you know this is what I do and I basically put in these are two of the main goals that I have for 2025. This is what I want to achieve by the end of 2025. I want this and I want this, and I need you to help me work out, break it down. How am I going to get there? So, and then I literally said at the moment, I'm spending all my time working in my business rather than on it. I need to focus. I need to start doing one little thing every single day that is working on my business.

Speaker 2:

And again, you know I was really clear about exactly what my vision is for the rest of this year. I put all the detail in and I just said I need you to come up with a plan for me. I need you to tell me what I need to do, how I need to do it. I need you to break it down into baby steps to do how I need to do it. I need you to break it down into baby steps. And it is actually incredible what it can do. And it just spat out this massive response with a whole like list of you know, okay, let's think about this and that, and it's so. I mean, you literally do end up feeling like you're talking to an actual human. It's quite freaky, um, and it basically came up with kind of a game plan and just to caveat this by saying obviously it is not perfect, it is not a human being, but it can be incredibly helpful with things like this. So if you treat it like a business coach, you treat it like an assistant, then it can really really help you.

Speaker 2:

And so what it did, it's like it broke. It broke everything down and and you know it sort of says yes, we can, we can absolutely make this happen. Here's what we need to do. Blah, blah, blah. And we had this whole back and forth conversation and broke it down into so. So basically, this week I've now got one thing that I'm going to do just a tiny little thing. He I think of him as a he I don't know why he has told me I need to have a CEO power hour every day, monday to Friday. And he's right. He's right and literally has broken it down. So now, monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday of this week, I'm going to have a CEO power hour and I'm going to do this little thing.

Speaker 2:

That is just moving me in the right direction and getting to where I want to go and also, I think, for anyone. I mean, the point is that it can be incredibly, incredibly helpful and I think it's really good for things like that. You know things like I've just talked about, to help you create a plan. You know action steps, all of those kinds of things, and I think if you're somebody who either has your own business or who wants to create one, or who wants to start a side hustle, you can literally sit down and say this is who I am, this is what I, this is what I do, this is what I want to do. I want to start a I don't know a coach, an online coaching business, whatever it is. You can literally go to free chat, gpt to help you start your own business, to help you just come up with the steps. So I think, in in. In that respect it is extremely helpful.

Speaker 2:

And things like going back to Instagram. So I might say I might go in there and go oh God, I can't think of anything to post on Instagram. I really need your help. I you know the last few posts have been about this, so I want something more like this Can you come up with five scripts for five different reels? I want them to be about a minute long, please script? You know, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it is just so unbelievably helpful for things like that. Also, what it's really good for is kicking off idea. I mean, one thing I will say is that it's never gonna, it's never gonna replace you. Obviously, you know it's never gonna be able to be you, and there's, there's, there's always gonna be certain things that we have to do, obviously, but it's really useful for things like I have sometimes asked it for ideas for mini-sodes, for example.

Speaker 2:

I do a mini-sode. I mean, I do three podcast episodes well, including this one every single week, and there are some days where I just think, oh, my fucking god, what the hell am I going to talk about. So I will again. I'll go in there and be like, hey, I need your help with my mini-sode. I cannot think of anything to write. I can't think of anything to any topic to talk about. Can you please give me some ideas? And then it will.

Speaker 2:

And I'll say can you give me 10 ideas for mini-sodes? And then it will spit out 10 ideas and then I'll go oh, I don't like that one, but I quite like that one. Can you sort of expand a bit on that one? And it gives you ideas. So it's a really brilliant starting point, for if you're staring at a blank screen, it's a really good starting point, just to give you ideas. So those are a couple of the ways that I am currently using it and I intend to start using it more and more and more, because when you're running your own business by yourself, with no help whatsoever, working seven days a week, as I am, um, you know you need to catch a break where you can. And again, like I said in the beginning, if we're not using it, we're being left behind, because you can bet your bottom dollar that everybody else is yeah. So that's my, that's what I think yeah, yeah, it's so interesting.

Speaker 1:

I've had so many conversations at home. I had it with with because I love I've really started to use it a lot more and really enjoy using it. And my son at university. He said I don't know how I would have kind of done anything without it. Now he uses it, but he uses a very different program to I how I use it. So he uses lots of formulas and coding and all this sort of stuff, which is absolutely amazing. My husband uses it a lot. I use it. So I think I was trying to think what, how do I use it? And actually it was so funny.

Speaker 1:

I actually put in this morning to chat gtp you know I'm talking to lucy on monday motivation because it knows that I knows that that's what I do about. About AI, what do you think? And actually start by acknowledging the elephant in the room AI can some sound intimidating, especially if you've grown up without it. You could say something like AI isn't some creepy robot uprising, it's more like a super smart assistant that you get to boss around, and I thought that was spot on because it is literally like having your own personal assistant, who you chat to, who you get ideas. Well, just as you said, you can really bounce ideas off.

Speaker 1:

For me, I think the first way I started to use it was in kind of polishing my writing. So I will always still write whatever I put out. So I'll just type it generally into chat GTP what I want to write in my voice terrible punctuation often I'll just type it in and then I'll just say can you just polish this? And that's the word I always use, and so what that? What chat GTP does then is just kind of create it into. Really, if a phrasing which I just haven't got the capacity to be able to do it makes it look like it is well, it's just writes in a really good way, but, importantly, using my voice, because I think that's the danger. If you don't put input in the way that you want the output, then there's a danger that can all sound very generic and very samey so what you put in is really, really important.

Speaker 1:

I only discovered not that long ago the memory button, so my memory button wasn't on in um the settings part of chat gtp so my so I hadn't programmed chat mine to to know who I was.

Speaker 1:

So I every time I put something in I would have to repeat I want it in like a chatty, friendly voice. I want you know I will. This is what I do and it hadn't really remembered so what you can do. If you go to the um up into it's on mine it's PO up at the top which is obviously for poly and there's um. It says a customized chat gtp. There's a setting there and you can click on that and in that oh actually that's not the bit in that bit you can actually program what you want. So there's like um, what should it call you? What do you? It tells you you have to, you can tell it what you want. So there's like um, what should it call you? What do you? It tells you you have to, you can tell it what you do, what traits you want chat gtb to have. So you save all of that and then I didn't know that ah, so I didn't know this either.

Speaker 1:

In settings is it in settings? No, it's not. Oh, in there's, there's in settings. And you go to personalization, there's a memory. It says memory and you can turn that on and then it will remember so many different conversations you've had with it and remember. So it knows that about my. You know everything about me, who my audience is, and so you can obviously also put input that and you can say to it please memorize that I am a breath coach, please memorize that I have a podcast called Metamorphosis, but actually those are settings which are really really helpful. So, yes, so go into that topic, can you see? So you go to customize your activity in the settings.

Speaker 2:

I'm on my phone at the moment so I can't, and you want to put the memory and you want to put the memory on and that has been a game changer.

Speaker 1:

So now, actually it's so funny when I write it, he or it, whatever what I call it responds. Like you know, because I put this morning I'm talking on Monday motivation with Lucy about AI what would you suggest I talk about? And he came back going oh, what a brilliant and juicy topic for Monday Motivation and it makes me laugh so much.

Speaker 1:

I know it really is like having a conversation with with somebody yeah, with a human and it and it really yeah, it's really really helpful and particularly, I think, when you're on your as you say, when you're on your own and you're trying to come up with ideas or you're trying to come up with a plan, it actually is a really great place to start. I think you don't want to become over reliant on it, because I still think there's it and people can feel the energy in words. So I think you know if you're just using it and as it is, then you're losing your, your kind of specialness, your uniqueness. So you've got to use it cleverly, I think. But it's the but. I think if you put your own words in and then get it to kind of using it about a bit, yeah, that's a really powerful way of doing it.

Speaker 2:

Um, that's so true, and yeah, go on, no, no, you go, you go, no you go.

Speaker 1:

Um, uh, the, what else was I going to say? Um, I can't remember what I was going to say next about it. Um, but, yeah, in terms of ideas, in terms of captions as well, yeah, for social media, I think it's really helpful, uh, but you can just ask it anything. You can ask anything. Oh, I was gonna say that's what I was gonna say.

Speaker 1:

What it's got so much better at, which it wasn't very good at to start with, is is kind of, actually, because you've got to be careful sometimes it makes stuff up. But what it's got a lot better on is that I use it a lot for, um proof, scientific research, studies, and it can. It will now reference a study so you can then go and look at. It's like right, give me the scientific evidence or research for this. So if I'm talking about breathwork, for example, I was like right, you've just told me that you know 50 of people who breathe in a certain way can reduce anxiety. I want all the evidence, the scientific studies which prove that, and I love that. So then then you can actually go and have a look in, and so I know that what I'm saying I've.

Speaker 1:

I am very, very finicky about this. I like to know that what I am saying, if it's something which is to do with health and wellness and it's a claim, that actually there is some sort of claim behind it, and that is great. And it wasn't particularly good at that, because I used to use a different site called um perplexity for a while, because that was very, very good at constantly referencing where it got its information from. Uh, particularly if you're kind of talking about studies and I know, for example, anybody who's writing a thesis or a dissertation or or and you have to reference everything a book, I suppose, lucy, you know you've got to reference everything actually that can be really really useful as well, yeah, no, I mean, it really is incredible.

Speaker 2:

And one thing you said there about I've used it for this too, where I've done, where I've written a text or whatever it is, whether it's a podcast script or an email or whatever and you can get it to, like you say, zhuzh it up and just also, sometimes, if I'm writing something I might want to I can be very waffly, as you probably know and you know repeat myself and all the rest of it, and I've got it to before basically tidy something up and kind of condense something, um, condense it down. So it is. It's really good for when, if you want something tidying up and, like you say, grammar and spelling and all of those kinds of things, I mean I'm pretty, I'm pretty, I feel like I'm pretty good at writing, so I don't I personally don't tend to use it so much for that, but you absolutely can. And speak of um captions for instagram, um, obviously, a caption can only be a certain length, so it's really useful. I've I've said to it before. You know, I need this to fit an instagram caption, um, and one thing, going back to what I was talking about at the very beginning, is that I think it's like you know. Again, just to stress, the more you put in, like if you just say I want you to write me blah, blah, blah, you know that's that's just gonna like you said, that is gonna get some generic crap. That is just really obviously written by chat gpt. You've got to put in as much you, you, you almost find that you are, you know you are writing as much as it's then spitting back out to you. But that is, that's a good thing, because the more you put in, the more that's like you say you've got to. You know, the more you put in that sounds like you, the more and ultimately, the more it gets to know you, the better it is at delivering things for you that are in your style, in your voice and all the rest of it. So, and, and you know, you could literally, um, you could literally get it to, and I'm at some point I'm going to create an online course. I've been thinking about this for ages. I haven't done it yet, I just haven't had the time. But you could literally say hi, chat GPT, I want to create an online course about breathwork and I want it to have six modules and I want each module to be blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever it is. And then please come up with a rough template of how each module could look. You know things like this, and it doesn't mean that chat GPT is going to write your entire course, but it's just it can. It can hone things and it can give you ideas and you can then develop those ideas. That is where it's so brilliant. Like I say, if I'm, we in fact we were doing, um, my, my other podcast, three single women.

Speaker 2:

We were doing a recording the other week and at the end of our recording we always record on a Monday afternoon actually and at the end of our recording we were like shit, what are we going to talk about next? And I went oh, hang on a minute, let me just ask ChatGPT. And I just said I have a second podcast I haven't told you about before. It's called Three Single Women. It's me and Rachel and Pip and we talk about blah blah, blah, blah, blah blah. We're just sat here trying to work out out like 10. Or I said, can you please give us 10 possible topics that we could talk about on our podcast? And it just spat out 10 topics and we kind of went and and one thing I will say is that sometimes what you get back is a load of shit and you would never use it and I've, and there are times when it's been absolute rubbish and I'm just like, oh, bloody hell.

Speaker 2:

Um, but more often than not, you'll find something, and in fact, we we ended up then deciding to do a couple of topics that chat GPT came up with for us. So it's things like that that is so incredibly useful. That's that's how I find it. It is a, it is a time saver, it is an ideas generator and it is someone to bat things about with and it is hilarious the way that it sounds like a human being, like it'll come back to me and be like yeah, oh, my god, you know, it's so great working with you. You're superstar, blah, blah, blah and all this kind of you know, all this stuff which is so cheesy and ridiculous, but actually it is. It's well, it's actually completely hilarious, apart from anything else, um, but yeah, I'm just trying to think. I'm just trying to think how else or what other kind of tips that I have I have to share. But I think I think the main thing that both of us have said and and when I I actually listen.

Speaker 2:

I've actually listened to a few podcasts on AI and on how to use it, because, again, people running businesses are using AI, the end they're all it. And so I've been making it. You know, making it my business to listen to some people talk about it and work out how I can best use it for my, for my business. And I'd never heard, I'd never thought of it before until I listened to this particular podcast episode. I'd never thought of it before in terms of being your assistant.

Speaker 2:

But if you're sat there thinking shit, I just don't know how to.

Speaker 2:

I want to use it, but I don't know how to use it, that really is the best way to think about it. The best way to frame chat, gpt or any kind of ai is to think if I had an assistant sitting here with me or on the other end of the computer, if I was emailing my assistant and I wanted them to do, what do I need this person to do for me? And that is what you've got to put in there. And then you write as much detail as you possibly can, as you would if it was an actual person on the other end of an email and you were saying to your PA this is what I need you to do, this is what I want it to be, this is what you know. This is what I'm going to do with it, and I need you to do this, this, this, this and this, yeah, so if you think about it like an assistant, that is the way to, that is the way to kind of have it in your mind.

Speaker 1:

I, I think yeah, and I I'm like you, I always talk to it very politely, I always say please, I always say thank you and I and I think that's just kind of you know, and I think the more that we can all treat it like that, then it's going to be more. I don't know, it's just, it just feels like a nice relationship. It's almost like you're building a relationship with it. You are.

Speaker 2:

You are yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly. So I think it's really important how you talk to it, rather than being really kind of demanding. But there's, I mean, I know that, I mean I there's a few people I know who have their own businesses, who have, and I this is the paid for version but you can actually, if you're working with a lot of clients and you are saying the same things again and again and again, you can actually program your own snap ttp in your voice so that someone else, one of your clients, can then write um, you know, ask it a question and it will come back as you, in your voice, giving your advice. So what you can do with this is going to be absolutely phenomenal, and some, a lot of coaches are now charging for that service. They're charging for people, their clients, to use their voice how I'm confused.

Speaker 2:

I don't understand. Am I being okay?

Speaker 1:

yes, so it's um.

Speaker 1:

You can pro it's a paid full version. I mean I don't know the ins and outs of it, but it's a you. You can program a like you, like a bot, part of chat, gtp, with all of the things that you would normally say. So I talk about certain ways of breathing, I talk about um, why breathing is important, whatever. So what? I would program it with all of the things which I repeat to clients day in, day out.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so I would program it with all of my my stuff in my voice, and so somebody can then go into my version. They'd have my link into my version and ask it a question and it would come back as me and they would get the. They would get that information. So, if you think about it, a lot of mark. It's brilliant for, like, marketing coaches. So they talk about um. I mean I think this is where it's been particularly start. You know lots of them are starting to use it. They just, they, just lots of people saying, right, how do I? This is my, this is my um landing page, um, how can I improve this, and so they would come. It would come back with their advice of how you would improve writing your landing page, for example.

Speaker 1:

So it's, it's bloody amazing but they can start to charge for that. You know, you can start to charge for that, that version of you, with your expertise, with your uniqueness, and does that make sense.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it does. I mean it is actually. I mean it is mind-blowing. I mean I don't even have the paid version, so god knows what you can do with it if you have the paid version. I mean, you know, it's incredible and fact. One thing that you've just reminded me of is that's a really good way to use it is to give it something to improve upon. I mean, I think we've kind of touched on this anyway, but there is a classic way of using it. You can put something into it and say make, literally, please, can you make this, please, can you make this script better, for example, and better, for example.

Speaker 2:

Um, and I was going to say something else, which I've completely forgotten what it is, but one one, one thing that it was shit with for me the other day is that it it basically it claimed that it could, um, create a pdf, right. So we were going back and forth about this pdf that I wanted to create, or rather, I have already created, but I wanted to make it better. This pdf that I wanted to create, or rather I have already created, but I wanted to make it better, and he, she it was like yes, I can totally do this and I'm gonna do it this and and would you like it in this kind of style, or this kind of style and this kind of voice, or this kind of voice. And I was getting all excited, thinking, fucking hell, it's gonna come up with a freaking, it's gonna send me a. Basically, it said it was gonna send, send me a Canva link. I was like, oh my God, this is incredible. It's going to send me, it's going to create this, this amazing Canva thing, and you know, send, send it to me.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, long story short, the next two days I ended up wanting to tear my hair out because it supposedly created this PDF, sent me the link and it said page not found. And basically we went back and forth, back and forth, me, me getting less, me sort of losing my patience, more and more and more. It was like, oh, I'll try it this way, this is definitely going to work. I'm so sorry for wasting your time. Oh my God, it's no. No wonder you're feeling annoyed. I'm so sorry, I feel so bad. You don't deserve this and I promise you the next time it's going to work.

Speaker 2:

And anyway, the long and short of it was that it didn't bloody work and it didn't and and it didn't, um, all the. So it kept sending me, um, you know, links to click, and none of the links were clickable. And then it said okay, I've got another idea. Um, I'm going to send you a wee transfer. I'm going to send you a wee transfer link instead. And hang on, there was it created. Basically, it created a Gmail address.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, the long and short of it. The long and short of it is that none of it worked, and I ended up getting incredibly frustrated. And then, in the end and this literally took place over two days, days, because, of course and I don't know exactly how this works, but with the free chat GPT, you only have a certain amount of I don't know whether it's a certain amount of characters, a certain amount of back and forth, I don't know, it seems to vary. But basically, over over the course of two days, we were in the middle of this very frustrating conversation where I wasn't getting what I'd asked for.

Speaker 2:

And then I get this message going your limit is, you know, has. You've run out of your limit. Now you have to wait till you know 1644 before it reboots, or whatever, which was really annoying. And then, ultimately, it said oh God, you know, for some reason, these, these Canva links are not working, so that was really irritating. So I don't know whether, had I had the paid version, it would have been able to literally create a Canva link. Can you imagine if you could say I want you to create a PDF for a lead magnet to do talking about this? I mean, I don't know, have you ever had anything like that?

Speaker 1:

no, I've not done anything like that, um, no, I haven't. So, yeah, but I'm sure it will be able to at some point. I mean at some point. I mean Giles has been saying this to me for a long time because he does a lot of a lot. A lot of his job is is research and he about lots of different things and he has been and he's been doing a lot of stuff with, um, yeah, lots of ai stuff.

Speaker 1:

He's been saying for ages, for actually for years oh, one day we'll all just have our own personal assistant. Like we'll just be able to say, oh, can you? So like, it's like having your own butler, can you just put me a restaurant? Um, I want to eat Italian, can you? You know, just, basically, you could. It will just know you so well that it's literally having someone that, oh, can you just create me this pdf? I and you know blah, blah, and it will be done and everything's linked together.

Speaker 1:

And actually I always used to go don't be ridiculous, no, that's never going to happen. And now I totally can see that happening. It's going to happen because it is like having this personal assistant who can do everything for you. Um, and you know, I know a lot of people have a lot of fear about it, of course, about AI taking over the world, but I think actually, if we look at it from the lens of it's what you input into it and you just got to hope and pray and trust that. You know, if you all treat it really well, it's going to just be an amazing.

Speaker 2:

It's going to take away a lot of the faff in the world and just free up a lot more of our time to to just be and do nice things hopefully, yeah, and also I think and I totally get the fear, and you know there's a part of me also that you know there's a part of me that really doesn't like it at all and just thinks Jesus Christ, what is happening?

Speaker 2:

You know this is just so frightening, but actually it's happening. So we can either shy away from it or we can embrace it, like everyone is going to eventually. So we might as well start embracing it now. So I think you know, if you're one of those people who's like no, I will not use it which I definitely was for ages I was like nope, I'm not going to use it, um, and I and I know a couple of people like that but ultimately, especially when it comes to business, you know you are going to get left behind if every other business owner is, you know, has got their entire teams using chat, gpt, which they have. You know, like I follow people, I listen to people's podcasts and I know they are using. They are using it a lot and all of their team members are using it a lot.

Speaker 1:

So and let's not forget, there's also ai, let's forget. I know we're at time, but in so many other ways as well. So, for example, I wear this woot band which records lots of like data. I don't. I mean, I don't know if I love it. I don't know I love, I have a love hate relationship with it. But AI will tell me oh, rightfully, today you should, you should rest, because because yesterday you did this run, today you should take it easy. This stat was slightly higher. So it's kind of telling me all these things which actually sometimes can be really bloody helpful and kind of almost yeah, in terms of health, there's a lot of. You know, ultimately, nothing is better than listening to your own body, but sometimes a little bit of guidance can be a good thing. So I think you just have to take it, take what you will from it, but obviously always tuning back into you and your own voice, because nothing is ever going to be as good as that yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Well, we've gone two minutes over. God damn it. Who knew of all the things. Anyway, it's um, it's been a pleasure. Thanks anyone who has watched this or is listening to this on the podcast. Oh, we got a thumbs up. Thanks, whoever.

Speaker 1:

That was alright love, we'll have a good day. Yeah, you too bye.