The Ben & Jamesa Podcast: Conversations about Compassion, Curiosity, and Courage
🎙️ The Ben & Jamesa Podcast
Conversations about Compassion, Curiosity, and Courage.
Join Ben and Jamesa as they explore the experiences, perspectives, and challenges that shape who we are and how we relate to one another. Through personal stories, thoughtful dialogue, and practical ideas, each episode invites you to notice difference, embrace complexity, and build deeper, more inclusive connections — all with warmth, humor, and heart. Start with Episode 163, the first episode in season 10!
The Ben & Jamesa Podcast: Conversations about Compassion, Curiosity, and Courage
Ep. 133: Travelling Outside Your Comfort Zone
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In this episode, we explore what it really means to step outside your comfort zone—whether that’s moving across the world, engaging with unfamiliar identities, or sitting with uncomfortable truths about privilege and power.
We kick things off with Jamesa’s personal journey into expat life and her new focus on coaching individuals and families through the emotional and identity-shifting realities of living abroad. From there, we dive into the deeper discomfort many people—especially those with dominant identities—avoid: confronting the ways they’ve been shielded from discomfort through systems of power.
We unpack how intersectionality shapes who gets to stay comfortable, who doesn't, and why leaving your comfort zone is essential for personal growth and collective liberation. We also reflect on recent headlines that show what happens when people resist change, and we answer a listener question on neurodivergence, accountability, and doing “white people work” without shutting down.