
The Ben & Jamesa Podcast: Conversations About Community
Welcome to The Ben & Jamesa Podcast, where we explore conversations about community.
In each episode we challenge each other, and you the listener, to unlearn old patterns and build more compassionate, authentic connections in every area of life.
If you're new here, start with episode #137, “Start Here,” for an overview of our work and podcast. After that, dive into any episode that resonates with you as we break down how to move from control to genuine connection.
The Ben & Jamesa Podcast: Conversations About Community
Ep. 137: Start With This Episode (and Black Fatigue)
If you’ve ever wondered where to begin with this podcast, this is the one. In our season 9 opener, we bring you into the heart of our work: building a community rooted in letting go of control and choosing connection.
We explore the recent Portuguese elections—how voting works here, what’s at stake, and how it all contrasts with the U.S. political system.
Then we dig into something heavier: Black Fatigue. A term originally created to describe the long-term physical and emotional toll of racism on Black people, now being twisted by some white folks to describe their own weariness with conversations about race. We unpack the irony, the harm, and the deeper truths behind that reaction.
And as always, we’ll mix in some recent happenings from our family life, a thoughtful listener letter, and Ben’s ongoing irritation with foot-specific socks.
Join us for another conversation about meaningful connection.