The Ben & Jamesa Podcast: Conversations about Compassion, Curiosity, and Courage
🎙️ The Ben & Jamesa Podcast
Conversations about Compassion, Curiosity, and Courage.
Join Ben and Jamesa as they explore the experiences, perspectives, and challenges that shape who we are and how we relate to one another. Through personal stories, thoughtful dialogue, and practical ideas, each episode invites you to notice difference, embrace complexity, and build deeper, more inclusive connections — all with warmth, humor, and heart. Start with Episode 163, the first episode in season 10!
The Ben & Jamesa Podcast: Conversations about Compassion, Curiosity, and Courage
Ep. 138: Do White People Hate Racism Enough?
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We hear it all the time: “Of course I hate racism.”
But when we start looking a little deeper — into silence, avoidance, who we protect, and what we’re willing to give up — the picture gets murkier.
In this episode, we’re talking honestly about the gap between intention and impact when it comes to anti-racism. We get into:
- Why it’s easier to say the right thing than to live differently
- How control, comfort, and avoidance keep racism alive
- What the recent Google discrimination lawsuit tells us about what’s still happening across workplaces — big and small
- And why not being racist is nowhere near enough
This isn’t about guilt or performance. It’s about getting honest, choosing discomfort, and doing something real with the privilege we’ve got.
Let’s get into it.
