Discovering The Transformational Power of Living In A Fifth-Dimensional Reality

Ever wondered how the alignment of celestial bodies could catalyse a shift in your personal growth and collective consciousness?
Nadine and Laverne Proctor from Chiron Spectra explore this cosmic question with a focus on Chiron in Aries, preparing you for an anticipated profound shift in 2024.
Our discussion takes you through the transformative power of self-care and growth, emphasising the significance of revisiting these topics to deepen your understanding and resonance with them.
Let's traverse the mystical path together, as we uncover the necessary steps towards evolving in harmony with the universe.

Join us on a voyage beyond the tangible, into a reality where the heart chakra and crystalline anatomical structures signify our ascension to the fifth dimension.
We've all made this shift, guided by our higher selves, and it's time to understand how this affects us on an individual level. Our dialogue illuminates historical prophecies, the energetic ley lines of our planet, and the evolutionary trajectory that has brought us to this point.
As we invite you into this conversation, we hope to inspire your personal journey of vibrational uplifting and alignment with a higher state of being.

This episode isn't just about high concepts; it's about the practical integration of fifth-dimensional consciousness into your everyday life. Discover the alchemy of self-healing through acceptance, trust in your instincts, and the recognition of synchronicities that map the course of your personal evolution. We share tangible tools, like heart-centered communication and specific meditations, to assist in creating a new reality that's in tune with your highest good.
Let's embrace change together, fostering a heart-led community where empathy, compassion, and a deeper connection with our higher selves become the pillars of our existence.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Hello, hello, it's Nadine here and I'm here with this week's episode of Life, health and the Universe, and it's the third Friday of the month. So we are diving back into our series, guide to Universal Living, where I'm joined in my collaboration with Laverne Proctor Hello, laverne, laverne from Karel's Picture. So this is part two of our Guide to Universal Living series. Now, if you haven't listened to part one, go back and check it out. You can easily find it on the podcast platforms because the icon is purple. I would recommend actually going back and re-listening, if you even have listened to it, because there's going to be nuggets that sometimes they don't kind of make sense and the more you listen, the more you think about it, the more they kind of resonate or start to, you know, make a bit more sense. So quick recap.

Speaker 1: 1:02

Part one was about Chiron in Aries and what that means for us, I think, individually and globally, in 2024. There's lots of changes happening and you may or may not have heard or seen other people posting. I have seen a lot of people posting saying 2024 is going to be big. There's massive shifts in our collective consciousness, shall we say, and there's going to be changes on an individual level. So when we were talking about Chiron in Aries, laverne was talking about ways that we can support ourselves to move through this process confidently and, I guess, with some care, self-care, right and understanding. So go back and check it out, even if you have listened to it, but definitely if you haven't. Secondly, we wanted to give a shout out and I might hand over to you, laverne, to mention this to the music that you used in the meditation that we included in part one, because the musician who allowed us to use the music for free mentioned that he hasn't really been getting any sales from his music since, you know, there's been more digital availability. So we thought it would be really great to give him a shout out, and if you guys could check him out, that would be great. So, laverne, do you want to just give us some details on that music that you used? Yeah, look, I'm really glad that you suggested this.

Speaker 1: 2:50

Andrew Forrest, I don't know personally, but I've had a few interactions with him and he has been extremely gracious, allowing me to work with his music, and particularly the last meditation was from the CD Essence. Giving him a shout out is to remind people that there is some phenomenally amazing high frequency music out there, and Andrew Forrest's creative sound music that he's created is just something I think people should look out for. Go and check out. We have left a link, and will continue to leave a link, to his website, so I would check out his music. He's the most phenomenal creative musician and I love working with his music because it really supports me when I create meditation. So thanks, nadine, for raising this Great. And I think the link is through Bandcamp and I believe that if you purchase music through Bandcamp, when you are going to a specific artist, you can donate as much or as little as you can afford. So that's going to really help an artist who's put this amazing time and effort into creating some beautiful music as a recognition for his contribution.

Speaker 1: 4:12

Another thing that came up for me, laverne, was how can our listeners connect with you if they've got questions about the things that you're talking about on the podcast? Is there anywhere that you would prefer them to go? Look, there's two areas. I mean, basically I have a Chiron Spectra Facebook, but if people so basically we'll have the Chiron Spectra link in the show notes. But also I have a website presence and if you go to the homepage you can click on a link and leave questions. That way you can connect and we can have a verbal conversation, which is often far more powerful because you can cover so much more, and different questions pop up when someone's asking questions and it takes them full circle of something they're trying to get clear on. So obviously, the Chiron Spectra website is another good vehicle to connect with me to ask questions. Great, perfect. So, as you said, we'll put those links in the show notes as well, right? So I'm going to ask you one thing. Let's just brief the listeners. So last time, we kind of we're playing around with the structure of the episodes and how we yeah, last, okay, breathe, nadine, take a moment. It's a bit like that today. It's a bit like that today. If we're feeling that way, everyone else will. So dear they're the being for today, yes, so take a moment.

Speaker 1: 6:01

Last time Laverne talked about Chiron in Aries and then at the end I didn't have any prep time leading into it and then at the end I asked questions and kind of we debriefed on what she had shared with us. This see, at this session we're going to have a bit more interaction, so I'm probably going to ask questions partway through, just digging around a little bit, but my first question, before we even started, is well, does this directly link as a step from episode or, sorry, part one? So do we go, all right, you've got this kind of Chiron in Aries stuff, now let's break it down, or is it something completely different? Or yeah, it's just a question, because when I was guided to come up with this topic and cover this topic, chiron and Chiron Aries was definitely not at the forefront of my mind and as I was just writing my notes, trying to get clear, what am I going to talk about? What am I going to communicate? Chiron definitely features in the later part of this discussion.

Speaker 1: 7:24

Okay, so there's two parts that you know to this. So part one we talked about Chiron in general and then we honed in on Chiron Aries, because Chiron Aries is transiting the globe as we speak and is continuing to over 2026. So it's so as a point in our conversation. You'll notice that I will introduce Chiron. I'll touch on it. Depending on how I feel, I might just link back into that part one on just a bit more of a summary. But if there's a relevance to Chiron generally in 2024, and there's absolutely relevance of what I'm going to be talking to today. Cool, brilliant, all right, very good question.

Speaker 1: 8:12

Well, I think I, like I said to you before we hit record, that some of this stuff maybe some of our listeners haven't had a great deal of exposure to and maybe some of them are totally into it. So it might make more sense for one person compared to the other, and that's one of the reasons that I think you know I said go back and listen again. But yeah, it could be a lot. Right, there's a lot. We're in such a complex dance in evolution.

Speaker 1: 8:45

I'm trying to chunk down and put almost a fence around some of my topics and not go off on tangents too much, because I will be covering aspects of something I might touch on I'll be covering on another level at some point in the future. So I'm trying to fence in slightly. Yeah, because some of our listeners will be very up to speed with some of the stuff I'm talking about. So why don't you cover that? Why don't you come from that angle? So, yeah, yeah, I think quite consciously conscious, and what I'm covering, just to you know, put a fence around quite consciously conscious when talking about consciousness. Correct, yeah, exactly, okay, cool, all right.

Speaker 1: 9:30

Well, well, shall we go? Let's go. I want to know what your. What's the topic? All Nadine knows is that the topic title today is living off fifth dimensional reality. That's all the dean knows about today. Yeah, what was interesting? The things that should I go away and do some research? I said, if you feel like going away and do some research, that's your choice.

Speaker 1: 9:55

So let me just begin by saying we are now living in the fifth dimension and as we awaken to fifth dimensional consciousness, we are learning to live more from our heart, work more through intuition versus our head and become masters of our own reality. So really, in essence, creating a world for ourselves that reflects the beauty of our highest self so the higher self will be a key thing for today and how we can start really living on another level of fifth dimensional reality. So I felt really guided to cover this now, because how to consciously live our fifth dimensional reality as we move through 2024 is going to be a big year of change and transformation right. So the more we understand why being on Earth right now is a crucial time in humanities and the Earth's ascension, and why it's important to support our awakening process for ourselves and being part of a global community, the more we will find we can navigate through 2024 with greater understanding. And with the greater understanding, sorry hopefully we can do it with more ease and not only navigating 2024 with more ease, just seizing the opportunities that will be available to us and to create positive changes in our lives. Right, because it is going to be a big year and you can either go down the path of struggle and make it as hard as possible or you can really seize the opportunity to create positive changes. So the more we understand the bigger picture I don't know from my mind it's easier to make a sense of everything that's playing out. So, whether it's what's playing out in ourselves, what's playing out in our environment, and the more we can let go let go generally, let go of control, let go of old strategies, let go of fear the more we can go with the flow and the synchronistic changes that are occurring and we can create a sense of freedom through that process for ourselves. So the more we can open ourselves up to receive and receive clarity, receive support, the more we can heal, the more we can feel love in ourselves and love for others and the more we can move through something that could be quite significant going on in our lives right now and do it with more ease and grace, so just creating more of a sense of positive part of ourselves coming alive, basically as we let go of the old.

Speaker 1: 13:26

So there's three things that were coming up for me when I was thinking about this topic generally and it makes sense to give a bit of background about, well, how do we arrive in the fifth dimension, and we've done it in recent years. So I'm aiming to give listeners a high level imprint of this and hopefully leaving people more curious to learn more. Go away, learn more if they have questions, that can come and ask me and so forth but be curious about really what's going on in themselves, what's going on with the planet. And on a practical level, I'd really like to talk about what does living a fifth dimension reality really look like and how do we create that. And, third, basically provide some tips. So today it's more about tips versus techniques, versus procedures that the listener can adopt to support their integration into the fifth dimensional reality. And, as Nadine has mentioned, we do a bonus meditation and that meditation is uploaded separately so people can listen to that and go to that directly. And so there will be a meditation that's really designed to really help the listener tap into that fifth dimensional consciousness reality and get an imprint on it through a meditation. So that will be the intention of that meditation.

Speaker 1: 15:12

Cool, so the first place to start. Bit of background, I think. Yes, there will be people out there that may not be aware. Yeah, I did do some research as well, and I'm not going to spill the beans on what the fifth dimension is. I'm going to let you do that. Well, but I did some research and I found this one video that broke it down really well. I just want to, I just want to like is preface the right word? Yeah, this part of the conversation for people who are like they're talking a lot of shit. It's actually proven. Science has proven right that there are 11 dimensions, apparently. Now this guy that I watched took us to the fifth and he was like it just gets like even more. So we're not out there because we're not used to it. We're used to being in the third and fourth, right. But yeah, that's so. I'm just prefacing. This is real stuff. It's new. It's new for a lot of people, but it is not made up by some hippies, although they may have been onto it before along with other people. And so no pressure on the burning, succinctly describing what the fifth dimension is and how we got there. But no, so that's done a bit of an investigation, because what will be really important? I'm so ingrained and I live in this bubble.

Speaker 1: 16:51

If, as I describe this and you know, at the end you might say and you know there might be something you want to add to that from your perspective, because you know, sometimes when you're living in something, it's hard to break it down because it's a more natural state of being. So, yeah, that would be like me training someone and talking about all the muscles, like in their full form, right, like quadratus lumborums doing, you know, anterior blah, blah. Like you just don't. Yeah, you live it, you have to kind of, and so then you have to sort of distill, translate it, yeah. So bear with me. And you know, if you feel there was something, a golden nugget that you heard somewhere else, add this in, because that's the value that you bring to the table. So look, just as a bit of background.

Speaker 1: 17:50

So we are at a vital time of human evolution and we are transitioning to a new way of living and being within this fifth dimension. So we've effectively transitioned from the third dimension to the fifth dimension, and this transition essentially occurred over a 12 year period. Through cosmic activations during and during this period it allowed the human body to alchemically heal enough to shift into a fifth dimensional anatomy. Okay, so what that anatomy has looks like? It was more carbon based and we went through a massive release process and now it's more crystalline, more, and it's lighter and that's going to continue to evolve. That body or anatomy is continuing to evolve. So that's what was happening on a on a body level. But so those are.

Speaker 1: 18:58

Fifth dimension has now anchored. It is still continuously evolving, co-creating changes necessary for humanity to live within a higher vibration. So as we lift our vibration, we are activating new levels of consciousness by way of our heart chakra, and this is the key shift. So, and as we do this, individually and collectively, the heart of humanity is lifting in consciousness so that they, we can continue to evolve with the earth. So as the earth continues to shift and change, we too are how to shift and change, and the shift is a shift in frequency and is supporting us to live more from our heart center and creating changes in our blueprint and as it does so, we, humanity is awakening more to a higher state of consciousness. So, essentially, what happened was between 1999 and 2012,.

Speaker 1: 20:12

There were astrological events and activations in the cosmos and within what we call the global grid matrix, and this created a catalyst for the earth frequency changes. Now, this was always prophesied. The ancient Egyptians, the Mayans, the Native Americans and sages and similar were aware and predicted this time of great change and that it would come about and we would be participating in an upgrade to our evolutionary process. And that's what we're going through right now. 2024 is a particularly big catalyst year, but this decade is also a big catalyst decade.

Speaker 1: 21:07

So the global grid matrix that I've just referenced is the holographic energy system that actually sustains the earth and sustains all life, and so if you were to visualize what that looks like, what the global grid matrix looks like, it was best to visualize as like energetic lay lines, red lines of crystalline light that surround the earth and intersect specific points within and around the earth in cosmos. Now, these specific points referenced are known to be the connection points dispersing energy, creating the frequency changes in the earth, but most people are familiar on some level with lay lines or red lines, and also can identify that at certain points or these critical points around the globe are sacred sites, temples, places of healing, and they're located around the world at major grid points on the earth. So some of your listeners will be really familiar with that too. So if you imagine the global grid matrix as this global energy system, it actually plays a very significant role in the lifting of the earth's vibration and life as we know it. So between 1999 and 2012, this global grid matrix was activated, creating a vibrational shift from the third dimension. We stopped in the fourth dimensional frequency in a holding pattern between 1999 to 2012 for a brief period, so that all of humanity could adjust and make the necessary step, changes and shifts into the fifth dimensional frequency as we came into 2012. So everyone on the planet today has and could into the fifth dimension and, whether they know it or not, whether they know it or not and we'll talk further about the higher self, but everyone has a higher self and the higher self has supported them through that process and everyone on the earth made this shift. And as we continue forward, we are being impacted by the fifth dimensional grid as it continues to make the necessary changes. So our blueprint is changing and we are essentially being pushed to awaken and as humanity awakens, we are creating a shift in our body and consciousness to this higher vibration so that we can continue to evolve. So that was the major change. So that's it, yeah, I mean in a nutshell. In a nutshell, so you know, everyone on the planet today has anchored into the fifth dimension, even if they're playing at that third, more of a third dimensional consciousness.

Speaker 1: 24:29

So can I do a recap on this from a like what I learned about the fifth dimension, because it will be obvious to people when I talk about it. It can't you kind of go oh, connect the dots, dots, so two dimensions. Second, so there's 11 dimensions, right? So the second dimension basically, we can move forward or backwards. Things can move forward or backwards. In the third dimension, you can go forwards, backwards, up and down. No, first dimensions forward and backwards. Second dimension forward, backward, up and down. Third dimension is 3D as we know it. So it's it's forward, backwards, sideways or diagonally. Fourth dimension it's all of those things, but you add time. So, for example, it will take me 10 seconds to walk from here to my kitchen. So we've got time in the fourth dimension and you know, you could look at that from a point of view of like when I grow up in you know, 15 years time, I'm going to be this when I grow up. So that's kind of like how we generally work right With our lives. We work in the fourth dimension, we plan and we and so on and so forth.

Speaker 1: 25:56

Fifth dimension now, this is the quantum field, the quantum realm, which has been proven. In the fifth dimension, infinite possibilities exist. We tap into one of those possibilities which becomes our reality. However, we actually have access to those infinite possibilities and those infinite possibilities are through energy, right, and it's the energetic field. And they've proven that we are basically trillions and trillions of particles that are attracted to each other to make a human, so that's, and they vibrate, as you said, they vibrate together to make a person or an object or whatever it is. I think this is I'm kind of getting this right. So when we talk about that fifth dimension where infinite possibilities are available to us, you can start to understand how. And our brains we use 5% of our brains in the fourth dimension.

Speaker 1: 27:20

So this is about learning how to tap into that higher vibration which makes sense in the fifth dimension, where we are more energetic and less physical being. Would that be right? Yeah, and some of those things that we can do are the things that you're going to talk about, like how we access that. Yes, yeah, yeah, and it's through this important vibrational shift that we are now able to ascend with the Earth on a whole other level, an access, knowledge, information, frequencies that up until this point we weren't able to access. I feel like the whole human evolution to this point has been to discover this point. Yes, when you mentioned 1999, like when you look historically about how much we've evolved in the last 25 years when it comes to technology, how we can connect with each other, how we travel, like all of this stuff, it's almost like that's taken us a massive leap. But we've been trying to figure this stuff out, generation by generation, eons and eons, to get to this point.

Speaker 1: 28:56

Yes, and now that we've made the shift into the fifth dimension, we can anchor more of our higher self, which we'll be talking more about shortly, and ultimately, which is you're sort of touching on it coexist within higher levels existence and consciousness and realms and multi-universes. This is where we're heading. It's not me to say everyone will wake up tomorrow and suddenly they're interdimensionally connecting with. What I'm suggesting is we now have the capacity within us that enables us that. The more we work in the ways that I'm going to be talking about today and over the coming months, the more we work with that, the more we open up to that, the more we can access. So what does it really mean? What does the fifth dimension reality really mean to us right now and why is it important to us and humanity overall?

Speaker 1: 30:00

Well, during the transition from 1999 and 2012, we were anchoring our light bodies Now this is a term that some will not have come across and our light body is a higher energetic system or body that supports our abilities to sustain higher frequencies, higher elements, and so that we can make the necessary alchemical changes now so that we can access and work from a higher level of consciousness as we move forward and work on ourselves. So, thinking back into some of the statements you've made, so we're not going to go into a lot of detail about light body today, but it is an energetic part of the system that we've anchored and it's supporting us to be able to do what we need to do to continue to evolve and I think, ok. So when we talk about evolution because I think also we have this idea of what evolution is in, like general, you know, general everyday life if we're not into what we're talking about For evolution could be like you know, we're so much more evolved now because we have houses and knives and forks compared to the, you know but we're talking about something that's not the same as what we're experiencing right now. Today, when we talk about evolution of and that's what I'm going to be covering to which you know, I'm not going to say, with the definition of evolution in my concepts, this, no, what you'll come to see, what I'm describing and the things that we touch on are exactly this evolutionary process, right? So the light body is anchored and we've begun the next phase of our human evolution.

Speaker 1: 31:59

Dare, I use that term. It's used a lot, so forgive me and we are, you could say ascension, right, because that's another well, ascension, that's being used quite a lot, but I mean, we are in the process, though you know, you can't change. Like not many people are talking about ascension outside of these circles. I wouldn't reckon. Maybe I'm working in different circles, yeah, you know. So ascension to me is like a normal day, you know. So this is what I mean. I'm trying to ground some concepts. That for me, is very normal, you know some normal part of my consciousness and day to day life and I'm just trying to normalize and ground stuff.

Speaker 1: 32:45

So in doing that, basically we're really on a on a journey to learn how to work with energy and, specifically, alchemy. We're on a journey now to how do we create alchemy within our body and we're on a journey about our ability to access and support our light body as it continues to integrate. Now that's more of a fifth dimensional statement, so I'm breaking a break that down on another level in a minute. So why is this important? Why is it important to learn about alchemy? Why is it important to perhaps start consciously working alchemically with ourselves? So basically, we're learning to master wellness, learning to self heal naturally and, you know, ultimately be able to self heal in the moment and we're also learning to create a higher reality here on Earth, basically our heaven on Earth. We're participating in the building of the next golden age and co-creating our own golden age. We're definitely not going to go there today, because that's a topic.

Speaker 1: 34:07

So we're awakening new levels of understanding higher states of consciousness and seeing things. We're going to start seeing things if we're not already in a whole new way and building knowledge and personal empowerment, mastering circumstances playing out in our lives and living the way we want to experience it. You know, co-creating our higher reality, to be honest. So these are our next steps in our evolutionary process and the path to our continued ascension. So, with the ability to access higher vibrations, higher frequencies, touching the point that you've made, we will be able to access realities, other dimensions and parallel universes. Right, there's people already doing it. Right, and there are plenty of people on the planet today doing it. So why is this important? To be conscious of this new reality that's forming what would be practical approach to support our integration and live a fifth dimensional reality.

Speaker 1: 35:23

So, if you look at your own life and you see what was playing out in your life, we are being encouraged more than ever to clear negative, patting, painful issues, understand on a deep level what's going on for us and connect more with the self, going inward and observing more. How are we feeling? What are our thoughts and thought patterns? Are we feeling our limitations and can we find a way to work through those limitations, are we feeling restricted in ourselves and through the way we think, and are we missing opportunities that would actually serve us because of the way we think and feel? So, basically, we're being challenged to clear negative patterns that hold us in the lower vibration and a more of a third dimensional level of consciousness right. So we may find changes are coming up within us, internally or around us, creating circumstances or catalysts playing out in our life to make a shift, and we're making a shift from an old way of being into a new way of being. So we are being encouraged to feel what we need to feel and dismantle old perceptions, understandings, ways of doing things if those things are no longer serving us. We're also we'll find ourselves in situations to resolve something or many things and reset ourselves and create a new beginning almost, and come more from a state of working with our intuition.

Speaker 1: 37:25

So I would say to listeners if something is coming up and you've been ignoring it, can you give an example? That's a good question. Let me think. Have you had anything? Let me think about that, okay, sorry, okay, so hold that thought. Let me think about that, because that's a very good question. If something's coming up, yeah, let me go with the flow of what I'm saying. Sorry, sorry, something may trigger as we're talking. So if something's coming up and we're ignoring it that we need to look at, the universe will send something our way right and that what will happen is that we will. It'll be a catalyst of some shape or form, it will be a circumstance and whatever it is that we need to work through will be challenged and the more we're challenged, the more we can work with that and work through whatever that is for us. We can heal and grow and make the necessary shifts.

Speaker 1: 38:39

So this is a time where people might find things are coming up. So we either come into alignment and continue to align with the earth and the earth changes, and the types of things we can do to support that process today is just be open, open our awareness and start responding to life more consciously. Being more consciously conscious, really trusting instinctually what feels right for us and acting on our intuition. More than ever would be enforced for us right now Working in, responding from our heart rather than ahead, working on ourselves. Basically so many people I speak to doing so many self help type courses because they really want to work through old patterning or something that's really not serving them. And so, you know, a lot of people are consciously reaching out to find ways to support themselves and clear whatever's going on for them. So recognizing our triggers also, and working through them by going inward rather than projecting out, would be really critical at this time.

Speaker 1: 40:09

So, if you're finding that you know you're really struggling with something and you're really being pushed, really go inward and try and work out. What does this really mean for me? Okay, and I think the other thing that really supporting, you know, integrating a fifth dimensional consciousness and way of being is you really have to, we really need. It's a time where we really need to be gentle with ourselves, because a lot will be coming up. So we really need to soften and have a softness not only towards ourselves but for everyone around us. And really being gentle on ourselves this year, will, you know, because there will be a lot of dynamics that play out through the year and remember that we're on this journey together. So, rather than seeking conflict because we might see quite a lot of conflict playing out around us, you know, can be small conflict or big conflict around the world Really being honest with ourselves and being vulnerable and being gentle on ourselves is something that we and there's something we need to change within us really coming from that space rather than externalizing. So just really watch.

Speaker 1: 41:33

I guess what I'm saying is watch what, what, what is coming up for you and just really sit with it as much as possible and work through it. And by doing these things, when we do these things, when we go inward, what we're setting the intention of is shifting our mindset around something. We're starting to see ourselves and our environment and you know what we create through our own consciousness and the way we run our energy. And you know we, when we can shift through that and work through that, we start to see the world through a different lens. And when we start to see the world through a different lens and see ourselves differently, you know we're really supporting the lifting of our vibration and we're creating more of a natural expansion in our consciousness and we're integrating that fifth dimensional frequencies, reality, consciousness, call it whatever you want and living more from an elevated state of being right. So the types of things I'm talking about, if we just do these things, we are supporting our integration into the fifth dimension, okay, and we will find that we start living more universally, okay, and more in a community state of mind living, and, you know, heart consciousness.

Speaker 1: 43:03

So these are the types of things that we can be working with and when we feel that we're anchoring more in that fifth dimension, you know, as I said, you start to see the world differently. We're consciously more productively starting to support our ascension process and as we support our ascension process, we will find things flow more. You know we move through life with more ease and grace. Now, that's got to be a benefit in itself, you know, let alone all the other benefits that we're creating. So in this reality of the fifth dimensional way of being, we can start seeing new possibilities. You know we can be thinking outside the box more. We're thinking out the square. You know paradigm thinking. You're sort of talking to that in a different way. Problem solving you know solving problems differently. You know we start to see ourselves in the world and question more about well, what am I capable of achieving, breaking down old limitations, you know, and what can I create related to whether it's related to my health, wellbeing, home environment, work how can I tap into my natural creativity and use it in my field work? So these are the practical symptoms on the not so good side and the outcome of what we can create by co-creating a reality, our reality, the way we want to experience life is what really fifth dimensional way of being is on the most fundamental level for most of us, how we can really start consciously working in a different way.

Speaker 1: 45:02

You know and you know my advice to people is if you've never had energy run on you, you know we are. You know we are on a journey, consciously or unconsciously, alchemically shifting and changing so our highest sulfur absorbing, even if we're not consciously aware what's happening. When I do this and make this shift in a pattern of behavior, what does that create alchemically in the body? Our highest self is conscious of that and is taking that learning, even if we aren't working in that way. But I would, you know, I would throw it the gauntlet to people and say we are energy and consciousness and mass. So when you start to look at yourself in that way, well, you might say, well, I might give you know an energy experience you know, session ago. Or I might learn to run energy on myself so I can support myself and be feeling power to sort support myself on that level. So I just want to finish this by saying the emphasis will be in 2024 being definitely gentle on ourselves, working through internal struggle or something playing out in our life, and chipping. Just keep chipping away, right, because the universe and your highest offer pushing you to evolve and shift, shift.

Speaker 1: 46:30

I talked about mindsets. You know 2024 is a lot of around mindset changes. So, as things come up, look at them and, you know, look at how you might approach something that's coming up in your life and working differently to support yourself. Okay, there would be one thing, because we will all be pushed, okay, and doing this will create, definitely if you're not already working this way a real big turning point, not only the way we perceive ourselves, our life, our understanding. It will support how our healing, our natural healing process, it will support our ascension journey and you will absolutely start birthing a whole new sense of self in a higher vibration. So letting go of the old version of self and creating a shift in our perception and understanding and consciousness is going to be a key thing this year. So through the higher you know, through a higher vibration, we naturally come into our heart center. We start thinking and feeling differently, not only about ourselves, our environment, the world, you know, as it's up front, you know, becoming more universal. So the circumstances that we may find ourselves in will be compelling us to let go of old strategies, old beliefs, thoughts, feelings that no longer serve us and aren't supporting our ability to move into a higher vibration. And we will be given signs and this will be something you know. This will this part will really ring true for you, because I've seen you make your evolutionary changes.

Speaker 1: 48:34

We are given signs in our lives when it's time to make a change. Yeah, totally, you've been through that. Most people are familiar with this understanding. So, if we can see the signs, trust in our inner guidance and make the necessary changes whether it's in ourselves, our environment, a key decision point in our lives and move with those changes that come about through the way you know, maybe with the way we feel about something, it could be through circumstances that instigate that change or, you know, it could be an obstacle that's placed in front of us to make us stop in our tracks. That requires us to reflect and go inward, you know. You know situations or experiences that arise to compel us to make a change. These are the signs that are there to support us to move forward and, in a way, for our highest good, so that we can continue to integrate into that higher vibration. We have to trust those signs and you know of all people in the team, this should really resonate with you. So you are actually a good example.

Speaker 1: 49:55

Let's turn that question back on you, right, because you have really paid attention to shifts and changes. I don't know if you want to quickly touch on that. Yeah, sure, well, I will definitely go back to that nagging thing that I've had up until a couple of years ago when I was drinking alcohol. Right, I want to stop, I want to stop, I want to stop. Yeah, keep trying, keep trying, keep trying, and it's like that last thing to tick off the list of being, you know, healthy to not drink alcohol. And eventually I, you know, I found a book, someone recommended a book. I read the book, wasn't expecting to stop, but managed to stop, and I haven't had alcohol for two years.

Speaker 1: 50:51

But what started to unfold was all of this deep. I'm going to call it trauma, you know, and I think that we need to probably. You know, trauma can be anything for anyone, right, you know, it was like I drink because it's I can hide behind that. If I do something wrong, I can. I can blame it on the drink. If I do something, for example and I think and this is one of the times I became really aware of it was when, like, I would post something on social media nothing bad, but then I'd be worried about what people would think. But that went away when I had a drink, right, I didn't didn't have to think those feelings of like, not being good enough, not being liked, yeah, so there was all of that stuff coming up. Anyway, it's led me on this massive journey over the last couple of years where I'm still uncovering these things.

Speaker 1: 51:53

But, as you said, you need to be compassionate with yourself, right, you need to like rather than go. Oh, you know I'm not good enough. Why do I feel that way? Where did that come from? And, like, have some self compassion about you know, that was something that happened to you when you were a child or you know, whatever it was, it was a protection mechanism.

Speaker 1: 52:16

So I think that, yeah, but though I guess so I guess that's in stages, right, that's that tap, something's tapping, tapping, tapping. You know you've got to sort this out, got to sort this out, and then it uncovered all this other stuff and I wasn't even aware of that, but it's led me through this journey and along that journey as well, I've become much more aware of that fifth dimension, you know that, accessing that part of me and that part of our coexistence, and it's like there's, you know, it's like scratching the surface because you think you're kind of like, oh okay, that makes sense now, but then something happens and you have to dig deeper. So you're and it is very, it feels very internalized, a lot of it. It's a lot of just, yeah, healing through your own exploration and self-compassion and understanding. But all of these words as well make so much more sense.

Speaker 1: 53:28

Like you know, I think self-heal has been around for so long, but it's like, what does that actually mean? And there are levels on it and it could mean different things for different people, but obviously, like with what you've been saying today, it makes more sense why we want to self-heal because it helps us to move beyond those things that keep us in the fourth dimension. Yeah, we're attached to our stories, we're attached to our traumas, we're attached to all of those things, but as we face them and we uncover them and we go back inside. We can heal them, we can process them and you don't let them go, but you accept them and evolve, as you said. I don't know if you were expecting me to yeah, well, I think If you've touched on that particular one, because that really talks to the letting go of an emotional pain, and that's a really good example and I don't even know if it's like for me, I think it's like don't let it go.

Speaker 1: 54:30

This is kind of where I've been at. I've been trying to let it go or like fix it, and I've kind of now realized that it's about accepting it and allowing it for what it was and what it has been and what it still can be, but not holding onto it as that's who I am. Yeah, and the thing is, the place of acceptance and accepting ourselves as walks and all is a really fundamental attribute that we're all looking to master. But through that acceptance, through you working through what you've worked through, whether you realize this or not, you are actually creating an alchemical shift within you and over time, and it's like an onion layers and layers and layers. And the more you keep working through that and just surrendering from a place of unconditional love, acceptance, you will actually clear it. You will dissolve it, because a lot of the things you might be bringing up we might think it's from something early in this lifetime, but a lot of stuff that will be coming up now will be from past lives. So that's why it's gonna feel really intense.

Speaker 1: 55:52

But the other flip side to me turning that question back on you is you got compelled to make a sea change. So, on a more positive side, there was a sea change. You move from city living to country living. But you felt compelled. You and your husband and family just felt right. So really, from that perspective, people might find that where they live doesn't resonate for them anymore. So they make a sea change. So that's another example of it and you just did it beautifully.

Speaker 1: 56:31

We were running energy at the time and I could see your evolutionary process really kicking in and you were making these massive life decisions, like we're moving from the city to the countryside. Wow, the reality of our kids out of school that was another big one. The reality that you've created, the beautiful environment you have created, is really all around fifth dimensional consciousness. Now, that doesn't mean say everyone has to leave the city and move to the country. I'm just saying for you. That's what you were listening to in yourself and intuitively garden and just felt right. You and your husband made this decision. So I'm not suggesting everyone they've all got to leave the city but I'm just saying for you. So what feels right for you will be something different for someone else and it's really about we'll just pay attention to what's coming up for you and what's changing. Just go with that.

Speaker 1: 57:34

So that whole consciously shifting from a third dimensional way of living to a fifth dimensional consciousness and way of living. It's about responding to life, one consciously trusting instinctually what feels right for you and acting on your intuition, which is what you're doing with your awareness, tapping into your creativity in a whole new way, which you're doing now. You've made this sea change. You're tapping into your creativity in lots of different ways. We don't have time to talk about it, but you are Grading greater understanding towards not only yourself my God, you've just talked to that but through that process of vulnerability you've probably got more compassion and conditional love for your husband, your children and other people around you, because we're all going through it and we're all making those changes. But I guess, last but not least, really going with the flow of that and connecting. And when we go with the flow of what feels right for us and acting on what feels right, we're really connecting in with that synchronicity of our life. So watching for signs in our life this year will support the lives of those who are in the same world. It will support us not only to keep evolving and keep changing if it's more internal process that we need to look at but we're becoming more into alignment of our new self and our new reality. So, yeah, watch it for the signs.

Speaker 1: 59:11

So just to finish this, then, really some tips about adopting a fifth dimensional reality. So what are the tips? What are the tips? Give us the tips, le Ver.

Speaker 1: 59:25

Look, I'm not giving something that is so radical and different, and I would expect a lot of people have heard this on some level but these are things that when I'm working with my client base, I find myself talking to because they're really practical things, right, yeah, and they're things you can hold on to and say right, and really test the theory behind right, rather than it's all vaporware, and really try and walk the path of well, how do I create my fifth dimensional reality? How do I create my heaven on earth. How do I co-create my life? So, as we know, during radical changes is always an opportunity for growth and new endeavors. So we will be challenged to trust our inner guidance, our intuition, follow our heart and let go of whatever no longer serves us, just let it go. And whatever keeps coming up yet it might be a level of something you've been working on you just keep working through it and just keep letting it go right.

Speaker 1: 1:00:39

So, 2024 and beyond, old strategies will no longer work, right, you know they won't work unless they're actually for your highest goods. So if you've got a strategy old strategy that still continue working and supporting you know, new levels of consciousness, it will continue to work. But if it's an old strategy that really isn't serving you, you've got to let it go right. And the more we can do this, basically, the more we're supporting you know that shifting. But what are the things? What are the simple tips I touched on?

Speaker 1: 1:01:22

We're moving into a heart, more of a heart-based consciousness, and I know this sounds maybe a bit cliche, I don't know, but a simple practice of simply and consciously moving your attention from your mind into your heart center and thinking and feeling and speaking from your heart is actually creating a shift immediately in the way you feel right and the way you think the vibration of your words are elevated. Believe it or not, you could actually say the same words, but because you're really coming from a heart, your heart center, it really shifts the vibrations. So the words you say might be the same, but what's behind it feels different. People experience it differently.

Speaker 1: 1:02:12

So practicing this over, you know, the more we practice okay, before I'm speaking, I'm going to go from my head. You know I'm thinking about this, but I'm going into my heart and I'm going to speak from my heart. You know, the more we consciously do this, it becomes natural, you know, and you know it's a bit like breathing. You know, you just naturally speak from your heart and that whole vibration behind your words just changes everything. And if you test this, you should notice how people respond to you change, right. So it's as simple as that, it's a very simple technique. But trust me, if you really test this, if you're not already working this way and it sounds, you know, maybe a bit off-fetched it really does shift everything and it really does connect you more into the vibration of the earth and the heart vibration of the earth.

Speaker 1: 1:03:07

So the one that's probably more critical well being in our hearts critical but the one that this really, I guess, interlinks with is really consciously connecting with our higher self. Okay, and when we set the intention to consciously connect to our higher self, so it's like I connect to my higher self, I surrender to my higher self. Whatever you want to affirm, we are actually opening ourselves up and becoming more in a state of receptivity. So we are saying to the universe I am open to receive whatever I need to receive in the moment and whatever guidance, whatever signs you want to bring my way. And so it really enables us to receive higher guidance and from our higher self, beyond the ego, so that we are more able to respond to life in a synchronistic way. So our higher self knows everything.

Speaker 1: 1:04:05

Right, we don't have an opportunity really to delve into what's the higher self. We can definitely touch on that another time. So our higher self knows everything about us and is there to guide us for our highest good, towards our highest potential and with our higher purpose. So again, it's all about the more we can come from our higher consciousness, the more we will come into synchronicity of our life and everything just becomes synchronistic. You know, everything sort of seems to flow more with ease and grace. So it's definitely one to test and it's simply by saying I'm surrendering, I'm connecting to my higher self. So when we work from a higher self, a couple of things we're accessing our creativity. We will find that we're more creative and problem solving. Thinking of cyber square with problem solvings were definitely more intuitive, were really connected into our broader psyche and our wisdom that we've carried for many lifetimes, that we can leverage in this lifetime.

Speaker 1: 1:05:20

So working on our high self also impends up to spiritual guides. There's a whole hierarchy around us supporting us, tapping us on the shoulder, but unless we ask for help from our spiritual guides, then they are less able to support us and help us. So that's a whole other conversation, right, but, though, by operating from a higher self, what we're saying is we are working beyond our ego, personality, self, who might think it knows everything and knows what we need, but our highest self actually knows what we need for our highest good. So the more we can tap into our higher self, the more we're working from higher levels of consciousness and we're more able to receive clarity, understanding and direction at a point in time, you know, in a month, in a year that actually might be useful to solve something going on in our lives, right? So, yeah, so I would basically recommend testing this, and the meditation I'm actually having created is well, let's create an imprint. Well, how do I connect with my higher self? What does that feel like? What's that process of coming out of the personality self into the higher self? The meditation will specifically guide you through a process to get to that point.

Speaker 1: 1:06:52

Okay, yeah, so that's the meditation to listen to, to really get an imprint of what I've just stated. On a solid level. I go, oh, yeah, now I really know how can work in a new way and differently. But importantly, you think for a moment so if we're connecting to our higher self and we're bypassing our personality self and you think about your Chiron, specifically from a Chiron wounding that is triggered when you know something in our life plays out and it triggers our wounding, if a trigger comes up from our Chiron wounding and we immediately connect to our highest self in that moment, then we're not going to play out our Chiron wounding, are we? So it's really, I'll say, bypassing. I don't think that's really the right word. What you're doing in that moment Chiron is triggered. Definitely worth listening to.

Speaker 1: 1:07:52

Part one Chiron's triggered. We're about to go into a knee jerk reaction. But I've just remembered I've got this tip oh, I'm going to connect to my highest self and I'm just going to go with that. What's my highest self guiding me to do? You don't step into that trigger. You don't step into that knee jerk reaction and you respond from your highest self. You're actually working through your Chiron and you're dissolving an aspect of your Chiron wounding in that moment as you do that. So there's another really good reason to really connect to the highest self.

Speaker 1: 1:08:33

We talked about what the Chiron is. And the last thing, last but not least, nadine, I know we've gone over time the first thing I really talked to clients about is consciously connect with the earth, consciously connect with mother nature and the elements. And this is one of my most favorite practical tips that I get my clients working with, because we're all running around, we're all getting so depleted in the moment and we've got to find that and we're not running energy on ourselves. We've got to find a way to resource and when we connect with nature, we're really supporting a resourcing process by connecting with nature, right? So you know, going for a walk, you know, sitting in nature, spending time in the garden, these are important things to support the resourcing process, to keep lifting our vibration and holding our vibration so we don't drop right, we don't drop our vibration, and supporting ourselves to resource. So you know, when we connect to the earth, you know, and particularly I say to clients, connecting with the earth element. Well, that could be walking on the beach in bare foot, it could be walking in the park and really feeling the earth and the earth element beneath our feet and absorbing the nutrients and revitalizing ourselves. Hugging a tree, you know, revitalizing ourselves and really supporting our vibration to stay high.

Speaker 1: 1:10:12

Connecting with the air element is really about you know. You know you're out walking and you feel the air wafting past you, through you and it really like it's almost like a flossing. You know, when I feel the air on my skin, I just feel like it's blowing away Anything I'm holding on to, any lower energies, any dross, any stagnated energy. The air element really wafs and can clear and lift that. So from a fire element, really it's connecting with the sun. So you know, when we're out walking about and feeling depleted or just low in the energy. You know it's really connecting to that sun element which is the fire. And you know I describe to my clients, you know, really feel the sun through the third eye, which is the middle of the forehead, and feel yourself absorbing the sun's ray through the third eye and bringing that fire source element, energy, from the sun down through the body and just resourcing and revitalizing yourself that way.

Speaker 1: 1:11:19

And the second to last element is the water element. You know, going for a swim, going, you know whether it's in the sea or a waterhole, or having a shower or a bath, you know washing away old emotions, cleansing and lifting our emotions and creating, you know, a sense of renewal. You know I love jumping in the shower because you know, especially just being hot through night, jumping in the shower just really lifts my energy and sort of sets me off on a good note for the day. And the last one, which is less thought of, you know, the fifth element, which is ether and which is actually made up of the other four elements. So the best way that I would tell my clients to work with this element is like light, you know. So the fifth element contains earth, air, water, fire, and you'd almost see those elements combined together and visualise it as light and feel your body absorbing ether right, and that's worth doing because you're just really starting to think more fifth dimensional and beyond when you're thinking about ether right and you might bring that down through the crown or you might connect with that ether element through the heart.

Speaker 1: 1:12:39

So, making time to really connect with nature and really absorbing the elements of the earth as well as the cosmos, which we're doing more unconsciously, will support us to hold our vibration, keep resourcing so that we don't dip in energy. But so, from a transverse healing perspective, we work in this way. You know we, when we're running transverse healing energy procedures, a core part of what we're doing is proceed. We're pulling the elements of the earth, finer elements of the earth and the cosmos, and we're pulling those high frequencies in as energy procedures and tapping into the body. So from a really energetically perspective, we're working with nature in the practical way I've just described, but we're working through procedures and tapping into nature of elements and cause and the cosmos, accessing higher elements and resourcing the body that way and supporting a clearing process energetically that way. So connecting with the earth and Mother Nature is a way to work with what we work with in transverse healing is the elements.

Speaker 1: 1:14:01

So, just to finish, basically listen to the meditation. Yeah, listen to it, because that will give an imprint of everything that we've talked about and really support you to really start living that fifth dimensional reality and consciousness. Amazing, laverne. Thank you so much for all of that amazing information. Guys, we've come to the end of our podcast. Please don't forget to go back. Listen to the first part, if you haven't already. If you've got any questions, go to Laverne's social media or to her website. We're going to pop those links in the show notes so you can ask her any questions, you can touch base with her there. And don't forget to listen to the meditation that supports this episode. We'll see you in part three. Until then, bye-bye for now.