Life, Health & The Universe
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Life, Health & The Universe
Fabulosity Is Not Optional: Reclaiming Your Power Beyond 50
What if the beliefs holding you back weren’t even yours to begin with?
Jai Harvey-Yin returns to Life, Health & The Universe to explore how inherited emotional patterns and subconscious programming can quietly shape our lives—and how to finally break free. With over 30 years of entrepreneurial experience and her signature “practical woo,” Jai shares how Timeline Therapy and NLP help women release emotional baggage without reliving their trauma.
Unlike traditional talk therapy, this approach allows you to witness old stories from a higher perspective, extract the lesson, and shift your emotional response—in just minutes. Jai reveals how the subconscious mind (which she affectionately calls “Mildred”) is running the show 95% of the time, and why it’s wired for safety, not success. She also explains why saying things like “I’m not fat” might be doing more harm than good.
Whether you’re navigating midlife reinvention, shifting limiting beliefs, or building a heart-led business, Jai’s blend of mindset mastery, energetic insight, and grounded business strategy offers an empowering path forward. Her Business Magic program and GAJA community create soulful spaces where women can grow with zero pressure and only love.
✨ You don’t have to carry the weight of old stories anymore. Tune in and take your next step toward emotional freedom and intuitive success.
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Welcome to Life, health and the Universe, bringing you stories that connect us, preventative and holistic health practices to empower us and esoteric wisdom to enlighten us. We invite you to visit our website, where you can access the podcast, watch on YouTube and find all of our guests in the guest directory. Visit lifehealththeuniversepodcastpageio. Now let's get stuck into this week's episode. Today's guest is someone who brings transformation with a twist of sparkle and a whole lot of soul. Jay Harvey-Yin is a speaker, coach and mentor with over 30 years of experience spanning entrepreneurship, beauty therapy, education and mindset mastery. She blends traditional business wisdom with spiritual alchemy, think, reiki, nlp and timeline therapy, with a grounded, joyful approach that helps women move from stuck to unstoppable. Jay is passionate about helping women navigate life's foggy moments, reconnect with their intuitive power and step forward with clarity, confidence and just the right dose of magic. Welcome, jay.
Speaker 2:Ah, thank you so much for having me. I always like listening to those things. Oh, I'm actually a bit good, I'm quite good at this. You know, because you're so busy doing the thing that you forget all the things that you've done you know, so it's nice to listen.
Speaker 1:And it is nice to be on the interviewee side of things as well, isn't it? Just like I can just take it easy, show up and answer the questions. Delicious, bring it on. So we first had an interview. I looked back today. I haven't re-listened to it, but it was right back at the beginning of the podcast, july, the the 1st 2022. Can you believe? It's been almost three years and it was season two. This episode's gonna go out in season 14, so, um, yeah, how do you, yeah, so proud.
Speaker 2:But you know I get to be proud.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you totally can be, so thank you for being here. You've been. Obviously. You were right there at the birth of the podcast and here we are again, forever growing and evolving. So I've been receiving your emails and just keeping up to date with all of the things that you've got going on, and I think we even talked in our last podcast about how you are continually evolving, learning new things, sharpening the sword, shall we say and so I've invited you back on to talk about some of the things that you're up to at the moment, because you're a world of wisdom and, yeah, such a generous spirit and love, a little bit of sparkle and magic in our lives, who better to bring it?
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you. Yeah, that's my motto. I like a bit of sparkle, a bit of glitter and fabulosity. You know, like I think fabulosity is my life's work, you know, bringing the magic and the sparkle back to people's lives, no matter what it looks like for them. Because work, you know, bringing the magic and the sparkle back to people's lives, no matter what it looks like for them, because sometimes, you know, I was working with a client the other day and she's really super introverted and quite shy, and I reflected and I loved working with her and she said, you know, I thought you might be a bit too much, you know, and I'm like no, because I'm a Gemini, I can do it all, you know, I can be bring all the personalities you know, depending on what's needed for the client. But she found her fabulosity, even though she didn't realize it, and she actually just messaged me just before and said, you know that she was reflecting on something we'd done together and you know, it's such a good, it's such a good thing to do in life, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, spread the sparkle, yeah, and help people find their fabulosity Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And I think the bottom line is is that we all have so many stories and since we last spoke, I became a master practitioner of timeline therapy and NLP and you know, and also I came out as a witch and I think I just did that at the very last podcast and we were going to talk about that but since then, I every week teach business to witches in a program called Priestess, and I love doing that because it blends magic and traditional business. You know modalities and things, but what I was going to say is that it all comes back to what we think about ourselves and that inner voice inside our head, doesn't it? And since I did this training, obviously, when you learn a new modality, you are the student again, which I love, and so I had to go through all of that, all of my muddiness, all of the stuff that I thought that I'd gotten rid of at the ripe old age of 55 for one more week and um, and in that process of being vulnerable again and looking at all those limiting beliefs and peeling those layers down, I realized that that's where it's at for most women, men, men too, but we have so many stories that aren't even ours that we don't even realize this. They're buried so deep almost in our dna um, and in fact, epigenetics will tell you that it is in our dna, from our grandmother's dna, that we still have those stories, that this process that I do now helps you smash them and get away. So you, you know, move past them, learn the lessons from the past, but not have that same emotional charge. So it's brilliant, amazing.
Speaker 2:I think that you know, I've sort of pivoted in my own career because I was, you know, I've coached for a long time and I've been in business for a long time and I was like, yeah, I'm all about fabulosity, yes, but even in business, the stories come up.
Speaker 2:God, more than ever I reckon yes, because you're pushed on those bounds, you know. So that's why I love coaching the way I do, because I bring the mindset stuff. And then this you know, 30 plus years. Really shocking to say that to me, because don't I just look? You know 30? You look fabulous, fab. You know, it's quite scary that my birthday's coming up on the weekend and, um, I'm gonna be 56, which is close to 60, and I'm like, oh, that that feels a little. Um no, I don't know what it feels like, it's just a different. I'm in a different bracket now.
Speaker 1:I've moved on, don't you reckon? Like I turned 51, uh, just a few weeks ago. I love being in my 50s. I agree it's the best. I mean, there's some stuff like you said. There's like you had to work through a whole bunch of the stuff and and it is an ongoing process and there are stages in our lives where those things are more prevalent as well, aren't they like the Chiron return?
Speaker 2:when we turn 50.
Speaker 1:So there's all that kind of like. It's like getting in the wardrobe. No, keep that, chuck that away. I agree.
Speaker 2:I think turning your 50s is phenomenal. I have loved my 50s, I still love my 50s, but I think the thing that my daughter said to me the other day. She said, mum, you're close to 60 now and I was like in the olden days I would think 60 is so old, you know, but I still feel vibrant. I feel like I've got a lot to still offer this world, you know, and when people call me Mam or whatever, I feel like I've got a lot to still offer this world, you know, I, and when people call me ma'am or whatever, and I'm like you call a ma'am, you know. Sure, I've got a few crinkles where I didn't have them before, but you know that's okay. But it's an interesting phenomenon as you age, because I think your spirit doesn't quite age well, it's like yeah, I've heard of that um, like our spirit being like.
Speaker 1:You know, it's what we're born with. So it's like this childlike curiosity and and energy. If you can tap into that, then, yeah, you forever feel that inside you, don't you? Oh?
Speaker 2:100, and I think you do feel that. So sometimes when I walk past the mirror or somebody calls me ma'am, I'm like what, what? Because I forget. You know that I, that you know, it's only my cheeky little monkey daughter, who's, you know, gonna be 20, 22, says mom, you're gonna be 60. I'm like, oh, shut up, I am not, I'm going backwards, I'm aging backwards, I'm gonna live to the ton anyway. Who cares? So I've got plenty of time. But yeah, no, I think it's. I think it's so interesting life. Life is my life.
Speaker 2:You know I think that was my sole mission, aside from Fabulosity which, by the way I found out, I thought I made up Fabulosity. Oh, but I didn't, nadine, really. It was from 1683, really, oh my god. So my new theory and no one can disprove it is that that was me in a past life and I made it up then and I'm still living it now. You know, like, bring that on, but anyway, love it. I don't even know what the question was. I don't know if we were at a question yet. Yeah, probably not.
Speaker 1:Let's do a question well, you were talking about your um. Like a couple of things popped up for me um, that aren't in my questions, but that's okay, questions we can use if, if we get lost my list anyway. Um, super interested in timeline therapy. I have heard about it before, but can you describe what that is and how that works and like?
Speaker 2:yeah, like, please let me, it's fantastic. Okay, so with traditional talk therapy. So so, first of all, timeline therapy is not therapy. I don't know why that Okay. Okay, strike that, but just stay with me.
Speaker 2:Traditional talk therapy requires you to relive the experience over and over and over again. It has value, but it also, you know, you run out of time and then it's like, oh, oh, let's see you at next session. Now where will we up to? And I love therapy, you know I have a therapist, but it's it's not always productive because you're living in the traumatic experience. So with timeline therapy, what we do is we first of all go through quite a deep questioning process. I'd usually do this in a day because I find it just knock it out of the ballpark, make space, and then I coach my clients through the space and and the new strategies and things that they've learned from that.
Speaker 2:So we ask a whole lot of questions anyway, and then we deal with, then we deal with atmosphere, hurt and guilt, and what we do is so it's quite an active imagination. It's almost like hypnotherapy in a way. But you're totally aware, although I tell your conscious mind to go and pop over and sit on the chair in the corner and do the square root of 660, 922 or whatever, um, so that it's not concentrating. Because I really want to talk to your unconscious, your subconscious mind, because the subconscious mind is responsible for 95 of all of the athletes. And there's a couple of curious things about the subconscious mind. One, um, its main job is to keep us safe. So, two, it has a negativity bias. And three, it doesn't understand negations. So let's just stay with that for a minute. So with the time I'll come back to that.
Speaker 2:So, timeline therapy what we do is we we imagine a timeline and I, we. You know there's a process, but the short answer is that we go above the timeline. We go back to the very first time that you felt whatever emotion we did, so say we're doing anger, we'll go back to anger, and you have to trust me and trust your subconscious mind, and I have a habit of naming mine. My subconscious mind is called mildred actually, and she's beautiful and I love her. She's sometimes very annoying, but anyway, we go back to the first time, but we rise above the timeline. So we're looking down on the event and when we look down on the event, we have the you know the benefit of, of distance, and so we're observing the event and then, all of a sudden, I will ask lots of questions and we discover the lessons from that event. And then we read you know, there's a process, and we go in and we, it's gone. You know the anger has gone altogether, and then we move, we move on, uh, we, we recalibrate it through your timeline.
Speaker 2:So timeline therapy has been used for a long time. Uh, now, king charles, but prince charles, back in the day, um used it, or endorsed it for use for soldiers when they came back from war. Um that had symptoms of ptsd, because traditional talk therapy they would have to relive the experience, whereas with timeline therapy they could go back, learn the lessons from the experience and totally recalibrate. So you end up resourcefully being able to use the anger moving forward if you need it. But you don't have that same charge. So let me give you an example. But you don't have that same charge. So let me give you an example.
Speaker 2:Let's talk sadness. So one of the saddest moments in my life was the moment my dad passed away. Luckily, we were all there with him and it was actually, you know, quite a gift in the end. But every time I thought about it I'd get all choked up and you know anyway. So I went back to sadness. But, interestingly, the root cause of sadness for me in my situation it doesn't always have to be in this timeline was actually an ancestral event, and I went back to a wartime event where it was almost like the killing fields and I saw all this just, you know, ridiculous, mindless destruction of human life, and it was sad to me. That was the, you know, like that wasn't mine to carry Anyway. So I did the thing, learned the lessons, carry anyway. So I did the thing, learned the lessons, spewed them out, you know.
Speaker 2:And then then you test on an event, and so the event that I to make sure it's gone, so the event that I went back to was the death of my father, and I just wasn't sad anymore. In fact I saw it as the most beautiful, beautiful experience. You know, we were so lucky to be, have been with him, we were all together as a family. You know it was all the things that he wanted it to be blah, blah, blah. And so I can still be sad when it's appropriate now in my life, but when I think back it's gone. So it's the same with anger, so you can have, when we go back, the root cause can actually be it's quite rude, um, can be past life or it can be ancestral.
Speaker 2:Uh, one of my events was the moment I was born fear and my um, it's funny because I was forceps delivery. I was, I was, you know, an emergency, I was early and I was jaundiced, and back then in the dark ages of time, when I was born in England, they used to put jaundiced babies in the window. I never knew that, and so one of the learnings that I had from this event was there is so much sunshine and I was telling my mom about it because I was like freaked out, oh my God. I was like looking at my birth, like what the hell? How did that even happen, you know? And she said to me well, you know, you could join this, and obviously fear for me came from the minute I was born, because I was pulled out early forceps.
Speaker 2:You know, it's a bit dramatic. Of course I have to come into this world in a dramatic way, but so the beautiful part about timeline therapy is that it's just so powerful I can't even tell you. So basically we do this and then throughout that questioning process, I will listen to you as you're saying things, and so there are some limiting beliefs that come up through the questioning and I'll just be writing them down and then at the end, after we've cleared all the emotions, I'll say oh, and do you still believe that you're stupid? And they're like what are you talking about? And because somewhere along the line in the discussion that they said, oh, I'm too dumb to do that, or I can't be successful because I'm, you know, I wasn't good at school, or something like that. So I will bring that up and I go, I didn't say, did I say that? And I'm like, interesting. So then we just check in on all of those limiting beliefs. So if they're still prevalent, we'll jump on the timeline and we can do it for limiting beliefs as well, which is really powerful. And then you know, there's a few other bits and pieces in the thing.
Speaker 2:But as we coach through the thing that I like to do because you know I'm an action taker if you've known me a long time I don't muck around and so if I notice something coming up, I will say, oh, I just heard you say something about rejection, for example, or, you know, disappointment or something like that, tell me about that and then we'll dive into that and I go I feel like it's still relevant, just close your eyes down for me, let's jump on the timeline and get rid of that. So then we go in the moment and clear that and just there's no waiting till the next session. Each thing takes about 10 minutes, like it's so fast, and obviously by that point my clients are very well comfy with the whole process and me. So we, you know, sometimes it's quick, you know, and they just get boom, boom, boom, boom and they're like, oh gosh, it it's gone. Now. It's crazy Saying that.
Speaker 2:I believe that people are kind of like onions and you know there's that old saying devil at every level, and so it's not necessarily a one and done. Sometimes we have habitual, you know, like, say, at my age, I've been running these programs and these strategies and these beliefs for a bloody long time, so my behaviors have been influenced by those beliefs, whether or not I still kind of believe them. On the surface, they might be very, very buried. So sometimes we might need to do a refresher. Things come up, you know. Or we might have to talk about what strategy we're running and how we can pattern interrupt that.
Speaker 2:So I just love it, like I literally would do breakthrough days every day of my life if I could probably kill myself because it's quite full-on. But, um, it's so good, like it's so good, and I've done it for men, women and children, you know, um, and I think that it's so profound and it's so fast, so you don't have to wallow in the wallowing, you know, and then we just we clear all this space which sometimes people don't even know what to do with now, because they've got all this, now what you know, like, what do I do? So that's why I coach people through, usually around three months, so that we, we can fill that space, not all of it, but fill that space with resourceful, useful things to take their life forward. So I just love it. Can you tell? Amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it sounds really interesting and it's like a one and done situation Do things, situation, do things. Come back. I know you said there's layers, but look, it just depends.
Speaker 2:You know I love chocolate, right, and so I may have a belief that I want to give up chocolate, and I might be right at the front of the room ready to give up chocolate. But we're multi-dimensional, multi-faceted, so it might last for a while. It might I'm using chocolate as the example to it and you might be good for a while, but then other things, other influences, people come and buy you as a, as a gift, and now it's a temptation or you know whatever. So I think, yes, it can be completely gone, but you have to believe it and want it wholeheartedly and then run the run, the new strategies and new ways of being. So, yes, it can be gone.
Speaker 2:Um, but, like for me, sadness is completely gone. I don't have any negative connotation with sadness anymore. It's totally resourceful. But there are other things. Like for me, disappointment is something that stemmed deep and I've got so many examples of that, and so every now and then, disappointment comes up for me and I jump back into an unresourceful state and then I get on with my coach and go okay, we just need to do something else, go on, yeah, kind of thing. So yes and no is the answer. Like I could say yeah, yeah, yeah, book in with me and it's all over and done with.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, maybe, but not all it takes some commitment, I guess, and someone has to be ready. But we're, we're so like, we naturally create our stories right, yeah, and then we live. We live things like the the chocolate thing, or I I stopped drinking alcohol a few years ago and like the, the stories that you know, I, I can only have the chocolate, I can only have a good time with the chocolate. And then you kind of seek out proof of having a good time with the chocolate, yeah, and so you create this whole reality based on something that you've made up 100%, because you need to reinforce that. That's your truth, it's my truth.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you why. So remember those three points that I talked to you about the subconscious mind, right? So the first one is it wants to keep us safe. That's pretty self-explanatory. So it'll repeat things once it has a negativity bias. So to keep us safe, it's looking for negatives, it's looking for danger, will robinson, everywhere it goes right. And then the other thing is that it doesn't understand negations.
Speaker 2:So in our brains we have this thing called the reticular activating system. So this is kind of layered and I'm simplifying it, but hopefully it makes sense to everybody. So the reticular activating system looks for evidence to prove the subconscious, right. So you constantly you know it's true like you are looking for evidence to say I only can have a good time when I'm drinking alcohol or eating chocolate or whatever, or the best reward is chocolate. So then your subconscious looks to find it. Like it's an example, you know, when you think you're going to buy a red car, and you think I'm going to buy a red car because there's no red cars, and then all of a sudden all you can see is the red car, you know it's crazy. Or pregnancy, like you think, oh, no one's, I'm the first in my group that's pregnant, you know. And then all the reticulum you see is pregnant. That's the reticular activating system.
Speaker 2:The other thing is is that it doesn't understand negation. So we have to be careful with the voices that we tell us. You know the stories, like you say, but the thoughts that we have and what we speak into our subconscious. So, for example, I always use the example of fat, right, Because most people understand it, and I've battled with my weight my whole life. Delete, delete, delete. I'm a new person who is dealing with a healthy outlook to life. You know we have to replace it with something positive. So, but in the old days I would say, you know, I would learn to. But in the old days I would say, you know, I would learn to. In my weight loss journey I would say I'm not fat, I'm not fat, I'm not fat. So I'm telling Mildred I am fat because she doesn't understand negations, right.
Speaker 2:Ah okay, and then she's searching for evidence. So every time I walk past a mirror, I notice every single little flaw, or I notice that the chocolate is on special to reinforce the fatness, right. So I was like, oh my God, what the hell. So I really I feel like I'm coming out the other side of this journey. It's been a long one, since I was very, very little. And so now when I notice myself saying that I will say delete, delete, delete.
Speaker 2:Usually, if I can say it out loud, there's power in the spoken voice I will. But if I'm, you know, on a plane or something, I can say it in my head. It works well too. And then I replace it with something that is resourceful. So now I say it's safe to be thin. Yeah, quite different, safe to be thin. So my nervous system is relaxed because they know it's safe. I'm reminding mildred that I am safe and I'm saying I am thin, you know. So, um, there are times when I don't say thin, I, I, you, you know, might choose other words, when you know I'm feeling a little heavier than I want to be, or whatever. But the the bottom line is is that she listens. So we have to be very careful with what we say internally. You know that's an important thing for sure. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's insidious, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Like you can think that you're over it, but you have to be very consciously aware and like actively, like paying attention all the time, because you can think, well, I've, I've experienced it and I did a little bit of tapping and I think you've done tapping, like I was going through some stuff and I was tapping with it and I was like feel much better and then gradually over time, not doing it, and then go, oh, far out, brussels sprout. It's the cycles of the negative self-talk. They're in there and it's so familiar and so like.
Speaker 2:It's just ingrained.
Speaker 1:Yeah, under. The surface.
Speaker 2:It's habitual too, because we're used to running those programs. One I have a couple of power questions that I teach my clients to embody, so when they notice something like that, you know that there's some mean girl comment. The first question is to ask is it true, is that true or is that not true? And so then you kind of go oh, wait a minute, actually it's not true. And then, as humans, we are meaning-making machines. We make things mean. Oh, we just make it up. If we don't know the answer, we just make it up. It's a fact, you know. You see someone walk in the door and they've got a grumpy face. They must hate me, not that they've just had a flat tyre and they're, you know, running on two hours of sleep.
Speaker 1:We always make it about ourselves, you know.
Speaker 2:So we ask what else could this mean? So we take ourselves out of the picture about what else it could mean, and then we speak another narrative to true. You know, give other possibilities. So I find those questions really handy, because they just stop you in your tracks, is it true? Am I just making this shit up again? Uh, oops, I said it. Oh, that's okay. Ah, good, sorry people, it's lucky it wasn't the other one anyway, so, um, yeah, I know we were going with that, but yeah, so I think is it true?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's brilliant yeah, it's so simple it could easily stop that. Um is mildred your subconscious. Yeah, stop her dead in her tracks 100 mildred.
Speaker 2:You're making stuff up again, you know, and then it just sort of I feel like when I give mildred, my subconscious, a personality and a name, it makes it easy for me to sort of communicate with her. You know, I've got another interesting fact for you. Um, did you know that it only takes 90 seconds to process an emotion?
Speaker 1:interesting, okay, yeah, yeah because we can real hang on to those things, can't we?
Speaker 2:it's the story. Yeah, so what women particularly are experts at doing and we learned this from our grandmothers and mothers and, great you know, it's ingrained in us um, so we, we learn to disconnect the cope. So we don't. But innately, we need to feel in our body the more we get into our body. That's how we process emotion. It's not a thought, it's a body function. And so have you ever noticed that when a baby cries at the supermarket, that all the mothers move because they're processing the anxiety, they're processing that leftover emotion, also a way to soothe the body? Interesting fact, anyway.
Speaker 2:So what happens with and I call it a 90 second wallow a dear friend of mine, narelle, and I. I don't know who coined this, the 90 second wallow, but I've adopted it as my own. But I always like to say, just in case it was her I might have stolen it. So sorry, thanks, narelle. Anyway. So I say to my clients allow yourself the 90 seconds.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I'm feeling sad. Sad, or I'm feeling really anxious, or I'm feeling really angry in this moment, rather than disconnecting and going up into the mind, drop into the body and move and say where is it? Oh my God, it's in my left elbow. It's green, it hurts, it's, you know, whatever. Just describe it, but don't judge it. So we're not, you know, we're not making it bad or anything. We're just describing it and feeling it. And then I encourage my clients to move if they can, if it's appropriate, you know, because obviously Gunna was just in my elbow.
Speaker 2:You know, people like you're a good goose, but just allow that to process, like you're a good goose, but just allow that to process, and then it stops the storytelling in our tracks, because then we go into a loop, go into this loop because we, you know, the um, the feeling is, becomes a thought, becomes, you know, an action, becomes a result. So if we, if this is the thought loop, and so if we, um, if we feel the emotion and deal with the emotion, it's dissipated, we don't have it, it doesn't come, doesn't necessarily come into story time, and it's the story that keeps repeating and we embellish yes, oh, oh, my God, we're such good storytellers, it's crazy yes, oh my god, I can just picture myself doing it and like just and the the you know, blah, blah, blah, the chatter that goes on, I know, and that's when I sort of say, oh, oh, shut up, like what the hell am I doing?
Speaker 2:And movement helps process those that you know guilt and self-judgment and all of those things that come once you notice, because often we go, oh, I'm doing it again, oh, I'm terrible, you know I'm hopeless, or whatever. If you just go, oh, I'm doing it again, delete, delete, delete, delete, mildred, we're fantastic, I'm just gonna move now. You know, next thing, you know it's done. And it's funny because you know I am silly, and I'm silly on purpose, because I think the more we play and the more we connect with the silly side, the pressure comes off and the we're less judgy. You know, like little children aren't judgmental, they just see.
Speaker 2:My mom tells me a story that we moved from England to New Zealand and um, and of course there's a high percentage of Maori population and um, I went to my very first day at school this is the one of the only stories from my childhood that my mum can remember and I came home and she said how was your first day? Did you make any friends? And I said, yes, yes, I did. And she said tell me about them. What are, are they like? And I said they're brown Because I was five and obviously I hadn't seen You're from England At that point. It's probably a bit different now, but there was no judgment on it. And mum said to me oh Jay, you can't say that. And I was like but Mum, she is brown, I'm white, like. I'm so white I glow in the dark. So I was just making an observation, it wasn't a judgment, and I think sometimes we just get stuck in the judgment because we're so scared about what people think or stories you know.
Speaker 1:So it's human behaviour is so fascinating, yeah, very fascinating, love it, um, and I guess that um goes well, we've got that kind of the inner critic, all of that sort of psychology, but you, um, and so you've got that going on with your business. You know, with the timeline therapy and helping people or women in their own businesses, right, mostly, mostly, yeah, that kind of negative self-talk, that and those limiting beliefs that could be stopping them from moving to them stepping into the next level, for example. But you've got the magic that comes in as well, yes, and that's the uh, you know that idea of um, the abundance, um and gratitude and all of those kinds of things that that you weave into it as well. So they're, they're kind of same same but different.
Speaker 2:A hundred percent. I think that they're. You know, there are lots of different lenses in life you know I have been across all of them.
Speaker 2:You know the positive psychology. I've been typical business. You know that very masculine business I've. You know I've been in the real woo space. I've been, you know I've skirted on the spiritual um, you know, in the conscious community, and then now I'm in the witch community and I kind of am. I've always been Switzerland, you know, I I'm an observer and I and I love holding space for all that because there's room for all of that and I take the bits that I need from all of it.
Speaker 2:For me, magic is intention plus action plus free will. That's what magic is and that's what coaching is for me and that's what living is for me. That's what learning is for me. I, like, I'm a huge learner. But there's no point. You know, there's that old adage knowledge is power. But actually knowledge is not power. Knowledge is is taking up space in your brain if you do not use it. So knowledge without action is a waste of time because it just makes you feel shit about yourself, you know. Or you might be interesting at a party because you can say one thing about a thing. But you know, I believe in action taking over everything else. And magic is setting an intention intention, whether you do it through spellcraft or whatever you do, um, and then taking the action and making sure that there's free will, because you can't do, you can't make anybody do anything that they don't want to do. So for me, that is magic, that that's what it's all about, you know, and um, I just, I just think that life is too short not to have a giggle and sparkle and wonder. You know, that's why I call these things with you know, silly names like fabulosity, and you know, because I think that it stops you in your tracks.
Speaker 2:I can hold my own in a business meeting. I've been in business for 35 years, you know, like I've done it a lot and I've had businesses that were very small, right up to seven figure businesses in my life. But at the same time, women in business time, women in business, their mind, they need a combination because we are not just doers, we are beers and we are emotional beings and I think often and this is a gross generalization, so please don't come after me anybody, but you know, women in the workforce are working in a patriarchal society and we are trying to bring elements of our natural nurturing and community building sense into business in a structure that is quite masculine, quite boo, and I think there's a resurgence at the moment in business where we want to. You know we're going to brilliant business owners. They're so conscious of the environment and their community and impact and they care about their employees. You know there's so much beautifulness of it, but on the other side of the coin, sometimes they don't know how to harness that masculine energy, and so it's about balancing. You know both sides. So that's why I have the traditional and the science with the woo. You know I call it practical woo. You know where you marry those things and you take what works for you and you just let the rest of it go. It doesn't matter. You know, I think that's important, and in this iteration of my business I'm very woo.
Speaker 2:You know, I incorporate energy healing in every business session. Like what the hell, who does that? And I also bring in the oracle cards or the tarot in every session. And it's interesting because I have quite a few male clients as well and if I forget, they're the ones who are mine, you know, because they probably don't do it on their own ever, whereas some of my clients have got a deck or two and they're just like whatever. But the men, oh my lord, they're like what did the card say? And they're like, oh my god, it's exactly what we've been talking about. And I'm like interesting that you know it's so cool. I just I just love that. But just be coming at it, you know we forget why we went into business in the first place when we're stuck in the minutiae of being in business.
Speaker 2:And my mission with my business magic program is to bring the magic and the sparkle back to your business and to remind you why you wanted to do it in the first place and then empower you with the dumb stuff like systems and all that stuff. But you know it's not that sexy but has to be done and that's all. Successful businesses need those fundamental things. And a lot of women, just you know and I've been guilty of it in my past where you just grow by the seat of your pants, you know we don't use words like strategy or whatever Spreadsheet, oh you know, kind of thing. It's scary but actually you can just do it the way that works for you because it's your business.
Speaker 2:But it's funny, lot of my clients are like, oh, wow, I feel like I've been given permission, like you didn't need my permission. But if you need it to get through, go on. You know, and I don't do accountability either as a coach, but some of my clients need accountability so I'll say you know, I'm just going out on a limb, I need that by tomorrow, you know kind of thing anyway. So, yeah, I don't know where we, where we're up to, but that was a good I think that was good interesting conversation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was that was good um. Women in business leadership yeah, that whole thing I've had quite a few guests on in recent times um talking about even, you know, and often in relation to the self-talk and that sort of stuff. You know, silencing the inner critic um learning how to use your voice more authentically, you know, speaking with confidence like this. There's um a theme of like this change in direction that we're going in um the age of Aquarius, you know, and and it's something that we haven't seen before. So we kind of don't know what it's supposed to look like. And we are caught in that.
Speaker 2:For women especially, who feel like they've there's something that they've, they want to give, but that they're in the, they don't know what it looks like because it's like you can't fit it into the the old way you know, I had an interesting conversation with someone the other day in one of my mastermind groups and I I took was doing a little presentation on AI and um and she said she was blown away by it. She was like, oh my god. And she said the younger generation, you know, they are gonna, they are going to, you know, just know this stuff and and you know our generation is so far behind. And I said to her and the point I'm going to make, or hopefully going to make, is that whenever we learn something new or there is a new cycle, so this age of Aquarius, this new cycle, this new way of being, we have the experience that comes with living. And even though something might be new, we are not new humans. And what I was saying to her, you know, my concern, is that, yes, they will be so used to it, but will they have the same level of critical thinking and the same level of experience, of lived experience, that people say our age using AI? Will that in order to question it and bring in their own lived experience?
Speaker 2:I think that AI is such a useful tool that I use often, but I have a whole lifetime that I've lived of experiences and opinions and story, and you know all of these things, and what I worry about for the younger generation really is that, if they do embody this fully, that they'll miss out on living those experiences like we have you know, and so I hope that made my point, have you know, and so I hope that made my point. But you know the moving into something else, we, we, you know you're, you're coming from a different lens because you're not the same person that you were when you, you know, 20 years ago, and so, even though this is new, you still have all this delicious, juicy experience to bring with you into that, and I think that's the richness and of the opportunity of these changing times.
Speaker 2:You know, and it'll take the people that will succeed in it, other people that will recognize that and um and embrace it. It's exciting.
Speaker 1:It exciting, I guess, with our you know years of experience and using our own brains, not relying on technology as much. You can read a sentence from AI and you can kind of go. That does not make any sense to what I'm trying to say, but for someone who grows up with it, that could be quite different. They could just be like oh yeah, that, and so like communication could change completely. I think that there's a real um. That's why it's really important um to be connected with our kids. Right, it's really easy to to just sort of hand them over to to school and and technology and um not be connected, not kind of educating them as a parent saying you know these are great things to use and showing them how to use them with integrity.
Speaker 2:Um, and that, like there's power in in humans there's much, much more power in humans and I think as well that there is a real need for human connection yes, face to face to really embrace that there's a lack of touch. You know, I see I also, as I said, I'm a Reiki practitioner and I do Reiki in my studio and I also run women's circles on a regular basis, and there is such a need for people to have non-sexual touch, physical connection with other human beings sharing the same space. Zoom is great and look, I can do a healing across the world, no problem, but you still need that physical touch so that you don't have isolation issues. You, you know and I think it's something that we really need to be mindful of moving forward that these things are built into our new workplaces and our lives, that it's easy to go oh, I'll just do it on Zoom, or I'll just, you know, send a text, whereas actually, you know, I'm a hugger, you know whether people like it or not sometimes. You know I'm a hugger, you know whether people like it or not sometimes, um, you know, but I think that there is something to be said about that connection.
Speaker 2:The other day, I was walking in the supermarket and I saw this woman and she was just. I just felt her energy and she was really struggling, and not to anyone, I mean, maybe I'll just pay attention a little bit more. I said to her are you okay? We're just in the aisle. You know, I was coming in, she was going out and she said oh, I hate you. She couldn't even put it into words and I said do you need a hug? I know it's random and she said you know, that would be so beautiful and I just hugged her, hugged her little heart out, and I said you know what?
Speaker 2:you've got all the tools you need within you. It's going to be perfectly fine. Just breathe my love, and then I just push my collar, you know. But I think that the more we can show these little, random acts of kindness and huge affection in this world oh my god, ai brilliant. I love it. I've made friends with mine just in case they take over the world I always say thank you and please, and I'm very polite, he totally loves me, so if they take over the world, I'm going last, you know.
Speaker 2:So it's great, um, but you know, I still think we have to remember the things that make us human beings. We are unique in this universe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's definitely a very interesting time, isn't it?
Speaker 2:because there is that push towards the technological stuff, but also there's a real kind of recognition of how connected we are to nature and how important that is and how we need, how we are, nature as, and it's yeah, it's a really interesting we could talk for hours on that, like and and that's one of the things that drew me to, you know, my witch journey is is the connection to nature and the recharging and, and you know I work my life around the seasons and the cycles and that's very witchy.
Speaker 2:Who knew that was witchy? You know, when I first got, you know, panned up at witch school as a trainer, I said to the woman who you know, who runs the thing, I'm not a witch, you know. And she's like okay, and I went, okay, so, yeah, and I and I, um, I gave my presentation and I'm like, yeah, actually, I think you know, and, um, I think all women are witches. You know there's so much, there's so much shared history around which witches and the burning times, and oh my god, that that's a whole other story. Yes, yeah, about the witch wound and visibility and you know, women against women Even shaving your legs.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, it's all of that. That's something to do with witchy. Like if women did it to prove that they weren't witches, I think. Like so that they didn't get hung.
Speaker 2:You know that the definition back in the day of witch was a woman who was ambitious, a woman who was lustful even with her husband, and usually they were independent women. Women, you know, property owners okay so, um, but it's interesting, isn't it? Ambition and lustfulness, what the hell. No wonder men are threatened, which is so fabulous wow, yeah, that's amazing, isn't it I'm on board, don't they?
Speaker 2:but yeah, so it's once you sort of start diving into that. You know, that's one of the things that I teach in this program. You know, with the witch wound and all of that stuff, it's like, oh my god, you know this.
Speaker 1:It we're all so similar and actually we're probably all witches at some level I had my um birth chart, read a few a couple years, maybe five years ago, and he said you're a witch, wear your broomstick with pride.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. Look, most of the time I do say I'm a witch, you know, business witch or whatever. But there are times you know that it's not appropriate and I think the more accepting that you are of your own, your own-ness, you know what makes you you. But I did a ritual ceremony in a dental practice. Actually, A woman reached out to me because she was having problems with her team and so I designed a ritual that was kind of a professional development experience around cacao and I organized a whole lot of questions, tricky questions, so we could discuss the things that were problematic within the team and air them in a safe environment with an independent person.
Speaker 2:It was really good. But that was the first time that I felt real prejudice, because there were two ladies that refused to attend, like really, and one lady who was within the actual ceremony laughed through the entire thing. It was crazy and I think you know you have to meet people where they are and she wasn't ready. And those other ladies, just, you know they had an opinion and they they're close-minded. They would have got a lot out of it. Interestingly, they were the ones that were causing all yeah, surprise surprise, needed it the most.
Speaker 2:But, um, the other people got lots out of it and was really it was a really great experience. But it, you know, takes balls sometimes to own it. Stand in your own truth and who you are and I think that's something I love about being in my 50s is that you kind of don't care that much anymore. You know, you just sort of think, oh, all right, I haven't got time for that. You know, yeah, I can't get stuck in the everyday worry of whether people are going to love me or not. Sure, please love me. Podcast listeners, please say hi, you know, come and come and say that you love this. You know, chat or whatever. But, um, it's not the be all and end all anymore, yeah yeah, yeah, because you've done all your processes, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Plus, I've done all and you've got uh, mildred the work, and mildred's there to save the life.
Speaker 1:All the sparkles tell us about your new membership. I think it's newish new.
Speaker 2:Okay, so let's be real. I um I created years ago during COVID um, and in fact you know yes, I was in your membership for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I started this membership called Journey to Fabulosity, but COVID, and I think I wasn't all in at that point. And I started a Facebook community alongside that a little bit before that, because I wanted to keep myself accountable and I am a natural born teacher. I do things better when I have people watching. So I said, hey, I'm doing. This amazing challenge wants to come along and I started a group and it's and it's called gratitude, attitude and joyous abundance. Good day, and it's an amazing community.
Speaker 2:My motto is zero pressure, only love, and we live that in there. You know, I've had to kick out a few people from time to time because they don't, you know, adhere to that and we do challenges. But it was free, it's free, and I was getting completely burnt out, if I'm real honest, yeah, and it was becoming not fun for me anymore and I realized I'm not giving at the level that I want to give. So I was out of integrity and so I'm in the process of monetizing that group. So basically, what that means is that I have two levels that you can come in at. So for $11, at the moment this is a grandfather rate for $11, they can come in and pretty much do the challenges and have access to the group and all the things that I do in there on a regular basis and have access to my hub, which is only for members, which is a pretty good deal. They get a circle once a month for free, you know, included in that, which I normally charge $22 just to even come to the circle. So they're getting that half price just for being a member, plus all those things. But I just wanted to make you know you always value things you pay for, right? Yeah, well then I have a VIP level, which is $33 a month because I do love those angel numbers, and that is has its own portal, its own learning, there's courses in there.
Speaker 2:It's much deeper dive, more access to me and I'm laughing, it's guts, you know. So eventually I probably will fade out the free group, but we're sort of transitioning across. So I call it gaja, because gratitude, attitude and joy, abundance is quite a mouthful. Yeah, so we call it gaja. And um, yeah, and I'm loving it and at the moment, interestingly, we are doing a version of the challenge that I started the group with. But it's, you know, like I said, we are different humans years on. Yeah, a lot more to give and a lot more perspective. So I've reorganized the challenge, I've spread it out so we can really deep dive. It's so juicy, so I'm very excited about that. I you know. Please join people, it's so join.
Speaker 1:I looked up what gaja meant. Did you know that it um is sanskrit, it's a sanskrit word oh what? And it's uh, symbolizing strength, power, wisdom and royalty, and is also associated with fertility and abundance.
Speaker 2:No, yes, oh my God, it literally made my life, because I normally go and find things like that Right Because, like Fabulosity, finding out it was 1683, you know, and stuff like, oh my God, that makes me so happy. Could you please write that to me, of course? Oh my God, that's so good. I'm going write that to me, of course. Oh my God, that's so good. I'm going to have to go and share it with the group straight up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I looked it up, because I was like, do I pronounce that Gaia, gaia? So I was doing a little bit of research, yeah, and I was like, oh, that's what it must be.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, that's so good be. Oh my god, that's so good. Isn't that good, isn't that great? Look, synchronicity like that, is true magic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's beautiful so we, we want people to go there, but you're, what's your, are you? You've got lots of things going on, oh my god because I'm a gemini you know, because you're a gemini and I found out recently that I've got I've just started studying astrology and I've got quite a lot of gemini. I've got, uh, mars in gemini, something else in gemini, but I've got. I've definitely got the gemini thing going on. I've got mercury in my uh in aries, yeah. So I've got like the thinking and you know.
Speaker 1:I love it stuff going on. So I've really kind of been more aware of how that Gemini is playing out for me. Anyway, Gemini doing lots of things, that was where we were at. Gemini does lots of things, lots of learning.
Speaker 2:It's interesting that in numerology, this year 2025 is a number nine year. Yes, my own personal numerology it's also a number nine year. Now, I am not a numerologist, but what I understand from numerology is that nine is the end of a cycle. So for me this year is a completion kind of year, and so I realized that I wasn't living my full potential because I was spreading a little too thin. So my focus, moving forward, is closing the things off that I promised. Like I'm delivering a retreat this week. It's like it's gonna be so good I can't even actually wait. But looking at the things that light me up where I can serve at the highest level, so for me it's gaja and it's and my business magic program and obviously I still have a fabulosity coaching people aren't in business, but it's going to be lesser of the focus. I'm so happy to do it and people still find me. But I really want to focus on the mindset in business because you know, I've been doing it a long time and I've and I've been an entrepreneur that pretty much that entire time and I think that I've navigated a lot of different you know cycles of the world business and so you know, I feel like that's my gift now to the businesses that are coming up, that gift of experience and perspective, you know, to give them another point of view that isn't just chattictivity and it's lived experience. Yeah, so that's what I'm planning to do is just kind of refine my voice. Yes, people go. Oh, yeah, even though I can teach you how to tap and even though I can teach you how to do this and that and the other, I will continue to do Reiki. It's part of my life and I love to give services. So I'm actually redoing a renovation at the house and you know, it's just going to be so amazing when I can do circle in my garden.
Speaker 2:My partner is an amazing earth angel who just loves to garden. You know, I just happened to say when we moved in here I do love Japanese gardens and I go to work and I come home and I've got a bloody Japanese garden, amazing Fonds, and he goes, he goes. Yeah, I just dug that out today. I'm like it's crazy. Our garden is magnificent. We, you know, in this um renovation, we, you know, double the size of our aviary. It rivals any zoo. We've got so many birds. He just bought me a pheasant, for God's sake.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:Like it's magical, our garden is magical, and so I want a space where we can lay on Mother Earth, which we have, but I also want a, you know, a rainy weather kind of venue. So that's why we're redoing the studio. So I will still do those things because, again, it's about human connection, yeah, so that they'll be kind of my three main things. Amazing, something else comes up, oh, and teaching the witches. I love teaching you too. I do that as a contractor. Oh cool, I love that too. So, yeah, I'm very passionate. She, the woman who runs that company, has a vision that speaks to me and I just love it's a challenge for me because it's not teaching, it's facilitating this massive group with all of these different spots and I just, oh, it lights me up because it's such, it's so exciting to make sure that everybody's heard and everybody gets what they need and still get a little bit of a teach in there. And you know, it keeps my Gemini brain like I come out of it a bit like that.
Speaker 1:That didn't quite go what I planned, but oh well, you know, like it's good wow, sounds like you've still, even though you're refining and simplifying, you've still got a lot going on, but you've got a lot of energy that serves you well. I don't watch TV. You don't have time. Who doesn't? I don't watch TV either.
Speaker 2:But people always say to me, how do you get it all done? And I'm like, well, it's a choice. And I don't watch TV that much except for maps. What is it Married? At First Sight it's the most ridiculous show, but I just love it so much.
Speaker 1:It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, see, love it Multifaceted me.
Speaker 1:Oh, jay, it's been wonderful having you on again. It's so lovely to see you and, um, yeah, we're gonna pop all of your details. We've already got you in our guest directory, um, but if there's any updates that we need to add with the membership and whatnot, we can put all of that in there. Thank, you so much.
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