Unveiling the Secrets of Cosmetic Surgery with Barbara Jean Quick

Insights into Cosmetic Surgery with Barbara Quick

In this episode of 'Open Forum in The Villages, Florida,' host Mike Roth talks with Barbara Jean Quick about her extensive career in cosmetic surgery as a nurse anesthetist. They discuss the differences between nurse anesthetists and anesthesiologists, the distinction between cosmetic and plastic surgery, and how to choose the right surgeon. Barbara shares valuable insights on what to expect during recovery, the rise of non-invasive procedures, and the importance of thorough research before undergoing cosmetic surgery. The episode also features a brief segment by Dr. Craig Curtis on Alzheimer's prevention studies.

00:00 Introduction to the Open Forum Podcast
01:41 Meet Barbara Quick: A Career in Cosmetic Surgery
02:16 Understanding Nurse Anesthesia
04:29 Starting a Cosmetic Surgery Anesthesia Company
06:06 Choosing the Right Cosmetic Surgeon
14:36 Advancements and Options in Cosmetic Surgery
20:45 The Risks of Cosmetic Surgery Abroad
26:16 Barbara Jean Quick's Medical Thriller
29:33 Conclusion and Listener Information

Transcript

Unveiling Secrets of Cosmetic Surgery with Barbara Jean Quick

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This is Mike on Open Forum in The Villages, Florida. I'm here today with Barbara. Quick. Thanks for joining me Barbara.

[00:01:44] Barbara Quick: Thank you, Mike for having me back.

[00:01:46] Mike Roth: Today we're gonna talk about your career in cosmetic surgery. How many years ago did you start working in that field?

[00:01:55] Barbara Quick: I started working in anesthesia in the seventies, the early seventies. So my career was 45 And I did all kinds of anesthesia.

I worked at several hospitals, but the last 28 years of my career, I spent doing just cosmetic surgery working with plastic surgeons in their offices and operatories.

[00:02:16] Mike Roth: So as a nurse anesthesia what was the difference in your responsibilities as opposed to a regular doctor of anesthesiology?

[00:02:25] Barbara Quick: A nurse anesthetist. We both do basically the same job, but we do it in different settings. A nurse anesthetist is an advanced practice nurse, which is a nurse practitioner that specializes in delivering anesthesia services and we're fully licensed to provide anesthesia for a doctor, MDDO, or certified dentist.

We work independently, but in hospital settings, since the advent of so much outpatient surgery, the people in hospitals having surgery are generally much sicker than they used to be. So a team approach is used in hospitals. You work with an anesthesiologist who directs

The anesthesia.

For a number of people, he might supervise four rooms of anesthesia. You come up with a working plan and you work together. People who are having surgery in an outpatient facility, they're generally what they call ASA one or two, which means these are healthy people. 

[00:03:24] Mike Roth: ASA .

[00:03:25] Barbara Quick: The American the Society of Anesthesiologists.

Describe there's a level of one being a healthy person with no problems. Five. Being a patient who is near moribund but may still require anesthesia from trauma or for whatever reason, a SA one and two are basically what's done in offices. So you're doing healthy people and you're doing a different kind of procedure. Over 50% of anesthesia is done by nurse anesthetists in this country. With over 80% in rural areas being done exclusively by nurse anesthesia, we're unsung heroes. They've many people don't realize what a nurse anesthetist is, and that's one of my reasons I've been a very big promoter.

Nurse anesthesia was a wonderful career. I've worked independently in hospitals, clinics, offices, and the last 28 years of cosmetic surgery was a wonderful career.

[00:04:20] Mike Roth: What drew you to the idea of becoming almost an exclusive 

nurse anesthetist for cosmetic surgery?

[00:04:29] Barbara Quick: I had worked for several years doing regular anesthesia I was living in India Atlantic, near Melbourne and working at the hospital there a friend and I decided, we wanted to do something different.

We became acquainted with a man in Miami doing anesthesia in a plastic surgeon's office, we were shocked. And thought, why can't we do that here? We made a visit to, we were still working in, at homes in Melbourne and we just decided to go to Orlando and talk to see if there was a need for our services.

And there definitely was because the kinds of surgery they were doing, they were very limited by doing just minimal sedation

We took that chance. We started a company and we started providing anesthesia and eventually that worked up to over 30 plastic surgeons.

[00:05:17] Mike Roth: Wow.

[00:05:18] Barbara Quick: In central 

[00:05:19] Mike Roth: Now , as a independent contractor. Did you have to get your own insurance? 

[00:05:23] Barbara Quick: Absolutely. And at one time, the malpractice crisis was happening

In Florida, there was a time when the rates were extremely high. There's always been a lot of politics in medicine in Florida, 

but we always managed to make it work and we brought good anesthesia, the same type you'd have in a hospital or outpatient department. To physician's offices they were able to do procedures that before. They would have to take people to the hospital or into the outpatient department.

And cost is a big factor. 'cause cosmetic surgery generally is not covered by insurance.

So they were looking for ways to keep the cost down and this was a way that they were able to do better procedures in the office and safer.

[00:06:06] Mike Roth: So is there any difference between cosmetic surgery.

and plastic surgery or really talking about the same thing with two different names?

[00:06:16] Barbara Quick: No, there's a difference. The difference really is in the practitioner. A plastic surgeon

Will do cosmetic surgery and reconstructive surgery.

Which means someone that's been injured, someone has birth defects, whatever it may be, they are able and they are trained to do something different.

Cosmetic surgeons sometimes now an ENT physician, will do. Cosmetic surgery and reconstructive surgery on the face and neck. But there are other surgeons who don't have specialty training. They will do what they call a fellowship where you spend time with a cosmetic surgeon and learn specific cosmetic procedures.

But they're not the same. A plastic surgeon has to be a surgeon first. He has to do a regular general surgery training first, then a specialty in plastic surgery. Cosmetic surgeons do not. So there is a little bit of a difference.

[00:07:13] Mike Roth: So in looking for a surgeon to do cosmetic surgery.

If I wanted to get the very best, I'd really have to find a plastic surgery specialist.

[00:07:24] Barbara Quick: you would look for a board certified plastic surgeon.

Correct. They also have, would there be any kind of problem that ever developed or some kind of issue in healing whatever they have. They're trained to have sur taking care of surgical patients of all kinds.

But cosmetic surgeons, it would depend on the procedure you were having. If you were having a big tummy tuck or you're having a a large breast reduction, a plastic surgeon would be your choice. It's easy to find out about a surgeon. There is a website.

That you can go to called the fl health source.gov. Or you can just Google, how do I find out credentials about a surgeon? You can just Google it and there will be multiple sites where you can go on and you can read where was this person trained,

What kind of credentials do they have?

You can read reviews, if you're considering PLA cosmetic surgery, I would definitely look at more than one surgeon. Many people, because a friend had surgery with a particular doctor. 

Tend to just wanna do the same thing. Oh, she looks great. That's true. And she was successful. She picked the right doctor for her.

But when you are looking for someone. You need to look for the best doctor for you, and that may be someone different. I advise. Anyone that ever asks me, to speak to a minimum of two, preferably three different surgeons.

[00:08:57] Mike Roth: And this is for more than just getting the best price.

[00:09:01] Barbara Quick: Absolute price should not enter into it.

If you're tight with money,

Wait till you can have the doctor that you choose. You won't find a big variation in prices because doctors are competitive with one another. They know they have to be within the same range. I would not let price be what made my decision for me with a physician.

[00:09:22] Mike Roth: You bring up an interesting point. I might know how to evaluate, job someone d did on painting my driveway or my neighbor's driveway I can look at the materials, the thickness of the paint how bright the color was, how good the design was.

How do you pick a plastic surgeon for you?

[00:09:41] Barbara Quick: You would go there and be very aware of the physician's staff. Because you're gonna be dealing with that staff. Your surgeon's not always gonna be available. You may call, you may have questions when you go in. Are they rude? Are they trying to rush you through?

Do you feel uncomfortable with that Staff? Find another doctor. 

But are gonna be dealing with the staff, so the staff is very important. Look at the photos. You're going to be shown photos of before and after

You're having breast surgery, don't bother looking at the others.

You can glance at them, but really look those jobs well. You can just get a feel, but you wanna know, and I can tell you from working with so many surgeons, different doctors excel at different things. You'll have a doctor that. The nose surgery he does is spectacular. But you look at his breast surgery and, oh, I don't know.

I'm not so sure about that.

People excel at different things, look at the doctor and look at his photos of before and after of what he has done. But the big thing is how do you feel when you meet him? Does he make you feel confident? Does he make you feel that this is the person that really is hearing me?

He's listening to what I want. He understands what I want, not someone who's gonna rush in, rush out, talk to my staff. Someone who really is listening to you is very important. And you'll feel it. You'll feel a rapport. You'll feel, wow, I feel really good with him or her.

I know they're gonna do what I want, and I feel that they're there for me. That is what you want, and that's why I suggest more than one doctor, and that may have worked good for a friend, but that may not work for you. So that's why it's really important. That you look at somebody for you.

[00:11:30] Mike Roth: Let's take a short break here and listen to an Alzheimer's tip from Dr. Craig Curtis. 

[00:11:35] Dr. Craig Curtis: So even if you removed 100% of the amyloid, that would not cure Alzheimer's. That is true in patients with symptoms. You can remove all the amyloid, yet the symptoms will continue to progress. So what we're doing now in these prevention studies is we're trying to see if removing amyloid prior to symptoms beginning if removing all the amyloid out of your brain, whether or not that actually halts the progression into actual symptoms 

[00:12:05] Warren: in Alzheimer's disease.

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[00:12:22] Mike Roth: Thank you, Dr. Curtis. I'm back with Barbara Quick and we're talking about cosmetic surgery.

Is there ever a case in cosmetic surgery when you're shopping for a patient? Where you should doubt whether or not the doctor that you're talking about actually did the surgery on these people as opposed to another surgeon or a contractor.

[00:12:44] Barbara Quick: that occurs, in some places. And if you ever read your surgical consent, most of them say you are allowing this doctor and his assign or his assign, which means maybe not. I would ask him. Point blank, are you the one doing my surgery?

If not, who is the surgeon who's going to be doing this? I wanna know the name of the surgeon who's doing

[00:13:07] Mike Roth: And you don't want to learn that name when you're in the op prep room? surgeons 

[00:13:13] Barbara Quick: I would say most surgeons you meet, they are going to be the surgeon who does it. But there are practices, some of the larger practices where maybe their associate or their partner or something else.

You wanna have your rapport with your surgeon and you can ask him specifically.

[00:13:29] Mike Roth: Yeah. And you talked about the doctors front office or back office. 

[00:13:33] Barbara Quick: The staff is very protective of their doctor, and I understand that. But at the same time, sometimes people take on too much. If you have a question for the doctor, you don't wanna ask his staff. And I can tell you most of the surgeons nowadays, once you have your surgery, the doctor will give you the day of surgery, they'll give it to your family member or whoever's with you.

They will say. Call me if you have a question. Don't call the office, don't call a, a emergency number. Call me, let me know what's going on, and hopefully we can resolve whatever it is on the phone. That's very common nowadays with doctors and I think that's really good.

[00:14:10] Mike Roth: If you don't have the direct cell phone number to your surgeon, you're probably dealing with the wrong surgeon.

[00:14:17] Barbara Quick: Yeah.

[00:14:17] Mike Roth: Especially for a elective technique where you have your time to get the procedure done, it's not an emergency.

[00:14:24] Barbara Quick: Most patients are very reluctant.

If they're gonna call the surgeon, they're only gonna be calling about something that's really important and that's what he wants. 

[00:14:31] Mike Roth: In the field of cosmetic surgery or plastic surgery, we've had a lot of.

Recent advances in surgery, robotic surgery, for instance. Are there any different options for consumers?

[00:14:44] Barbara Quick: So much has changed around cosmetic surgery for such a long time. I have seen drastic changes, in surgery in general, the improvement of I. Types of lasers, types of equipment that's used types of of tools that are used have been able to make non-invasive or less invasive procedures much more common.

It used to be. A person who wanted a facelift. Basically you had a choice of a traditional facelift, which two weeks downtime. And it was extreme. It was a difficult procedure, a long procedure. They now have many options. You can accomplish almost the same results, but in a much more minimal way with many options.

They use fillers, they use Botox they use different things that can make it, a terrific result, but your downtime may be three days two days, or a week the best thing to do is to schedule a consultation. If you're concerned about something, schedule a consultation, with at least two, maybe three people.

Go in and talk to them. You know exactly what you want. Go in and talk to them, see what they suggest. Some people will suggest different things. Some people will say, we can do this, we can do that. I recommend this, and then you are able to weigh your options and decide what would work for you.

[00:16:08] Mike Roth: Are any of the plastic surgeons you are familiar with using robotic surgery yet?

[00:16:13] Barbara Quick: No.

 For the kind of surgery this is facial or on your breast or tummy tuck, liposuction, these are things that are right there.

[00:16:23] Mike Roth: I didn't know they were still doing liposuction.

[00:16:25] Barbara Quick: Oh. Yes. They used to do liposuction. Now there's different kinds of laser procedures you can combine with it. There's all sorts of things.

[00:16:33] Mike Roth: Is that Sonobello be thing that I've seen adv. 

[00:16:36] Barbara Quick: Oh, yes absolutely.

[00:16:38] Mike Roth: Is that a

[00:16:38] Barbara Quick: That's good

[00:16:39] Mike Roth: A lipo suc suction thing.

[00:16:41] Barbara Quick: And there's all different ways they have an ology.

It's a type of procedure. Say someone is in very good shape, but no matter what they do, they can't get rid of this. Bit with fat on their thighs or this little bit of pooch in the belly, and they work hard at it.

Those types of lesser invasive procedures that can be very specific for that work really well, 

[00:17:02] Mike Roth: you talked about the facelift, which is minimally invasive and had a quick recovery without getting too technical, could you tell our listeners how that's done?

[00:17:11] Barbara Quick: It would depend. You would have to have an evaluation. On many things. It would depend on your age. How much weight you have gained and lost through the years. How much terger is left in your skin,

[00:17:21] Mike Roth: how much for terger

[00:17:22] Barbara Quick: tur, turg, the ability of the skin to retract and tighten, this type of thing.

And heal without, it drooping.

[00:17:31] Mike Roth: Is that the same thing as elasticity?

[00:17:33] Barbara Quick: Similar, yes. A similar type of thing. So it all depends on where you are in your own life. Some people can be 55 years old and they look terrific, and other people can be 55 and they look 70. So again, it just depends.

You have to be evaluated and you may not be able to have a minimally invasive, you may have to have a more invasive. Procedure. That doesn't mean you wouldn't get a good result. It just means you have to prepare for it differently. Talk to your surgeon. This is why the consultation with different surgeons is so important because they all have different ideas.

They approach problems differently. Having different ideas from different physicians. Might be what works best for you

[00:18:17] Mike Roth: Okay. And that's why 

[00:18:18] Barbara Quick: it's

important.

[00:18:19] Mike Roth: Lots of women have cosmetic surgery some people, become addicted to it. Is that true?

[00:18:25] Barbara Quick: It is true.

[00:18:26] Mike Roth: I see a lot of the celebrities with what I call fat lips.

[00:18:31] Barbara Quick: Yes. Some people, especially celebrities, have cosmetic surgery for a lot of reasons. Sometimes people do it for business reasons. They're in their forties or fifties, and this includes men.

They're competing in the job market with younger people. They need to look. Good. The big thing about cosmetic surgery is your own self-esteem. If when you look in the mirror, all you ever see is your ugly nose, and that's how it feels to you, then why should you live your life hating?

Every time you look in the mirror, someone that says, Hey, look at my nose. I got a Greek nose, as my family knows, I love it. They're perfectly happy. But when you feel that you look good, you're gonna perform better, you're gonna do better. You're gonna feel confidence, and that's why people want cosmetic surgery.

They just want to feel good about how they look. 

[00:19:21] Mike Roth: Are there any special preparations someone should make for cosmetic surgery?

[00:19:26] Barbara Quick: Yes. I think people tend to underestimate it. They say, oh, it's just cosmetic surgery. It's not a big deal. No. Any kind of surgery is a big deal and you need to prepare. You need to have someone to take you to your procedure to bring you home.

We're not gonna put someone that's had sedation or anesthesia in a cab with a strange driver, and you have to have someone to take care of you that night to check for bleeding. You're gonna be dozing, you're gonna be asleep.

If you live alone you don't want everyone to know your business. You can hire a nurse. They have agencies where you can hire. A nursing assistant, someone who can be with you, who can drive you. Bring you home, stay with you a day, two days, whatever you need.

And you can do that all very privately on your own. But you do have to plan. I can remember having a patient once that came in, wanted a facelift, and she wanted it because her son was getting married in three weeks. No, you're not gonna

[00:20:19] Mike Roth: Too late, huh?

[00:20:20] Barbara Quick: You're not too much, too late.

You have to prepare if you're gonna be going to Italy. For two weeks. You don't have a tummy tuck three weeks before and people sometimes just don't coordinate 

[00:20:33] Mike Roth: lemme throw a quick question at you. Sure. Because this comes up a lot. People do. What do they call it? A surgical vacation.

Let's go down to Tijuana and I get a facelift. What do you think of that kind of thing?

[00:20:46] Barbara Quick: I think it's very dangerous. Yeah, because people in Mexico or India or wherever it may be, their physicians, you don't know their training, you don't know their background. You don't know what their rules are for sterilization, you don't know anything about how they run their practice.

There are places you can go. Where you hire an agency, say you're a person living alone, you need to have a total hip replacement. You can't afford your copay. There's a place in India where you can go, where they arrange the whole thing. That's different. That's done through an agency.

And they're responsible and they're very informative and that's something that works for some people, but people that are going to wherever, Mexico, especially where they're going because of cost. What you need to do is work harder, get another job, get a loan, and stay in the United States because you know what kind of quality 

I have had patients in the past that have done that, and their results have been disastrous.

[00:21:56] Mike Roth: What can go wrong and, what do you do if you're unhappy with the results of a cosmetic surgery?

[00:22:01] Barbara Quick: There, there a lot of things can go wrong, but they can go wrong very temporarily.

Sometimes people expect, I'm gonna have this done in two days everything is, I'm gonna look beautiful. No, you're not. You're gonna have swelling, you're gonna have bruising, you're gonna have a scar that maybe is reddened and enlarged. That's why you need confidence in your doctor.

When your doctor says, no, this is gonna be okay. Give it a couple weeks. Work, sleep on a couple pillows. Let's get that swelling down. You need to relax. You need to not be doing so much. Listen to what your doctor says and it's gonna take longer than you think. To get back everything where it's gonna be perfect.

At the end of about a month, the swelling is gone. You start to see the results.

[00:22:49] Mike Roth: Now I'm just gonna talk about Hollywood individuals, 'cause some of 'em become

unrecognizable

as to who they were before. And my favorite one to talk about is Joan Rivers, right? And I had the opportunity to meet her. Personally, once in Las Vegas. I saw her

[00:23:05] Barbara Quick: in Las Vegas

[00:23:06] Mike Roth: Yeah. No, I met her at the registration desk at the Aladdin. And first I didn't recognize her because the blonde was so short. And she was wearing jeans. And then I took another look and I said, are you Joan Rivers? And she was very rude to me.

[00:23:21] Barbara Quick: That was her shtick 

[00:23:22] Mike Roth: the problem that I see is she's had so much plastic surgery that she didn't really look like herself 20 years earlier.

[00:23:31] Barbara Quick: Yes. That happens and again, this is part of choosing your doctor. I know people who would come to my doctor. I worked with wonderful doctors throughout Central Florida.

People would come in and they'd say, I want this done, I want that done. And they would say no. I'm not gonna do that because you've already had your eyes done three times. I can't take any more skin. You can't close your eyes. Somebody says, I want my lips bigger. Say, no, you look like a fish.

And that is what a doctor does.

[00:23:59] Mike Roth: He a

[00:24:00] Barbara Quick: a good doctor, tells you the truth. If he says, no I'm not going to do that. Something that maybe doesn't heal right. Or after your breast surgery, one side's a little bit higher than the other.

And he looks at it and he says, you're right. We're gonna fix that. If you have something that truly is a problem and it requires more attention, that is all part of your surgery. Your doctor will take care of that and do what they call a revision and they will revise that.

[00:24:27] Mike Roth: Are there any safeguards you can take so your cosmetic surgery doesn't turn out like Joan River's last cosmetic surgery.

 I want to know how someone can pick a surgeon, which is going to keep them safe.

[00:24:42] Barbara Quick: That's what she did. She chose a doctor who was famous and well known. And what did he start his surgery out with? When he gets her in the room, she's sedated and he's up there taking selfies with her. That's a clue right there. Your doctor isn't serious here. And he was much too cavalier and made bad decisions.

And actually he lost his license after that procedure because it was blatantly

[00:25:04] Mike Roth: How can I pick a doctor that's not going to be cavalier and over ambitious

[00:25:10] Barbara Quick: by doing what I said. The research you going on. And you do research also, you google reviews of Dr. Kilder and believe me, when people are unhappy with their surgery, they're gonna get on there and they're gonna talk about it.

So you can pull up all the good and you can pull up the bad. You may find 25 or 30 Excellent. Remarks about the surgeon, and then you find one, oh, the staff was rude and he was rude, and maybe he had a bad day. I wouldn't put a lot of, thought into that,

[00:25:42] Mike Roth: If there's only one bad one, don't worry

[00:25:43] Barbara Quick: I had a problem. He wouldn't take care of me. He wouldn't return my calls. He didn't wanna see me again because I had a pro. When you start seeing the same thing over and over, it's an alarm. I would be concerned.

[00:25:54] Mike Roth: Where does one leave a review for a doctor?

[00:25:57] Barbara Quick: Oh, there's all kinds of places. There's a place usually right on their website.

 You can go to Yelp. You can go to any of those places.

[00:26:05] Mike Roth: So that's where I would look 

[00:26:06] Barbara Quick: if you ask for reviews, it'll come up

[00:26:08] Mike Roth: So I put in the doctor's name and I want reviews. 

[00:26:11] Barbara Quick: Dr. Kilder. And you'll see lists of them under different sites.

[00:26:15] Mike Roth: Good. 

[00:26:15] Barbara Quick: Can pull that up 

[00:26:16] Mike Roth: I understand you are also an author and you've written a medical thriller.

[00:26:20] Barbara Quick: Yes,

[00:26:21] Mike Roth: Tell our audience a little bit about that, Barbara.

[00:26:23] Barbara Quick: I really wanted to honor my career and talk about nurse anesthesia and let people know what a nurse anesthetist was, I met so many patients that had just amazing stories, and I always talked a lot to all my patients, I really enjoyed my patients a lot and I thought, that's what I wanna do.

I wanna talk about cosmetic surgery. I want people to know about what you can get and what you can do and things you shouldn't do. And I wanted that in a story form. So the name of the book is "Surgeon on the Edge". by Barbara Jean Quick. And all of my stories, all of my patients, my patient scenarios are 100% true. As bizarre as a couple of them are.

They were true. My surgeon is not. My surgeon is created fiction.

 Personalities are a couple of my doctors, the doctor's personalities, but he was created as a thriller on the rise and fall of this

[00:27:23] Mike Roth: How long ago was the book Published?

[00:27:25] Barbara Quick: year ago. 

[00:27:26] Mike Roth: Okay. 

[00:27:26] Barbara Quick: It's on Amazon.

It's in Kindle Soft cover and hardcover 

[00:27:30] Mike Roth: so if someone wants to get in touch with you to ask a question about the book or plastic surgery, how do they do that?

[00:27:37] Barbara Quick: They could email me.

[00:27:39] Mike Roth: And the address is 

[00:27:39] Barbara Quick: is B-M-Q-U-I-C k@aol.com. Bm quick, aol.com. Very easy.

No. I think that we've covered everything and I will say this I want everyone to understand I do not do any physician recommendations. That is not my place to do that, and most of my surgeons are retired anyway, the ones that I worked with.

But I just, do not do that. I'll answer any kind of questions, a regular question but I do not do any kind of recommendations.

[00:28:10] Mike Roth: So you were a clinical. Cosmetic surgery anesthesiologist for 20, 30 years as a career.

Did you ever have any plastic surgery yourself?

[00:28:21] Barbara Quick: I had my eyes done 25 years ago. I could have had everything done. A facelift, a tummy tuck, a breast augmenta. I could have had it all. And I had didn't have any of it. Oh, I did have a little bit of lipo done on my chin. That's it. And I was very happy with it. Having a, what they call a blepharoplasty eye surgery is terrific procedure. It takes 10 years off a year age. Just by the having that, it's just an amazing, very forgiving, healing quickly surgery.

[00:28:50] Mike Roth: I have a friend who did an eye surgery.

[00:28:53] Barbara Quick: Men are very difficult to do eye surgery on

because the big problem, think of people, remember pictures of Kenny Rogers. He's a perfect example. He has feminine eyes. 

You can't do a feminine eye on a man because he's gonna look feminine. You have to find a surgeon. If I were a man and I was having a surgery done, I would ask him or her, how many men have you done this procedure? It doesn't matter how many women, how many men do you have photos of those men?

It's a very tricky surgery to get a man to look really good, have what he needs, but not have the feminine eyes.

[00:29:33] Mike Roth: Thanks a lot for joining us, Barbara.

[00:29:34] Barbara Quick: Thank you for having me, 

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