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Walking into the Future: Chris Raesly on Non-Surgical Knee Pain Relief
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SciMoTech Gait Modification Therapy: The “Invisalign for the Knee” for Non-Surgical Pain Relief
Walking into the Future: Chris Raesly on Non-Surgical Knee Pain Relief
Host Mike Roth introduces Season 8 of Villages Vitality Life and interviews Chris Raisley, a physical therapist and clinical lead at Scientific Motion Technologies (SciMoTech), about a non-surgical gait modification therapy for knee pain. Raisley explains why the foot-worn device is compared to Invisalign: a custom “mod” is positioned on a SciMoTech shoe to retrain walking mechanics, redistribute forces through the kinetic chain, and reduce or eliminate pain. The device is worn indoors on level surfaces for 30–60 minutes daily, with balance screening required. An initial 1.5–2 hour assessment in Orlando uses a gait lab and iterative adjustments; qualifying patients take the device home and typically return about monthly, averaging five visits over a year. The program is out-of-pocket ($3,240) with a refund option up to eight weeks, and most assessed patients (80%+) proceed. SciMoTech may also address hip, foot/ankle, and some back considerations, and is recruiting patients with persistent pain after knee replacement.
Results are based on an internal, 12-week IRB-approved clinical study and have not been published as peer-reviewed clinical research.
00:00 Season Eight Welcome
00:48 Meet Chris Raisley
01:32 Invisalign For The Knee
02:36 Inside The Foot Worn Device
05:09 How The Shoe Retrains Gait
05:53 Who Benefits Most
08:39 Beyond Knees Feet Hips Back
10:35 Safety And Balance Screening
12:52 Alzheimers Tip Break
14:04 Assessment And Gait Lab
15:48 Home Program Follow Ups
16:53 Cost Refund And Candidacy
18:31 Vs Orthotics And PT
20:21 Origins Research And Expansion
21:47 Patient Results And Why Gait Matters
25:20 After Knee Replacement Pain
26:50 How To Contact And Wrap Up
28:03 Supporters And Closing Credits
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Welcome to Season eight of Villages Vitality Life, seniors Life unscripted. In this new season, we talk to leaders of clubs and interesting folks who live in and around The Villages. We also talk to people who have information vital to seniors. You will get perspectives of what is happening in and around The Villages, Florida, in addition. We will add more information for all seniors. We are a listener supported podcast.
Mike Roth:This is Mike Roth on Village's Vitality: A Senior Life Unscripted. I'm here today with Chris Raisley. Chris, thanks for joining me.
Chris Raesly:Happy to be here.
Mike Roth:Chris Reley is a physical therapist, healthcare executive, and clinical leader with more than 25 years of experience in orthopedics, rehabilitation, and healthcare innovation, he has led regional and national healthcare initiatives and now serves as the clinical lead for scientific motion technologies. SciMoTec specializing in advanced non-surgical gait modification therapy for knee pain and mobility restoration. Thanks for joining us.
Mike (2):Okay. And Chris, what exactly is Simotech, and why are people calling it the Invisalign for the knee? Chris: So Simotech is Motion Technologies, and that Invisalign analogy is really helpful for trying to paint a picture of what it is that we do, because what we do is so very unique. So where Invisalign slowly, let's call it, retrains the teeth into better alignment with a device that goes on the teeth. What Simotech does, our device is something that is worn on the foot. We call it a foot-worn device that really is, its job and what it does is to retrain the walking mechanics.
Mike Roth:Chris, can you tell our listeners what the SciMoTech device really is?
Chris Raesly:So categorically, the therapy is what is called gait modification therapy, and that type of therapy has actually been around for- Gait is a word that we use in our industry to describe walking. So- The,
Mike Roth:the method that each person uses to walk.
Chris Raesly:Yes.
Mike Roth:Yeah. They're different. Some people kinda wobble, some people take big steps,
Chris Raesly:They do. Some
Mike Roth:people have their feet pointed out, some people have their feet pointed straight together.
Chris Raesly:They say gait or our walking pattern, our gait pattern is like our fingerprint. It is unique to each and every single individual.
Mike Roth:So show the listeners what our-
Chris Raesly:S- yeah so-… Mike Roth: Cymotek… Chris Raesly: so this isn't
Mike Roth:But get close
Chris Raesly:yeah this is the bottom, or what we call the mod, 'cause we modify the position of this, on the bottom of what we call a foot-worn device instead of using the term a shoe, because a shoe, of course, is something that you wear for extended periods of time, where this device is only worn in the home for 30 to 60 minutes when you're doing your normal things around the home.
Mike Roth:So one side of it is articulated as a sole, and the other side has Velcro on it.
Chris Raesly:Yep. So we use that Velcro to specifically position that mod, we call it, on the bottom of this shoe. And just like a prescription to, like we use that Invisalign analogy- … that prescription for the patient, this mod is on the bottom of this shoe specific to that individual patient.
Mike Roth:Placed exactly in the right place for that patient.
Chris Raesly:Exactly. is how we move it.
Mike Roth:So this is a special shoe. A Cymotek shoe.
Chris Raesly:That's correct. And you don't put this mod on a regular shoe and wear it out and about. This is strictly in the home- indoor on level surfaces.
Mike Roth:Indoor
Chris Raesly:shoe. Indoor. Yep. With every step in- indoors. So
Mike Roth:Let's show our listeners what the shoe looks like. It doesn't have con- well, it has conventional laces if you wanna lace it up, but it also has a zipper that goes all the way around so that you can slip your foot in that way.
Chris Raesly:and easy.
Mike Roth:That's really cool. So you guys actually make these shoes, Scientific Motion Technology shoes?
Chris Raesly:That's correct. Okay. Those are the ones that get sent home with the patient-… unique to them.
Mike Roth:So there are different sizes of these?
Chris Raesly:There are very v- very different sizes. And really they re- really retrain how how the body moves during walking. And they change the forces, most importantly, that pass from through the body up what we call the kinetic chain the chain of forces that or the forces that pass up through the entire body, the foot and ankle, the knee, the hip, and all the way up. From the time that heel hits the ground all the way through what we call mid-stance, when the foot is flat, all the way to when the toe comes off. And different people that have knee pain can feel pain at any and all of those different phases of walking. But the goal is to eliminate or de- significantly decrease the pain that they're feeling in their knee when they're walking with this device.
Mike Roth:Okay. So who is the perfect patient for the SimoTech device?
Chris Raesly:I think just like life and specifically in, in healthcare, the earlier you address something, the easier the road is ahead. And that's not different or unique with SimoTech. And the example of that would be if we talk about that, quote, "perfect patient"- that early patient to identify, it's that patient that maybe is, playing an hour of pickleball, and maybe they just kinda get punished at the end of the day or the next morning with some pain and some stiffness. So they're noticing that pain in their knee is i- is impacting what they want to do from a social perspective, from an activity perspective. Maybe they like to play a couple rounds of golf a week, but their knees are only letting them play one round of golf, or they like to go for a walk with their dog-
Mike Roth:what about the people here in The Villages or other places in the country that, have b- been out to see a doctor to about their knee pain? The doc says you can try analgesics, or you can try an injection in the knee, or even a total knee replacement." At what stage of that game- Does Cymoteq come in?
Chris Raesly:Yeah it's a perfect question. And as we talk about that quote, what is the perfect patient? Of course, the earlier you address something, the better. But that said and another analogy we use, and I tend to talk in some, in a lot of analogies, is if you need an alignment and balance of your tires of your car, some people will wait until it gets down to the metal there on, and that the tire, is w- You guilty of that?
Mike Roth:I took it in, and I told the Mercedes dealer that the car fishtails when it rains. And so he puts it up on the lift, and in the center of all four tires, you could steel, see the steel bands.
Chris Raesly:Oh, man.
Mike Roth:that was an experience I wasn't expecting.
Chris Raesly:I bet.
Mike Roth:But we put new tires on, the car was perfect after that.
Chris Raesly:Those steel bands are a great analogy for the knee when we talk about- Letting
Mike Roth:it go too far… Chris Raesly: you go, letting that bone-on-bone in the knee. That's getting down to those steel bands. So yes, better to get that alignment and balance in your car early, better to do this early, but the truth of the matter is though patients that we do see are often those patients that they're being told that they are appropriate for a knee replacement. And maybe they just want to either delay that knee replacement, for whatever reason. It's not a surgery that people look forward to generally. O- or- Most people don't wanna do
Chris Raesly:surgery. Or they want to avoid it altogether- Yes … of course. Yeah. So that is definitely a patient population we serve. we're blessed to have so many gifted surgeons- … that do a wonderful job. But of course, if we can avoid a big surgery or at least delay that, that's really what we're purpose-built to do.
Mike Roth:So knees are the first area where the Cymoteq device works. Does it work for people who have other problems with their feet?
Chris Raesly:Yeah.
Mike Roth:Like that I'm gonna mispronounce the, not fibro myna- my- myalgia.
Chris Raesly:looking for plantar fasciitis, if you're thinking
Mike Roth:of- That's
Chris Raesly:it.
Mike Roth:thinking of plant- That's a biggie plantar f- Fa- We say that word, plantar fasciitis.
Chris Raesly:Plantar
Mike Roth:That's where- Yeah … when you step down on your heel, you get pain.
Chris Raesly:That's correct.
Mike Roth:Could this help that, too?
Chris Raesly:So it's a gr- another great question. We have methodology for foot and ankle as well as hip And little, and low back? when you walk, there's forces that pass, of course, through that knee, through that ankle, through that knee, up through the hip, all the way up to your spine. So we take all of those. If people have pain in certain areas, our methodology allows us to position this mod in such a way that we can offload the soft tissue- that might be irritated. In the case of the plantar fascia you discovered if we can have forces pass through the foot differently. We have heard people say that it does help with those other things, certainly with hip pain, whether it's soft tissue pain around the hip or arthritic pain in the hip.
Mike Roth:And you mentioned lower back. How about people who have stenosis?
Chris Raesly:Yeah. With stenosis is a tricky one. If somebody, let's say, has severe spinal stenosis but maybe everything down that, what we call that kinetic chain, your hips and your knees and ankles are really good- … in isolation, those tend to not be the patient that we focus on. But that said, a lot of people with knee arthritis and issues that we do really address, we can take into consideration the position of this to help to either offload those areas in the back that are causing them problems or certainly address the knee pain issues without exacerbating or increasing the problems with the back.
Mike Roth:Let me ask you a question that many people may ask about. Since your device doesn't cover 100% of the sole area here or the front or the back, as you place it, does it cause balance problems? Can people fall when wearing these d- around their home?
Chris Raesly:N- what we do is we wanna make sure that we do a balance screening. Our patients need to have some decent underlying balance. They need to pass some standardized balance tests because by design with this, this sole does not cover the entire bottom of the shoe. This particular one, we actually do have ones that are wider that provide some more stablility. But the important part about why this is shaped the way it is 'cause not only does the device- change the center of pressure. It changes the way those forces are put sent up through that knee and redistributes that, but it also causes what we call, the fancy word is perturbation, or some intentional ins- a slight instability because what that does is it helps to ch- what we like to say is trick the nervous system in a way to help untrain some of the old faulty movement patterns, gait walking patterns, and then help retrain the body to use those healthier, more natural, more fluid gait patterns that we shoot for.
Mike Roth:So people shouldn't need a cane or a walker at home when trying these out for an hour?
Chris Raesly:Yeah, it, if somebody really requires the use of a walker all the time, it really tells us that they have balance dysfunction that's quite significant, so it may not be safe for them to do this sort of thing. But if, on the other hand, somebody is using, let's say, a cane because their knee might be giving out or because of the pain that wouldn't preclude them from being a patient of ours. 'Cause quite often when a patient does come in for the assessment, we can, in that one visit, which that initial visit is about an hour and a half to two hours, within that time span, we can either significantly decrease their pain or sometimes remove their pain altogether so they don't feel the need to use that cane anymore.
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Mike Roth:I'm back with Chris Risley from SimiTech. Chris, we were talking about the assessment. So I ass- I assume you, you have, a methodology to create a appointment for people at your offices in Orlando. First question, is you ever gonna have an office here in The Villages?
Chris Raesly:We really do hope so. Our demographic is right here in The Villages. These are the patients that we wanna serve, that wanna stay active but are limited by knee pain.
Mike Roth:So they make an appointment for an assessment. How long is that appointment gonna take them?
Chris Raesly:So the appointment, the very first appointment is about an hour and a half to two hours, which is quite extensive. . We do a very in-depth physical assessment of hip, knee, ankle, knee specifically- We watch patients' gait mechanics. We're trained as clinicians to, to do that. But what we also get during that hour-and-a-half to two-hour assessment is in our … We use advanced technology in our walking lab, our gait lab as we call it. And that technology gives us hundreds of data points that also inform the prescription and the position of the shoe specific to that patient.
Mike Roth:Are you videotaping the people walking?
Chris Raesly:And so we pull together between all the technology, the data, between what we see is going on mechanically with how patients are compensating with the way they're walking, coupled with where they're feeling their physical pain. And throughout that session, we template their foot with this mod. They walk on it, and we take it off, we tweak it, we put it back on, we take it off, we tweak it. And the goal is to get that pain as low as possible or to eliminate it that first visit.
Mike Roth:On the first visit.
Chris Raesly:On the first visit.
Mike Roth:Okay. So what happens next?
Chris Raesly:Yeah.
Mike Roth:They take it home and they wear it for an hour a day for how long before they come back for another visit?
Chris Raesly:Yep. So the patient will take the shoe home- … with their prescription that very day.
Mike Roth:Right.
Chris Raesly:To reiterate, they only do that if we see the changes that we need to see in the data that we're improving- … their walking mechanics and/or the patient feels less pain or no pain.
Mike Roth:All right.
Chris Raesly:So- And when they do, the data's gonna show that certainly.
Mike Roth:when do they come back for second- evaluation?
Chris Raesly:The second visit is about a month later.
Mike Roth:Okay.
Chris Raesly:So when they take that shoe, the very first week that they leave with the shoe, that shoe is only physically on their foot for 30 minutes that first week.
Mike Roth:And- For
Chris Raesly:the whole
Mike Roth:week?
Chris Raesly:F- per, 30 minutes per day.
Mike Roth:Per day.
Chris Raesly:And of that 30 minutes that the shoe is physically on their feet, they're only standing and walking for just a portion of that. So patients, we say, "Go about your normal routine in the morning." They'll slide in their shoes out of bed maybe. They'll feed the dog, make the coffee, maybe sit for a minute, stand back up and walk, and they just incorporate it into their day. And each and every step that they take, helps to unlearn those old patterns and relearn new.
Mike Roth:Is any of this covered by Medicare insurance or supplemental policies?
Chris Raesly:It isn't at this time. It is an out-of-pocket expense. And the treatment session is for one full year, and patients usually come back an average of five times throughout that 12 months to retest. We retest them on the technology barefoot-… to barefoot, so we can But all of that, for the insurance side of it- … or the payment side of things, we charge zero dollars for that hour-and-a-half to two-hour assessment because we wanna make sure that we see what we need to see change-wise- Okay … in order for them to feel confident to move forward because it is an investment.
Mike Roth:So what percentage of the patients that you see now are- not good candidates and therefore after that first assessment, which didn't cost them anything- … you say, "Sayonara, we can't help you."
Chris Raesly:Yeah. Actually very few. A high percentage in the north of 80% will move forward. Okay. And part of that is we do a screening over the phone to rule out things like somebody might have a neurological condition- … like a foot drop we call it, where they can't,
Mike Roth:Yeah… Chris Raesly: I had a friend with that.
Chris Raesly:But a high percentage of people move forward. The full cost as it stands now, although we don't charge anything for that assessment to make sure that it's the right fit and let the person decide, is $3,240. And what we share with people is even after up to eight weeks after they go home, if for some reason they feel like it's not doing what it's doing- They will get that money back. We have not had anybody take us up on that , but we always throw that out there to give peace of mind because it is an investment.
Mike Roth:Okay. And what's the difference between what you're doing here with this special shoe and Traditional physical therapy?
Chris Raesly:So we hear that. Why not just physical therapy traditionally?
Mike Roth:Yeah, why not
Chris Raesly:And they're great questions. So we refer a lot of patients to physical therapy. If they haven't had physical therapy at all or in a long time, there's a lot that physical therapist can do with general strength and range of motion. Likewise, orthotics they're not walking in these shoes. These don't become their shoes on a daily basis, only in the home.
Mike Roth:So- No, I
Chris Raesly:wouldn't
Mike Roth:walk around-
Chris Raesly:Yeah. No, people- … as cute as they are, right? Unless
Mike Roth:they had a big spring on it
Chris Raesly:you
Mike Roth:go… Chris Raesly: you there faster in The Villages with those bouncy shoes.
Chris Raesly:Right
Mike Roth:they jump all over the place.
Chris Raesly:Yep.
Mike Roth:So-
Chris Raesly:But they keep their orthotics in their regular shoes- … because what this is doing is helping to untrain and retrain those muscles so they move differently and so you have carryover into your regular shoes. The difference here is an orthotic will con- it does a great job at controlling the sta- the stationary, the static position- … of the foot. But what this does is it changes the way the the body works mechanically from the foot all the way up through the back.
Mike Roth:Right
Chris Raesly:In our body analogy, we have, bones, ligaments, muscles, joints, all those types of things. Here’s the analogy, picture the Glenn Miller Band. Each musician plays a key role, like your joints and muscles. Now, physical therapy might be a great trombone soloist—it helps one part shine. But at SciMoTech, we’re Glenn Miller himself, conducting the entire orchestra so all your movements, like all those instruments, come together in smooth harmony. We’re not just focusing on one note, we make sure the whole mechanical dance of movement pulls together for less pain and better function."
Mike Roth:Okay. How was this invented? Where did it come from?
Chris Raesly:Yeah. So the technology for ga- for walking modification or gait modification therapy originated in Israel. There's been- over 80 s- peer-reviewed studies that have been published on gait modification, so it's not a new technology. We actually are the only here in the based in the United States, and we're really excited about that, to be based in Central Florida within reach of the villages here and other parts of the state.
Mike Roth:I noticed the shoes weren't made in
Chris Raesly:Israel. No. No they were not. But our team is actually made up of a who's who of leaders in the biomechanic space PhDs in movement,
Mike Roth:Wh- when was it first brought onto the marketplace?
Chris Raesly:Gait modification therapy has actually been around for about 10 to 15 years. But we chose Florida, and more specifically, Central Florida here to stand up our gait lab. It'll be our flagship location where all the new technology is run through, and then, as we expand throughout the state and generate awareness, we'll move into places like The Villages, or we have a physician partner of ours in Tampa that wants us to move there. But to answer your question, too, more specifically, it's a really an amalgamation of engineers, biomechanical engineers world-renowned orthopedic surgeons that are part of our particular research, and expert physical therapists in the gait modification therapy space.
Mike Roth:what are the reactions you're hearing from patients that you've given or have come into the program with this shoe after two or three months?
Chris Raesly:Yeah. That's the absolute best part of it.
Mike Roth:Tell us about
Chris Raesly:So when, because of the way the assessment works and because we can get such a quick change in the pain response when somebody walks-… we've literally had patients hugging us at the end of that assessment because they have s- they say things like, "This is the first time I've taken steps without feeling pain in my knees." And as you can imagine, as a physical therapist of 25 years, it's certainly rewarding to hear that because this is an area that's always been a missing piece for us
Mike Roth:And, from my perspective, this is a internal body repair, as opposed to stem cells, which are injections, or cortisone injections in knees, and other regenerative medicine- Devices. This is all the body making- adjustments based on a new foot contact with the ground.
Chris Raesly:That's exactly right. It's a non-surgical approach. Healthcare is going to a very personalized approach. They call it N of one a- approach, meaning the the intervention is very specific to that individual patient, and this is no different than that. This gets very specific to the patient. It is non-invasive, non-surgical. We do have patients that have gotten injections in their knees. There's an, a series of things that, that can be tried prior to that knee replacement, but this is a completely non-me- it's non-pharmacological, non-invasive approach to addressing knee pain.
Mike Roth:Now why is th- this gait or the way we walk so important as we age?
Chris Raesly:Yeah.
Mike Roth:'cause if you watch, little babies learning how to walk they walk in a very funny way-
Chris Raesly:Yeah
Mike Roth:but as we age, d- does the way we walk change?
Chris Raesly:It sure does, and those changes will happen very slowly over time to the extent that we don't know that they're changing in a lot of cases. As trained therapists, we pick up on things. We can't help but walk down the road, and we look at people, and we can predict what's going on with how they're moving. But things like arthritis set in, injuries in the past where our bodies will compensate around areas that are maybe damaged.
Mike Roth:I'm kinda laughing 'cause it's causing injures, injuries from pickleball
Chris Raesly:It is.
Mike Roth:Falls in pickleball is a- It is … sometimes even a fatal condition. Chris, what excites you the most about being in the gait improvement business today?
Chris Raesly:It's really where the technology is going, and we touched on that a little bit just a few moments ago, where we have that ability to not… To get very specific to that individual patient. Again, we're moving this mod sometimes a millimeter one direction or another, and that's what's changing that force that's passing th-
Mike Roth:It's almost like a Slinky.
Chris Raesly:Yeah, and unweighting that pain. So the integration of technology- … specific to that individual patient to meet their needs so that they can continue to do all the things that they need to and want to do. They say movement is medicine is what we hear people say.
Mike Roth:Keeping your body in shape, exercising, and walking is one of the best- exercises, if you can make people more comfortable in walking, it's a wonderful thing. And if you can avoid knee surgeries, that's fantastic. So many people I've heard have had knee surgeries and still had pain afterwards.
Chris Raesly:And that's actually a great point, and one that that we haven't touched on yet, is there's a million knee replacements that happen every single year.
Mike Roth:A million.
Chris Raesly:And what the doctor, the surgeon, will tell patients is that despite a perfect surgery, and we've got some great orthopedic surgeons around here, the implant is imperfect. Everything that … They've done their job, but about 20%, 15 to 20%, the literature shows, of patients that get a knee replacement still have moderate to severe pain in their knees. And why is that? The the knee pain is, occurs from more than just what's going on right in the knee . We are, again, that kinetic chain. There's a lot going on in the hip. There's a lot going on in the foot . So we're more than just a knee. So it would be, going back to the car analogy, that doctor, let's say in that case, gave you new tires. They did that alignment and balance. They did their job, and they did it really well. But us as people, we're still driving that car crazy down the road, getting us in back into the same problem we had.
Mike Roth:Or putting the wheels back in alignment- Hey … causes the engine mounts to fail.
Chris Raesly:Okay, so- So what we do is really change how those forces pass up through that entire body, to untrain all those old gait patterns, and then get the most out of that new knee replacement. So that's actually our new next clinical trial is specifically we're recruiting patients right now that have had a knee replacement and still have pain six months or greater after that knee replacement.
Mike Roth:Good. So how do they contact you if they hear this podcast?
Chris Raesly:Yep. So scimotech.com is a great way to get to our web- Spell it out slowly. So it's S-C-I-M-O-T-E-C-H, short for Scientific Motion Technologies. Our website's a great resource.
Mike Roth:Scimotech.com.. Chris Raesly: com. Mike Roth: com. And the phone number if they wanted to talk to you to figure out whether they should have a appointment.
Chris Raesly:It's 4-0-7-7-8-9-3-2-2-7
Mike Roth:Good. Chris, that you wanna add into this podcast?… Chris Raesly: If a patient categories, and pain in their knee to any extent is limiting their ability to engage socially and physically, that they just give us a call, and we can answer any specific questions that they have, and to see if this is something that truly is something that might work for them. And we'd be happy to answer any of those questions. What impresses me is it's a non-invasive process, that if it works, saves people from having to undergo a knee replacement surgery.
Chris Raesly:That's exactly right.
Mike Roth:Great. Hey, thanks for being on the show today, Chris.
Chris ai:Thanks for having me.
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