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The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast
Birth trauma is the dark and sometimes scary side of pregnancy & postpartum that no one wants to talk about. But, we're here to change that! I'm Kayleigh, a licensed therapist and birth trauma survivor, determined to bring birth trauma out of the shadows and into the light. When we talk about birth trauma, we take away its power and leave space for healing. Your birth trauma does not need to “happen for a reason." Birth trauma sucks and it’s okay to admit that. Join us as we navigate what it means to heal from birth trauma. You’ll hear from experts in the field as well as others who have experienced birth trauma. Storytelling and education are keys to raising awareness and better understanding how we heal trauma. We don’t do toxic positivity in this space, but you’ll definitely hear some dark humor. You’ll laugh and you’ll cry, but, most importantly, you’ll learn that you’re not alone and that healing is possible. Birth trauma is bullish*it, but your healing is not.
The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast
Ep. 211: Ethics in The Birth Room
What happens when something doesn’t feel right during labor or birth, but you don’t know what to do, who to call, or even what to name it?
In this eye-opening episode of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast, Kayleigh is joined by Dr. Jennifer Dunatov, a healthcare ethicist with nearly 20 years of experience working inside hospital systems. Together, they unpack what ethics really looks like in labor and delivery and why it’s a vastly underutilized (but incredibly important) resource for birthing people, families, doulas, and clinicians.
Dr. Dunatov shares how becoming a mother herself transformed her work, leading her to focus on birth ethics after hearing countless stories of consent violations, loss of autonomy, and traumatic care. She explains what clinical ethicists actually do, how ethics consults work in real time, and how they can help amplify patient voices even when something has already gone wrong.
This episode is essential listening for anyone who has experienced birth trauma, is preparing to give birth, or works in maternity care.
In this episode, we discuss:
- What healthcare ethics actually is (and why it’s not boring 😉)
- How ethics shows up in labor & delivery and why it’s often invisible
- Common ethical violations in birth, including lack of consent and shared decision-making
- The difference between ethics consults and patient advocacy services
- Whether ethics can be involved after a traumatic or harmful birth experience
- How fear of liability influences provider decision-making
- Why documentation in medical charts matters more than you think
- How ethics consults can lead to accountability and systemic change not just “checking a box”
- Who can request an ethics consult (hint: anyone)
- Exactly what to say if you want to request an ethics consult in the hospital
- Why you don’t need the “right language” to advocate for yourself, your gut is enough
Key takeaway:
If something doesn’t feel right during your care, you are allowed to say so and there are people inside the system whose job is to listen, name the issue, and advocate with you.
Resources & Guest Info:
Dr. Jennifer Dunatov
Healthcare Ethicist | Birth Ethics Advocate
- Instagram: @notraumamama (transitioning to @jenniferdunatov)
- Website: jenniferdunatov.com or notraumamama.com
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