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E25 - Religion, Bears, and Murder Googling

January 31, 2023 Subpar Talks
E25 - Religion, Bears, and Murder Googling
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Another good round of topics this week. First, religious hucksters. Then we look at bear attacks. Chris gets a clearer picture of how long his dead body would go undiscovered. And finally, we’ll tell you what you definitely shouldn’t Google before you commit a murder. 

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Another good round of topics this week. First, religious hucksters. Then we look at bear attacks. Chris gets a clearer picture of how long his dead body would go undiscovered. And finally, we’ll tell you what you definitely shouldn’t Google before you commit a murder. 

 Hosted by Chris and Jeff

 

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Jeff:

This week, religious talk, bear attacks and what not to Google before you commit a. Welcome to Subpar Talks. Hey everybody. Welcome to Subpar Talks, where we have conversations about everything. I'm Jeff. And I'm Chris. Thank you for joining us for another episode. And you know what's coming, our standard disclaimer, there will be profanity in this podcast, perhaps a lot of it, and depending on the episode, we're gonna discuss some mature subject matter and we inject humor into all of this stuff. So if that is not your thing, then perhaps we are not for you, but for everybody else, put your feet up, grab your favorite beverage. What else is there to do? Get your edibles light up, whatever you're gonna do, because here we go with this week's topics. All right, so we have a bunch of different topics this week, and honestly, we've got a few that we know we're gonna talk about. But if you've listened to this podcast long enough, you know that our brains can move in 50 different directions. At some point, so we will probably jump to some things that we don't even know about yet. But Chris, you had something right off the bat that you wanted to talk about, so fire away.

Chris:

Yeah, so I recently had a conversation with someone who is a affiliated with a religious denomination. I'm not going to name names here. Um, essentially what struck me out of all of it was the business nature of this particular church. And, you know, religion is something that we can certainly get into deeper in other, uh, other episodes. And again, who knows where this is gonna go, but one of the things that is just a fact, The US is that religious organizations are exempt from paying taxes, and that is just by the fact that they are a religious organization, nevermind what that religious organization may be doing. And in this particular case, um, I heard that, you know, they have a, a massive campus. In the middle of a major city. So clearly that's going to cost quite a chunk of money. Um, they sell a lot of materials, CDs, DVDs, other, uh, resource materials like that. And really the biggest thing that stuck out to me was describing that their relationship, and this is from kind of the, the central hub of. This organization that to their member churches, they said that they behave very much like a franchise model. Well, to me, saying that it's a franchise model, conjuress up the idea of, you know, these, uh, member churches paying certain. If you want to call it fees, percentages, at least percentages of something to that kind of central agency. Now, that is a common thing with, with several different denominations, um, where, you know, if they're affiliated with a larger body, um, That they may pay into that larger body too. So almost kind of like they're acting on behalf of all of those member churches. But the, but the whole thing about this is it is just baffling to me that they're all exempt from paying taxes regardless of the massive, massive business models that they have, and yet an individual person, Can be barely scraping by as a sole proprietor, and they can get taxed

Jeff:

like crazy as long as you call it a religion. And I don't know what the requirements are of that, but yeah, you can be tax exempt. Now, help me understand this. What taxes are they exempt from, do you know? Well,

Chris:

income tax. I don't know about like employment taxes or things like that, but at least income

Jeff:

tax. Do they have to pay a property tax? Do you know? I don't know if they do or not. I

Chris:

don't know that, no. It wouldn't surprise me if they were exempt or at least if they're getting some kind of reduction. But I know income taxes is just a huge part of.

Jeff:

And so what about this? So let's say, I'm trying to think of, uh, any megachurch person who gets a lot of attention. Uh, Joel Austin. So let's use him as an example. So he has, I don't know how, like 20,000 people in his church. Uh, and then they've got all kinds of stuff going on on the side for sure. You know, books and who knows what else. So they, the church itself does not have to pay an income tax. Does Joel Austin have to pay tax on what he is paid by the church? I would think he

Chris:

would, because he Okay. Would just be an employee of the church. It's

Jeff:

the, the church wouldn't have. Maybe it's me and maybe you're like this, but if I was rolling, if I was looking for a particular religion, would that not turn me, turn you off to, like I've seen, uh, do you know who Kenneth Copeland is? Creepy, creepy preacher, televangelist type. I don't know the

Chris:

name. It may be who I'm picturing.

Jeff:

Okay. But they talk about their private jets and their houses and stuff. And if I was looking for a religion for various reasons that people look to belong to a particular religion, that would turn me off. Like I would just get out and walk out, like I'm barely scraping by. And this huckster up here on stage is talking about his jets and his multiple houses. I'm out like, Millions of people buy into that stuff. It, it, it is crazy. And they're leaching off the system because they're not paying any taxes into it. And as you said, so much of it operates exactly like a business. Yeah. Have you ever seen any videos of the, uh, snake handling people, those churches?

Chris:

Yes. Yeah. That's some crazy

Jeff:

stuff right there. That is, it is off the charts crazy. So if people don't know what this is about, there are, it's mostly in the south. Big surprise, There's a, there's a verse in the Bible that says, I don't know who, who it's talking about, but says they can take up serpents and they won't get harmed, or something along those lines. And this group is like any other religious groups throughout history. They take one particular passage in their religious texts and they just run with it. Like that becomes their thing. So these churches in rural places, again, mostly in the south, they, they will handle. Venomous snakes like rattlesnakes and copperheads and whatever else, and the belief is God will protect him from getting bitten. But if you do get bitten, you don't, you're not supposed to go to the hospital and receive any kind of treatment. You just pray hard enough and God will bring you through. And if, if he doesn't, well that's on you because your faith wasn't strong enough. It's a big fuck you if you die

Chris:

Well, and I, I saw something on, on those people a while back where one guy had lost his finger. You know, the others have deformed hand. One guy's dad died. But, but see, here's the thing. If that happens, there's an excuse.

Jeff:

Yes, always an excuse.

Chris:

If it were someone else, then sure it was lack of faith, but if it's you or your dad or somebody, then it's that. That's not a lack of faith. I don't know what the excuse is, but it's never looked at as, oh, well we thought he was a godly man, but now we know better

Jeff:

I show my students a news clip of that guy who ended up dying that that pastor at that church, uh, because I'm, and I show it to my students when we're talking about the First Amendment, freedom of religion and all that. And, and you are free to practice your religion as long as it does not endanger anybody. And so that obviously endangers people, especially when you have kids. you know, in the church. Mm-hmm. So they're, they're not technically allowed to do that under the law, but they continue to to, to do it. And you can own venomous snakes, but you have to go through a ton of paperwork and pay a bunch of money to be able to do it. I think that's true in most states. Well, and if

Chris:

you're doing that in a church setting, then it's obviously publicized, so I guess you would have to do. but then how many people are doing it privately and no one knows and right, and that's just

Jeff:

insane. Yeah, it's really messed up. Do you remember, this has been probably four or five years ago, but I followed this on social media, so they found a guy in his car in Austin in a Home Depot parking lot, and he was dead. And he had a snake bite and there was a cage in his backseat that was open and they identify the guy and it turns out everybody who knew him said he had a pet Cobra So there was a Cobra, loose and a Home Depot parking lot in Austin. And I, I followed this on social media cuz it was hilarious to people. See people. Freaking out. You know, who are in Austin. They're like, is it close to me? Where was this? How do I know? Mm-hmm. like, what, how, what do cobras do? Like what? It was funny, but they found it dead in the parking lot, like several hours later. They, they located it. Oh, really? They think it was suicide by Cobra. Like, like this guy wanted out, so he went out with a bang. Just let the cobra bite him. That's it.

Chris:

See, it amazes me the way people choose to commit suicide. There's one right there. Why do you want to let a snake bite you? And then what? You're gonna have to wait for it to take effect.

Jeff:

That seems horrible.

Chris:

Yeah. And people that take pills like, oh my gosh, I can't, Ima, no matter how much I wanted to die, I can't imagine. Wanting to die that badly and then having to sit there and wait like, okay, I just took the whole bottle. Now how long is this gonna take? And, and how many people start to have second thoughts then?

Jeff:

A lot of people,

Chris:

the only, I mean, I always put it out there, the only way that I could imagine killing myself would be shooting myself or. Maybe drive my car, you know, a hundred miles an hour into a tree or a telephone pole. It's gotta be something that is more or less sure fire and instantaneous. And actually it'd be horrible to survive that car accident. So I think I'd have to shoot

Jeff:

myself every time I see something on a show or movie or what about whatever, about somebody hanging themselves. My thought is always, I wouldn't even know how to make a noose. I don't even know how to do that. Like what? I'm such an idiot when it comes to knots and things like that. Like that's totally off the table for me. If I were of that mind, yeah, I wouldn't know

Chris:

either. But see, that could go in your favor cuz if you did it wrong, then you're just gonna fall right out of the knot.

Jeff:

Well, you know, they say like, people who attempt it and fail, they almost never try it again. Like it scares'em straight or they get the help they need or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Hey, is it still called suicide? If you accidentally kill yourself, it's an

Chris:

accidental suicide. I've

Jeff:

heard that. So with suicide, you just, you have to have the intent of killing yourself. Well, I don't know

Chris:

the, the, the literal definition of suicide is killing yourself, self killing. So yeah, I guess accidental is just the adjective further. It's further describing the type of suicide. It was accidental, I guess so as opposed to intentional. But you still did it.

Jeff:

Speaking of death, did you, I saw this a couple of days ago. There's some remote village in Canada where a polar bear killed a woman and a boy. It chased him down. Whoa. Really? I was hungry. Yeah. Isn't that nuts? Well, yeah, definitely hungry. But they say because of climate change and the warming of the planet, like a lot of the ice is melting in the Arctic. So polar bears are moving south. And I guess it's no surprise when you consider that. Why is that

Chris:

gonna drive them south though? Isn't that the

Jeff:

wrong direct? Moving south. Yeah. Yeah. But they're losing ice, so they need actual land. But if you're at the North Pole, you're gonna be going south regardless of which direction you grew. this blow. Okay, this blows my mind. I'll get back to the polar bear attack in a second. I what I'm about to say. I understand it. but it still messes with my head. If you were to walk, say where you are right now, and you were to start walking to the North Pole, and you get to the North Pole, you keep walking that direction, you were going north, but then when you hit the North Pole and you keep walking, you're going south. If you were to leave from where you are right now and start walking East, And just keep walking. If you could walk around the world, you're still mm-hmm. You are forever walking east. You never end up walking west Right. Yeah. So I get it kind of freaky, but it, it messes with my head. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so this was in Alaska. I thought this was in Canada, it was Alaska. It's kind of the same thing, but anyway. Okay. That's really messed up. So,

Chris:

I just saw the story a couple of days ago that in, there's a town in Siberia that is known as the coldest place, not, not the coldest that it ever gets on earth, because I know in the Antarctic it's been, you know, negative 80, negative 90, maybe negative a hundred. I don't know. It gets in that range. but as far as an inhabited town, this was the coldest and coldest place. It's in Siberia and it was negative 50, and it's a town of like a million people. I say town like a million people. Why don't they leave? I don't know. That's where the polar bear needs to go.

Jeff:

Yeah, no kidding. So this is from cnn. Uh, reports of polar bear attacks on humans are extremely rare. A 2017 study published by the Wildlife Society found from 1870 to 2014, they documented 73 attacks by polar bears, which resulted in 20 human fatalities and 63 human injuries. Wait a second. That means there were 10 attacks where the human wasn't injured. How do you get attacked by a polar bear and you're not hurt? I don't know.

Chris:

I think that would

Jeff:

be a given. I would too. Um, but melting ice due to climate change has led to a corresponding change in bear behavior and made human encounters with bears more likely. Wow. Well, and they're massive. I think they're bigger than grizzly bears.

Chris:

They are. They're, they're huge. And the sad thing is they look so soft and cuddly and like you just want to, you know, play with them and they'll they wanna play with you too. right?

Jeff:

Yeah, yeah. Decapitate you and use your head like a ball. It's kind of like pandas. Pandas look all cute and cuddly, but they'll mess you up too. Whoa.

Chris:

Mess you up. Look at their paws, their claws. Yeah. Their, well, Sam, with the polar bear, they're

Jeff:

massive. Do you remember hearing this? I don't remember, uh, where this was, but there's always a worry about the panda population going extinct, and so they mm-hmm. they try to encourage panasas to. They try to encourage pandas to mate in captivity, but a lot of times they won't, don't want to do that because they're locked up. It's like, you know, they're being watched. It's not natural. Yeah. They're being watched. So, uh, where was this? This has been several years ago, but they, they would show the panda's images on a screen of. Panda's having sex. It was like panda porn. Like this is supposed to

Chris:

pornography.

Jeff:

supposed to get you in the mood and start procreating. Does it work? I don't know if it worked or not. That's crazy.

Chris:

But why don't, I mean, okay, in captivity, but can't they make a natural enough habitat even in captivity where they would want to,

Jeff:

how do they not want to? I would think. Remember when George was upset that his girlfriend had a male roommate? Yeah. And he says, you know how they get, they get animals to have sex. They just lock'em up, just put'em together.

Chris:

Yeah. They probably just look at each other and say, well, what the hell else are we gonna do?

Jeff:

Exactly what else is there to do You wanna have sex right now? Do you wanna I was about to say that. Yeah. So anyway, I'd beware of, uh, polar bears, I guess if you're in Alaska or Canada or anywhere where it's cold. Well, they've got

Chris:

grizzlies too. Or the Kodiak too. Oh yeah. Chased them. That is if a bear were chasing me. I would have a heart attack. I know that there, how could you not? How could you not be well

Jeff:

scared outta your mind? I don't know. I, yeah, I'd be terrified and so I would probably run, but you're not gonna make it like they could just trot faster than you can run. So you're fucked. And. You can't climb a tree. That's not a solution cuz it can climb better than you can. So, and it can swim.

Chris:

Yeah.

Jeff:

Yeah. And polar bears are good swimmers. They dive and all that like Yeah, you're fucked. Bears are freaky. Yeah. It's over. Yeah. So this has been, uh, a few years ago. My family and I were in the great Smokey Mountains, the national park we were in. It's in, well, I think it might run into Western North Carolina, but we were in eastern Tennessee and mm-hmm. we, uh, stopped at a place and there was a sign before we got on this little trail. and the sign was giving you instructions. If you see a bear and these are black bears in this area, if you see a bear, here's what you should do. And I pointed that out to my kids just to say, haha, like, like we would ever see a bear. That's not gonna happen. And I swear like a hundred yards into the trail, there was a black. Really, it was a little alarming because, uh, she had cubs with her, so Oh yeah. We were really quiet. Yeah. And there were other people there, which made me feel better. If it had just been us, I would've probably had a panic attack. But there were other people there and everybody was being quiet, and I was like, okay, let's slowly back up and get the hell out of here.

Chris:

I saw a video recently of someone who was walking on a trail, came across and it was a, it was a pretty sizable bear. I don't remember what kind it was, but it kept coming after them, not running, but they stopped. They just started walking backwards and calmly walking backwards. But then they made noises at the bear to try to scare it off and. It followed them for like, I think it was like half, half a mile, a mile. I mean, the video was cut. Oh my God. But they were saying it just kept coming and they thought that there were cubs around there like that. They must have come across, uh, a little den, you know, off of the trail and, whoa. That mom was not happy with them, and it followed and followed. They finally found a big rock and threw it toward it, and it scared off. Ran

Jeff:

the other way. See, with that kind of stuff, I'd be scared. I'm just gonna piss it off more than It's already pissed. Yeah. Doesn't make it matter. Exactly.

Chris:

But what are you gonna do at that point? Because it wasn't letting up. I mean, you think if you're walking backwards. Trying to show it in every way that you're not a threat. It wasn't

Jeff:

leaving him alone. Scary. Yeah. Do you know about, I don't know what this documentary's called, uh, grizzly man, I think, I think it might be what it's called. It was about this guy who would live among the grizzly bears in Alaska and. Big surprise. He ended up getting attacked and killed but he would video this stuff and I think it's called Grizzly Man. Mm-hmm. something like that. I'm fascinated

Chris:

by those things, but yeah, I that, that's a totally different kind of person

Jeff:

right there. Well, I think it boils down to they're just not that bright. Like why do you want to do that? You're playing with. Yeah,

Chris:

I don't know. I guess they're, they're more interested in what they can get out of it for as long as they can get it and hey, yeah, I recognize the danger and if it kills me, oh, well I died doing what I was enjoying.

Jeff:

Do you remember last week I talked about the professor at that university in Minnesota? Who was teaching the art history course, and she had a warning in her syllabus that she was gonna show religious figures. And she warned them before she showed two images of Muhammad, that the students did not have to look at it, that they could leave the class. And she showed the two images of Muhammad and a student complained and the professor was fired. Right. Which is ridiculous. I mean, we talked about. In last week's episode, but it's absurd that she was fired over that and they called it Islamophobic and all that. Um, I read today, maybe yesterday that they have reversed course on that because she sued. I didn't know she sued, but she sued for wrongful termination, which she absolutely should have. So they've reversed course, and I don't know if they're gonna let her. I don't know what the remedy there is. I don't know if they're gonna let her teach or what, but they should. But that was absolutely. Insane what happened to her. It really is

Chris:

that, that's crazy.

Jeff:

As a professor, I do not want to have to worry about what I'm showing my students if it has actual value and can help them learn something. I don't want to have to worry about somebody in administration or whatever coming down on me and saying, That's inappropriate. We don't allow that or whatever like that. That should not be a concern of people teaching college classes. That's different maybe if you're in high school or lower, but not in a college environment. I mean, come on.

Chris:

Exactly. Yeah. College, you're, you're speaking to adults. Yeah. And if, if they don't like it, they can. Yeah, just leave class. Do you think there should be any difference there between whether that's a public college

Jeff:

or a private college? Yeah, I think there might be a difference there because private schools are gonna have more leeway in what they allow and don't allow like First Amendment type stuff. Um, but this was a public university as far as I. So, yeah, but that is a factor. So while

Chris:

you're on the topic of, uh, a follow up on that, I have a couple of follow ups. These are kind of lighthearted, I think referring back to, I think this was in a couple of different, I know it was in a couple of different episodes. Um, one of those was right around the end of the year. We were talking about, um, jury duty, and I can't remember why. I think it was in our, our murder case episode. Where the, the guy killed his

Jeff:

girlfriend. Yeah, yeah. Mel Nado. Yeah.

Chris:

Yeah. So I think that was the one where we were talking about being on juries, and I said, yeah, I've been on a jury before. We talked through that, and I haven't been called for jury duty in a while. And then I said, I'll probably get a summons tomorrow now. Mm-hmm. Well, sure enough, within that week, I swear, within the week I got called for jury.

Jeff:

You shouldn't have said that. You jinxed it. I sure should not have. Yeah, you jinxed it. So fortunately

Chris:

I was actually released ahead of time and thankfully I saw this, so I got the summons. I just set it aside because I saw, okay, you're of jury duty this date, this time. I just thought, all right, be there. And I just set it aside, put it on my calendar. All right. Gotta do jury duty. Told work. Gotta take the day off for this and that morning. I was getting ready to go and just thought, well, I'll look at the card again to verify, you know, make sure I was right about the time, the place, all of that. And it said on there that you have to go online, fill out this information and all that, and if you don't, you wouldn't get credit for even showing up. This is like, well, shit, I want my credit for showing up. Yeah. So I get online and I fill it all out, and after I finish filling it out, it says, Completed. Like they didn't need me. Now that I filled all of that out. Well, my service was supposed to be, it was on a Tuesday. Mm-hmm. And I thought and hoped that that was working in my favor. Um, that maybe people who showed up on Monday, they picked enough people and didn't need the ones for later, you know, later in the week. Right. You never know. and I'm not, I'm not like an a complete anti jury person. It was just not the best time for me. Yeah. I did not want to have to deal with getting on a jury. You know, my daughter says, Ooh, maybe you'll get on a murder trial. I said, that is the last thing that I need.

Jeff:

What if you got on a murder trial and you had to be sequestered? You were in a, a, a hotel room for like three or four weeks. My gosh.

Chris:

I. Well, it would be rough because it probably wouldn't even be a good

Jeff:

hotel right. Motel

Chris:

six and, and what would that even be like? Because all right, you're in a hotel, but what You can't have internet access? You, I, I don't know. Can, you can't even watch tv. I bet.

Jeff:

I don't know how that works, and I don't know how common it is. I don't know. How about this? So we have the death penalty in Texas. What if you got called to a case as a juror and it was a death penalty case? Because to be put on a death penalty jury, you have to tell them that you could sentence somebody to death if you felt like it was warranted. Like they won't put anybody on a death penalty jury if they say no. I could never. I could never give somebody. Mm-hmm. the death penalty. Well, that's your way out right there. If you don't wanna be on the show, definitely. But see, uh, so I don't think I could, I I I wouldn't be one of those who said, yeah, I could, if the circumstances were right. And listen to our botched executions episode to hear my reasons why. But wouldn't it be cool to be on a murder jury, uh, with a murder case? I, I don't know if cool is the right word.

Chris:

Yeah. Well, it would definitely be interesting and I would want to think that it, that there would be a, I don't know what you want to call it. I, if you feel like you are helping society somehow, either that you are taking this person out of society that is a threat, or let's free the wrongly accused, whatever. Yeah. You would want to think that you're doing good one way or another. I would also be concerned about everybody else that's on that jury with me is I, I don't know. Is everyone going to be of that mindset? Yeah. And you know, you think about the movie 12 Angry Men. Mm-hmm. and, you know, 11 of them just had their mind made up and they're ready to get out of there. and actually getting mad at the other, at the guy who was saying, oh, wait a minute. So, uh, that, that would be a lot, a lot

Jeff:

of pressure. Definitely. So, speaking of murder, I don't know if you've been following this, I just learned about this a couple of days ago. There's a guy in, uh, it's not in Boston, it's, uh, suburb or Boston. His name is Brian Walsh. His wife Anna went missing. Mm-hmm. and uh, he has now been arrested, but I just saw this today at his arraignment, the prosecutor was reading an affidavit which contained among other things, his Google searches. These are great. Oh. This guy is not the brightest bulb for sure. Okay. On December, the, so she went missing, uh, the last she was seen was like the early morning hours of January 1st. So New Year's day. So basically New Year's Eve is the last time anybody saw her. Mm-hmm. on December the 27th, he googled what's the best state to divorce for a man. And then on January 1st, he ramps it up a little bit. I'm just gonna read these off At 4:55 AM he Googled how long before a body starts to smell three minutes later, how to stop a body from decomposing about an hour later. 10 ways to dispose of a dead body if you really need to. Oh my gosh, 45 minutes later. How long for someone to be missing to inherit? Um, few minutes later. Can you throw away body parts three hours later? What does formaldehyde do about five minutes later? How long does DNA last? Can you believe this guy? No. What an idiot. Yeah, big. About 20 minutes later, can identification be made on partial remains about an hour and a half later dismemberment and the best ways to dispose of a body. So he's circled back around now he's How do I dispose of it? Yeah. Uh, 11:44 AM on that same day, how to clean blood from a wooden floor. About 10 minutes later, luminol to detect blood. A couple hours later, what happens when you put body parts in ammonia? And then he topped it all off with, is it better to put crime scene clothes away or wash them? My gosh.

Chris:

How about burn them

Jeff:

There's just a few more. These are too good. Naza read the next day at 1245 in the afternoon. He googled hacksaw best tool to dismember and then. Few minutes later, can you be charged with murder without a body? Few minutes later, can you identify a body with broken teeth? And then the next day, what happens to hair on a dead body? What is the rate of decomposition of a b decomposition of a body found in a plastic bag compared to on a surface in the woods? And then finally, can baking soda mask or make a body smell good?

Chris:

Holy shit. What

Jeff:

a moron. He is a, a massive idiot. So what do you do if you are his attorney? Make a deal. You make a deal. But what if he says, no, I don't want a deal. I want to go to trial. How do you even try to explain that away? You can't. You're fucked. You're your client. Yeah. He's fucked. Like he's going to prison. I

Chris:

forever, I think. Yeah. I mean, I, I think you would have. Prosecution's gonna really need a motive. Wait, do they have the body, did they find

Jeff:

her? Uh, I think so. So they figured out that, that, uh, he, he did cut her up and he put her in, uh, like sewers all throughout the Boston area.

Chris:

I mean, it would be ideal if they had a motive. If they don't have a motive, then his attorney's gonna have a little. Easier time. It's like, Hey, anybody could be Googling these things. Yeah. And it's coincidental that she happened to have gone missing, and there is no proof that he did it. I'm just saying, if I were that attorney, those are the kinds of things I'd be looking at, but I'd be, I'd want my money up front, I'll

Jeff:

tell you that. No doubt. Yeah. I remember in law school, My professor in the criminal law course, that was one of the first things he told us. He said, if you're gonna get out and practice criminal law, remember this, get your money upfront. Because once somebody's in jail, like what incentive do they have to make sure you get your money? None. Yeah, exactly. So that guy's going away for a long time. Long, long time. It's like Darren.

Chris:

Yeah.

Jeff:

So the,

Chris:

the one other thing that I had as an update mm-hmm. was, uh, wondering how long it would be before I was found if I died. Oh yeah. You know, if I died alone, how long is it gonna be? Yeah. And, uh, I, I have partial answer. So, uh, Uh, typically on the weekend I will set, so we use Microsoft teams at my job. Mm-hmm. And so typically on the weekend I will set myself, uh, either as offline or away. And then that way if I am doing anything on my computer over the weekend, Somebody isn't seeing me online, then hey, let me ask you a question, whatever. So I just appear away or offline even if I am actually on the computer. Well, this is not the only time this has happened, but it's the only time that it's happened for the majority of the day is that I forgot to change it back on Monday. Mm-hmm. Um, and so for. Almost all of that day I was showing as either away or offline. And in fact, I was working all day, but I did not, this is very odd. I did not have any calls, meetings that day. Mm-hmm. and the next day, I caught it right toward the end of the day, and so I switched it to showing I was online. It's like, wow, I can't believe I forgot that. The next day, next morning, I get on a call with, uh, my boss and one other person, and he goes, oh, so you are gonna join us today? And I was like, what do you mean? He said, well, you were out all day yesterday. I said, no, I wasn't. I was actually working. But I had just forgotten to change my status. Yeah. Now that you say that, this just lets me know that I was supposed to be working. I was in fact working, but you think I wasn't working, so why didn't anybody check on me?

Jeff:

Nobody checked on you at all. I'm

Chris:

supposed to be working and nobody says, oh, he hasn't bothered to show up today. Yeah, I mean, this is remote work, so. It's not like somebody is physically looking for me. My physical presence is whether I'm online or not. And there I did not show up online for a whole day and

Jeff:

nobody says anything, Nothing at all. Well, it gives you a bit of a clearer picture. It does. So

Chris:

now that was a Monday, so I would've had my daughter that night. So, Somebody would've figured it out by the knock

Jeff:

There's an onion article. I love the Onion. The headline I, I didn't read the actual article, but the headline is, loyal Dog Waits a Full Two Hours Before Devouring Dead Owner's Face All right, there you go. That is another episode of Subpar Talks. If you like this kind of stuff, then you should absolutely follow us. Subscribe, whatever platform you listen to podcast on, we would love for you to do that. And while you're there, go ahead and rate us. We would be ever so grateful if you'd give us five stars and while you're there, put something in the review. It doesn't matter what you say, but the way these things work is if you put something there, it makes it easier for people to discover this show. So go, go ahead and write anything. Doesn't matter what it is, we're gonna read it. And. You can go to our website, that is Subpar Talks dot com. There, you can email us, you can leave us a voicemail. We always read emails from our listeners, our hordes of listeners, and we would love to hear a voicemail from you. Uh, say whatever. It doesn't matter what you say, we're gonna, uh, listen to it or. And you can follow us on social media. We would like that on Twitter. We are at Subpar Talks on Facebook. We are Subpar Talks. If you wanna follow our personal Twitter accounts and encounter our vast wisdom that we, uh, protrude on social media, protrude I am on Twitter. I am at@independentjeff and I

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