This week, it’s a topic shotgun blast. We discuss Trump’s indictment, prison escapes, air travel, train travel, amusement park rides, Chris’s nightmare problem, Richard Pryor, and something strange happened in Florida (big surprise). And last, but possibly the most important topic—which way do you stir your drink?
1. Topics
2. Additional Resources
3. Merchandise/Support the Show
4. Contact Us/Follow Us/Rate/Subscribe
New episodes every week!
Listen, rate, follow, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts!
Follow us:
5. Credits
This week, it’s a topic shotgun blast. We discuss Trump’s indictment, prison escapes, air travel, train travel, amusement park rides, Chris’s nightmare problem, Richard Pryor, and something strange happened in Florida (big surprise). And last, but possibly the most important topic—which way do you stir your drink?
1. Topics
2. Additional Resources
3. Merchandise/Support the Show
4. Contact Us/Follow Us/Rate/Subscribe
New episodes every week!
Listen, rate, follow, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts!
Follow us:
5. Credits
This week, Trump's indictment, prison escapes, air travel and train travel, amusement park rides, Chris's funny nightmares, Richard Pryor, how do you stir, and Florida is at it again. So many topics! Welcome to Subpar Talks. Hey everybody. Welcome to Subpar Talks where we have conversations about everything. I'm Jeff.
Chris:And I'm Chris.
Jeff:Thank you so much for joining us, and as always, of course you know what is coming, it is our standard disclaimer, listener discretion advised. There will be profanity and maybe a lot of it on this podcast. And we do sometimes touch on some mature subject matter, hot button issues, what have you. And the thing is, we inject humor into all of this stuff that we talk about. So if that's not your thing, then maybe we are not your thing. But for everybody else, buckle up because here we go with this week's topics. So this just came down right before we started recording. It's good timing, I guess, and this will be our first topic. Did you hear about the indictment? The indictment?
Chris:The indictment. I did see that. I didn't get to get into a lot of details of it, but I saw that and uh, it's a long time coming.
Jeff:It is. I don't think we really know anything yet. Um, other than there has been an indictment and I don't even think we know what the charges are. I don't think we'll know what the charge... We are, of course, talking about Trump. I don't know if either one of us mentioned that. But we are talking about Donald Trump just got indicted by the Manhattan, uh, grand jury.
Chris:First ex-president to be indicted.
Jeff:Yeah, first one.
Chris:Will there be a mugshot?
Jeff:Yeah, I think there will. I think he's gotta go through the whole thing. So, I don't know if he'll be handcuffed, but I mean, they have to follow, at least to a certain extent, the standard procedures. So they're gonna have to, I don't know if they'll put'em in handcuffs, but he's gonna have to be fingerprinted, and there'll be a mugshot, and he is gonna have to go before a judge and there will be bail, which of course he'll meet, so.
Chris:Yeah.
Jeff:I don't know.
Chris:That's awesome.
Jeff:Yeah. Isn't it?
Chris:And would they call him a flight risk? Are they gonna take his passport and stuff like that?
Jeff:That's interesting too. I don't know. How in the world could he be a flight risk. I mean, it'd be pretty funny if he had to surrender his passport, but...
Chris:Yeah.
Jeff:I, I don't know. And how does this work? So he's got Secret Service protection 24/7. So are they gonna be right there, or they have to I guess, be right there along with him?
Chris:You would think so.
Jeff:And then this is a long way off, and I have my serious doubts as to whether he'll serve any jail time, just because he seems to weasel out of everything.
Chris:Yeah.
Jeff:But, if he was imprisoned, are there Secret Service people, like right outside the...
Chris:Or did they have to get in the cell with him?
Jeff:Yeah. Bunk mates.
Chris:I have no idea. How would that work?
Jeff:I don't know. This is all unprecedented, as you said. It's the first one, so we don't know. Nobody knows.
Chris:Would it be enough to put him in solitary? I mean, look, if, if, if that were to, nevermind him, just anybody, any ex-president, they're gonna have to be protected from the general population.
Jeff:Right.
Chris:There's no question about that.
Jeff:Yeah, true.
Chris:So, as long as they're protected from the general population. I mean, I guess Secret Service would still have to be around, but how would that work?
Jeff:Can you imagine him having to work, like they're gonna assign him a job? In prison. He's gonna be mopping a floor or something. Something he's probably never done in his entire life. Exactly. Doing laundry. That'd be great. They should put him on toilet duty. Toilet duty. Yeah. He could unclog the toilets of the shit. He flushed down it all the documents. Well, this is gonna be fun to watch. Again, I have my doubts as to whether anything will come of this, and I'm not defending him by any means, but it is comparatively easy to indict somebody. It's another thing to get a conviction just because the legal standard is so different. I'm afraid it could be very disappointing in Yeah. How it actually turns out, but it's a. Yeah. And maybe one step leads to another. Who knows. True. Yeah. I mean, there are other, other things going on besides this stuff in, in Manhattan or just discovery, right? Oh, that's true. Yeah. And didn't his, so Michael Cohen was his attorney did. Mm-hmm. So he pled guilty. Was this one of the charges he pled guilty to do? You know, I don't remember. I've lost track of all that. I have to, I'm not sure. I can't remember what it was. There's been so many things flying around about all of this for so long. I, I've gotten lost. Yeah. Yeah. Same here. I wanna know how this is gonna play out politically. Like is this gonna make him a martyr among the MAGA people? You know what I mean? Yeah, that's a good point. I'm certainly afraid of protests. Yeah. I'm concerned that that protests could really get outta hand. Yeah. I mean, he's al he's already called for it before. Mm-hmm. You know, well before now. Yeah. It is a little scary. And I wonder now, you know, other people in the Republican party, uh, are, they're terrified of them. Even his political opponents, they're terrified of, you know, stepping on his toes cuz who knows what he is gonna say or you know, and drag their name through the mud and all that. Yep. I just wonder how they're gonna handle it. And so you got Ron DeSantis who's gonna run for the nomination. Is he gonna attack Trump or is he gonna play hands off? I don't know. It's gonna be interesting to watch. I don't know. It seems, yeah, I mean, he, he could just try to distance himself from it and, and not say much of anything. But at some point you would think he would want to move in for the attack, as in, Hey, is this the kind of person that we want again? Then I want to know, you know, of the people who would come out against him and certainly, depending on the way they do it and what they have to say, who's gonna show up dead, I mean, right. Right. You know, people mysteriously have heart attacks and drown in their pool and, yeah. Drown at Mar-a-Lago. Yeah. Witnesses go missing. Wouldn't surprise me a. Well, I would, if I were Stormy Daniels, I would beef up the security. Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, I don't know if he'll ever serve any kind of prison time, but it's gonna be fun to watch all this stuff unfold. Speaking of prison, did you hear the, the two guys who escaped a jail in Virginia and they caught him at an I. 10 miles away. Really? They made it a whole 10 miles, 10 miles, 10 miles away. And they found it at'em, uh, found'em in an ihop Well, they just deserved to be caught. Well, yeah. I mean, I doubt they were very bright people to begin with, but then yeah, you just escaped and then you make it 10 miles away and you sat down in a, at an ihop when there. Bulletins all over the place on the news, right. You know, uh, every police force within a hundred mile Radius knows about you. You know, they know what you look like, so what the hell are you doing? No idea. Yeah. You needed to have made it to the nearest bus station, train station and be gone. Evidently, they used a toothbrush and they, uh, somehow made a hole in, in one of. Sell walls, and then they scaled something and then made it out that way. I don't know. A toothbrush. Toothbrush and some kind of the, now the, the article I read did say that the cops were hesitant to release just all the information that they had because it's an ongoing investigation, but you also don't wanna be giving people ideas on Right. You know, how they got.
Chris:That would be some real diligence though. I tell you that
Jeff:every time I see any kind of story, like currently in the news or in the past with somebody who escaped a prison. Mm-hmm. My first thought is always, well, that sounds like too much work. I just, yeah. Well, I don't know if I could
Chris:do it. And I was just thinking of Shaw. You know, think about he had his little, whatever it was that he was digging a hole through that wall. Right? However deep. Mm-hmm. And then you talk about diligence not only crawling through the hole, but you remember he had to go through that tunnel of sewage of
Jeff:shit. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris:That's discu. I wouldn't have made it.
Jeff:I, no, I don't think I would either. I guess if you're locked up that long or in his case you stand, no chance of ever making it out, then yeah, you're pretty motivated. But that's some big time motivation.
Chris:That's true, and I, I can just be so thankful that I've never been in a position like that knock on to where I would, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Where I would even know what that feels like.
Jeff:Do you know about the, um, the guys who escaped Alcatraz back in the sixties? Do you know anything about that story? Not details, no. I don't know a ton of details. There's a, well, I know there's a movie. I think it was also a book escaped from Alcatraz. I've never mm-hmm. Read or seen the movie, uh, read the book or seen the movie, but I, it was three guys, two were brothers. And they made, uh, they made paper mache heads resembling their own faces and heads papper mache papi, it's
Chris:so pretentious.
Jeff:They made papier mache heads and, uh, and, and faces and they, uh, like stuffed clothes under the covers of their beds. Mm-hmm. So it looked like they were, it was them. And they had been planting this for months and they had somehow dug into the walls, like below the sinks in their cells. And I don't remember what else they had to do, but they made it like a life raft out of raincoats and some other material really. And yeah, and it was supposed to be four guys. One guy, something happened. I don't remember how they were making the tunnels, but whatever they were using, Um, his like dried quicker than he thought it was going to or something, and so the hole was too narrow for him to get through. Oh, but the other guys made it and nobody knows what happened to him. The FBI and everybody who's investigated, they say the most likely outcome was that they drown.
Chris:Yeah, those are also shark-infested waters.
Jeff:Shark-infested waters. And those waters are cold, cold. It doesn't matter what time of year. Time of year, they're cold and the current is swift. Yeah. So they think they probably drowned, uh, according to the guy, the fourth guy. So he cooperated with the authorities and he was never charged because of that cooperation. But he said their goal was to get to Angel Island. Which is two miles from Alcatraz. So they were trying to make it two miles, and he said they planned to steal a car and there were never any cars reported stolen. You know, around that time they found raincoats washed ashore, and they found all of their personal belongings, stuff that they had taken with them on that makeshift life raft. They found all that. So they're, they're thinking like, why would they ditch that stuff if they didn't drown?
Chris:Unless he, and they tried to put'em off course, you know, did he lie to'em and say, Hey, this is where they were planning to go, and that wasn't the
Jeff:plan at all. I didn't think about that. Well, I kind of like that. I kind of like thinking that, hey, they made it, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I could be cool. If we had some definitive evidence now that they actually did make it, that was in 19, I think it was 1962. Mm-hmm. So they would all be in their eighties, I'm guessing, maybe nineties, I don't know. I don't know how old they were then. Yeah. But I mean, hell, if they were 30 years old, born in 1932. They're gonna be 90. Yeah. 90, 91.
Chris:Yeah. Yeah. Yep. But yeah, that'll be a, a pretty good thing to do is just tell somebody, oh, we were planning to go here and that's a complete opposite direction. This is what we're gonna do. Just completely throw'em off track. Yeah. And, oh yeah, we took all this stuff with us. So you find that stuff. And they did without it. That'd be pretty
Jeff:slick. And so the, the stuff that some of these prisoners do to get out is amazing, even though they're probably not the brightest people in the world. Mm-hmm. They can come up with some ingenious ways to get out. It reminds me of students who spend so much time and effort on cheating. When they could just study, study, it'd be a lot less work. Yeah, right. It's kind of the same thing. Yeah. It really is.
Chris:Yeah. Well, and you know, the, the amount of time and effort and stress, think about stress that goes into criminal activity, you've always gotta feel like you gotta stay one step ahead of the authorities and are they after me now? And you know, every time. Can you imagine if you are actively breaking the law all the time, like you know that what you're doing and you see a cop, you hear a siren, whatever. Yeah. It's like, well, this is it. This is the time they found me. I'd be
Jeff:like, Newman, when he was the white whale in Kramer confronted him and he said,
Chris:I can't sleep at night. I'll tell you I can't sleep.
Jeff:Yeah, it'd be like. Can't imagine being paranoid looking over your shoulder and all that. Can you imagine if you were in the mafia? Like, that's exactly what I was thinking. I mean, not just the cops. You gotta worry about Yeah. It's people in, in the family,
Chris:right? It's, they say it's, it's it. What that was in Donny, Nebraska, I think was like, could be your best friend that wax you. Yep. Yeah. So who are
Jeff:you supposed to trust? I know. And you're not untouchable until you get made. Right. If you're a maid guy, then they have to have special permission to knock you off. Right.
Chris:Which still doesn't mean you're not getting knocked off.
Jeff:Right. Doesn't mean it. Yeah. Reminds me of Joe Pesci and Goodfellas. He thought he was going to get made. Yeah, and they blew his head off when he walked in the.
Chris:Yeah, he didn't make
Jeff:it. He walked in and said, oh shit. Yes.
Chris:Yep. It didn't look
Jeff:right. Nope. It's a bad moment. You know, things didn't go well for him in more than one movie. Yeah, he does kind of get fucked over, doesn't he? Yeah. That was Casino where
Chris:he had to dig his own grave and then got the
Jeff:shit beat out of him and dumped it. Um, speaking of people who escaped and we don't really know what happened. Do you know a lot about DB Cooper? I mean,
Chris:I've heard the story. I don't know a lot of details except he jumped out of the plane and disappeared. With
Jeff:money. I feel like that's something I need to look into more. Cause I'm interested, there's
some
Chris:documentary on Netflix. I just, I haven't watched it. What happened to DB Cooper or where is DB Cooper? Something like that.
Jeff:Hmm.
Chris:Okay. But yeah, I wanna watch that cuz it's, it's, uh, a pretty fascinating thing too. All I know there, he jumped out of a plane with money disappeared. Like how does
Jeff:that happen? I don't know. And this was, what year was it? It was in the seventies, but I don't know what year. Okay. I
Chris:was wondering if it was sixties, but if it was seventies it had to be early 70. 71.
Jeff:Yeah. Cuz you used to be able to plane travel. You used to be like train travel in this regard. You could walk onto a plane. And visit with somebody who was about to leave and like, and then they would say like, okay, if you're not, you know, yeah, you have to the flight, then you need to exit. You must go. You
Chris:must go now. Yeah.
Jeff:It just blows my mind. It used to be that easy. Yeah. So
Chris:that's, I don't even know how that worked because even if. I mean, obviously anybody used to be able to go through security. Mm-hmm. Which could get you to the gate, but then in order to get on the plane, you would've had to show a ticket to, to, well, to stay on the plane. But that's just it. If other people could go on the plane, even without a ticket, how do they then determine who's supposed to stay there and, and not,
Jeff:I don't know. Because if
Chris:there were, I mean, if the, if the flight's full, then obviously somebody who's not supposed to be there isn't gonna have a place to sit. Right. But if it's not a full flight, what keeps you from just sitting in an empty seat and they don't
Jeff:know? I don't know. I mean, uh, on a train, you know, they'll, they'll, somebody will come by and you have to show your ticket eventually, but it's not like you're making several stops in a plane. Like, no. How does that work under the threat of arrest, I guess? I don't know.
Chris:Right. Well, and the thing about a train too, that's so strange to me. The train just goes when it's time for it to go and the conductor person will come through while the train is going to check tickets.
Jeff:Yeah.
Chris:So what happens if you're on it
Jeff:and you don't have a ticket? Uh, I don't know. They throw you off at the next stop. Do they arrest you? I don't
Chris:know. I've always wondered what happens if you're there and you're not supposed to be. But I, I think it's frightening that there's not any more security around train travel than there
Jeff:is. I've thought about that before and all. It's gonna take some big terrorist. At some major train station somewhere and we're all gonna be walking through metal detectors to get on trains. Yeah. I mean, it's gonna happen. Well,
Chris:and I hate to say this, you know, to, to put it out there, but it's not like this is an original thought. You know, terrorist, people have thought of this. How has it not happened?
Jeff:I don't know. It's a good question.
Chris:But yeah, the last time I rode on a train was. Three, and I'm not, I'm tugging train. Train, not like a mm-hmm. Subway or a monorail. Yeah. But was three plus years ago. Mm-hmm. I walked in the train station, got in line, walked onto the train with a back. Right. So there's no checking of the bag. There's no checking of the person. There's no even checking of, do you have a. Until the train was in motion and I was almost the last person in line, which barely made me in time for that train. I got on the train, sat down, and it took off like, wow. It, I, I was barely there. And that my point is, nobody's doing or trying to do anything prior to it, just leaving the station. Mm-hmm. Which means they have zero idea what is on that train.
Jeff:See that just kind of makes me think that we're headed the way of plane travel with train travel, cuz what you're describing now is similar to what tr what plane travel was 50 or 60 years ago. Yeah. So fast forward, you know, till after nine 11 and then. That's where we are with plane travel and Yeah. Makes sense. Yeah, that we'll be doing that with train stuff. I hope not of course, but wouldn't surprise me.
Chris:Well, it's just, it's just, well, it's surprising that we've done all of the, we've done all that we have with plane travel and didn't simultaneously implement that with train travel. I mean, think about, think about a train coming into, think about a train coming into Grand Central. Mm-hmm. And all of the people that you could affect. Yeah. Do you like train travel? It's, it's, well, to me it's a novelty. It's, you know, it's not like other parts of the country where mm-hmm. It's just a normal thing. So, yeah. I like it for the novelty aspect of it. I don't know what it would be like if it were a, a normal thing to me, but Yeah. Right. It's cool for, for what it is. Well, and the last time I was on the train was going from, let's see, I was in Pennsylvania and went into New York. And so, you know, that's the area where it's, it actually functions.
Jeff:Yes. Yeah. One of the rare places in this country where they actually know what they're doing with train travel.
Chris:Yeah. The, the East coast specifically. The northeast. Yeah. I mean mm-hmm. It, it functions very well. That's just the thing. I walked in, I got in line, I got on the train, and it was gone on time.
Jeff:Do you know about the plan here in Texas to build a high speed rail, high speed rail line between Houston and Dallas?
Chris:I've heard about it forever, but I don't know what's going on with it or if it, if there's any chance of it really becoming a reality.
Jeff:That's kind of where I am. I've been hearing about it for a long time. There's a ton of stuff that has to be done. Before it even gets off the ground, and I have my doubts that it'll get off the ground. It sounds cool. Mm-hmm. It would get you between Dallas and Houston in 90 minutes. Really? Which, yeah, I'm, I don't, I don't take that route, but a lot of people do. Yeah. And that sure as hell beats having to go to the airport and messing with all that. Getting on a plane. Yeah.
Chris:It's about if you go through the airports Dallas to Houston, you're looking at about between three and four hours, probably closer to four. Mm-hmm. Which is almost, almost the amount of time to drive now. I would still rather go through the airports then drive that, because it breaks up the trip. Mm-hmm. You know? Then I'm dealing with an hour of this, 45 minutes of that 45 minutes on a plane as opposed to, you know, four to five hours just sitting in a car. Now, speaking of any kind of transit like that, I just saw something recently where in Plano, Texas, they are looking at putting in some gondola things. As a travel thing to get people back and forth through Plano.
Jeff:Like hanging from a wire?
Chris:Yes. I don't like cars. Like kind of like the thing you would see at the state fair or something. Yeah. I don't know if that's in like a, a really small confined area, which is possible like just a downtown area. Yeah. Uh, but, but they're one of the, one of the ones who are looking at kind of doing a trial thing of it. That'd be kinda
Jeff:interesting. It would be. I think those things kind of scare me though. Yeah. They used to have'em at the state fair, and I know one fell, I don't remember. It was a long time ago. The 1979. Oh, is that when it was? Yeah.
Chris:I wrote it two days before it fell.
Jeff:Holy, holy.
Chris:Yep, I did.
Jeff:Man, that's cutting it close. Yeah, it was.
Chris:But they have it again now it's back at the fair, but you know. Oh, it is. It took them, yeah, but it took them, what, 30 years I guess, before they brought it back. So they had it. They had it at the fair, they had it at Six Flags, parks, and. What they found out was that the one at the fair was not being inspected properly and didn't have it, didn't have some safety clamp on the cable, which is what caused it to fall.
Jeff:Did you take that off?
Chris:But yeah, so the ones that Six Flags did have that clamp and they were being inspected, but they took them out at Six Flags too. I don't know if that was a safety precaution or just figuring, Hey, who's gonna ride this anymore after that happened?
Jeff:Right.
Chris:But I don't think I, but now they brought it back at the fair,
Jeff:huh? I still don't think I'd get on one. No. I think
Chris:all, all the stuff at the fair is, Sketchy about
Jeff:riding it anyway. Oh yeah. Is, yeah.
Chris:Those, those things are taken apart and put back together all the time. Yeah. And as opposed to, you know, uh, a Disneyland, Disney World, six Flags, whatever, where the rides are fixed and in place and. Number one, who do you think's putting these things together? Well? Look at'em. Look at'em. I mean, you see these people, they're barely managing their own life just to get there. And then who's
Jeff:inspecting it? Uh, yeah. I mean, they're probably out on parole. They're on the sex offender registry. Who the hell knows? Like, and what incentive do they have? How much are they making? 10 bucks an hour. Right. Exactly.
Chris:And you got some spare parts left over. Ah,
Jeff:that's all right. It's like my kids, they'll ask, like, they'll see a little carnival, you know, thing and, and a supermarket parking lot and they want to go, and I'm like, Nope, we are not doing that. Right. You are taking your life in your hands with that stuff. I,
Chris:sorry. It's amazing that that more things don't happen at those things,
Jeff:but yeah, I've seen, uh, this video, you might have seen it, but these people are taking off on a rollercoaster and this guy has a bolt and he. He, uh, leans up to the person in front of them and says, Hey, I just found this under your seat. Freaks the person out.
Chris:That's awesome.
Jeff:I love that. That's great. Make me have a heart attack. No kidding. Do you like big rides? You like roller coasters?
Chris:I love roller coasters. Roller coasters out of big rides. Roller coasters are my favorite by far. I don't like, I don't like swinging and I don't like going in circles. So, and I mean, rides that just go around and around, you know? Right. Even being on a roller coaster, if it goes into a, you know, a spiral kind of thing, that's fine, but I'm talking about the things that just spin you around. I, I don't like that. I don't like swinging.
Jeff:How about the, the ride, I don't even know if you call it a rollercoaster, but it just goes on a loop. Like it just keeps going up farther each time. And when it finally reaches its peak, you're upside down for, holy hell, it seems like five or six seconds. Yeah, I don't want any part of that. And then it can go all
Chris:the way around. Yeah. The super
Jeff:loop thing,
Chris:so there's one at the fair, and I have to say I've ridden it a long time ago, but. Um, you know, the, the swinging ship thing, it's kind of like that except that it goes upside down. Right. And I don't like the swinging ship because it's swinging. It's back and forth. And even though that thing is on a track, the, the Superloop deal, yeah. Even being on a track, it gives me that same kind of feeling of going up and down. And Oh, oh, alright. That about makes me sick to talk about it.
Jeff:The one at the, the ship, uh, at Six Flags. It just goes back and forth. I really like that. I like getting all the way to the back, you know, so can go as high as possible. Mm-hmm. The one at the fair though it goes higher, goes hard. I rode that once and I was coming up out my seat and if the bar had not been there, Well, we wouldn't be having this show right now. No.
Chris:Yeah, well even the one at Six Flags, I can feel that it can pop you up. Um, but the one at the fair, yeah, it goes higher now. I've ridden that one at the fair once or twice, and I did not like it for that reason. It's just, yeah, it's too much of all of that really, really hard. And I've, I've had some nightmares about it too. We'd have to do multiple episodes about my nightmares, but that was one of them.
Jeff:Okay. You need to keep track. I know you got a good memory, but you need to write your nightmares down because we could have a whole, we could have a whole segment on shows about your nightmares.
Chris:Yeah, but fortunately I think that I eventually have a hard time, even shortly after I wake. I can have a hard time remembering them. I think that's for my own protection, I think. I think my, my mind just blocks it out. But yeah, I've been attacked by all kinds of things. I've had, I've been on amusement park rides that malfunction, you know, roller coasters that come off the track. I, I was on that swinging ship one time when it swung all the way over the top and then just kind of melted down. It's like the whole thing just collapsed under its own weight. One time it flew one time, a different ti. See, this was two different dreams. One time I dreamed that, and when it swung around, it came off the pole and flung all the way across the park, and I was on it.
Jeff:Not for long. You weren't?
Chris:No. Well, all the way, all the way to the point of impact. Right? It was like, um, Ron. One of Ron White's standups, he was talking about being on a plane and them saying that one of the engines had gone out and the passenger next to him and said, how, how far will the other engine take us? He said, all the way to the scene of the crash.
Jeff:I remember hearing that. I love that. Speaking of standup, so Netflix has a Richard Pry. Stand up. Yeah. Uh, have you watched that? I did. Yeah. So I got like 30 minutes into it and I stopped it. Not cuz I wasn't into it, I had something else to do. Is it worth sticking with though? Because when I got done with it, I was like, I, I'll probably come back to it, but I'm not riveted. Yeah.
Chris:I thought it was good. Uh, nothing right now is standing out in my mind about it, but I was, I was glad I watched it. And it's like we've said before, I've not really seen much, I mean maybe in clips, but I've not really seen much of anything of his. And so it was kind of cool to see that because you can, yeah. You see other similarities between him and some other people, both that he may have been influenced by and that he influenced other people. Right. You know, more current people got some of. Style from him. So it's kind of cool to see from that standpoint.
Jeff:Man, you can tell he's all coed up. He's Oh, yeah. Breathing a lot and talking really fast, and he's sweating like crazy. Yeah. No wonder he, well, he talks about his recent heart attack and that one. Oh, did he? I don't remember them. Yeah. Toward the beginning, and he was like, I think he was late thirties. I think he was like 37, 38 years old, had a heart attack. Man, that's crazy. Yeah.
Chris:That would scare the shit outta me if I were having a heart attack that young. I mean, it would have a heart attack anytime, but seriously
Jeff:that age. Well, wouldn't you think that that would like set you straight and you'd stop doing cocaine, but he ramped it. Didn't he light himself on fire? You remember hearing that? Yeah.
Chris:That was uh, yeah. Free.
Jeff:Yep. Yeah, man. Yeah, I forgot about
Chris:that. Yeah, he had some serious burns after that, I think. All right, here we go. This was something I was gonna talk about and talking about Richard Pryor. I just thought, The, okay, this is how our minds work. Richard Pryor was in a movie called Stir Crazy. Right? Okay. So I was thinking about this. We talked about this recently of people stirring things. So do you stir something? Yeah. Clockwise or counterclockwise?
Jeff:Oh, alright. Here we go. So I stir
Chris:clockwise
Jeff:as all normal people. Yeah. So
Chris:you said you start clockwise. Yeah. Well, I'm watching Seinfeld and as they're in a coffee shop frequently Uhhuh. I notice that Jerry Seinfeld is stirring counterclockwise, but he's also left-handed. So then I'm thinking, does that have anything to do with it? Do left and right, handers stir different
Jeff:directions. Maybe and, and if you're stirring counterclockwise and you are left-handed, I guess I'll give you a pass, but if you're stirring counterclockwise and you are right-handed something's, something's gone wrong. My wife does that, and we've had many conversations about it through the years. She's right-handed and she stirs counterclockwise. See, that doesn't make sense.
Chris:The thing is, Being right-handed and going clockwise. Just seems like that's the natural, seems like that's the natural order of things. And going counterclockwise is bending my wrist back against itself? Yes. Like why? Why would I put more effort
into
Jeff:it? The thumb is the driving force of the spoon. Oh, and so you're moving. As you said, in a natural progression, and I look like a mental patient right now cause I'm stirring air. But yeah, that's, that's the natural way. It's totally weird to do it counterclockwise, but again, if you're left-handed, I don't know, maybe that is natural. I wonder if there's a pole that's been done, not just asking people on Reddit or whatever, like an actual poll. I'd like to find.
Chris:That would be really interesting, but you just hit on something I didn't think about is that your thumb can be the driving force Uhhuh. If you're right-handed, then you are using your thumb to push. Yeah. If you're left-handed and you're using it to push, you would be going the opposite direction. Yeah.
Jeff:Counterclockwise. So
Chris:that could, that could really make sense. But no, I don't get being right-handed and going counterclockwise,
Jeff:counterclockwise, swir. So, yeah, we need to find that out. I want to know if left-handed people are more likely to stir counterclockwise. Certainly. Certainly more people stir clockwise who are right-handed. They have to, if they don't, my whole world is shattered.
Chris:Yeah. I don't understand that at all. Hmm. But I don't understand people in general.
Jeff:Speaking of people, this also popped up in the news just in the past few days, did you hear about the principal in Florida who was fired after a lesson on, uh, art, something or other? And they showed the, the students, this was sixth graders, they showed students Michelangelos David Sculpture, did you hear all this? And the principal was fired. They were fired
Chris:for that.
Jeff:Well, okay. This is where just reading the headline can sometimes actually often not tell you the whole story. So I got this from, um, cnn. They had an article on it, but the headline everywhere was principal fired after failing to tell parents about a lesson on Michelangelo's David. Okay. That is true, but evidently she had been in hot water for some other stuff and this was like the last straw. But this school had a policy that they say is keeping in line with Florida's recent law that was passed called the Parental Rights and Education Bill. Uh, and this has been like a crusade. Speaking of Ron DeSantis, this has been like his crusade, uh, you know, banning African American studies and all. Here's what I have a problem with. He said, so the guy who fired the, um, the principal, I don't remember what he's like the, this is a charter school, so he was like the chairman of the board or something. He said, quote, the parent of each public school student has the right to receive effective communication from the school principal as to the manner in which instructional materials are used to implement the school's curricular objectives. And then in the very next line, He says, it does not mean that parents are telling us what we are going to teach their children. We are going to make sure that parents specifically know that we are going to show their, what we are going to show their kids, what we're going to talk to their kids about, and any key words that might be a tri triggering event. This gives parents the opportunity to say, wait a minute, my child isn't old enough to hear that. So which is it? Are you exactly. See that those, those are contradictory statements. Yeah. It sure
Chris:is. It's not that the parents can dictate it, but they can.
Jeff:Yeah. Right. So they said some parents did object when they found out what happened. They said there were, uh, I think a couple of parents equated that with porn, which is, oh my gosh, I know one of the dumbest things ever. But you know, people, well,
Chris:And I know this, uh, saw this post on Facebook this week and said things that have not killed your children this week was drag queens. Ancient art. Yeah. So I don't remember it listed like four or five things. There you go. Yeah. You know of that type. Just, just those kinds of things that everybody's out to ban and. Number one, how many of these students are even being subjected to those things? Number two, if they are in the rare cases, what kind of harm is that doing to them versus they're just getting mowed down in their own
Jeff:school. Yeah, I know it. I know it. We become so desensitized to it. Yep.
Chris:I see. Driving around today and see all these flags flying at half. It's like, well, you know what that's about, but it seems like we barely get the flags back up to the top of the flagpole before they have to come back down again. Right. For something I know it. It's a school shooting or a mall shooting or a workplace shooting or a, wherever it happens to be. It's
Jeff:ridiculous. Welcome to America. Yep. Alright. There you go. I think we're done, but I couldn't tell you what all we talked about. Could you? No,
Chris:probably not even close. Uh, just one thing led
Jeff:to another. So, you know, the whole impetus behind this show was we have these conversations and you said we should do it behind a microphone, right. Let's do a podcast. But we would have these conversations and I would come home and my wife would ask me, So what'd y'all talk about? And she never liked this answer, but it was always, I have no idea what we talked about. I don't know. So yeah. Now she'll have a record of it. That's right. But it's the same thing, like, I don't even know what we just talked about. So there you go. If you like this kind of stuff, then you are our kind of people, and this is your type of podcast. So you should follow us on whatever platform you listen to podcasts on. That way you will get new episodes delivered to you automatically when they drop, which is every Tuesday. And while you are there, go ahead and rate us. We would really, really like it if you'd give us five stars. And while you're. Go ahead and write something. The way all these apps work is if you write something that makes it easier for people to discover the show. So go ahead and write something there. It doesn't matter what it is. We also have a website that is Subpar Talks dot com. There. You can email us, you can leave us a voicemail. We're gonna read those and listen to all of those. Uh, so go ahead and do that. If you have suggestions for topics we should cover, then go ahead and do. We'll take all of those into consideration and submit
Chris:your vote. Submit your votes on how you stir
Jeff:clockwise or counter clock. That's good. That's a really good idea. How do you stir? Do you stir the right way or the wrong way? We also have, uh, social media. So on Twitter, we are at@subpartalks. On Facebook, we are subpartalks.com. You can follow our personal Twitter accounts. We would like that as well. On there, I am at@independentjeff
Chris:and I am at Chris Bradford, tx.
Jeff:And last, but never least share Subpar. Talks with your friends and colleagues and family and whoever else you encounter on a day-to-day basis. Get the word out. Share it on social media because the more people we have listening to this show, the easier it is. Easier. Fuck me. The more people we have listening to this show, the easier it is for us to get this content to you each and every week. And that is an episode. Do you have any final thoughts? Let
Chris:us hear from you. We gotta know how everybody stirs,
Jeff:right? That's another episode, and until next week, so long.