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E39 - Beef, Mulaney, and Springer

May 09, 2023 Subpar Talks
E39 - Beef, Mulaney, and Springer
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E39 - Beef, Mulaney, and Springer
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This week, we have some Netflix recommendations for you. Also, there’s an AI job that can make you rich. The old woman at Walgreens is back. Jerry Springer died, and what happened to talk shows? And finally, the Texas Legislature presses ahead on religious indoctrination. 

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This week, we have some Netflix recommendations for you. Also, there’s an AI job that can make you rich. The old woman at Walgreens is back. Jerry Springer died, and what happened to talk shows? And finally, the Texas Legislature presses ahead on religious indoctrination. 

 Hosted by Chris and Jeff

 

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Jeff:

This week, some Netflix recommendations, a dream AI job, another awkward Walgreens encounter, a Seinfeld tournament, a notable death, and the Ten Commandments. Welcome to Subpar Talks. Hey everybody. Welcome to Subpar Talks, where we have conversations about everything. I'm Jeff.

Chris:

And I'm Chris.

Jeff:

Thank you again for joining us and as always, you know what's coming. It is our standard disclaimer, listener to discretion. Oh God, I can't talk. Listener discretion is advised. We like to curse from time to time, maybe a lot and we touch on some mature subject matter from time to time as well. If that's not your thing, then perhaps we are not your thing, but for everybody else, settle in because here we go with this week's topics.

Chris:

So I just finished watching Beef. You told me about that the other day. Well...

Jeff:

Oh, you're already done with it. Wow.

Chris:

I started it and finished it. Yeah. I, it was like, It was, it was gripping somehow.

Jeff:

Yeah, it, it was.

Chris:

It was entertaining enough and, and also just gripping. Obviously, there are funny things in it, but I certainly wouldn't label it a comedy.

Jeff:

No.

Chris:

I found it much, much deeper than I expected it to be.

Jeff:

Same here. There's some heavy stuff in it. Yeah.

Chris:

Yeah. I mean, I, I wonder how many people would watch it a little more superficially and, and just see the funny and, and all of that. But I'm looking at it like, oh, damn.

Jeff:

Yeah.

Chris:

These people have some serious shit going on. But the thing is, you feel like you can see yourself in it, because we're all dealing with that kind of stuff.

Jeff:

I know, yes. It was very relatable. Not on, I mean, in my life, not on that scale, the stuff they were dealing with or doing, but still a lot of the same, uh, like there's some overlap there for sure. And...

Chris:

Yeah.

Jeff:

Yeah. It's, it's heavy. And gripping, that's exactly right. Like from the get go, like episode one, the way it starts out is like, I'm in.

Chris:

Yep. But you know what I kept thinking during the whole thing, and this goes back to, you know, us talking about how we, we see and hear things and relate to movies and TV shows and all this that we've seen, was a line in Karate Kid, you couldn't leave well enough alone, could you? Like neither one of them could.

Jeff:

No.

Chris:

I mean, damn. Just fucking stop.

Jeff:

Yep. I know. Just let it go.

Chris:

Yes.

Jeff:

Let it go. So do you honk at people on the road?

Chris:

Yes, but I, how do I say it? I think about it and if, if somebody just really pisses me off, then oh yeah, I'm giving it all to'em. Yeah. But honestly, I feel like I drive with more patience. People get on my nerves, but I just try to kinda like, I'll talk to myself in the car, like, what an idiot. Like, are you kidding me? Will you get out of the way? Whatever. I do things like that and don't outwardly do anything toward them. Now, if they just really endanger me. Something like that. Like, I cannot believe you just did that. You could have caused this wreck then. Yeah, I might just lay, lay down on the hornet. I used to honk a lot more, uh, than I do now. I, yeah, I'm like you, I think I've become more patient and I just, I'm not as, uh, I mean, I wasn't hot headed. That's not the right term, but I'm just more relaxed, more patient now. I used to honk at people a lot more. Have you ever given anybody the finger? You ever flipped anybody off? No, I've never done that. I've seen Well, there you go, right there in beef from the get go. You know? You see how that went? And I've seen that happen, so I don't need that. No, I think I've done it a couple of times, but it's been a really, really long time. Like I don't think I would do that now. Yeah, and I think honestly it, honestly, not thinking back on it, I probably honked less, like started honking less because I was concerned of what it could lead to. It was when we started hearing more and more and more about road rage. Yeah. I thought, ooh, what if I do that to the wrong person? But I think then because I stopped doing it, It then made me think and question like, well, is that really worth it anyway? And I think that's where more patience has come from. Yeah. That's a great show though. I wonder, so I was wondering how they, or, or when I was watching it, like episode seven or eight, is there gonna be another season? Are they gonna have another season? And I mean, I don't want to give any spoilers away, but. Could you do it with the same characters or would, would it be different people? Like a holy, uh, a totally different story? I don't know. Yeah, they could do it with different characters because there have been other shows. There was that one called, um, is it Dear? It's Not Dear John, what was the name of it? Oh, dirty John. Dirty John. Yes. Yeah, that's what I always wanted to call it. Dear John. Yeah, because Dirty John. Yeah. They had two different, two completely different stories in season one, season two, so they could do something like that. Hmm. Yeah, it was, it was so good. The writing, the acting. Yeah. Yeah. And I like, I like shows like that. Drama, but mixing some funny stuff too. I do too. Yeah. Well, it keeps it real. Yeah, it does. Speaking of Netflix, uh, you and I have talked about John Elaney before. He's got a new standup special on, on Netflix. Yeah. I started watch. Have you seen it? I started it. I, I think I only got like 20, 25 minutes in maybe. But it was good. Yeah, it's different for sure. It is different. And yeah, I got about, oh, I probably have like 20, 25 minutes left maybe. Yeah, it's different the way he started it out. And I was, honestly, I was a little concerned because the way it started out, I wasn't laughing. Like I usually laugh at his stuff, but it picks up later on. Yeah, it does. Yeah. It's good. For those of you who haven't seen it, John Elaney was in rehab again. Again. Yeah. Not his first time. Uh, but he talks a lot about that, the lead up to it, the intervention. I found that really funny. That's funny. Yeah. That's really funny.

Jeff:

Yeah. So anyway, I recommend that. But did

Chris:

you know that he was having these issues recently?

Jeff:

Yeah, I remember hearing about it. Um, I mean, I probably just read a headline that he was, I knew that he had gotten divorced.

Chris:

Okay. I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know any of that,

Jeff:

and I think I read that he was in rehab. Yeah.

Chris:

Okay. Yeah, I, all of that was news to me.

Jeff:

Seems like he's been dealing with some shit for a really, really long time. I guess so.

Chris:

Well, Imagine that cocaine didn't help anything. I mean, from the standpoint of his marriage and all,

Jeff:

from what I've seen, he hid it really well. You know, we were talking about Richard Pryor and that standup special on Netflix, and I told you, you could tell he's all coked up. He's sweating buckets and talking really fast and breathing fast and all that. John Elaney, right? Evidently he was snorting Coke left and right, but. Yeah, he, he masked it really well.

Chris:

Of course he says in the special that that's probably, you know, like that's the reason he had the persona that he did on stage.

Jeff:

Right. Yeah. He's definitely more subdued in, in this one, and that's why, maybe that's why I figured he was, or, or I was concerned like, is this gonna be any good at all? Mm-hmm. But it definitely picks up. Yeah, it's good.

Chris:

You know, he was talking about the really famous people, all, like all comedians and all that were there for his intervention. Yeah. I wonder if Terry Seinfeld was one of those

Jeff:

maybe. Uh, yeah, I was hoping he would reveal who it was. He only mentioned a couple of people.

Chris:

Yeah. So I remember seeing, uh, Sebastian Maniscalco on Netflix and. Jerry Seinfeld was in his audience. Oh, wow. They showed him one time, which I love to see that, that a comedian is just sitting in the audience of another comedian. Yeah. Watching. Yeah. But can you imagine what kind of

Jeff:

pressure that is a

Chris:

ton. I mean, nevermind that you're standing up in front of, you know, 2000 people or whatever it is. Yeah. But you've got the harshest critics. Sitting there

Jeff:

too. And how cool. It must feel amazing that you make those people laugh. Yes. And he was Jerry Seinfeld laugh.

Chris:

I know. And he was, when, when, uh, they showed him that's exactly what was happening. He was laughing. I thought that was

Jeff:

so cool. Yeah, it was very cool. I saw, um, Was this on Netflix? I don't remember what this was on, but, uh, no, I think it was just over the air. But this has been several months ago. There was like a tribute to Paul Simon and they had different artists coming on and, and singing his songs. Mm-hmm. Uh, but he's right there in the front row and there's some country artists, I don't remember who it was, but before he started singing. Whatever he's saying. I don't remember what it was, but he talked about how he grew up listening to Paul Simon songs and now he's sitting there in the front row and he said something to the effect of like, I hope I don't screw this up, or Now I've just freaked myself out, or something along those lines. Like, can you imagine like somebody you've listened to the whole time growing up and now there they are right there and you have to perform in front of them.

Chris:

No, I can't begin to imagine. I would freak out. I just shit it all right there. Okay, so I was looking through, uh, my Google feed the other day and this got my attention as it would. Says the chat g p t skill that pays up to$335,000 a year.

Jeff:

Holy hell, sign me up.

Chris:

Right? So I was like, okay, I gotta, I gotta see what this is about. So it is called a prompt engineer. That's the name of the job. And. The whole idea of the job now, it's obviously an extremely technical job. These people are working with computer models and, and how language is interchanged between the human and the computer and all of that. But basically helping to determine how things like chat, G P T will respond to humans. And can they interpret what the human is saying, to know how to respond and so on. But they're using all kinds of analytical models and language processing and all this kind of stuff to do it. But it says the salary ranges from 175,000 to 335,000 at this particular company. The company is, and. This was a, a real, I mean, aside from everything that I just said, which is attention getting enough, one of the things that really grabbed my attention in this was saying that a position like this has only existed for two years. Wow. So we're talking about jobs that over two years ago literally didn't even

Jeff:

exist. That's amazing.

Chris:

Yeah, it makes me think about all the, you know, we've had these technology conversations on here before and think about, you know, when CDs came out and they're talking about putting all the record making people out of business. It's like, well, mm-hmm. Yes. But then people are making CDs. Yeah. And well, CDs go away, but then there are other jobs that replace that. And in this case, We're talking about jobs coming up now because of the computer capabilities that literally did not exist. It's just mind

Jeff:

boggling. Does it say what the qualifications are?

Chris:

Um, well, so that was one of the things that it does mention is how, because it's a new job, it's not like they can say, oh, you have to have X amount of experience in this kind of role. So yeah, it says excellent communicator. Love teaching technical concepts, creating high quality documentation, high familiarity with the architecture and operations of large language models. So there are jobs, you know, prior to now that would've used something like that. So you do have to have that basic programming skills where you'd have to be comfortable writing small Python programs. And, but yeah, that's what it's listing out. So yeah, I'm out. Well, but the point being there is now the, the large language models, that's pretty specific cuz even just a, a normal technologist person could be deep into technology but have nothing to do with that. So Right. That's the most specific thing, but basic programming skills. Lots of technical people have basic programming skills, so if you, you know, anybody that understands language models like that means they've probably got a shot at it. Wow. I don't, just to go on record,

Jeff:

I would think anybody who's on the cutting edge, Of ai, stuff like this, they're gonna be doing all right as far as money goes.

Chris:

Yep, they are. And that will, that will continue for sure, because just like that, you know, there are gonna be jobs that pop up in the next two years that don't exist right now, and they'll just keep going. It's fascinating though.

Jeff:

Do you remember the episode? I don't remember which one it was. It's been a few episodes ago where I talked about the old white woman at Walgreens and she misidentified the black man.

Chris:

Oh yeah. Was that Mr. Williams?

Jeff:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She thought she saw Mr. Williams, a black man, but she did not. Um, and then it got awkward because she kept trying to convince everybody with an earshot that the black guy standing before her really did look like Mr. Williams. Sugar Ray

Chris:

Leonard. I

Jeff:

was back in Walgreens the other day and there's a guy behind me, an old guy. He's white though, and this woman's white. It's the same old white woman. And she says, Hey, Mr. Johnson. And he says, Nope, that's not me. My last names, I don't remember what he said, so she got that wrong too. But then she said, oh yeah, I remember you. You were in here just the other day. And he said, yeah, I was. And then she said, I love the joke you told me about the Japanese people on the bus.

Chris:

It's like, holy

Jeff:

shit, what have I entered into? That's awesome, man.

Chris:

So,

Jeff:

She mis identifies black people and then, uh, laughs at probably what is a pretty racist joke, but I have no idea. Yeah. Part of me wanted to hear the joke, but I was afraid I was gonna get wrapped into a conversation that made me really uncomfortable.

Chris:

No, you don't need that. Keep

Jeff:

your distance. Yeah. So anyway, I think I'm going to Walgreens too much. Why do I keep having encounters with this woman? You need to

Chris:

find out when she's not working. Yeah, I know. See who she calls

Jeff:

you next time. Yeah. Well, I don't want to like, I would prefer to not have to say anything to the people checking me out. Like I don't even want to say anything, which is why I go to self checkout a lot. You do self-checkout?

Chris:

Yeah. I mean, I feel like. I don't go to Walgreens much,

Jeff:

but, but like just at the grocery

Chris:

store. Yeah. I was gonna say, well, that's why I said that because where I'm going, I feel like that's the more available option. Yeah. There just aren't that many people working normal checking lanes. Like Right. I go to, for example, I'm going to Target and there are four self checkouts. There might be two other lanes open and you know, they're stacked three deep. Well, I'm not going over there. No. And same thing at the grocery store. Walmart, there's a ton of self-checkouts now. So yeah, I am very often doing self-checkouts, but that's not always because I want to,

Jeff:

well, the, the small talk just beats me down, you know? Hey, how are you? Yeah. Oh, I'm doing good. How are you? And then they say something else, remark on whatever it is, and then I'm, then I'm in a conversation. I don't want to be in a conversation, right. It's exhausting. Just let me go. Yeah. I want out. I'm

Chris:

okay with the, hi, how are you? But beyond that, yeah, I don't need

Jeff:

to have a conversation. Well, yeah, yeah, me too. I said I don't wanna say anything, but if Yeah, you ask me how I am, that's fine. But let's just end it right there.

Chris:

Take one bite.

Jeff:

Okay, so there's a Seinfeld tournament on Twitter. Mm-hmm. And, uh, the, the account is Seinfeld scholars and they've been running this tournament and it's episodes, it's just episode against episode and it's whittled now down to, I think they're eight left. Uh, eight. So four matchups. And let me get your opinion. Which do you think is better? The Hamptons or the facility Jerry? I think I'd have to say the facility, Jerry. Okay. I voted on that. I voted for the Hamptons, but I struggled with it. It wasn't an easy vote. Yeah,

Chris:

I could see that. The Hamptons is a really good one.

Jeff:

Yeah. I

Chris:

think the facility stands out a little more to me

Jeff:

now. What about this matchup, the rye or the marine biologist? I think

Chris:

the rye is good as a classic episode. I think the marine biologist stands out more. I think it's more entertaining.

Jeff:

Yeah. See, I struggled with that one too, and I voted for the rye, but I honestly could go either way. It, it doesn't, like I, I, they're both great episodes. They are. I

Chris:

know, having heard, you know, some behind the scenes stuff, the thing that. I've always loved about the marine biologist. Is it that final scene? They said, oh, you know, yeah. Oh, the episode's not really ending in a great way. We need to do something. And George's whole monologue there at the table, they wrote it like an hour before they recorded it, which

Jeff:

is amazing. He nails it. Yeah. I watched it recently and when he's giving that, Elaine almost loses it. She just is about to crack up at one point. Yeah, it's so good. And that, that episode has one of my favorite lines. It's when George is upset at Jerry telling that woman that, that George is a marine biologist, and he says, why couldn't you make me an architect? You know, I've always wanted to pretend to be an architect. Yes, George's self-esteem is so low. It's that it's not, I've always wanted to be an architecture. I just wanted it to pretend to be one. Right.

Chris:

That is written perfectly. I

Jeff:

know. Oh, I know it. Yeah. It's, it's a great one.

Chris:

Uh, it just has some obvious, I mean, obviously there are curve balls, but it seems like there's more than one. It's, you know, and it is tied together so well. That's, it's all

Jeff:

of it just comes together. Great. With the Hamptons, I tend to look at episodes like that, that, that something stays with you like a particular word and shrinkage. Mm-hmm. That's where shrinkage comes from. That's right. And And breathtaking. Breathtaking, yep. Do you remember the doctor's name? The pediatrician? Ooh, no, I sure don't. Dr. Pfeffer. Really? Yeah. Oh,

Chris:

there's Noer Could have said that.

Jeff:

Yeah, because it's Feifer is is Pepper in German, so. Mm-hmm. It's Dr. Fe, Dr. Pepper, but it's Dr. Pfeffer. That's

Chris:

hilarious.

Jeff:

Hey, did you hear who died today? Newman died. Somebody died today. Did you hear? I did hear that. Cherry Springer. Yeah, he was 79. I didn't know he was that old. No, I

Chris:

didn't either. But I mean, no, it seems like he's been around forever, but I was still shocked that he

Jeff:

died. Yeah. Did you ever watch his show? Oh

Chris:

yeah. In college. I

Jeff:

sure did. Yeah. College was,

Chris:

that was a great escape. You know, you get home from class in the afternoon and just plop down to do nothing and watch this show. It makes you feel so good

Jeff:

about your own life. That that's what I remember. I didn't watch a lot of it, but I remember watching, uh uh, just a little of it and I was like, man, you think you're, you think you've got problems. And problems are problems. They're very real, but it's on a whole other scale with those people. My God.

Chris:

It's a sliding scale and they were falling off the other

Jeff:

end. Yeah, and it got to be just, Even more outlandish than it started with. And I thought about this. So did you used to watch talk shows? Like I remember seeing some of this stuff, like I'd be home sick or, or whatever during the day. Mm-hmm. And seems like there were tons of talk shows on, there

Chris:

were, I mean, there was Phil Donahue back in the

Jeff:

day. Yeah, that's what I remember first. Yeah.

Chris:

And then, you know, Oprah came on in 80. I can't remember if it was 84 or 86, I think somewhere. Yeah, somewhere right in there. So I didn't know this until today when Jerry Springer was Exactly, it was 91. Mm-hmm. But yeah, there, then you got, you had, um, Ricky Lake, there was Sally, Jesse Raphael.

Jeff:

Yeah. Everybody had a talk show.

Chris:

Yeah. Course. I don't know who those people were. Besides their talk

Jeff:

shows. Right. What'd they ever do? How'd they get a talk show? Yeah. I don't know. And oh, H Geraldo. Oh, that's right.

Chris:

He had one. Yeah. Do you

Jeff:

remember when? I think he had like KK people on, and I don't remember who else, but somebody threw a chair and hit him in the nose. You remember that? Yes. Yes. That was like a big deal. Was, but then just a few years later, you've got all that shit happening on Jerry Springer. Right? Yeah. It was

Chris:

a, it was, you're right. It was a big deal when that happened, and then it was just commonplace on this.

Jeff:

It was Boy Horaldo's an egotistical asshole. Yeah,

Chris:

he is. I, I remember when he first, well, when I first became aware of him way back when, I think he was on 2020. So he did. Oh, was he like investigative journalism type stuff? Yeah. Where he was a more respectable person. Yeah. And I was so surprised when I started seeing stuff about his talk show, like, what the hell happened to you? Like you were this kind of upstanding kind of person and then this is what you turned into. I

Jeff:

don't remember him on 2020. I remember John Stale doing that stuff. Yeah. And I think

Chris:

Aldo was before

Jeff:

that. Oh, okay.

Chris:

I like John Stale though, too. I think they were kind of similar in the kinds of things

Jeff:

that they did. Yeah. Both had a mustache. Yeah. Phil Donahue, I remember. So that was, I remember my mom would watch that and I was, I was real young, but I remember him like, he wouldn't take shit from anybody.

Chris:

No. And, and I saw, um, I think this is right. He was one of the fir, well, maybe the first of the talk show people who would go out into the audience. That was a big deal. Oh, for him to do that? Yeah. You know. Then of course, Oprah, Sally, Jesse, Ariel, they all did that, but I think he was like the first one to do that.

Jeff:

Huh. I never thought about that. Yeah. He's a pioneer. What? Talk shows are still out. Does Marty Popit still have his thing going on? I don't know,

Chris:

but I think forever he was doing, you know, who's, who's your daddy? I think that was all he,

Jeff:

he could do dhs us. Yeah. He is a one trick pony. Yeah.

Chris:

So Jerry Springer actually died of pancreatic cancer.

Jeff:

Oh God.

Chris:

The, the first article I, yeah, the first article I saw said, um, that, that no cause of death had been identified. Then I saw one that said a short bout with an illness. Then I saw one that said cancer. Then I heard someone say pancreatic, but I hadn't read it, you know, I looked it up and sure enough, It says, um, that it was confirmed that it was pancreatic cancer, that, that kind of stuff just freaks me out. It's like, you can be doing okay. Think you're doing okay, and you get something like that. And that's kinda like a 5% survival rate, right? I mean, yeah. It's not like you go, oh, I'm gonna beat this. I mean, okay. 5% of people do,

Jeff:

but yeah. Alex Trebek. Yeah. Michael Landon. I remember that one. So he was like, he was two. Yeah, yeah,

Chris:

yeah. That was when we had barely heard about it. Yeah, that's right. I forgot about

Jeff:

that. Yeah. Did you watch Little House on the Prairie?

Chris:

Um, I watched Little House on the Prairie by accident. Like I've been watching something else and then the reruns came on in the afternoon. Yeah. And um, it was, so, you know how we've talked about how you feel on Sunday afternoon, Sunday

Jeff:

night, yeah. Depressed. Yes. This is

Chris:

the way I felt every afternoon when I was like, you know, 4, 5, 6 years old. Is when Little House on the Prairie came on a horribly depressing tune. These people are barely getting by and I feel my day coming to an end while I'm watching this. And I'll never forget when she wakes up blind. Oh, I know. Scared the shit

Jeff:

out of me. I know. I was like, can that happen to me? Yes. Holy hell. I was so

Chris:

afraid I was gonna wake up one day and not be able to see.

Jeff:

So we would watch that. My sister and I, so you know, we're Generation X, so we're the latchkey generation. So we'd, you know, come home and we have one TV and my sister would watch that. I don't remember when it came on the air, like actually on the air. I just remember reruns. But she would watch that. And yeah, it was mostly depressing to me. But what else am I gonna do? So I would sit there and watch some of it, but it was an hour long and I just remember thinking, my God, this has to end so I can watch something else. Yeah.

Chris:

Right. Yeah. You're, you're ready for night to come so you can get on with the new happy, colorful stuff.

Jeff:

Right. Well, we talked about sitcoms. Um, you know, eighties sitcoms, but that's when I would catch all that stuff in the afternoons. Coming home from school, happy Days, the Jeffersons. Oh yeah. That's how I got acquainted with all those shows. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris:

As soon as I'd get home, I'd turn on, turn on the TV and start watching, start watching the reruns of those, those things. Mostly from the seventies at that time. Well, sixties too. Yeah, that's how I got Gilligan's Island. Andy Griffith, Gomer Pile. Things

Jeff:

like that. So are our kids. They don't do this. No kid. People who have kids that are around our age, this, this is not an experience for them. They don't come home and just turn on tv. They're not watching talk shows like we did. No. It's just a very, very different experience for them. They

Chris:

come home and they're on their phone. Yeah. And they're scrolling videos and looking at Instagram and. Talking like as in chatting, texting, Snapchatting, whatever they happen to be doing on their phone. But no, they're not, which that's, that's a different experience of the world, but that's just it in some ways. I just feel like you're not experiencing the world.

Jeff:

Yeah, I know.

Chris:

And you're going down the road, driving down the road and my daughter's glued to her phone. It's like I'm seeing the world out here and you have no idea what's going

Jeff:

on. I tell you, when we first started traveling with our kids going on like, you know, just road trips to somewhere, I was of the mindset that, hey, I didn't have screens when I was a kid riding in the car with my parents and we had to interact and look at the scenery and all that. So we started enforcing that. But holy hell, you get two small kids in the back seat and it doesn't take very long to where you're like, all right, what do you wanna watch? Here's the iPad. What do you wanna watch? We got tons of stuff here, right? Pick something

Chris:

I know. That's like, uh, I remember in one of Bill Cosby's bits he said, parents don't care about being fair. They care about quiet.

Jeff:

Yep. Remember that quiet? Yep. So true.

Chris:

So did you hear about what our Texas legislature is trying to do with 10 Commandments?

Jeff:

Oh God, yeah. We talked about that, but I think I know what you're referring to. It passed the Texas Senate or the Texas House? One of the two, I

Chris:

think. The house, I can't re, yeah, I can't remember which one passed one of the two. I haven't heard an update on the other one, but yeah, so it was that the 10 commandments have to be posted in the classroom. Yeah. Prominently displayed. So whatever that means. It's like, holy shit, what the fuck are we going to now? And I mean, it'll take years. But that'll be a Supreme Court case, probably. Yeah. And, and, and then what? What's gonna happen with it there? Well,

Jeff:

according to Supreme Court precedent, That case shouldn't even get to the Supreme Court. Like it's clear cut. It's, it, it violates the first amendment's establishment clause, uh, you know, separating religion and government. But this current Supreme Court is so conservative. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they changed the law.

Chris:

Well, and we had the precedent with Roe versus Wade and Yeah.

Jeff:

Overturned that. And there you go. People were gonna have the attitude. That the Supreme Court's just another political entity. Like they're not paying attention to the law, they're just basing their decisions on whatever they, whatever their politics are. And that's a dangerous thing, but Sure. Yeah. I think it'll, I think it'll pass the, the Texas house. Yeah. Well, I have no doubt

Chris:

Abbott would

Jeff:

sign it. Oh, he would, you know, it's gotta be the, uh, like the 10 or the, uh, king James version of the. Oh, 10 command. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's in the law and it's talks about coveting your neighbor's ass. That's great. That is great. Don't covet your neighbor's ass. We're run by a bunch of idiots in this state. Is, is that in

Chris:

the the coveting commandment or the adultery commandment.

Jeff:

Maybe both. Yeah, it should be in both. Or I think the adultery one says you can covet your neighbor's ass. Just don't touch it. Uh,

Chris:

look, but don't touch. Yeah. Makes me think of uh uh, Kramer's jacket and Seinfeld. Or the, the Cuban guy goes, I like that jacket. Oh yeah.

Jeff:

Hey, where was Kramer? Was he at the Cuban? Is there, I don't even know if there is, but some Cuban consulate embassy or whatever. Where did that happen?

Chris:

Yeah, it was like the consulate, uh, consulate,

Jeff:

I think. Okay. And what is that? I don't know what a consulate,

Chris:

I don't know what the difference is between that and an embassy. I don't either. Um, and it's like a step down. I know that, but it's, but I mean, they are like, I, I, are they sovereign territory? Like an

Jeff:

embassy? I don't know. When I asked what that is, it reminded me of Kramer. Now, for those of us who don't know, uh, sidling is what,

Chris:

because it an embassy is sovereign, right? I mean, like if you were in the embassy, that's equivalent to being in that

Jeff:

country. In the country. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a consulate now, I don't know. Hold on. Are you looking it up? I'm looking it up,

Chris:

yeah. Oh, okay. Here's an answer. An embassy is always established in the capital ci in the capital city of the receiving country.

Jeff:

Yeah. So we have all those embassies in, in

Chris:

dc, in Washington, dc. Mm-hmm. On the other hand, consular offices are usually located in large populated cities that are mostly tourist attractions and economically developed. So a consulate could be anywhere, but the embassy has to be in. City then. Okay. The purpose of a activities of a consulate include protecting the interests of their citizens, temporarily or permanently, resident in the host country, issuing passports, issuing visas to foreigners and

Jeff:

public diplomacy. Oh, okay. Huh? I had no idea.

Chris:

So I guess you could say like a lot of administrative. Functions of that country. Yeah. In the host country. Right. I've, I've gone to consulate in Houston to get a visa, but yeah, I didn't know what the difference was in the embassy and a consulate either. Well, there we go. Learn

Jeff:

something. You know, you can get, like, there are no qualifications to be an ambassador. And so you can get a, you have to be appointed by the president. That's it. But you can get appointed ambassador to like some wonderful destination, some tropical locale, and Really? Yeah, and there's no, uh, there's no qualification. I think you have to get confirmed by the Senate, but that's it. So I want to be one. Yeah. Well, it depends on where, like I don't wanna be in Afghanistan.

Chris:

No. Well, what do you

Jeff:

have to do? That's another thing. I have no idea. But I was gonna say, like I imagine if you're, if you're an Afghanistan, you're the US Ambassador to Afghanistan, you're dealing with a lot of shit. But if you're the US Ambassador to Norway or Iceland or whatever, like what is there to do? Yeah, I have no idea. Just kickback. I don't know. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Just do next to nothing. Well, Fiji, there you go. Yeah. Bali. Yeah. Yeah. Like I, I know we have ambassadors there. That'd be a pretty sweet gig. Yeah, it would. Well, we need to get on that. It won't pay as well as the job that you talked about earlier. Well, that's true.

Chris:

Hey, and that job might be remote too. That'd be cool. You could go to Fiji and have

Jeff:

the job. Two bird, two birds, one stone. Yeah. Yeah. Is an ambassador a full-time job? I mean, in Siri, yes, but I don't know. Well, they have to have American workers at those places too. Now, I don't know how many that is, but I don't know how they get their jobs. I mean, they're not appointed, but they just work at the embassy. So I don't know if, is it, do you have to be a US citizen to work at those embassies or do they hire, I don't know. Oh, I don't know. Be what are, what are people in Fiji called Fijis, Fiji Fijis. I don't know. I dunno how that works. There's a lot. I don't know. I've learned that as I've gotten older. Like there's just a ton of stuff that I don't know. Yeah.

Chris:

I have many, many more questions than I do

Jeff:

answers. Yeah. I have students ask me like really obscure questions about something government related, and I'm like, I have no idea. I mean, I teach this stuff, but I don't know everything that there is to know about it. Right? Or they'll ask me some question about a law. I'm like, I have no clue. I probably disappoint'em, but. Like, I'm not an encyclopedia. Well, uh,

Chris:

just tell'em they'd disappoint you too.

Jeff:

If I told them I'm not an encyclopedia, they'd probably say A what? A what? Yeah. Oh, you mean a

Chris:

what? Wikipedia. Yeah.

Jeff:

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