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E43 - Tina Turner, D.C., and Weird Guinness Records

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E43 - Tina Turner, D.C., and Weird Guinness Records
Jun 06, 2023
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This week we discuss a notable death. Also, Chris plans a trip, we get some clarification on which is more dangerous—bungee jumping or skydiving, and we wrap it up with some crazy Guinness records. 

 
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This week we discuss a notable death. Also, Chris plans a trip, we get some clarification on which is more dangerous—bungee jumping or skydiving, and we wrap it up with some crazy Guinness records. 

 
Hosted by Chris and Jeff

 

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Jeff:

This week a notable death, Chris plans a trip, so just how dangerous is skydiving and bungee jumping, and weird Guinness records. Welcome to Subpar Talks. Hey everybody. Welcome to Subpar Talks, where we have conversations about everything. I'm Jeff.

Chris:

And I'm Chris.

Jeff:

Thank you again for joining us and of course, of course you know what's coming by this point. You could probably say it by heart if you've been tuning in for a while. But it is our standard disclaimer, listener discretion is advised. We like to curse from time to time, maybe a lot. And depending on the episode, we will touch on some mature subject matter and we inject our humor into a lot of this stuff. So if that does not set well with you then maybe this is not your type of podcast, but for everybody else, settle in because here we go with this week's topics. Uh, I saw you eating a granola bar. Is that what it was?

Chris:

It was. I had to get a mid-afternoon or late afternoon snack.

Jeff:

About to get myself a snack.

Chris:

I ate lunch, but not very much. It was fine when I ate it and it wore off.

Jeff:

What was it?

Chris:

So something had to be done. Oh, it was your favorite, peanut butter and jelly.

Jeff:

Oh my God.

Chris:

Yeah.

Jeff:

That's terrible. You have chips with a sandwich? I have to have chips with a sandwich.

Chris:

I usually do, but I was so strapped for time that I didn't even do that. And that helps stretch it out. You know, that, if, if a sandwich is gonna last you X amount of time, then you probably get another 30, 45 minutes on top of that if you eat just chips.

Jeff:

Yeah, it's kind of sad though. Just a flat peanut butter and jelly sandwich and that's it.

Chris:

Isn't it? Just sat there and just scarfed it down and that was it.

Jeff:

Are you drinking anything?

Chris:

I only have water today.

Jeff:

I feel like the only time I ever ask you if you're drinking is when I'm drinking.

Chris:

Oh, what are you drinking?

Jeff:

I'm drinking a beer. It's something called, I had to take a picture of the can cuz I knew I wouldn't remember. It's called Melted Rainbow Sherbet. I don't know why it's called Rainbow Sherbet, but whatever. It's good.

Chris:

Well, that's weird. OK, so you're, you're not drinking it out of the can, so...

Jeff:

No, I'm not drinking it outta the can. I've put it in glass.

Chris:

My first thought is, why do you need to take a picture of the can that you're drinking out of?

Jeff:

When I can just look at it.

Chris:

Right? The very can you're drinking from. Well, that would've been a good question. Thank you. OK, so strawberry sherbet. Rainbow sherbet. Well, let's cover this right here. What do you think about people who say sherbet. Oh, that drives me nuts. We should have brought that up. I never thought about it, but we should have brought that up on some episode. We were talking about grammatical errors that people made. Yes. And sherbet. Oh my God. Not that's what spelled that way. No. I read something one time and I can't remember the words that it compared it to, but it was talking about other words in English. That have that sound like E R t a r t, something like that at the end. Yeah. And so it's, it's a common sound. Mm-hmm. And so then people just kind of go with that. But no, I'm, I'm as big on that as you are of, of pronouncing things correctly, putting the, the correct word where it belongs. I mean, right. Having people use words that don't even make sense and context drives me crazy. So I just thought of two more, et cetera. People say, oh, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. And asterisk. People say, asterisk yes. Drives me crazy. Especially, especially, oh my gosh, yeah, that drives me crazy. Uh, we had a notable death recently. Did you hear about this? We did. Yeah. Tina Turner.

Jeff:

Yeah, she was 83. Man, I, if you would've asked me, I would've said like mid seventies maybe, but 83.

Chris:

Yeah. I, I think I was a little surprised at her age. I didn't really know that. I, I will say this though. I've never paid that much attention to her. I know she's popular in, in her genre. You know, they call her queen of rock and roll, but not, to me that's a stretch. I think that that's, yeah, that's all I know to say is not to me. I know she's big in her area. I just, it wasn't something I ever paid that much

Jeff:

attention to. No, honestly, I'd be hard pressed to name five of her songs. Oh, me too. Uh, she's mentioned in Seinfeld. Do you know the reference?

Chris:

Oh, no.

Jeff:

Really? Yep. It's, uh, I don't know the episode, but it's, um, is it called the Rick Shaw? Is that the name of the episode? But it's where Elaine is making out with her coworker. Mm-hmm. And she's afraid of her reputation then. And so she concocts the idea that she and this guy were actually going out, but then he was cheating on her. And she's talking to Jerry and she says, so I become, I, I was the office skank and I become the office and he says, Tina Turner. And she goes, alright,

Chris:

that's right. So what, was she married that many

Jeff:

times? Uh, no. So she, well she was married to Ike Turner, but, and I think it came out years later that he was abusive, cheated on her. Like he beat her. Not just, you know, emotionally abusive, but physically too. Right. I don't know when that came out. Mid seventies, maybe early seventies. I don't know.

Chris:

So next week I'm going to DC with my daughter. Um, she's got a class trip. They're actually outta school already, but she's got a class trip to go there, so that's gonna be an event.

Jeff:

Yeah. Yeah. I like DC. Yeah,

Chris:

I do too. Every time I say, every time I've been, I, I don't even know how many times I've been, but when I've been, it's always been for work As an adult, I did go, um, as a kid once and got to tour the White House and the Capitol. Um, I think we were only there for the day. You know, now getting to tour the White House is. Some huge thing you've gotta contact. Yeah. Who is it? Your representative, I think. And get tickets and I think it's like a six month or something like that in advance. Yeah. Something crazy. So obviously that's not happening. We are getting to do a capital tour though. Oh, that'll be good. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. And then we're going to a ton of memorials going to Arlington National Cemetery. Pretty much e every big memorial you could think of. There were a couple on the list that I didn't even know existed.

Jeff:

Really. Do you remember what they were?

Chris:

Or do you remember? Well, there's an FDR Memorial for one. I don't, yeah, I don't think I knew there was an FDR

Jeff:

memorial. I think it's pretty recent.

Chris:

Is it OK? Yeah. Well that makes me feel a little better.

Jeff:

Yeah, we went there, uh, last time. Uh, we visited DC and uh, yeah, it was good.

Chris:

Yeah, so there's that. Well, there's an M L K Junior Memorial. I'm not sure if I knew about that one

Jeff:

either. It's, uh, it might be even more recent than the fdr. I didn't think it was that good actually. The MLK Memorial? No, no. Do you remember where it is? So I'm trying to remember. We visited that after we visited the Lincoln Memorial and it was, Quite a trek, if I remember right. I want to say we did those two MLK and FDR on the way to the Jefferson Memorial or on the way back. And you know how the Jefferson Memorial is across that reservoir, Uhhuh. Uh, so it's kind of away from the other stuff. So I think it's on the way there. How are y'all getting around? You? Going by bus or what? There are

Chris:

buses, but there's going to be a lot of walking and I don't know, I, I don't know how much we're gonna ride the bus between these places or if the bus is going to get us to the vicinity and then we're gonna have to walk everywhere. So like the first day there's the White House, Lafayette Square. Washington Monument, world War ii, Memorial fdr. Memorial, M L k Memorial, Jefferson Memorial. It's a lot of memorials. Yeah, it's, and then at night we're doing a night tour that's going to Lincoln Memorial, Korean War, veterans Memorial and the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. Wow. So that's covering, that's day one. And that's covering a lot. That's a

Jeff:

lot. That is a lot of ground to cover. Yeah, it was a lot of ground to cover. We went to the World War II Memorial and I know we saw the Korean War Memorial, and I honestly don't remember much about those. We went to the Vietnam Memorial and I went there as, as a kid. But, uh, we went there last time we visited DC and. That's pretty heavy. Going to the Vietnam Memorial, just seeing all those names for just a pointless, pointless war.

Chris:

Yeah, it's amazing there. There was a traveling one, and I'm trying to remember what the scale was. I want to say it was a third, a one third scale. Oh, I mean, it was like all the names and everything, but yeah. One third. And even that just seemed massive. I mean, it was at a, a local library and, and it was so long at that scale. Yeah. So, yeah, it's, uh, that's sad.

Jeff:

All right. What's day two?

Chris:

Day two is. Starting out at Arlington National Cemetery. Mm-hmm. Then the Marine Corps War Memorial. Didn't know about that. Yeah.

Jeff:

I don't know what that is. Air

Chris:

Force Memorial. Don't know about that. I've never heard of that.

Jeff:

Are these made up? Uh,

Chris:

maybe. Um, then the Pentagon Memorial. I got that one.

Jeff:

There's a Pentagon Memorial.

Chris:

Well, the memorial at the Pentagon

Jeff:

for what's the memorial of flight?

Chris:

The flight that crashed. Nine 11. Yeah. Um, what was that? I don't remember the number. I don't remember the number. Yeah. But anyway,

Jeff:

yeah, the Pentagon. So that's kind of away from, from everything. Like it's, it's right by

Chris:

Arlington National Cemetery.

Jeff:

So, yeah, I was gonna say it's in Virginia. Yeah.

Chris:

Yeah. We're starting there and then doing the Marine Corps and Air Force and then Pentagon, so it must be really close to that. I've been to the Pentagon Memorial before. That was interesting to see. I wouldn't say cool, but Right. Interesting. And then we're going to Mount Vernon. I've never been to Mount Vernon. Oh, OK. Also Virginia. But you know, down, down the

Jeff:

river from Yeah, it's quite a ways from dc. Yeah. I wanna say like an hour by car, 45

Chris:

minutes, something like that. I was gonna say, yeah, probably. Yeah. It's gotta be about that. Because we've got lunch at 12 and then that's not till two 30, so Yeah.

Jeff:

Well, I hope the weather cooperates honestly, this time of year. You don't know what it's gonna be like in DC Exactly.

Chris:

Right now it's like mid to upper seventies temperature, so that's mm-hmm. Nice. But this is gonna be a tour, rain or shine. So I'm a little bit concerned about rain. Like I'm just, I'm gonna be out there getting drenched in a poncho to go see all of this stuff.

Jeff:

Yeah. Do y'all get to go to any museums?

Chris:

So we get to go to the Smithsonian twice and we can choose which museums we go to. Oh, OK. Yeah. So you've been to the Smithsonian, right? I

Jeff:

have, yeah. Yeah,

Chris:

so I need some suggestions on where to go because I know you can spend days upon days just at the Smithsonian. So I need to pick and choose carefully what's the best to go to in a short amount of

Jeff:

time. There's so many Smithsonian museums, it's kind of overwhelming. Uh, the two that stick out to me are the Air and Space Museum. That's really good. That would be cool. Yeah. And the other one is, I think it's just called the American History Museum. A lot of it is like, uh, I don't wanna say pop culture, but more modern stuff. Like I, I remember seeing, uh, like Archie's chair from all in the family. It's got that kind of stuff. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I think Fonzie's jacket is there. So yeah, it's, it's that. But man, two hours, like honestly, You're gonna have to pick and choose what you're gonna look at in the museums because they're so huge.

Yeah.

Chris:

I would love to see that kind of stuff though. That's, yeah, that's a, a big reason for me to want to go. But yeah, I would be, I would be perfectly happy if I could spread that out over a few days and just go through the museums. That would be so cool.

Jeff:

Yeah. And, uh, I mean, tho those museums are so good. One thing that makes'em even better is they're free. Like they are free of trade. Really? Yeah. You don't have to pay how? That's shocking. Yeah,

Chris:

it is. Government's not trying to get money from us there.

Jeff:

Yeah, I know. So you just talked

Chris:

about the percentage of where our tax money goes. I wonder where that

Jeff:

falls. That's a good question. In

Chris:

that 5% of miscellaneous, who knows what this might

Jeff:

be? Yeah, yeah. Other 5%, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'd have to look at the pie chart again. So you're going to the Capitol. Do you know what that tour's gonna be like? Like is it a guided tour? Do you get to see the House or the Senate in session or, or do you know?

Chris:

I don't know, man. If we did, I'd have some things to say. Did you see That Reminds me. Did you see Marjorie Taylor Green's thing in the

Jeff:

house? Oh my God, no. What'd she do now? She's banging

Chris:

her gavel and said there will be decorum in the house, and everybody laughed at her.

Jeff:

Of course they did, but she's never shown one ounce of decorum. Yep. What it is. It's

Chris:

hilarious. Then a photo stop at the Library of Congress and US Supreme Court. I don't think I've seen the Library of Congress. I've seen Supreme Court cuz it's right across the street from the capitol on the east side. Um, and then the next day, visit Ford's theater. I hope it's, I hope it's better for us.

Jeff:

We're like Lincoln, I know

Chris:

this is all gonna happen between, uh, Wednesday and a Saturday, so it is going to be packed in. This is gonna be fast and with. A hundred and something. Eighth graders,

Jeff:

oh my God, I'm

Chris:

gonna come back in a body bag. Uh yep.

Jeff:

OK. Last week. We were talking about the different things we had talked about when we took a gummy and, and we didn't know what we talked about, which is why we took notes, but one of those was skydiving versus bungee jumping. And on last week's episode, I wondered aloud which one is safer, right? Skydiving or bungee jumping. So I have the answer, but let me hear from you first. What do you think is safer? Jumping out of a plane or with a parachute, obviously

Chris:

it's jumping an important prerequisite. Yeah, it's, man, that's so hard to say because I can imagine, you know, the shoot's not opening. I would think though, once the shoot with the shoot opening, how much do you need to know to safely land? I don't

Jeff:

know. Yeah, that's a good question and and the statistics I have are just deaths. I don't have injuries and I don't know that there's any database anywhere that has injuries by both of these sports, but I have deaths.

Chris:

So that's one thing I was thinking is how many people might get injured bungee jumping. You know, you snap this, yeah, you break that, you pull something. Who knows what it's like. The cord's a little bit too long and

Jeff:

right. Yeah. Tap your head on the concrete. Yeah. OK. So this is from, uh, adventure travel pro.com. They give the fatality statistics of bungee jumping, uh, and they got their data from Best, best health degrees. The estimated death ratio for bungee jumping is one to 500,000 jumps. OK. To put that in comparison, uh oh. For bicycling, it is one in 140,845, so are you kidding me? Cycling I'm not. Cycling is more dangerous and I'm assuming that's getting hit by cars and most of that anyway.

Chris:

OK. I would hope so. I was trying to think like what exactly is happening to these people? Yeah. But, yeah. OK. That, I guess that's a, a reasonable assumption.

Jeff:

OK. Uh, mountain hiking is one in 15,700. Are these

Chris:

people getting eaten by something or

Jeff:

falling off or, uh, they're, yeah, they're falling. I guess most of them are falls, but. Every once in a while you'll hear about a bear attack or a mountain lion or something. Yeah. Or

Chris:

somebody just disappeared, which might be the same thing.

Jeff:

True.

Chris:

Yeah.

Jeff:

OK. This one was shocking. Canoeing. One in 10,000. Oh my gosh. I know. That's kind of scary. Because I've canoed. You've canoed. Yeah,

Chris:

we've canoed. We tried.

Jeff:

Well, I sure didn't know it was that risky. I didn't neither.

Chris:

Although we did nearly drown. So there you go.

Jeff:

Yeah, we did. And then hang gliding one in 560, uh, I thought you were gonna

Chris:

say 560,000 is gonna No.

Jeff:

560. Yes. One in five 60. Wow. I've always thought hang gliding would be cool. It'd be cool to do like you're on a cliff or something. Yeah. And you just go down and, and you're gonna land pretty soon and you're going slow. I thought that'd be really cool. But after seeing this, I'm out so much. No. Yeah. Not at all.

Chris:

What if your, so what is that? Your wings just collapse or,

Jeff:

I don't know. I have no idea. So those are the, uh, that's the section on the website where they talk about bungee jumping. Now let me move to skydiving.

Chris:

Well, if hang gliding is that bad, skydiving's probably not gonna be great.

Jeff:

So you jump this? I thought it, well, I don't know what I thought. This says you typically jump from 12,000 to 15,000 feet. I kind of thought it would be higher, but maybe I'm thinking of commercial airliners. Nobody's, nobody's flying at 30,000 feet and jumping out of an airplane.

Chris:

I know when you're above eight, like 18,000, you gotta have oxygen. Oh, OK. Well that makes sense. And well, and a pressurized cabin then. So you're gonna have to be below 18, but I thought it was usually even closer to like 10. OK, so even 12 to fi you said 12 to 15. Yeah, that's, yeah,

Jeff:

that's higher than I thought. OK. So I've given you the other, uh, adventure sports here. It looks like hang gliding is the most dangerous in terms of deaths. I'll give you the skydiving one in a second. Snowboarding, one in 2.2 million. OK. Skiing. Skiing. One in 1.4 million. So skiing evidently more dangerous than snowboarding, I'm assuming. They're just, they're going faster. And a lot of competitive skiing. I don't know. Yeah. OK. Interesting. So here's our skydiving number. One in 100 1083. OK. Compared to bungee jumping one in 500,000.

Chris:

OK. So what are we talking about? Five times more dangerous. Yeah, but that's a huge difference between that and hang gliding. Sure is. So how is hang gliding so much more dangerous?

Jeff:

I don't know. I'd

Chris:

like to find out more about that. You can't hold on to the, can't hold on anymore.

Jeff:

I don't know. I don't know. And how does that work? How does hang gliding work? Are you tied to the thing, the glider or whatever the hell it's called? Or are you just expected to hold on?

Chris:

No, you gotta be harnessed to the thing and then your hands are, are out actually guiding. So I guess that's the thing. You know, if you think about the parachute, as long as the para, and that's kind of what I was saying before, like as long as the parachute opens. OK. It seems like that would be fairly automatic that you're just. You know, coming down it, it's carrying you down. Yeah. But with hang gliding, you are actually like moving the bar that moves the wings. So imagine flying a plane, you know, if you go Yeah. Up, down to the side the wrong way. You don't have any lift anymore and you could just go tumbling down. I sure like the idea of it, but not at one in 500 and something. No. Thank

Jeff:

you. No way.

Chris:

OK, so here's an article that is 30 jobs that Will Not Exist in 2030 because of ai. So we've covered AI on here at least, at least a couple of different times, and talking about how this is going to influence jobs, change, jobs, not, maybe not eliminate, but could certainly change them. This is literally talking about jobs that may not exist because of ai. The first one on this list is a travel agent. Now, that's a little odd to me that AI has anything to do with that because I see travel agents becoming less and less anyway that people can just go on and book their own stuff, right? I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something there as to how AI could impact it as well. Yeah, I'm not sure. Um, the next one is cashier.

Jeff:

So you're a cashier?

Chris:

I do. Again, I mean, cashiers are dependent on less just because of the self checkouts. But what does that have to do with ai? I

Jeff:

don't know. Male carrier. How is AI going to do

Chris:

that? I don't know. I mean, there's a whole lot of reasons that the male's going away or being dependent on less, but I'm not sure what. That has to do with it. Fast food cook. I think this is a bunch of shit like

Jeff:

textile

Chris:

worker. I

Jeff:

have no idea.

Chris:

Maybe I just don't understand as much about AI as I thought I did. Bank teller, I mean, I see all of these being in jeopardy because of automation. But automation and AI are not necessarily the same

Jeff:

thing. Yeah, it sounds like the person or whoever, whatever website created this, they'll know the difference or, yeah, it's actually just automation and not ai. Right. Or they put AI in there to get people to click on it like you did. Exactly. Yeah. Uh,

Chris:

it's click bait and I took bait. Yeah. Yeah, you did. Now here's one. I could, I could see this sports referees and umpires because yeah, that is gonna be, that. It's got to learn. What's, what's good, bad in out, you know, and is even you think about the nuances of penalties or things like that. I could totally see that. If you're talking about referees and umpires, that can make sense

Jeff:

to me. It absolutely could. So they, I mean, they have the technology now, they just don't do it. But in baseball to. Determine what's a strike and what's not. Like you wouldn't even have to have an umpire determine that in football, they have the technology to, like you could have a laser running across the field where the first down marker is, you know the line. Oh yeah. To get a first down, you don't even have to have chains to measure it anymore. That seems so antiquated to do that, but they just really does. They choose not to. Yeah.

Chris:

I've always questioned the chains anyway, because let's just say number one, that you put the chain down in the right place from the last play. Yeah, I know. You could have been, you could have been inches off already. Yeah. And then number two, who's to say that the ball was spotted in the correct place? Because they're spotting the ball off of their eyes, not off of going and looking at a replay.

Jeff:

Exactly. And then when you've gotta play like in the middle of the field that ends in the middle of the field, which official is spotting the ball? The one coming from the left sideline on the left, or the one coming from the right? Like how do they decide that? Who spots it? It's just right. There's a lot of human error. Room for error, I guess. Yeah. And AI could, could end all that, but. I don't know. The human element. That's what I was trying to think of. There's a, a human idea. Yeah. We could just leave the chains behind. Just get

Chris:

rid of, yeah. Get rid of all references. Abolish our reference

Jeff:

anarchy.

Chris:

All right, telemarketer. That's the next one. That's pretty clear. Yeah. Did you see, I just saw this video the other day. I've seen it before. It was from, I wanna say, a year or two ago, it was at a Google symposium that they were, they were displaying new technology and one of the things that they had was an AI caller that called into a, it was calling like a beauty salon or something to make an appointment. And it, it called a real salon, an interface with an actual person and saying, hi, I'm an assistant calling for this person. Sounded slightly robotic because you know, yeah. But I think if you were the person taking the call, you probably wouldn't. And they were trying to say, I'm looking for an appointment around this time. They were like, well, we don't have anything then, but we could fit you in at this time. They said, do you have anything in the morning? And they kind of had this little back and forth and then settled on, OK, we're doing it at this date and time for this person. OK, thank you very much. And it was all ai. Wow. Unbelievable. Yeah. So yeah, there go your telemarketers right there. You could start having a conversation with a computer and wouldn't know it. Yeah. Lumberjack.

Jeff:

This list is bullshit.

Chris:

So, all right, now I gotta read a little bit of this. For the lumberjacks are disappearing fast is the first thing. It

Jeff:

says, well, it's one of the most dangerous jobs. You remember that episode? That's right. No wonder they're disappearing. You're getting killed on the job.

Chris:

Thanks to our increasingly digital and automated world, the need for paper is reducing, and governments and companies are keen to create a greener and more sustainable environment. As such, there are already massive amounts of research into creating alternative eco-friendly materials and machines that eliminate the na, the need for lumberjacks. That has nothing to do with ai, that has to do with computer automation and alternative ways of

Jeff:

doing things. Yeah, just new technology in general.

Chris:

Taxi drivers, there's one because you could get automated cars. Self-driving cars. Self-driving cars, yeah. That, that could absolutely happen. That could put Uber, I mean, not Uber out of business, but. The drivers. What about the drivers?

Jeff:

That's what I was thinking of to you.

Chris:

OK. Here's one. Dispatchers. Dispatchers could absolutely go away because sometimes it's the dispatcher is looking at multiple things to make a decision on how to do something. So AI could be making those decisions. Yep. Truck drivers. Absolutely. Yeah. That's, that's about to start happening. We're, I think we're closer to that than a lot of these other things, which scares too, the shit out of me. I know. Because the drivers themselves can be aggressive enough. Can you imagine if you've got an AI thing that might fail, that's

Jeff:

scary.

Chris:

Just run right up your ass.

Jeff:

They're gonna have to do a lot of testing on that before they just let it go.

Chris:

Wow. Yeah,

Jeff:

man. You ever seen the, you ever seen the movie Duel? No. That doesn't sound familiar. It's uh, so I always heard my parents talk about it. It was a made for TV movie from like 1971 or something like that. And it's notable because it's Steven Spielberg's first movie that he directed and Really, yeah, it's a good movie. You should check it out. But this guy in this 18 wheeler is just terrorizing this, this driver, this like traveling salesman. Like that's the whole movie. But it was good. Wow. It's just called dual. That sounds

Chris:

kinda like, um, do you remember Joy

Jeff:

Ride? Oh yeah. You remember that movie? Same kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Mess you up. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. That was good. Now,

Chris:

here's one Farmers that's a definite thing, farmers because. Yeah. Well, so the farmers have again been making their decisions on how much stuff do they put down, how much seed do they put down, and, and at what rate do they put it down, and fertilizer and bug, uh, pesticides and all that kind of stuff. Mm-hmm. How much water do they apply? A lot of those things are getting automated for them to make the decision on this is what you should put down and how much and when, and all of that kind of stuff. If the farmer's not having to make those kinds of decisions, and we're gonna have self-driving cars. Let's just say you don't have a self-driving, I don't know what all the farm equipment is, but it's just gonna be out there seeding, you know, seeding everything for you.

Jeff:

Wow. A self-driving plow.

Chris:

Well, a plow, but then I'm thinking like the, the harvesters and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Like, yeah. The farmer. The farmer might be down to, hey, they just go out and start up the equipment in the morning and program it in and off it

Jeff:

goes. Go back to bed. Exactly. Oh my God. That would be a horrible existence being a farmer. Can you imagine? You got that right. You gotta wake up at the crack of dawn. And you have to work like you. You have to go out to work. You gotta go out and do shit every single day. It's terrible.

Chris:

Well, and just saying that, wake up at the crack of dawn, that's bad enough. Yeah. No matter what you're doing. But imagine that you're waking up at the crack of dawn and you gotta go shovel shit and milk a cow and. No.

Jeff:

Yeah. And mess with crops and God, I would hate that. Yeah. That, that's like hell for me having to

Chris:

be a farmer. I can't imagine. I mean, I, I can try to, and it sounds horrible. Yeah. Waiters and bar staff. I'm not sure that falls in the a uh, I don't know. Maybe it kind of falls in the AI category if you're talking about trying to, you know, place orders and stuff and the thing has to interact with you more, I guess that's

Jeff:

possible. Yeah. Not, not necessarily making the drinks, but ordering, like, if you're ordering like for pickup, like Starbucks, you know, through the app mm-hmm. Before you go, you're ordering your drink. So that could be what that's talking about. Yeah,

Chris:

maybe we could have a holographic image walk up to our table and take our order.

Jeff:

That'd be cool.

Chris:

Military pilots and soldiers. Why? And I could see that.

Jeff:

Can we have robots fight for us instead of people? Yeah, exactly.

Chris:

Stock traders.

Jeff:

Absolutely. Oh, definitely on that one. Computers, yeah.

Chris:

Making those decisions for sure. Construction workers. Automation maybe. I don't know about ai parking lot, attendance. Kind of the same thing. We've automated that librarian. Librarian, maybe that, cuz that could be more of a back and forth conversational research.

Jeff:

Yeah. When is the last time you were in a library? I

Chris:

couldn't even tell you.

Jeff:

Not a clue. Isn't that crazy? You walked out of it and you had no idea that that would be No. The time you,

Chris:

I know. We never really know when the last time anything is, do we? That's true. Not, not too much, but that's, no, I sure didn't think about it for the library. It's like, well see you.

Jeff:

So I was talking to my son recently and I don't even remember about what, but he mentioned the Guinness Book of World Records. Mm-hmm. And that got me thinking. So I had a, they used to, Guinness used to release a book every year, the Guinness Book of World Records. That's still what I call it. I don't even know if they, they issue a book anymore. I doubt it. But the Guinness Booker World records, I remember the one I had when I was young. It was like from 1985, and I remember thumbing through that and seeing all these different weird records. Do you remember the guy with the longest fingernails? You remember that picture? Yes. Yeah. And the fat twins disgust on the motorcycles.

Chris:

Yeah.

Jeff:

So anyway, I came across, I was wondering about that. I just did some Googling. I came across this. It's from board panda.com. We'll run through these pretty quickly, but it is the 60 weirdest Guinness Records. And I'm not gonna roll through all 60, but there were 10 that stuck out to me. Some of the stuff's just nuts. Uh, number one. So this is not in any particular order, just, uh, from their website. Number one, most children delivered at a single birth to survive. Holy hell. In 2021, did the mom survive? Yeah. Unfortunately, nine kids. Oh no. In 2021, Halima Cisa from Molly delivered nine children at a clinic in Casablanca, Morocco. Holy shit. Nine.

Chris:

That's a litter. It

Jeff:

is a litter. That's what that is. It's bigger than a litter. Yeah, this is crazy. That reminds me of the Octo mom. You remember the Octo

Chris:

mom? Yeah.

Jeff:

Do I think she went into porn? Did she really? I think so. Oh man. I'm gonna be, I might regret this Google. We're gonna have to edit this out.

Chris:

Octomom porn. That's

Jeff:

exactly what I typed in Google. Yeah. Nadia Suleman is her name. Nadia. OK. Nadia, yeah. Yeah. She went into to porn. Yeah. Was that

Chris:

just to be able to pay for the kids? Was that the

Jeff:

deal? I guess so. Oh, holy hell. I went to images and kind. Oh, mama. Is she no good. I mean, there's probably worse out there. Oh, I'm sure she's in a movie called Octo Mom Home Alone. Wow. I wonder what happened to those eight kids. I don't know. They grow up

Chris:

and fall on her footsteps. That

Jeff:

was a long time ago. It was a long time ago. So they're probably grown now, right? It could be, yeah. I guess that was to pay for all them. Jesus. OK. Longest time breath held voluntarily, longest time breath held voluntarily. Yes. I love that. They put voluntarily in there. Um, in 2021. Croatian, BIR Sobo. Voluntarily held his breath for an astonishing 24 minutes and 37 seconds. How the hell does that? No, 24 minutes. See, this is from Guinness, but I feel like I need to follow up on that. Are you sure?

Chris:

OK, so, so why do pe, why are people brain dead in less time than that? Yeah,

Jeff:

I don't know. How does that work? Maybe he was, well, I don't know. I don't know. I dunno how that works.

Chris:

Well, the voluntarily parts the best thing there. Yeah, it is because that doesn't include nearly all the people who've done it in voluntarily

Jeff:

choke somebody out for 30 minutes. Hey, I got the record. Longest standup comedy show by an individual in 2013. David Scott, a k a, the midnight swinger. Sounds like he should be with the Octa mom. Yeah. Uh, performed the longest standup uh, performed. The longest standup show. He lasted. Holy fuck. He lasted 40 hours and eight minutes telling jokes. Man, that's a lot of material. It is a lot of material. That's what I was thinking. And who the hell's listening to it? I guess somebody from Guinness had to listen to all that. Yeah. Can you imagine what it was like in like the 37th hour? No, could

Chris:

you just fast forward Yeah. And just verify? Yep. He's still up there.

Jeff:

There's no way. He was still funny that far into it. No way. No,

Chris:

no way.

Jeff:

OK. Um, oh, I mentioned the fat twins on the motorcycle. So, uh, here you go. In 1978, Billy Leon McCreary weighed in at what the hell? It's giving it to me in kilograms. How the hell am I supposed to know what that is? I'm an American, goddammit. I'm an American idiot. 337 kilograms. Oh

Chris:

shit. So it's 2.2 pounds per kilogram. How many, oh

Jeff:

my God. 337. And his brother's 3 28. Well, that's

Chris:

741 pounds for the

Jeff:

first one. Oh my God. So maybe these aren't the fat guys on the motorcycle that we were talking about earlier, because there's no way those guys, they weren't 700 something pounds, right? No. And I don't even think a 700 pound person could get on a motorcycle.

Chris:

No. So what is this saying about these people? What'd they

Jeff:

do? They're just the fattest. The fattest twins.

Chris:

OK. And how big is the second

Jeff:

one? 3 28. So they're both over 700 pounds.

Chris:

That's 7 21 and the other was 7 41. Wow.

Jeff:

God, I bet he turned to his brother and said you need to lose a little bit of weight. Um, they were both normal size until the age of six. Well, what happened? Uh, both died from heart failure. That's the last sentence here. Oh, that's a big surprise. I know it. God. Old mighty what? At seven? Yeah. Right. This one is weird. Most consecutive. One finger pushups. In 1992, London's Paul Lynch performed 124 consecutive, one finger pushups. Holy shit. I don't even understand how that works. Like I feel like I would break my finger if I tried to do that.

Chris:

Yeah, I think it'd have to be your thumbs, but who knows.

Jeff:

Oh, could be. How

Chris:

could you do that on anything?

Jeff:

Yeah. I wonder which finger it was, if it wasn't the thumbs.

Chris:

I don't think I could do one pushup on my

Jeff:

thumbs. No, couldn't either. Uh, most lightning strikes survived. Oh, wow. Jesus Christ. The only man in the world to be struck by lightning seven times was X Park Ranger Roy Sullivan. His attraction. God,

Chris:

I think after this first time, I'd probably get out of the job. I know

Jeff:

it. His attraction for lightning began in 1942. He lost his big toenail resumed in 1969. So that's 27 years later. I bet he thought he was in the clear, he lost his eyebrows in that one. That's Uncle Leo. In July, 1970, the very next year, his left shoulder shoulder was seared. April, 1972, his hair was set on fire.

Chris:

Hair's

Jeff:

on fire, yeah. In August, 1973, he caught his hair on fire again when he was struck and his legs were seared. On June 5th, 1976, he injured his ankle. June 25th, 1977, he had chest and stomach burns, and in September, 1983, Oh, he killed himself. Just

Chris:

couldn't take

Jeff:

it anymore. He was dreading the eighth strike. God, no kidding. I don't understand that, how that happens. I guess you're just spending a lot of time outdoors in his job.

Chris:

God, wow. Yeah. But. I mean, you know, you're supposed to come inside when all that stuff starts happening. I

Jeff:

know. Like he's just hanging out, playing in the storm. Uh, number eight here, highest tightrope walk. A 1989 Frenchman Michael Manin walked a 10,335 foot high above the French countryside. That's amazing. But I'm bringing this up because there's a really good documentary called Man on Wire. You should check that out. I think it's the same guy. He did a tightrope walk between the Twin

Chris:

Towers. Yes, I've, I've seen pictures of it, but I haven't seen the documentary.

Jeff:

Yeah, it's good. I think it's the same guy. Largest hands ever. The USA's. Robert Wadlow, the tallest man ever. Eight feet, 11.1 inches, had hands that measured, oh my God. He had hands that measured 12.75 inches from the wrist to the tip of his middle finger jet.

Chris:

That's like at least two Amari. Yeah.

Jeff:

Over a foot long God almighty. You should Google that guy. You ever seen him, Robert Wadlow? Yeah, I think, I'm afraid. Yeah. There's a picture standing of him standing next to his family, like he had a wife and kids. I don't know how that works if his hands that long.

Chris:

His wife, man. I don't know. Just the tip.

Jeff:

Just the tip. And she was hurting. Wow. And then, uh, here's the last one. Longest human tongue.

Chris:

Well, that's

Jeff:

disgusting. Yeah, it is. The longest human tongue measures 3.97 inches from its tip to the middle of the closed top lip and belongs to Nick Stal since it was verified in 2012. So, oh, OK. The tip? The tip. I was thinking the front of the tongue, but they're saying that's the back to where it attaches. To whatever. OK. And then the, the to the closed top lip. So whatever.

Chris:

So then how much is sticking out?

Jeff:

I dunno. I don't know. But we're talking about a tongue that's almost four inches long. Jesus Christ. Yeah. That's disgusting. Yeah, it is. He might have been popular with the ladies though.

Chris:

Perhaps. I think that's another just the tip.

Jeff:

Wow. So anyway, there's some interesting Guinness records for you.

Chris:

Some weird shit out there.

Jeff:

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Chris:

lightning. Don't. Yes, definitely. Don't be the person that gets struck

Jeff:

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