Embrace Change Without Editing

Flora Brown periodically inventories her current life projects to decide if her current choices feel right for her now and for the next 2-5 years. When you visit her site and pursue her products and courses it quickly becomes obvious she pursues what she loves and changes her focus when she tunes in to what feels right for her.

Her current focus on teaching people how to write their own biographies - whether in written volumes or in micro memories in various media. She tunes into the person’s needs on many levels and guides them along the path to achieve their personal ultimate outcomes.

Flors explains why allowing projects to stand as we create them rather than working on editing and editing them actually makes them superior tools for others to embrace. She sees the natural result as being transparent, allowing the audience to learn vicariously from the detours and seeming mistakes made by those of us who teach by sharing.

Learning by working through, or witnessing how others work through similar challenges promotes growth that may never happen if only a finished product is whole and perfect as is, garnering the desired results seemingly without obstacles.

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<v MC> MC Welcome to Let's Get Metaphysical, the show that stretches you beyond your five senses.

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<v MC >When you are looking for your next step on the path into the unseen, we've got you covered.

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<v MC >Join Epic Adventure Seekers and level up your game with your host, reality magician, Ali Bierman.

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<v Rev. Ali >Well, what's causing you to feel like it's time to change direction in life?

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<v Rev. Ali >Is it a simple change?

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<v Rev. Ali >Is it changing your whole life?

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<v Rev. Ali >What is it?

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<v Rev. Ali >I'm Reverend Ali Bierman and you are joining us here today for Let's Get Metaphysical, Connecting Heart and Mind.

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<v Rev. Ali >And we have the absolute best person as our guest today who knows all about change, Flora Brown.

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<v Rev. Ali >I have known Flora for very many years and every so often she's into a new chapter in her life, which is a good choice of words, because one of the things that she's done in that way first found her was she was an author and then she helped people write.

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<v Rev. Ali >And today she's here to share something that it's just really exciting.

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<v Rev. Ali >I think there's a very important place for it and I'm really glad to introduce to you, Flora Brown.

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<v Rev. Ali >If you'd like to share with us three things that most people don't know about you.

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<v Flora Brown >Most people don't know that a lot of times I step forward to do things that I don't quite know how to do and I'm willing to make a fool of myself in front of many people.

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<v Flora Brown >That's one thing.

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<v Flora Brown >Another one is most people look at me and think I'm organized and very neat and tidy and all that.

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<v Flora Brown >That's not true.

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<v Flora Brown >What's another thing?

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<v Flora Brown >I can't swim.

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<v Flora Brown >I took swimming lessons when I was young because we had to swim at the Y and so forth, but I don't consider myself a competent swimmer.

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<v Flora Brown >So a lot of people may not know that or care.

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<v Flora Brown >Was that three things?

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<v Rev. Ali >That was definitely three things.

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<v Rev. Ali >It's so good to see you.

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<v Rev. Ali >I haven't seen you since the last time I went to California.

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<v Rev. Ali >That was definitely fun.

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<v Rev. Ali >I love following you because every so often you're on a new path doing something completely different and what you shared about jumping into doing things, that's like, wow, because I think that you do an extraordinary job of everything you do and I absolutely love what you're into now.

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<v Rev. Ali >Please share that with everybody because I think it's so important.

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<v Flora Brown >Okay, what I'm into now is helping people write their life stories because I think everybody's story matters.

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<v Flora Brown >As a matter of fact, my Facebook group is called Your Life Story Matters.

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<v Flora Brown >I think I got into this, of course, you know, I've been writing all of my life and I've published some books traditionally and a lot of books I've self-published.

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<v Flora Brown >But one of the things I realized as the years have gone by is that I don't know a lot about my parents' backgrounds.

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<v Flora Brown >My mother talked a lot about her life, but only the part she was proud of.

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<v Flora Brown >And if you got into areas that she didn't want you to know, she'd say, why do you need to know that?

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<v Flora Brown >My father, I know very little other than where he was born and the names of his siblings accidentally, because he talked about them in comparing us, his kids, to his siblings.

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<v Flora Brown >So as I've gotten into helping people write their life stories, I also got into genealogy with a very good friend of mine now who I met online.

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<v Flora Brown >And as I've learned more about genealogy, and she also does photo organization, I've realized more and more how it's important to capture the stories of your, if you can, your ancestors, your parents.

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<v Flora Brown >But the story we have the most control over is our own stories.

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<v Flora Brown >So I got very, very passionate about doing that.

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<v Flora Brown >And because I've been a teacher, I was a teacher for 40 years, from junior high level to university level, I'm very competent about teaching, I'm very good at helping people bolster their confidence and take the chance of writing something or doing something.

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<v Flora Brown >And most people do not feel that they're good writers.

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<v Flora Brown >I doubt if you pick the best writer in the world, the top sellers, they probably have some confidence lagging when it comes to writing, and especially when you're talking about yourself.

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<v Flora Brown >So I got into this, I found a program or maybe the program found me called Guided Autobiography.

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<v Flora Brown >And for whatever reason, every January, I'm all excited.

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<v Flora Brown >Everybody's always excited about the new year, making resolutions and so forth.

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<v Flora Brown >And one year I discovered this program in a catalog that was already ended, the classes had already ended.

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<v Flora Brown >But when I saw that it was talking about helping people with their life stories, even though you have a lot of experience teaching, but this is a little different.

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<v Flora Brown >So I thought I'll sign up for it, except it was over.

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<v Flora Brown >So I had to contact the leader.

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<v Flora Brown >And she said, you know, I'll put you on the wait list and let you know when the next training starts.

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<v Flora Brown >So that's what I did that year.

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<v Flora Brown >And each year it seems like I reevaluate my life and see if I'm on the path I want to be on for that year or the next five years or whatever.

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<v Flora Brown >And so I took the class and I got into a whole other world of wonderful people who are dedicated to helping people write their life stories.

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<v Flora Brown >And we're talking about people who are not necessarily planning to publish for the retail market.

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<v Flora Brown >Many of the people are doing it as a personal project or to leave behind for their legacy, for their families.

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<v Flora Brown >And many of them who are into genealogy, their stories are full of them documenting things that have happened, but also they're telling the emotional and other sides of the story.

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<v Flora Brown >So I've just fallen in love with this and especially because the whole population of people who don't think that they're writers don't know exactly where to go because if they go to a class about how to write a novel, that's not what they want to do.

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<v Flora Brown >Or they see a lot of programs about how to publish your book, how to become a bestseller.

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<v Flora Brown >That's not what they're looking for either.

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<v Flora Brown >So I like what I do because you don't have to be a writer.

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<v Flora Brown >And the people who think that they're not writers tend to be the ones that turn out to be the best because they don't come with these lofty ideas and high expectations.

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<v Flora Brown >And then they're shocked when they can turn out a story.

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<v Flora Brown >So what I'm doing now, and I started off with six-week classes.

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<v Flora Brown >I've moved more into shorter pieces because like everything, people's attention spans have gotten shorter.

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<v Flora Brown >So now I'm interested in what I call micro memoirs, helping people write what I call one memory at a time.

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<v Flora Brown >And the name of the program, the program that I was trained in, their motto was two pages at a time.

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<v Flora Brown >But I decided to switch it to memory because page count and word count doesn't matter if you are sharing a memory and if you can share one memory, it may be two pages, it may be a half a page.

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<v Flora Brown >So with my own memoir right now, I'm writing 52 micro memoirs.

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<v Flora Brown >And each one of them is about, you know, whatever aspect of life from childhood through now that I want to talk about.

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<v Flora Brown >And those kind of things can be put in order later if you want to chronologically.

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<v Flora Brown >But I think it's a big mistake for an amateur writer, especially to start off trying to write a chronological memoir or life story.

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<v Flora Brown >So I have a technique to help them capture their memories and prompts to get them to writing and get them to see they can turn out much more than they can.

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<v Flora Brown >And then they, you know, we can decide how they want to share it with their families.

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<v Flora Brown >It can be in writing, you know, the typical manuscript.

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<v Flora Brown >It can be in audio.

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<v Flora Brown >It could also be what I recently created, collaborate with another lady who's an expert in digital storytelling.

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<v Flora Brown >It can be a video with you telling a segment of your story.

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<v Flora Brown >All of those things, your loved ones are going to be so happy to have when you create those, but we have to create those now while we're alive and while we have the presence of mind and the access to our memories.

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<v Rev. Ali >Oh, I'm so grateful for everything that you just said, because I've been thinking the last few years, my kids have no clue of my life, as I had no clue of my mom's life.

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<v Rev. Ali >When my son was eight years old for school, he interviewed her.

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<v Rev. Ali >That was the first time I learned my mom's mom died in childbirth.

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<v Rev. Ali >My mom didn't know she had siblings until she was six years old and was returned to her families.

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<v Rev. Ali >Oh my gosh, that's such an important thing to do.

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<v Rev. Ali >And all the different ways you were saying it, and wow, I'm just glad to be here because it's like the impetus I need to actually get this thing written or videoed, because I've done that for other people.

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<v Flora Brown >Right.

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<v Flora Brown >You know, we're good at doing things for other people.

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<v Flora Brown >And I'm the same way.

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<v Flora Brown >Someone can ask me for help with something and boom, I jump on it and I get all these ideas and tell them things to do.

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<v Flora Brown >And then to try to do those things myself, it's a different approach because you have all of the other things going on in life.

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<v Flora Brown >And we all have to fight that lack of confidence.

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<v Flora Brown >And another big problem I have is overthinking.

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<v Flora Brown >When I get ready to create something, I just overthink it.

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<v Flora Brown >And even when I finish the rough draft or when I finish polishing it, now I'm overthinking it again about how to get it out to the public or how to make the social media videos, for example.

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<v Flora Brown >That's helped me a lot, however, with watching especially what younger people do and other artists do, other creators, it has given me a lot of permission to myself to just get on the microphone and do something.

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<v Flora Brown >Say what you're going to say.

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<v Flora Brown >Don't spend hours trying to polish a talk.

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<v Flora Brown >You're not about to give a State of the Union address.

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<v Flora Brown >You're sharing something personal.

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<v Flora Brown >So I've learned a lot from watching younger people make their social media videos.

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<v Flora Brown >And so my kids and some of my friends are surprised to find out that I have a TikTok account.

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<v Flora Brown >I have an Instagram account.

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<v Flora Brown >I make Facebook, you know, the same videos you can post on Facebook.

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<v Flora Brown >And I have a YouTube account that really needs to be revived.

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<v Flora Brown >So I jump in there and do things like I say.

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<v Flora Brown >Sometimes, I mean, most times I don't know what I'm doing with social media because it's changing, changing, changing.

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<v Flora Brown >And as soon as I think I have figured out how to do it, I go in there and the buttons have moved to a different place.

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<v Flora Brown >They have new features.

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<v Flora Brown >Every time I open anything and it says, we have great new features, they think that they have done us a favor.

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<v Flora Brown >They have not done me a favor because I think, oh my God, I come from a generation where you learned how to operate, your stove in the kitchen and it worked the same way all of your life.

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<v Flora Brown >You learned how to operate your radio when you got to television, you learned how to operate that, you learned how to drive a car, even the stick shift, but it stayed the same.

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<v Flora Brown >It didn't change.

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<v Flora Brown >You didn't have to learn some new skills to drive that car the next week, the next year.

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<v Flora Brown >But now we're in a different age with the social media and it's changing constantly.

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<v Flora Brown >They're improving, I think, it and offering features.

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<v Flora Brown >Every time you go to make a video and perhaps you, I don't know if you do social media videos, but you can bet that there's some new way to do something that you don't know how to do.

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<v Flora Brown >You end up pushing buttons and sometimes you push one and now it's published, and now you get, how do I unpublish that thing?

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<v Flora Brown >Yeah, it's a different day.

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<v Flora Brown >We have to adapt as all generations have had to adapt.

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<v Flora Brown >As you get older, it's harder because you want to just, I know you're writer and you're performer, you're a singer and all those things.

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<v Flora Brown >You want to do your craft.

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<v Flora Brown >You don't want to think about all the technology.

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<v Flora Brown >That's why people who are, let's say singers, somebody else goes out there and sets up the mic, the sound system, somebody else designs their outfits.

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<v Flora Brown >All of that stuff, they can focus on the singing, the craft.

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<v Flora Brown >Unfortunately, when you are a solopreneur, an entrepreneur, a small business owner, you have to do all those things and it's daunting.

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<v Flora Brown >But I jump in there and do it anyway.

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<v Flora Brown >Sometimes I amaze myself.

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<v Flora Brown >Sometimes I go, I can't believe you did that.

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<v Flora Brown >But I keep going.

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<v Rev. Ali >I can believe you do because you do everything so well.

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<v Rev. Ali >I would never know that you were jumping in.

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<v Rev. Ali >I just jump into things and I just let the universe guide me, and I don't perfect it.

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<v Rev. Ali >I was watching this info on MrBeast.

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<v Rev. Ali >I've had a YouTube channel since 2007, so I went over a thousand videos, and it's talking about how he gets a million views and everything because he has a whole staff and they're perfecting everything.

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<v Rev. Ali >You know what?

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<v Rev. Ali >I'm not going to perfect everything.

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<v Rev. Ali >I wouldn't spend the time and energy to do that.

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<v Rev. Ali >I'm just so grateful to be listening to you.

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<v Rev. Ali >I only do YouTube and Zoom because I can then share it.

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<v Rev. Ali >I wouldn't have any idea how to go into the other social media and do it, and I don't have an interest in doing it either.

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<v Flora Brown >Well, one thing, if you do want to do those things, excuse me, my way of doing anything is to try to learn from somebody who's already doing it and offering classes and so forth.

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<v Flora Brown >But eventually, I throw my hands up and say, okay, that's enough training, that's enough listening to other people's instructions.

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<v Flora Brown >I'm just going to jump and do it because there's a point at which you're never going to get to that point where you think you have it perfectly ready to go.

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<v Flora Brown >And like you say about Mr.

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<v Flora Brown >Beast, they're trying to perfect something.

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<v Flora Brown >I think these days trying to perfect things is a mistake because people are more interested in the authentic you, how you got to wherever you are, and what is it that you've learned that can help them.

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<v Flora Brown >And they are much more forgiving than my people.

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<v Flora Brown >Sometimes I think about when I was a kid and we were being raised by very strict adults.

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<v Flora Brown >If you had a five line Easter speech to give at your church on Easter Sunday, we rehearsed that thing up and down on crisscross.

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<v Flora Brown >And if you made a mistake, it was just so humiliating because we were expected to do it perfectly.

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<v Flora Brown >And I think that's a big mistake to try to do these days because people, and I'm sure you can agree, if you're listening to somebody and they are talking from the heart rather than from a script, then you can tell the difference.

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<v Flora Brown >And you are much more likely to enjoy it, you're more likely to learn from it, and certainly you're more likely to trust that person to be able to help you if you choose to get help from them, then you are somebody who's perfectly polished because polish can easily wear off and fall apart.

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<v Flora Brown >And there you're standing naked, symbolically naked with just you and your ideas and the audience.

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<v Flora Brown >And you can deliver very well under those circumstances.

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<v Flora Brown >I'm not saying it's not good to make some notes and think about what you're going to say, but sometimes when it comes out, if you're being authentic, it comes out a little differently than what you planned.

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<v Flora Brown >So I appreciate that the younger generation are so spontaneous, and that's why they seem so assured of themselves.

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<v Flora Brown >I ask my youngest daughter sometimes how to do this and how to do that.

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<v Flora Brown >She goes, Mom, just start pushing the buttons and figure it out.

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<v Flora Brown >She resists trying to tell me how to do things because at the, you know, after all is said and done, that's what you're going to have to do, is push some buttons, see what works and hopefully know how to delete if you haven't already published.

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<v Rev. Ali >That's, gosh, I wish I had known about this many years ago.

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<v Rev. Ali >I was writing an autobiography for a very dear friend and we recorded everything.

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<v Rev. Ali >And I spent a whole week in going through all the, they were all audio recordings, renaming them.

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<v Rev. Ali >So I know how to put them into the book.

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<v Rev. Ali >I renamed them by the topic and ignored the chronology.

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<v Rev. Ali >And I couldn't figure out the chronology and I never wrote the book for him.

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<v Rev. Ali >Oh, this is, I don't ever want that to happen again.

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<v Rev. Ali >So I'm listening, paying attention to everything that you're sharing.

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<v Flora Brown >Yeah, the chronology, you know, obviously when you were writing for someone else, only that person knows the chronology.

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<v Flora Brown >But even when you're writing for yourself, I don't know that the chronology matters in the big picture.

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<v Flora Brown >It matters when you're telling the story, a one story, one memory.

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<v Flora Brown >But those can stand alone.

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<v Flora Brown >I don't see, you know, there's a trend now where many people are doing what they call micro memoirs, flash fiction, flash memoirs, where they're just focusing on a series of things that are not in chronological order.

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<v Flora Brown >I think it's more important for the reader, whether it's your family or a reader who's purchased a book, it's more important for them to get the essence of your story.

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<v Flora Brown >You know, how did you feel?

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<v Flora Brown >What did you learn from it?

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<v Flora Brown >And so forth than to have everything in perfect order from birth to death, you know, type thing.

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<v Flora Brown >That's my view.

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<v Flora Brown >And I think it's probably why I hesitated to write my own memoir long ago, because that's how most people would advise you to make an outline, start with, you know, first grade, second grade, whatever.

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<v Flora Brown >And that's just not the way most memory works.

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<v Flora Brown >You can force it, but I prefer to do these spontaneous memories.

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<v Flora Brown >And so now I have a hub.

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<v Flora Brown >I call it a hub.

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<v Flora Brown >It is a hub where I, what is it?

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<v Flora Brown >It was created by productivity people.

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<v Flora Brown >Notion, I don't know if you've heard of it.

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<v Flora Brown >It's a place where you can put, you remember Evernote?

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<v Flora Brown >A program called Evernote?

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<v Flora Brown >Okay.

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<v Flora Brown >This one is similar.

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<v Flora Brown >I never mastered Evernote.

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<v Flora Brown >Notion I haven't mastered either, but I do use the aspect of it where when I come up with an idea, a memory from my past, I can go over there and type in a few words about, excuse me, the memory, and then leave it and go on with my business.

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<v Flora Brown >And when I get ready to go back, I can retrieve that short memory and expand that story.

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<v Flora Brown >Because if you have the trigger for the story, you'll remember the rest of the story.

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<v Flora Brown >But it's like anything else.

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<v Flora Brown >You'll remember something for a moment.

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<v Flora Brown >If you don't quickly write it down, it's gone.

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<v Flora Brown >And it may come back.

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<v Flora Brown >But that's the way I do right now with my micro memoirs.

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<v Flora Brown >So I have a bunch of them that I have not fully fleshed out and written, but I know what the essence of the situation was.

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<v Flora Brown >And little by little, I'm getting those done.

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<v Rev. Ali >Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Rev. Ali >Boy, did I need to hear that.

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<v Rev. Ali >I put all these notes on little...

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<v Rev. Ali >Each one's its own note.

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<v Rev. Ali >Then I have to remember, where did I put that?

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<v Flora Brown >Yeah, that is a big problem.

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<v Flora Brown >And some people seem to be intuitively organized, and some people are not.

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<v Flora Brown >I used to be a lot more organized than I am now, but digital organization is another animal from paper organization.

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<v Flora Brown >You can still do paper organization.

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<v Flora Brown >Digital organization is wonderful and amazing if you know how to do it, if you learn how to do it, and you mastered the idea of naming and placing things.

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<v Flora Brown >That's what it's all about.

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<v Flora Brown >And I've looked at people who really know what they're doing, and I'm just amazed at how they can retrieve information because they have organized it.

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<v Flora Brown >If you haven't organized it, you've got to have trouble retrieving it, because it's going to be like you're trying to put your friend's book together without having identified those times, those timeframes in the sequence.

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<v Flora Brown >You can't know what goes where.

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<v Flora Brown >So you have to have a system like that.

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<v Flora Brown >If organization or if having things chronological is important, then you do have to have some kind of system.

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<v Flora Brown >The other thing you can do, of course, is backtrack in time.

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<v Flora Brown >And that's what I do with my stories, the ones I'm writing.

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<v Flora Brown >Sometimes I will have to backtrack, what year was that or how old was I, so that must have been that year.

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<v Flora Brown >And if that's important, it's not necessarily always important to the story, but details do help paint the picture.

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<v Flora Brown >And I was writing about the other day my experiences as a teenager growing up in my church in St.

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<v Flora Brown >Louis, Missouri, when they started a youth group and how I joined the youth group and how wonderful it was to be in this group because our parents, the girls' parents, were not very liberal when it came to us going to parties and being with boys.

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<v Flora Brown >But this youth group, leaders who took over, they would host parties and things for us because they understood kids wanted to get together and socialize.

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<v Flora Brown >So we had a lot of fun in those years.

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<v Flora Brown >But I was writing about one incident, and I was trying to remember what year and make of car these leaders had because those of us who didn't own cars, our families didn't own cars, they would haul us into their car and pack us in there and take us home at the end of the evening.

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<v Flora Brown >And I was just bothering, what kind of car did they have?

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<v Flora Brown >So fortunately, I still have a few friends my age from that era who are alive.

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<v Flora Brown >And that's another thing that happens as you get older.

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<v Flora Brown >You can't always retrieve this information from other people either if they're no longer alive or they are having mental decline or something.

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<v Flora Brown >So I quickly texted one of my friends who's in Georgia.

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<v Flora Brown >It probably would seem like a random question to anyone else, but I said, hey, do you remember what make and model the Coles car was when we were in the youth group in St.

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<v Flora Brown >Louis?

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<v Flora Brown >And we're talking decades ago, right?

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<v Flora Brown >And it's funny because he texted back immediately.

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<v Flora Brown >He said, I think that was a 1956 Chevrolet, blah, blah, blah.

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<v Flora Brown >He was giving me a little detail.

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<v Flora Brown >But I don't know how significant that detail is, but it bothered me that I couldn't remember.

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<v Flora Brown >And fortunately, I could.

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<v Flora Brown >Of course, our leaders are all past, and many of those students are past.

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<v Flora Brown >But it's interesting how you can find that information in some way, shape or form if it's important to you.

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<v Flora Brown >And at the end, you may end up not even using it in the finished product, but you have it.

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<v Rev. Ali >I want to be sure people know where to find you.

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<v Flora Brown >Let's see.

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<v Flora Brown >The best place to find me is probably my website.

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<v Flora Brown >Maybe not the best, but it's easy.

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<v Flora Brown >florabrown.com.

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<v Rev. Ali >That's easy.

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<v Flora Brown >That's my website.

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<v Flora Brown >If you know my name, you know my website.

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<v Flora Brown >When I'm up to date in keeping things current, as soon as you go to my website, whatever is at the top should be something current that I'm doing.

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<v Flora Brown >However, I do have it organized by free resources so they can see which things they can download free.

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<v Flora Brown >I have a free quiz you can take to see where you need help with writing your life story and things of that nature.

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<v Flora Brown >In addition to that, I also have an Instagram account.

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<v Flora Brown >When you go to my website, of course, you're going to get all that information will be there too.

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<v Flora Brown >In my Instagram, I use my name Flora Brown, except I have to add something because there's zillion Flora Brown I discovered.

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<v Flora Brown >I just add Flora Brown to you, the number 2 and the letter U.

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<v Flora Brown >I use that same handle on TikTok.

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<v Flora Brown >Then over on Facebook, when you go to my profile, let's see what did I do for my profile?

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<v Flora Brown >I guess that's where you start over there with Facebook.

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<v Flora Brown >I think it's this Flora in Brown, it's my profile.

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<v Flora Brown >I'm going to send you information that you can verify to put this on your contact.

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<v Flora Brown >Starting with the website is good because everything should be there and somewhere you have to find it.

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<v Flora Brown >Usually the social media things are at the bottom, but there are also the links at the top.

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<v Flora Brown >You can click on my blog because I have a blog there.

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<v Flora Brown >You can join my newsletter and all of these things are on my website.

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<v Flora Brown >I encourage people to jump over and learn about what I'm doing.

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<v Flora Brown >I'm pretty harmless.

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<v Flora Brown >I don't bite often.

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<v Flora Brown >I'm more than happy to point people to what can help them whether they take my class or not.

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<v Flora Brown >Because sometimes people will want something that I don't offer, or that I'm not offering right now, or that I think someone is better at sharing with them than I am.

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<v Flora Brown >I'm very much a teacher and a mom, so I want to get people to the right place.

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<v Flora Brown >I encourage people to contact me even just for information.

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<v Flora Brown >They don't have to worry that I'm going to try to pressure them into taking one of my classes.

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<v Rev. Ali >Lillian, thank you so much for being you, because you're an extraordinary person, making a difference in so many lives.

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<v Rev. Ali >I want everybody to take a screenshot, so they see all your books.

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<v Flora Brown >Oh, yep, you can see it.

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<v Flora Brown >I've learned from experience, not because I thought of it myself, that if you have books or something to promote, you need to let people know about it, because people cannot buy a book they don't know exists.

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<v Flora Brown >They certainly can't take a class they don't know exists.

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<v Flora Brown >So I found during the Zoom years, once we started with the pandemic and we were doing so much online, that it was probably smart to just have my books behind me.

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<v Flora Brown >All of them are back there, but some of the key ones.

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<v Flora Brown >That helps people to know what I'm doing and they can ask questions about it, and gives me a chance to promote something.

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<v Rev. Ali >Well, thank you so much and all of the links will be in the show notes.

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