Seforim Chatter’s Nachi Weinstein Reveals His Top 10 Haggados — A Special Sit-Down

The Haggadah is the one Jewish book that refuses to stay “finished” because every generation keeps rewriting the margins. As Pesach gets close, I sit down with Nahi Weinstein, the voice behind the Seforim Chatter podcast, to talk about how he built a platform for Torah books and Jewish history, and then put that obsession to work on a deceptively simple question: which Haggadah should you actually bring to the Seder table?

We start with the origin story, from a Twitter account that posted new sefarim to a podcast that grows into 450+ episodes, and the behind-the-scenes reality of doing it yourself: equipment, editing, SEO, affiliates, sponsors, and why “content is king” isn’t a slogan when your listeners are choosing what to spend their limited attention on. Then we move into what everyone really came for: a personal, usable top-ten Haggadah list with one strong rule driving it, go to primary sources and don’t hide behind compilations.

The list spans the whole spectrum of Jewish life and Jewish publishing: the Maxwell House Haggadah as the cultural baseline, the Lego Haggadah as a surprisingly effective tool for kids, the Sarajevo Haggadah and the world of medieval illuminated manuscripts, and heavyweight commentaries like Rabbi Elazar Fleckless and the Vilna Gaon. We also travel through Italian Jewish Torah and end at the top with the Abarbanel’s Zevach Pesach, the early-printed classic built around 100 questions that reshape how you read Maggid.

If you’re searching for the best Haggadah for your Pesach Seder, a meaningful Haggadah commentary, or just a fresh way to make the night smarter and more alive, this one is built to spark debate. Subscribe, share it with a friend who always buys a new Haggadah, and leave a review with your pick: which Haggadah runs your table?

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Transcript

Why It’s Called Sefarim Chatter

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Nahi, welcome to the show. I'm gonna introduce you as the Sefarim Aficionado, the Sefarim Buff and Maven. And the first question I want to ask you is how you came up with the name Sefarim Chatter, the name of your famous, legendary and widely popular Sefarim Torah podcast.

SPEAKER_01 0:23

Thank you, Mahom, for having me on your podcast. So the name Sforim Chatter is interesting. It started off with, for those who remember, it's like a if you know you know type of thing. I had J Music Chatter. At that point, I was interested in Jewish music, and there was this J Music Chatter channel, if you will, a Twitter account. It was not much of anything. And because of that, I decided that you know there's no new Svarim. No one's really posting about new Svarim. So I said, I'll start something about Svarim. And I took the name and I just said Svarim Chatter. Now, how did I come up with the name Jay Music Chatter? I don't know. It's a good question. It's just like one of those names that What's J Music Chatter? It doesn't exist anymore. You won't find it. Like I said, if you remember it, you'll remember it. I used to post about Jewish music on Twitter way back in the day, many years ago. So Svarum Chatter was just a little bit. Wait, no, no, no, no.

From Jewish Music To New Books

SPEAKER_02 1:14

I want I want to hear because part of the reason I like to start with that initial question when I just say, What's the name of your podcast? Why'd you get to Swarm Chatter? Because I like to do that before I actually introduce you. So that's like the hook at the beginning. We bring everyone in. And now uh Nahi, you are world famous. You are um you bring to the Torah world and the the broader wisdom-seeking world something that is unique. Something that from a yeshiva boy to a 65-year-old Balchuva surgeon, they're really interested in. I've even heard there's somebody that's a fan of yours in Norfolk, Virginia, who listens to you while he's swimming. He has waterproof headphones. And he said that while I spent many years in yeshiva, I've learned more about Judaism from not my rabbis, but from Nahi and the Svarim Chatter podcast. High praise there. Uh so tell no, I so I think that we can bring a really unique aspect here. There are people that like and know the Svarim Chatter podcast, they can now know a little bit more. Tell us how you actually started the show. What is elaborate for a second just what is the Jewish music Twitter? How you decided to then go into Svarim? What was the first episode? Just give us two to three minutes about that because I think it'll be fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 2:30

Sure, absolutely. So, like I said, the name came just from happenstance from the J Jewish music thing. Now, the podcast is like this. When I started Svarim Chatter, it was a Twitter account posting new Svarim, and eventually it became new books, academic books, Jewish history books, so not books like novels, but I was posting books from Torah Thought from Art Scroll and Feldheim and Mosaica Press and Koran, and then gradually academic books. So Magnus and Bialik and Barlana University and so on in Israel. And then here, you know, Princeton and Yale and so on, academic books. Now it was just that's literally what it was. Um I I've been a podcast listener for many years, going back to 2020. There was the first podcast podcast.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

So Colin Coward?

SPEAKER_01 3:14

No, not a Steelers fan. I'm a Steelers fan. There were Steelers podcasts. So that's what I was listening to back in the day. But not wait well before most people were listening to podcasts. Certainly, you know, it was less popular than it is now. And so I always wanted to do a podcast. Actually, a year before. So, okay, let's fast forward. So now Svarim Chatter, I start this Twitter account. We're in 2016, 2017, somewhere over there. And a couple years later, I decided I want to do a podcast. And I had a couple of different ideas how I was gonna do it. Was I going to have a co-host? Was it going to be, you know, I wasn't sure. Was it gonna be new Svarim, old Svarim, rapid fire style, in-depth style? I wasn't sure how it was gonna go. I actually recorded one or two like clips. One day maybe I'll released it from the archive. They were like unfinished, and they were going to be the Swarm Chatter podcast. It wasn't going to be what it is today, but I had this idea. I put that aside. I was studying for the LSAT, getting ready for law school. Things happened. COVID happened. I didn't get a chance to do it. But at the beginning of COVID, everyone was inside about six years ago, right? And so I decided, you know what? Let me just go record. At that point, Swarm Chatter was anonymous. People knew who I was, but I hadn't shown my face. I didn't say it, my name wasn't there publicly.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

How many followers did you have at that time?

Starting The Podcast During COVID

SPEAKER_01 4:22

About a thousand, maybe a little more. It's a big number. And I think the numbers in those days of Twitter, those were real. Like if you had a thousand, it was a thousand. It wasn't AI bots or whatever. It was like real numbers. Twitter was like a big Mantiv. Yeah. So I decided I'm gonna go and I'm going to record a podcast. And the first podcast episode was just me talking about Svarim. I think there was the new Shamak Dalim then of the Khidah, which is like his bibliographic work. It was from Mahon Amor put out. There was a safer called Im Labina, Rabiaak of Emden. It was Rabyakov Emden's marginal comments on his um Kreskit Dailis, which is in the British Library, I believe. And so there was a new edition of that. And he had meant it as a safer. So Im Labina, the new edition. The first edition, rather, came out for manuscript. And so that was the first podcast. I did another one. It was done live on Twitter, like the worst way to jump, you know, a podcaster, jump from it live. And then the third episode, I had my good friend Israel Mizrahi, Mizrahi Books in Brooklyn. I had him on as a guest. I had Antovi Bashevkin, a couple other. How many episodes are you up to now? Now we're up to over 450 episodes. So and that's not including ones that are recorded. I probably, including the recorded, unreleased ones are about over 500, probably around 500. So this was a long, yeah, this was, but at the time it was just record and release. I was recording them live, and it started off doing again interviews and so on. So that's really how it started. And then that's that's really where we are today. And by the way, today I'll say it's still on Twitter, but mostly more or less I'm on now WhatsApp. There's a WhatsApp community, new books, news foreign book deals, and so on. That's really yeah, that's really, and there's a WhatsApp status.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

How do you support the show? I mean, in order to, I know that uh there costs subscriptions in order to host a podcast. There are subscriptions that you need in order to edit a podcast, in order to have video and to have audio and to have production and to have editing. You fit the bill yourself, or you raise money?

SPEAKER_01 6:05

So I'll tell you, when I started it, um there was very little editing, very little of anything involved. I didn't even have a mic. Like I had nothing. I literally just started using my phone and I had a Mac and I just used my computer recording to my computer. Eventually, yes, got equipment and so on. There also is subscription costs. I mean, they're not as you know astronomical, but there are subscription costs. But again, yes, and and throughout, it was just me. Now, the podcast in the beginning, uh, like didn't make any money. Like the Twitter account. The Twitter account for years didn't make any money. I mean, it's only later, more recently, we're on an Amazon affiliate and some of the publishers, Art Scroll, Mosaic, a core on their affiliate. So you post links and displayed on the Swarm Shadder website on the Swarm Shadder website in the description that it's an affiliate. Use a link right or on a commission, as you have to do. So it's it says it there. Um there are generous sponsors, there are those that really are appreciative, enjoy the podcast. Gluck plumb may give them a shout and some others, as well as there are those that want to just support the show, you know, support the show, and there are those that want to promote advertise the product. But I tell this to people often, and I'll say it here you start a podcast, something that you're interested in and good at, and you have a niche, and then eventually, if you're good at it enough of listeners, you'll make money. But don't go into it like I'm gonna do I'm gonna create a podcast to make money.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

I don't think. And you know, it it when I started, uh I also started during COVID. COVID was really bad for a lot of people, and it caused a lot of deaths. But I I got married during COVID with uh 25 people, 30 people in at my wedding, you know. Um actually the whole world shut down. I moved back to Virginia. Uh I was in Shizuchum for a year, ended up marrying somebody in Virginia after a year in Shizuchum running around, got married, the world still was shut down, moved back to Eric's moved back to Lakewood. I wanted to go to Eric's show, but of course it was closed. Moved back to Lakewood, got back into the KOL, and by the time that the world opened up again, I was married. I think I already had a kid, and I already had and I started and oh anyway, I'm getting sidetracked, I digress. But I started a podcast because for that exact reason. Not that I wanted, well, I wanted followers and I would love to make money on it, but because I actually had another similar idea where I loved to create obligations for myself. So let me go ahead and pop open a microphone and I would say a Dvar Torah and send it out on WhatsApp. And some people liked it, some people didn't. Eventually I figured out that if you could just master your website and and and SEO and share with the right people and mess with the algorithms, even if you have nothing to say and you're a brutal unlearned Ama art, you still can become viral and you know, tell your friends to hit the like and subscribe button. You can learn all about it. But to this day, there are episodes that will have a lot of views and a lot of listens, and some will have barely any, except for my mom and my grandma, who should live and be well, the biggest fans. But it I would still do it even if nobody listened. Because I want to either interview someone because I love to learn or because I want to preach some idea or something. Anyway, what's your favorite episode you ever recorded? Favorite episode and no hard feelings. It doesn't have to be a rabbi, it doesn't have to be an academic person, it could be male, it could be female, it could be right wing, it could be left wing, the most enjoyable podcast episode you ever recorded.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

I still go back to the first episode of Matt Goldish in Shopsate V series. I think that series is really what launched Swarm Chatter in a way to the wider republic with the Shop State TV series. I still got comments on it. That was the first big series we did on Swarm Chatter, and I had a lot of fun preparing for that, recording that. I still remember talking to where I where I was when I was speaking to Matt Goldish before I even recorded that episode. Someone suggested I reached out to Matt Goldish to do an episode of Swarm Sight SV. Did so. He's a great guy, a friend of mine now, and that was a really I would say that's the the still number one.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

Shabside Svee, can we say it's interesting. I mean, you what do you you must have spent hours on it? Did he just have schizophrenia or or just probably had a little case of bipolar OCDism?

SPEAKER_01 11:08

Yeah, you read Gersham Sholem. You can listen to the series and read Gersham Sholem's 1,000-page biography, essentially. There's much more to the story than that, but if you just and you record everything from your house, you live in Lakewood? Live in Lakewood. Um, recorded from my house. Now, many of them, most of them as we're doing it here over Riverside.fm, used to be over Zoom back in the day with poor audio quality. Uh and uh I do do some in person now, though. So I did one today in person. So sometimes we do, especially the small talks very often.

Costs Sponsors And Content First

SPEAKER_02 11:38

So I'm not uh yeah, we don't need to elaborate on. I'm sure the audience knows about your small talks, your long talks. How many is it now? Um I'm trying to keep up, but I worked, I started from the first episode, and I'm trying to work my way forward. I forget how far in I got. Small talks are daily, weekly?

SPEAKER_01 11:53

Small talk is every Wednesday. Those are twenty they're supposed to be 20 minutes or less. Recently I've been very strict about that. Tried to cut it down for a while. They crept up a little bit longer. They're really focused on a book. It's very short. The questions are, you know, really what's tell the listener about your book, what's your book about, what are your sources, give some examples, who's the book meant for? What are you trying to accomplish with the book? And so on. They're very book focused. Um, it's easier for me to prepare for. There's much less prep involved, and so on. Those are on Wednesday. Sunday are the long form episodes.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

Love it. I love it. Weekly, I look forward to it. I look forward to it. I listen in the car. Audio podcast is such a good avenue, right? And especially with 24-6. Do you get most of your listings down with 24-6?

SPEAKER_01 12:34

That's a good question. I I think it's still Apple far and away.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Far and away. Interesting. So for audio, for me, the the it's harder to get to rank for some of these words that I'm trying to rank for, like parsha's vayakel pekute, or rank for inspirational Torah that'll make me happy. Like ranking for that on Spotify is very hard on Apple Apple Podcasts. It's interesting. Uh, I could not rank without paying money for uh some of the words Torah and Parsha and Musar, but I rank for Ravgamliel Rabinovich, Rabinowitz, Rabinovich, the great goddamn why. One time we mentioned him in an episode of Vart, he said, and ultimately AI algorithm picked up on it, and now we rank like number one or two for Ravgamliel. So you never know how exactly you're going to be picked up. So you do everything by yourself. Nobody helps you.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

No. I've also I also do the editing by myself. In the beginning, I didn't edit much. Now I do edit. I will say I want to give a shout out to Usher Tesser of Control A. Uh, he helped me. Who's Control A? Who's Usher A? That's Usher Tesser. That's his company. So he does um now with a lot of restaurant stuff here in Lakewood, but he did some work about with podcasts. And so he helped me with my music. He was like, we're friends, and he was like, nah, you gotta get some intro music, you need to get some cover artwork for some series. So we did add some special effects, so to speak. But I I think, and I still think this, and you know, and I improved my audio quality using Riverside.fm versus Zoom, using proper microphones. Oh, you switched over. You did it, you started Riverside? Yeah, Riverside for three years already. But but I do think at the end of the day, it's all about the content. And this is the feedback that I get, right? Of course, listeners want a crisp, good audio experience. They want music, they want a cool cover artwork, but it's it's that's that's that's gravy. It really needs to be good content, good guest. The host should come prepared, should be a good and interesting topic, and and that's what works at the end of the day. Those are the episodes, the episodes with certain guests or certain topics, I the numbers are much higher than the other ones.

SPEAKER_02 14:41

That's it. Cash is king and content is king. That's it. We'll listen to a well-informed superstar analyst with their microphone on their iPhone over the most incredible people always. I don't know if they ask you, do you get questions like, hey, I want to start a podcast? What microphone should I build by? Do you get questions like that or something?

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Sometimes. But but even but even then, let's say I'm using a short microphone. I mean, so it's 200 and 200, 200, 300 depending on you bought. I mean, it's not an astronomical cost to buy a mic.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

You can start with$19.99. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

Yeah, I have I have the get well the g I use pod mics also for the guest. Pod mic is$99. Great mic. So yeah, again, the point is you do, you shouldn't get good good equipment. You should be well prepared. You should have a good laptop.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

But how many how many how many Svarum do you have in your Savarum collection? You're sitting in this cool library. How many Svarum do you have?

SPEAKER_01 15:33

First of all, what qualifies as a safer? Are we talking about only Svarim Svarim? What about academic books?

SPEAKER_02 15:39

This is like my dad. My dad always says I asked him a question. Explain. Ask my dad a question. I'll say, well, explain exactly what you want. I want you to elaborate upon your your your brilliant and sprawling and diverse collection.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

Okay, so I'm in my library. I have a study downstairs with a more classical. This is in my attic. So if I had to count, I'm looking at a shelf in front of me. So I don't know. Let's say there's about 18 to 20 Svarim per shelf. Um and in here. How many shelves do you have? I don't know. It's a good question. Behind me is a lot of history and academic books and stuff like that. Well, well, Svarim.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

Yeah. I'll I'll say one thing. I'll add one thing. I mean, one secret, I guess, so to speak, where it's not. Tell the people.

SPEAKER_02 16:29

Tell the people what they want to know.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

I am someone at this point in the past couple years. I'm interested in history and I'm interested in Svarim. My tastes in Svarim are older, really freely sparm as they say, not Heideggus Varm, not your classical Yeshivish stuff now. So a lot of that stuff I gasp. Got rid of. So, you know, I don't need it. That's not something I'm interested in. It's not something I'm going to use. So I have meaning Rishinim, tons of Rishinim, early acronym, good new editions of that. I have tons of that. So I don't, I don't have as many Svarim as you'll think because I got rid of Svarim and I get rid of books as well. It's necessary. I have so many books and so many Svarum. You could talk to my wife about it. There's books you're showing up.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

I still never forgave you. You used to post a picture one time giving away Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch's collected writings. I haven't forgiven you for it.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

I have a lot of Herschel stuff. But yes, if if you'll if you'll see um like the amount of books that show up here, I think there if there's if I come home and there's not a book delivered at the front door in the mailbox, there's a problem. There's usually a book, a free book or a book on order delivered here. So I have to get rid of things, and I do get rid of things all the time. That's cool. But yes, I do have a lot of books.

SPEAKER_02 17:27

Well you should just open up, you should just open up the Swarm Chatter bookstore online, and then all the free books, you know, you could just move them quickly right out the door, or maybe put them. That's right, not just on the WhatsApp status. All right. Tell us your most priceless book. No, I have a better question. Let's frame the question with a question with a little bit more drama. There is an intense moment where you need to flee from your library with your family, and you can only one grab one safer from your library, from your attic, from your shelf. You have to go grab one and you can't think. Which safer are you gonna grab?

Guests Outreach And A Real Estate Plug

SPEAKER_01 18:01

Springing this question on me without preparing me beforehand. I didn't put this in the notes. So, no, you mean by which is okay, it's good. A spontaneous answer. So priceless, are we talking about dollar-wise, or we're talking about just personal? This is you got you can't think. There's too much. I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you an answer. So, I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna be a cop out. My my favorite safer, if you tell me I'm just fleeing, I need to grab a safer, I I always revert to my Shea Magdailum, the Kidah's bibliography. It's full of information, history, tirah, it's fascinating. That that was that was what opened my mind to the world of Jewish history, and so that's what I'll always revert back to. Again, it's not a price, it's not an antique. Um, and I have those as well, but that's not something that, you know, if you're asking me what am I gonna get, that's what I'm gonna go grab.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

Amazing. Amazing. No, that's i i everyone's got like a uh a romantic safer something that they just love to know. Hopefully, hopefully. I know I don't even own a copy of the Sheymak Dylan. I always thought it was just more of less of a list of names with insertions explaining what each one of the names of these rabbis are or is.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

A lot of it, but it's not all of it. So he has different in the beginning, he'll have talking about, you know, why we're why why do we not see any Tanoyamram? He talks about Avram and like he says, why don't you have so he goes through names, he talks about like there's a whole he goes off on a whole tangent about what you can name, and he quotes my pit says that you're not allowed to name anyone before Avram Avenu. So you can't have a kid named Adam or Nayak and Christian, and then they're like, Where did you get this from? What are you talking about? Of course, that's not, you know, and so on. He when he talks about the Shalashub's Minashamayim, one of the Balithoisas, who would ask questions and he would get an answer. He would put the question under his pillow, wake up, he would have an answer in the morning. He goes through the whole thing of Tirabashamayami.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

How can you ask a question?

SPEAKER_01 19:47

You can't paskin from that. So there is Torah there besides many stories. He'll go off when he's talking about various qudil and then he's so it's a it's a fascinating work. I'm not your typical in that degree, it's not like a classical saver, but it's uh very important work.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

Totally. Um we at the Motivation Congregation podcasts follow the derek of Reb Aron Lopiansky in in in almost all Hashkopha matters, in every Hashkopha matter. He talks about you know everything, and and he's also he he's how do you say when when a great Torah sage is also so scholarly and so intellectually honest, and every time that he gives, he gives these m once-monthly uh historical documentaries about the great rabbis uh working their way all the way back from Tanoyim Amaroyam. He was working through all the great rabbis in Swas and and um now I think he's up to the Ramad, uh he just dropped a podcast. But almost um almost every historical source or every episode, Rabbi Lopansky will say, Well, where do I get my information from? And far and away, the number one source for all historical facts and information, and one of the only places that we actually can trust is the shame haggidylum. That's where it comes in cross paths. How do you find all your podcast guests and hosts? How do you find it? You just reach out and DM people. A lot of times, also when you jump on the episode, it's like you're best friends with the people. Because you just start and say, Wait, I'm gonna do an imitation of you. You start and say, Okay, Mr. Safari, welcome. Please tell the listeners a little bit about you and where your background's from. That's how you start, right? So you start episodes, something like that. I forget. How do you say it? Please tell us.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your background. Yes. So this just came to be that question, first of all. And I just eventually I started asking. In the beginning, there was like one or two episodes I didn't ask it. And the get the listeners are like, Well, you didn't ask it. I want to know about this person, or he didn't answer a lot or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

Put it on a t-shirt and a bumper sticker. Sparm chatter with the colors. Uh, what's what is the sentence?

Why The Haggadah Gets Endless Editions

SPEAKER_01 21:48

That was our Purham costume this year, this forum chatter. My kids want to be Sparum chatter, we dressed up like Sparum Chatter. But I I will answer your question like this. Um, you know, you're asking a personal question, where do I get all the guests from? So it's really ideas, and some of it is crowdsourcing, people suggesting ideas, even people emailing me, hey, I want to be a guest, what do you think about it? Whatever. And some of it's just ideas, and I'll just blindly email. Yeah, I'll email Professor Alimero, whoever, and say, hey, do you want to come on? Now I found in in sometimes people ask me, well, how'd you find that professor's email? Well, it's public information, just go onto the university page or try to find it. Not everyone, a lot of them. I find lately it's getting harder, or maybe because I know for myself, the AI and these bots just send you crazy emails one day, so you ignore a lot of blind emails. So I think sometimes people don't answer me. So what I'm trying to do is like if there's a new book, I'll ask the press, can you reach out to that author? I'm interested, see if he's interested or she's interested. I'll reach out to someone that I might know that might know that person just because it got a little harder. But generally, yeah, I just email them and like and listen, at this point, it's an established known entity, so people generally know me when I email them, or people reach out or make suggestions. So it kind of is easier at this point.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

How come how come you don't? I I was I have a referral, I think, coming your way. You're a real estate attorney. How come you don't promote your services on your uh Swarm Cheddar podcast?

SPEAKER_01 23:02

Negligent, I should. You should. If you're doing any real estate New Jersey, come to Weinstein Law Office PC, you can reach out to us.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

So yes, they definitely you can also you can also, if you're gonna plug yourself, I'm gonna plug my. Myself, first you should reach out to the realtor at Michael Brook at ImperialNJ dot com. And then after that, you'll say that you heard about us through this episode, and then I'll say I'll forward you when we need an attorney review over to Sparm Chatter.

SPEAKER_01 23:26

Yes, but that's a valid question.

Criteria And A No Likutim Rule

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Um okay. The reason for the episode why I wanted to bring you on is because far and away, no safer has been published in more editions, uh more frequently, more voluminously, uh, than the haggadah. It's unique, the haggadah. We're coming up to the paysach season, or if Hirsch calls the spring holiday. And uh the entire it's interesting, we get a manuscript, we get a instruction and directions on how to go about the entire paysach season and to give over the Torah, to give over mitzvos, and the haggadah may be the most unique and and and awe-inspiring Jewish safer ever been produced. And I wanted to bring you on to ask you about your top ten, that's how they do in social media world. I want to hear about your top ten all-time favorite haggados. I want to hear from a Sepharium buff from the weird hala weird haggadas to the silly haggadas to the most exciting haggadas to the ones that deserve honorable mentions. I want to start from 10 and then I want to work our way to number one. And hopefully this way, the goal will be that people will learn about new haggadas because people are constantly buying haggadas. Maybe people will learn about new insights from haggadas that they already have. And ultimately, I would like to infuse a bit of Torah and some uh perspective in it so that there is some real Torah content here, because we are talking about Pesak and Haggadah. Um and in order to make it us have criteria to have the top ten, um, I don't know if you want to let me I actually put it uh I put the ball on your court. What did you ha have as the criteria for one of a haggadahs to become part of your top ten list?

Maxwell House To Medieval Manuscripts

SPEAKER_01 25:30

So when you initially approached me with this podcast and you gave me that question, I was trying to think top ten, I said maybe top five. It's hard to come up. That's like a number, like a I don't know where that number comes from, like top ten. So what I was thinking is I was as yeah, exactly. As I was preparing for this, if you don't mind, I'm gonna tweak the question a little bit in the sense of you know your question is acceptable, but in the in the sense of I don't think there's a top ten, whatever. And I'm not one to to judge and be like that's the best agada or this agada. I think for for personal use, I'll I'll change it for personal use, and I I think what people can benefit from. And so I have two piles next to me. I'll talk about it. I have Hebrew and English, ones that personally, and there are many others that I don't have in front of me that I have on a shelf over there that are fascinating, very important. Every year I try to look at a different agada. I will add one more thing, my personal message. Caveat. Right. One more caveat here, which is I am not a fan of Likutem in general, whether that comes to anything. I know that they're super popular, and I'm not here to detract from that. But what I'm saying is personally, go to the source, take a primary source, read the primary source. So when it comes to me, and what I'm gonna recommend, I'm never gonna recommend a likut. Could be that likud is phenomenal and that you will benefit and you'll really enjoy it, but I'm just not gonna recommend it. Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it. I'm not gonna recommend that book. Love it. Just do that. Love it. That just knocks out many hagadas, okay? And I just knocked it out. Maybe, maybe the bulk of them. So that's first of all, okay? I want to mention that. Now, I have some English ones and I have some Hebrew ones. I don't know who's gonna be listening. I just want to pull out some recommendations personally. So I can start with the English. You want me to go from bottom to the top?

SPEAKER_02 27:05

I want to I want to start with the one that's on the that let's start from to your right hand. You have two sections from your right hand, the top book that'll come in at number 10. The top safer.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

So well well, I I I did it the other way. So the top book would be like my number one. So you would so don't give it away.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

So let's start from the left hand on the bottom or wherever you set it up.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

Okay, so well, the bottom ones are just some fun ones that I think because again, for me, there are so many that I'm not I'll I'll give an example. I'll just give an example before I start with the number 10. Like the Orkhal Shokhan's Hagadah the Orkh Shokhan, who's a big place, wrote a haggadah. It's a wonderful haggadah. It really is, and he goes through the hagada. I I don't have it in my must-have, you know, the Nitziv as a Hagada, Imre Shaf, right? In-depth. A really wonderful Hagadah. The Nitsiv. Mays and Nisim, right? I I didn't include that here. Doesn't mean I didn't go, I actually never went through the whole thing. Looked at parts of it. So there are many here that are not here, so it's like hard for me to say like top. That's why I'm like, there's a personal what I've gone through personally, what I enjoy personally. So, okay, so I have a number of English ones.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

Wait, we have to do a sound. I'm gonna do a sound like intro so that you can start for number 10. You know how they do it like on ESPN, like coming in at number 10, you know. Uh number 10, yeah, what do we got?

SPEAKER_01 28:15

So I think at number 10, you have to start with a basic, with the Maxwell House Hagada. I maybe it's 10 star. I I know I and I asked you in Virginia to go with the Maxwell Sagada. First of all, there's a personal connection to the Maxwell Sagada. You can go back in the Swarm Chatter archives. I interviewed my uncle, Ellie Rosenfeld, who is the CEO of Joseph Jacobs Advertising. They started the Maxwell Sagada with Max House Coffee decades ago, and they still do it. The Maxwell Sagada, the current translation, was revised, actually. I don't think it says it, but by my grandfather, Mr. Henry Frisch, and he lived and be well. And so actually, there's a personal connection there with that agada. That's just a plain translation. I just want to give it a shout out. I think it's important to give it a shout-out and to mention that Hagada in the beginning.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Is it embarrassing that I don't I don't actually know? I've heard of it and seen it. Is it embarrassing that I don't know about it at all?

SPEAKER_01 29:03

A little bit. Because that's like the classic haggada. You go to shop, right, you buy products, and they give you the haggadah that is like the agada that's that's the most popular agada in uh history.

SPEAKER_02 29:11

Meaning it's your favorite because it's the traditional haggadah that will be. It's not my favorite.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

I think it's 10 star. It just has to exist, it has to be mentioned. It's a personal connection, it's very important. It's like the stone chlemish or something. It's just you got to it just is. It just is. It just is. I I actually have another one that I want to mention and I want to give a shout out to that really, really doesn't qualify as haggadah in some uh sense. But I think when we talk about Pesaknight and his Kaddish, shalom at Unikis, and we want to keep everything entertained. So I mean, we're doing this, the video will be accessible, I think, with all right, and there's and there's also the audio. So I I want to put it, we're gonna put this on Sparma China to put this on the motivation congregation. So I want to just do both. But Mosaica Press printed a few years ago, they printed the Lego Hagada. Now I wanted to give a shout-out to what is the Lego Hagadah? Well, some guy, his name is Saki Rossman, want to give him a shout out. He went and he took Lego and he created a haggadah based on Lego. So it's literally the Hagadah is literally going through that Gaga, each part is with Lego menshees. That is literally what the goddess is. So, in some sense, it's like that's ridiculous. That's not a haggadah what are you talking about? No, but it has the text of Hagada with the pictures of the Lego, and I think it's I I like to bring it out by the Seder. I think the kids really enjoy it, and if you have little kids, I think it's something that is it kind of brings the hagada to life in some sense. I I happen to like that haggadah. Again, we're not into the commentary part. This is totally different of like when we're talking about comparing it to like La Havda, the Mycenaean of the Nasebis, but I happen to think this is a really nice haggadah that really does add. When I first saw it, I was like, this is crazy. I remember when I put it on the sword shot, this is ridiculous. But the more I thought about it, I was like, no, actually, this is nice. It's trying to fill a very specific need, but I think it's nice that it's trying to do it.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Love it. You know, you know, that's what makes that's what makes you so bright in that and you're you're you're a man of many colors. You have the Mysanisum Hagada right next to the Lego Hagadah. That really brings out the the character there that's weighing in at wait, that's not number nine. That's just that's just uh what is that? That is that number nine? We can go however you want. Well, the Lego Hagada, if it's official, it's official number nine, the Lego Hagada. That sounds fantastic. Um, shout out who put it out, Mosaica Press? Yes. They're so good. The Haber family, Shui's amazing. Rabbi Haber was the was the was one of the Haber family members. It was a RUV in in uh Norfolk, Virginia, where I'm from. He put out a haggadah, an incredible haggadah. You know, one of the things about haggadas, I'm I hate to get off topic for a second, is some people write so much and that you can't actually you like miss out on the actual words of the haggadah. Okay, I don't I don't want to talk about myself.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Absolutely. I I think I think usage. So I want to let's go to number eight, right? Let's go to another one. Another one that I want to give a shout-out is to Number is to my friend David Bashevkin. He put out a haggadah couple years ago, the just one. One thought-provoking idea on each section of the Passover Seder with NCSY. And my wife uses this haggada every year. I don't use this hagada. So it's actually this is like number eight, but this is like my wife's sagada. She really, really enjoys this hagada. It's it's the NCSY agada. So you can imagine like who it's geared towards. But it's it's really fun. It's got these really fun illustrations and images, and it's kind of incorporated some very lightly, like pop culture and things like that. And it's it's just it makes it feel uh very relevant, I think. And the images are nice. Again, it's it's something that that um I think is very enjoyable to use. And as you as the listener can hopefully see, I'm going for hagadas that I think are when I thought of this is ones that you can use and user supplies. I'm not going for like if we're talking like top ten hagadas most purchased or yeah. No, but even like the greatest production, like I said, who am I to rank that? I think that's ridiculous. I'm not qualified to rank them. I'm talking about like haggadas that you're gonna use and things like that.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

The Rambam, Rambah wrote a haggadah, the end of his space, right? So you're gonna rank the Rambam is kind of correct.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

You're not gonna rank Hagadah. It doesn't make any sense. I'm just saying things that I so I happen to like that one. I want to mention if you want to go to number seven, I actually don't have it with me.

SPEAKER_03 32:59

Number seven.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

I want to think that most people think is like, and maybe this should be number one, by the way, but let's just say it's the little measure says haggadah. I think for many people, this is the number one haggadah. It's a phenomenal goddamn, it's not in front of me. Absolutely phenomenal agoda. I don't have it in front of me. I couldn't find it. It's somewhere in my house. That is uh I I I think number seven or number one. I think that's just an absolute All the Little Major Cess stuff.

SPEAKER_02 33:21

That's like that's what I grew up on. We had, I don't know if you have it in you grew up in Lakewood? Yes. Uh I don't know if you have it. We had this thing called like groups, like sh like during Musaf where the Kinderlach would run out to and one of the members of the community would bring everybody back, and we'd play gaga and eat bubblegum and listen to stories about the parshell. And we always was based on the little Medra says. And some of the most foundational points of the parshell came through there. That it's always well done and always share some of the most paramount points of that topic. So very nice selection, if I may say it, number seven.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

Okay. So six. Okay, six. So six, I I think is just I have to stick this in here. I don't know if it really belongs here, in all fairness. Um maybe I should have picked something else, but I do want to mention the Sarajevo Haggadah so the Sarajevo Hagada is maybe the most the Sarajevo in Bosnia, it's maybe the most infamo the most famous Hagadah um in the world. Well well, talk to us as not scholars, it's just regular kids. The Sarajevo Hagada is a Hagada that was discovered in 1894. It's a haggadah that was written a manuscript. There are many manuscript haggadas. Uh, this is from Spain, I believe it's 13th century. I I could be wrong. Just going a van. And this hagada was created but using exquisite craftsmanship, um, the art, the color, the images. It's a it's an absolutely gorgeous hagada. I have a facsimile of it. It's absolutely beautiful. Um, I actually did a podcast years ago with Professor Shalom Sabar, who was an art historian on it, and you can see through the study of Hagadah, like that they actually, the artist was actually incorporating various different uh medrashim going through it. And it's actually fascinating to see like which medrash the they were going with as they drew the um so it it came out of the 1300s?

SPEAKER_02 35:05

Yeah, yeah, it's not printed.

SPEAKER_01 35:07

It's it's a manuscript. There's no commentary, it's just a illustrated haggadah. There's some very fascinating things about it. One of the most fascinating things is in uh in Magid, I don't know if you could see it here. Yeah. Everyone around the table, and there's this dark-skinned woman here that nobody knows who it is. It's actually in the subject. One of Gerald Darren Brooks' novels talks about it. Like it's actually for part of a novel. Everyone trying to figure out like who is that in the haggadah? What is that person doing there? Again, I don't think it's very necessary to include it. There's also the bird's head haggadah where the mystery of why everybody in the Hagadah has a bird's head in the manuscript. Maybe that's because you can't draw images of people. No one really knows. There's many other haggadash. These are the this I would I would basically I'm taking the Sarajev Haggadah in number six to lump it together with all these illustrated haggadas. There's something called illustrated haggadash. There's actually the Holzer family has published the medieval illustrated haggadah where you can see they have two editions. One is just with illustrations, one also has the commentary of Rabbi Joseph Salabajik through, and they included his commentary as well. And it's it's illuminated, illustrated. This was a thing in the Middle Ages, in the high middle ages. They would illustrate beautifully these haggadas, and they were very important. Remember, the Seder was the highlight of the year. For many people, they would sit down, every family, right? Maybe in some sense that's why the haggadah is the number one book, is because um that is when the father, every father, every family leads the Seder. So for this reason, you know, I just want to lump them all together and keep them all in mention.

Fleckless And Haggadah As Serious Learning

SPEAKER_02 36:28

Now does it have the same text, same script? Is it the same, like there are very there's slight variations, but yeah, it's more or less the same. Uh-huh. And it's images by the do we know if that person is a holy Torah scholar or just a good artist? We don't know. You can read up extensively on the Sarajevo Haggadah. How much am I paying for it if I buy it? The facsimile? I I don't know what word you just said.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

Okay, so that's it means a photocopy. The Sarajevo Haggadah is one of there's only one of them. It's housed in Sarajevo, it's priceless. The manuscript is worth millions. There's photo, so you can buy like if someone made high-quality scans, photocopies on them. The one I have was done by the museum in Bosnia. I don't think it's available. I'll give a shout out to Menachem Butler who sold copies a couple of years ago. I don't think it's around anymore. Um wow. It comes with a complete book analyzing all the arts and where it was coming from, the madrushim and all the history of it. It's a fascinating read uh by Professor Shalom Sabar. It that's again, it's just I want to get. How do you read all of this? When do you when do you work to learn? But I want to, I want to, I I just I just want to say I'm basically again lumping together many other illustrated, the Prague Haggadah, and then there's various Amsterdam Haggadash, all the illustrated haggadash manuscripts and then print. I think there's a lot you can learn. And again, going with that whole theme of you can add on. So now now I can go, where are we up to? Number five, number six, and number two. I think that was six, right? So number five, I can finally, we can finally talk about to a commentary. I want to mention Haggadah Shapesak May sub Rabbi Lazar, not Elizer Allazar, Rabbi Allazar Fleckless, who actually it's going to be his 200th yard site now, and I actually uh recorded a three-part miniseries on Abalazar Fleckless. Uh this that series was actually sponsored by Mahon Netsachiakev, who published this Hagadah. They did a phenomenal job. Rabbi Fleckless was a Tamil Movak of the Night of Behuda. He's the Night of Behuda's prize student, and he has a number of Svarim, Chuvme Ava being the most famous. That's his uh Shalvis, his responsa. And his Haggadah is really just wonderful. Like everything that he does, he was a wonderful writer. He wrote Pimelitzsa, so he would weave into his words quotations like the Khidah, quotations from Tanakh and from That only if you're a scholar that you pick up that is a very good thing.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

Yeah, it's hard sometimes to read.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

Yeah, and so it's really what language is it? Regular Hebrew, regular standard Hebrew, it's a wonderful, wonderful God. Very, very enjoyable haggadah. Um it's not you have to get used to his writing, um, that flowery right style writing of Prague, but once you're used to that writing, it's very enjoyable. Highly recommend it.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

Wow, wow. And and and well, let's just say if we open up on that haggadah, read us one line from I I'm always interested to hear, like, of course, there's a lot of ink to spill about Maggid, but what are their what are their comments? Let's say is he writing about Nirtsa? What does he say? What does he say about Khadgadya? Does he have something that's not?

SPEAKER_01 39:15

So many haggadas don't talk about Khadgadja because it's a much later edition, right? It's not really standard part of the Haggadah text.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

Is it not? That sounds controversial. It's in my Hagada.

SPEAKER_01 39:23

Well, it's there, but it's a much later song, right? It's it's a later edition. So many Haggadas don't have it, and most my first time don't talk about Khadgaja. And it's a whole interesting song.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

I thought it was that the grah says that this is Yeah, but it's not like your standard.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

He actually does have a little bit on uh on Khadgaja, but actually, um this is uh an interesting and he has a little bit of an interesting kind of piece. So but yeah. You would not like to share it with us. It's kind of I'll have to go through it. I want to go through it in the issue with you. But yeah, that got it.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

Got it. Okay. So that's coming in at number five. Was that six or five? Five. That was five. Wow. We are breaking into the uh more exciting and anticipated uh 4321.

SPEAKER_01 40:11

If you want to here, I'll give I'll give you an example for my servalazer. Just just I'm taking from my highlights here, what I highlighted and noted here. So where he's talking about um in the beginning of Magid, Brother Meinu, he says, right? If Hashem would not have taken us out of Egypt. So what is he says is that so again, this is the middle of a piece, so he's other parts that he's saying, but just taking out a snippet. Zeshua Amar Maggid, this is what the Magged is telling you. Diktik Loimar, he's been with Daktik, he's trying to tell you, Elu Lohitsiak Barakhu, if Hashem didn't take us out, Ratsalimer meaning to say, Who baat's moi? God himself. He sent a malach, oy alideh of a khadaimer, he sent a emissary. But lovoyale, the shebu would possibly come back. A redemption, a gaula that's not done by Akkadesh Baruch himself, is not khaluta, it's not a definite gaulah. So therefore, Akadesh Barak himself had to take us out, and that's it. And he keeps going and very Gusma Kadiik. Just just uh pointing out one little thing, um, just to mention one little thing. And there's many other, again, it's a very fun, very fun, but I'm saying it's a very, very enjoyable Hagada. Right, another part. Avadomina Parab. He says, and you can see like his language here. Shaila achas ketana, annoyhi shoyel, big doylihi elai. I have one little small question. It's grave by me. Why do we give thanks to God? The Loimar and say, Akkodish barku, a son of him, the hulu, haraianu, venenu mushubadah. Right? If Hashem didn't say, would have been Mishogan, etc. Do you think Khalila Hashem's not gonna remember the bris? He made a treaty with Abraham, right? You think he's them for this? He's not gonna pull through. He promised he's gonna do it. Hashem promised, right? He said, after 400 years, God promised he has to take the Jews out. There's no choice. He doesn't have a choice.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

What's the big shvach?

SPEAKER_01 42:24

He says, Kashirik Shesi, Le Shoil, Burishino, I'll etc. Right. So he says veneer, and then he explains.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

Yeah. Give it to us.

Mahon Aleh Zayis And User Friendly Text

SPEAKER_01 42:33

There's a big distinction. Bein imha Evad Yoisalakhis Buratzin Rabboy. If the Evid leaves Buratzin Rabbi with his master allowing it, Shakroi, the master has to, he's forced against to deem him. He has no choice. So he's got no choice but to take us out. And he goes on, and you can read on and he says, Now he says, now you can see the maggot. I skipped the paragraph, but I just don't know. Right, right, right. The next one. A vodom in a paroi. And the new Hagada did a beautiful job. They bold the part of the text and then they don't regular text. I love that. We're going to be able to do that. He says, and so on. So again, just a little snippet and justice. There's it's a wonderful, wonderful Agada. Highly recommend it.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

Totally. Love that. Amazing. And I love that there's such diversification. Your chart toppers and vanguards are incredible. But we're moving on to number four.

SPEAKER_01 43:50

Yeah? Number four is actually the topic of my podcast. Number four. This coming week. And again, it's following in the same theme we were doing with the English, which is this is not the most groundbreaking haggadah that ever existed. It's not the most, you know, super commentary on the Goddah. But this is the Hagodah basically Alizayas of Mahon Alexayas, Rabbi Shimon Shimanowitz, wrote this Hagada himself, the end of the state. That's great. Every time you have him on, I listen from beginning to head. He's a great speaker, right? So great. So this haggadah, what's wonderful about it, and you can listen to the podcast and you can hear, I've used this hagada multiple times at the Seder, and that's why it's here. What he did was, and you know, he'll do a better job.

SPEAKER_02 44:25

Wait, wait a second. That's gotta be a likut.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

It's not a likut. He violates the rules. It's not a likut. It's not a likut. What it is, is he takes each part and he tries to, before each passage, tell you what's the history, where's it from, what's its basic background of each part. And then if you go through the agadha, right, the agadah is a compilation of drushes, and many of them are drushas of. So I have it in front of me, right? Saylumad, my bikes love and arami, lasasyakavinu, etc. And then we get up, and then now comes the pasik. Arami Avi Avi, bayarin's, say, Ma'at the Isham the Gai Godl Atsam Varav. Now, if you just read a regular agada, it's just a rarana. You just read that god. You read. However, he wants you to understand that there's a pasik. So the regular text above, he has a little bit, little, there's a little indentation. It says, Doyresh me arami avidavi. And then after that, he's gonna have the text, the entire pasik's gonna be in an italic. Mine it's gold, it's silver. Then later on, he's gonna have each pusik is going to be slowly bold. So it'll say Vajarid Matraima, that's gonna be in the metallic color. Oh no, so he had. Now you can tell that is a drasha. This is take a cham, El Logosham. And then it says Shanamar. So it'll have attack the the that whole pasik is in silver, but for lagur is a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 45:35

Without it, it's just a big long run on.

The Vilna Gaon’s Sharp Readings

SPEAKER_01 45:37

It's a mush. And you have no idea what you're reading. You're just like right. You're just running through mag until you get to the next var tyra. But if you think about it, that's not what pay sachiz are. That's not what the satyr is. You are supposed to rechaivate lyrics, you left him, and that you're eating supposed to go through each passage and you're supposed to read each piece and supposed to understand the so it's a wonderful god in that sense. There's some essays in the back, there's some far shim. In the in the back, it has some like black. He put you know, brings down something for your tira. Um he's kind of so that just for the usage, I think, and each part, you know, he try tries to bring you um I love it.

SPEAKER_02 46:10

I love in the I love in in in this in the in the great realm and and the bobbing and weaving of this the what people are interested in publishing Svarim, right? There was the the hundreds of years of of of when when Yeshiva Shish Svarim and everyone is involved in be Medaik the Rambam, and there's right, and there's hundreds of years where we're obsessed with Halaka, and there's great years where whether we have the Rishinim and the and the Svar. There's different um um um niches of Svarim that became popular in a Mahala Khalimud in different times during our diasporas as a Jewish people. And over the most recent um five, ten years, I am so much enjoying that. It seems like there's we kind of got very involved in in drush and haggadah in in for the haggadah in-depth mystical things. And it's very exciting how a lot of the haggadas are kipshuto. It's very exciting when like this type of uh of haggadah where we're getting back to the basics. We're trying to understand Voshte duh. There's uh there's uh the haggadah kipshutah in yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:15

Yeah, 100%. I agree. So now you want to go on to number three? Cool. Let's go on to number three. Number three. Okay. The haggadah of the grah. The Vilnegoyan. So the Villagoyan did not write a commentary on Hagadah. This is the commentary that was written down by his Tamar or Benachman Dosh Klove, and I think this is from the Gruh by his Seder. I I've used the the simple, simple Masaro Cook edition, which has the gra, and then Likuten, little collections from the gra's other writings. That's not all you could say for, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 47:41

If it's the grah, it's all loud.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

So I think the gra, it's wonderful, it's light, it's easy, you can run to it's systematic.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

I've never in my in my entire 28 years of life, nobody I never heard anyone say that the gross varum are easy and light.

SPEAKER_01 47:55

I didn't say this far from gross farm, easy and light. The haggadah should I think is easy and light. I I would I would say it's pretty sure. I'll give you uh a part that one of the. Have you ever seen his bare haggh? Where he says about the gr the gr of course. I'm not saying the gil the gun is easy. I'm saying the hagada. Again, he didn't write the hagada, it's his camera. Let me read you some of let's talk about the can I get Arabon to retara, right? Four sons. Who are the four sons?

SPEAKER_02 48:20

Wise, evil, one doesn't know how to ask, and the simple one.

SPEAKER_01 48:23

Okay, so who would you say is it let's say two versus two? What would you say? Put him in the right.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

I would say it is, I would say it's two versus two. The one who there's an evil one, and the one who doesn't know how to ask is probably on the bad side, and the simple and the good one are on the good side.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

Alright, I'll I'll explain I'll read you from the gra. Okay? Kidalid pa'amim nember batter of Mrs. It says mitzvah four times. Give there's three times a parish is boy, and one a parish viskana. And he says they're all changed and they're all different, and that's what's going on if you'd draws us. We're not gonna go through this whole thing, it's quite long. But I want to explain one part. He says Chacham, who Talmud Chacham. Okay? The Chacham is Atamak Chakam. Who's the opposite of Atalmak Khacham? Who's the opposite of Atamuk Chakam?

SPEAKER_02 49:07

Someone who doesn't like to learn Torah. Is that a Mavakish?

SPEAKER_01 49:11

I don't know. Is that the is that the opposite of a Talmud Khacham? Is that what's the opposite of Atalmak Khacham? A Talmud means a student. So the opposite of a Tamak Khacham is Anidelishal. That's the opposite of a Tamak Khachum. He's not a Tama Khakum, he doesn't know what he's doing. He says he's not a Tamil Khacham. It's not a b it's not a tzadik. I didn't say tzadik. See, that's the the grah is gonna come. You'll see it's not a tzadik. And the haggadah, according to the grah, is not a tzadik. That's a mistake. He's a tamachum. The opposite of a Tamak Khakhum took the grah. Anide alishal. Who's the other one of a tam? Tam is patmimus. He's a tomim. He's a tzadik. That's what a tam is. And how is the opposite of a tam? A Russia. It's a different reading of the hagadah. Wow. The name is the Russia. And he says the possibility in Eiv. It's a Tam and a Rosha.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

You see that, right?

SPEAKER_01 49:56

And he said, the Hayat Sarah Klimar Basedra has that. Zakta Gra, you have to read your Haggadah. When you get up to Abra Bonham this year, Chakam, Vishne Elishal, Tam Virusha. You're reading wrong. You're reading the Pasik. Right. Zakda Gras different. The wording. Now, again, that's not the standard. Most of us don't say it like this. I understand this. Right. Now, why why? So, okay, the question is, hold on. Why does it say Chakham Russia, Tom Shay Lishal? The order is wrong in that. Zaktag. Kiloy Ratsless Russia. We can't end with a Russia. We gotta stick them there. You don't end off with a Russia. And now it goes through extensively going through. I went through one year. This actually is my most heavily annotated Agata. I have notes all over this Agada. But I went through that. The Graha is a wonderful, wonderful Agada. There's some other wonderful parts of Agada, but that's the one of the big shim of the Grah. Wow. And it's a So who's number one?

SPEAKER_02 50:49

So the t the Tom is the is the is the good one.

SPEAKER_01 50:52

Yeah. Well the Khakim too. The Khakim's Tama Kakam. But then he goes through, right? Ma'id Zachim, the T Khakim says, Ma'id Kukumashpatim, right? So just to read you more, these are two shilas, the grah says. Ma'id Khukamashpatim, Bainukiba Pesakish Gimalyana, the three things. Aidos, the chukim, umishpatim. Aidos, kihein alan nisin van a floy. Who aidas the whole boy shina short of his soul? That's the eightus that there was a shina that shem wasn't short and calling so Vamashpatim and Dinah Mitzvah. Right. That's his first question. Shall Shnea, the Pesak Atman, Pesak itself. Right? So one is a Kegiga, one doesn't have a Kegiga. One, Mo It is a kukumish canal, like I just said. Base, asiva shamelakin' hasch, claimershem who echeluk.

SPEAKER_02 51:54

Wow, wow. No, this is a high level. This is a high level. This is not fair, because there are gonna be some people that are gonna be on the level that are clearly understand this.

Italian Haggadah And Fifty Plagues

SPEAKER_01 52:00

Maybe I'm sorry. I to me, again, it I thought it's very easy wording, it's it's put together. But no, it is, it is, it is. There's some other wonderful parts about the Holakha Anyo. There's really a lot here. I don't know how in depth you want to go with the Divri Tyri here on this podcast here, but it's really wonderful Hagadah about the Mayinu. He has some very interesting um concepts and uh very interesting things that he says in Abuadimino as well. It again, it's really uh highly recommend the Gross Hagada.

SPEAKER_02 52:25

The the all of the the you can only imagine that the haggadah do we actually let me side note do we know who wrote the haggadah?

SPEAKER_01 52:33

No.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

We have no idea. No, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 52:37

Just there's no theories. No, there's a lot of stuff that's in um many, there's a lot from from Mishnayas, Arip Sakim, Rush's Majrasim, and then it's compilation. You know, I'll quote Rabashimano Tadan Nagada. He says, Does anybody say who's the Balha Siddhir? Who put together the siddha, the current siddha as we have in its current iteration? Isn't it Achik Nashagada? But not in not in the current iteration that we have it today. That the core of the siddr, not the whole sidr. Right. So this is the same question. I mean, this is Judaism. This is Yiddishka. This is what we have. This is the Hagadah.

SPEAKER_02 53:07

Got it. Got it. Alright. You know, there's funny, there's a lot of different nuances of the of the Haggadah that only as I get older do I try to figure out why we do them. You know, like do you your family do you do you dip your pinky into the cup and take out some wine? You do that also? Of course. There's nothing exciting there. Everybody washes by you, by orchats, or just the tata?

SPEAKER_01 53:28

Everybody washes, but no bracha.

SPEAKER_02 53:30

Right?

SPEAKER_01 53:31

But most of you shine them. Hold on. You're supposed to make a braca, but we don't, etc.

SPEAKER_02 53:35

Uh-huh. Right, right, right. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 53:37

Okay. Before we turn to Allah podcast, let's move on. To number two. Number two is a personal favorite of mine. I many know I'm interested in and have an affinity towards Italian Jews and Italian Jewry. So I need to have an Italian. I enjoy them. I think they're interesting. They're unique. They're different. They were always. They were cultured. They were they were enlightened in a sense. They knew many things. They spoke. Well, they were, right? The Renaissance Italy. They spoke Italian, they're Latin. They did you can. Ramchal.

SPEAKER_02 54:09

Ramchal's Italian?

SPEAKER_01 54:10

Yeah, the Ramchal's attended. Ramchal attended the University of Padua, right? Remchal went to university.

SPEAKER_02 54:14

I listened to that one. So the Ramchal, there's a lot.

SPEAKER_01 54:16

Italians are very interesting. So and also Okay. Okay. So there's a Haggadah published called Medris Bachidish. So this was written by a big Italian goddamn yezer Nachman Fowah. He is a student of the Ramami Fano, not Pano Fano, and Rabazari Fano. So this is actually, which is not my typical, it's I would say very, very, very light Kabbalah on here. And also with Pshat. It's a really wonderful, fascinating agada. This was published by Machon Hoidve Hodder. Volvi Gutman Reich published it. He's doing amazing work. He's actually working on the Saver Gurin Arnon from this Godla as well. They publish a number of Soran, but it's it's a beautiful edition. There's a lengthy introduction for those that like history. There's some fascinating history in here. Introductions are the best. Anyone who's recorded. They also published the commentary of the Kim Khadavishuna. So the Kim Khadavishuna was in the Machser Minigbney Rhema. Minikbne Machir Minikbne Remah is Rome. The Italian Jews have their own Nusak. Okay, a preday Tashkenaz, and they have their own Nussach. So in that Mahzer, a commentary is written. It's anonymous, it's probably written by Bekun and Trevis from Italy, and this is 16th century, and believe. And so it's it's a compilation of Rishinim and other things, a very early Pirish. So they put a critical edition here in this Hagodah so you can see the very nice commentary to walk through, as well as the Rabazanachman Foa's Hagoda Pirish, as well as Likutan from him as well, from his safer Gur and Aron and others. It's a really wonderful Hagoda. Just one thing to point out. I'll give you an example of how unique it is. There's something that's extremely unique in here. We know when if you're still paying attention, you're not in a big rush to get to eat. At the latter point of magiri, basically the oymer basically says, You need the math brain for this too.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 56:05

So what were the fifty makas that happened? We only do it with the 10. What were the 50? Uh-huh. So Rabbi Medrid Bachedish goes through every single All 50?

SPEAKER_02 56:15

All 50. What what what give us some other what other machas happen that we don't know about?

SPEAKER_01 56:19

He he'll explain to you and he he breaks it down. It's written beautifully in the new one. So let's tell you, let's find a small one that we can uh read for the listener that they can understand. And he's dartioning really Azyashir. Okay, that's where he's coming from. That's I mean, that's the basis for a lot of that.

SPEAKER_02 56:35

Um before also. Like meaning meaning when when when Khlishrell is Vayitzak al Hashem and and Mitraim's there, and uh uh some other form of punishment also happened that's not included in the final cut of uh.

Honorable Mentions And Haggadah Pet Peeves

SPEAKER_01 56:51

Right, even before even before they went into the Yamsaf even has. So he says, he'll have over here, let's let's let's take this one. Uh shame a rua called them as a kolalaila the whole night, right? Haruh has a bilbulum vishomamum, ashuloka yy dim on a holkum. They didn't know where they were going. Uh sumim. Couldn't find the king cause a balaturium, bayoilek, abominus, bayolek, ashemasyom, the khad, bayolakam, shamraina. He's like, these are from other psokim for the okay, we'll just do that. Gabi Lishik, etc. etc. and so on. So he says, umami, lahula, have de melecharam, kimashivoran, haza, loi bolohemanu, ki hasam hochim hoyuba yom, vimken afkan misha, hayum royim how yoze. So each other Avahimushubashimakaruach, Azan is going to strong. He says Hare Kan Mako Kilelas Kalamakis, many makers in here. Ivoroin, Simon Levov, as darakovakir. So that's another one. There's another possible. They thought they were gonna be overtaking. Cloud covering gets very dark. They get very scared right away. The anonhahu Hayel Erech. Uh-huh. So that's also part of like part of the yom. He says, I'm I'm giving witness. If it happened to me at some point like this. So he's saying, again, and he goes through, he goes through each one, he gives you. Again, there is, like I said, some leicht, cabala things in here. Um, it's not in in the sense of it's not just like straight, it's it's like, yeah, it's a little bit your uh, you know, like I give for example, Avado Paro, he goes with the he says, Dover you doa, right? It's ever you doa and medrish, shakola paris and will cut him, koi dembishulum, in a meskayim vierkovu. Right? If you pick a fruit, cut fruit early, right? He says, and so on. He says, if it's too last.

SPEAKER_00 59:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 59:12

It's a very interesting, very interesting commentary, very fun, very different. Um, it's a wonderful.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

It should still be available, by the way, as well. I think the Italian Hagada weighing in at the is that number two?

SPEAKER_01 59:25

Yeah, uh personal. Again, a personal. I doubt that would be on many people's number two, but my personal.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

No, but that's the godless of of this is your top ten. This is something fine that well, before we get to number one, because we have to bring in some sauce and make it exciting before we introduce it. By the way, for the listeners, hopefully number one is obvious, but go ahead. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh when you're talking about Rabbi Rucham sagada? Which one are you talking about? You're talking about rehearsed sagada? No, you must be talking about uh I don't know. I can't, I can't I can't think of it. I can't think of it. You know, wait, before we get to number one, don't reveal number one. First of all, maybe we'll put in like a little commercial break here. Uh so you know, because you have to do it right before, you know, we'll be right back with the show. Um but run her up. Give me the most rare haggadah you've ever put your hands on. Rare. Rare. Antique? Antique rare haggadah you've ever had. I don't know if any.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:13

I haven't come across many rare haggadash, actually. Just sorry, cop bad answer. I do want to give another shout out. So, like I said, I think some of the early ones lower down, five and on, like were like not Pirushim and things like that. I said, like, I want I gave a shout out to I wanted to give a shout out to Urkhashokhan's Hagada, Lil Shimurim. Wonderful Hagada. I learned R Khashulchan, loved Urkhashokhan, that's a great hagada.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:33

I've heard you uh rant about that. I actually quote you one time. I think you said at one time that Rapsmul Kamanetsky told you that you can paskin with either the Kafa Chaim, the Uracha Shulchan, or the Mishnah Bruh, which whoever's the most making.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:48

No, I asked Rasul when I was in Philly, he said, Yeah, you're a litfuck? Urach Shulchan, Mr. Brucham, whoever's the most makeup. That's who you can pick. So that's gold. That's gold. Yeah, yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:59

So um there's a there's a And you gotta get the red, you gotta get the red Aracha Shulchan, the Aizbahada red.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:04

Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So there's there's again, there's a couple other haggadas that you know that I've I've used various different ones over the years. I want to also give a mention to the Beneshchai's Haggadah. Um, also there's a there's a klal, at least I have this claul. If you see a safer with a picture of the godla on the front, run far away from the book. It's probably not a real safer, but the exception is the Beneshkai. Somehow the Beneshai son is the kid, but the Beneshkai, if it's his cover has to be real. So the Beneshai is the Benishai.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:28

The Beneshchai is is is uh uh what's his name? Gebber has a podcast about the Beneshkai. The Benishkai is a coolest, most brilliant. If you ever have a shell in Agadah, look at the Marshah and then check out so so the Beneshkai is a part.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:41

MS Lamita Shalter. He quotes someone. What's the godah called? Hagada Benishkai? Uh you could find that the beneshkai, it has a name, but I have it so.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:49

It's all called the Benayadah it's all of the name of the five.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:50

No, no, it's a Benishka, but it has a name for it. No, it has a name for that goddamn. So he his Agada in the beginning he says, you know, Manashtana lets me call a lila. What's Manashtana? It's not a paraphrase. He said that the children come and they see you. You just start off that gota, holdmanya, dhikhlavasana, called Dikhvin, yes, v ekle. Right? Do you tell everyone come in and he poor man comes inside the house? So the kid goes, Tati Abba, whole year, the poor guy knocks the door. And you say, hey, give him a dollar. Close the door. I don't want to give Siddhartha. He says, now you're inviting them in? You tell them, come in. Manashtana Laila's let me call Laila's. Tonight you're inviting that Niamh into us? That's great. Manashtana Laila's at. Tati, all of a sudden he got kind? Mom is Emma Slamita. It's right in the beginning of the Benishka's agoda.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:33

Wow. Oh, that's I mean that's the I think that's gonna be like the uh the clickbait video image that we'll send around on social media. What a great. I love it. So Benishkai, we don't know what it's called, but that is another what other mentions? Who else do you want to mention? Spanish, German, English, Russian, fellow followers, subscribers, interesting haggadas, expensive haggadas, haggadas that made you upset that you wish were never printed.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:00

That there's too many to name. So we're not gonna go to the ones that made me upset because much of what's written on hagada doesn't belong. Like I mentioned, listen, I gave a shout out to the Lego Hagada. In the beginning, I was like, Lego haggadah? What was with the Lego Hagada? But again, I think it's interesting. Do you remember the Lipa Schmelzer Hagadah back in the day? I don't remember that. You don't remember that one. I'm sure many listeners remember that one. And there's many other such haggadas, even with Divray Tyra, that are just like, what is this? But I'm not gonna name names. We're not gonna do that. We'll take the high road and we'll leave that part out. There are a number of other ones. One year I used Rabish Lomatawena's Haggadah. He was a friend of the Beneshkai, he was the rabbi in Calcutta, India. He has a he actually wrote a couple of different newspapers. And so in Judeo-Arabic, and they published the Hagada, they're publishing number of his farm, they publish his Hagada. It's just fun to for me, like the story behind it. Like his Tara's nice and simple, but the story behind it, like this was a man, he was the rabbi in Kamata, India, and he was writing newspapers, and he was writing different tyrannizing about the Haggadah. I think that's a fun haggadah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:52

I mean, there are a number of if I had a penny for every haggadah that came out that was called the uh psychological path to freedom. That's a new thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:00

Don't okay. I said I'm not gonna name names. Well, that whole genre, not for me. But I just write the book and don't make it a pierce on the haggadah. I I enjoyed the uh haggadah, the Likuta Yasef Haggadah, which is uh Shamash Hagadah published a few years ago. Um there's also there's a really, really cool hagada, if you want, which is the Hagadah Besar Arn, which was written by a yid in Hungary. It was during the war, he was in hiding. He wrote, I believe, seven commentaries. He just said no s farm. He wrote a haggadah. It used to be the haggadah they sold was in the manuscript, and you that was the way it was sold, and it was just all these, it's seven different style commentaries. Al Khejvin, Alamdis, Alakha. Uh, it's there's a new edition of it. It's a fascinating haggadah. It's an amazing Pierce. The different production and the story is so moving. They found the manuscript after it was killed in the war. It's amazing. Hagada, I highly recommend that Hagoda as well. I think that you know what? That one should have should have gotten in the top ten. If I would revise it, I would remove one of the English ones and then the Lego Hagoda, whatever the Maxwell's guy would put that that belongs in here.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:01

We'll make the Lego and Maxwell and House Hagada just kind of 10A, 10B, and then we'll put this one in here at number nine or something. What's it called? It's an absolute hold on. For those not watching with video, Nachya stepped away to go get the safer, he has returned.

Number One: Abarbanel Zevach Pesach

SPEAKER_01 1:05:21

The Hagada Shall pay is like Base Avram, base Aharan. This Hagodah was written by Vram Arun Friedman. Okay, and this Hagoda has I'll read you the Mefershim, actually, nine. Agudas Azoyv, Aderech Agoda, Agada, Brechus Pekhman, Adarach Heshbin, Rua Khadosha, which is Hedushin, Hadeya Bahadibur Shitois Vinuschois, so various textual changes. I like that. I like that a lot. Marble Saper, Likut mi Majrashan Visfarim, it's a collection of Majrashan, and then Besaharan has four. Tvar Aran, Adarachapshat, He'er Aaron, Adaracha Remez, Bina's Aaron, Adrika Drush, Khokhmas Aran Adarach Soid Paradise. And the the new one is a beautiful, they did a beautiful new edition. But in the old one, I'll show you, this is how they used to it used to look. You can actually buy the check out the manuscript. Again, he was killed in the war. It's a wonderful haggadah that Godash Besakh Bes Avram, Bais Aaron. Fascinating Hagadah with many fascinating insights. Highly recommend. It is available for certain. And uh this is Haggadah. You want to pick up something unique, you want to bring something with a story, and something with a really geschmack, a very interesting shotin'. Highly recommend this haggadah. You can Michal, you can slot this in if you're editing or whatever. And if it's unedited, you'll just this should go in the top 10, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:29

I love it, I love it, I love it. I want to point out one other one. I I don't know where I saw it, but someone made a like a haggadah for the Bala Bus' leader of the Seder uh uh toolkit, toolbook. As if the Tati is really supposed to direct the Seder in a way that's educational and informative and has stories for the children to get them to ask. But if the father is unlearned or frankly just very busy and doesn't have time so much to prepare, I did find a beautiful hagada, which is the preparation hagadah the balabaisis toolkit, uh another hagada that uh for people the large print haggadah there's a braille haggadas, there are endless haggadas. Um I think this does bring up. Yeah, what do you got to say before we get to number one?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:15

So that's what it was. I mean, using the number 10 to highlight different, various, interesting haggadas, more than I'm sure there are people will be like, you may mention this, you mentioned that, such wanted to mention. Alright, let's do number one.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:23

Number one, the number one hagadah from Svaram Chatter, Nahi Weinstein's top ten list, is let me guess. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:30

You tell us. It's the goat hagadah, the hagada Zevach Pesarh of Rabdan Gaskhabanel. Unquestionably, this is the greatest hagadah in my mind.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:41

Just is. Why? Well, that's it. Like you might drop it. The Abarbanel, the Barbanel is incredible, but and you know so many suffer. Tell us in one sentence why you love this haggadah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:53

Full disclosure, I'm a huge fan of the Abhanel, always, all his works. But the Hagada specific especially, first of all, it's the first printed commentary on the Hagada. Okay, 1505. During his lifetime, he's in Venice. It's printed in Turkey. That's first of all. Um, but it's just the goat. You know, I was mentioning to Surly Bornstein, we were talking, and he's giving a Hagadah Shir now, by the way. Shout out, terrific Shir on the Agadah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:14

He's just so he's unfair. He's a cheat code. You can't be Tyra Ngadullah Bamakamachad. It makes all of us look bad. But either way, continue. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:21

And I said that the Rabbi Alan Hagada is like Ramban on Khumish. It's just that that's that's how good it is. So the Hagadah Shop Pesak, and by the way, there's a brand new, wonderful new edition this year of Hagodish Pesach Zevach Pesach. It's um published by Rabbi Yeshua Yosef Goldberg. He's published a number of Hagadash. The the N Maysenisem, he's published the Mays Hashem, he did a really nice job. So he does a little overkill slightly, but it's a really good job. So the Zevach Pesach is Abraham El Zagoda. What he does is he lays out his program is 100 questions. He has 100 questions and then he works with Agada to answer the questions. This is what he always does with the questions. Now, originally there's a really nice edition by Masharov Cook. Now, although Rabbi Goldberg points out that they they use the wrong edition, there are various girsa changes on that he says they didn't use the proper girsa in the new edition. Also, the one drawback is that Abraham also he did 100 questions, then the answers. So you can kind of get like a little stop.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:15

Taste of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:17

Rabbi Goldberg left it that way, but he also includes the questions again next to the answer. So when you're actually reading that God, you can see it. But the Abraham also has a very moving introduction where he talks about being you know expelled from Spain. Um it's quite moving, very interesting to see, very flowery. I'll just read you a snippet. He says, Community.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:35

Rich then poor, then rich then poor, save the Jews.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:38

Right, he went, he grew up in Port, grew up in Portugal, Lisbon, he ended up, and then he had to run away, lost all his money, went to Spain, rose in power there, had to leave an expulsion, went to Naples, rose in power, lost, ran away, Venice started in Venice very impatible. So but he but he says he starts off that god that came in the Uri from my youth, good lani, oyshabe a cavalry. I was raised with wealth and honor. Bayas Fajoy and Naklas Ovis, I you know, inherited a house and wealth, U Me Hashem Milo, U Romo in Malokin, the erretrebu be terrice, my advice, kings in their palaces. I mean, real kings, the power. Portugal and Spain is the powers of the world in the 15th century. He says, I had Toiro Gdullah. A vodim slavish fach is in maidservants. They ate red wool and linen, ki aver kotuvial pee dati. I didn't know the end. He had endless wealth and honor and prestige. I mean, you're talking that's that's the greatest of the power, but no, you're thinking of this is the richest, most powerful Jew in your generation. He's also one of the biggest Talmudekham Kdoilim in your generation. Unbelievable. Okay? And then he says, he says the king of Portugal changed him out, and then he had to leave. And it says Hashem, he talks about Hashem, I'm skipping. Destroy the Golden Shepisfarad. Hoyah Hashem Koyev Hashmoid Lara Igula Abbe, it's called him. He was using Malik, he chased that. Yil Yishlach Bomb, Kharon, Apoy. This is also right, Evro Vizam, Vitzor, Mashlakas, Malakim Michablim, Vashlik, Eratzaher's the Gorge base, Tanugim chased us out from our house of Tainug, the Jews of Spain had Merit Muray, etc. And he says, I was chased out, and I kept going. And and you know, he really writes on and on. He says, and then he talks about actually very sad. He says, they went and captured their children's sons. They didn't have Shem to save them. They came in the bitter water. What's that? Baptism. They baptized and converted to Christianity. When they when the expulsion from Spain, the degree in space. He says, and so on. Then he says, It's very, very sad to read the intro. This is a broken, I mean, broken sense. I mean, obviously, I probably not pick up he's broken, but this is in 1505. He's writing this after the expulsion. And he says, I remember the days, Ela Mayade, Oli, Kishli, etc. It's it's it's very moving to see. I mean, again, he's talking about he's talking about in in the ten questions in the 10th question, the 100 questions, rather.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:51

Amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:51

I want to read you question 10. He says, Some of the qu what's the tenth question? Kimaher Vaknu asked the Rabina, what did we gain? Ansha Golas Kama, us today in Golas Ayyuam, because sheatsu have a senior, but we left Mitsraim. But Shinomar to say, the Ido Current of Ms. We'd still be in Egypt. Maybe we would be better in Egypt than today. We are in Enro, they gall us Edoim and the Golas Shishmal. Wow. And what our fathers said, we want to go back to Egypt. It would have been better. And we can see this is these are the people asking. They were broken people asking these questions. I don't understand. How are we reading this haggadah? And what was happening to them? And he says, um, again, there's there's there's a lot here that go on. He has again, many different things. It's a fascinating. And he there's just also the haggadah itself, just the commentary. I don't want to only highlight that. So how a lot of that's very famous because he's like the OG. So holla.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:59

Sometimes something is so sometimes something is so famous that it's no longer exciting because it's so part of the classic Torah power line.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:06

So some of it, so he goes, Holla Khmanni, right? We start in our, why do we start in Aramaic? That's first called why in Aramaic? So he's kind of okay. First of all, he says the first question, the first answer that he says is he brings different answers. So some say, oh, because the mazikin don't understand, right? We know this answer. The demons don't understand. The demons don't understand Alash Kardash. So they don't understand Aramaic. I'm sorry, they don't understand Al Shakesh, but we say an Aramaic, they shouldn't have Rashus to come in. So he says, I don't I don't I don't agree with that. Well the Malachem also don't understand Aramaic, right? He says, one, the Mitsia Sashaidim. He has an issue with the uh Mitsia of Shaidin. Oh, I love that. I love this idea. First of all, I have a problem with this. Right? And the the Rambahman we're in a bit. I really have to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:42

Right, right, right. And magic and that's a problem.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:45

I just don't agree with this. Vashnian. Second of all, she have vinolash and crazy rabbis. You're telling me that demons understand only Hebrew and Aramaic? I got a problem with that too. Third of all, that they don't come to chaper with you only if they have permission. Like uh like the sun is being says, Kibeny Khamirav, the Evan. No, no, no, no, no. He says, no. See, he doesn't he doesn't like this. Okay? And he's again, he quotes Khaznah, whatever. He hasn't he doesn't he doesn't like this. He says, some people say Aramad O Ivid Abi because that the Malach Hashari shouldn't understand, and then they shouldn't start saying Shira Dasham. So the Malachashari is also, no, they shouldn't start saying Shirah. So that's why I don't have sense. He says, also don't send this because then it should have sent Bahal Shushirlazeh that should say the halal, why about this? And he has very different things. And then it brings other answers. And he wants to say, why is the answer? I think many know this. What do we say? We say call dikhran yes of called this when was this? Where were we living? We were in Bavel. What are you saying? Poor people come and come and eat. What do poor people understand? They speak the vernacular, they speak Aramaic. They need to understand what you're saying. So you say it in Aramaic. But then after that, you move on to Lash and Kay Dish.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:54

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:55

So that's as if there's some other one of the things. So he goes with the pshat that because we ate matza in Mitrayim. I think the moral doesn't like this. No, there's a big machai, because he says the the banana, many Rashadims say this. They were fed, they gave, they got they were they gave them matza. I believe he also says, just going from memory, that um also because he says it gets, as we all know, uh it gets stuck in your inner matzah is hard to digest. So he says this is what he says. He has to call it lachemoini as well. That's another reason lakhamoini.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:20

Right, right. My friend's father says, and the uh the four cups of wine, the fifth cup is prune juice.

unknown 1:16:24

That's what he says.

Where To Buy And Final Feedback

SPEAKER_01 1:16:25

Yeah, there you go. So then he another thing he says, he talks about the uh the mice, right? We get to the story. Where were they? For him is super babnabrak. Where's B'nabrak? It's not B'nabrak of today. Where were they? No, not with the Hazanish setup shop, no? Where's where's B'nabrak? What does the Barbanel say? Fancy cushions? They were sitting on pillows. B'nabrak is Barak, it's meshi, it's silk, the old drush. B'nabrak is fancy cushions. It was no place, it was uh that's what they were sitting on. Beautiful. Again, it's just there's so many things, but I'm just picking out some interesting things. But it's he goes through the Hagada line by line, he works through anyone that's familiar with the Barbanel al-Khumish, he works through line by line, he really goes through the Hagadah so this was uh when I went the first time I went through the Hagada Bi, and I was the first year-based manager in Philadelphia Shiva. I really had this Masarakada. I really went through a lot of the Hagada, and it's uh again, the new one is is available in the stores. Highly recommend the new one, it did a great job, and just in general, the abarban al-agada is just I think one of the barbell, it's just the issue obviously is too long, right? The joke is amazing. That's what I was gonna say. You know, the joke is the guy read the questions every week and then he fell asleep, so he was left with only questions on the homish.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:26

Yeah, that's the truth.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:27

Wait, wait, what is it? What is it? What is the pretty good question? Why the guy go off to Derah because he read a barbell every week and then uh he fell asleep after the questions. He never got the answers.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:34

They never got to the answers, exactly, exactly. The rah uh nabuch. The barbonell is is is we we'd be lost without the barbonell. But yes, it is hard for me and my short attention span sometimes to get through the questions and the list, but that is quite uh the unguessable and astonishingly outstanding list of the top ten hagottas. Where do I buy that got us? Where do you buy your hagglos? Where should we go purchase them? So online? Online?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:00

I mean, I hope they're not all available. Um Swarm, I buy Benny's farm, give a shout out to Beagle Eyes in the bookstore in Borough Park. Answer them on WhatsApp, call them Swarm here, Judeca Plaza on Lake Koras, the Berman, wherever it is that you buy Svarm.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:14

Got it.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:15

Amazing, amazing, Nachi. I you know, before before I get into the next questions, I gotta end the episode because otherwise it's gonna be longer than an hour and a half. Uh, I have so many more questions to ask you. Because each area is safer, and each author is its own world, and that's the beauty and godless of Tyra and the Total Creativity. This was fantastic. This is amazing. I hope that everyone will get uh excited about the unique haggadas that you brought. I hope that people will get upset because feedback's a gift, and when someone comes heated, it's it's exciting that they say, hey, why'd you talk about Lego Hagada? Or how could you talk about this Italian at me with that?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:57

Let's go. Yeah, let's hear the feedback. Exactly, exactly. I know it makes me look. I I was trying to show, again, my point was I wanted to illustrate top 10. Again, these are not the top 10, the Lego Godah, uh the NTSY Hagadah don't belong in top 10 agadas of all time. It's just I want to illustrate various different hagadas I think are important worth highlighting, and agadas that are for use at the Seder. Again, why I mentioned the Alice Ayasagoda. I think it's useful hagadah to use at the Seder. You're gonna learn beforehand. If you're gonna learn Hagadah, you want to learn Hagada, we're talking about Nell, Mays Hashem of Lazarus Ashkenazi, Mai Senisim other than a Sivis, or I think the Nitsiv, Imre Sheffer, Lel Shuren of the Arkhashogan. Moral, right? But Maral doesn't have a goddamn, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:33

Is it close enough?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:35

Yeah, and there's a there's a great Bharalapianski has that great edition where they put it together on that goddamn. So you get, of course, the Gras, like I mentioned, Rabba Lazar Fleckless, and others, and there's so many others that I'm not mentioning. So again, exactly. That would be the way to go through that goddamn unquestionable top 10, but different top 10. I was about just top 10, personal use, personal interest, personal use, and so on.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:55

Amazing. It's amazing. And I hope people one last caveat, then we're gonna end. Don't publish your own ideas on Ribhaim or on or on some R Kelm, and then call it a Kelm or Risker Hagadah somebody said Thira's Ribchaim, and it was it it I was excited, but it's it's it's not. It's it's it's his own stickle uh explaining it's anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:18

Sorry. Uh-oh, something triggered you.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:21

Let's for Ribhaim's tire, and I got his tire.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:23

Whatever. Listen, if you want again, like I said before, you want me to be negative on Hagadas? No, no, no. I could be very negative. I'm not going to do it, but there's a lot to be negative about various Hagadas. But I will I will end with one thing. Which I, you know, I think you mentioned before, like, more than any other book, there's more than any other safer, there's Hagadas. And listen, people buy them. Like, people buy any idea. They're looking every year, they want something fresh, they want something new, they want something different with a new angle, and uh, there's interest. You know, I did a whole bunch of small talks this year when I got this, and people listen to them. People don't really purchase them, there's interest.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:56

So there's definitely buttons at tyra, Ian Atira. It's all incredible. It's amazing. Nahi, I thank you for your time. Everybody, go like and subscribe to Nahi's Farm Chatter Podcast. Find him, go do hire him for it to be your uh real estate attorney. Make sure to listen to all of his episodes, start from the beginning. Don't forget to smash the subscribe button to the Motivation Congregation podcast. Don't forget to subscribe to the weekly Parser Podcast. Don't forget to subscribe to the Casa Fankinian podcast where I interview my father-in-law about all things real estate. Anyway, Nache, I thank you for your time. Have a great night, and I look forward to the next time I get to talk to you.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:32

Thank you, Michal. And if this ends up being posted as well on Swarm Chatter, I'll link to all the Motivation Congregation various podcasts. For those who are interested, you can go check it out and go check out your work and your WhatsApp status that I look at every day and your different uh channels as well. So thank you, Michal, for hosting me.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:47

Very good, very good. Have a good night, Naki. Good night.