The Role of Rest in Nervous System Repair

In this episode of The Women’s Mental Health Podcast, we explore the overlooked yet powerful role of rest in repairing the nervous system—especially for women navigating ADHD, burnout, and emotional overwhelm. Join Randi Owsley, LMSW, and Jessica Bullwinkle, LMFT, two licensed psychotherapists with 23 years of expertise in women's mental health, as they dive into the science behind deep rest, how sleep impacts emotional regulation in ADHD, and why doing less might be your most effective coping tool. Whether you're exhausted, stuck in survival mode, or struggling with self-identity, this episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking healing through rest and recovery. 

Get valuable information on The Role of Rest in Nervous System Repair—a deep dive into why sleep, stillness, and doing nothing can be essential parts of the healing process. Learn powerful coping skills and tools you can use to rebuild emotional resilience and navigate stress with greater ease. Find practical, heart-centered resources to help manage burnout, overwhelm, and neurodivergent challenges, all while honoring your need for rest and recovery. Whether you're healing from trauma, managing ADHD, or simply feeling stretched too thin, this episode supports your journey toward #WomensMentalHealth, #HealingFromBurnout, and whole-body wellness. Because yes—#RestIsProductive, and it’s time we treated it that way.

In upcoming episodes we’re diving deeper into essential topics that support your healing and growth. You’ll hear conversations on ADHD eating disorders and rest cycles, deep rest for trauma healing, and restorative practices tailored to neurodivergent women. These episodes are designed to offer tangible self-care practices and deeper insight into the mind-body connection—because your healing matters, and rest is a vital part of that journey. 

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What are common signs that your nervous system is overstressed?
Why do women struggle more with rest than men?
What are the best types of rest for nervous system healing?
How does poor sleep impact women’s mental health?
What’s the fastest way to calm an overstimulated nervous system?
How can busy women incorporate more rest into their lives?
How long does it take to repair an overstimulated nervous system?
Why is rest a radical act of self-care for women?
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Transcript

Randi: 0:19

Welcome back to the women's mental health podcast. I'm randy. I'm And I'm Jess. And we are two licensed psychotherapists, and this is a safe space where we talk about mental health, well being, and strategies for coping with life's challenges. And how all of this is normal, and you are not alone. Today we're diving into a topic that is essential for your mental health and ours, yet so often overlooked. Rest. We're talking about the role of rest in your nervous system, repair, the power of sleep, and deep rest, and why sometimes doing absolutely nothing is the best medicine.

Jess: 0:53

Yes, that is so true. So often as women, we are expected to do it all, career, families, social life, self-improvement, but without rest. Our nervous system never gets the chance to rest, and that can lead to burnout, anxiety, and even chronic health issues.

Randi: 1:11

Exactly. So today we're going to break it all down. What rest actually means. The types of rest that help the nervous system recover, how a lack of rest impacts women's mental health, and of course strategies to incorporate more rest into your life. So find

Jess: 1:27

us in more information at women's mental health podcast.com. Have you ever had these thoughts?

Randi: 1:33

What is nervous system repair and why is it important for women's mental health? How does rest actually help reset the nervous system? What are common signs that your nervous system is overstressed?

Jess: 1:45

Why do women struggle more with rest than men?'cause we do more.

Randi: 1:50

What are the best types of rest for nervous system healing? How does poor sleep impact women's mental health? What's the fastest way to calm on overstimulated nervous system?

Jess: 2:02

How can busy women incorporate more rest

Randi: 2:04

into their life? How long? Does it actually take to repair an overstimulated nervous system? That's actually a really good system. Question. Yeah. That's so huge.

Jess: 2:14

Why is rest a radical act of self-care for women? It shouldn't

Randi: 2:19

be radical, but it needs to be because we're, we're ignoring it. Exactly. Let's start with the basics. When we talk about rest, we're not just talking about sleep. Yes, sleep is crucial, but rest is an activity or lack of an activity that allows the nervous system to recover and reset. This includes deep sleep, quiet time, meditation, gentle movement, and even something as simple as daydreaming or staring out the window.

Jess: 2:49

I love to stare out the window.

Randi: 2:51

Yeah, like zone out. There's nothing wrong with that. No. There's nothing wrong with daydreaming either. Like some of my best. Business ideas and things come daydreaming. And Dale. Yeah.

Jess: 3:00

There's actually, we have all these people that walk their dogs and I'm always watching them. Mm-hmm. And I feel like I've got this family that I've seen grow up over the last five years. It's so funny, but you don't, funny. Don't really know them, but I don't know them at all. But I've seen her pregnant, I've seen her with the baby, I've seen her with now her toddler and her dog. And I'm always. I finally said something one day I am like, I know I sound creepy, but like I work right there and there's my window. I said, I feel like, know I've seen you grow up. He's, gotten so big. So the reason we're Talking about rest is that Randy and I intentionally took a rest, the last what, four or five weeks? Mm-hmm. We just said, it is time for us to rest and really just

Randi: 3:41

reset. Ourselves Reset. Yes. Yeah. Take a step back, like reevaluate everything. And come back refreshed. And it's so important because we live in a cultural that glorifies the hustle. Oh, busy. That glorify being busy, busy, busy. Which is actually, a glorified trauma response. Yes. Our. Nervous system has two main branches, sympathetic, which is our fight or flight mode, and parasympathetic, which is our rest and digest mode. If we are constantly in fight or flight mode, our body never stops. It never gets a chance. To heal, repair, or regulate your emotions,

Jess: 4:18

and that's huge right there. You're running on

Randi: 4:20

empty, you're running your body and your mind

Jess: 4:23

down, especially if you're ru, you're regulating emotions. That is such a huge thing because if we can't regulate our emotions, oh my God, everything is going to go to shit,

Randi: 4:33

right? So let's talk about the things that are gonna go to shit. So this can really worsen conditions if you already have them or create. New conditions like this.

Jess: 4:43

Exactly.'cause if we live in a constant state of stress, which is that fight or flight, it's going to make things worse. So Randy, what are some of the things that's gonna make worse?

Randi: 4:52

Anxiety disorders, depression. PTSD, any type of trauma related disorders. A DHD. Chronic fatigue syndrome, insomnia and sleep disorders, burnout, burnout, burnout, emotional exhaustion, autoimmune conditions. When you are not rested or your body is constantly stressed, it increases inflammation in your body.

Jess: 5:17

And the other thing too is if you have post-concussion syndrome.

Randi: 5:20

Mm, that's interesting. If

Jess: 5:21

you have a concussion, you have to rest. Your body will not heal and your mind will not heal unless you rest. And this is what I

Randi: 5:32

mean. It's huge. That's huge. And also what's so important too for women is hormonal fluctuations. That makes it even harder to get rest. Yeah. When we're cycling or on our period or ovulating. And if you have a condition like PMDD, premenstrual dysphoric disorder or postpartum depression, or peri-menopausal related issues, I. This is all gonna impact how well we are resting and recovering our body.

Jess: 6:00

'cause just those three alone that you named, we are not resting. No. When you're perimenopausal, you can't sleep at night. No. You have really bad insomnia, right? Yeah. When you have postpartum, you are not sleeping anyway'cause nobody else is sleeping in the house. And if you have PMDD, well you know you're probably not sleeping there either'cause you're raging through the house.

Randi: 6:18

So lack of rust just doesn't make us feel tired. It actually alters our brain function. Research shows that sleep deprivation affects our prefrontal cortex, which is responsible for our decision making, our emotional regulation, and our impulse control. So if you're wondering why you have no impulse control, you're crying over everything, or you're angry over everything, or you're making horrible decisions. Well, you're probably not sleeping very well. Yeah, and when we're not rested, we're more likely to, to feel overwhelmed, irritable, and struggle with focusing and concentration.

Jess: 6:55

So for women, this often translates into feelings of guilt. We feel like we are failing if we're not productive all the time. I don't know how many women say, I have to get this done before I can sit down. And you're like, wait, wait, wait. You have to get your entire list done before you can rest.'cause then you can actually rest. That makes no sense, right? Why aren't

Randi: 7:16

we resting so that we're. Fuel to do those things. Tackle'em. Exactly.

Jess: 7:20

cause rest isn't a luxury. It really is a necessity. Yeah.

Randi: 7:23

Why have we made it though? That it's a luxury? Like it's something that we Oh, I don't

Jess: 7:27

think we made it that way. Well, no, no. Media. I think society and society. A men, media and media Yeah. Makes it

Randi: 7:32

that it's a luxury

Jess: 7:33

because without Rest. Our butt. Butt buddy. Our butt, our bo,

Randi: 7:38

our our Touch the butt. I'm gonna touch the butt.

Jess: 7:43

Okay. Okay. Our body is. Stuck in survival mode, which increases cortisol levels and let's

Randi: 7:51

talk about that. That makes weight gain. Yes. Belly weight. Yes. Wide around your weight. Belly. Belly weight, the belly that you can't get rid of. Stress.

Jess: 7:58

Stress, yeah. And that leads to more anxiety, more mood swings, and even physical symptoms like headaches and digestive issues. Yeah. You think you, IBIS, you're like, oh,

Randi: 8:08

I'm gonna ship my pants. Oh no, it's, no, no, I just need to rest. So I don't do that. Yeah. And also studies are showing that women are more prone to insomnia and anxiety disorders than men because our brains tend to ruminate more, which is like cycle on thoughts over and over again, which is why rest isn't just about physical recovery, but it's also about our mental recovery too. We need to mentally. Reset. We need to pause. We need to give ourselves times to breathe.

Jess: 8:38

Exactly. And we're also not sleeping'cause we're sleeping with these old men. Oh, that sounds really awful. Who are snoring? They're sitting there and they're totally snoring away. Just over here getting herself a

Randi: 8:48

zaidie. She's like z. I don't even know what Azai is. No, she was laughing. Laughing. Yeah. Okay. Urban Dictionary, that stuff. Anyways,

Jess: 8:57

no, I'm afraid of that. Somebody sent me the blue waffles once that I did it, and I could never unsee that picture again. Oh no. I don't know what that is, but yeah, don't even do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Okay. So how can we actually incorporate more rest into our

Randi: 9:10

lives, Randy? Number one, let's start with sleep. We need to prioritize a consistent sleep schedule, so reducing screen time before bed, creating a calm nighttime routine, and also your, what do they call it, your sleep hygiene. So like your room, like not having a lot of like electronics or lights or things in your room so that it's a comfortable, it's like a good temperature.

Jess: 9:34

I heard somebody today call it lamp time. Hmm.

Randi: 9:37

Never heard that before.

Jess: 9:38

I call it buttoning up the house. Well, my husband does buttoning up the house, but she said, oh, I heard it called lamp time, where you go through and you're turning on the lamps and you're shutting down the blinds. Mm-hmm. And you're making it look more like nighttime. Yeah. Because sometimes in the summer it's still 11 o'clock and bright out. So they called it lamp time. I was like, that's

Randi: 9:56

really cute. I like that. And then another important thing besides just sleep is really getting. Deep rest. So what does that look like?

Jess: 10:05

That is non sleep, rest, and that is different. Those are things like practicing yoga, doing breath work, mindfulness, meditation, or even just laying down for a few minutes in a quiet space can really help reset your nervous system. That's I'll be like, I'm just gonna go close my eyes for a few minutes. Mm-hmm. I don't think I'm actually sleeping, but I'm in that state between awake and sleep and I'm just being exactly where I'm at.

Randi: 10:33

Well, like one of my favorite like yoga poses is like the, at the end, like the dead man pose. Yes. Where you're just like laying there just kind of like communing, like with yourself and like in a calm space and you're just giving yourself that time and. You're giving yourself, I feel permission to do nothing, and that is such a powerful tool. It's okay to sit in silence. It's okay to let your mind wander. It's okay to take a break without feeling guilty.

Jess: 11:00

It is. And if you have a house that is loud, it is okay to also put on some white noise and just, I have

Randi: 11:07

noise canceling headphones that I have to put on. I'm like, if my kids know oh, okay, we need to. Back off because mom's about, she needs some downtime.

Jess: 11:16

Wait, and the other thing is, as you guys always know, boundaries, boundaries and boundaries, they're so important. They're so key. Saying no to things that drain your energy to people that drain your energy. Mm-hmm. Creating tech free zones and making rest a non-negotiable part of your schedule. It really helps maintain mental wellbeing.

Randi: 11:38

We need to remember. Rest isn't lazy, rest isn't selfish. It is necessary. Rest is necessary for mental clarity, for emotional resiliency, and for your long term health.

Jess: 11:52

Exactly. And I don't want you to think that you're letting people down because you're not, in order for us to take, you're

Randi: 11:58

caring for yourself.

Jess: 11:59

Yes. I can't care for other people if I don't take care of myself. Mm-hmm. And we are trained that as therapists. And that is what causes some of the burnout that we've been talking about is if you don't take care of yourself, right? But this is also what happens if you don't rest to your

Randi: 12:16

nervous system. So let's answer or have you ever thoughts just, we talked about this more in our previous podcast, but we'll go over it a little bit. What is nervous system repair and why is it so important for us as women? So the nervous system

Jess: 12:31

repair, it really helps our body and mind recover from stress and anxiety and burnout. Women, especially those juggling careers and caregiving and relationships. And when I say careers, I even mean stay at home moms because that is so much harder. That's,

Randi: 12:47

that's work. That is

Jess: 12:48

so that is a career right there. And what that is, is, we often experience chronic nervous system overload, which can lead to. All of the things like sleep issues and depression and anxiety and just feeling just like you're just vibing all the time. Mm-hmm. So when we can, prior, prior, ah, when we can prioritize rest, it's going to help regulate our stress hormones, which is going to improve our mood and boost our emotional resilience. So Randy, how does rest reset

Randi: 13:20

the nervous system? So rest actually activates your parasympathetic nervous system, which is your body's natural calm mode. This low lowers your cortisol, which is your stress hormone. Reduces inflammation and improves your mental clarity. Whether you are getting deep sleep, you're meditating, or you're simply doing nothing and rotting, rotting, intentional rest is key to repair your nervous system.

Jess: 13:49

So when I was pregnant, I would be laying on the couch and my husband would walk in and look at me all big and pregnant. And I'm like, excuse me, I'm growing a lung. What are you doing? Yeah. So instead of saying I'm resting or I'm taking time, I'm gonna start selling people. I am lowering my cortisol levels right now, so I need some me time. I'm resetting

Randi: 14:57

my nervous system. Exactly. Back off. Yeah. I am resetting my nervous system.

Jess: 15:01

This is really important.

Randi: 15:03

So what are common signs that our nervous system is overstressed and overwhelmed.

Jess: 15:10

Women's nervous systems can become stuck in overdrive. I know mine gets stuck there. I know yours gets stuck there. Mm-hmm. And it leads to symptoms that are trouble sleeping or waking up exhausted when you're like, gosh. You're like, what? I slept, why am I still tired? Exactly. It's like our high schoolers, why am I so tired? I slept. You're like, Ugh.'cause you're stressed.'cause of finals. Mm-hmm. Constantly feeling overwhelmed or. Irritable. Yeah. Or having anxiety that chronic fatigue or that brain fog, fog, brain fog is when you're like, what is the name of that stuff? You stick on that sticky stuff like tape. Yeah.

Randi: 15:44

I often wonder too, if. Having your nervous system like this and such high overdrive all the time will eventually lead to memory issues when we're older down the road too, because we see more and more people, having Alzheimer's and things like that. So I'm interested to see the long term effects of it

Jess: 16:04

and think about it on our

Randi: 16:05

mind'cause we're not resting our minds.

Jess: 16:07

Well, and think about it. So many women now are going through perimenopause, what, almost 10 years earlier. Yes. Than our grandparents. Yeah. Maybe. Well, grandmothers, but maybe we are going to perimenopause early because we're constantly stuck in this Stress. Stress and our nervous system. It's changing our hormones too, and it's change. Oh, that's an, that would be an interesting study. The other thing is digestive issues like bloating, nausea, GI stuff. Yeah, like

Randi: 16:34

acid reflux. Things like that. Right? Bubble, gut, all those things.

Jess: 16:39

And then just feeling wired, but tired at night. You

Randi: 16:41

just can't come down Exactly. To sleep. Exactly. So if you are relating to this, your nervous system might be overstimulated and need a true reset. Now, why do we think women struggle more? With this than men.

Jess: 16:56

We know they do. Besides, they're snoring, besides the fact that they can snore away, they can sleep

Randi: 17:01

through anything, they

Jess: 17:02

can sleep through anything. There are studies that show women are more prone to insomnia, anxiety disorders due to the higher mental load that we have, which is managing work and family and the emotional labor keeping, yeah, that kin keeping are fluctuating hormones. PMS, postpartum, perimenopause. Ovulation, all of that. And then these, this pressure that we put on ourselves and that we allow society to put on us. Yeah. About doing it

Randi: 17:29

all. Yeah. That we have to be everything to everybody and we're not meeting certain standards.

Jess: 17:35

Exactly. And then because we're not meeting it, we try to be perfect because we can't even prioritize what to do, so we're gonna do all of it. Perfect. Mm-hmm. So again, rest is not a luxury, it's a necessity for mental clarity, emotional wellbeing, and long-term health. So Randy, what are the best types of rest for nervous

Randi: 17:53

system healing? Okay, and again, rest encompasses many things. When we're talking about it here, it's not just sleep. We as women need physical rest, which is deep sleep. Napping, stretching. I love naps. Yeah. Rem sleep. We need mental rest, which is meditation, journaling, daydreaming. I thought you were gonna

Jess: 18:13

say day drinking.

Randi: 18:14

Whatever. No, no, no, no. Don't do that. That's not, that is not good for your nervous system. Sensory rust, which is. Quiet time, like downtime, nature walks.

Jess: 18:23

Oh, walking in the grass Like we to do. Yeah. Uhhuh barefoot in the grass and just resetting. Yeah.

Randi: 18:28

And that resets your, not only your mind, but your body too, and emotional rest. So deep conversations, time with friends and family therapy. So when you can find a balance between active and passive rest. That is an important key to helping your nervous system repair over the long term. Jess, how can poor sleep impact our mental health?

Jess: 18:52

Ooh, lack of quality. Sleep can increase again, anxiety and depression and brain fog. And most of us who are going through concentration at work and stuff, right? Yeah. And if you're already going through perimenopause, that brain fog is real. It's bad. It's really bad. Yes. Sleep is when you're nervous. System detoxes repairs your neurons and regulate stress hormones. Prioritizing sleep hygiene, like a consistent bedtime routine. No screens before bed. And a cool dark room can make a huge difference. And if you have somebody snoring, this is why so many people, they've got separate bedrooms. Mm-hmm. They're like, if you ain't gonna wear A-C-P-A-P. Cool buddy. You can go sleep in a different room. Or I'm gonna go sleep in a different room. Doesn't mean I don't love you. It just means I need to prioritize my sleep because you are killing me. Yeah, my health, my

Randi: 19:43

wellbeing and

Jess: 19:44

everything. Exactly. So Randy, what is the fastest way to calm an overstimulated nervous system?'cause this is huge right here.

Randi: 19:51

So if you're feeling overwhelmed or burnt out. These are some quick nervous system resets. Deep breathing. You can try the 4, 7, 8 technique yoga or doing a guided relaxation through it. Spending five minutes in nature. Yes. Just go outside.

Jess: 20:09

Especially if it's cold. Go outside and take a deep breath. It sounds so weird, but like when I'm anxious I will go outside and break up boxes if it's cold outside. Mm-hmm. Because what that does, it just kind of like takes my body and goes, oh, let's get out of whatever we were just doing. Yeah, just get like shock up and

Randi: 20:25

move. Yeah. Listen to some calming music. Lie down in silence for, 10 minutes. Or also something too that can sometimes help too is maybe like eating like a sour candy or something like sucking on it. Yes. It, it's the, sweetened kind of sourness of it that kind of can snap you out of like you're having, like an anxiety attack and you need to reset. These practices signal safety to your brain, helping your nervous system shift from stress to calm.

Jess: 20:52

This is also the bubbles go blow bubbles, This is getting yourself to breathe, getting yourself to relax, getting yourself to just remember that we are not meant and we are not built to be in this fight or flight. All the time. This is, we are, this isn't okay anymore. This is not okay. So just

Randi: 21:11

how can busy women incorporate more rest into their lives?

Jess: 21:15

Oh my gosh, I have so many snarky responses right now that I'm just not gonna do it. Let's not, let's, let's, let's. So even if you can't take a long break,'cause that's what I hear all the time is I don't have time. I don't have time. It doesn't have to be the big bougie, it's the microdosing of things we've talked about that before. Is schedule a 10 minute rest block in your day. If you're at work. Go take a 10 minute walk around the building just to get out of whatever that vibe is. Mm-hmm. Learn to say no to over commitments and do it without guilt. It's okay to say no, that doesn't work for me. No, thank you. Appreciate you thinking of me, but I'm going to pass. Taking mindful moments, that is things like slowly slipping your tea. Deep breaths before meetings. Taken the long way park farther away so you can do a further walk. These small moments of intentional rest can have a huge impact on your nervous system. Randy, how long does it take to repair an overstimulated nervous system?'cause that's huge. I wanna

Randi: 22:13

know how long. Well, the nervous system does not heal overnight, but consistent rest can make a difference within a few weeks to months. The key is to reduce your daily stress, improve your quality sleep, and build up these restorative practices into your life and daily routine. So that you can continue to heal. And even if you have a setback, just keep trying to move forward with this because it's better than doing nothing and living in that constant fight or flight mode.

Jess: 22:46

Exactly. And we don't need you to wake up tomorrow and go, okay, tomorrow I'm gonna be perfect and do all of this right. Add in one thing, one small thing, one thing. Yeah. And when you get that going and you're like, cool, I can do another. Small thing, right? If it's stretching, if it, whatever it is, if you're in the elevator and you start to stretch, go for it. Whatever makes you feel better. So Why is REST a radical act of self-care for women? Because the

Randi: 23:10

world glorifies busyness, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, and rest is a resistance. So let's start a rest. Resistance. We need to prioritize rest because it's an act of self-care. It's an act of self-worth and of self-preservation. Women deserve to rest. Without guilt, without shame, without justification, and without apology.

Jess: 23:36

We should do like a, like instead of a sit-in, we're gonna protest a rest in, we're gonna have a rest in. Everybody just needs to lay and do nothing. I always have said

Randi: 23:44

that because we've done like yoga seminars and stuff before and I'm like, we should just do one where we just lay there and nap because we're giving ourselves just the time to do it and we don't. Do it like enough.

Jess: 23:57

We don't. In fact, a couple weeks ago I got with Randy'cause I was like, let's record. And then I was like, you know what? I'm tired. And she's like, me too. And I think we just hung out and we just chatted and just enjoyed the moment. And it was okay'cause we were still doing our rest. We were

Randi: 24:13

still recovering and recouping. Yeah. We were spending time in like deep conversation. We needed time to connect with each other and fix our nervous system. Yeah, exactly. So if there's one takeaway from today's episode, it's that rest is not something that is lazy. It is essential for your mental health, for your emotional regulation and your overall being wellbeing. It is essential to your success, to your family, to your relationship. Bingo, everything. It is the key to everything. It is the foundation of our lives. And we have to take that more,

Jess: 24:48

more importantly, more. We have to put our, we have to

Randi: 24:52

take it more seriously. Thank

Jess: 24:54

you. That's the word I'm looking for. And stop

Randi: 24:56

putting ourselves on the back burner.

Jess: 24:58

Always. We always put ourselves last. It's like when my daughter walks out on a Wednesday morning and she's like, can you dry my hair? I'm like, I could dry your hair, or I could take a shower. Yeah, I've started saying, I'm no longer gonna dry your hair Wednesday mornings. I need to go take a shower. Yeah. Because I kept putting myself back and then I was like, oh, I really needed a shower. Well, that was

Randi: 25:15

like what was it like a year and a half ago? I kept having this sharp pain, like in my chest and thinking it's just like heartburn. It's just heartburn. Like for six months, I'm like, Ugh. And then I was like. Something's really wrong. And I was like, I think I should go get this checked out. And then they're like, you need to have your gallbladder amount out immediately. We need to have emergency surgery. And it's like blocking all sorts of things. And I had put off this pain for six months thinking like I was being ridiculous. And

Jess: 25:42

if you've ever had gallbladder pain, I was like, how the hell did you not know you were having that pain? Yeah, I had it and I thought I was going to keel over and die. I have

Randi: 25:50

a, and that's the thing about women though, is that we have a high pain tolerance too. Yeah.

Jess: 25:55

I think, think we learn to ignore things. Yes. I was like, we learned to minimize going, no, no, this is much more important. We make ourselves, I don't have smaller and minimize

Randi: 26:02

our issues and our problems and our pain,

Jess: 26:04

If you're feeling burnt out, anxious or emotionally exhausted, or you are minimizing the pain in your life or in what is going on with you, mm-hmm. It might not be because you're not doing enough. It might be because you are doing too much and not resting enough. There is something about rotting. That is so healthy for us,

Randi: 26:25

right? So thank you for joining us today. If this episode resonated with you, make sure to subscribe, share, and leave us a review. And as always, take care of yourself and we'll see you next time on the Women's Mental Health Podcast. Bye.