She is Redefined

Season 2 Ep 2: Can God & “woo” spirituality coexist?

Katie Smith Season 2 Episode 2

In today’s episode, I come to you with passion & vulnerability about how the question “Can God & “woo” spirituality coexist?

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Welcome to she is Redefined, the podcast where we break free from societal expectations, redefine our identities and step fully into the woman we were always meant to be. I'm Katie Smith, your host and guide on this journey of transformation. Here, we're all about embracing change, cultivating confidence and living life on our own terms. Each week, we'll dive into topics that inspire, challenge and empower you to redefine what it means to be you. Into topics that inspire, challenge and empower you to redefine what it means to be you. So, if you're ready to rewrite your story and live life that's bold, authentic and unapologetically yours, let's dive in. Welcome back to. She is Redefined.

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We're here and I have to apologize I do have a little cold that I am getting over. So if you hear me and I sound like a little nasally, that is why Y'all I have been hit with two colds in a matter of four weeks. Now it's back to school and all that, but I talked about it on my Facebook or, sorry, my Instagram, and y'all were so sweet, like I had several people reach out and being like hey, when that happens, I notice that I really have to get my gut in check and my gut health and all that, and I got the nicest messages and I am even using some of the tips that some of you actually shared with me, so thank you. I have been taking Arm Raw Like if you're on Instagram or Facebook, you've seen the advertisement for that and I have noticed a big difference. The boys take it, my husband takes it, I take it, and so I've been adding a few more scoops of that along with the lemon olive oil elixir. Have you tried it? Okay, you need to. You know what. I'll just link the video of how I discovered it. I'll just give her some free visibility, because I'm all about that. You know what I'm saying, so I'll do that. I've added that that's also been like a great way to start my day. It's almost like I don't drink coffee. I drink if you caught that one episode where I had the guest on Gabby for the adaptogens kind of coffee. It's amazing. It's instant coffee, but it's like not like the junk, and it gives you all the things that your cortisol needs. So I've been off coffee for gosh months now. But add that little lemon olive oil elixir and like I am whistling to a different tune. Okay, so I wanted to talk to you, talk with you about that, but that's all my updates.

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Are you loving she's Refined? Like I love it? I love it. I love the direction of where everything is going. I love the conversations that have been happening because of this. I'm just things are so good right now. I love it. I love it Now. Things are not always good, so don't mix this up with toxic positivity or anything, but right now I'm more in flow than ever and life is just unfolding beautifully, beautifully, and I cannot wait to give a lot of that to you in this next season of the podcast.

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I had everything prior to she Is Redefined. I have called that season one, and now we are in season two, which is all about she Is Redefined. So season one is like your inner leadership, your inner CEO, it's betting on yourself, it's social selling, it's a lot of tactical stuff. And then the Cash Flow Manifestation Project podcast was more like wealth, energetics and universal laws. And now I'm into more of redefining what success means, redefining what time is, redefining your path in life, redefining how you want to live and empowering you to do that and to show up as yourself, unapologetically. And so I just freaking love it. But the conversation I want to talk to you about today is actually not something I had listed when I was already planning episode topics for she Is Redefined.

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This came out of left field when I posted something on my she Is Redefined Instagram account. If you're not following that, you should be. So I was on my way to Bible study. I go to a Bible study every single Thursday. Have I been a part of a Bible study before? No, and we're going to talk a lot about that.

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But I have kind of stayed away from churches. I mean, my family goes to church every Sunday. That's important to my husband, that's important to me to give my sons a foundation of something that they can rely on on a weekly basis, like a home base. You know, like I want them growing up like that, because my husband and his family grew up that way and my husband I could just sing his praises, but I think it's so beautiful, like they have a home base. You know, and my husband took that into his adulthood. Even when he and I started dating, he's like this is my home base. It makes me feel grounded and I thought that was so beautiful when I had a very different experience with the church, and so what I posted on Instagram was I was on my way to Bible study but I had forgotten that I needed to get my jar of water that I set out for the solar eclipse and y'all freaked out.

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I got so many messages telling people I'm cheating on the Christian church. People see that as demonic, people see that as Satan like crazy. So it spurred on an amazing conversation. I hopped on my stories and shared my truth and my perspective of spirituality, astrology, woo, as well as the Bible and Christianity and God, and I want to take that conversation to you today, right now, on this platform, because I think it is so important. And what I found in the conversation that I had on Instagram was no one was actually talking about God. I found that everyone was talking about rules, rules to their religion, rules to their church and I found that really interesting because a lot of the conversation went back and forth. I was like you know, you're saying something like these are the rules, but I'm not hearing anything about God's love and God's unconditional love and people's relationship with God, and that's what I went on to Instagram to talk about. So I have so much to say on this.

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First things first. I don't think that it is a sin for one to believe in astrology, believe in the woo, spirituality and spirit guides or angels, guardian angels, and also believe and go to a Christian church and go to a Bible study. I believe those two things can coexist. Now I might have lost half of you listening to this because you might think so deep down in your bones. There's no way, because one is God, which is like the Bible and all of that, and the other one is spirituality, like satanistic stuff, where it's like you don't get involved in it's dangerous and it can be harmful and it's darkness and I want to call BS on that. The two can very much coexist because ultimately, at the end of the day, it depends on your relationship with God and that can look and have its own flavor. It can look however you want and it can be its own flavor. God is good and you can believe in a higher power, you can believe in divine, you can believe in source. Whatever your name is. The most important thing is actually your relationship with God, because God does.

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I believe God does not have an opinion up there looking down at you thinking you're being a good girl or a bad girl. I don't believe that at all. To me, that's not a nice God To me. That is a man-made construct, trying to keep you in a box, trying to keep you playing small, keep control over you where I don't want you to step out of the lines. You need to be a good girl or you're going to be shamed and sent to hell. I don't believe that. I think the Bible is fascinating, but I see the Bible in such a different way than most Christians do. I have been a part of this Bible study for like two months now not even maybe and we've missed a couple because of scheduling conflicts, but it's fascinating.

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Inside this beautiful Bible study fellowship that I'm a part of, so many of the women take the word of God and then they tell themselves like I'm just a sinner, I'm not good enough. He's going to save me, he did save me and I'm not worthy. It's a lot. The messaging, the underlying narrative is a lot of unworthinessiness and it makes me irritated, because I see all these beautiful women that I'm surrounded with and I'm like you are all so worthy. God loves you unconditionally and they know that. But I want them to see themselves as completely worthy. They're so worthy.

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We all make mistakes and God understands that. We're here to live and experience for God, and God would never place a desire on my heart or your heart that you would never attain, that you would never achieve, you would never get. God doesn't dangle the carrot. That's not a loving God. I don't think the two can exist. You're telling me that if you have a desire on your heart and it's not meant for you and God will take it away, you're going to now pray God, please take this desire away from me, because it's not happened yet. That's not God. That's a man-made construct trying to keep you playing small.

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God wants you to have everything and more in your heart. That's why he has you here. That's why you're still around. Do you know what I mean? That's the other thing, too. I wake up with such gratitude for, like, I am still alive and I'm here and I made it this far. I have made it this far where I got kids, I was able to have two sons with a man that I love, and three dogs and a horse. Thank you for another day, oh my gosh. Dogs and a horse. Thank you for another day, oh my gosh.

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And I believe that whatever's on my heart is meant for me. I just have to figure out how to relax around that idea and I lean and talk to God to help guide me. I don't believe that I need to talk myself out of these desires, because what some Christianity talk is out there if it hasn't happened yet. Ask God to remove this desire from your heart and I'm just like what, what? How does that make sense at all? God wants you to have everything and more. You just have to work with him. You've got to relax, you've got to guide yourself towards God. That means more praying. That means more solitude. That means just loving yourself more. Maybe get more familiar. That means more solitude. That means just loving yourself more. Maybe get more familiar and love yourself a whole lot more.

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Mirror work can be a beautiful thing here, because what I'm seeing in this beautiful Bible study that I'm a part of and I love it, is like I just see all these women who think that they're not worthy, like I just said, and I'm like you just need to rewrite the narrative a little bit and remember on God's unconditional love and remember that he's there for you all the time. You know this conversation got brought up in the last Bible study of this beautiful woman. She was saying that you know, when she became, when she gave herself to Christ by getting baptized in her 20s, she was hoping that, like, all of the desires for alcohol and having fun would go away. And they hadn't yet. And she's like it's just a really big struggle for me because I believe she grew up believing that, like, when you give yourself to God, you shouldn't have any of those things. And I'm just like how does this make any sense? An unconditional, loving God who created the earth in seven days and has created what we all live in, this universal world, and it's so powerful and amazing. You're telling me he doesn't want us to have things, but that wasn't what I said. I kept that part to myself. Instead, I was helping her take things off of the pedestal. I was helping her see that when you think about the things you desire say it's alcohol or sugar or whatever what worked for me where I don't drink anymore, was I took alcohol off the pedestal or sugar off the pedestal and instead I put me doing something that feels good for me having fun, me journaling, scripting my ideal day and I was sharing that with her and that really, really helped her. And the whole group was like oh wow, I never thought about like that. Thank you, that's so cool, but I share this because it's just like it's all reframing and I believe both can exist.

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I think you can have a beautiful relationship with God and I think you can go to church. But where I have a giant problem with the church is the damn rules and the damn shaming and the damn guilt trips and like people who say that they go to church every weekend and so that apparently makes them a good person when they're mean Like me, growing up in the Catholic church, they were all so mean and I as a very young girl always questioned that and I would get in arguments with my parents about it, like I don't want to go to church. They're always so mean, yet we're supposed to pray to God and act like we're good people because we checked it off the list. I call bullshit. And what's so funny is I think I mentioned this in the past. But what's so funny is I was shamed because I didn't like going to church and that wasn't my thing. But believe this, get this.

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I had a diary that I would write to God every day in, and when we were moving my parents out of their house they lived in for 13 years. We found that and I opened it and I showed my husband. I was like, look at me. I wrote to God almost every day and I would say I love my family and keep us safe and thank you so much for everything that we have.

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I had a relationship with God, but to the outside, to the church. I was this naughty girl who always hated going to church and I want to ask you make that make sense. I don't get it Because ultimately, at the end of the day, isn't it just your relationship with God is the most important thing? You look to him and you have love and light and you try to have good intentions for everything that you do and just try to live the best way. You can Treat others as you'd want to be treated. Isn't that the overarching point and message here? I would agree. I think that's it.

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I don't think it's follow these fucking rules so that everyone else will make sure that you're liked, you're good, you're doing all the things. Oh, yay. What is this facade? Do they even pray? Do you even pray? I hate to get so passionate about this, but I need to talk about it. I need to get it off my chest because a lot of beautiful conversations came from it on Instagram and I think more people, we need to have this conversation. We need to have more people talking about this, or I need to talk more about this is what I should say. So, ultimately, you're allowed to do whatever you want to do. You're allowed to make your own rules. Who's to say otherwise, who's to say otherwise and why? Who's the ultimate decider here? You're telling me that, like someone is going to call you a bad Christian, you don't have any faith. No one can do that but you. No one can control and label and put that on someone, but you. You are the one to determine your faith. You are the one to determine how often you connect with God in whatever way, shape or form you prefer to.

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It's not coming from a location, a facility, a church, a worship, because you aren't going to church enough, or you're not active enough in the Bible study, or you don't know enough of the word of God or any of that, and it's just going back to the word of God thing. Okay, sorry, squirrel brain, I have so much I want to say on this. I don't know the Bible very well. That's also part of why I joined a Bible study group is because I want to learn, and it's fascinating. People's take on what scripture says, where I'm literally in there and I'm like is that what this is saying? Like we're not good enough without God and we have to wait till he comes back and we're just sitting around waiting for that day to rejoice and do all this stuff. Like what are we talking about here? I don't think that this is what this is saying. I'm over here like not asking questions because I still don't know enough, but I will interject where I'm like to me. I think it feels like this instead of what you're saying, and it has created some cool conversations and it's also not landed, and then that's fine too.

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The whole purpose of Bible study, in my opinion, is like fellowship. People just want to like bring the word of God together. Let's bounce things off each other and see you know what's landing, what's not. And I think God has brought me here to this, to this little group, to maybe provide my opinion, to help people think that maybe you can believe in all these things and strengthen your bond with God and not have this narrative of like I got to wait around, I'm not worthy yet, but when he comes I'll be worthy. It's just fascinating to me and this is why I've had such a big problem with the church. And I'll be honest you know, a couple of my in-laws listen to my podcast, I don't know how religiously so it should be interesting at the holidays this year. Just keep it real. But I do have a very hard time stepping into a Catholic church again. I really only do for very serious events like weddings or funerals. But I just have such a bad experience in that realm and I think I prefer not to. Let's just say that and we all get to write our own rules. We all do. And if anyone, my overarching message is if anyone wants to shame you otherwise, that's on them, that's on them. If anyone wants to tell you you can't be a part of astrology, you can't set out a jar of water when the solar eclipse is happening or on a full moon because of X, y, z, that's on them. That's on them.

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Now, the last thing I'm going to say, because this is kind of long-winded, is some of you asked me advice on how to bring this stuff up in Bible study because you've done that in the past and it didn't land very well and some of the people judged you and shamed you and saying that's demonic and all this stuff. You really have to use your discernment. You're in a setting of people who are talking about the Bible and they're Christians and they don't believe in that other stuff. So you might need to keep that stuff close to the vest unless there's an opportunity to help them broaden their perspective of what scripture says. Like I was sharing with you where I go is that really what this is saying? This scripture is saying like, but just like what I do where I just question, I'm like if, when someone recaps the scripture and gives their opinion, I then say is that really what this is saying or could it be something different? And that's when I will interject where it could be different. Other than that, I don't start talking about angel numbers or anything like that, because it's quite honestly not the setting for it. So you got to keep that close to the vest unless something presents itself. So I talk about this stuff on my Instagram because my Instagram is a free-for-all. It's not like I'm going to church or Bible study and I'm talking about those things.

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I think Christianity Christian people could get a ton out of spirituality and woo, and I'm actually going to be working on something where I can help guide people where they can have both coexist. So stay tuned for that. But until they're open to it, I don't need to push my opinion. I don't need to push my knowledge on the subject on anyone unless it is presented to me. Does that make sense? So I just did want to touch on that because I got two who asked me about that or told me their experience with that, and I just wanted to share my two cents.

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So, end of the day, my message here is believe what you want. If something feels good, do it. If something doesn't feel good but you feel that you have to do it to be a quote unquote feels good, do it. If something doesn't feel good but you feel that you have to do it to be a quote unquote. Good girl question that Is that ultimately true? Because if something piques your curiosity, you're interested in something, but you're being told it's demonic or bad, I would call bullshit like heavily, because I don't believe that, I don't believe in people's, I don't believe in people trying to kink people in boxes and ultimately that's what I think a lot of the churches do, and they do that because fear makes you easier to control, and I've never been this honest before ever.

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But here we are. She is redefined. Here we are. We're talking about subjects I never normally talk about when I have a lot of close people and loved ones who listen to this podcast, and so we'll see where it shakes out. Okay, oh, my goodness, I love you. I hope you're loving this new taste, this new flavor, this rebrand, and if you got anything out of this, let me know.

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Share this with someone. Maybe they're struggling. Maybe you had an aha moment and you can share this with someone else and they might get an aha moment out of it. Like, spread the love. I would so appreciate it. I'm so honored you're here and if you have any questions, you know where to find me at SheIsRedefined on the socials, and I'll catch you here next week. Bye, thank you so much for tuning in to this episode of she Is Redefined. If today's chat resonated with you, don't forget to hit subscribe so you never miss out. Remember, this is just the beginning of your journey and you've got everything you need to create the life that you want. If you enjoyed this episode, I'd love for you to leave a review or share it with another woman who's ready to redefine herself too. Until next time, keep embracing who you are, because you're powerful, you're capable and you are redefined.

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