46. Through Heartbreak to Strength: Overcoming Shame // with Jodi Rosser

In this episode, host Laura Sexton introduces her guest, Jodi Rosser, who is an author, podcaster, and speaker. Jodi's work focuses on helping women deepen their faith and strengthen their relationships, drawing from her own experiences with miscarriage, divorce, and loss of a dear friend to cancer. Jodi shares her personal journey of emerging from these challenges and finding hope, joy, and purpose amidst life's unexpected storms. She also discusses the importance of leaving a meaningful legacy and the power of going through difficult experiences to grow spiritually. The conversation touches on the significance of overcoming shame, particularly in the context of divorce, and the role of faith in finding strength and purpose in life.

In this episode you’ll learn:

.how experience shapes your mission

.how to model the legacy you want to leave

.how faith can strengthen you past shame

 
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Laura 0:03

Hello and welcome to the Accelerate Your Legacy podcast. I'm Laura Sexton, your trusted financial coach and money mindset specialist. Join me as we explore the world of money and money mindset while also paving the way for a lasting legacy that extends far beyond money. Together we'll eliminate stress, amplify freedom, and ensure you stop paying for your past so you can start saving for your future. If you're seeking peace in your finances, more margin in your budget, and a legacy that inspires generations to come, you're in the right place. Well, hello, accelerators. I want to introduce you to Jodi Rosser. She is an author, podcaster, and speaker who helps women grow deeper in their faith and stronger in their relationships. Through God's strength, she emerged from miscarriage, divorce, and losing a dear friend of cancer to help women everywhere experience hope, joy, and purpose through life's unexpected storms. She is raising two sons, one in high school and one in college in Southern California, and with Love to connect with you on her website or Instagram, all of those links are going to be down in the show notes. And I promise you, she's not just saying she wants to connect with you. She does actually want to talk with you. So please feel free to use those links. Jodi, welcome to the show.

Jodi Rosser 1:28

Oh, thanks, Laura. It's so wonderful to be with you.

Laura 1:31

I'm excited about this. Anybody that doesn't know us Jodi and I both like to talk. She has a podcast of her own, which we will talk about later. But Jodi, I'm just going to jump right in the 1st question. I like to ask all of my guests is who is someone whose legacy you admire and or would like to emulate.

Jodi Rosser 1:53

That's such a good question. Well, it's so fun to see you again. Last time I saw you, I was speaking at your church. And so it's fun to be back and you know, I went with this root legacy is so powerful because. It's like what you're leaving behind to your kids. So I guess I would think about my parents. I love the legacy that they're still living, but there's the legacy they left behind. They're very intentional parents. Sadly, my mom has dementia and so she doesn't actually have a lot of her short term memory, but she still remembers long term memory, which is really special. I have a mentor in my life and I love the way she's intentional in her life. And I can only imagine the legacy that she'll leave behind. Basically, any hard thing she goes through, she uses it to help others and she has a saying, we go through what we go through to help others go through what we went through. And her name is Kathe Wunnenberg. Her book Grieving the Child I Never Knew helped me when I lost my baby, my miscarriage, and I had no idea back in 2006. That when I read that book that years later that she'd become a mentor in my life and I had her on the podcast and we connected, asked her to be my mentor. Anyway, she speaks such truth into me now and it's kind of a beautiful way God blessed me with her because now my mom isn't really able to speak truth to me anymore because of her dementia. But now I have another like bonus mom that's now speaking truth into me. And so she, I just. Sadly, she was just given a diagnosis and I just I look at how she's living her life and she's just not going to waste any of the hard things she's gone through. She's lost many babies through miscarriage. He's now walking through a health thing. I just want that to be like how I live my life, like that I never wasted any of the hard things I went through and I feel like that I've started that with my book and my podcast and things like that, but I don't ever want to, I don't want to all of a sudden be like, okay, I'm, I'm now wanting to just go on a cruises and just vacation and never, but like, I just want to always be speaking hope, hope, especially to those that are hurting because it's so hard. Like that's that legacy I want to leave behind. And. I see my mentor, Kathy, doing it so beautifully. We never know when the next hard thing's going to happen. It's not just a one thing, right? So there could be another thing down the road. I just hope I always can say, God, here's those broken pieces. Here's the hard things I've walked through using them in my life to spread hope to others.

Laura 4:04

To have somebody that has been through so much that is able to very personally walk with you through those things is. I mean, I'm, I'm almost at a loss for words, which doesn't happen to me often because I'm, I'm thinking it's funny because the images that came to mind when you were speaking. I just don't see you as a person who ever would miss an opportunity to see somebody else in need. You have a spirit of somebody that's going to pinpoint. Oh, that person needs me to come over and talk to them. So, even if you were on a cruise, I feel like you would sit down right next to the person that needed to hear from you That's just probably. That's just how that would work.

Jodi Rosser 4:47

Maybe I bring my book and hand out books on the cruise. No, I'm just kidding.

Laura 4:50

I have a friend that does that. When they go on the airplane, the person sitting next to them gets a book.

Jodi Rosser 4:54

I always just call them God appointments. Not every single person is the person that's supposed to get the book. So I always ask God, how many books should I pack? Just show me when it's supposed to be the person. And there's sometimes I'll be on a whole flight and I don't hand one out. And then the next flight I'm handing out three. It's just crazy how God will guide you to the person that needs the hope, right. That it's hurting when needs the message. And so I love that. I, yeah, I definitely think it's something that gives purpose to the hard things we've walked through. It gives purpose to our pain in a way that Again, doesn't make the pain easy because it's so hard to walk through the hard things, but it just, you realize God redeems it in a way that you would not have done in your own strength.

Laura 5:31

The reason I started financial coaching, making this a business, the way it got started was because I went through my own hard season. I had a baby that hadn't slept all night. So I hadn't slept on it, you know, and I'm in this postpartum anxiety and my husband came up to me and said, hey, when I get home from work, we need to talk about filing for bankruptcy. So that I was like, I don't, I don't know what I'm doing here. And, and just this overwhelming feeling of drowning on dry land. That started me on a journey of figuring out how to manage my finances. And I have made a business out of my hard thing. And you have a ministry that was created out of your heart thing. You have this amazing book that we, we've referenced it a couple of times. So the book is called depth growing through heartbreak to strength. And I was thinking about that today, Jodi. You titled the book through heartbreak. To strength, not from heartbreak to strength, not like we were there, but to me, it's like, no, we have to go through it. You can't just leave it because if you just leave it, you can't grow. I don't know if this is a question you've ever gotten before, but is there a reason why you titled the book through heartbreak?

Jodi Rosser 6:48

That's a good question. Well, I do think you have to walk through it. I don't think you can go around grief. I don't think you could go. You know, above you have to go through it. Like you have to feel. Like one of the things I say is you have to, in order to heal, you have to feel. And like, no one wants to hear that. They want to say, Oh, what's the quick fix. It's like, there is not a quick fix. You have to go through every, like, you have to feel the anger. You have to feel the sadness. You have to feel the, all of it, the doubts that you start to have the, why God, did you have me go through this and all of it, you'd have to go through it. There's no other way, but the beautiful thing is as you're going through it, your relationship with God's going to deepen. So that's why the book's called depth. And it's like, I just want people to picture a tree with these deep, deep roots. You know, that is what's anchoring that tree through the storms of life. And sometimes you have depth already, but sometimes really the depth happens in the middle of the storm, right? Like, you know what, that's how it was, at least for me, when the rug was pulled out for me, at least with the divorce, I just remember crying out to God, just, I need strength today. I don't have the bandwidth to help my kids who are grieving the loss of their family, as well as I'm grieving this loss to help me. So it was just like a cry out to God for help. And. He was just so faithful to show up and I realized that each time I was calling out to him and reading my Bible and reading a Christian book and trying to find ways to heal, right, to go through it so I could heal was actually growing me deeper in my faith at the same time. So the healing was happening. I was being intentional about that, but God was being intentional about the growing my roots deep when I didn't even realize it until years later, when I was, people asked me questions and I would be able to say all these and be like, where did all that come from? Well, I guess this happened in the middle of the grief, like through it, right? So there is a process. And I think Spiritual development happens in the middle of it. No one wants to hear that. Right. No one wants to be chiseled. No one wants to be refined, but really that is one of the ways God refines us is through our storms of life. And so there's chiseling and also like he changed me so much. Like I'm so grateful. I don't want to go back to that person. I was before the non self aware, the non empathetic, you know, now I have compassion and empathy for people that I never had before. And it wasn't. A way that I got it in a happy way. It was a, you know, I've walked through something really hard, but then I saw, wow, if God can meet me this way now, I want to come and give that same hope to someone else. Maybe that's what I love about my mentor is her perspective and this new storm of life that she's walking through is mind blowing to me because she's looking at is who am I going to be able to help along this journey that I wouldn't be able to help if I didn't have this diagnosis. And it's like, Whoa, who thinks like that? Usually you're just like, why am I here? God, why me? Why now? I just think perspective is a big part of it. If we can shift our eyes off of us and say, God, I know this is hard. You're going to grow me. I know through it. And you're going to use it to help someone else. So there isn't one way to grieve, but numbing the grief is not greedy, you know, watching Netflix and just ignoring it, avoiding it. That's not going through it. So there are ways that. Some people think, oh, I'm just reading. I'm just, you know, putting it past me. It's like, well, no, I don't think that's how it works. You have to actually let yourself feel it and move through it. So I think that word through is actually really important. I'm glad you pointed that out in the title and the subtitle.

Laura 9:48

I don't think your words are written down without a purpose. There's a lot of negatives there. I do think your words were written down with a purpose and, the book offers so much hope to, to people that are hurting, whether they've been through miscarriage, divorce loss, there's a lot of hope that's in here. And you talk about the spiritual depth and the growth and then the deep roots, right? Why does growing deeper matter so much?

Jodi Rosser 10:20

That's so good. Well, I love it. Like when we have the Santa Ana winds here in California, it's like, you know, we don't get a lot of big storms. Let's just be honest. But we get these things called Santa Ana winds and for us, this is big. I'm telling you, we, at the end of it, trees are all knocked over all around. You can walk around and see trees that have been completely uprooted by the wind. And so, you gotta have deep roots, not just to survive in life, but if you want God to take you to these higher levels, like if you have a calling on your life, like, he's not going to take you there if he doesn't think you're going to be able to withstand What happens when you're there. So you have to go deep first, and then God teaches you higher. I like to look at it as like Joseph in the Bible. He's my favorite Bible character. And God's big calling for him. And when he was a young teenager, God enlightened him that he was going to have, he had these dreams that people were going to be bowing down to him. And, you know, he was so unselfaware. I kind of relate to him as a, I was unselfaware for many years, but you know, he was bragging about him to his brothers, not the wisest choice, but. But God placed this calling on his life, but he wasn't mature yet to be able to get to that place and, and, and do the calling. Well, right. He would have failed if God put him directly in like Pharaoh's like he wasn't wrote. He hadn't had any depth. He didn't have any character development. He just had this calling from God. So how did God grow those things to get. Him ready. Well, in order to get him ready for this high calling ad, you want to take them deep first, right? So that depth is so important. If you want to do great things for Jesus, if you want to have a ministry, if you want to have a business I believe that it starts with that hidden deep growth that happens just between you and God. It's not something that anyone really sees. You know, sometimes it happens in the storms of life where you wish your circumstances were different, but I think in Joseph's case. Each time he was growing deeper because it says the Lord was with Joseph. When I read this book while detours by Tony Evans, and he said, the Lord was with Joseph because Joseph was with the Lord. And it was just this beautiful, like, wow. Think about all the things that happened to him. He could easily just been like, I'm out. I don't know why you gave me this dream. You know, it's not happening. I'm stuck in prison. But no, the prison guard promoted him if he was complaining and just bitter. Joseph would not have promoted him. So each time Joseph was able to have a perspective. I can't wait to meet him in heaven someday and ask him, how did you do it? Because I'm so in awe of him, but I do his character didn't match the calling. So in order for God to get him to the character, to match the calling he had put on his life, he had to grow his roots deep first when he did that through detours. And so depth is important, not just so we can withstand the storms of life. I mean, that's important. But what if you want to thrive in life? What if you want to say, God has this plan for me, this big dream, he's got side streams, which we can't do on our own Laura. Like we need to have God help us get us there. Right. Like the business you have, like everything. God's going to take us and grow us deep first so we can match that calling. So I love to think of it like bamboo, but it's just really fun. So bamboo for the first five years of its life, you see no external growth. It just looks like it's dead. You know, you plant the seeds and you think bamboos died, but the whole five years. The roots are growing down because bamboo is 100 ft tall. In order to match that 100 ft height, it has to have five years of depth going down the match. It's, it's life is 100 feet tall. So I just sit there and I think to be like a little shrub that just grows to be like, I want God to take me to these big places. But in order to do that, I'm like, God, if you have to take five years, you have to take however many years and you have to like, grow me deep first. It's hard. Like no one, no one sees that growth. But it's so powerful because he's got plans for you, right?

Laura 13:44

My mind is blown because I have heard this bamboo analogy with children where you read to them for five years and then they learn to read where, or you, you just wait because it looks like nothing's happening. And then it shoots to the sky. Nobody's ever talked about the root system of bamboo before I didn't realize I, I guess in my mind, I didn't make the connection that obviously you need deep roots to get so tall Nobody's ever brought up the roots of bamboo before, so my mind is blown.

Jodi Rosser 14:13

I love it.

Laura 14:14

I have not talked about on the podcast, and so I'm not going to get into real specifics here, but I have been in this season of everything going wrong. Where everything feels like it's going wrong. Maybe this is my Joseph moment, where I've had the vision. I know where I'm going. I know what's promised to me, and I just keep falling into pits. Like it just keeps. Or being shoved, I'm not really sure which, and it's almost like I heard an analogy where a bow and arrow, when you pull the bow back, you have to get it taught. and then you keep pulling. And then you keep pulling and, and then you release it. Once you release it, the arrow can fly. But I'm, I'm at the stage of the extra pulling and I'm like, can we stop

Jodi Rosser 15:01

You're at the character development stage, honey, where you are. I'm the character development stage.

Laura 15:05

It's frustrating and it's hard, but it's necessary. And I know that it's for a purpose. I know that there's somewhere that I'm going eventually, and hopefully it's going to be beneficial to the other people that I get to teach and I get to, to encourage. And if I can use that to touch one other person, it's worth it.

Jodi Rosser 15:26

So worth it. Yes.

Laura 15:27

I like to say I'm an influencer. I have four followers and they're the ones that I'm growing and they are the ones that are most important. And so having them watch me go through. A trial and come out the other side, if nobody else hears this podcast, but my children learn from it, I feel like it's been a blessing, but people are listening and people are going to learn from this.

Jodi Rosser 15:49

I just want to say one thing. I do remember someone saying to me, like about your kids and their faith. How do you help your kids have become in their faith and not just wait that, you've taught them. And I just think that it's so important that they see you model it. So like the year after the divorce, they would walk in my room and I was up with my Bible and I wasn't trying to be over spiritual. I was reading it cause I was in survival mode, Laura, like I needed help, but they saw me live out what I had been telling them for years. Right. And so I just think it's powerful. Like don't make that hidden where they don't know what you're up to. You know, yes, it should be with you and God, and you're not broadcasting it to the whole world. And you're, you know, don't take selfies and post it on social media. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, let your kids see your faith. Let them see when you're having a hard time. What do you do? I pray. Let them see that when you're having a hard time, you, you know, reach out to a friend and, or you claim a verse or, you know, let's let you see your faith. I think that will be powerful in the legacy you leave behind. Anyway, that's a little side note. I thought I'd throw in.

Laura 16:47

I think for the accelerators listening, that is the legacy piece. When it comes to our spiritual walk, the legacy that we leave is what our children watch us do. It is not going to be the words that we say to them because. I think this is the area where they see whether or not you mean what you say.

Jodi Rosser 17:06

Correct.

Laura 17:07

It's very similar in money. It's like, you told me to save my money, but you've never saved a dime. Why would I do that? It's more important in the spiritual realm that they see you and emulate you. So I, I think that's really important. I'm glad we went there on this because I think it's. I think it's vital. Going back to your book, you have an acrostic in the middle of your book, and we're heading through heartbreak to strength. The acrostic is strength. One of the pieces that you talk about in this book is the shame that is around divorce. There's a lot of shame around money as well. And so I thought it would be really wonderful for my listeners to hear you talk about shame. This is part of the the in and the acrostic the never lose sight of God's grace. Can you tell us more about how to overcome that shame?

Jodi Rosser 18:02

Yeah, I'm happy to. Well, first of all, I just think shame is a hard emotion because no one talks about it. First of all, I want to say. Shame is not from God. So if you are feeling shame, I want you to hear that God wants you to be free from shame. He wants you to have those shackles of shame released and you experience the freedom, his grace, because that is what. He did for us on the cross when Jesus came, he, he got rid of the sin and the shame if we're a believer. So, so for me, I went through a divorce and I was embarrassed and maybe like if someone's listening and they have financial, like you said, you went through the bankruptcy, you know, there's this, there is a level of like, I don't want anyone to know, right? Like I didn't want anyone to know that our family was walking through this. And so that is the first thing that happened. And I remember sitting in my counseling. And I had worked through a lot of the anger and I'd worked through a lot of the sadness and when I just said there's an emotion that I haven't addressed and I, I don't know how to deal with this. It's the shame. Like, I don't want anyone to know. I am so embarrassed. Our family was a strong Christian family. Like, I don't want people to find out, which, of course, they're going to eventually find out. Right? So I just felt like this, this, what's the word? Just, I was embarrassed. I guess that's the best way for me to say it. So I remember going to this conference and it was a woman of faith conference, and I thought I was going to hear my favorite speaker, which I did, but there was a woman that took the stage. Her name was Lisa Bavier and her book was called girls with swords. And she's a powerhouse speaker. I had never heard her before, and she soon became one of my favorites. But she got up on stage and talked about the movie Terminator. And she said she was watching it with her son, and there's this woman, and there's people from the future coming back. One's trying to kill her, one's trying to protect her, and she's completely confused. And she turns to the guy, protects her, and she's like, I don't understand, I haven't done anything. And he turns to her and he goes, but you will. And she said, at that moment in time, she thought, wait a minute. Sometimes in our lives, we have things that we are going to do in our life for Jesus. And maybe Satan's coming to attack us before because he knows where we're going to be. And it was just like aha moment. She goes, maybe what you're going through right now in the spiritual tech has nothing to do with right now, but has to do with who you're going to be in five years and 10 years. And I just sat there when I thought she was just talking to me, you know, cause I was in the middle of this place and I was feeling like, I don't want anyone to know. I felt like I couldn't be used by God anymore. I had. God can't use me because I've been through a divorce anyway, this is where I was. When she said that, it was like, I just had this aha moment. Like Satan, you almost had me. But actually, God has you in those places sometimes because he wants to use you, right? Like, like, help someone who's been through a divorce. It's better to help someone that's walked through a financial thing than someone that's walked through financially. Who's better to help someone in an addiction than someone in addiction? Like none of those things disqualify you. God can use you through any of your choices, through any of the things that have happened to you, through someone else's choices, through none of it disqualifies you. When I had that moment in time where I was like, Whoa, I may have a broken heart, but I'm not a broken vessel. God can still use me. But I remember just putting it on repeat and saying it again and like shouting it. I may have a broken heart, but I'm not a broken vessel. God can use me. And I'm telling you that weekend. I became like a powerhouse of like, watch out saying, now you thought you could shut me down. I'm now going to tell the whole world that God doesn't ever have a shackle than shame. That's not where he has us. He has us in a place of freedom by his grace. And if he has you in a place where it was a choice you made or a choice that someone made that affected you, wherever it is through forgiveness, like God can get you through it again, through it, right? He wants you to share your story to help another hurting heart. Eventually he's going to say, I want you to use this hard thing to help someone else. And Laura, that's what you're doing. You've taken this hard thing. You and your spouse went through with the bankruptcy and now look, you're helping others ways to live in a financial way, in a better choices. Right. And like, and, and yes, you could have said that that was part of my story. Like that's no one's business and I don't want them to know. And that's living shackled in shame. Now you're helping people in a way that you can like enter into it with them in a way that you couldn't have if you hadn't walked through it. So I could come alongside someone that's walking through divorce and say, I know how hard it is. I know sometimes it's not what you wanted for your family, but God can still help you through it. God can still use you. God still has a plan for your life. It's not like he's now like, Oh, you're done. That doesn't happen. He doesn't ever do that. So, Someone that's sitting there right now and feeling that embarrassment or you don't want anyone to know it's totally normal, by the way, but don't stay stuck there. Is that helpful?

Laura 22:26

I think so. I, I'm one of these people that firmly believes you have to say it out loud to let it go. You're not going to work through your shame all in your head. It's never going to go away because it's just going to cycle through. But if we call it out, it loses power. And so I'm not saying go out and start a podcast where you talk about all of the horrible things you've done in your life. That's not what I'm saying. But I am saying there are people that are open and willing to hear those places where you feel the shame. I work with people specifically that are going through these financial troubles. I mean, I don't just work with people that are in trouble. I work with people that are making a lot of money and they feel shame around making money. Mm. You know, Christians aren't supposed to be rich. I'm like, where does it say that in the Bible? Where? Show me. It doesn't. The world talks about money in so many different ways. And depending on where we come from, not having money is shameful. Having money is shameful. Thinking about money is shameful. Like there's so many places where, It can go wrong for a person if they allow the outside world to dictate how they feel about things. And you and I both know that if we let God dictate how we feel about things. We're going to be much more peaceful and there's not going to be that shame and negativity and overwhelm. That's where so much more of this calm and this peace are going to come in. I think that true joy comes from going through these heartbreaks. We will never understand true joy if we've never hurt, if we've never been sad.

Jodi Rosser 24:02

I Love what you said about money. I think the Bible is very clear. It's the love of money. That is the problem. It's not having money. It's not, not having, it's not talks about the love of money. When money becomes more than your love for God or your love for people. So anyways, just for someone that's listening, there is no shame in the other areas, unless money, it's become an idol to you. And that's the love. The love of money has become bigger and greater than your love of God or your love for people. That's my two cents.

Laura 24:27

I appreciate it. It's worth more than two cents. Especially with inflation, it's worth much more. But okay, Jodi, as we bring this podcast to a close. Thank Can you tell me what you would like your legacy to be?

Jodi Rosser 24:40

Ooh. Oh, laura, that's a good question. Now I got to think of something. I really want my kids to know that God will never, ever waste one thing that they go through. Because I know for a fact that my kids are going to walk through hard things. And I read this book. Sadly, he's passed away since then, but it was called shattered dreams. And it was talking about how he had a hard time. Cause he realized that when our dreams are shattered, that's when we grow the most, but he's like, how do I pray for my kids to have shattered dreams? And he's like, I don't want them to. So I always pray that god will meet them in the middle of whatever disappointments they walk through And whether they're devastations or just disappointments because there's different levels, right? I just pray that they will always turn to god in the middle of them I hope that they've seen me do that and model it that they never turn their back I love the quote by john orbrook that says if you ask people when they grew the most in their faith The answer is suffering but if you ask people when they walked away from their faith, the answer is suffering So when that suffering happens, you have a choice. What are you going to do with it? That's the catalyst. Is it going to bring you closer to God? Is it going to grow your roots deeper? Is it going to change the life, your faith life? I hope so. I hope it allows you to have the most growth ever. so I hope my legacy for my kids is they will see that they will walk through something hard. And I hope that they run to Jesus with it. And they take their broken pieces and they say, God, I didn't want this in my life. I never wanted this divorce. I never wanted this. Miscarriage or infertility or whatever they walk through, like all the hard things, right? But I know you can use them. I've seen you do it with my mom. I hope, I know, I know, I don't hope, I know you can do it again for me. Like that, and I hope that they know that their faith is going to deepen in a way that ain't ever possible. I guess that would be my legacy I'd want to leave behind.

Laura 26:20

That's beautiful. All right, well, I want people to know how to go get your book. Can you tell them where they can find you on the internet and where they can get the book?

Jodi Rosser 26:30

Yes. Okay. So I have a website called Jody Rosser. com. So my name's with an I, so it's J O D I R O S S E R. com. Everything's there. There's a link to the book. They can get it on Amazon. They can get it any of the places, Barnes and Noble. If they want a signed copy, which I think is kind of fun. I do sell the book. They can email me at the depth book at gmail. com. So it's just the D E P T H book at gmail. com. And I will. Work it out with them and I'm happy to sign this. I know it's fun to get a signed copy. Also there's a link for my podcast and all the things on like if I were speaking or my blog, all that is on my website. So that's kind of like the hub to find me, but I'm also on social media. I think Instagram and Facebook are probably the two I'm on the most. I do have accounts in some of the other ones, but I don't check them as regularly, but Facebook and Instagram I'm and I'm Jody dot Rosser on those.

Laura 27:17

Wonderful. And I'll have the links to everything in the show notes. So people can easily click and get over there. The book is fabulous. I finally got it over from my book share friend. Jodi came to speak at our mothers of preschoolers event. And, I have a friend that she and I trade off who buys the book that time and she and I share and it's wonderful because we have our own little book club and I love that.

Jodi Rosser 27:41

I love that too.

Laura 27:43

Well, Jodi, thank you for being here. Accelerators, I hope that you got something out of this that we have not talked about before. If there's anything that you want me to go deeper on, please reach out. Check out Jodi's podcast because she goes pretty deep on some things too. But alright, Accelerators, thank you for being here. Go out and make a difference. Thank you for investing your time with us today on the Accelerate Your Legacy podcast. Remember, your legacy isn't just measured in dollars and cents, but in the tools, habits, mindset, and reputation you leave behind. Don't just listen to the show, but take action on what you've learned. Share this wisdom with a friend who can benefit and help us spread the word by rating and reviewing the podcast. For questions or encouragement, reach out to me on Instagram at Accelerate Your Legacy or explore the resources listed in the show notes. I will be back with you next week. Until then, build your legacy with intention.