Beyond Labels Podcast

Episode #203: Joel Salatin vs. John Klar Showdown: Should Tax Dollars Be Taken from Big Ag and Given to Small Farmers?

Joel Salatin, Dr. Sina McCullough Episode 203

In this fast-moving, good-natured sparring match, Polyface Farm’s Joel Salatin trades jabs with Vermont attorney-turned-regenerative-farmer John Klar.

From $500-million-a-year lobbying blitzes to whether a backyard grower should accept government cash for a high tunnel, the duo tackles thorny questions you won’t hear on cable news:

  • Does the Constitution even allow D.C. to pay farmers?
  • Could “transitional” micro-grants jump-start small farms—or just spawn 10,000 Tyson spin-offs?If subsidies vanished tomorrow, would real food cost more—or finally cost less?

Join us as we ask: should government dollars grow kale—or simply get out of the field?

We’d love to hear from you!  Our Community Question this week is: 

Should we shift taxpayer dollars away from Big Ag to small farmers and then phase subsidies out all together?


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