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036: How to Get More Energy Beyond the Basics

March 19, 2024 Mike Chang | Stephen Yeh
036: How to Get More Energy Beyond the Basics
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Body Over Mind
036: How to Get More Energy Beyond the Basics
Mar 19, 2024
Mike Chang | Stephen Yeh


The podcast episode delves into an unconventional factor affecting energy levels beyond the typical recommendations of exercise, sleep, and diet. Stephen and Mike discuss the impact of ejaculation on energy and mental clarity, highlighting how the release of sexual fluids can lead to a significant drain in energy and cognitive function. They emphasize the importance of abstaining from ejaculation for at least two weeks to experience a notable increase in energy and mental clarity. The conversation challenges common perceptions and offers insights into optimizing energy levels for improved overall well-being.

Connect with Mike Chang:
- Instagram: @mikechangofficial
-Youtube: Mike Chang
- Website: www.flow60.com

Connect with Stephen Yeh:
-Instagram: @iamstephenyeh
-Twitter: @iamstephenyeh

Show Notes Transcript


The podcast episode delves into an unconventional factor affecting energy levels beyond the typical recommendations of exercise, sleep, and diet. Stephen and Mike discuss the impact of ejaculation on energy and mental clarity, highlighting how the release of sexual fluids can lead to a significant drain in energy and cognitive function. They emphasize the importance of abstaining from ejaculation for at least two weeks to experience a notable increase in energy and mental clarity. The conversation challenges common perceptions and offers insights into optimizing energy levels for improved overall well-being.

Connect with Mike Chang:
- Instagram: @mikechangofficial
-Youtube: Mike Chang
- Website: www.flow60.com

Connect with Stephen Yeh:
-Instagram: @iamstephenyeh
-Twitter: @iamstephenyeh

Stephen (00:14)
Welcome to another episode of Body Over Mind. This is your host, Stephen Yeh, with your cohost, Mike Chang. And today we're going to be talking about various, not various.

a secret to more energy beyond I sleep and die.

Welcome to another episode of Body Over Mind. This is your host, Stephen Yeh, with your co-host, Mike Chang. And today we will be talking about how to bring more energy into your body beyond just exercising or sleeping or diet, which is usually the trio that we recommend to other people. But here's another one that is huge. If you can actually really do this properly, you'll find that it can...

increase your energy by quite a lot. So Mike, let's dive into that. What is that extra factor that can help increase your energy?

mike (01:23)

So this factor is ejaculation. It's releasing fluids, sexual fluids.

Many times we, you know, we don't think about this, you know, causing energy drain, but every time when we do it, you can sense the feeling you're more relaxed. Right. You're just a little more chill and it's not by accident that this is happening. Our sexual fluids is a massive amount of energy that's in the body. It's the most actually.

It's the fluid that takes the longest to create. It's the part of the body that takes the longest to create. And so therefore when we release it, just, you know, just because we oh, casually are, are having sex or we decide to just have self-pleasure. If we release it, the consequences is massive on our energy level and on our mental clarity, which is even a bigger thing.

It's one thing just to have low energy, but also we don't realize how much it's affecting our mind. We lack creativity. We lacked the ability to remember, to even think. Now it sounds really extreme because somebody's like, wow, I don't feel like it's that extreme for me. But the fact is most people


Most people are so used to ejaculating. They're so used to releasing their fluids that they don't have a reference point to how it's like to have extreme mental clarity. They don't know how it's like to be able to remember things at a higher level, to be more creative because they're releasing constantly. It takes about two weeks to really rebuild that energy inside of us.

But imagine that if a person is releasing every day, every other day, every three days, they don't get enough time to build up to be able to tell that their energy is higher, that their mind is somehow working better without having to do anything different because by the time that starts to happen, it leaves again. They have a, they have a nice fun time at night or whatever time is. And then it's gone.

So they never really get to experience the difference. So they don't know that a higher level of clarity, a higher level of energy exists. This is just the way they always feel. And people are usually like this for most of their life. Ever since they started to have ejaculations or start to have excreting of sexual fluids, which I think for a lot of people is in the teenage years. So you imagine that a person's in their thirties and forties and they never experienced anything different.

I just always feel this way. This is just the way my body is. It's just the way my mind is. They don't know any difference.

So by stopping the ejaculation, by stopping the release of sexual fluids for at least two weeks, a person will see a dramatic change in their energy level and their mental clarity.

Stephen (05:18)
Hmm. I mean, so far in my experience, I definitely feel that. There's also people on the other side of the fence who are saying, you know what? They're like, ejaculation is normal. It's just part of the human process. And, you know, they say that, you know, if you don't ejaculate and you're masturbating or having sex, what can happen is, you know, developing blue balls.

and just frustration overall. So, what would you say to people who experience that type of thing, or even just having that type of mindset?

mike (06:02)
Well, it's as ridiculous as if I don't eat, I get angry. Right. People try to make sense of that. Oh, I I'm because I I'm hungry and I don't have food. So now I get so mad. What are you talking about? Why would you get mad? You know, same thing. Somebody goes blue balls. Oh, okay. I didn't get to go and come. So now I get frustrated. What is your frustration have to do with the fact that you didn't get what you want?

Stephen (06:08)
Heh heh.

Hmm.

Hmm.

mike (06:32)
Wait, now let's take a look at the issue. People think that they are frustrated, that they're angry, that they're worried, and that it has to do with other people. It has to do with the situations. When in fact, the reality is everybody's responsible for the way they feel. People are responsible for their own emotions, but when they don't take responsibility for their own emotions, they blame it on everything. They blame it on somebody else. They blame it on the event. They blame it on something that's happening.

A person's frustration has nothing to do with whether or not they ejaculated or not. Okay. If somebody is frustrated because they didn't, they can just take a look in their life and they're going to see that they're all so frustrated with a lot of other things. So what is it? You're frustrated from here. You're frustrated when you don't get what you want. You're frustrated when someone doesn't understand you. You're frustrated when someone cuts you off. You're frustrated when you're low on time. You're frustrated when you.

don't have food and you want to eat right now, you're frustrated, et cetera. When someone leaves you a comment that you don't like. Now, when a person takes a step back and take a look at all the things that they get frustrated about, maybe they're going to realize that it's not, it's not. The outside world. It's me. Maybe I'm the one that's actually has a lot of frustration on the inside and it's coming out from a lot of different situations in life.

And the overarching situation, if we had to put it all under one umbrella, we'll call it not getting what I want.

People get upset as if it was supposed to happen that way. As if we were all supposed to get what we want. As if the world is like this big magic genie doesn't work that way. So when I think when a person recognizes, you know, of course they're going to agree. Right. Yeah, that's silly. We don't get what we want in life all the time. You know, we've got to work for it and we are going to fail and yes. So therefore, why would you get frustrated?

Somebody, they just have to remember that they're responsible for the way they feel and that every emotion that they have is their own. And when a person is really desperate to go ahead and finish when they're in some type of sexual activity, that desperation that's coming from this need, this lack. The bigger that we, the, when we are desperate about something, that means we really lack that thing, whatever that thing is.

If I'm really desperate to eat, that means I'm really, really hungry. If I'm desperate to go ahead and ejaculate, then that means I am really, really in a lot of discomfort and frustration, which is why I need to go and experience some pleasure to the point to where I feel really desperate.

So if we go all the way back, can somebody actually do this? Right. The fact is there are many people in the world that have discovered this and are now sustaining from ejaculating men and women are sustaining from releasing their fluids and because of that, they're able to stay more focused, they're able to stay more energized in their body. They have more motivation.

to go ahead and do the things that they need to do. While the opposite is completely true as well for the people that are not, and that they're always releasing. They lack motivation, they lack clarity and they wonder why, and they are constantly having to force themselves. I mean, if we look at the world today and we look at the amount of people that lack motivation to go and do the things that they need to do, they lack motivation to go after their dreams, everybody's got dreams, everybody's wants something.

But most people aren't really going after it, not fully. And they wonder why. And they're scratching their head going, maybe it's this, maybe it's this, maybe it's this, and I'm telling you that a big part of it is because you constantly release your energy, so you're releasing your motivation, you're releasing your energy, you're releasing what's going to give you the drive.

It's really simple, most people don't wanna hear this.

Stephen (10:50)
I was just listening to a leading neuroscientist, Andrew Huberman, and he was talking about, he was looking at some of the PubMed studies out there. And it's hard to find because it's hard to make a study around this, but what he did find was that, couple different things. One is that during sex, it helps to increase your testosterone, but then once you ejaculate,

A lot of that just goes away. And what happens is prolactin is released inside of your body, which suppresses your testosterone from being developed more. And then that's also why, you know, there's more fatigue in the body and there's this lack of motivation. And what they found is that if you can have sex, which is kind of increasing that testosterone inside and give you more energy,

but not ejaculate, they're saying that over time, it can actually increase your testosterone up to 400%, which is fascinating.

mike (12:02)
Yes. That's the, that's the middle. That's the middle way to do it. This way you can have the best of all worlds.

Stephen (12:05)
You know, so, you know, that's.

That's challenging though. It is, you know, I think I've, I've...

mike (12:14)
Well...

Stephen (12:23)
Sometimes I can actually control it, and then other times it's challenging. So it's funny, it's like one of those things I really wanna master as well, especially since like when I was younger, even like, I think maybe I started at 11 or 12, I had one of those black boxes where you can watch pay-per-views and all that. So.

On the pay-per-views, of course, they had the adult channel. I'd watch it, I would masturbate. And this happened, it was like at least once per day. And I remember when I was a teenager, I was always tired. I was always tired. I mean, there was multiple factors. One, for sure, nowadays I know for sure it's that, but there's also sleep and things like this. But.

You know, I remember shifting and maybe when I was like 18 or 19, I either heard about it somewhere or, you know, I read about it somewhere. I decided to make a shift and stop watching porn and, and what I found was that kind of like what you're saying. Just after a few days or whatever it is, I felt like I was more energized.

You know, another thing that I found when I was younger was I was very scared to talk with girls. And I was very timid. But then once I stopped watching porn, ejaculating, something naturally just shifted inside. Where I felt this more of a prowess inside and just felt naturally more confident. It was fascinating to just be aware of.

mike (14:14)
Well, there's like a number of things happening there, right? When our energy is higher, we're less fearful. When our energy is low, naturally we turn to fear. Naturally we get, we get worried. And if we feel worried, if we feel frustrated, if we feel fearful, then we also think in the same way. So therefore, if we are approaching, uh, approaching somebody and you're attracted to them, you want to talk to them, and then if you're feeling fear because your energy is so low, then you're going to think in that.

as well, right? And another thing is all the different, uh, oftentimes when somebody is constantly focusing on sex, then when they're looking at somebody, they can't just go and casually talk to them in the back of their mind, they're thinking of sexual images and sexual intentions. You know, they're imagining all these different, different things in their mind, so they're not being present. So now they will feel awkward.

Now they feel like there's something up their sleeve and they're hiding something. And then now that, that way of communicating, it shows through the other side. This person can tell a person is not being authentic. So then that really hurts, it hurts a person from, you know, being able to really connect and get to know the other. And so then that's happening with a lot of, you know, with a lot of people. And then now you're in this vicious circle. A person feels lonely. So then when they're lonely, they go ahead and masturbate and there's this way they can go and give you short pleasures because they're not.

getting it from social life. And then when they try to go ahead and talk to somebody and try to go ahead and, and create a social interaction, they're awkward. Yeah. So now they're stuck in this loop.

Yeah, I think, I think there's a lot of, a lot of teenagers that are like that. You know, I was, I was similar. I didn't know about this. So then my mind, it's like, you know, when I was younger, Oh, okay, I'm feeling down. Okay. Well, you know, I can masturbate and they'll make me feel better right away. But then it never really helped, you know, or it got to the point to where somebody's bored, like they didn't know what to do. And when a person is used to constantly doing that, then by default, it's like, well, that's the thing that you can do all the time.

Stephen (15:58)
Yeah.

mike (16:27)
So now you got somebody, now you get addicted, you know, and then addicted to masturbation, which is a really big issue among young folks nowadays. That means the actual activity that they're addicted to is draining, is draining them big time because it's, it's worse. It's really bad when you ejaculate three times a week. Like that's keeping your energy low. You do it once a day and you are just.

totally out of it. You do it multiple times a day and you can't even function for any daily life. Everything is just, you don't care. You don't care. What's the point. And so it really creates a massive, massive problem for someone's psyche.

Stephen (17:10)
And what's a shift as well is also just like what you said earlier, you don't really feel it until you at least try it, right? Because your normal everyday life is, let's say, in that state. So you feel like that's kind of just how life is and that's how you operate. But then once you start making these shifts...

then you can start to feel that there are some changes happening and you might just feel more alive. I think that's another thing that in general people feel like they're lacking is like a lack of purpose or a lack of aliveness in their life. And essentially, if you think about it, the sperm and the substance that is inside of

are the components that can make a living being. So it's such potent, powerful fluid that you have to really preserve because it's interesting because it's, you know, it's.

It's such a prevalent thing, especially in our world right now, to watch porn. And, you know, I think I heard it's like the 25% of the internet or something like that. And, you know, from time to time, I even get stuck in those loops. And when I do, I could feel that, you know, there is a huge just gash into, into my energy levels. And I really have to check myself when that happens. You know, the...

ancient yogis and the ancient Taoists who really focused on aligning themselves. And you can see that a lot of them were also the ones who lived for a very long time as well. This was one of the main practices that they would do is non-ejaculation and learning how to circulate that energy in their body.

mike (19:23)
So that's when that's what somebody means when they talk about using the sexual energy. And I think a lot of people, um, a lot of people don't fully understand what that means. They think they want to use sex as a way to go ahead and navigate throughout the day, like not physical sex, but sexual energy. Cause you know, when we think about sexual energy, what comes in mind, right? Like what is a person

going to act when they go, okay, I'm going to use this sexual energy. So they're thinking I have this sexualness. So then they're thinking I'm going to be sexual and now I'm going to use this energy to do things. They have it backwards. That's not what it was meant to do. When somebody talks about sexual energy, that just means the energy that resides in that area of the body has nothing to do with sex. That's nothing to do with sex. It's just energy.

Stephen (20:14)
Mm.

mike (20:19)
But it's like, we can call it a heart energy and suddenly someone goes, Oh, it's love and no, it's just energy. It's, it's like, but, but we need more clarity on it. So when we are talking about transmuting that sexual energy and using that sexual energy to create, right? What we're really saying is that the energy that is there in the bottom, there, bring that energy upwards. Don't

Stephen (20:22)
Huh.

Hmm.

mike (20:47)
exhausted, don't use it up. Don't waste it. Right. Don't waste it ejaculating. Instead maintain that energy in the body. And that energy can now be expressed to create, to think about things, to figure things out, to drive towards one's goals. That's what that's meant to do. And now if we want to bring that energy upwards, then we can go ahead and do different practices.

to go ahead and bring the energy up like doing Mula bond as we're basically perineum holds, which is tightening the perineum muscle. And then breathing inwards and imagining the energy going up towards the third eye and the, and the crown top of the head. That also helps as well, because the thing is when we are constantly focusing on our genitals, automatically there's thoughts of sex.

Because what are you going to use your genitals for? There's only a few things you can use it for. So automatically it turns into sex. And then automatically, if we are focused on creating value, doing something in the world, we're focusing on creating something, there's a good chance that it's not about sex. So therefore, if we are focusing our attention down there, and then we only think about sex, then it disturbs our focus from trying to go ahead and create.

Stephen (21:44)
Mm-hmm. Hmm.

mike (22:08)
So then now, instead of focusing so much down there, we bring the energy upwards. So bring the energy upwards means, number one, we're not exhausting the energy, and number two, we focus up here. We're not focusing on our growing all the time. That's another thing. A lot of times people are trying to do this, but they keep focusing on their growing. How are they gonna not think about sex if they're constantly focusing on their growing?

Stephen (22:36)
Hmm

mike (22:38)
If they're constantly grabbing, they're going all the, how's that going to happen? You know, it doesn't work that way. So therefore they have to go ahead and stop focusing on their growing so much. It's not going nowhere. It's going to stay there. And now automatically they can direct their focus somewhere else. And when they direct their focus to here in the head area, here in their eyes area on what they're focusing on, because how do we become present of things? There are different senses that we have.

right, to be able to interpret the present moment. But our eyes, seeing what's happening in front of us is a really big sense that many of us use. So now we get focused on our eyes, we get focused on what's in front of us. The energy is here.

The energy is not down there now. So automatically in our reality, the genitals not existing at this moment. So now what do we need to do? I mean, you go do this, we can do this when you do that. So automatically it helps us to be able to not constantly think about sex, which then will lead to the ejaculation. And I think you mentioned earlier, right? The best of both worlds is to, you can have sex and not ejaculate, which is. Good.

But also it's very difficult because it's like, you're always having to test your level of mastery.

You know, and you know, for some people that are really, um, they're really disciplined, great. Yeah. It's not, uh, they're really confident on not going overboard on not releasing. So it's fine. But can you imagine somebody who's not super disciplined? They're so, and every time they're having sex, they get all the way to the close to the edge and they're about to come and they need to stop themselves. Then you go and fight and stop themselves and relax, relax.

Stephen (24:05)
Hmm

mike (24:34)
And then afterwards they either stop or then they go all the way to the edge again. And so it's like every time it's like taunting themselves. And I would ask the question of, well, why would you do that? If you have the level of mastery, you have the level of control, go ahead. But if you have, if you don't, and you have some important things that you need to focus on, then don't drain your energy, don't go ahead and set yourself up to constantly fail.

Stephen (24:40)
Hmm.

mike (25:04)
Because that's basically what happens. Right? If you think about it, if somebody has sex, either they're going to succeed and not ejaculate or they're going to come. And then they're lost. They're done for the next week and a half to two weeks. That's the consequence. They're done from this five minutes, from this 30 minutes, wherever timeframe they're done. You can't, you can't take it back. You got something important to do tomorrow. You got create, you got to go and do things. You got to work tomorrow. You're done.

Stephen (25:27)
Hmm.

mike (25:33)
Good luck. Your performance will be at best par. You can't perform any higher. You don't have the capacity. It doesn't matter. It's not about how hard you try. You see, that's the thing. It's not like a person can try their best, but they can only perform at the level of their energy. They can only perform at the level of what their mind can expand to. So they're done.

Stephen (25:53)
Mm.

mike (26:00)
When I have sex, if I'm going to ejaculate, that's what I'm thinking. Am I going to the next week and a half to two weeks? Can I, can I sacrifice this? Um, yeah, because Hey, let's just be real. It's really nice. It feels really good to ejaculate, but it also feels really good to be on top of your game. And sometimes we got to choose.

And then if you go, Oh, you know, it's worth it. It's worth it. You worth it. And then did you ever have it? Then you go and come and then you're like, Oh crap. It wasn't worth it. Right. If you don't realize it, the moment after the next day, for somebody that has tracked this, they can tell the next day they're not firing on all cylinders. And then they go, why, why did I do that? Okay. Well, it's already done. So let me remember.

Let me just do the best I can and let it go. But next time around, it's going to, the situation's going to happen again. The next time I'm going to have sex is going to happen again. And I need to get really clear. So we'll pay attention to the fact that I can't operate on full capacity. But going back to our earlier conversation, a person has to be able to tell the reference point between low energy and how it's like to have full energy, full clarity, 30 days. Cut it out.

for 30 days. Two weeks is how long it takes to charge up. But once you're charged up, you don't know how it's like to operate in full energy to full clarity to just be able to be so sharp and so focused, because you just got that full power. So if you just go ahead and drain it out and exhaust it out, well, you don't have time to really experience it. So it takes about two weeks to charge up. And then go ahead and experience it for two weeks. See how it's like.

to be able to have the clarity, to be able to figure things out quickly, to stay focused, to have drive. And remember that it's coming from a number of things, but the biggest thing, the foundational thing, is your energy, and that's coming from not releasing your fluids. 30 days. Now, if you guys are listening, 30 days. Try it out. The people in our program, 60 days. I tell them, when you're in this program, cut that out.

Because you need all of your energy. You need all of your awareness to be able to do this program well. If you're releasing it all the time, you can try your best and you're going to be in a struggle.

Stephen (28:40)
So I got a question for you because do you feel like there's a balance because right now so far I feel like we're painting a picture of like any type of ejaculation you're going to be losing out on a lot, right? So there's also, you know, certain studies that I looked up and found where, you know, they did a study of let's say about 32,000 men and they said that the study is suggesting that

the people who have higher ejaculation frequency generally had, that was associated with a lower risk of prostate cancer. So essentially it's saying the more that you ejaculate, the less likely you'll get prostate cancer. Now, I'm not exactly sure if that's true or not. Supposedly in these studies, that's what it's showing. But, you know, it...

Is there like, okay, like for sure, you're gonna reserve a lot more of your energy, but maybe there's actually some benefits of ejaculic.

mike (29:46)
So I say, it says lower in prostate cancer because of, because of that. So then maybe prostate cancer is coming because a prob, somebody has problems. They have, they don't have enough energy down there because they're just unhealthy. So then we can say that a person who's having sex is healthier than a person who's

Stephen (30:07)
Hmm.

mike (30:15)
not having sex. But that still doesn't mean ejaculation. It just so happened that most people that are having sex are ejaculating. Because if we look at a person, a person is depressed. Are they... Oh, a person who's depressed. Are they having sex?

Stephen (30:26)
Hmm. Or watching porn.

mike (30:32)
Right? Probably not. A person who's, who's got a lot of issues in their life. Do they have a sexual partner that they're actively having sex? Or do they even have a sexual partner? A lot of these people are alone.

So statistics are not always very accurate. They are what they are. But when you take certain data and you try to go and prove a point with one points of data, it doesn't mean there's too many other variables to really say that that's exactly what the causation. Because that study is saying, um, if you ejaculate lower prostate cancer.

If you look at it, how did they come up with this data?

Right. How many people are ejaculating? Okay. All these people are ejaculating. Okay. So then now let's go and measure, measure the, uh, the prostate cancer there.

If you go, if you go and find a whole bunch of yogis that realize this and they don't ejaculate, and then now look at the prostate cancer right there. You can do that as well. And then the data will show that people that don't ejaculate have a higher, I have higher health and less prostate cancer, even lower than the ones that are ejaculating, but that would come from somebody who wants to prove that point.

Stephen (32:02)
Mm.

mike (32:06)
That's the thing about data. You know, it's not that it's, uh, it's not, it's not that it's not useful, but we, we use it as one reference, but it doesn't mean that that's what it is. Because if somebody wants to prove something else, all they do is spend some time and money and they prove something else.

Stephen (32:20)
Mm.

mike (32:27)
But it doesn't mean that it was accurate, it was real. We can prove a lot of things.

We can come up with a lot of data to support a story, any story.

I think when somebody is, is asking the question, well, is this good or bad? You know what I would just tell them? Well, number one, is there a problem that you want to change? Do you have low energy? Do you have fogginess? Do you, are you finding that you're not as sharp as you would like to be? And the answer is yeah. Yeah. I do have some fogginess. I want to be sharper.

And yeah, I don't feel like my energy is really high. Okay. Well then try this out for 30 days. What are you sacrificing? You know, what's the big sacrifice? Because we're not the only ones talking about this. There are, you can look this up everywhere. There's many people talking about this. It's becoming more popular as time goes on. So you have really nothing to lose. Worst case is it didn't work. Yeah.

Stephen (33:24)
Mm.

Yeah, it's become a whole movement. It's huge nowadays. It's called NoFap.

mike (33:43)
Worst case is it doesn't work and then you can go back to ejaculating. But if you give it for 30 days and then now you see what's happening. Now let's say, cause here's what happens sometimes. A person goes through the 30 days. They're feeling good, but they don't remember how it's like to feel low energy because it's not like a just switch one day, every day that a person is not

releasing fluids, they become a little bit stronger. They become a little more focused. So it's not like I go from fogginess to suddenly I'm alert. It takes time. So by the time somebody gets to 30 days, they may not have realized how much more energy they have. They may not have realized how much more focused they are.

So this is very common. This is like a person with exercises who doesn't see the results, not because results aren't happening, but because they're not able to track it because that's a big part of the process, being able to track the change. But if a person runs into the scenario where they're not able to track the change, once they go ahead and release fluids, then they will see the difference. A person can believe what they want at the end of 30 days.

Stephen (34:58)
Hmm. Yeah.

mike (35:02)
If they didn't ejaculate, they can go, you know, I feel okay, or it's about the same. Okay. Sure. Now go ahead and ejaculate and see what happens. And now a person will see the difference until then they can go, well, it's seen to be, but I can't tell. Well, once you go ahead and release it, and then now you're going to be able to tell because that's the need is to see the reference point. People don't have a reference point most of the time.

Stephen (35:28)
Hmm.

mike (35:30)
I've done this over and over and over for many years. Cause I remember I'm speaking from firsthand experience. I couldn't see the difference. I was like, I think there's a difference, but I don't know. So then what happens is then I would release my fluids and then I'll go, Oh, wow. Okay. I, yeah, that's much lower. Okay. But then maybe it was something else because, you know, there's change in diets. What happened to a person is exercising versus not exercising.

There's a lot of these moving variables. So then I went ahead and personally tested it over and over and over and over for seven, eight years now, until I have no doubt in my mind, because I am seeing all the little details because there are so many variables that can change in a person's life. So if you really want to see it for yourself, test it out in your own life.

You can read all the different studies. And if you read one perspective, they're going to talk about what we're talking about here, how this is going to drain you. You read another perspective, like, well, Stephen sharing, and then there's studies that show a lower prostate cancer. So ultimately you want to go and try it out for yourself. Yeah. So you can really see the real, you know, the real truth, which is the one that you experience. And that's the most important.

If you tell me, I will tell you any day of the week that this is going to make a big difference. But I don't want people to blindly believe what I say. I want people to go ahead and try it out for themselves. So this way they can believe their own experience, which is more valuable than what anybody else can tell you.

Stephen (37:17)
And obviously you still have to do your best in terms of your sleep, what you're eating, moving your body, those are some of the most fundamentals. But this is another aspect that is absolutely, absolutely huge in terms of just making a difference in your energy levels. Yeah, anything else you'd like to share Mike?

mike (37:39)
If, if a person did not, the last thing on the sleep and the eating and the movement, I even, I tested out to where just from ejaculating, I would eat besides that. I would eat, I would train, I would get good sleep, but because I ejaculated, because I released my fluids, energy was exhausted, tired, fatigued. And the biggest difference for me.

What's the lack of clarity? I'm used to being able to. Access a lot of information to have all this know all the things that I need to talk about, come up with examples, pull things that are all there. It's like, I can have access to a lot of information. When I ejaculate poof gone. I know, I know it, but I can't access it. I have done this so many times to where there's no doubt in my mind. Not a single doubt is happening.

Stephen (38:24)
Hehehehe

mike (38:34)
And that's why every time if I'm led with a decision here, of should I go ahead and finish?

I have to think, okay, how much do I want to be clear? How, how on top of my, of my game do I want to be? Because it will make that massive difference.

Yeah, that's it.

Stephen (39:02)
Well, thank you guys once again to listening to another episode of Body Over Minds. Hopefully this was something that you guys can really take in and for those that are brave enough to go experience it and test it out for yourself, hopefully go and do that and then you'll just see for yourself if it actually works for you and you'll know the truth for yourself. Alright, thanks once again and we'll see you on the next episode.