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101 - The Calirado Kid Speaks: Mountain Biking & Creating Relatable Content
This engaging episode features the Calirado Kid, whose authentic and humorous mountain biking videos have built him a substantial following with videos regularly reaching hundreds of thousands viewers. While he shares interesting glimpses into creating his popular videos, the conversation primarily delivers valuable insights from his extensive riding experiences across Arizona's technical terrain, Colorado's epic mountains, and Northern California's diverse trails. Mountain biking enthusiasts will appreciate his detailed analysis of what makes southwest trails distinctive with their challenging rocky features, technical climbs, and rewarding descents like Bug Springs which he describes as "just the shuttle downhill chunk – an exciting ride for sure."
The episode offers practical mountain biking wisdom about gear choices, with the Calirado Kid making a compelling case that dropper posts might actually be more essential than suspension for versatile trail riding. Riders will benefit from specific trail recommendations including the legendary "Graham Cracker" with its impressive 6,300 feet of continuous descent and insights about night riding with quality lighting systems from Outbound Lights. The discussion concludes with valuable perspectives on mountain biking's mental health benefits, with the Calirado Kid explaining how riding helps process negative thoughts and discover creative solutions – providing listeners with both technical trail knowledge and inspiration to use mountain biking as a tool for improving overall wellbeing.
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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caliradokid/
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Hey, I kind of noticed that you looked a little sad.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah, man, it's been like a really tough week.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:What's going on?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:You know, you remember my pet parrot.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:You know, I don't know why, but like a few months ago he just started like gorging on food and he just kept eating and eating and eating and he got fatter and fatter and fatter Like he like obesity, fat just huge. And then, uh, like this week he died holy shit man.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I'm sorry about that.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Like holy crap it's okay, man it's. It's actually like a huge weight off my shoulders that was a lot of work it was a lot of work. Yeah, the scripted ones like not as good. What do?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:you think I feel like we need to practice you think so? Yeah, I feel that that was a little forced it was too forced.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:What do you think joe is?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:it too forced.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):No, it was good. The acting was brilliant, that I was waiting for the end scene. Yes, oh yeah, we need to get the little clapper thing.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, I don't know what that thing's called, but the little clapper thing. I just want one, just so I can clap it all the time.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):My buddy got the clapper in high school. Wait, are we talking about the same thing?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, it's the one that does the lights right.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah, yeah, I think he's talking about the clap.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Oh no, you're talking about the clapper. I got the clap in high school. The clap only does one light.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, yeesh.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:All right, it is Thursday night here on the MCP and we are joined by the illustrious. We call him CRK. He has yet to acknowledge that that's real Charlie Romeo Kilo for those that like NATO phonetics, otherwise known as the Calirado Colorado.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Calirado Kid. Hey, what's up with the name. Where'd that come from? Side note I guess CRK is better than idiot, which is what most people call me. So. I'll take CRK over that any day I feel like CRK is cool. Yeah, it works fine. What do I care? It's like yeah, it's fine, it works great.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:It's almost like a millennial that can't say a full word because they're too cool to say it's military, my ex-military, like we make everything like an acronym.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Sorry, man, and they're just doing that.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):crk, yep, crk yeah instead of like saying professional, it'll be like profess or something you're like oh, it's really that hard or pro okay well, let's see, pro see, yeah, exactly forever, you know ah so skibbity, yeah, skibbity, toilet.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:How old are your kids, joe?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):franco's turning 12, my daughter's turning, she's nine, so it's like they're right, you got the skibbity toilet that's the age for that, right in the zone. So please explain this toilet thing to me, franco, please.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, it's, yeah, it's crazy uh turner the whole way back when we were doing uh trail work with uh wade holland and turner he was there yeah, I know, but did you hear my son like just grilling him like? No fortnight, and and first of all, my son is like trying to get his phone so he can download fortnight Wade's phone, and then basically is educating Wade on Fortnite the entire hike where we're doing trail work.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah, I was like Wade, are you going to have kids? He's like, well, I was yeah.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, exactly, oh, my God, he's second guessing it now. It's for sure, back when we grew up like you would play a game, you would beat it and then you buy a new game and play that game and beat it and now like they never these live service games essentially like fortnight the kids just play one game all the time although do you play.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:You play video games because I've seen some of your shorts where you're I do yeah like it's raining, let's go play video games yeah yeah, so like, uh, I gotta tell you, like the fortnight I'm getting hooked on it, which sucks, but it's a way that Turner and I have been able to bond, you know. So I hang out with my boy and we get to do something together, and but, man, if you go on that thing, there's like a million different games They've got all kinds of sub games sub racing.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):There's like mini games, there's all like basically, they created an entire ecosystem that you go into and you don't leave.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Essentially, yeah they have this free-for-all, where you just get dropped in and you can pick any gun and any car and then once you're out of the little zone where all the weapons are, once you get out of there you can shoot them and it's just like free-for-all man, everybody's shooting, everybody driving over, everybody's. Like, like you, just two man, enter one man you sprint to a car and you try and get out of everybody's way and to go otherwise you just get killed right away. Yeah, it's, it's crazy, it's, it's chaos, that's for sure.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):So I had highly considered once I went full-time, like starting a video game channel because it's like that's one of my passions in life too. I grew up playing games and I still enjoy it. Like I have far less time now to play stuff than I used to, right, so it's like I'll get like maybe an hour and uh every now and then, like so it's not as as much, but it's like the trends I see in the gaming industry and stuff. I just want to rant on them so hard. I'm like just when I discovered the fortnight financial ecosystem, it was like mind-boggling, like I couldn't believe it was legal, like essentially like freaking brilliant seven.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:it cost me seven700 a year, probably, maybe more than that.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):V-Bucks are crazy, but that's way too far. On a tangent, this is a mountain biking podcast.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I don't want to get us too off the rails One day. Listen to my video game podcast guys. What I really want is for Fortnite to have mountain bikes.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, no, what's his name? He's making a mountain bike. Video game's going to be on steam. That'd be awesome. All right, I'll find it while we're discussing here.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I'll I'll do a little research before we get too deep, I noticed in your studio shed there. Are you still calling it? What were you calling it? The cali radio shack yeah I noticed you had a, had a, had a, had a. I watched video recently where you, where you were like outfitting that super cool man, as a matter of fact. I'm like huh, I'm like pricing it out.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I'm like maybe I should, but I'm like.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I think if we got here it's okay. But, um, I noticed you had a like a wall of whiskey or a shelf of whiskey. By the way, very cool that you, like you know, did the whole back country mill thing and cut that piece yourself. That's pretty awesome. But, um, I'm drinking a new whiskey tonight that I never had before called oh uh, tucker. Yeah, they've been tucker called yep, if you've had it before, obviously you recognize it right from the bottom.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I have, yeah damn it I thought I was going to introduce you to something new no, you know what?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):like the whiskey game is interesting. And again, we haven't talked about mountain biking at all yet, but here we go.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Okay, whiskey goes the whiskey scene.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I was really into it for a good amount of time. I still enjoy whiskey. I drink that more than anything else, especially over beer. I think I just don't like drinking the tons of beers. It's just you feel Empty calories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like having a nice glass of whiskey or something whatever. But you get into the barrel picks, you get into these high-end picks and everything bottles like 100, 150 and just escalating and then you got a whole bar full of that and you're like what have I done here? So I definitely like graduated back down to the basics. I'm like give me a, give me like a woodford double oak like, which is like a 40 50 dollar bottle or something fantastic 50 and sub is I'm good with it now, yeah, do you think bike companies should should have a brand of whiskey?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):yeah, for sure, I think so 100 or at least a beer I feel like the beer thing is so rooted in mountain biking that, like I don't know, the whiskey is so prevalent in it. But it's like everybody, just everything is beer when you go on a ride oh, we brought beers, or this is always beer.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):So we can like, but we can change that, yeah, I think I think companies have gotten involved like I work with the shoots brewery and they were doing, uh, like the dry january, so we did a video with them and they're very like. It seemed like they understood what we were doing.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah and you got new belgium does fat tire yeah, oh yeah, I feel like you know somebody else could do like a pivot or uh. Uh, you know yeah I almost said revel and that's not gonna happen.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah well, the problem is as with as with anything, there's a million there's already like it's like think of your craft breweries at the time that they were like getting like really popular because there was a few of them in your town and now there's 18 million of them like it's like how can they sustain, I don't know, and they're coming and going like crazy.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So, like you know, like I'm always wondering which one's sticking around, so yeah, and they get to, they get.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):They've gotten the point where they get a resort on on gummy worm style beers. There's a place locally here that they do gummy bear something beer.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Oh yeah.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):We've gone too far. That sounds gross. Yeah, gummy worm beers or something.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah it's not good. I think it's boredom. Yeah, hey, so I want to thank you first of all. You came out recently. It's where we got to meet you.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:You came out. Came Got to meet you. He came out. He came out. Yeah, he came out, he came out, he came out. I didn't see that he did. He came out, he came out. Congratulations. I'm glad you're going through the transition. That is so brave.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Now we sound like the Narcouch because that's what they did. They took about seven jokes that direction. I'm sorry. Anyways, you came out um, did some, did some promotion for our amazing secret mountain biking and gastronomy city here, and so first of all I just wanted to say thank you, and you did a fantastic job on the content that you guys created. I thought it was super cool. Especially the old tucson stuff was sick, oh yeah that was unreal.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I don't know, I haven't listened to the full just podcast yet. I'm about halfway in, uh, but I don't know if she told you the story about that. Like when we originally reached out to visit Tucson, we were on the phone with them. We were having a call and that was the agency and it was visit Tucson and all that stuff. And she was like hey, can we get access to old Tucson? And I had never been out there so I didn't know what that meant. So essentially, uh, they're like, yeah, we got you. And Jess is like, just go look it up. And I said, look, I looked up old Tucson after the call, just wild West town. I was like this is awesome. So we we always just like think of like baseline ideas, Like all right, what's something we could shoot there, what's something else? So we have a couple ideas and we go there and when we go there they tell us to come into the employee entrance, which is already a good start to this day.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, and when we come in, we're greeted by this guy, Greg, who's like he's the head of the stunt guys, so I don't know if nobody's ever been to old Tucson. Essentially, they have people out there, they're actors and stunt people all over the place and they do mock fights and gun and gun shootouts and all this stuff like it all takes place there. Yeah, so, greg, he's like the head of the operations for that stuff.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):And he says all right, come on in guys we got to get you to wardrobe, I was like what? This, this is gonna be the greatest thing in my life. Like right here. As soon as we got there, like jess and I were like picking out clothes, we're like this is incredible.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):And like those are the moments, like as a creator, that you, like you never thought you'd get a chance to do, and it was like it really like sets in that we get to do this. So they gave us that. They've us in a wardrobe. We got everything set up and we were already like this is incredible. And he's like, all right, we're going to get you to the armory because we need to get you guns. We're like, yeah, and then they let us loose with our mountain bikes and our guns and everything onto the park and they basically said, if you see an actor or just grab them or whatever, make sure it's cool. And it was cool and we ended up getting involved in some of the stuff and it was definitely one of the funnest shoots we ever did. Like it was fun, like trying to stage it to where there's not people in the background. Even though I did the comedy, I think like just having like tourists walking around behind us like with those.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I'm just picturing a tourist with those visors that are green yeah, like scissors, just walking around with their japanese guy with a camera like a flower shirt.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):You know totally right and so, like we shot that out there and it was like I was editing it and like jess was editing something on the couch. We were, and tony was there, we're all in the airbnb together. Uh, and I was like, all right, I think I got a rough cut and she comes over and, of course, like the first cut's, just like we just fucking start dying, you know what I mean. And uh, and so we're like, all right, what can we do? And I was like we need some sound effects.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):So I was like I get the horse sound effects, I get the you know the classic sound and we're adding all these elements in and I was like I was like I don't care if this video does well or not like this is one of the funnest videos to shoot and edit proud of, yeah, it was so fun that's.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):And luckily, when we went to sea otter, like everybody was asking about it, like it was so cool, because, like you know, people are like, oh, that old tucson, so I was like it was cool. You sometimes you think like, oh, 180 000 or 200 000 views isn't that much, yeah, uh, you know, in our world sometimes, but it's like that's a lot of people, yeah a lot of people, yeah, yeah it's that's amazing, because we get like four.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah, shut up, man, we do not we are in the top 10 mountain bike podcast in the world.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I will remind you that there's nine of them.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I heard rule number 37. Take the credit for yourself.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Is that correct, is it?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:27 or 37?.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I think it's 37.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:37, yes, we rock dude. Our consumption rates are off the charts.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:That's true, except for him, who's only 50% true, brilliant, it's true, except for him, who's only 50% through the podcast. It's funny. He goes, you know what. So he said that and I'm like they're hard to digest, aren't they? No, no, no. You know what the funniest thing is?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I almost never listen to podcasts because, you know, one of the reasons why I just put music on in the truck and whatever is because it it lets. It leaves me alone with my thoughts, like I'm not really listening to the lyrics and the song, and that's where I think of the ideas that I get. So, like recently I did a trip down to Everyman Jack HQ. We had to unveil this like PTO campaign, which is like personal time outside.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Like, really like promoting, like.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I think you saw your post today, right, yeah, I was like take your time off, like go outside and don't worry about your work it'll be there when you get back. Like go outside and enjoy, and like help your mental state, help your physical state, and so we all know that we ride bikes, so as soon as you go on a bike ride, you feel better yeah, it's therapy we had to go down there and shoot.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):It's about a two-hour drive down to the hq from where I'm at and so like I really spent those two hours, like I already had a basic idea but refining the idea, so I came in with a shot list like I already knew every scene I wanted to shoot. I knew, and like the whole time I'm just thinking of that on the way and down, so like that's where like just having background music essentially for me is like important. I just I really hash out the ideas and so having someone's uh talking in my head like ruins it. So because I'm thinking about, I'm listening intently, you know, so I'm gonna finish it.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I am gonna finish so I I'm the opposite, Like I usually don't want to hear the voices in my head, so I'll listen to somebody else talking, and so I absorb like I. So I do suspension all day long at the shop and I'll sit there and listen to a podcast or watch a show while I'm doing it and I can just zone out and just just plow through work and uh, but you're right, my, I think I'm most creative and have my best ideas in the morning in the shower. Yeah, you ever like?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):yeah, it's like you do almost have to like get through the fog of the negativity. Like you know what I'm like, everybody knows their brains wander sometimes, and especially like in our world, where it's like oh, video didn't do great, maybe I suck at this, and like all those voices come first, yeah, and you gotta kind of wade through that and then then you can find the gems behind it. It's like, uh, but the more you're left alone with your thoughts the motorcycle's been kind of helpful for that, because, like I didn't have a comm system and stuff built into the headset yet, I just installed one, yeah, but it's like there's no music or nothing, like you're alone with your thoughts for hours at a time, like, and that's been interesting I used to do that riding, so for practice, for training.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I would go out at nine at night and I would hit this, this uh section of uh, we call it the loop in tucson. It's really famous. It's a concrete like uh, yeah, 150 miles 150 miles along our washes. That's huge, and I would go at nine at night when nobody's out there and just hammer for two hours and then come home and I didn't have a stereo or any buds in or anything like that and I would just think about stuff, usually about girls, yeah.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah, yeah.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, motivator.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:And then this was precarious, oh yeah, this is like way.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:This is when I was kind of racing cross country right before downhill and then I would get home and go to bed and I would sleep great I don't think I've ever slept that good since I used to have that regimen.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Hey Joe, so back to Tucson. Yeah, a little bit, which I learned to spell as Tuxon. Tuxon.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I was misspelling it so much that Apple didn't correct me anymore. That's how many times I texted Tuscon, not Tuxon T-U-S, it's T-U-C. It happens all the time.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:It does happen.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:That and Saguaro right.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Saguaro, saguaro.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Saguaro. We don't have any duplicate questions between you and Jess.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So just so you know.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:So Jess didn't tell us anything that you're going to, that we're going to ask you, but um, you rode, bugs spring, you mean.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):JTM yeah, jtm, jtm See he just threw it right back at us. Oh, my God.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Uh, you rode bug Springs, you rode to some mountain park, or what we call star pass Um, or what we call star pass um you rode 50 year.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):You ride anything else on those, those three trails when you were here. No, because we did star pass twice um. We did kind of an easy loop one day with jess and tony, and then then we did one uh with I'm forgetting his name right now, but he's one of the head of the trail work um yeah yeah yeah, exactly, yeah so we did a nice cruise with nat and uh, so it was fun.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):It was definitely like scenic exercisey riding. But the, the cactus stuff, is so fascinating I'd like the I can't get over the terrain like it's so cool, like it's so cool. And then, of course, like bugs was just like right up my alley, just the shuttle downhill chunk like oh that's one of my that was the most exciting ride for sure so so while you're here, I got a a chance After you guys came out and did the trail day with us.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I got just a little tiny glimpse into your ideation process and I was just fascinated. You and Jess were there and you guys were riffing off each other, and then you probably don't remember this, but we were sitting on the side of Rolly's, which is like a taco place, and you pulled up your phone and showed me like, like here's all my ideas and you just kept streaming and streaming, and streaming and streaming and there was, like I don't even know, hundreds of ideas in there.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I'd love to hear more about, like, your ideation process, like, like how does it work for you?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, most of it's like whether the hard part is like early on you got to learn to write these things down, cause, like I would be like getting ready for like in bed, like about to fall asleep, and then something might pop in and be like, oh, that's funny. And then I'd fall asleep and I wake up and it's gone Right. So I was like that could have been a gold idea right there. So you really have to almost like get up and make the note, like whether it's just the first thought, it's just like you know what if a guy did this, you know, and then you can go back and flesh that out later. And so oftentimes if something pops in, I at least make a note of it.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I might not ever use it, but it's like at least I can go back and refer to it and be like all right, how do I make that funny? Do I make that a skit based thing, or do I make that like a, like a simple, like two shot thing, like where there's no talking? One thing we've learned when it comes to social media is that if you have no dialogue in your videos, they will do better because they can reach a broader crowd, like because there's no language barrier, right? So that's inherently. If you have no length, no, no, uh, talking, then it could reach anybody and they could all understand it.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So if you could do it that way, yeah right, we're fucked we're a podcast.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:How are we gonna do that? That's right. I guess we could switch to different languages only our, our limits, going to be all english speakers yeah or yeah, well, not being said, you can still have dialogue.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Obviously, like I talk a lot, I like doing skip based stuff, so I make the stuff that I like and it still does well, but it's, like you know, for mass appeal. Those those videos that have like almost no audio. You'll see sea bass, actually normal mountain biker. A lot of his videos he doesn't talk at all, it's just facial expressions and that's because he knows that too. He knows that it will reach further, a broader audience across the world because there's no language barrier. So those are the little things we know about social media wow, look at that relatability.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I like that never. I'd never thought about just yeah you know, don't like we. We look at our addressable market. I'm a strategist, by the way, that's my day job. So we look at our addressable market and it's like english-speaking mountain bikers that like podcasts, and I've got like a number, like here's the number of english speaking mountain bikers that like podcasts in the world.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):By the way, it's 1.8 million that's what we think our addressable market is yeah, across the world I when maybe I should be translating these I don't know that could be.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Uh, I noticed that, um, I watch a lot of youtube uh, not youtube, uh, instagram with the sound off. So when I watch videos, if the sounds on, like if I have to turn the sound off, uh or on, because I'm usually doing in the bathroom in secret so my family doesn't is that during sexy time too?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:no, no, it's like yeah, I do it I do it yeah, no, I do it at work too.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I hide in the bathroom and like I watch you know reels and stuff, and but I can't have the sound on because then the guys will know I'm screwing around yeah, so I can't have that.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:You just outed yourself.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):You realized that at least one guy in your shop listens to this podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is probably something we've all done, but it's like that also is also why it's important to put captions, despite you know it was like because yeah if there's no audio, like again, statistically speaking, there's at least 50 of people that are listening with no audience actually quite higher, I believe.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):But, like you know, this isn't like strategy. This is just stuff we learned over the course of doing things over years. But I still like stick to my guns and I make the stuff I like to make because otherwise, like you know, it be fun. Right, if I was just trying to make things that would go viral, like it would be far less fun than just making a silly thing that came into my head.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So you get, you know we we you make it look so easy, Like I. Every time you see one of your videos, you're like, absolutely Like, everybody relates to it and they're like oh yeah, I totally felt like that and and it's like it's those brilliance that comes out when you're just like you know what this is. It's so simple, but the amount of work that you have to put in is it just blows me away. Yeah, I just do GoPro videos of my ride and it I have.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:That's how he started.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Well, we did, we did a ride. Did you hear? Did Nat tell you about the graham cracker while you guys are in town?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I don't think so, the graham. Tell me some more, a couple hours. Tell me some more 17 miles.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:If you do the whole graham cracker, only 17?. 17 miles, 6,300 feet of descending. Yeah, I think it's one of the biggest contiguous downhill sections in the country.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:It's amazing and so contiguous downhill sections in the country, it's amazing. And so we did it last Sunday and I was just oh man, it was just such an epic thing. And I took this new, I took the new GoPro I don't know three. It's not an Insta 360, but it's the 360 GoPro.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:The Max.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, it's not the Max lens, it's got the two lenses.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):By the way, he's got three. It's called a Max. He's got three main sponsors. It's called the GoPro. Max Is GoPro.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Is GoPro? Here it's called the GoPro Max.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I'm assuming it's not an Insta360. No, no, because they just unveiled the X5, and that?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:no, it's not that.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):That's an Insta right you have a GoPro max, then probably Cause this is um yeah this is Insta 360 stuff. This is the new X five. This one just came out.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Oh, that's cool. So, I think I'm going to get one of those Cause people say that that one's better.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Do you know you can go to Joe's like page or his website and you can get an affiliate link?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:that'll help me, actually, but no, it's, uh, I actually. The point is yeah, I, it's what it's thursday and I wrote that sunday. I haven't even touched that camera. I don't know what the footage I've no, I've not edited, I haven't even looked at it. I honestly don't know, because that thing was orientated a certain way and I I don't know if it was actually filming correctly yeah, we could get shots of your penis the whole way down it may be my nostrils, I don't know.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I thought it was actually filming correctly. Yeah, we could get shots of your penis the whole way down. It may be my nostrils, wouldn't you ride with your penis?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:out. I don't know, I thought it was the only one. Yeah, no, I have no idea. So I have all this footage. It could be garbage or it could be gold.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:He rides with his penis out and still nobody knows.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Nobody can see it, so yeah.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Nobody knows. And, by the way, the stuff you're talking about is strategy, strategery, strategery. So I use a tool called Claude. I love Claude. I keep like pouncing Claude.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:They're based out of you know I want to say something right here because I'm learning a lot from. Joe and Jess and all these Claude's not giving you shit, bullshit, like they not. No. Shut the front door you need to call up Claude and be like.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I'm going to tell you, listen, listen.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Hey, we we have like 17 listeners and you should be paying us.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:We have way more than 17. You got to add many zeros.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I always think of the dark night when the Joker said if you're good at something, don't.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Let me get the point. Let me get to my point here. Based on my search, I found that, according to Instagram's internal data, 80% of Reels are viewed with the sound on 80 on 8-0.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Okay.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:This means that approximately 20% of Instagram Reel viewers watch with the sound off.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I think that's wrong.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I feel like that's wrong too, I think there's far more people with audio off.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I think your statistics are wrong on Claude.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Okay off, I think your statistics are wrong. On claude okay, yeah, so it is possible. They furthermore say that if you include all videos, not just reels, 40 of instagram videos overall are watched with sound off I feel like that's just.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, I'm willing to bet it's more.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Actually I'm gonna go I'm actually gonna go through data and verify this, because this is what I do and I'm gonna get back to you, joe and let you know if claude claude, because these ai tools do have a hallucination.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Change the name. Let's call him bob bob.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):We should find ask him the the amount of people that watch the social media while they're on the toilet. We'll give us a number for that yeah, because I'm telling you it's high it's very sure it is, I do it.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:yeah, I'm sure it's like a hot, it's like everybody Like yeah, I now.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:have you ever dropped your phone in the? No no, neither have I. I'm not saying, I have.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Joe, have you? Have you dropped your phone in the toilet while you've been watching?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:No, I have not. No, okay, I've heard it. I told you the the scorpion story.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:No, oh, did you get a scorpion? Bite your butt.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:No, no, my buddy, one of my teammates. He's big into records and so he had to go to the bathroom. So he's reading the record sleeve while he's on the pot and a scorpion fell out of the sleeve and stung him on the pee-pee.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:No, I'm not even kidding, no way I'm not kidding Did you see it Shout out to andre.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I would need visual evidence to confirm.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying no, I'm telling you prove it, give me, show me a picture. I'm telling you.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):If it was uh from the scorpions, it would be even better. That would have been now, then I wouldn't have believed it if he had said that I would have been like that's bullshit, but no this guy is uh is infallible.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I'm telling you he, he's is infallible.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I'm telling you he cannot tell a lie Infallible, he's definitely infallible at this point.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:But yeah, could you imagine? Because he told us about the scorpion and I'm like dude, how did you get stuck on the pee-pee? I mean, how did that happen? You've got to tell us what happened. And then he told us a story and it's actually plausible.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:It's plausible.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:It's plausible, yeah, Like, but cause? You know you? You put your crate of records on the floor right, and the scorpion goes into a nice little pocket on the sleeve of the record and it just hangs out that's this new house. And then you open it up and he comes out pissed off.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:All right. Bob says that a recent 2025 survey found that 54% of Americans admit social media apps are the most are most used on the toilet.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):No way Sounds. Way, sounds about, right. Yeah, I think it's higher than that, uh, so so we're just questioning we're questioning my tool here.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:For some reason. When you call it bob, I trust it more okay, I'm gonna go for that. Claude claude is like who trusts a claude yeah, what is he?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:french or something. Yeah, I would totally trust it. So it's hot as hell in sacramento in the summer yeah, yeah hot as hell in tucson in summer. Do you guys ride a lot at night in the early mornings in sacramento in the summer?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):uh, that would require me to wake up early, which I'm not a big fan of or night night.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:You don't have to wake up early I might do night rides.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Honestly, I get kind of accustomed to the heat and if I do ride I'm riding near the lake or something. I'll just jump in the water mid-ride or something. So it's not as like troublesome as you would suspect. And we could get up now to like the high Sierras and stuff and the temperature will drop by like 10, 15 degrees.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So how far a drive is that?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Oh, it was from me, like Southlake. It's only like an hour and 20, hour and 30. It's like not bad at all.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, that's like top Mount Lemmon or a little longer yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Do you have a light brand sponsor? Say that again.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Do you have a light?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:brand sponsor.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Well, I work with Outbound but they're not my sponsor. I've always loved those guys. I remember back in the day, so I went night riding somewhere here in Granite Bay, maybe even before I started the channel, maybe I just started it. Either way, this guy, ashley, I knew he was like, oh, dude, these are the best lights, these Outbound lights sick, well, I'll just get those. And I, you know, look, they're pricey, yeah, but they also last forever.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):They're made, you know, here it's like the, the guys behind it are great engineers and so, anyways, I bought them. They're still running my original pair. So when I started doing some ad production for them, so I like would do some I've done some ad for the ads for them they put in a rotation yeah, that uh have done really well for them, which is awesome. Um, they were like, oh, we'll send you some lights. I'm like, yeah, I mean, if you want to, the only reason I had them send me new lights is because, uh, the logo was kind of worn down because I beat it up over three years you know, so they're still working great like it's.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Uh, I was like yeah, whatever you guys want to do this was like the perfect setup, because I was about to like try to sell them on outbound and he sold us on outbound.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So I've seen his videos on outbound I did not see those. Oh, they pop up all the time, and so, on the trip that I told you we're doing, we're going to come through SAC, but we're going to Bellingham. I'm going to see if I can hook up with. Tom. Oh yeah, tom's right up there, yeah, yeah, and I may be able to go do some night rides with him on some real steep, nasty stuff.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah that'd be fun. Tom's a good dude course at sea otter. And then we went to dinner together at the chowder house so I get to hang out that the outbound crew. We're just nice eating. They're eating a big old chowder bowls out of bread and stuff and we're just hanging out. So yeah, usually I always catch up with them at every festival and stuff and tom's always a good dude.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So they're out there too, uh. We do the 24 hour in the old club, though, out here, yep, and they're out there, uh, with that, so we should probably just just inform joe that we have made an offer to sponsor you and Jess and CBAS, cbas. Whoever wants to come wait, maybe we need five.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Oh, the five hour, yeah, we we we're offering to sponsor your team If you guys want to come out. I think they allow e-bikes.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):No, oh yeah, cbas isn't going to do it, then you know what?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:It's not that hard. Look at me. I'm like. I'm not as big as sea bass, but I'm not that small I think you tell him that I don't know.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):We'll talk.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I've never seen him not ride a non e-bike. You tell him, come out here and I'll ride every day with him, but but I think that could be a part of the shtick where you kind of hide his bike. Maybe put a wrap over it and try and the whole shtick is him trying to sneak out on the course.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I fucking love that Right. Well, I thought it'd be funny is if?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):we got Brendan involved and Brendan would keep trying to engineer solutions on how to improve our performance, but it kept backfiring. It's just nonstop. Like how many laps did you guys get done over 24 hours?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Like two.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):He's like all right, I got this jet engine, let's try this out. And it's just like everything, backfires.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I work for a missile company.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I could get you a jet engine. Yes, I think he has one. I think, he already made a jet engine video.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Oh my gosh, Well they got RC jet engines that are really big, but I could get something a little bit.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, but you got to put it on a bike.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I mean you can't put like an right engage, boom, all right, go, and then like it takes off, and then like a second later it's me running past the other direction, like on fire running. We'll get that gel, you know the fireproof gel stuff, and I'll take one for the team and I'll just run through frame and that would be the shot.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:You could spend the entire weekend of the 24 just filming about how you can sneak on the course in various ways with engines and e-bikes and what have you Well, you guys can see how my mind works.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I mean, like everything's an idea, right? Oh yeah.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:It's like the tire guys, who can't walk through a parking lot without picking out the tires that need to be replaced. You just do it. You know you're just like you're in it, like you're just like you're in it, like you're always on.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I need to, I need to take a minute to like bring it down to like a real serious level, okay roger that we need to do a well I thought you're gonna fart just there I'm not, I'm not.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:He does like to get everybody quiet. We're not the narcoach, we don't have a fart we don't have a fart mic or whatever um, I love those guys.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:By the way, I'm not talking shit about them oh yeah, everybody jokes with each other.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:We're just messing around okay.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:So, um, honestly, we want to do a wellness check on you, joe, because you have said publicly at least 14 times that I've heard that, since you quit your day job as a broadcast engineer in january, that you're headed towards financial ruin.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So we just want to do a wellness check and see how's it going man, are you doing?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):okay, we need to start a go fund me like I say that jokingly because like, like, anything could go wrong at any point, but that's the whole risk of life, right. So I mean I've got enough things in the, in the pipe. That's like I'm actually okay, like I was like, yeah, we're okay right now, like I don't have to think about that much and I could just focus on doing stuff. So I haven't had to struggle yet and I'm sure that's going to come, and then I'll find new solutions to problems and do it all that stuff. But yeah, I just did some really cool deals. I was working with Strava on some stuff. I was working with, uh, finishing REI thing recently. Um, I just did a thing with honey st works.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So cool, cool. Yeah, that's awesome man, and honestly, we were talking about um everyman jack yeah did I get that right? Okay, I'm sorry, but just because of you, we were talking about that I think we're both gonna go out and buy so you've got at least two additional customers.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah I'm telling you right now, dude, that company is legit and like I say this, like I may have said this before, but like I've been so fortunate to be able to pick and choose who I work with and I know still people hate when they see an ad or something, but like they have to understand this is like one it's going to keep me moving forward with content and stuff. But also like I pride myself on the stuff that I make, like I think it's good, you know, and I still like, even if it's an ad, I know I put my heart and soul into it. Like that, that everymanjack like pto spot is like we, it's funny, that was a lot of work like, regardless of the fact that it was, I mean the content to me.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah, you know, you can obviously see the stuff and I think it actually says, you know, paid promotion, whatever on top on instagram anyways. But, um, it's good, it's good content. So, whether it's ad or not, I don't know, and I think that's the best ad is the one that's like I want to watch it.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):You know, super bullshit, I want to watch it even if it's an ad yeah, I, that's what I try, like I can see that eventually, like ultimately, like that's why I like my business is called california productions, essentially like it, so it's separate. But it's like that could be that like where I approach companies and like, hey, I, here's what I've done in the past on my own page, here's what I could do for you, you know, and I think it would be an easy sell, like if you handed that everyman jack spot to someone and said they would think there's a production company or something behind. It's just me, it was me right. So, um, it's been good and, like you know, we talk about everyman jack. They have been a. They were one of the first like major sponsors I had on the page three something years ago and they reached out and I thought it was a joke at first.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I was like what? But uh, they're very cool, they have a great atmosphere. Like Like Brad, I went and showed him Nevada City, him and his buddies One of the guys that works there, brad, he mountain bikes, he gravel bikes, he does everything. Lonnie, I work with her, she surfs and she's doing a marathon this weekend. So they're all like very much outdoors focused, just like the company is, and they're always doing like they do beach cleanup days. They're a certified B Corp. Right now, their PTO thing is like hey, get outside. This is just the messaging of this company.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):So they definitely have the proof in the pudding or no? What's the word I'm looking for.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:It's the things they say in their marketing is what they actually are.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):They're legit, legit, very cool vibes when I go to the HQ. It's so fun Cause it's like everyone's there to help, Like it was a great time. The vibes are good and, yeah, it was great.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I like that as a from a from a company standpoint. You, you know, sometimes it's really difficult to get your product in front of people, especially if it's a consumable.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:In a retail environment you have to fight for shelf space is what they always talk about and um, and so some of these companies, like you know, they run into this brick wall of getting a really cool product out, but they don't do the politics and they don't do the the huge buy-ins and stuff like that and they don't deal with that. And so you guys allow them to get out there, you give them a conduit to get out there and get in front of people so that people can see it. You know, and and we talked about that with outbound.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:We did a an episode with outbound and they were running into the same kind of issue trying trying to get that shelf space and you guys can help with that, and so that's a great, great place to be.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):So yeah, they've done a good job of disseminating lights to like a lot of people now. So it's like I know they got remy some some lights uh, they got. So they got some like higher up people like it's seth from seth bike hacks got some lights eventually like so they definitely like got him in the right hands, because to me it is like one of the best products and best companies. Like I know there's like magic, magic shine and they're out of china or whatever.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Don't say that around, tom, he will get. He gets a twitch, he gets a tick, yeah, he gets. He gets twitching, yeah, you know what?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I told him to do is like we should have gone and like sprinkled a bunch of breadcrumbs on top of their tenants, the otter, and like all the seagulls would have just pooped on everything.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:That would be funny that was hilarious is that, like I did not expect this, I, I and I hadn't used an outbound light, but that is our best performing episode. Is that damn outbound light?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:well, I mean, yeah, yeah, you know's funny Cause we started bringing until now. Yeah, well, I thought it was just just just is doing okay, yeah, and so like, and then yeah.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Wait, we should talk about why we got you on because, like I like, we had a connection with Jess and you know, I so the story.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I think our listeners have heard this, but Joe hasn't heard this. So, like we heard a rumor that Jess was going to move to Tucson and so I just sent her a cold email. I said, hey, we got a little podcast here, we're doing pretty well, but we're really plugged into the Tucson scene. If this is true and you need any help, like just, I don't need anything from you, but if you need something from me, I'm happy to help you. And I just sent it out there and she's like hey, you know, we're kind of figuring out what we're going to do.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):turns out they're not moving to tucson, which is sad for us yeah, that might be kind of my fault I figured it might be, so I'm giving joe the finger on me and sea bass being up here is helpful, but she's got a bunch of friends up here, her, and that's awesome, so it's like norcal's, so good, dude, anyways, continue.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah. So she's like hey, thanks a lot, we're kind of figuring out what we're going to do. We're kind of on Rumspringa or something like that right now. We're just kind of wandering and Tucson's in the trade space. And then about two months later she emailed me. She said hey, we're coming to Tucson. So, I was like awesome, cool, let us know what we can do.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:it'd be great, and then you guys had this thing on saturday, whatever. I think the listeners know the story. Yeah, yep, so we put out. So you guys, I just we had had lunch and I just randomly said, hey, if you guys you didn't don't sound like you got anything going on sunday, come on out, I'll show you some rad trails on the east side of tucson. They're not right, um, they are fucking red they're fun and they're flowy and they're smooth is that not the definition of red?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:no, no.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Well ask, joe, what's the definition I mean it's in his name, I think he knows yeah, I know, just define it for you as long as I'm hanging with good people.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Any trail is gonna be fun. I'm not gonna be worried about I'm not.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:He said my man right here. He said fun what's the difference you didn't say it was rad yeah, I'm just, there is a difference.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Like uh bugs was, rad bugs is right, I'm not going to debate that's what I'm talking about that's fine fair enough bugs is red east coast is yeah, east side's not right I'm just saying don't throw a rat around these guys were like booked up minute by minute by minute and we had a plan with them and they're like, hey, dude, we're wiped, we gotta do some work you know what it was, by the way, like it was, because we did, we're gonna go and then, like cyclopia happened.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):We weren't sure what cyclopia was gonna be. Um, we knew, I knew I wanted to film some stuff there, but it turned in like it was obviously a much bigger thing than we suspected. So it was like we ended up spending a lot of time. A lot of people from the dig day ended up in the beer tent and we were in the beer tent like grabbing a beer and then everybody started filtering in. I was like wait a minute, we know, we all know each other what the hell like so you guys got hammered and couldn't make it out to the east side.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Basically, we had a couple beers and then we were riding up and down though the cyclovia thing, which was super cool and, yeah, by the time we looked at the watch, it's like three or four o'clock or whatever. It was like, oh man, yeah, it was, we were toast. It was like, definitely, and we got interviewed by. There was a local uh production company that the visit tucson or somebody hired for to cover the cyclopia event. Yeah, so we got interviewed by them and the local news broadcast interviewed us also and I'm pissed off because I felt I was watching the news and we weren't on.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:They cut us out of there, right because our answers were better, do they not? No, they, they called me and said should we put? Should we put jess and crk in the video? And I was like they just fucking canceled on me.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):No, you know what it was, and like it was at the very end of the news broadcast, like oh, by the way, there was a bike event, dorks. And then they just like 30 seconds of like that, and I was like you bastards so, so anyways, jess as a consolary prize.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:She's like listen, josh, we can't make it.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:But I'll do this, I'll do one with you remotely, so we set up with jess.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:We did it. We released that episode and joe sends me a dm.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:He's like hey, jackass why didn't I get invite to?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:that, and I'm, like you, invited, jess you invited jess and not me.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I'm like hey I have more followers than her. All right, it's always a competition if you put like either one of us on first. Like I don't think jess is as competitive as I am, but maybe, maybe it's just me. But like, yeah, if I see it, I'm like all right, where? How come I didn't get an invite?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:huh I was. I was saying we, we gotta pressure sea bass now.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, yeah, he'll do it yeah, we gotta get him on. He's always good times. He's like the nicest guy on the planet dude I.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I want to meet that guy because I'll tell you what. I first started watching his videos and like he, he can ride man I just want to learn how to jump.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:That guy can jump so I tell you what us big boys got to stick together, yeah dude, I was in awe the first time.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I followed him down. I don't know if it was north star, it might have been north star. We were riding north star, one of the downhill parks here up in tahoe. Uh, truckie, I guess technically I don't know. Whatever you want to say, anyways, I'm following him down and the first time I see him like whip out the back end on a like I was like whoa, it was like crazy to watch. I was like it was so sick. I was like ah, it was so fun following him down.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Man, it's great he's got good talent man, he really does, yeah, and so I I'd love to brother durge is just like the nicest people on the planet.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):It's just so fun, man.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, it's the whole community, the fact that you guys are all kind of creating this kind of like centralized NorCal like inadvertently, but it is happening yeah. It's. It's it's cool because the collaborations are really. I think they're really nice.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):They kind of feed off each other, it's like we just want to see each other succeed and that's kind of like. I think it's nice. I think it's not just us three, but it's like anybody that's in the content creator business, like when you guys are doing a podcast, like happy to jump on or whatever. It's like I'm not like it's. We're all kind of in the same struggle in the same game. So it's like we all have our different takes on how to make content, whether it's tech focused or educational focused or comedy focused. Yeah, we're all kind of in the same struggle, man Like. So it's like, yeah, there's no point in I don't see it as a struggle, man.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:We just drink whiskey and talk about bikes.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, Honestly, this is what we do at the trail when we're waiting.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah, this is what we do at the shop when we're talking. I mean, this is what I do in my garage.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):We go through rough times I mean when I've got deadline after deadline piled up and I'm behind schedule and I can't think of something or whatever then stress hits and it's like boom. But this was my week that I got it all done and executed and I put it out and I'm like I took a breather today. So I went cruising on the motorcycle for a couple of hours. I was like, okay, I got one more thing. I'm finishing the Tucson YouTube video now and I've been slacking on it because I've been traveling a little bit, but I'm almost done with it. I got to put voiceovers and some graphics and I should have the Tucson video out.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I can't wait.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I was hoping this week, but it'll probably be next week, but it's link to all of Joe's stuff. This video because, Joe, we got to talk about when you want us to release this. We're backlogged. We have, I think, eight recorded videos.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):So, like a recorded podcast, I should be 100, though you know right after.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Jess. Well, we've already committed to Vittoria.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, Vittoria Ken.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Avery and. Vittoria.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Since we don't do video, nobody can see this. But joe just put his hand over the. He just I simulated me leaving this talk to the hand. I I gotta call out.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I'm gonna call out ken real quick because, like most of our listeners, I'm like, hey, I'll send you the raw cut if you want to listen, or most of our guests, if I'll send you the raw cut of the audio. Yeah, if you want me to like, go in. You know I do music production. So if you want me to go in and like mess with it, cut stuff whatever. Ken comes back and says can you cut out all my ums? Oh, God.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):And then I listen to the episode. How about you learn how to talk, Ken?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:There's a lot of ums. Did you do it? I haven't done it yet. That's my task. Tomorrow's my off Friday, right? So I got a four-hour task to go through.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):This is why I should be the next episode, because all you got to do is export and go.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Well, yeah, you're gold.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:You're gold right off the bat we should tell Ken like sorry bro, we had to delay a week. We had a professional on the air, but then we got to delay Park, and then we got to delay SRAM, and then we got to delay everybody.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Dude, I do these live streams by myself for two hours straight and talk to nobody other than me in chat how in hell?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:okay, so I listened to your last one, yeah yeah, and I'm, and I and I told dane, because that was the, I'm unemployed, no, no, I'm doing this full time.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:It was, yeah, it was a couple weeks ago or something, maybe maybe a month ago. Okay, and let's do. His last podcast was like hour and 45 minutes and I listened to it and I thought to myself jesus christ, dane, and I like to talk, yeah, like, oh, my god, like, how do you keep the energy up for that long?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):bro, I like telling stories. I don't know Like the whole reason why I got into this thing was to entertain the pants off of people. So like the only reason I love doing live streams I think the only reason I don't do more is because, like I can't think more than a day in front of my face. Like I should just take a day and do it every day. Like you day that, like you know, but like like every tuesday I'm like the only reason I went to go ride yesterday is because kyle like hit me up. I was in the bay filming the everyman jack stuff and I was down there and he was like, hey, do you want to ride tomorrow? I was like, actually, brilliant, I'm already down towards here, let's go ride a place I haven't ridden in a long time because it's down, like it kind of more like towards the bay area, and then my buddy jay's down there.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I was like it worked yeah but sometimes I need, like almost like, my personal pto officer which is what I'm promoting now is like so I need somebody to call me and be like, hey, let's go outside. Like yeah, I'm coming, but like, sometimes you get caught up in your own thing, right, like you just like lose track of things.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:The cool, the cool thing is like dane always takes us on a ride, like anytime we're gonna do anything, there's a ride involved like today. Yeah, he's like I'm leaving the shop at four. By the way, dan owns a bike shop.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Guru bikes in tucson, arizona.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:But uh, the best shop in tucson, probably the best shop in arizona, in the country, in the country yeah, maybe even the world rule 37, rule 37 yeah, yeah, just amazing shop I love the shop. Um, that's why I picked you to work with oh, yeah, yeah, I mean uh, so so he always integrates a ride. So today he's like hey, so so I'm in this crazy fucking meeting on site all day, suit tie all that crap and you had to get dressed up.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:How do you get dressed up and negotiate and all that crap, and and dane's like, hey, I'm gonna leave the shop at four. We're riding before the podcast and I'm like yes now, we didn't have much time, we had like an hour yeah but there's more than enough, but we got out for an hour.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:And.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Dane fucked his shock up the suspension grew, so I'm testing the Trail Cat. Okay.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, and I got it dropped off by Pivot and I'm testing it and the shock was too low so I'm pedal striking. So I went to air it up and my shock pump sits in my little fanny pack. It must be dry rotted. You know, fanny pack, it must be dry rotted because I've stuck it on, and it just started leaking. It leaked all the air out of the shock.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah. So Dane rode his trail cat home as if it was a firebird. Yeah.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:It's. The head tube was so slacked out, the shocks bottomed out the whole time. Pedal striking. Like I can barely pedal without hitting the ground, so it was rough, but we still got to ride in.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):You know what it is. Maybe this is quotable, maybe there was a quote to be made here somewhere, but it's like removing, removing the wall of decisions, you know, like makes something so much easier. Right, there's a, there's a, there's a way to like really surmise that. But it's like as soon as the decision making process is removed from you, the process becomes much easier. Right, it's like we're going to go ride like OK, let's go.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah Instead of like should we go ride? We're gonna go ride like okay, let's go ride. Yeah, instead of like should we go ride? Well, let me think, like it's right if you can remove the question and just have it a statement, like it's like, all right, here we go can we apply this to our sex lives well yeah, what kind of?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:uh. So I was thinking about every time you, you ask your significant like what do you want for dinner? And you can, you know that's literally telling them, it's telling them to make the decision, and then they're like I don't know what do you want for dinner, and you can you know, that's literally telling them. It's telling them to make the decision, and then they're like I don't know what do you want Screwed, and then that's the challenge they send it right back.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I have a ground rule, yeah.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Anytime I'm asked what my opinion is, I don't say what do you want?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:You don't Never, never, never. Right now, try it on me, think of it on the spot.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I'm not that quick try it on. How about uh beef wellington? Like we're not gonna do that okay well, why did you?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:ask me no, I don't say how about we're doing beef wellington? I'm making beef wellington if you want to eat it, cool if you're not 14 hours jesus hey, what a dumb.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):What a dumb food, by the way, like. Why don't you just eat a steak and then eat some bread on the side? Why are you gonna spend 18 extra hours wrapping it and all this stuff? It's dumb.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Should we bring Ronnie from DVO on the podcast real quick?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I don't think the audio will be good. I could get him on. He wants to get a bike, so I got to test ride that Amflo. Have you seen that thing?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:No, I don't know what that is. That's a DJI DJI. The.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):DJI powered e-bike.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah one kind of does the shifting for you? No, that's the tram one, that's the tram one, this one, this one's.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):The whole world's talking about it and it's uh got the most power. I told you this guy, except for me, apparently he is not into bike tech.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:You know, I was listening to him and he was talking about e-bikes and he said he didn't like the lightweight ones. And I'm like, ah, he's got a lightweight one. So like he's saying that he doesn't like the lightweight ones, but he doesn't even know that he has a lightweight one, the shuttle am shuttle, shuttle am is 47 pounds. It's one of the lightest, most powerful bikes on the market.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):It's got a big, it's got a 650, so you don't like no low power 250 so.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So here's what it was, and and this is gonna, it's gonna come around. You're gonna get what I'm getting out here but, he goes. Well, you know, I like this one, I didn't like that lightweight one that I rode. Guess what he rode?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):specialized levo yes, that's how yeah I go dave hates specialized, I don't hate no, but I also rode the forest, all which there was a how was that I got? It, the battery life was pointless. So that whole miles.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So I think I think the one you rode because, uh, I think you were doing worldwide for a while, right, yeah, um, I think the one you rode had a brose motor, or brose motor, which is the same as a specialized, so yeah, I don't know.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I just remember that I was going out for an e-bike ride. I'm like this is gonna be sick, I can get tons of laps. And I got to the top of the hill and I was at 50% already. I was like, well, I could just do one downhill and go back home Like were riding one of the most agile poppy fun e-bikes made. Like if it's, if it's so lightweight when I throw my back out every time I lift it into the truck, huh well, josh has a rocky mountain it's like 60 pounds yeah so heavy
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:now granted, it's a monster truck, he'll run over whatever he wants.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:But I'm also big, so it's extra large aluminum. It's got heavy components on it, yeah, and it's got a ton of power.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:But that pivot is, even though it's it's heavier than my other pivot, my sl that that pivot is so light.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Speaking of pivot in your video when you went to the pivot head course, yeah, you said. You said you weren't sure, but you said you're the first person to see their, their prototype yeah, we have to call bullshit on that? No, no, 100 wasn't no I was like we released an audio of podcasts yeah, a year ago this is why.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):This is why, like sometimes I need someone like kyle there, because like taylor, because he'll tyler in line.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Tyler didn't like he won't call me on it like, but if I've got kyle or somebody there who I work with regularly, like they'll be like shut up you know, I mean I'm waiting for the comedic timing to hit and like sometimes, like I'm like he's like the andy richter to my conan o'brien right, like jess will do this too to me occasionally. But it's like they know I'm saying something ridiculous so they'll call me on it and that's part of the joke. Like it's got. But nobody called me on that one. So I was like, okay, I'm just gonna write it off, you know I need somebody to tell me to shut up. Did you get to ride with tyler? Oh yeah, you did.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah, that's right, it was in the video, I think yep, I was carrying a 30 pound camera bag the whole time, so I didn't really get a full sense of the bike and he's gonna say that on the national trail he was also carrying the 30 pound camera it was yeah, the whole down that pack on.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):That's no shit yeah, like climbing. Well, we usually do mormon, you know not, and down national, but uh, but, yeah, phoenix is no joke, so that, no, I would say arizona as a whole. I'd always describe it as almost like uphill, both ways yes, sounds like a bad thing, but it's not. It's challenging climbs that are rewarding. Because you're like dude I, I cleared that section. Like you're talking about climbs now, right, like think of highline and sedona, like that climb up there.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):There's several sections where you're like dude, I cleared it, you know. And so like I think nationals like that, I think there's some tucson stuff like that where it's just there's no smooth surface. It's like and that's a good thing like I also really enjoy that and that's one of the reasons why we're good at mountain biking. Like if you put a road biker on there, they would die like, and they're, you know, they wouldn't do 100 miles out there right it's like just a different style of riding.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I was watching your video about fruta when you were going back to colorado oh yeah and uh, your fruta section and I was like man, I really got to get there. You know, that's one of the places I haven't been.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):It looked amazing yeah, there's some great stuff out there. I would say the call like that trip was exceptional and I always talk about this one. It's funny because it was very early on in the channel. I had sub 1000 subscribers on youtube when I went to that trip, so it must have been like I might have had like 400 subscribers when I made that trip. Yeah, and that was. I called it the california kids grand return to colorado like I was already bombastic I was already like you know what I'm saying?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:fake it till you. Make it, bro, yeah and it was crazy.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):So I I road tripped from where I was at, stopped in reno, rode in rito, rode in ely nevada, then I ended up uh, yeah, I ended up in grand junction where I reached out to crash and gad, yes, and a bunch of these guys and rode salida road.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Uh, buena vista was the one that looked really good. It looked like dude. That was a gem.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I didn't, I didn't even, I never even thought of it or heard of it, but I I stayed there and I was like, oh, there's trails here and I had an absolute blast. And I know they probably built more since I left those years and years and years ago. But yeah, and then, of course, we did the big Crested Butte trip, which is the first time running Crested Butte out there and it was exceptional in almost every way, like it's one of my favorite places to ride. So when we got a chance there's an agency that represents visit Crested Butte and they reached out I was like hell yeah, like I was like I would love to show people how rad this place is, cause it's, it is truly exceptional. The scenery, the writing, it's, it's amazing.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So, so a lot. That's. That was where YouTube, so that's what do you call that?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Long form Is that right? And I don't even think I shot anything in Crested Butte for YouTube like ever. Like I, when I did this trip, the Crested Butte trip we took with Chasing Epic was BKXC Brian yeah, it was his trip so I wasn't really recording on that trip, I don't think. And then I maybe did a Hartman Rocks video at the very end, but like that's outside of Crested Butte, still really fun. But then, like when I went this time, when I was riding with kyle and them, I think I just did shorts and stuff. I don't think I actually made a youtube video out of that.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So that's like that's what I was going to ask the long form versus short form, uh is there one that you feel like is just better or like is there?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:short form got him famous, but long form makes him money, is that?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):no, I mean like like you definitely generate more revenue off a long form. Short form we don't really make much off of um, but like, short form is just a different beast because you don't need to worry about a thumbnail and a title. Really, you don't really like. As long as the concept's good and shareable, it will. It will disseminate like um, whereas like long form you, if you don't have a good thumbnail and title, then no one will click on it in the first place and no one will ever see it, despite how good it is. So it's like there's a there's a bigger barrier to entry to long form, especially if you've done 30 hours editing this video or something and you know you think you've got a good concept. If you can't nail a thumbnail and title like that video, it just won't be seen because you have that's what people see on YouTube. It's like that's still the judging factor.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:It's it's definitely tricky yeah, yes, I'm trying to figure it out. So I I had told uh, jess this, and I've said this on the program a few times that I'm kind of deep diving on youtube lately.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I was a non-youtuber for so we should probably just orient crk here at the fact that dane is really old, I mean like he's still like in the facebook rules.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:He says that all the time I'm 29 years old. Um, if, how about the gray in the beard? Yeah, I do that on purpose, so that people take me serious, a youthful 29.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, gray beard.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Because if I didn't have gray, they would just disregard me.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, you're a gray beard. I'd be like a millennial or something, yeah.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:But yeah, so my deep dive in YouTube lately is just figuring, figuring out a search stuff if I want to work on my trailer, you know I search it.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:If I want to watch you, I can easily find you if I want. Uh, lately I've been wanting to find out about particular product, like we're bringing new products in the store or something, and so it's definitely in the title, because I'm searching it by the title and then I mean, I think, if I'm correct, I think youtube is one of the biggest search engines essentially now, like because people like what you're doing, like they go into YouTube and search for it.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Uh, and the TikToks like that as well. They're like major search engines as well. We don't think of it that way, but it's like a lot of people just go search for stuff in these platforms now, and so it's definitely different. I spend more time watching YouTube than anything else, and whether it's like I found myself going down weird rabbit holes of educational stuff. Recently I watched this 40 to a full hour long video of the Black Plague and explained how and why I was like I don't know why, but I needed to know.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):No it's true.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:You just get into something.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I don't know how it even gets in front of you, but then you're like oh, that's interesting.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):But at least when I watch that stuff too, I come out of it and I feel like I just learned something I. That was a, that was a well worth one hour, whereas, like sometimes you don't always get that. And so I think this is part of the reasons why I got into adventure motorcycle stuff too is because I found out like brian sent me this video about the northern california bdr, which is a backcountry discovery route and essentially it's like a. It's kind of like imba. You know. Imba like is advocates for mountain bike trails and stuff these guys advocate for like backcountry motorcycle trails.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):So it's like in northern california it goes from mammoth all the way to the oregon border and it's like a eight, eight day trip, wow, and each stage is like kind of predefined, it's all mapped out, so as long as you stick to the route, you can end up in a new town each day.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):You can either camp or you can stay. But it's like this beautiful way to see these states, like idaho has one, colorado has one, and you can go from really the mexican border in southern california all the way, uh, to canada, basically all through these bdrs and it's you could do it on an adventure motorcycle or whatever, and like I really caught my eye of a great way to explore our world. You know, and like all the little back countries and little towns and I've already gone on a couple rides with it that we discover these cities and towns that I didn't even know existed here and I've lived here for all forever. So it's like it's really fun and like it's just another way to explore. You know, kind of like bike packing but you don't have to pedal, which is great yes, all right, joe, I gotta take us down.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Serious again. Oh shit, I'm sorry. Oh god, it's what I do what is it?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:is somebody dying?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:no, I'm gonna kind of cherry pick this is when he gives us the fart joke this.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, there's no fart joke here. I promise, I promise I promise.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:So I have a hypothesis which is like what strategies do? We have hypothesis and then we go to prove them. Sure I'm gonna try to prove my hypothesis. Okay, I think you are a really heavy marijuana user. Oh, and the reason why? Okay, I think that, and you?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):could see. You should see his face.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:It's legal because I heard you say that you would give up suspension before you would give up a dropper post and I need you to explain that rationale what you're saying is saying that he's got to be high.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:He's got to be high.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:He's saying I'd rather have a dropper post than suspension on my bike I don't know, man, please explain that rationale and then and defend yourself yes wow, I mean, is that like a white?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:glove, did you just slap him? I did like virtual, okay, so?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):if you're riding a flow trail at a bike park, you don't need suspension, all right, uh, you'd rather have a dropper right. If you're riding through chundery stuff, all right, which is fine. That bike's gonna be lively as hell without suspension. But man, that dropper just comes in. So clutch man I. I love that dropper post so much.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Now, I haven't ridden, I am not convinced I feel like, well, so, like at the veil, like out here, you know the trail that you tried to call rad. It is rad, it's not rad. Um, you don't need a dropper out there, you really don't I would.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I used to ring that.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I used to ride that trail on a single speed rigid bike and I loved it with a dropper post okay, just tell me right now, but you just proved what he said I know how much fun would you have downhill with your seat all the way up well, this guy, the old school downhiller, who rides twice as fast as me, only drops his seat this much and very rarely stands up.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I mean I race downhill bikes when there weren't droppers.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:And you're still racing downhill bikes, as if there weren't droppers.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I mean, my downhill bike doesn't have a dropper. But downhill bikes don't.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):But anytime you ride a trail, whether it's downhill or xc or whatever, and you got like a downhill section, then you go back up in a pedally up section, you go back down. Like every time you're miserable on one side of that. Like can you imagine that ride versus? Just like? I don't think. I think that's more advantageous than suspension to me.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Like I feel like you wouldn't be on that trail if you didn't have suspension listen, here's the deal.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:You.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:You have not convinced us, joe and it's a challenge and you have not even a.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:You have not, you've. You've totally glossed over the marijuana aspect of this, definitely not a pothead like this.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Uh, I like whiskey, but uh, you know, yeah, it's I thought everybody in california was a pothead no. So the funny thing is I was living in colorado when they made it legal legal in Colorado is the first state to do it, so that was like I still at that point I don't really smoke or anything so I was like they made it legal. I think we went and waited in line at a dispensary just because it was like historic, it felt historic or something, but like a thing to do it was just never.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I've never really been into it that much like I like a good whiskey or beer or something, but like nowadays they've got like edibles and stuff like I remember an old story about like weed is like our buddy gave us these edibles and, like you know, they made them homemade right, so you don't know what's in and how much is in it whatever.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Like I had, no, it could be a wild ride yeah and I remember specifically, they gave us these cookies and you're like, all right, well, let's like we'll each eat. They said don't eat more than a half, like are you gonna die? I was like, all right, cool, so we like eat a half. And then we're like let's watch a funny movie and like an hour into the movie we're like nothing's happened, like let's just eat the other half you know, so that move that's how it all went wrong. Yeah, we're just like oh my god, just the next morning.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:We're like where am I? I?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):remember like when the credits rolled, the wife and I kind of looked at each other like we screwed up, like Like we were, we've done, we've gone wrong here, Like this is like we're just.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I don't know if I told the story in front of us on the show, but I have a jaw issue and so I'm in pain a lot, and so I usually use something to help me sleep A lot of time.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):It's a sleep.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Why do you got to go there?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I'm sorry, help it.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Well, I thought you were the one that says I know, I know we had to clean it up for this episode so, anyway, he's the one who said I have to clean it up, I have to clean it up and I have failed. It's true, yeah, you did fail, mission failed. Uh, so we're at the 24 and one of the the guys gives me. He goes you know, I got some edibles, you want to try a brownie? And I'm like, well, yeah, I mean if it'll help me sleep because I was worried about my lap. My lap was at like nine o'clock at night and then it was like in the nine in the morning, you know, or whatever. Yeah, I'm like I just don't want to be trashed. I'm sleeping in the back of my van, you know. And so, uh, he gives me this brownie. You know, I eat the whole thing and uh, yeah, like damn this is tasty, nobody could find me like uh yeah, I miss both my laps.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I don't really remember what time I got up, but yeah, I was out, like I remember, trying to pump up my air mattress in the back of the van and it took me probably 10 to 20 minutes to read the packaging on the air pump that you just flip a switch on, like I'm trying to figure out how to pump, like it's you know what I'm talking about air mattress.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Yeah, I know, I'm living vicariously free through you buddy yeah, you buddy, I haven't had marijuana in my system since 1996., I couldn't figure out an air mattress pump, how to turn it on, and I just slept on top of an empty air mattress. It was bad. Don't eat the whole brownie, that's for sure.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:So good, all right. So your mustache is part of your vibe, it's part of your vibe, it's part of your brand. At this point and I went back and looked at some of your previous you had a beard at one time and you looked way different. So here's my like really serious question Does your wife dig the mustache?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):She never really complained, like I don't know. Like it's on brand now it's been here for so many years. I can see the beard coming back at some point. I feel like people would be like regular people on the street would approach me more. Like I definitely look like I can't walk near schools with this thing. So like if I was to like bring the beard back, I'd definitely like be less weird in public with this thing. Like it's pretty preposterous, like um, but people don't realize it's part of the joke, you know like, but it's yeah, it's gorgeous.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I got a merchandise idea for you and I honestly think this is good. I want to. I'm picturing a t-shirt any color, and it's got a set of aviators right the silhouette of an aviator and the mustache, and that's it.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):And then underneath it says baby, baby, baby, oh yeah that's classic, right, it might actually be a ted lasso shirt it's like we're really borderline close to each other.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:That's pretty close, yeah you might pretty close.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah, you might be the same person. We're not 100% sure. Yeah, he doesn't have the aviators.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I tried to work on my Ted Lasso impersonation because I was doing a few videos as Ted Lasso, yeah, and it's really like Southern positivity. It's like I think you're doing great, you know you're doing all right, you know it's so good. It's like it's kind of like you know All right, all right, let's test.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Let's test this. Then you got to give a motivational speech and everything. Let's test this theory. Okay, let's test your Ted Lasso impersonation.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Oh, it's not that good. No, no, no.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:So in the character of Ted Lasso.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Answer the next, this and that questions.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Okay, go watch an episode or something. I haven't seen it in years. I'm like I'm going to be real rusty. It's just me applying a southern accent and positivity Southern accent positivity Riding in Cali or riding in Rado. As Ted Lasso. Yeah, you got to pick one and tell me why.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:He's getting into ECU. He even looks like him.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I got to say I think riding in Colorado is going to be the play.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Short form or long form. Short form Mustache waxed or unwaxed.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Unwaxed. That's way too much work. Can you believe it? That's way too much work.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:All right Related and maybe better bikini, waxed or unwaxed.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):All right, related and maybe better Bikini, waxed or unwaxed. Wait for who? Me? Yeah, I didn't specify.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Unkempt, unkempt Unwaxed. I mean, is it trimmed?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):He's a 1970s guy. It's just the same thing here. I mean, what are we talking about? Look, the bottom line is think, uh, if we were to say positivity and southern accent, we're getting pretty close now and I think that when you've got just the wax, it just shows you put way too much thought into it, way too much work.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):It's not spontaneous yeah, yeah he doesn't mind getting hair in his teeth, basically it's like it's like the beard, like anybody that comes in with a really eccentrically trimmed beard and mustache. I'm like you spend a lot of time. You obviously like care about your looks. Yeah, whereas like I didn't comb my hair for this, like I didn't like my mustache is like to me, I'm I'm happy in the mountains like I. I like I'll go up to everstoke and I'll be up there for days and maybe even a week, and I'll realize I haven't looked in a mirror in a week, like you know, and you're like you come back and you're like you come back home. You're like what the fuck you know? Like you're just like but that's it, like that's what I realized. That's where I live now. That's what kind of my mentality anymore.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I know you like to. I know you like to smoke meat.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Go ahead, smoke meat, meat, smoke, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, this is a long discussion and I'll do this in my voice, cause like brisket is truly exceptional, but it's also a very large time commitment. I mean, we're we're 15 hours for the smoke itself, with the rest time. You're looking at 18 hours.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):If you're doing this right. Wow, ribs are like, hey, come over, I'll go get some ribs right now and just come over for dinner and I'll have them ready. Like you could be spontaneous with ribs, you cannot do that with brisket, you've got. You've got to just really wake up early, get it rolling and you're feeding the fire all day long, cause I, you know, I think I told you I have an offset smoker. So thing weighs a thousand pounds. I get oak sourced locally so I chop it all up myself and then I'd feed a fire for 15 hours. You know, I'm keeping that thing going and making sure that it stays lit properly so you get good, clean smoke through this thing. So I love brisket and I love to have people come over eat brisket, but it's definitely like I do it less than I do ribs but, that doesn't mean I like it less, like my option ribs.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Ribs for your wife, brisket for your girlfriend. No, no, ribs for your wife Brisket for your girlfriend. No, no, ribs for your mistress, brisket for your wife. But you know what?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Here's the thing Like when people come over like and I do a big barbecue, like, mind you, a big barbecue and I do that, it's probably two briskets, it's probably two pork butts and it's probably like six racks of ribs.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:So it's a lot so it's a lot damn. I need to go to you.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Got a lot of friends, bro, yeah yeah, so we bring, we bring everybody over, and then we usually send people home with leftovers, you know like, because it's like, hey, let's party, let's hang, let's hang out and then eat a lot of food, and then I don't, I cook so much on that thing. What do I need? Like, I'll usually vacuum, seal some and keep it in the freezer. Like I got a tri-tip and some pulled pork in there right now that's just already been smoked and cooked and ready to go. Oh nice, it's a good meal prep, right. But like anytime I like it's the thing's massive.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):So if you're gonna, if you're gonna, tend to that fire, why not fill the whole thing up? Yeah, right, why waste it? And you can, and pork butt's cheap and ribs are cheap, you know. So everything you put in there is cheap and it comes out incredible. So you might as well just load it up and just like, have leftovers either for us or for other people. You need a smoker sponsor. Yeah, lone star grills out of texas, where I bought this one, but like I don't put it in my content, so it wouldn't really do them any advantage I don't know, but I'm I'm ready to go get some ribs.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:We had brisket. Yeah, we had brisket ribs for dinner. Yeah, we did all right.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Uh, this one might be a stretch, okay. Somehow, somewhere I heard that you were into like retro 80s movies and I could be way off on that, because your face tells me you're wrong no, no, I mean I like all movies.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):So I mean I do definitely like like 80s movies.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:So one of these I'm fairly confident, you're gonna know the other one. I'm curious, okay rad. Yeah, we're gleaming the cube. Oh, gleaming the cube.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Oh, gleaming the Cube. Yes, I'm so happy.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I'm so happy.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I haven't seen it in a long time but I know both those movies. Yes, gleaming the Cube definitely.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:All right, final, this or that, shammy or Commando, I don't wear Shammy, I never wear Shammy. Well, that's not what I asked.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I said Shammy or Commando. Oh, I guess I go commando, then I have a taint of steel. I don't know how you guys do that man. Yeah, taint of steel.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:You know, you just like every night a little sandpaper, little sandpaper, finish it off with a grapefruit, and then you're you'll it'll be strong in a week.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Yeah Well, Joe, we absolutely love your content it makes us laugh.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:It brings brevity to our sport. I love comedy. You do a great job. You know there's haters, there's lovers, whatever.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:But like thank you, I just want to say a couple of things and ask you a question of your videos, make it, yeah, except for that one, except for that one, yeah, you know, as, as as a fan and for our audience, that is, you know, a good, good percentage of our audience. I'm sure fans, um, is there anything that we and this is a question that we did ask Jess, jess, so I'm going to break my, my rule, okay.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Is there anything we can do as your audience to help you. Like, what can we do? What can we do to help you?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, First of all, I mean the whole podcast could have just been you complimenting me and I'm a little sad that it wasn't, but we got through it.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:We got to leave you wanting, so you come back, right, that's, that's what it is.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:we're just gonna let you know that we're gonna yeah, next, next time it's gonna be like you because we're bigger than you, and you're gonna be like hey, can I come on the podcast?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):yeah, exactly 100. I'll be there and you'll be like, no, not unless you pay us and bring and bring brisket. I know, I know no honestly, like man, there's nothing, any but like just supporting and like liking and commenting on videos is honestly the biggest thing. Like if I could, if I put out a video and like there's not a lot of comments within the first hour or two, I know it's probably not going to do great and like my moral, you know, flop for the day. It's like ah, damn you know, I didn't.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):This one didn't work out. Let's go to the next one. Like, so you can already tell. You can gauge it really easily. But when people engage with it and relate to it and share it and stuff, that's such a valuable thing, like I don't know if people realize how much that matters. Like, and this is why I try to respond to most comments in videos and DMs. Like, if you were to look at my Instagram thing, probably thousands of people at this point. But like, yeah, somebody sends me a message and I try to respond. So I've always been good about that and I don't really have any way like to directly support me. Like I work with n plus one bikes. They're an incredible bike shop. Sorry, uh, but that's okay people want to buy.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):You know, if they go through there and they just tell them that I sent them like, that helps them and that helps me, that a portion of that will go to me, which is nice, um, but I don't really have any merch other than my gloves, which have been on the market for a while. They've been selling really well.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:I just don't promote them much anymore but um, and your xl gloves are sold out because I tried to buy a pair today, yep yep, so so get some more, get some more xl gloves in for me, buddy yeah, I thought that was like when we originally did that with trail mono.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):It's like I was like, oh, that's gonna be like a limited run of things makes it more exclusive. Because I told, like I made I'm sure everybody knew it was a limited edition and he just kept making them because we kept selling out of them. So I was like that was good for both sides. It was like it worked out great, it's been working out great. But yeah, no, that's the biggest thing. Like I don't really ask much of people other than just like dude, I'm just stoked when people enjoy it and so it's.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I selfishly do this for myself. I like making the stuff and if I have a funny idea that I think is funny, I have fun putting it together and then, like putting it out to the world is the after effect to me, and I think that's one of the reasons why I'm still around and why Jess is still around and stuff is because the process still is enjoyable to me and I like executing a funny idea in a great way is like I take joy of that and I put it together. I'm like nice and like, and then I put it out. I'm like, hopefully people like this you know, and like the, the wild West, one's a great example of that, Like it is really ridiculous.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Like you know, mountain bike track standoff and all this stuff like it's ridiculous, but it was so fun to put together and edit and all that stuff that when I put it out it's like man, hopefully it does well, but if not, I'm just. It was. It was a great experience. I love it. To me it is a hundred percent worth the effort. It was great.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Well, brother, thanks for spending an hour with us here a little bit more than an hour and if there's anything we can do for you in southern Arizona at all, please let us know. We're definitely glad to help you out. Yeah, you got to shuttle any time you come, you got to shuttle any time you come, we'll take you down to the Grand Rope. Yeah, I got to make it back out.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):I'd love to ride more lemon, because there's definitely some stuff we missed because the snow and all that stuff and the weird weather. But yeah, if we can get back out there and do that and then maybe this graham cracker thing or whatever you're talking about, yeah, graham cracker, and then look up Red Ridge, red Ridge.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:OK, that's.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Mount Lemon. That's backside all the way out.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):And it's. If I can get back out there and just have them give us access to old Tucson again, I would shoot another series of videos out, like I'll just come back, just for that I'll tell you.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:I tell you what you know. I mean always hit up, visit tucson. They're amazing and yeah, they've been great yeah you know they, that's what they do and they've done a great job. We've seen a lot of people that they bring into town and just let people know how awesome tucson is.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Yeah, man they were.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):They were exceptional to deal with through and through like tremendous experience, great place to visit, obviously, and ride and uh, the food scene was obviously really good and, yeah, everybody that was involved with visit tucson lee and dave and all those guys were tremendous and yeah it was.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):It was great like we you talked about with jess like us getting to go out there and do the dig day instead of a ride, where she told you we were originally gonna do a group ride, yeah, and we found out that it was a dig day instead and we're like, all right, let's just do that. It's a better way to like get involved with the community and it worked out great and the turnout turned great. So it was like, yeah, that was a fun way just to hang out with everybody and that's kind of what we wanted anyway. So I think, like that we're almost going to kind of like work that into our scheme of like when we pitch places like hey, is there a way that we can do something to help give back to the bike community while we're in town and stuff, and so maybe that's like part of it, part of our trips when we do these witness you doing a little bit of work.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Actually big day I do watch all the footage on my youtube. You're gonna see how many things I cut he's done a ton jess is the one screwing off the whole time, oh yeah jtm.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:They had him on the news in sacramento about uh building a new uh trail and yeah, with unprofessional kyle is that right?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):yep, yep, I'm pro kyle was there. Yep, yeah, it was awesome really cool.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:It was crazy how the dirt was red, like the drone shots were great, cause it was all this green grass and then, they would cut into the soil and it'd be red. It was pretty awesome.
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Oh, that's interesting. Hey, man, you got any final thoughts for our listeners? Anything you want to throw out there? Any, any words of wisdom?
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):nuggets of man. I I mean like, at the end of the day, is like I wish people would stop worrying so much about what they think people think of them and the little things in life and stressing out over little things. It's like, man, life is good, just, uh, just take a step back and realize, like you know it's it's not, that things aren't that bad, like things aren't that hard. It's like get outdoors, go ride your bike. Yeah, you'll clear your mind, you'll feel better. And uh, yeah, so there's that, yeah, anyways.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Well, there you go, that's zen master words to live by zen master, yeah but I mean, like I guess I try to explain this to my kids like if somebody's like this is like a generalization nobody's ever told my kids this. But it's like if some kid at school is telling you like, oh, you got big ears, like why would you get all worked up about that? Like, do you have big ears? Big ears, no, then what are you worked up about? Like you just like why people worry about these things that happen, the things say are happening in their life, and it's like, yeah, it's not a big deal though. Like just don't. Like, don't worry about it, just keep moving forward.
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:Just go ride your bike.
Calirado Kid (aka CRK):Go ride. Thanks a lot, brother. Yeah, can you dig it?
Josh "Magellan" Anderson:Can you dig it, can you dig?
Dane "Suspension Guru" Higgins:it. Can you dig it?
