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Jocelyn Enriquez: Filipino Music Pioneer Returns

Chris Lomboy Season 4 Episode 71

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Thirty years after breaking barriers as one of the first Filipino-Americans to chart on Billboard, freestyle music icon Jocelyn Enriquez sits down for an intimate conversation about her remarkable journey through the music industry and beyond.

The conversation begins with nostalgic reflections on how her music impacted a generation of fans, particularly in the Filipino-American community where representation was scarce in the 90s mainstream music scene. With warmth and humor, Jocelyn shares the story of her transition from Bay Area beginnings to San Antonio, Texas—a decision made when she thought she was leaving music behind to focus on raising her family. "We wanted to have four kids and it was like, at that time I wasn't singing, so it was like, okay, we need a slower pace," she explains, describing her "quiet exit" from the industry.

What follows is a fascinating glimpse into how life circumstances led her back to performing nearly a decade later. After a local TV station tracked her down for a "where are they now" feature around 2015, Jocelyn found herself reluctantly stepping back into the spotlight—only to discover a whole new generation of fans alongside those who had treasured her music for decades. Today, she performs alongside fellow freestyle legends in venues across the world, approaching her craft with renewed purpose: "I love what I do now because it's not about me, it's about how the music can impact people."

The conversation delves into the technological revolution that transformed the music industry during her hiatus—from analog recording techniques to digital production and social media promotion—while touching on meaningful personal topics like parenting philosophy, Filipino cultural traditions, and her dream of eventually retiring to the Philippines with her husband to pursue ministry work. Exciting news about upcoming projects rounds out the episode, including a live album, re-releases of her early work, and previously unreleased tracks that fans have been waiting years to hear.

Whether you grew up breaking dance to "Do You Miss Me" or you're discovering Jocelyn Enriquez for the first time, this heartfelt conversation offers both nostalgia and inspiration from an artist who continues to bridge generations through music. Follow Jocelyn on all social platforms and streaming services to stay connected with her ongoing musical journey.

• Growing up in the Bay Area before transitioning to San Diego and eventually settling in San Antonio, Texas
• Finding balance between motherhood and music, including her decision to step back from performing when her children were young
• The unexpected return to music in 2015-2016 after a local TV station featured her in a "where are they now" segment
• Performing with freestyle legends like Cynthia, Johnny O, Lisa Lisa, and Stevie B in concerts around the world
• The significant technological changes in the music industry from analog recording to digital production and social media
• Pride in her Filipino-American heritage and being one of the first Filipino-Americans to chart on Billboard
• Balancing music with her involvement in church ministry alongside her husband
• Upcoming projects including a live album, re-releases of her early work, and previously unreleased singles
• Dreams of eventually retiring to Batangas in the Philippines to continue ministry work
• Reflections on parenting four children while maintaining her musical legacy

Find Jocelyn Enriquez on all streaming platforms, YouTube, Instagram, and Facebook as Jocelyn Enriquez Official.

Speaker 1:

hey, five, four, three, two, one. Welcome back to another episode of the relationship method podcast. I'm chris. Today I have a very special guest on the pod. Um, I grew up listening to her. I grew up to listen to her music. Man, she filipino too, just like me. Man, I'm not even going to get into the nigger because we will be getting into it. Y'all give a hand for Miss Jocelyn Enriquez. Yay.

Speaker 2:

Hi Chris hey everybody.

Speaker 1:

Hi man, I'm Jocelyn. Thank you, oh, I'm Jocelyn. Thank you, oh, aunt Joc. And okay, so, ms Jocelyn, before we get into it, how did I get the yes from you?

Speaker 2:

Well, I actually have weekly meetings with my team and so we, you know, we talk about the events that are going on and and an opportunity to do podcasts. And I love that, because back in the day, you know, we didn't have podcasts, we'd have to go to the actual interview or make radio phone calls. And so I love Hawaii and I know that that's where you're from, that's where you are. I love, um, I actually have relatives in Eva Beach, near where Kapolei is, and so it's like it's a win-win situation, I mean if only.

Speaker 2:

I could just do the interview, like in person. You know that would be like the next best thing, but I'm in, I'm in, I'm in um, san Antonio, texas, and you know it's like this is a great opportunity. And what I love about like just doing all of these interviews, you know, regarding my music from 30 years ago, is we get to talk about how it has impacted people's lives, you know, and so I'm very excited and curious to see how this is all going to turn out. And hello to all the listeners and, uh, thank you, chris, for having me oh my god, oh, stop, stop it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, uh, man. No, it's a. It's a great privilege on having you on because, uh, like you said, you're making music like way back in there, and I grew up listening to your music. Uh, there's like a point in my life where I used to break dance to your music, you know, because it was like listening to freestyle was like the thing to break to, you know. So, man, it is my pleasure to have you on you're so sweet, thank you.

Speaker 2:

Now the question is are do you still break?

Speaker 1:

Oh no, my body can't take it no more. I'm in my 40s now. So it's like no way Like I've seen how it transitioned from power moves to style now. And when I was breaking, it was all power moves right was breaking, it was all power moves right. So when I tried getting back into it, the stop, I was like, oh no, like I, I needed days to recover from the moves that I'm trying to execute. So I was like, uh, you know what?

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna leave yeah, I'm gonna leave it to the young bucks to to carry the torch on, you know for real.

Speaker 2:

I, I feel you, I definitely feel you on that yeah, heck heck. Yeah, I didn't say I did any breaking, but you know the dancing is. You know. You perform 30 years later to your songs in the same choreography and your body's like mad at you for days right, oh, I know right, you get that tiger bone ready.

Speaker 2:

So the preparation before a show was very different from how it was 30 years ago. But you know, it's really, it's all good because you know when I get to perform and I hope that one day, sooner than later, I can perform in Hawaii, because I remember doing shows at Waikiki Beach, and which park was it? Is it Kapalani Park?

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah I might even be pronouncing it wrong, but, man, I remember doing shows over there in hawaii and it was just such a good time and you know it's neat because people didn't know that I was filipino how's that like um, I guess because I guess it's because you know we didn't have Social media back then and so until you actually came out To my shows, or it was through word of mouth. Because when you Think Jocelyn Enriquez, you know that is my maiden name, but a lot of Filipinos have Hispanic last names. This is true.

Speaker 2:

So they didn't connect the dots. And especially coming from the bay, from the bay area, this is true or Asian markets, and they would come out to my shows and sometimes, I kid you not, there was a few shows that I had done with a bunch of other acts and you know they would ask me to be towards the end of the lineup just because of the fan base that came out, and so that was just really, really neat and those are just sweet memories that I get to cherish and now kind of just share with um, with people.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, oh, um, you just, you just mentioned that you're originally from, uh, san francisco or the bay area, correct? Yes, yes, okay, uh, okay, so, um, what was, what was? Because, uh, I spent a lot of time in, you know, the 408, 415 area, you know, growing up, you know. And so, when did you make that move from first? When did you make the move from San Francisco to Texas?

Speaker 2:

if you don't mind me asking, Okay, so okay, I'll, just because you know this is a long story so I need to condense it. So I grew up in the Bay Area Elementary school, high school, pretty much the beginning of my career and then I got married to a wonderful man from San Diego and before we actually recorded, I told you who he was. He's one of the guys from Simple. Oh my God, girl, I was there when they recorded it, but anyways. So we got married, lived in San Diego for about five years.

Speaker 2:

And then, 20 years ago, we made the move to move to San Antonio, texas, because at that time I had actually thought I was done with my music. So so, yeah, so fast forward. Later we moved out here in 2005, 2015, 16 was probably when kind of I don't know, it's, it's, it's a story for sure. But I went in kicking and screaming into the music scene, but my husband was very supportive and he was all he was for it and it was almost like, uh, how could you not like, how could you not do music again if there are people that still you know, looking for you? And it was from a local TV station, they were doing a story on you know where are you now, and so they found me.

Speaker 2:

word got around that you could find me tucked away in San Antonio, texas, and so I did that interview and I was like, okay, well, this is, this is just a one-time thing, and it wasn't. And soon after that I mean I'm doing performing again, I'm doing all these wonderful interviews, really just celebrating that part of music, one as a Filipino-American, but just also the legacy. The legacy artist, I mean freestyle music again is now, you know, getting its like second or third wind, if you will.

Speaker 1:

You know there's a large freestyle community.

Speaker 2:

And so yeah, that's pretty much in the nutshell. I mean, it was a progression. Moving from the Bay Area to San Antonio, texas, it's definitely a different lifestyle. But, like I said, my husband and I we wanted to have four kids and it was like at that time I wasn't singing, so it was like, okay, we need a slower pace, like we thought it was the best thing to do for the two kids that we had at that time. One was five, the other one was 11 months old and then, while we lived here in San Antonio, we had two more kids and so we have a total of four plus my daughter-in-law and a granddaughter.

Speaker 1:

Oh my god, jocelyn Enriquez has her hands full y'all. A lot oh.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying that, nope, not saying that. I'm going to get canceled by Ms Jocelyn Enriquez if I say that. Stuff, man, you said you moved. Okay, so you said you moved from San Diego to Texas. Did you guys drive or did you guys fly to your new home and with that, with all your things moving, because I'm very accustomed to moving too because of the military right. When they moved your stuff, were you with them or did you hire someone and was your things? Did you have any damaged things that you collected via insurance and everything?

Speaker 2:

you're so funny. These actually no. Um. Well, what happened was we actually sold our house before we, oh, before we moved to san antonio because we were waiting for our house. So it was actually in storage, but, no, we didn't have any issues storing and moving our stuff and, honestly, we just got what we needed, you know, because we knew that we wanted to start over and then, at that time, living in Texas, you know, was a lower cost of living. However, I was terrified that we were not going to have a lot of like the Filipino, asian Americans with these staples.

Speaker 2:

So, you know what I did. I made sure that I had sacks of rice stored, I had my jugs of soy sauce, jugs of white vinegar, to make sure that I had that on hand when I moved to Texas. And then come to find out, when we moved here, we literally have a Filipino-Asian supermarket that's like six minutes away and they also have like they serve, like you know, your turuturu Filipino food. So I mean all that worrying for nothing.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, do they sell bolot over there too. Do you like eating bolot as well?

Speaker 2:

You know I'm a big fan of eating. Okay, I just can't get myself to eat the bird, especially when it's looking at me. I'm like, nah, I'm good, I do like the yolk, I do like the fowl in the egg yolk, but it's been a while. I mean, it's not something like, ooh, I got to have it.

Speaker 2:

I mean I'd rather have like, let's go back to the beginning. It's like mom, could you please make me dinaguan, because I love dinaguan, ooh, yeah, oh yeah. You know, it's definitely an acquired taste and I love my. I love my caracare with the oxtail and the pipe. So I have to make it American style when I'm here at home, but it's okay. When I go back to the Bay Area, my mom knows exactly what to cook, because she can cook the oh, of course, of course.

Speaker 1:

How about your synagogue? Do you use fish or do you use pork belly for your synagogue? Okay, I actually use pork ribs Pork Okay, that's a first for me. I've never cooked it with pork ribs. Pork spare Okay, that's a first for me.

Speaker 2:

I've never cooked it with pork ribs, pork, spare ribs is the way to go, really yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to try that. I'm going to cook that you should yeah.

Speaker 2:

Especially when you let it simmer for like an hour and a half and then it just falls off the bone and you're like yeah, I don't do fish because I'm too lazy to dig through the bone.

Speaker 1:

I know, right, I'd be lazy too. I'd be lazy too, and all that. So you talked about like, say gosh, it was on the top of my tongue, you thought you were done with your music career, right yeah, you thought you were done with your music career, right yeah. What, like? What indications did that? Did you know? Like, how did you like? How did you get that feeling when you're like, oh snap, I think it's over, it's time for me to move on to my next chapter.

Speaker 2:

I think a lot of it was because I was becoming a mom. I had already, we had our son and I would leave and tour for a long length of time, and so it was like, as much as I loved it, it was like I was wanting to be home and I wanted. My husband and I, we wanted, we wanted to raise him. We didn't want him going to take him, that, just us. You know, we thought there was a lot of benefits with me staying home and so it was like it was like, um, just a realization, like maybe this is not me anymore, especially because my heart was wanting to be at home and then, at the same time, it was like some of the venues that I was performing it wasn't fun anymore at that point and so it really just, you know, it came apart.

Speaker 2:

And then I was like, well, I mean, if something happens, then you know something happens Like God's going to have to write that on the wall, you know, for me to not perform anymore. And sure enough, I got pregnant with our daughter, a baby number two, and it was like, okay, well, this is the perfect time to like, just make, just make, make a quiet exit. And that's what I did. It was. It wasn't like there was an announcement like oh, this, you know, this is her farewell, like tour, farewell concert. For what album?

Speaker 2:

this is her farewell tour, farewell concert, farewell album, you know we just kind of like just left quietly, okay, so yeah, and that was pretty much it. And then it was like what she was. She was born in 04. And then again it wasn't until 2016, 2015, when things started, you know, happening again. And at that point I had two kids later, our oldest son was now graduating high school, was in college, and so we were like you know, our kids are getting older. So, you know, maybe this is something that we should consider. And again I went in kicking and screaming because I was like this can't possibly be it. You know, maybe this is something that we should consider. And again I went in kicking and screaming because I was like this can't possibly be it, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But it was just very much a good time and, again, an opportunity to say thank you to everybody who really made a part of my music a part of their lives, who really made my music a part of their lives, and I've done a few shows where people just pour out their heart and tell me what kind of effect my music has done in their lives, or even their kids. I'm like when I meet their kids, they're like you're the one that the parents would make us listen to every Saturday morning. Yes, and I was like I'm so sorry, but yes, you're the one that the parents would make us listen to every Saturday morning. And I was like I'm so sorry, but yes you know, and so I love the fact that I could bridge that gap.

Speaker 2:

You know, I could bridge that gap for certain people's lives and families.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, oh, that's awesome Because I've been in the Army for the Army for a good enough change now and, just like yourself, it was like that time where, dude, this isn't fun for me anymore. Like I'm mentally like breaking down, like my body was still good, but mentally I'm like because I've been on like nine-month assignments and everything and I was attached to the infantry. So, you know the infantry they're always out training and they're out like one week, two weeks, maybe a month or three months or whatever. So, um, what? Because I was probably active and now I'm in the guard.

Speaker 1:

Once I was in active, uh, man, like I couldn't stay away from my kids either. I was just like dang, this is getting like super difficult for me, especially, like you know, getting yelled at by my sergeants the demand of executing the mission flawlessly. I do understand. So my last year in the active side 2021, I was really on the fence on wanting to go back into, you know, the military service. But then I got talked to by the recruiter of the national guard and they're like, hey, once a month you get to do this, you get to play army, and then you know, the rest of the time you get to be a civilian.

Speaker 1:

You know, yeah, so that that that really caught me. So now you know I'm in the guard. So once I got out of active, I'm in the guard and I'm spending more time with the family now and it's like I love the guard. You know like we do our, we do our month or two month, you know assignments and everything, but it's um, the guard is like really family-based. So they really like, hey, we're gonna be out for another month. Do you want to go home or do you want to stay with us in training? So I love the option that they give. You know us soldiers in wanting to go home or not.

Speaker 1:

And of course you know I stay, but, man, you know you got to ask the wife. It's like, is it okay?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you know what, and because they make that available to you, doesn't it make you want to do better, you know? Oh, you want to represent where you are, and so I mean, I think for me it really was just a lifestyle, um, lifestyle, career or move. For me, you know, realistically, it was like okay, well, we're gonna have two kids, does that? You know? What does that mean? I mean, um, it's, it's different. And so we decided, okay, we're going to move to Texas and we're going to, we're going to see what opportunities lie over there. So I mean, during that time, my husband and I became.

Speaker 2:

we became full time ministry, full time ministry in our church and so again all of those things have changed outlook and everything.

Speaker 2:

And then, even like with performing again, it's like you get to share your, you get to share your joy with people and you get to share, you know, your faith or whatever, and so it's just totally a different perspective, even when you perform and you know we're talking about doing freestyle legacy concerts and it's like you're, you know you're. You're sharing the stage with Cynthia, you're sharing the stage with Johnny O and Lisa Lisa and Stevie B, and it's like they're your. They're your like comrades, you know they're your like. They're your like comrades, you know they're your like your peer partners, if you will, or your barcada yeah no, for real, like they are your straight up barcadas, they're your acuas, they're your cuyas.

Speaker 2:

it's funny because my husband, elaine, he used to, he used to DJ, and so, like those are records that he would spin. And so you know, while my husband is supposed to be taking care of me, he's my roadie, or whatever.

Speaker 2:

I'm looking for my husband. I'm like where is he at? You know? I'm like, you know, I need to get ready for my show. I need him to give me like a word of encouragement, like it's okay, baby, you're great. But instead Paul Boyk is near the stage with his jaw dropped watching Angel of Cover Girls perform, show Me Shining, and I'm like Paul, you're supposed to be taking care of me. He's like you don't understand. This is vinyl, this is real life vinyl. And it's like know what? You're absolutely right, and so it's been really, really fun. We went to Brazil last summer and we were performing with Planet Patrol. Oh, my gosh, how come I can't get their song, honey, do you remember what their song was? Oh, I don't. Anyways, huh, oh, play at your own risk, I'm telling you, or something like that that's a classic.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so yeah, they were there and it was just so fun because it's like I mean, I don't think any of us are like trying to recreate our career, but people just love our music. I mean in Brazil they love freestyle music so much I mean they can have a concert hall and they are like doing their own, they make up their own life, it's crazy.

Speaker 2:

I need to visit Brazil yes, you need to go to Brazil, for sure it's, but it's just really really neat, like that is where where I am as an artist. Okay, yeah, and then we get to talk about Our kids, our grandkids. What ailments that we're Treating right now.

Speaker 1:

My back, man my back.

Speaker 2:

The best supplements to take, you know. And it's just like you wouldn't have gotten that, like 30 years ago supplements to take, you know Right, oh my gosh, and it's just like man, you wouldn't have gotten that, like 30 years ago. You know, because I think everyone is focused on, you know, making a name for themselves and I just absolutely love where I'm at right now. I'm just really savoring it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, my goodness. Oh, ms Jocelyn, are you ready for these questions? Sure, okay.

Speaker 2:

Oh, no, no.

Speaker 1:

It's good, I filtered them, you're straight, you're good, okay, nothing crazy, nothing crazy. So the first one is I'm sweating now.

Speaker 2:

Huh, I'm sweating now, oh dang.

Speaker 1:

Turn that fan up. Turn that, fan up, turn that fan up.

Speaker 2:

It's a while the first one is any chance of a stars 54 reunion oh, man, you know, I would love to do a stars, uh, stars on 54 reunion. It's funny because we just celebrated our 25th anniversary and then we're actually we have have a project coming up where we are releasing vinyl for the music.

Speaker 1:

But I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I know for me it's not going to be a problem. I know that Alternate it won't be a problem. She's actually she's doing really good things. She's still in the music industry, she's DJing and whatnot. But it would probably be difficult because Amber is in the UK. So I mean, yeah, so she's not from here, she's from the UK and so it would definitely be dependent on her. But again, just to think about Stars on 54 and how much of an anthem it has become worldwide, I just love it.

Speaker 2:

And I love performing that as part of my set, Because you know how could you turn a folk song into such an amazing dance anthem, and then the remixes and whatnot. So I don't know, For me I would love a reunion. That would be great, but we'll see. There's two more other people that that we need to ask definitely.

Speaker 1:

I love the fact that you say it's going to go on vinyl, because I myself I still use vinyl, because, uh, I'm a dj too, but I don't really dj, dj, I'm a scratch dj, but I still buy vinyls.

Speaker 2:

You know I'm talking about like, about big ones, right, not the small ones, but the big ones, and I love to scratch.

Speaker 1:

But oh my gosh, you saying vinyl just feels so good because you know everything's on, you know mp3, they're mp3s, mp4s now I know, I know, yeah, so I I miss, I miss that stuff.

Speaker 1:

But man, hey, if there's a, if there's a chance of a reunion, because I used to go to raves I heard the 54 drop and I'm just like, oh man, I'm fist pumping my ass off when that drops Because I hear it and I'm just like man, I know this joint. I try to look around, see people, you know if they know it as well, they actually do. But then when it drops, you know, when the DJ drops it, I'm this joint. I try to look around, see people, you know if they know it as well, they actually do. But then when it drops, you know, when the DJ drops it, I'm just like, yes, per, let's just kill it.

Speaker 2:

It's so funny there's actually some never released remixes too, and so I'm really, really excited about that. I actually got to listen to one and it just I don't't know. There's just something about that song that just makes you happy, like you know, in light, especially because, uh, gordon lightfoot, as he passed away, um, not too long ago, it's like what a way to celebrate his muse, his musical contributions and his legacy through this song. So, yeah, i'm'm excited about dropping another Studio 54 release.

Speaker 1:

Man, heck, yeah. Next question is and then I'm going to try to okay. Next question is what did you do when you first got that big check? What did?

Speaker 2:

I do Wait. There's a big check. No.

Speaker 1:

I'm talking about like okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

So a big check to-.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, your first big check you know what I'm saying Like my big check was when I re-enlisted and I was like, damn, that's a lot of money, you know, because you know they're giving out.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So I don't know if this is like, if you guys ever use this in your household. I mean, I don't know it's a Filipino thing for us, but I remember every single time, like when somebody would get their first paycheck, you know thing for us. But I remember every single time, like when somebody would get their first paycheck, um, you know they would be like, oh, where's the blowout? Like a blow, like we're gonna have a blowout. Like like, like where are we gonna eat?

Speaker 2:

oh, yeah, yeah so it's funny because, like with my kids, like actually hold on, now that I'm thinking about it, my son has had a job for a long time and he never took me for a blowout. And I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1:

Oh my, and you better talk to him. You better talk to him, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, I'm going to call him after this interview.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

One of the first things that I did was make sure that I got to pay it forward with my family. Okay, I did was make sure that I got to pay it forward with my family.

Speaker 1:

We love food and so I made sure that I took them out to a nice dinner. Man, that's good of you. When I first got that re-enlistment bonus, I paid off a lot of my dad's credit card debt and I paid off my wife's credit card debt. So that was my thing to them and I paid off my wife's credit card debt. So that was like my thing to them, you know. But after that it just went all to savings and my wife splurged it on the baby. So I think I only saw.

Speaker 1:

How many kids do you have Altogether? I have four, so I have a six-year-old, an eight-year-old with my wife, I have an 18-year-old that's my wife's previous marriage and then I have a 20 year old from a previous you know, previous relationship. She's in college now okay all right, so we're kind of the same. We got four, four, you know yeah, we got four, four.

Speaker 2:

So my oldest is 25 and then my daughter 20, and then I have a 17 year old who's graduating high school, and then I have a 14 year old.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, the 14 and 17 year old Are they? Are they boys? Are they girls?

Speaker 2:

Boys. I have three boys, one girl, my second one.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, the boys have. Are they eye rolling you yet, or are they giving you problems yet?

Speaker 2:

Cause my 18 year old was like yeah, man, I'm, oh my you know, I think I mean my husband and I, we, we think I think we established a very early rule we're not friends, we're parents. Good, good, uh-huh, and so they have. You know, they need to understand that. Um, we could be friends later, but for the most part, I'm very, very blessed to have really great kids. You know, we try to keep an open communication. You know, nothing is ever a surprise to us. So we want them to, we want to make sure that they'll know that we are always available to talk to them, but thankfully, no, they haven't given us any issues.

Speaker 2:

So I don't know. I think about my childhood and I'm like, even to this day, I apologize to my mom. I'm like I'm sorry, it was a very difficult time. And she's like, oh, ana, no, you were very nice, but yeah, sometimes you were very difficult. Like I know, mom, I'm sorry. And then she's like, yeah, your kids are very nice to you. I said, yeah, I'm very thankful.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's good. So you know, you get to the age when kids are just too old to get spanked. Now, right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah so the way I discipline like, say, my, you know, my eldest one and my 18 year old is, you know, I have to think outside the box. I took away the door and I know a team you know they really what's that word? They love their privacy. So instead of taking their phones away because I know there's a way, you know, on their laptops or whatever, to get to social media sites or whatnot taking away their privacy was a real good way to put them like all right, I kind of messed up. I got to listen and follow the rules. Instead of spanking them or yelling at them, I'm like all right, cool, take off the hinges off the door. Right, cool, take off the hinges off the door. And yeah, I mean to me, that worked out real good for me, especially with not the whole spanking part, because you know, growing up old Filipino household, we're getting spanked. It's not child abuse, it's discipline. So it's like, yeah, I didn't want to use that anymore. So I try to like, think outside the box when disciplining these kids.

Speaker 2:

Are you asking me or are we talking about, like, parenting kids? Because for me, yeah, I think the last time I spanked any of my kids, I think, was when they were still in elementary. But we always tell them you know, this hurts me more than this hurts you, and we never spank out of anger. You know the bible says you know that.

Speaker 2:

You know to discipline, you know we have to, we have to give them the rod and so and so they learned at a very early age, like you know, um, there's consequences when you make poor choices. But you know, I love the fact that you know this is it's your house, it's your. I mean, unless they're paying for their computer, unless they're paying for their phone, I mean you have all, you should have all access. But that's just me. You know, our kids, we raise our kids very differently. I mean, um, social media is a whole different story oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

But you know, um, I think, um, I think it think it's great that parents need to be proactive, especially because they still live under our roofs. You know they need to have guidance and they need to know it's only for their protection and love. And I think you know we have had our share of life and I think you know we have had our share of life. We have had share, we've had our stories of heartaches and heartbreaks, and so I, for me, I don't want as much as possible, I, you know, for my kids. They know that everything is an open book, we can talk about these things, but, of course, if they make poor choices, then we really have to sit down and be like, ok, so what are the consequences? And they have. And when we set those consequences, we have to do them. We can't be like, oh, I'll take it back, or you know, okay, you can't do this, but later on you can, and then take it away. So it has to be consistent with everything, yeah the punishment has to stick.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yes, parenting as a whole is different for everybody. Yes, parenting is a whole, is is different for everybody. But again, like for for us, you know we, we run our house a little differently than a lot of people, but it's OK. It's OK. Our kids know that they're loved, and you know, I'm sure that your kids know that their love and you know, to each his own.

Speaker 1:

Everybody has their own lane to walk through. Oh, facts to each its own, like you know. Know, we just handle things differently, but the outcome is still the same. There they'll be flourishing, right? Yes, exactly exactly yeah, oh yeah so the next one is um, what do you do? Um, oh, what's the difference between you know the business of being in the industry from back then to now the well, okay.

Speaker 2:

So there, I mean, honestly, there's a big difference. I mean even I, as I think about it technology wise, you know, when I would record my music I would have to go into the studio, right yes, yeah well then you'd have to run the adats and you know it wasn't like the computer where you literally take your mouse and you move it to wherever you need to be.

Speaker 2:

I mean it was like, ok, well, let's go back and redo the hook. So you'd have to, you know, rewind the tapes and whatnot. And so definitely the technology has advanced, you know tremendously has advanced, you know tremendously. You know, back then again we didn't have social media, so a lot of like, a lot of people didn't know that.

Speaker 2:

I was Filipino until they would go to the radios, go to the concerts, go to the autograph signings and so, again, that's different For me. My mindset is, you know, looking back there are 30 years fast forward is really just being present when I'm performing, um, because I'm not again, I'm, I'm celebrating the music that that was done 30 years ago, you know. And so now I'm getting to receive, like their stories. You know, like I shared with you earlier, you know, my mom would make us listen to your song on Saturday mornings. Or you know, this song got me through a really dark time in my life, you know. Or I named my daughter after you, you know.

Speaker 2:

So I get to hear those stories now with just really just being completely grateful and humbled that, um, after all these years, my music has made an impact on, on people's, and so 30 years ago I was like, okay, well, what's my next move? Or what's my next single? Or you know, how do I get better at my craft? Or how do I you know what's the next hit single that I need to perform and whatnot. And it's funny because 30 years fast forward, I mean, I'm doing, I'm learning. Sometimes I have the same choreography as I had, 30 years ago or maybe, different choreography, but now it's, it is custom to my, my mobility, my mobility.

Speaker 1:

It's like, ooh, my hip don't move that way, no more, ooh we got to do something else. Okay. I think I can whip my hair like three times.

Speaker 2:

That's funny.

Speaker 1:

It's like hold on, hold on. I can't do that move as I did. Nope, nope.

Speaker 2:

Okay, y'all can do that, it's funny because I have my pencils and my dad's, like I'm old enough to be your mom too.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's funny.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm old enough to be your mom and I'm like, all right, y'all got it. Okay, you guys go to the front so I can see you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, it's like mm nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Oh man, she's wearing flats.

Speaker 1:

Yeah right, it's like, ooh that, ankle that, ankle that eye stuff there that ankle. Hey, this is real tough. That's so funny. That's funny man. So the difference from back then and now it's just the whole social media and technology, then right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the all-action, Okay yeah we all-access. Yeah, we're definitely far more advanced. You could record a music video using your own phone. Yeah, you know, back in the day you had to like look at frequency interview a director. Yeah, so it's different, it's very different.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, you said music videos and you know technology videos and technology being different back in the day. Do you have tapes and recordings of your behind the scenes, Of you're singing a song and someone's recording you and when you're out in the booth, you got the behind the scenes of the music video? Do you still have those or are they washed away somewhere?

Speaker 2:

I don't realize exactly what was happening and how. I wish we did a lot more like behind-the-scenes footage, because I even the tours, the bus tours that I did, you know, and you can, all these different. There's pictures like that, I find, for your, even people that will send to us, but for me personally, I don't have a large library of the Beyond the Scenes footage and so a lot of it is like in my mind, you know or memory that I like reel back in.

Speaker 2:

So I mean, I don't know, maybe I should do like a call hey, if you have any footages of back in the day, you know with me and you know, send it over here and whatnot. But unfortunately I don't. I don't and I wish I did.

Speaker 1:

The only reason why I brought that up is because a couple of days ago I found old tapes of, you know, me and my cousins. We performed at Filipino festivals and stuff and practices and it knows, and you know, you have to get a vhs right. So, luckily for me, I have a vcr still right. And then, um, we were watching it and my kids were like, oh, dad, this is you. I was like, yeah, man, look at me with the bangs, you know, with the fade in the bands. That's me with the big baggy clothes. That's me. Oh, my big bag of clothes. That's me. Oh my God. So they're like, oh, you did this. Like before. I was like, yeah, man, I was a kid once too. You know, I was never. I'm not old all the time I was a kid, yeah, so do you remember? Go ahead.

Speaker 2:

No, I wish I had more of the behind the scenes footage, because there's so many stories to tell for that. I mean not not just for myself, but you're right like for my kids, you know.

Speaker 2:

I want them. I want them to know, like this, just the stuff that that I went through um with during my career. And because all they know, like especially when you're here in texas, it's like if I still lived in california maybe they would be fully aware of just the extent. But now, like you know, I have to tell them I'm going to a filipino american history month um event, yeah, and it's like well, why? You know there's other singers like why, why? Why is why? You and I'm like you know there's other singers like why? You and I'm like you know, first of all, I'm trying to deal with that question myself too.

Speaker 1:

You know.

Speaker 2:

But I get to be a part of that history where you know, being one of the first Filipino Americans to make it on Billboard you know I've never won a Grammy, you know, on billboard, you know I didn't. I've never won a grammy, you know. However, you know my name will be forever be etched in history where you know I made, I charted on billboard charts. So I mean that's a huge accomplishment for our couple buy-ins, you know. But a lot of it too is because they believe in my music. They believe in, you know I wouldn't have been able to do what I do had it not been for the fans that took the time to call the radio stations, that took the time to go and buy my CD. You know that took the time to be like, oh my goodness, she's Filipino. Oh, we should get her for the next F-Pack or whatever.

Speaker 2:

College is something about. What does it mean, as a Filipino-American, to be a good musician? Everybody has a part in. I think I need a JE project. I call it the JE project. I call it the JE project. I talk in third person sometimes because I forget.

Speaker 2:

It's like oh shoot, that's me you know.

Speaker 1:

so yeah, oh, wow. And then next question is what is your dream place to retire at?

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's a great question. I love that my husband and I have move to the Philippines because we have a heart for ministry and we would love to church where his late father grew up and and and and evangelize and share the joy of Jesus over there. So that's been a heart desire since 2019. We actually went out there, we did some mission work, we served alongside a bible college over there and, um, you know, unbeknownst to each other, we, our heart was very heavy for um, the province that my father-in-law grew up in, and we talked about it and both of us were like bawling because he felt the same way, I felt the same way and we never talked about it. So I don't know, that's, that's a dream. Um, retirement, uh place would be back back in the back in the Philippines.

Speaker 2:

We weren't born there, but it's also giving back to our families, our parents that immigrated from there to here to give us a wonderful life. And so what more to give back to our families back home?

Speaker 1:

Is there a specific place like a specific province, or will you be living in Manila or Baguio or anything? Is there something specific place, like a specific province, or will you be living in Manila or Baguio or anything? Is there somewhere specific or is it just?

Speaker 2:

Well, I live, my parents grew up, my parents are closer to Baguio, but it would be. It would be. Oh my gosh, I can't even think right now. Batangas, oh my gosh, I can't even think right now. Batangas, oh, batangas, I'm so happy. Thank you, eddie, for listening. We would love to be in Batangas.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, beautiful place. My dad is from Mindanao. Okay, yeah, so my birth mom. I think she's from Tanao. Okay yeah, so my birth mom. I think she's from Tarlac. I don't know who my mom was, but he would tell me that, yeah, she's from Tarlac. So Mindanao. I like it there, a little hot, but I mean I like how it's so far away from everything.

Speaker 1:

So it's like super, it's super peaceful. But I do get the heebie-jeebies when I hear, you know, the Aswang stories, the White Lady stories, the dwarf stories. That still gets me, you know, like to this day, because I'm really into the paranormal like that. But yeah, when I'm back home I just love hearing those stories and I'm just like, oh my God, I'm staying in the light, I'm not turning off this light, I'm staying in the light, I'm not turning off this light.

Speaker 2:

I'm just staying right here, you know? Oh man, You're a city folk in comparison to Well, because Mindanao is very countryside right, yeah, yeah. So yeah, batangas I mean they're very westernized over there. When I would do tours in the Philippines, I would always try to make it a point to spend a day or two visiting my family province. Oh, definitely. So it's just definitely something that God has put on our hearts to go back and really just get back to our ancestry, if you will.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, mar, I'm good for you. Good for you. Yes, I got the adding um, so, uh, what? What are your next projects? What do you got coming up?

Speaker 2:

so it's. It's funny because I mean it's an ongoing thing. You know, with the legacy artists I get to do a lot of shows that pertain to, like I'm doing an 80s, 90s concert coming up in Chicago. It's, you know, crystal Waters, la Bouche, crutch, from Madi by Nature, I mean, and they're just very like random, yeah, very random artists. I'll be in Dallas and I'm going to be doing another show with another lineup of people, and so in Chicago I'll be in New York or the New York area in the summertime and you know, the shows are getting added on as we see getting worked on and so I try to keep myself busy.

Speaker 2:

But you know, again, at the same time I'm a mom, and so I'm a mom. I'm a ministry. My husband is a worship pastor for a church, so I get to come alongside him and help with whatever ministry that he has. I came back from a women's retreat and so I did the worship retreat over there. So you know, in the midst of my shows and my projects, I get to do life here at home and I have a son that's going to be graduating high school and he's leaving his mother, not just kidding, he's leaving his mother and he's going to go to school in College Station in DeFallon.

Speaker 2:

I have been very fortunate because my two older kids they decided to go to school around town and so they were commuters. They decided to go to school around town and so they were commuters. So this is the first time that I'm going to have one of my kids actually leave for a long period of time. My daughter just came back from doing a study abroad program in Greece, and so that was a little hard for me and I'm very close to all my kids.

Speaker 2:

You know it's like that in every Filipino home, and so, um, this will be different. But, uh, I know that I'll keep myself busy and just again, just the different projects that I'm doing.

Speaker 2:

we're about to get ready to release, in the summertime, a live album and then, um, I we're actually re-releasing some of the songs from my first album on Big Love, and then an album and a single that we never really officially released, called Only, which is another freestyle song, and it's one of my husband's favorite freestyle songs that I recorded. So I'm really really excited, really excited.

Speaker 2:

all the different projects you know, and again, I'm also recording in the studio uh songs that so like it might be an original that I'm writing, or it might be a song that I grew up listening to, um, and I get to make it my own, and so, um, yeah, I, there's never a dull moment in my life damn, hey, definitely, definitely, because uh are one of these songs that will be coming out.

Speaker 1:

Are they going to be in tagalog?

Speaker 2:

no, but but you know that I have a tagalog song of my second right is it yes I love that song. I love so that song. So it, that song um was released in japanese, in english and in tagalog okay, and I heard that song in high school and I was like if I were to ever release Any album, and this was when I was still in high school. I want to put that song out. However, if I record a Sadala song, it'll be your idea.

Speaker 1:

No way for real yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm like you know what that's a yeah, I'm like you know what that's a great idea.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to brainstorm and I'm going to shoot. I got your email address now, so I'm going to shoot that. Once I get it, I'm going to shoot it. No, but going back to Kaila, that was like one of my favorite when I started listening to Tagalog music heavy, that was one of the songs that like, oh snap, like my language really does sound good. Yeah, it does sound good, and I'm like man, mm-mm-mm, Because after, you know, I listened to that song. You know I had Napster and everything. So I was like, okay, let me do this, let me do that. And then Dahil Say, you'll like, that's what I started listening to next. And then all these other love songs, because my, my dad used to listen, you know, watch these movies and I would listen to the soundtracks of them. So, yeah, like I think I think kailan mom fucking like, oh well, it's okay, um it, it. But it opened the. You know, like the, the Tagalog song. You know, that's that slow version, like to me.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:

So, girl, you did that.

Speaker 2:

You know what's funny? No, I, I, I actually covered it. I don't want to take any credit for it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like to this day, like you know, because the Tagalog language I mean it could be super deep, right, yeah, yeah. Language, I mean it could be super deep, right, yeah, yeah. So I'm not even sure that the English version of it is completely like it's translated, but I don't know if it's fully accurate with the meaning of it in Tagalog. In Tagalog, yeah, but it's, it's so deep and there's just something about that song. It's just the melody line, the way the chords are arranged. It's just a sweet song, and so I was like I'm going to record that song if I ever get a chance to, but I don't know, maybe a Taglish song.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, that would be sick.

Speaker 2:

See, I got you thinking, I got you thinking yes, so those are the different projects that I'm working on okay, oh, that's what's up.

Speaker 1:

So, manon Joss, that was fun. Do you have any like shout outs or anything? And where can you know these people find you at? Okay.

Speaker 2:

So first of all, I just want to thank you. Chris and tell your wife thank you for letting me hang out with you this morning. It's morning to you, afternoon for me, yeah, just thank you for allowing me to share my story with your listeners and you know your listeners.

Speaker 2:

That are that are listening. It really is an opportunity for me to say thank you for allowing me to do what I do, even from 30 years ago, and being able to share my story. You know, I love what I do now because it's not about me, it's about how the music can impact people, and so it's just, you know, just it's being able to continue to do what I do and hopefully one day I'll get to see you guys in Kapolei or somewhere in the Hawaii area. That'd be sick. Yeah, I would love to see you guys in Kapolei or somewhere in the Hawaii area. That'd be sick. Yeah, I would love to be out there and perform again because it's been a minute and yeah, just thank you so much.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for allowing me to be here, and you can find my music on all platforms. I have Spotify. I have wherever you you purchase your, download, your music. I also have my YouTube channel, jocelyn Enriquez. I have IG. I have Facebook, jocelyn Enriquez Official. If you are curious about what I'm doing and you know what my family looks like and you know what, how life moves me, I would love to see you there. And, uh, again, just thank you. And for those of you that are watching and aren't in the hawaii area and maybe in the mainland. Um, I will be in different parts of the country and I hope to see my performances. And please make sure you say hi and mention Chris and his Podcast and I'll be like oh yeah, that's my Adi.

Speaker 1:

Man, that's my mom. Y'all better step back. She might have a bad hip, but she'll whoop y'all Well said With that man, shout out to KO Studios. Thank you for the lovely home. Rafi Baye, my man, thank you for the lovely vibe, and with that I'm Chris.

Speaker 2:

Mahalo, I'm Jocelyn Enriquez.

Speaker 1:

Hell yeah, and we out Peace.

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