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ChatGPT Dating Advice, the 'Talking Stage', and Blocking Exes with Hokulani
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Ever wondered what it's like to be a professional Tahitian dancer who's also navigating the modern dating scene? Hokulani joins Chris on the REALationship Method podcast for her first-ever podcast interview, pulling back the curtain on her life beyond the dance performances you see on social media.
Born into a family of Polynesian dancers, Hokulani began competing at just six years old and has since transformed her passion into a thriving content creation career. She candidly shares how she monetizes her cultural performances through TikTok while maintaining respect for her Polynesian heritage—a delicate balance that influences everything from her content choices to her dating life.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn when Hokulani reveals her unconventional relationship counselor: ChatGPT! She explains how AI has helped her navigate dating dilemmas when she wasn't ready to speak with friends or family. This leads to a deeper discussion about modern dating customs, with Hokulani asserting that the "talking stage" should last no longer than 3-4 months before becoming official—a timeline that seems increasingly rare in today's dating landscape.
Perhaps most revealing is Hokulani's philosophy on ending relationships: "blocking on social media = out of sight, out of mind." She explains why she believes clean breaks are necessary and how living in Las Vegas while her family returned to Hawaii has shaped her independence. The episode concludes with Hokulani sharing details about a promising new connection and her plans to return to Hawaii within the year.
Whether you're interested in the intersection of cultural identity and modern relationships, curious about content creation as a career path, or simply enjoy authentic conversations about dating in the digital age, this episode offers refreshing insights from someone straddling traditional values and contemporary life.
• Hokulani shares her journey as a Tahitian dancer, competing since age six and eventually transforming her passion into a content creation career
• Discussion of how content creation became Hokulani's primary source of income through TikTok monetization and TikTok Shop
• Exploration of texting behaviors in relationships and how Hokulani uses ChatGPT as an unconventional therapist for relationship advice
• Hokulani reveals her perspective that the "talking stage" should last no more than 3-4 months before becoming official
• Conversation about dating expectations, including chivalry and the importance of opening car doors
• Debate on whether dating multiple people while single makes someone a "player" or is actually healthy exploration
• Hokulani explains her philosophy on blocking exes: "out of sight, out of mind"
• Discussion about Hokulani's plans to move back to Hawaii from Las Vegas within the next year
• Analysis of how being a content creator affects dating life and why some men find social media status intimidating
5, 4, 3, 2, 1,. Welcome back to another episode of the Relationship Method podcast. It's your boy, chris, and today I have Tahitian dancer, tahitian instructor, tahitian competitor man. I have your girl, hokul, on this motherfucking pod. Yay Hokulani, thank you for coming on today Of course.
Speaker 2Thank you for having me oh my gosh.
Speaker 1I acknowledge your thankfulness.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1Yeah, okay, yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2I'm very grateful. This is such an amazing opportunity. Oh my gosh, Same here.
Speaker 1I'm very grateful. This is such an amazing opportunity oh my gosh, same here Before we get this going. Ma'am, how did I get the yes from you to come on this little pod?
Speaker 2Well, you got the yes one because it is my very first podcast. It is the first time ever somebody has asked me.
Speaker 1Shut your ass up, yeah.
Speaker 2We'll get into that yeah. So I'm very grateful and I feel like on social media, nobody ever hears me talk or knows my story. They just see me dance all the time. You know, dancing does tell a story, however, but I feel like nobody gets to know the real me, so I feel like this is a good opportunity to let people know.
Speaker 1Man girl. Hell yeah Shit. I just got a brain fart when you say this is your first pod. Poppin' Cherries would want to hear your story or hear you speak on certain types of things and discussions and stuff.
Speaker 2That's surprising to me, yeah. Holy crap, I'm actually really surprised too.
Hokulani's Dance Journey
Speaker 1Okay, well, we'll get into your story then. How did you, Hokulani get into dancing then?
Speaker 2Okay, so both of my parents were both Polynesian dancers as well. They were in the entertainment industry, so they danced in luwows and also were in a halau. So I grew up into it, but I started competing when I was six years old, so I've been a competitor ever since. So I'm always hungry, always needing more. So yeah, it was my parents who brought me into it. I was kind of voluntold growing up.
Speaker 2I hate that shit, but hey yeah, so I was forced into it. I didn't actually start liking it until I was probably like eight or ten, yeah so, um, you're hungry.
Speaker 1Uh, chili's you kind of messed up today. Um, uh, six years old, my little one, she goes to, I guess. Um, there's a place, uh, there's a, there's a class in crock center and she's taking hula right now my mom teaches there right now shut your ass up.
Speaker 1Um god, I don't know her name because my wife usually takes her, but you know she's, you know, cute wearing the purple shirts and shit. But um yeah, so you competed for that place, or did you have to join a different? What you say halal. So for people that don't know what a halal is, what is a halal?
Speaker 2halal is a a group, so in tajuan it's called a pupu ori, in hula it's called a halau. So it's just basically a dance group okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1And did you dance for um the croc center or did you go somewhere else?
Speaker 2I've always danced with the group to wakanui and they're based in las vegas. Oh so growing up I was just dancing with my mom and my dad, but but I officially joined a group when I was six.
Speaker 1Officially joined a group at six, and then did you have to fly to Las Vegas, or were they here on the island already?
Speaker 2It was in Las Vegas, so it was after we moved.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, and then what made you move? Or was it like a family thing?
Speaker 2It was a family thing. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1And then you and I talked prior, you decided to stay in Vegas, and then they came home, or how did that situation work out?
Speaker 2Yeah, so my mom got a job opportunity out here in Oahu to work for Southwest Airlines.
Speaker 1Oh, go ahead, auntie.
Speaker 2Yes, so she decided to move back, and then my dad decided to move back, and then my siblings all decided to move back.
Speaker 1Leaving you there.
Speaker 2Leaving me lonely and stranded.
Speaker 1Girl, when did they move out? And then, how old were you when this whole transition happened?
Speaker 2I was 20 or 21. So I was already out of the house, so it wasn't that big of a jump you know. So I was already living on my own, so it was pretty easy.
Speaker 1Ooh and then did you go to high school out there in Vegas too, or did you?
Speaker 2really yeah, I went to Desert Oasis.
Speaker 1I've heard of that school before. Hey, las Vegas, you got a local here, you know that, so there, and then did you go to college or anything.
Speaker 2No, I didn't.
Content Creation as a Career
Speaker 1Yeah, school's for suckers anyway. You don't need it, honestly, ooh, okay, okay. And then, of course, me and her we talk. You know off-air, offline and everything. You're into this, you know content creating and you're making I'm not saying major bucks, but that's your primary source of income. So tell me about that how does like being a Tahitian instructor, competitor and dancer how does, how did you, how did that become like your whole primary, primary, primarily source of income? Like, how did that happen?
Speaker 2okay, so I started TikTok back in 2020 when COVID happened, but I wasn't making any money on there, so I was a server and a bottle girl in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1Hey, I think every female, almost every female that lived in Vegas had to experience that type of life. You have to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2So I was doing that for a couple of years, and then it was 2023, when the season was over.
Speaker 1So I was only doing it. There's seasons for bottle service, yeah, so I was doing it at a day club.
Speaker 2So the summer was over, Huh yeah. So it was around August time and then I'm like, oh, what do I want to do with my life? Do I want to get another serving job? You know? But I was just so over the industry so I was like, you know, maybe let me take content creating a little more seriously.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2So I went full force into it, started posting. So you make a couple dollars off of each thousand view so I just kept posting every single day. I posted like three times a day and this is on tiktok. This is on tiktok, okay and then I finally, um, got monetized. It's what it's when you hit a 10 000 followers. So that's when I just started posting, posting, posting, and then I got a lot of views and I was just like okay, I think I could do this and that's when.
Speaker 1So your content, was it you? Uh, what was your content like back in the day?
Speaker 2so back in 2023 it was all dancing content, uh-huh. And then they opened this new thing called tiktok shop. I don't know if you've ever heard of it Never heard of that. Yeah, so it's basically like Amazon, but on TikTok, uh-huh, and you just promote it and you get a commission.
Speaker 1Yeah, what Not?
Speaker 2only am I getting paid for my views, but I'm also getting paid to promote products.
Speaker 1Really Uh-huh. All right, this might be a side note. How does it work that once a year thing when you have to do your taxes and everything?
Speaker 2how does it work?
Speaker 1yeah, how does that work? Is it the same where, like you, claim your own business? Am I right? Yeah and then um, how do you pay back? Because yeah tax is getting taken out. They don't take it out so you have to save okay, see, there it is.
Speaker 2That's what I think, that's what I'll get into, so that's the the sucky part about being a content creator, so you do have to have like a tax person, like if you can't manage it on your own. Yeah, so yeah. But the good thing is, a lot of things get written off, like my camera, my phone, my wi-fi, because I use all that stuff, you know true?
Speaker 1so yeah does, does your car get written off as well? If you have like a sticker on it, does it get written off?
Speaker 2So I actually don't drive anymore. I haven't driven in over a year.
Speaker 1Really. So how are you getting around Vegas Uber?
Speaker 2Uber everywhere.
Speaker 1Uber everywhere? Yeah, okay, do you have a driver's license at least?
Speaker 2I do so. I got into a car accident last year after practice and I've been traumatized ever since.
Speaker 1Really Mm-hmm. So that trauma. Did you have to go see a thai-, a thai-, a therapist for that?
Speaker 2No, I was actually supposed to go see a psychiatrist.
Speaker 1Psychiatrist.
Speaker 2okay, but I don't know, I was just always too nervous psychiatrist?
Speaker 1okay, I don't know, I was just always too nervous. Are you, um, like me back in the day? Are you one of those people where it's like, man, I could fix myself. I don't need an, a third or a third person outside like analyzing me and shit yes, so funny you brought that up.
Speaker 2I've been using chat gbt as a therapist okay, wait, oh okay.
Speaker 1So what would you ask? We're gonna get down to this one. How? What did you ask chat gbt? And then what did they answer? Like what did it answer you?
Speaker 2I'm. I just asked it like how can I get over my fear of driving? Okay yeah, and then it'll just like give me a whole list of things to do.
Speaker 1Obviously, it doesn't really help is it generic, or are you like, oh shit, this is like kind of heartfelt yeah, it is pretty generic oh, pretty generic, yeah, okay but I do like to use it for like more relationship stuff shut up for real. It helped, did it work? Yes, really, it really helped me.
Relationship Communication Styles
Speaker 2One, give me one example like when I asked it, okay, so there was this one boy that I was talking to, but he would never text me, but I could tell that there was like a vibe together, you know, and I was just asking Chow JBT. I was like okay, does this boy like me? Like I can't tell if he's not texting me.
Speaker 1That was it. Just does this boy like me?
Speaker 2Well, obviously they asked like, oh, give me more of your guys' story together. And so I did, and they're like, yeah, he doesn't like you.
Speaker 1So did you ever ask the boy if he did like you, or you just went off of chat, gpt.
Speaker 2I just went off of chat GPT. Oh my God.
Speaker 1You probably caught an L on this one.
Speaker 2I was like you know what chat GPT? You're right.
Speaker 1Oh, no way. That's so funny Because I use ChatGPT on like captions and everything. I've never done it to where you're like for that like advice.
Speaker 2No, yeah. So there's like a little voice button that you could click and it's literally someone talking to you and it answers right away.
Speaker 1Can you choose the voice? Yes, what's your voice? Um, what's your voice?
Speaker 2uh, default so you could choose like a, like a empathetic person or a strict person. I choose the more straightforward person. I want you to tell me how it is okay, yeah, and then.
Speaker 1Uh, do you get to choose the accent like an englishman or someone from Nigeria?
Speaker 2Shut up. I chose to listen from a man's perspective.
Speaker 1Would that ease you a little bit more than a woman's it?
Speaker 2helps me because obviously I have girlfriends and I ask them for advice.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2You know how it is Like yeah we listen, but I'd rather hear it from the man's perspective. You know, just because I don't know, as a woman I feel like we talk out of emotion a lot.
Speaker 1And not perspective in the brain. Do you have guy friends out there in Vegas or any close ones? Yeah, could you bring these issues to them, or will they give you some sort of generic answer as well?
Speaker 2You know, sometimes it's hard being a girl and having guy friends, because you don't know if they're giving you this advice because they're being straight up or because they like you. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1You know, like you as in, like you, like you as in, like you, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2So I'm just like, okay, are you telling me to leave him because you want me, or are you telling me to leave him because he's actually not good for me?
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I think you need one of those, um, I guess one of those friends, those guy friends, because I'm one of them too. That's just, I ain't got no time for girls. I'm all about me right now. If you come along, cool, but right now I'll give you the nate grit straight up yeah you know, yeah, oh my gosh, I had a question, but oh fuck, I fucking forgot it, goddamn. Um, uh, okay, guys, how do Do you have like a sixth sense on if guys are liking you or not? You?
Speaker 2could tell, you could tell, huh.
Speaker 1You could tell yeah. So if a guy likes you and you're not interested, what is your telltale sign? Or like what do you do to let the person know, like I'm not interested, I just see you more of a friend. We can hang out as friends, but nothing more.
Speaker 2I just tell them straight up, as it is, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1And does that end well with you, or does? The guy is like my heart's broken. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2So I'm very known for blocking.
Speaker 1Mm okay.
Speaker 2So I just block, so they don't even have a chance to see me. You know, I don't have a chance to see them after we finish talking.
Speaker 1Blocking on social media or blocking in your phone as well.
Speaker 2Social media.
Speaker 1But on your phone he's still there.
Speaker 2He's still there. He can message me if he wants to, but I'm not going to respond.
Speaker 1But he's your there. Oh yeah, he can message me if he wants to, but I'm not gonna respond. But he's your friend, he's a friend. So when, what, what text will make you respond back? Because I know a lot of guys out there are like they might be in the same situation where he finally told one of his girlfriends like yo, I kind of like you, and then she's like oh, kind of weirded out, maybe blocked him and he's texting, she's not responding. So what's the breaking text where it's like, oh snap, hi, how you doing, or is it a birthday? Could it be a birthday or christmas text?
Speaker 2anything, I'm just no, I'm not responding to nothing, no contact nothing. No contact.
Speaker 1So you block him. So if you block him on social media, can you see his stuff? Or is it just you don't see his stuff? He doesn't see your stuff.
Speaker 2Out of sight, out of mind, on both ends.
Speaker 1Really. So why do you keep his number in the phone then, if you blocked him on social media? It's because it's there, you know oh okay, someone taught me that the people that you don't talk to anymore on your phone, instead of having their name, you put like an emoji of like, let's say, a skull or like a tombstone right and then, yeah, so if they ever text, it's like who is this? Because you know you might not even know the number by heart wait, I actually did this did really. How did that pan out?
Speaker 2um why I put a tombstone yeah it's because, uh, he ghosted me on valentine's day shut up.
Speaker 1So how did you feel about that?
Speaker 2like when you, when you, when you're the ghost, start ghosty yeah, it was very weird for me, because I never really get ghosted uh-huh so, yeah it. It was Valentine's Day and we were supposed to go to dinner, and then he never messaged me the whole entire day.
Speaker 1Wait after dinner or before.
Speaker 2The whole day.
Speaker 1No way, but you were supposed to go to dinner. Yeah, we were. What did you do?
Speaker 2What did I do?
Speaker 1For Valentine's, for him to not communicate with you. What did you do? Looking back? Let's break it down. Communicate with you. What did you do? Looking back, like let's, let's break it down. Looking back, what did hokalani do throughout that day? To where it's like dude, I'm not gonna text her like this no, okay, so oh, she did do something okay okay.
Speaker 2So, uh, he actually messaged me the next day, the following day okay and he said oh hey, I don't want to actually ghost you, but these are the reasons why I don't want to pursue this.
Speaker 1Were they valid.
Speaker 2Yeah, they were.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2So I did have an ex that I had around, you know, because he was a friend, you know like yeah, okay, okay, okay, An ex that was around, okay, yeah, and he just didn't like that, and I get it, you know. Yeah, and he just didn't like that, and I get it, you know.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I wouldn't want to be with someone who's still hanging out with their ex, so it was valid.
Speaker 1Your ex? Were you guys friends before you got together?
Speaker 2So my ex was actually my personal trainer. So yeah, before we started dating.
Speaker 1You had a friendship there, so it wasn't like a high school sweetheart or whatever, it was just a.
Speaker 2Yeah no, he came up to me at the gym. I was like hey, do you want some personal training?
Speaker 1I'm like sure, Personal training Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
Speaker 2It got pretty personal.
Speaker 1So the so the reasons are valid, yeah, and did you like, like, did it left you like thinking, like, damn, that kind of, did that kind of hurt your ego, or like did it kind of like hurt you in some way because it happened?
Speaker 2Yeah, it definitely opened my eyes. Yeah, there you go, I was just like dang, I really do need to cut off my ex. You know, if I want to find someone new, you know, obviously I can't have my ex stringing along, so right after that I did cut him off.
Speaker 1As in blocked him.
Speaker 2Wait who my ex?
Speaker 1The ex.
Speaker 2Yeah, you blocked him, blocked on everything, even phone number, and deleted his phone number.
Speaker 1Really Did he try getting you like texting you back?
Speaker 2I don't know, because I blocked him.
Speaker 1So the whole thing of blocking right, if let's say the person gets a new phone, same number, tries calling you, does that show up on your phone, like when you block him? Does it show up on your phone or does it just go straight to voicemail with the phone number in your missed call section?
Speaker 2It goes straight to voicemail.
Speaker 1And you'll never see it. Yeah, wow.
Modern Dating and the "Talking Stage"
Speaker 2There is a little column in your voicemails. If you scroll all the way down you can see blocked voicemails. So if he did were to send one, I could hear it.
Speaker 1But who does ever check that box, right? Yeah, I mean, I check it here and there. Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, dude, I don't think, man, I'm trying to think when I blocked someone, or if I were the blocky. I don't think I've ever. Maybe I think I was the blocky, I don't know, because I would contact someone and then they would never respond. So I guess I was the blocky, right?
Speaker 2It does not deliver.
Speaker 1No, it delivers, it goes through, but it's just I don't get to respond back.
Speaker 2So I think I was the blocky or I just got ghosted? Yeah, you were probably just ghosted, probably.
Speaker 1And then with the whole calling no, I would ring and go to voicemail, yeah, but if I was blocked it would go straight to voicemail. Mm-hmm, yeah, I didn't get blocked on the phone part, Hmm. But then when I feel that type of way I'd be going through my feels yeah, like I'd be going through my feels. Yeah, like I'll be like dude, like I want I want everyone to like me and everything, yeah. And then when someone doesn't, I try to go out of my way, be like dude, what did I do to you for you not to like me? I'm just like shit. Does that happen to you too? Yeah, where you just get into like dude, what? Why doesn't she like me? Why? Why is he like a dick to me? Like, what did I do wrong?
Speaker 2yeah, I'm a people, pleaser, you know, I think a lot of people yeah, yeah, to an extent, yeah, okay so when someone like actually doesn't like me, I like look at myself and I question. I'm like, what is there not to like? You know, not in like a high makamaka way, but like what did I do to you?
Speaker 1you know.
Speaker 2So whenever that does happen, I I like to just think like, ok, did I say something or did I do something in order to trigger them? Yeah, and you know, sometimes I do have to take accountability, like there are little things that could bother someone, that I don't even notice, so, but it's always important to communicate.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh, On this podcast we talk about communication a lot and I'm I'm getting sick and tired of hearing it, but I mean it's valid. No, it is, it is, and there's like certain ways to communicate. You could be like super blunt about it or you could you have to, I guess, give them a like give it a pillow, you know, to say to where, um, the message is. The message is there, but in in a way where the person is like okay, I don't feel attacked. Yeah, because I think people feel attacked when you're communicating. But you're like being straight up? Yeah, are you a straight up person like do you want the message come across across to you? Like girl, poor Hemplo, and you know her breath doesn't stink, but if it's like you should kind of stink right now, you need some gum. Or would it be like you want a breath in?
Speaker 2I feel like either way I get the message.
Speaker 1Yeah, so either way, I mean which way would you be like what the fuck? Or all right, cool, cool, cool cool, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2Yeah, the first one, I would definitely be like the fuck yeah. But when it comes to conflict, I do like to be more straightforward. And I would want the person to be more straightforward with me. So there are times when because obviously we're in a dance group and we're surrounded by girls and hormones- oh my gosh Attitudes.
Speaker 2In a dance group and we're surrounded by girls and hormones oh my gosh attitudes. Uh, I love you guys, but, um, yeah, there are times where there are situations where I have to nip it in the butt because, like, there are times where I would just hold this judgment on this certain person or this, a certain resentment against them because they did something to me, you know. But I think it's the best thing to do is to communicate. I pull them to the side and be like hey, sis, I didn't like that. You did this to me, you know, uh-huh, and I feel like it's better received that way, you know oh no, that's facts.
Speaker 1Um, I remember when I was dancing in a dance crew back in california. Uh, you know, when we, when we would block, and then when would people, when people would put in their suggestions on how we would block or how would we, uh, like, make it more eye appealing, and um, and as a choreographer, you'd be like, hey, man, shut up, this is my shit, you know. Or yeah, or you'd be like, hey, man, shut up, this is my shit, you know. Or you'd be like, hey, because you would say it. Well, me personally, I would. I'm the type of person that I would say it in front of everyone and I'd just be like hey, what do you guys think? Da-da-da-da-da. So I think, yeah, side to the, to the side, it's less, I guess it's less attacked on them, because and they wouldn't feel that pressure with everyone like looking and be like, oh shit, what is he?
Speaker 2gonna say next yeah, yeah, definitely not in front of like the whole class, oh yeah definitely when you're teaching class.
Speaker 1Is it a? Is it a five, six, seven, eight type of deal, or do you go like, like, how do you when you're choreographing these things and blocking them? Is it the 5, 6, 7, 8? Or is it the dun-dun-dun?
Speaker 2It is a 5, 6, 7, 8. And then I also do a drum with my mouth.
Speaker 1Give me an example.
Speaker 2Like.
Speaker 1Okay, I feel that because when I used to teach it was like 5, 6, 7, 8. Andack, tiki, tiki, clack, boom yeah I do that.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's like a hip-hop thing, yeah, and goes, woo, it didn't. Yeah, yeah, that's how I used to teach because, um, I never had formal dance training, I just learned off university, youtube, right. So everything was, um, they would do like this is one like five, six, seven, eight, one e and a two e and a clicky three, four, five, whatever. I'm just whatever. I'm just like, oh fuck this, click, click, boom, boom, click, click, boom. You know so, oh, my God, when you're choreographing these things, right, and you have these females there, do you have any male dancers there? Has there ever been like static and you don't have to drop names? But male dancers and female dancers, you ever see them, like you know, canoodle or mingle with each other?
Speaker 2So that's so funny that you bring that up, because most of our boys that we have are brought in because of the girls, because they're like that's their boyfriend oh. Yeah, so we don't have anybody who like seen each other in class and like each other you know, yeah, Not as of lately, but like back in the in a day.
Speaker 1yeah, we used to could you tell that there was drama going on when, when there's practice and you're like oh, they're fighting.
Speaker 2Stand guy.
Speaker 1No, yeah, literally really feel the vibe uh, professional, were they professional about it or yeah, could? You tell like man, we hey, y'all need to just stop right now.
Speaker 2No, yeah, because we know them. Obviously we could feel the vibe. But they would still just practice and keep it professional.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh, I remember because I was mingling with a woman she's my wife now but when we would dance together and when we would have our spats, I would just stay on one side of the room, I would do the choreo and everything, but I wouldn't talk. I'm just like just rolling my eyes and everything. And then, you know, when it comes to formations and I have to stand next to her, I'm just like I'm trying to touch. You know, I ain't trying to touch her, whatever, but I mean people can feel the vibe and it's what's that word? It's not, the word's not it's not unselling, but it's a fuck.
Speaker 1You know what it's, just you just don't want to be around it. Yeah, girl, let's get to these questions, and we already, nate. We already did some of these. Okay, here's a good one how to handle the next step in our relationship. Conversation, like, how do you handle what's the next step in our relationship?
Speaker 2Like from talking to becoming in a relationship.
Speaker 1Yeah, we could talk about that and also like if you're in the relationship and like, oh, what's next for us? Yeah, that conversation after that.
Speaker 2So when you're in a talking stage, Talking stage yeah, I don't know. I feel like the most months you should be in a talking stage is probably like three to four months three to four months of talking.
Speaker 1And what does this talking consist of?
Speaker 2just like texting, seeing each other here and there, and then the boy should be like okay, will, will you be my girlfriend? But I feel like nowadays nobody does that.
Speaker 1They don't.
Speaker 2And I'm just like why.
Speaker 1Do you think it's because guys are one social media right? Yeah, two, I think now they're a little too proud to ask. They want the woman to ask like would you be my man to ask. They want the woman to ask like, would you be my man, you know, I think? I think those are like the two main reasons why guys aren't like hey would you be my girl?
Speaker 2I feel like the roles are like reversing and it's so sad it is.
Speaker 1It is because I asked you know, like when it was me, it would be me asking like hey, would you be my girl? Like where are we going with this? Are you my girl, or like, and if I'm not asking the question, it's like you're my girl now, right?
Speaker 2yeah, right, yeah, I think it's just more proper to ask you know, just not assume, you know oh, facts yeah during the talking stages.
Speaker 1is there, um, could the man or the woman, could they like overdo it? Is there a way that they can and be like, like, let's say, you say the texting right, could they over? Or the woman, could they like overdo it? Is there a way that they can and be like, oh Like, let's say, you say the texting right, could they overdo the text?
Speaker 2Oh, like texting constantly Like to where they can't breathe. Yes, yeah, yeah, Because, like, this is the time where you're still like getting to know the person You're not boyfriend and girlfriend.
Speaker 1So some people expect to text like all the time. But I don't know for me, I'm really bad at texting. So are you as in like you have a 24 hour time limit text, or like you'll see it and you're like, okay, I'll text you back when I'm done doing this, and then you just totally forget yes, yes, and I respond in my head.
Speaker 1I'm like oh my gosh, I forgot to respond uh, so are you apologetic when you text back like dude? I'm so sorry, I thought I did text you, but no man, I ain't doing nothing today.
Speaker 2No, yeah, I am very apologetic on it, but it could be annoying from, like, the guy's perspective. You know, it may seem like I'm not interested, but I'm actually just super busy.
Speaker 1Do you prefer a call or a FaceTime?
Speaker 2Yes, a call.
Speaker 1I'm a call FaceTime person too, usually more FaceTime because I'm just like motherfucker, you're lying, you ain't here, let me see. But I like calling because I could tell like if. I'm like say if, because usually I try to stay on the phone for like a minute so I could just get my point across. But if I'm, if I know in my head that it might be like a two, three minute conversation and it's like I could hear the tone if the person's like in it, you know, like with it or not.
Speaker 2So yeah, yeah, Because when you're texting someone, you could definitely misread it.
Speaker 1Uh-huh.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Dating Multiple People Isn't Wrong
Speaker 1Like you could. An okay could be like okay or a okay yeah, you never know Definitely. And then so still in the talking stages. How about the meetups?
Speaker 2The meetups.
Speaker 1Yeah, like when you're seeing each other.
Speaker 2Going out on dates.
Speaker 1Yeah, could you overdo that dating part?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, I feel like you can. I feel like this is the time where you want to Impress the girl, you know, but not like treat her like your girlfriend.
Speaker 1How does one From a female's point of view, how does one do that like, uh, I guess, treat you well, take you out, but not you're.
Speaker 2Hey, you ain't my girl yet yeah, this is so crazy that we're talking about this. Why? Because something just recently happened. Yeah, just a couple weeks ago. This is so t it's not my fault that my body and everyone wants it so, yeah, so a couple weeks ago I actually had this boy I was in a long distance talking relationship with, and then he came to vegas to visit me and talking, talking about it. Now, like my perspective has changed, but in the moment I just wanted him to treat me like a girlfriend, you know.
Speaker 1But you guys were in the talking stage.
Speaker 2We were just in the talking stage.
Speaker 1Okay, so nothing official.
Speaker 2So nothing official.
Speaker 1Got you okay.
Speaker 2I was just expecting like the world out of it, you know, yeah. But now that I'm on the other side and I see from his perspectives to why he didn't do certain things, I'm just like, oh dang, I did overdo it.
Speaker 1What was the things that you expected him to do Like? So the things that already should have been done is this whole chivalrous thing Opening the doors, pulling your seat, paying, you know, at least paying 65% of the dinner. You know, like it's like about the opening the door.
Speaker 2OK, so when he first came to see me, we were going to go to the gym together. Ok so he came to pick me up and I was expecting this grand thing where we're going to run into each other's arms and hug each other or he's actually, or he'll actually go to my door, you know. But he just texted me here and expected me to walk to the door or walk to the car, and I had to open the door on my own.
Speaker 1Mama and daddy didn't raise him right, see, because I would have done. I would have walked up to your door knocked, like, hey, how's it going Right?
Speaker 2A little brief talk, make sure your door's locked and then walk you to the door open, that's what I'm saying, but when I did bring that up, he made it seem like I was asking for too much no, that wasn't too much, that's just that should be like bare minimum.
Speaker 1That's yeah, bare minimum, default. Y'all need to listen okay next we're talking about. I love it so next what happened? Like what happened after that.
Speaker 2So after that we went to the gym and, you know, everything was good. But yeah, we went out to dinner that next night and he just didn't do things that I expected. We were talking for two months, you know. So I was like, okay, he's going to ask me to be his girlfriend.
Speaker 1But I think that's my mistake, where I just had this high expectation of him, you know uh-huh so so yeah, he just didn't do anything grand for me what would be grand, like what's a yeah for hokalani, what's grand. I uh I guess I'm not catching the grand thing like.
Speaker 2If so, he messed up on being chivalrous yeah um, what was like the final straw to where it's like yo, he's not gonna be, he ain't it the final straw was that, right when we left each other, he started following girls that lives in his, in his area.
Speaker 1Following as in like on IG.
Speaker 2On TikTok.
Speaker 1Okay, Wait hold up, so that bothered you. Like him following other women, yeah.
Speaker 2I wouldn't care if it was like a couple days later or like the next week, but the fact that he did it as we were saying goodbye to one another. You know, I just had a good goodbye to one another, you know, I just had a good time with you, you know yeah and he just started following girls. So I was like oh, maybe this isn't my person that was your red flag yeah oh, I know, but I'm also a red flag.
Speaker 2I'm gonna take accountability. I shouldn't be looking at that stuff if we're just in the talking stage yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1You're like, oh, who's he following? So you, you are you like that now, or did you used to be like that?
Speaker 2to check up on so, yeah, I used to be like that uh-huh. Keep in mind this was like a couple weeks ago, but I've, I'm starting to work on it. You know, I don't think I will ever do that again why does that bother women?
Speaker 1Because I used to be in that years, years ago. I used to be in that same situation, to where the woman that I'm with my wife, she would trip out on like who I'm following and who's following me, yeah. So why does that bother women so much? Because for guys it's like oh, you're following him, oh, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, whatever whatever cool cool, and we just go in the gym and hit it a little bit harder, you know, and never say nothing.
Speaker 2But with women like why, why is that? I don't know. We just want to feel like a priority to you guys if you're following all these girls. Obviously you're going to see them all over your, your page, you know okay so I don't know, I just see that okay we just want to feel wanted and yearned over, you know. So if we see that you're following so many girls, we're like, okay, well, your eyes are still on these other people uh-huh so why are we talking?
Love Island and Social Media Status
Speaker 1you know, oh, what if this person and I'm gonna play devil's advocate for a little bit what if this person was like, let's say, in the social media scene, like he's a you know influencer, slash content creator and he's, you know, getting these females because, you know, because of clout, or because, oh, this is an opportunity for him to like, get him to an audience that he's not reaching out to? How would that?
Speaker 2if he, if it's for his job, you know, if he's a content creator, that's totally fine.
Speaker 1Okay, was this guy a content creator?
Speaker 2No, not, really Not really so I'm like. Why are you following her?
Speaker 1Ah, he fumbled that bag.
Speaker 2It just sucks because we were in a long distance, you know, and the fact that he followed girls in his city like just kind of stung a bit. Oh yeah, oh, yeah, that's, oh, um, where's he?
Speaker 1coming from arizona and you're in las vegas, ain't that like a like a three-hour drive or some shit? It's literally so close, huh and dude, I would see you like every weekend.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, because I've had a long distance relationship where it was california and Las Vegas and I drove like at least once a month. You know I made that drive because I didn't want to fly, kind of scared. But I drove that what that? Six, seven hours, just for like that day and a half, and then drove back but yeah, oh, two, three hours is nothing. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1I feel like, man, I could just chill at a motel, six or some shit, and just right, I'll let you tomorrow, girl. But I don't know, I I guess I was just asking too much of him. Ah, man, I think asking too much is when, like I guess a feet, a woman is, I want to say just like, just totally up in your business, like, oh, why, why, when, when, why, why, why? I think it's all like when you're in that talking stage and she comes with the whys and the wins, like a little too much. I think that's when the too much thing is true, but it's like so yeah, that was me oh really, you're like the win, win, win, why, why, why?
Speaker 2yeah, just because, I don't know, I felt the vibe.
Speaker 1I was like, oh yeah, we're definitely gonna be like locked in uh-huh so I was just like already in the mindset oh, we're in a relationship oh so in the talking stages, like what gave you that implication of hey, this is my dude like?
Speaker 2just the way we communicated with one another was it a babe thing?
Speaker 1no we weren't at the babe stage yet. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2But yeah, just the way we conversated and our life stories just connected.
Speaker 1Uh-huh.
Speaker 2So I felt so connected to him, uh-huh yeah.
Speaker 1That's crazy because it's coming from a woman's point of view and I know I've heard a lot of stories from guys saying the same thing. But you know, like from their view, but the woman's like, oh man, like it didn't happen for us and I was just like, damn, I wonder why. And now I'm not saying it's reassuring or whatever, I'm not happy that it happened to you, but it's good to hear you know your side of the story, to where you thought it was something but it wasn't, Because I'm usually hearing the guys like, man, I thought she was the one dog, she just I don't know what happened yeah, you know.
Speaker 2No, it's not that like I don't think that we can't be something. Of course we could be something in the future, uh-huh, but I feel like I have to do some internal work you know yeah yeah, before getting into something new. So my last relationship ended back in nove.
Speaker 1November of 24. Mm-hmm, okay.
Speaker 2So it's still pretty recent, you know. So I'm currently in my healing phase.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2But still like talking, dating, just finding out what I like and don't want in a person, Mm-hmm, you know.
Speaker 1Yeah. Let me ask you this then, when you're in your dating stage, right, does it make you some type of woman of the night if you're going on multiple dates but you're not giving up the cookie? You're just going out to find if this person is checking off all the boxes?
Speaker 2No, I don't think you're a woman of the night or a hoe A whore.
Speaker 1I tried to make it PG. She got it out of me. I'm sorry. No, I'm playing.
Speaker 2No, I don't think you are Like I said. You're just trying to figure out what you want and don't want in a person. And how are you going to find that out if you're only talking to one person? You know Exactly.
Speaker 1Because people like to perceive, like, because I tell guys I was like dude, go out. You don't have to like slang the dick, but you could be like hey, man, I kind of like you, but there's something about you I don't like. I'm not going to, you know, waste my time or yours. I'm going to the next.
Speaker 2Yeah, so you keep that mental note for the next person You're like okay, do they do the?
Speaker 1thing that I don't like. If they do, then I'm gonna cut it off. Yeah, easy, see, I hate the perception of when females do that, they're considered whores. When guys do it, they're considered whores too. But there's no like canoodling involved, right, it's like the most that you probably get is like a, a kiss on the cheek. You know like how we, uh, like locals here, they greet each other. Yeah, that's like the farthest. You're probably going to get Maybe a butt tap, I don't know. I don't know how it is out here. Yeah, that's the farthest. And then they're considered like, because the island's so small, it's like, oh, you went out with him.
Speaker 2And then you go out with him the next week and people are looking down on you.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're like in our single stages right now. I don't think we'd be able to survive like this type of this type of scene, because, I'm not gonna lie to you, I think in other people's eyes I probably look more like a, like a whore, because I like to go out on, like, say, coffee dates. I like to go on I do this a lot when I was single errand dates to where I get to get my shit done. But she would tag along and if she needs to get something from a Target she can, but I'm going to get my shit done Like I'll go grocery store shopping.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's cute. I like that. Errand dates are always so fun, right.
Speaker 1Because you can and talk to someone bad, you know, and you get to observe how they do certain things right. Oh, I was taught this at a young age where, um, you want to see the person that you might potentially be with when they're arguing with, like their parents or family members or their close friends, because if you see them arguing, you could. You could see that person when they're pressured, you know, because if that's how they act with them, they'll definitely how are they going to act with me?
Speaker 1Yeah, eight to nine out of ten times. That's how they'll talk to you that way. So if he or she is like super calm and be like you know what, we'll come up with a solution. You got a good one because when you two argue, it's like you know what. I know he's kind of solid because like he's not going to back off. He's going to try and find a solution and if it's not right, then he'll. You know like he'll keep on trying. Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah. Has that ever came across you to where you found like someone that was like God damn, he was pretty good, but then you know like just the stars didn't align right and you're just like yo, we got to like cut it off.
Speaker 2So yeah.
Speaker 1Is that the November one?
Speaker 2That's my ex, oh, okay.
Speaker 1That's done and over with. Oh okay.
Speaker 2But the one that just most recently happened the one that I felt connected with. Yeah, I feel like that with him like he was good, like he was good to go, he was so good it's just me, I, I know it's so crazy I never take accountability, I'm growing, but you aren't. Yeah, oh my, thank you but yeah, because he's like older, um, he's ready to have someone who's like you know, not everybody's like completely healed, but is someone, or he wants someone more mature and they're ready and I don't feel like I was ready.
Speaker 2He also doesn't feel like I was ready uh-huh so we just came to the agreement like maybe not now but maybe later, if that's good as a line. Yeah if god wants us together, then we'll be together, but right now let me work on myself, you work on yourself, and then yeah that's super mature.
Speaker 1Um, did he bring that up or did you, or was it just the same?
Speaker 2it was kind of mutual okay, okay and then we said our final goodbye. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1So was there tears involved.
Speaker 2Oh my God, On my end, of course.
Speaker 1Oh, I'm sorry. No, it's fine. But no, that's good that you guys communicate that way. How old is too old for you?
Speaker 2Too old. I want to date older than 35.
Speaker 135 years older than you or 30?
Speaker 235 years old.
Speaker 1Oh, ok, well, I'm 25.
Speaker 2Uh-huh and yeah I think a decade older is fine.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, how old was he? Compared to you, he was 32. Wasn't that bad?
Speaker 2Yeah, seven years, yeah, not that bad.
Speaker 1Because, like saying, you know you get hitched, like you know 30 or some shit, yeah, 27, 37. Yeah, he still has time to like run with the kids and not like be sore. You know what I'm saying. No, I mean, like you know, because that's like one, one of my big things. Um, because uh, I'm all about fitness and like trying to be healthy and stuff, and I tell my wife this all the time.
Speaker 1It's like when the small ones, when they're like in sports and stuff, my boy, he likes to play basketball and football. I want to run alongside him when he's, you know, running towards the touch. You know, like I want to be, like come on, come on, get a catch me. You know I'm saying like, yeah, I want to do that. Or if my little one plays uh like say, softball or boxing or whatever, like I want to run around the mound or I want her to hit me and I'm me not get hurt, like that you know you don't want to be in a wheelchair oh hell no, because I know some guys right now they're like in their 60s and then I don't know how they're doing it.
Speaker 1hey, kudos to y'all. They're getting these like 20, 30 year olds right, and I'm just like, fuck, that mojo is hitting. Pop out a baby and they're like, damn, they, they're 10 and you're 70. Holy fuck, that's insane. How can you? You know what I'm saying. Get some Heelys, some roller skates or something I don't know. I don't know how you're going to keep up, but I know their annoyance span is just this short. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so yeah, when do you want to have kids?
Speaker 2yeah, like when do you want to have kids, or if you want to have kids I do want to have kids, probably within the next five years.
Speaker 1Yeah, girl here, not in vegas, but here here yeah yeah, here yeah I want to raise them here okay, um, we talked earlier and, um, she's living in vegas right now. I'm not gonna say where, but you want to come back here. When is this? Say where, but you want to come back here. When is this? Like one, why do you want to come back? And then, two is there, like, let's say, a plan or a date on when this move is happening?
Speaker 2So the reason why I do want to move back is because my family is here, obviously.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2And because I am a content creator and most of my content is all about polynesians, you know, I just feel like it's more fitting if I do move here, I could perpetuate the culture even more.
Speaker 1So, yeah, so mostly family and culture, and I also do want to dance for a luau out here we're as in like um, uh, uh, okay, a luau, uh, okay, okay, I got you, I got you, yeah, yeah there's so many to pick yeah, yeah I would just have to see which one like matches my vibe, you know yeah but um timeline wise, hopefully within the next year really that know Well, my lease is up in February, so oh, ma-ma-ma-mail.
Speaker 2So maybe February.
Speaker 1Girl, let me ask you this Besides like what's your content primarily on right now? Is it dancing? Would you ever venture out of that and do anything else, or are you strictly staying on that content?
Speaker 2That's like my niche.
Speaker 1Okay, niche, niche, sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2So that's honestly my money maker. Obviously, it's not all about the money. That's where I get the most views, so if it's working, why would I switch it up?
Speaker 1Facts have you ever or would you ever consider of like, say, being on someone else's uh platform? Like, say me right, I know I've been writing scripts, like comedy scripts and stuff. Um, if I would have like to say, asked you to be like playing the lead female in my comedy script, would you step out of your niche to do that? Or would you strictly just be, you know, put me down and say, hey, you know what I can't do it, I'm doing my stuff.
Speaker 2I feel like I would, depending on what the script is about, you know. Just because there are certain images that you have to try to keep, especially being Polynesian and growing up in the Polynesian community. We just have a different level of being more conservative, I guess oh yes, I've noticed that.
Speaker 1I don't want to say you guys don't have a sense of humor, but your sense of humor is it's more, it's more limited.
Speaker 2Yeah just because we don't want to just embarrass ourselves, but also our family, yeah, our village, you know.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2So that's so funny that we bring this up, because I've been getting a lot of questions. If I'm going to go on Love Island, you know Uh-huh, and they just do so many raunchy things.
Speaker 1They do.
Speaker 2I can't do that to myself or my family or my Polynesian community.
Speaker 1Yeah, I can't, girl. Let me tell you this because someone, including my wife, asked me would I ever go on Love Island? And I'm like, man, hell, yeah. And then she was like, and then I would tell her why. And my reason is you know what, if I would have went on one, I'd be where the food is, fuck that.
Speaker 1Two, I would definitely talk to the producers and be like, hey, who do you want me to be gay for? And I'm like, hey, try me. You know I'm saying like man, you want me to ruffle some feathers, want to make it like interesting, I'll pretend to be gay and see if all these guys would like maybe be come out and be gay. You know, just to like, just to, yeah, just to start one. And yeah, oh, my God, yeah, I would go on Love Island just for that comedic relief. As for hooking up with other women and I tell people this a lot I think I'm out of my let's fuck stage. That first perception of damn, she hot, I'd smash. I'm more into like the whole conversation, like I want to get into your mind, like your intellect, is more important to me.
Speaker 1Holding the conversation is way more important, and if I can't keep a conversation going with you, it's like fuck. I'm kind of like I don't know. You want to go get some ribs or something. Maybe we could hang and have, yeah, but you said, did Love Island ever reach out to you? Is that?
Speaker 2how that discussion came up. I'm just a Love Island obsessed, are you really?
Speaker 1Yeah, there's this popular girl on there. Huda, huda. What she did? Did she got dirty? I mean, did she got dirty, but was she dealt?
Speaker 2did she get dealt a dirty card or whatever for what's happening? Yeah, I definitely feel like the producers messed her up to make her seem like the villain you know. But she's just like us girls. We just want to be loved.
Speaker 1You know, that's what my wife said it's like she knows what she wants and these guys weren't like giving it to her. Or she would say something to where it's like yo, this is what I want, man. If you're not bringing it, say something to where it's like yo, this is what I want, man. If you're not bringing it, or like I'm telling you this now because that's the kind of man I want, because I have a seed as my. You know, she also has a little one. Yeah, she has a baby. Yeah, I'm not like real big on a love island, but my wife gives me like the summaries. So I'm like, oh, okay, and I'd be watching. I'm like damn, and not to be like. There's some handsome people on there. I'm like God, they're real. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2You look like AI, yeah, and then I see the women.
Speaker 1I'm like you know what they are right, you know what I'm saying. I'm more intrigued Like dude, that guy, one of the guys, yeah, it's, that jawline is super perfect. Oh yeah, the ab line is like dang. You actually see six, it ain't five and a half, it ain't four. It's like damn Okay, skinny ass legs though, but I'm just like, hot damn, where do y'all be fighting these motherfuckers, the casting was really good this year. Okay, I got to watch more, but what makes it so good than the previous years?
Speaker 1I just feel like everybody was a lot more attractive Like mentally wise, or just whole? Well, their look wise, oh really, could you ever do it Like, let's say, take out the whole, you know Polynesian thing, you're just you, you're not going to be disrespecting your village or your last name? Would you be able to do what they would do Like, say, pick a partner, every night you choose a different one, or you got chosen, lay in bed with them, maybe not canoodle, Maybe something might happen, but could you be able to do that?
Speaker 2100%. Wow 100%, I would.
Speaker 1Man? I don't know, man, because you know I'd be scared with my feet and they'd be walking like barefooted I'm just like dog if I'm insecure on my toes.
Speaker 2Man, let me tell you something. I'm insecure with a lot of things, man, but holy yeah, and they just walk around in a bikini, all all day long.
Speaker 1Yeah, see, man, I'm liking some basketball shorts and a tank top. I ain't taking off my shirt, man, I ain't trying to get sunburned, you know. I'm saying they are in fiji oh oh yeah, they are. So if, okay, hypothetically speaking, if they would have called you right now, would you be able to go?
Speaker 1yes, yes, a thousand percent oh my gosh, bring me back. Bring me back a burger, right, I will, hell, yeah, um, okay. So before we dip out, um, we talked again and you said you met a boy somewhere up there I'm not gonna say where, you know what, say where moanies, all right, okay. So we, we talked about moanies. I had a, I had a, um, a little encounter with moanis, and this is in the Kapolei region, where the Kamakana Mall, kamakana, yeah, kamakana Me and my wife went there one night and, mind you, it wasn't full or whatever.
Speaker 1This dude in the, I guess the security person, said it's like, oh, you need a reservation to get in. And I'm like, whoa, hold up, ain't nobody in there player. And it's like, oh, you need a reservation to get in. And I'm like, whoa, hold up, ain't nobody in there player. And it's like, oh, no, man, I'm sorry, when you need a reservation, I was like I bet never came back. That was my moana experience and I'm never going back there, oh my god. So you said there's one in waikiki yes and, um, I'm hesitant to go there.
Finding Romance at Moani's
Speaker 2So tell me about this boy that you met there and you're going on a date later on today yeah but you ate though yeah you know, hey, hey, girls need to get fed, yeah so, um, yeah, so the moanies that you were talking about is actually a restaurant okay but the moanies that I'm talking about is like more of a nightclub okay, in oahu. So yeah, I was just vibing chilling with my friends and there's this tall, handsome polynesian boy and I was like I gotta talk to that. But I didn't, I was too shy, so I told my sister. I was like can you tell him? Can you tell him that I think he's cute uh-huh so she told his friend, his friend told him.
Speaker 2Then he came up to me.
Speaker 1That's okay. So he made the move, coming towards you by the relay message.
Speaker 2Yeah, just because we were playing like eye tag the whole entire night.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, so he knew he's seen you.
Speaker 2Yeah we obviously liked each other you know, but after Moani's we did chat a little bit and then he said he was hesitant on talking to me because I look intimidating. I'm like I'm just having fun okay.
Speaker 1So first, how was your makeup like? Because my wife's a makeup artist, so maybe I could see where the intimidation came from. So was your eye makeup like? Was it smoky? Did you have the cat eyes?
Speaker 2It was just like this, just darker.
Speaker 1Okay, see, that could be. It Was your lipstick. Was it like plump red, Was it dark or was it?
Speaker 2It was honestly just like my face right now yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, and then did you have the flower in your hair?
Speaker 2I did. I had the Pua signifying that I'm single.
Speaker 1On the right side. Okay, you're a wearer. What were you wearing?
Speaker 2I was wearing a short skirt and a tank top.
Speaker 1What color?
Speaker 2Was my skirt. It was a jean skirt and a black tank top.
Speaker 1Okay, that's neutral. Your face was it skank? Were you like? Were you smiling throughout the night, or was there a time where you were like?
Speaker 2No, I have an RBF.
Speaker 1That's where it was. The RBF does it. For a lot of guys. It's like, it's like it's like, if so, when a guy sees an RBF, it's it's more like do I want to risk it? Or it's when it's like oh dude, she, nah, she's. She's strictly with her girls, she's not trying to get macked on, all she wants to do is gig on a dance floor, maybe get a little tipsy. That's exactly where his face would work. Okay, so after the night you talked with him, chopped it up. He said you're intimidating. I'm going to assume that you laughed and you're like stop, no, I wasn't.
Speaker 2Well, he said, my status is intimidating as well.
Speaker 1Because he knew who you were.
Speaker 2Yeah, prior.
Speaker 1What's your status?
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1Like single, I'm just a regular girl.
Speaker 2The right side says single. Could it be your numbers? No, he said status, as in my numbers on social media.
Speaker 1Man fuck that dude. You shoot your shot wherever, whenever One million, three million. Fuck that, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2If you see that, why not shoot your shot?
Speaker 1Oh my, God, I tell we're going to continue this. But I tell my boys every time it's like you do not know where it's going to lead, unless you shoot your shot.
Speaker 2Exactly. Do you want to go home regretting it?
Speaker 1Exactly the what if? Fuck living with the what if you don't want to die with the what if?
Speaker 2And if you get rejected, okay, so what?
Speaker 1Move the fuck on, grab yourself a Taco Bell, watch yourself some Family Guy and gig it up. You know I'm saying, oh my gosh, okay, so stat. So he was intimidated by your status. Um, and then how did the? How did he get the yes? Or like, how did the date happen?
Speaker 2so, um, we were supposed to go to another bar like he was like, do you just want to go to the beach? And I was like yes at night. Yeah, okay so we went to the beach and it was so romantic just y'all too just us too. We ditched our friends he drove. Yeah, okay, yeah, sober and everything sober, sober, oh, that's good, that's good that's real good. A plus uh-huh so we went to the beach and we're just talking all night long. And then he's like you want to get dinner tomorrow, I know.
Speaker 1Oh my.
Speaker 2God, so we have dinner tonight.
Speaker 1Where Do you know where?
Speaker 2No, not yet, Not yet.
Speaker 1If he says here, is that going to turn you off? Like if he texts you here and not go to your door, is that going to turn you off, or is that like okay, strike one.
Speaker 2No, that's fine. As long as he opens my door for me.
Speaker 1The car door or the restaurant door.
Speaker 2The car door.
Speaker 1Okay, I'll give you that one.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'll give you that one, you know, but he did yesterday, so I'm like okay.
Speaker 1He's good, we're in the good. He got mannerisms. Yes, okay, so you got dinner tonight. He likes to say the bill comes, oh, no, no, prior to that. Are you an appetizer type of person? Appetizer, you got the main course. How about dinner? I mean, how about dinner? How about dessert? Are you a dessert person too?
Speaker 2Sometimes depending how full I am Cool After dessert.
Speaker 1do you play the check dance, as so they call it?
Speaker 2I'm like no, I'll put my card down. And then he should be like no, I got it.
Speaker 1Yeah, but you could be like I'm like shaking.
Speaker 1It's like, damn, this is a lot. It's like I'm trying to pay this tomahawk man, fuck this. I'm just like gradually Okay, no, yeah, gradually okay, but but the attempt would be there. Yes, I respect women that does that. Do that? I mean yeah because, um, I've been in a lot of situations before where, of course, you know, like I'm down pain, like I'm 100, I'm down pain, but I would like to see the person across from me just like oh, and I'm like oh, no man, I got it, I got it, got it. You know, that counts exactly. Yeah, knowing damn well she ain't gonna pay.
Speaker 2You know, man but if that did happen to me one time, where I was like, oh, I'll pay for it, expecting him to be like, oh no, and he's like, are you sure? And I had to pay for it he didn't do like.
Speaker 1Oh man, you know what half seas no, like it's that type of? Is that type of era right now, you know, big girl energy it was like okay, you got it really, yeah, I would have like, damn, I would have paid for your gas or something. No, nothing, was he a gentleman at least. Oh, he got a free meal yeah, honestly, honestly, hey, thanks.
Speaker 1Honestly, honestly, hey, thanks, thanks, babe, check you on the DVD. That's funny as hell. So he does everything right tonight. All right, so I'm going to. I'm going to assume the long distance thing You'd continue with the long distance thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, but I am thinking about moving here, so it wouldn't be too long. Yeah, in February, right?
Speaker 1Hmm, okay, what is this guy's features Like? What made you catch his eye, or what does he look like for him to catch your eye? I mean?
Speaker 2Tall and Polynesian Tatted Oof so fun Tatted poly.
Speaker 1Okay, okay, okay, I got you. I okay, okay, okay, I got you, I got you got you. Yeah, just like every other guy on this island, but you said tall though. So what are you talking about? Like what?
Speaker 25'11 he was like 6'4 football player status yeah plays basketball.
Speaker 1So was he like big, big, or was he like muscle big? He was like like thick, slim, thick, or was he like muscle big.
Speaker 2He was like thick, slim, thick, yeah, yeah. So that's like a non-negotiable for mine. Now they have to be tall. My ex was the same height as me.
Speaker 1So, and I will never do that again when you have the heels on it's.
Speaker 2I'm taller than him.
Speaker 1Ah, but if he was taller than you, but with your heels on same height, is that okay too?
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Hey, my future kings. Hey, if this doesn't work out, hey man you know holler at her Short kings, short kings, make sure you have them platform shoes when you guys are going out. If you guys are going to the beach, that's okay, because you might have an advantage with the sand dip. Ain't nobody tall in the ocean, so that's okay, too Okay. And let's see this Move back here. Does this guy have a social media presence?
Speaker 2No, no, no.
Speaker 1Is that a red flag, or is that more of a? Okay, I love it, uh-huh.
Speaker 2I love it. I love when social media is my thing and then he has his own thing. Go ahead.
Speaker 1Okay, and let's say hypothetically I use that word a lot today you got with someone with a social media presence. Would that be okay with you too? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1He has his own audience and you have your own audience.
Speaker 1Yeah, Huh, I don't think I would ever want to be one of those, those um couples, though oh fuck, no, yeah, no hell, no I like doing my own stuff, he does his own things, yeah oh, preach on that, because I've been writing these scripts and, like, I've been trying to write scripts for me and my wife and I just couldn't find one. But then I finally did and it's like the where you going. So the script is is that me and her would be on the couch and I would go get something. And she'll be like, oh, where you going, and I'm like getting this. And then I go to the bathroom, get up. She's on the bathroom floor, where you going.
Speaker 1I'm like dude, I'm just finishing the bathroom. And then it's like I want some milk. All right, she would. She would get up, get something. I'm like, oh, where are you going. So it's like one of those things, but like, as like the whole couple, I don't see myself doing that yet Like the script, stuff is fine you know like here and there, but like being a full on.
Speaker 1Couple content creator. Yeah, oh no, no, definitely not. No, there's too many. I think I'll end up in divorce. Yeah, you know, or like maybe a breakup, because, dude, what if? What if your thing works more, better than this? You know her thing and it's like yo, my thing's been working, you got to be using my script and it's just too much static yeah, so it's best to just keep it separate.
Speaker 1Oh, definitely oh yeah, ok, that was fun. That was so much fun. That was super fun. Girl, it was Do you have any shout outs or anything, or where can these people find you at?
Speaker 2Okay, yes, I want to shout out my pupu, ori Tevaku Nui, living in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1Hey 702.
Speaker 2Yes and yes, you can find me on Instagram at Hokulani H-O-K-U-L-V-N-I, and same thing on TikTok.
Final Thoughts and Contact Info
Speaker 1Well said, ko Studios. Thank you for the lovely home. Rafi Baye, thank you for the lovely beats man, and with that I'm Chris and I'm Hoku, and we are out this bitch. Peace, good job.
