The REALationship Method

Comprehension vs. Communication & What it Means to be 'Alpha' with Alexis Renae

Chris Lomboy Season 4 Episode 84

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What does it really mean to be the "alpha" in your relationships? Alexis Renae, CEO of Role Models 808, brings her unique perspective as both a professional model and dog trainer to this captivating conversation about boundaries, communication, and authenticity.

Our discussion takes an unexpected turn when we discover the fascinating parallels between training dogs and maintaining healthy human relationships. Alexis shares how establishing clear boundaries and understanding non-verbal cues are crucial in both worlds – revealing that true leadership isn't about dominance but rather mutual respect and comprehension. Her insights challenge conventional relationship advice by focusing on the often-overlooked distinction between simply communicating and truly understanding each other.

We dive deep into cultural differences between Hawaii and mainland America, exploring how community dynamics shape our approach to relationships. Alexis opens up about her accidental entry into modeling after a photographer's cancellation led to an unexpected opportunity, eventually building a business that spans from Hawaii to New York Fashion Week. Along the way, she shares candid stories about navigating uncomfortable situations in the modeling industry and establishing professional boundaries.

The conversation weaves through serious topics while maintaining a lighthearted energy, touching on everything from the challenges of wearing rompers to nightclubs to the complexities of overlapping social circles in small communities. Throughout it all, Alexis offers a refreshing perspective on finding the balance between strength and vulnerability in relationships, proving that being the "alpha" isn't about control but about creating space for authentic connection.

• From accidental model to CEO after filling in for a canceled photo shoot in 2016
• The cultural differences between Hawaii and mainland America in community connections and respect
• Why comprehension matters more than just communication in relationships
• How military communication style impacts personal relationships
• The parallels between dog training and human relationship dynamics
• Setting healthy boundaries as the "alpha" while still showing vulnerability
• Navigating uncomfortable situations with photographers in the modeling industry
• How small communities can create complicated relationship networks when past connections overlap

Speaker 1:

All right 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. My mama, marilyn, Welcome back to another episode of the Relationship Method podcast. It's your boy, chris, and today I have a fabulous guest. I got a 2023 model of the year. I got a CEO in my hands. I also got a director man. I got Alexis Rene on this bitch, yay.

Speaker 2:

What's up? What's up.

Speaker 1:

Hey, how's it? What's up girl? How are you today? I'm good. How are you?

Speaker 2:

Oh, I'm dandy Good, that's a new word, that's dandy Dandy. Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, put that in your vocab girl? Absolutely, Hell yeah. How was your day today?

Speaker 2:

It's good. It's good chilling. This is kind of like woke up, got ready for this and this is all I planned. Oh, for real.

Speaker 1:

I was super excited for this. Well, mamma mia, hell yeah, I mean, you know, it's the relationship method.

Speaker 2:

It's the relationship hot damn method. Man Hot takes with the pancakes. So before we get going, miss Alexis, how did I?

Speaker 1:

get the yes from you to come on.

Speaker 2:

You know this little pod. I mean, like I just said, it's the relationship method, like I mean, who doesn't want to be on? If you're on here, I feel like you made it. Oh, for real. Oh, shut your ass, girl.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'm humbled. Right now, girl, I'm super stoked.

Speaker 2:

No, I just thought I was like, oh, this is going to be fun. And I mean like, who doesn't want to talk about relationships? Who doesn't want to talk about? You know, just talk story and you know, spill the tea.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, hell yeah. And then for our listeners and viewers, are you taking single Situationship Walking your dog? Oh, it's a situationship, situationship, oh girl. On this pod we talk about a lot of situationships because I know a lot of people go through that. Absolutely, oh my gosh, absolutely. Yes, per. And let me ask you how did you get into, like you know what you're doing now like ceo director, like modeling, like how did all this all pan out to you know?

Speaker 2:

it was accidental actually accidental yeah, it started out here in hawaii. Okay, so my business is role models 808, 808 for Hawaii. Oh, role Models, because everybody and anybody can be a model, whether it's like you know, we all inspire somebody. And basically it was back in like 2016,. I had a photographer friend and he had a model. Cancel on him, don't cancel on your photographers.

Speaker 1:

No way. Never cancel on your photographers, no way.

Speaker 2:

Never, because someone's going to slide right in and become a CEO.

Speaker 1:

Alexis, alexis girl.

Speaker 2:

But no, he had a cancellation. And then I used to teach yoga. Oh shit, Teach yoga out here, I was DOD. So you know all that fun stuff.

Speaker 1:

Downward dog baby.

Speaker 2:

Department of Defense. But basically, basically no, I did, yeah. So I was teaching yoga therapy, I was doing all this other stuff here on island and I was like he told me he would do yoga pictures and I'm like, ooh, I want some professional yoga pictures. Oh yeah, facts basically. Long story short. I ended up going there and everyone wears bikinis here, so I did a bikini photo shoot and I was like damn she cute, she cute.

Speaker 1:

Oh she cute, or whatever Period, and then long story.

Speaker 2:

Basically I have done like New York Fashion Week, LA Fashion Week, Miami. So I did all these shows, moved to mainland and now everyone's like asking me questions and my friend was like dude, you have so much knowledge, why don't you coach, why don't you do this? And I was like I don't know, I'm nervous, I'm nervous. But then basically I was like you know what? Why not, let's dabble in it? And then the whole business came up.

Speaker 1:

Ain't nothing to it, but to do it.

Speaker 2:

A little dabble dabble A little.

Speaker 1:

And then you and I were talking before and you're not originally from here, right? No, uh-uh.

Speaker 2:

I'm not native-born, I'm not Kanaka, nothing like that. No Hawaiian blood, I am actually Hispanic, so Spanish, mexican, portuguese and Brazilian.

Speaker 1:

Oh shit, hola que tal.

Speaker 2:

Si.

Speaker 1:

Oh, si, me llamo Chris.

Speaker 2:

Which is ironic though, because I probably I don't speak it fluently, yeah, but like I do know more like Pidgin or more Olelo or something Like I know that more than Spanish, but yeah, so.

Speaker 1:

So you've been here for a very, for a cool minute now, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So moved out here 2016 and then lived out here for a while and then met my boyfriend at the time and and we moved off island and yeah, oh how do you like it out here compared to the mainland?

Speaker 1:

Because for me, like growing up in the hood, it's like I like being the majority because I was a minority out there, right. So here I feel like, oh man, these motherfuckers cannot really mess with me. Because it's like, if you see, you know I'm not against anything, against my whites or whatever, but someone out of the brown color messes with a brown person. It's like you have 15 other people that will back up that brown person because you know.

Speaker 2:

Just because, Just because, yeah know, just because, why do you do that? Here in Hawaii? I feel like everybody either knows like your cousin, your mother, your auntie, your uncle or something, so they never want to mess with someone. So I feel like the respect here. I mean, since I came back, I feel like it's a little shifted and spreaded, because I mean we have other visitors and other things that are moving out here. Other things, other things.

Speaker 1:

Other things Other things. She said that Don't get me canceled, y'all. She's joshing.

Speaker 2:

I mean, they're all welcome, everybody's welcome here, which I will actually admit that Everyone is pretty much welcome here, it's just if once you like disrespect it's like a zero to a hundred, like 100% aloha, 100% love here. But the moment you do something wrong, you know yeah, then it's zero, uh-huh, but like uh, yeah, I feel like here everyone respects each other, everyone protects each other, everyone helps each other um mainland. I feel like I don't know someone's angry every day and then it's a different nuance someone stubbed a toe, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

They're just angry all the time and it rubs off onto someone else this is true, it's just. Yeah, I feel like I mean there's people angry here too, but I mean I feel like I miss here every time I'm coming back home and I call this home, because home is where your heart is. Yeah, yeah, I feel like it's a reset for me. Even though I come out here for business, I always feel like it's my reset, it's my refresh.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, this is yeah, oh, Hawaii's better.

Speaker 1:

That's beautiful oh yeah. Hawaii. No, I really like Hawaii. It took me and my family a while to adjust because we're so used to the cutthroat things on the mainland. You're all for yourself, right, Just to survive Over here. It's like, for example, our neighborhood when the tsunami. We had the tsunami warning right, Remember that.

Speaker 1:

Just a warning, Just a warning, Just a warning my block was having a, a barbecue and beer and everyone was like hey, come, come, come. I was like shit, y'all ain't tripping. It's like nah, man. I was like I bet I ain't tripping either. So but back on the mainland you wouldn't see that happening unless you know like you grew up with your neighbors.

Speaker 2:

But other than that, but even at that everyone's still kind of like to themselves.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Everyone's yeah.

Speaker 1:

Your family members are out here, right, I have some family friends out here.

Speaker 2:

I have family in Seattle.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Family in Louisiana. I have family Like they're all spread out, all spread out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, one thing Louisiana sucks because it's oh my God, I was there in 2023 for training and they said it's unique, it was super unique. Oh my gosh, it was really humid. Oh yeah yeah, humidity over there. Yeah, there were several times where I was training I felt like I was going to black out. Yeah, it was that hot. It's like sticky humid.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was that hot. It's like sticky humid.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's not like this.

Speaker 2:

It's not like I was about to say the M word.

Speaker 1:

It's not wet humidity which, I guess, is what humidity is? What was the M word? Oh, is that like so? Okay, some people get weird about that word.

Speaker 2:

I don't know why. I think it's weird. You think it's weird I?

Speaker 1:

don't know why I think it's weird. Like I mean, like you think it's weird. No, I mean, I don't think it's weird, oh okay.

Speaker 2:

I mean, like if you eat bread or something that's like, really isn't it like you?

Speaker 1:

don't want dry bread, yeah. Like, if you want moist, yeah, moist bread, yeah. I mean, I guess you wouldn't. I don't like that word either she's like oh, but it's regular across the pond In.

Speaker 2:

Australia or is it Europe? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Europe. It's a regular yeah, it's like a regular word to them. Yeah, but then they bring it here and when I hear people say it it's like oh, Because you don't hear a lot of people say that word. You know, on the island it's used a lot on the mainland, but on the island that's why?

Speaker 2:

why, if it's a foreign? When I say foreign, like not so commonly used, like broad was a big word for me at first when someone called me hey, you're just a.

Speaker 1:

You're just a broad, some broad, or something I'd be like. Like I felt like that was. I'm chilling with that John.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I don't think I'd be like oh, it's Alexis.

Speaker 1:

No, so I guess, like in the Midwest, a John is like a female.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, yeah, so if you ever, I guess, mingle oh you mean, like if they think you're a guy, no, no, a John. A John is like.

Speaker 1:

I've never heard this one, it's a, it's a, it's a more. No, no, it's a, it's an east coast Midwest thing. So if I've never heard this, if a, if a, if a brother.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

If a midwestern brother Say hey man, you know she's some type shit, john, it's like you, a fine female. Okay, so it's more of a compliment.

Speaker 2:

Now, I'll take it. I'll take that, it's like, oh man.

Speaker 1:

But I guess the perception of like, if he says it like negative, like man, fuck that John, then that's bad Right, but then if he says she's a stuck up girl yeah, but if they added you know aary adjective yeah, she a cute, john Justine.

Speaker 2:

I've never heard that.

Speaker 1:

Oh girl, you got to step out yeah.

Speaker 2:

I do, I do, I do.

Speaker 1:

Let me ask you this because I've been going through some type of. I've been in my feels like this past week I have a family member, right, okay, he's cut off, like a lot of like say, I'm going to say us there's specific people that he cut off.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And because of that I'm feeling some type of way, because I was one of those peoples right and I was. You know, I've had this dude's back.

Speaker 2:

He met a John.

Speaker 1:

No, he is with.

Speaker 2:

He's with a John he's with a negative John he's oh, john. No, he is with a negative John. Oh no, I can't say that because that might be your friends.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, we ain't. Let me tell you this he blocked me off of everything. So I'm just like damn man. So I have this pre-made text for him, right, I haven't pushed sent yet because it's in my drafts and I sent it to my sister because he cut off my sister too. And I'm just like damn man, Like I feel some type of way.

Speaker 2:

Not a family.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to say it's a family member. I can't go into detail because he's going to try.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, thank you for supporting, Thank you, thank you, thank you. No, but it's just I don't know what to do. I don't know if I should cut him off too, because I haven't cut him off yet. Right On my end. I haven't done it, but everyone else that he cut off, they cutted him, and his, I guess, his girl off too, yeah. So, yeah, I don't know Like my daughter cut him off and I'm like damn damn, she's like the nicest person. But yeah, man, I don't, I don't know like how would you handle this type of situation where a family member cuts you off and you're like dude, why?

Speaker 2:

but you're I think, sorry, I got serious oh, that's a good one, though, because I think, honestly, you're still gonna always be there, even if you're like, oh, I cut you off the moment something bad happens, you're gonna go back. I think all those people who cut that person off will go back, because I mean if you really love someone or if they're really that close to you. I think I think you cut it, but like not, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

You give the space yeah because you know you're always gonna be there with that person, like it's always in your heart, whoever that is yeah but you just I guess you just let them go through their phase. I always say, if something that I think is bad gonna happen, I'm like oh, I hope I eat my words yeah so I mean, like it sucks that y'all separate and they distant themselves.

Speaker 1:

But I think like he did the distancing, yeah, yeah I think they'll.

Speaker 2:

He'll recognize that and come back, or if there's something that falls out with that, they, they're gonna come back, or I. There's something that falls out with that they, they're going to come back or I had, since we're talking about relationships there we go.

Speaker 1:

Let's do this. We got into it.

Speaker 2:

I had a relationship that was like that. It was um, I was dating a person and their brother was cool with me. It was the wife. The wife didn't like me. I think she was just kind of jealous or something and everything, and kind of jealous or something and everything, and so basically she was always trying to like one up me or try to be.

Speaker 2:

And then one time there was a big argument and she goes, the guy, the brothers were fighting trying to protect us Right and everything. And and then the wife kind of stepped in because like I was like oh my gosh, what's happening? And she kind of stepped in and was like Alexis, let's you and I talk, because I know you and I have our insecurities about each other. And I was like I thought you were my sister. I never.

Speaker 2:

I don't have sisters, I have a brother yeah so I was just kind of like I'm getting like chicken skin.

Speaker 1:

I was like so wait, she said insecurities yeah and the guys are like yelling. I'm like we're like this way like were you insecure with her too, or not even close, yeah, oh. So when you heard that, how did you feel?

Speaker 2:

It was almost like a pause.

Speaker 1:

You're like what I was like, wait what? Yeah, hold on.

Speaker 2:

Like the record scratch yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

I was just kind of like, oh, and that's kind of where I figured out, oh, she's jealous of me. Later down the road, when we had the separate or the families kind of separated, separated, and stopped talking, it was about like a year or so um, which was fun. Like we ended up breaking up because I kept pushing, like you need to talk to your brother, you need to talk to your brother, you're tied up for another um and he didn't want to, he didn't want to, he didn't want to. But the funny thing is I learned later down like what all the back history was. I think the wife actually liked my guy first out of the brothers.

Speaker 1:

Oh, and she settled for the brother.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because my dude was married at the time, not when we were together, uh-huh, but like they were, like high schools, you know, they all grew up with each other, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was here in Hawaii, Hawaii you messy I like to throw dirt. You know, it was here in Hawaii.

Speaker 1:

Red dirt.

Speaker 2:

But basically dirt. You know it's kind of white, red dirt. But basically, um, yeah, they went to school together, all of them, and I and the guy I was dating was like, oh yeah, you know, she always used to like me this. Uh, whatever, I ended up getting married, had kid he all that stuff right, and then she went with a brother, so then my dude divorced all that stuff down the road. A few years later I then meet him. I become like a second mom to the kids, which I'm actually really good friends with, the kids and everything, oh that's good, that's good yeah yeah, but basically, yeah, come to find out like she would always text my dude saying like what should I do for him for Valentine's Day?

Speaker 2:

Would he like something?

Speaker 1:

For her man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for the brother, yeah, brother, yeah, yeah. And he would tell me like, oh, she would ask me weird things, like sexual things, and I'd be like you, this is weird, but like you know, but long story it was. I think that's what it was. I think she's always wanted my guy, that brother, not her dude, and that's what I ended up finding out. But long story. Basically, I kept saying you need to talk to your brother, you talk to your brother, and I made the biggest mistake ever. I was like I don't want to deal with that, but like I want you to be with your family. But what I did as a mistake was I took myself out of things. So like I'd be like, oh, why don't you go for lunch? I'm gonna go with my friends.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't go with them, right, I would give them, his space, but come to find out that's when, like, things were being talked about me, me, me, and then, basically, he started to feel some type of way towards me, and that's what shifted us.

Speaker 1:

No way, no way.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I got the family back together, but I got kicked out To your own expense.

Speaker 1:

You know that's crazy, yeah, if she wanted.

Speaker 2:

I think now, because this was like years ago, like maybe five years ago, I think. Now the other brother and that girl are divorced.

Speaker 1:

And is she with your ex-man?

Speaker 2:

No, uh-uh, he's with somebody else.

Speaker 1:

Oh, oops. So, Even on, do Not Disturb, it goes through. Oh, it's because it's on, like my personal list Hickaway, hickaway, it's my dad, but Hickaway, hi Dad, I'm with Daddy Leo, oh, so, um. So, when they were talking about you like, how did you find out they were talking about you Like? How did you get the word like, oh man they're talking about Alexis.

Speaker 2:

Like what do you mean? Like they were talking about. Like how did I find out they were talking?

Speaker 1:

about me. Yeah, how did they? Yeah, like when they were kicking it with their crew, with their little you know circle, and then you were with your friends. Yeah, how did that word get back to you?

Speaker 2:

mutuals, and I mean I guess it was a he said, she said thing. But it all ended up kind of the way it rolled out was like it made more sense. Oh, basically, like certain friends that they knew that I knew that we were all friends with still and we would go places. One particular person was like oh you know, like they talk a little bit about you, they always talk bad about you and I go. What does he say? Like oh, he's, you know, nonchalant and I go. He should be like you know.

Speaker 1:

Protecting you, yes.

Speaker 2:

But I think also the like giving him maybe benefit of it was like maybe he I think he wanted end everything worked its way out. He moved on. He has his family, he's married again. I moved on, I did my stuff. Yeah, the friends, mutual friends, were telling me. I was almost thinking who do I believe? Just the vibe and the shift.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, yeah, Are you really good at reading the room I am.

Speaker 2:

I feel like I am. You're some type of psychic girl oh really like do you ever watch that so raven yeah, are you raven? Yeah, I feel like we're gonna have a really successful oh, oh, my gosh, we are.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, we just got deep in there we did we did. Let's get to these questions, okay, all right, all right. So first one is oh, we talked about this. Some people say that communication isn't key, it's comprehension. Do you agree?

Speaker 2:

Communication is important, for sure. But, it's going to be like a round-around circle.

Speaker 1:

if you don't understand the communication, if the person that's receiving isn't understanding what the receiver is saying, whatever the sender. Yeah, exactly the sender.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I think, like and not like. Well, even language barriers, oh yeah, this is true.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

You don't understand cultural, you don't understand the language, or like English as a second language or whatever language you're speaking is a second language.

Speaker 2:

I feel like if you don't understand it, I mean like, yeah, that's going to be hard, mm-hmm. And the biggest thing is like when people say, well, you don't understand how much I love you, and the other person's like, how do you love me? You're not doing these things. And I think it's like maybe person here does love the person so much and they're giving 100%, and now they're feeling drained because, like, well, he doesn't think I love them and I'm giving, giving, giving, giving. And this person's like you're not giving anything, not because they're mean, but it's just because the communication doesn.

Speaker 2:

So I think also like just people's past, people, not to say like, enable certain moods but, like I truly think, if you love somebody, you take their bads and their goods and, like I think, oh, definitely yeah, yeah, and I think that's like understanding where it's coming from. Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Well so, like.

Speaker 1:

So I communicate with my wife like daily, right, like we're we're supposed to communicate, but, um, you know, me, with my background, I have to like I dump things down to where it's understood, like I'm trying to teach. So basically, the way I communicate, it's I'm trying I'm talking to like a fifth grader. No, I'm not like trying to downgrade yeah, she does. I'm not trying to downgrade the intelligence, but I try to make it like as simple as.

Speaker 2:

So there's no confusion. Yeah, yeah, no, that's good.

Speaker 1:

So, but she takes it sometimes. This is only sometimes. She takes it as a disrespect, because it's like why are you talking to me like I'm a little kid? I'm?

Speaker 2:

not doing that on purpose. It's just the way I'm trained, like the way my thinking is and because you're military. Yeah, yes, because.

Speaker 1:

I would want someone, if they give me some instruction, break it down to like the third grade level. So I don't mess up the first time, Absolutely. So I do that, but we get into our little scuffles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean it doesn't get to where I'm fucking divorced and you were some type.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Some type of way. But the way we communicate, it's, yeah, the whole understanding thing. She gets it sometimes, but there's other times where I have to like really dumb it down, right, no, that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

Because I think, yeah, again, that goes back to really, because, like you're going, you're working on that comfort, like, yeah, again that goes back to really because you're working on that, do you understand, kind of thing, but you're not going to be like, do you understand? You're not going to talk like that.

Speaker 1:

No, definitely not. So I would say my spiel, and then I'd be like all right, all right, I'm going to try and break it down. I'm going to try and break it down Before she says something. I was like, oh, let me try and break it down. And then third grade mode, right, yeah. So I'm going to ask you, alexis, because you are, you know, a coach as well, do you have to break it down that way or the way you present it the very first time? Your students, I guess, are they catching?

Speaker 2:

it students or relationships relationships or or yeah, relationships or yeah um, I think I, I, yeah, I think I do break it down to a point where it's like no confusion. Again, I've dated military, so I kind of understand that, which is very funny, because before I dated military also with the yoga therapy that I did I had to learn from some of the therapists and understand a military person, not to say I know everyone's mind. Well, I do, I'm Raven, I just called myself Ravenven, that's so raven. Um, but no, like I think, from learning again someone else's behavior and moods, like I feel like I, yeah, I guess I do kind of break it down a little bit, but what I've learned is like people can talk, talk, talk and then you, you lose what the person's saying.

Speaker 1:

I guess this is true. It happens to me a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah and so I feel like, from a military perspective, maybe you could say that too is like black and white. What's the point? What are you trying to achieve? What is the outcome? You like, you know, like I forgot how they break it down. And so basically it's like okay, what am I trying to say? I'm hurt. Well, why am I hurt? What did they do? And so I guess like, okay, I'm hurt because you talked to this other person. When I told you not to talk to them, they disrespected me. And then it's like well, what am I trying to achieve?

Speaker 2:

Then I could be like well, I don't want you to talk to them. Or if they do talk to you, be like hey, you know there's some like. And then you agree like that, right. So I guess it is breaking it down black and white. So with students, same thing. I'm like okay, do you understand? You didn't do this Because and it's easier with photos I'll be like okay, when you're standing like this, you just look like a stick or you look like a blob. There's no space. I'll take their picture so they can see it. And I'm like okay, I see it like example-wise, and I guess in relationships I do that too. I'd be like, hey, you know, would you like it if I talked to so-so-so?

Speaker 1:

at your work. Who's?

Speaker 2:

always, you know, disrespecting you. If I knew he was flirting with me, would you be? It's kind of like reciprocated, like put yourself in my shoes. So I guess I do always put with an example. So breaking things down is important.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then I guess, if, like, I guess, if there is love or actual caring, I guess maybe they'll try to understand your version. Oh definitely yeah, and if not, then you know see other people.

Speaker 1:

See other people. There it is. I liked how you broke down the military mind I thought you were going to say I broke down.

Speaker 1:

the whole thing of breaking it down, I mean no, you did that too because you know, as a military person, that's how, like we think and I think a lot of people forget, like meeting someone for the first time, they wouldn't know that I'm in the military, oh yeah, so I would have to say communicate effectively, saying, hey, I need you to really break it down, absolutely. Yeah down, you know. And they're like what?

Speaker 2:

It's true, though, because, also, like I know, the first military person I dated, my mom, was so concerned. Why and I don't think it was because it was a military, because we have military in our family. Yeah, I think, because you know she wanted to protect me and she was like oh, military people can be very mean and tough, and like it was a Marine, so but like I mean, and I guess like what you see in the movies and all that other stuff, they make them seem like these bad guys that are, like, emotionless and, if anything, I think military people have probably the most emotions we do and it's like, and it's not a bad thing definitely not.

Speaker 2:

I think with working with military and hearing their stories, and I'm talking like some of not. I think with working with military and hearing their story and I'm talking like some of the people I worked with, like Vietnam vets like elderly military too, who I think were trained not to share a lot of their feelings too back then, hearing them just talk story with me and understanding them, say like oh, my wife never understand, like they would just come to the. It was at the vet center. Shout out, vet center.

Speaker 1:

Shout out vet center. Shout out vet center. Hope you all listen to this.

Speaker 2:

It sounds like a cat Meow, meow, meow, meow. Calico get out of here. That was my new soundboard.

Speaker 1:

Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow meow meow.

Speaker 2:

Can we schedule a second one this?

Speaker 1:

is fun. Hell yeah, I'll put her back on.

Speaker 2:

Do the viewers want to see me?

Speaker 1:

again, help me, girl. Yes, they ain't going to have no choice. We'll make it a pajama edition. You know what I'm saying? I'll bring my spidey pajamas. Lensies no, hell, no, I don't have a lensie. How am I going to use the bathroom? You? Nah, hell, no, I don't have a onesie. How am I going to use the bathroom? You can wear a onesie. You know how am I? You know I have a butt flap to poop. But then, you know, speaking of onesies, we're going to get off topic. One of my friends wore a man. What is it called? Is it a leotard? No, not a leotard. Yeah, like a romper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of my good buddies wore a romper to a club.

Speaker 2:

right, On purpose.

Speaker 1:

On purpose, on purpose, just, you know, for fun. On purpose, yeah, and I was like dog, how did you pee? He was like oh, I just got naked. I was like so how do other guys like were you in a stall, or were you yeah, or were you like did you close the door? He's like dog, I was in a stall and he's you know, he's one of my black friends Like it's one of the things yeah, yeah, he's got a urinal on the wall, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, the urinal, or a stall, how do you just go down to the? And then he was just like no, dude, I just had to take it off. Your butt cheek's showing, or how did you do it? He's like all right. So the first time he got naked right, like you know, he took it off. The next time he I don't know how he did it, but the way he explained it is that he pulled it up his leg I was like dog is. I was like your member's that long dog? I was like damn.

Speaker 2:

Those are jealous. You guys have that ability, we that ability, uh-huh, we don't have those abilities.

Speaker 1:

You have to get butt booty naked. If you're yeah, Well, not naked, but no, yeah, past your ankle yeah, Kind of If it doesn't have a little baby snap like those snaps that are at the bottom.

Speaker 2:

What the fuck is a?

Speaker 1:

baby snap. Oh, is that the one like near the? It's not a little snap, it's like a baby snap.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, I mean, but still, those are annoying too, because you still have to like, you have to snap it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and if have you ever had wore a romper and you had a malfunction like a wardrobe malfunction?

Speaker 2:

Like what, like it like fell apart or like.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Unsnapped and like didn't go back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, unfortunate. I mean not unfortunate, I mean luckily. I was like unfortunately, huh, um, so have you ever gotten so wasted to where you're just like?

Speaker 2:

dude, I can't do this. No, thankfully, oh yeah, that's one thing I will say I mean I go out, I I'll have a. I don't drink drink. You know, I don't drink, like if I go social I'll have like a drink or two or whatever. But I've never been like super wasted. I've never woken up in my life and everyone's like, oh, you need to experience.

Speaker 2:

I was like I'm good, but I've never woken up next to a toilet good yeah and I don't know why people's like you need to experience life and I'm like I don't know, I'm okay yeah, maybe that's why I'm a ceo, I don't know because I didn't wake up next to toilets you make smart decisions. I mean I have fun, uh-huh, I go out, I dance, I have a drink or two, but like I mean, I don't drink to get drunk one, you don't remember your experiences are fun.

Speaker 1:

Facts two I mean it's dangerous and oh yeah, as a woman, yeah, even as a man driving.

Speaker 2:

So I had a stepbrother in Brazil. He passed from drunk driving. So that's another big thing. So that's another big thing though, so that's why I'm like when my friends drink or everything I'm always like okay, you guys, make sure you know, take care of each other. Stay the night here, do this whatever. But yeah, like I've never been one to just get super wasted one, because, yeah, also it's dangerous for girls too yeah, yeah, when you're out with your lady friends on the island.

Speaker 1:

how aggressive are these guys? Or are they little wimps? Because they're like they see, see you, and they're like, oh snap, I'm not going to have a chance, so they don't even bother yeah. Because on the mainland, like I'm not going to lie, we I can't speak for myself because I'm a goofy guy, so I use, like I use my goofiness, but goofy is a key. Oh, it is. Yes, use my goofiness, but Goofy is a key.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it is. It's a key to the heart. Yes, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow. No, but guys are like they're aggressive with it. Yeah, I don't like that. They're like, hey, ma, da, da, da, this. And the third? Yeah, I don't like. See how it works, you know. So how does it work with, like, the guys coming up to you or do they come?

Speaker 2:

up to you. I had one guy come up to me.

Speaker 1:

Congratulations, guy.

Speaker 2:

Well, he lost.

Speaker 1:

Well, he lost, but I mean he had the balls.

Speaker 2:

One I couldn't hear because it was in the club. Facts yeah, yeah, yeah he said something like whispered in my ear and I had a Pua in my hair and I didn't understand what he had said at first. Yeah, pua is a flower. For those who tune in that don't understand, because you know.

Speaker 1:

Right is single, left is taken or is it? The other side yeah like a wedding ring yeah, ready to mingle.

Speaker 2:

So basically I had it here, but the guy came up to me and he's all like and now that I kind of played it back in my head, I think that he said like why do you have a Pua in your hair? Do you know what that means?

Speaker 1:

Or something like that. He was saying something about the flower, right?

Speaker 2:

Was he a local cat? Yeah, okay, okay. I don't think anybody would say like I like your poo-ah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah right, poo-ah, but he said poo-ah though he did, so he had to be local. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dog face one plus one they would have been like poo-ah, I like your poo-ah.

Speaker 2:

But no. So yeah, I think that's what I after a while because he was talking to me. I'm like huh.

Speaker 1:

And he goes something something, something.

Speaker 2:

He tapped it so I knew he was talking about the flower. Then that's how I knew. And then I go, I, I go, I don't know why, because I didn't know what he was saying. And then he goes oh okay, so you're a fake. I was like, what like?

Speaker 1:

and he walked away like a fake hawaiian or oh, and then I was like what a loser rolled with me for a while.

Speaker 2:

I was like I don't get that. I don't get it. So I asked my one friend I was out with one of my guy friends, one of my best guy friends, and because all my friends bailed on me that day and my guy friend was like you cannot go to this place by yourself, so he came with me, yeah. So basically I told him that I was like that was so weird and he asking like to see if I was truly like single taken. Did I have it on the right spot on my head?

Speaker 2:

or whatever which I don't even think like real locals know what side either. Sometimes I'm like what if my hair just looks cute, flip this way and I want to wear it on the left side?

Speaker 1:

yeah right.

Speaker 2:

Why are you even trying to talk to me at the club? Because liquid courage does something to a man, mislexes liquid courage so I guess the question of guys coming up and talking to me, I guess, yeah, not often, but when they do, sometimes they just say dumb things.

Speaker 1:

I like to meet people more in zones of networking.

Speaker 2:

Not often, but when they do, sometimes they just say dumb things. Really, yeah, I like to meet people more in zones of networking or meeting people, maybe because I'm just business, I'm really business-y, I'm boring.

Speaker 1:

Oh, really yeah.

Speaker 2:

So let's say you're at like a we were at a club and I was doing emails for business, a Starbucks, my friend came down for that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, for real, you were doing that. Oh, probably on your phone, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was doing my emails because like, let me do my emails. I got to do this, da-da-da-da-da, and my friend's like you're always working.

Speaker 1:

That's good, though, like I mean when you're 50 or 60, eventually you're going to put the phone down and just relax and love life, you know.

Speaker 2:

I mean.

Speaker 1:

I love life. Yeah, yeah, I mean, who doesn't love life? Yeah I love life and work, I work like what did they say?

Speaker 2:

what's the saying do something you love and it will never feel like work.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, facts that is facts it is facts. So um your, your business, that's your nine to five kind of like it.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's like my 24 7, but oh, my fault, my fault, my fault, that's your, that's your main source to income, then that's what I meant actually.

Speaker 1:

Which a lot my fault.

Speaker 2:

That's your main source of income, then that's what I meant, no actually, which a lot of people don't know, my main source is I'm a dog trainer.

Speaker 1:

Shut your ass. So you're really keen with, like the furry fur footer, that's another way of my heart, penis and dogs.

Speaker 2:

No way If you want to meet me? Just I was going to say show me your dog.

Speaker 1:

Find. You can find Alexis.

Speaker 2:

I'll be at the Humeas.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you got to have a dog and then make sure your dog's name is Goofy. And then, yeah, oh damn See, you're hooking these people up right now. So, okay, you like dogs, you're a dog trainer. So when because you know I have I had a total of three dogs, now I'm down to one oh no, yeah. So one was just old, Passed away. Her name was Haukia. What dog was she.

Speaker 1:

A Great Pyrenees. I had her like when she was a wee little laddie, little tiny thing, and then on her twos like when she stands up, she's like as tall as me. So it was a mountain dog we had. And then I have another dog. She's half mix, husky and pit. Her name's Black Star, nice dog. She's still living, but she's old, like she's she wants to be active or no. No, she wants to be active.

Speaker 2:

That dog like husky and the pit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a good mix. I took her for walks, but when she was young she used to howl. Because of the husky, the husky, but now she doesn't bark. She whimpers when she sees other dogs, but she doesn't talk anymore, still loving. And then on the island, my wife and I we got this pit bull, but he was getting super aggressive after we got him snipped.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like, um, not the ears, but you know, down there we took his manhood. Oh sorry, dude, Um, he, uh, we had to give it away, or but he, he found a good home, but he was just getting too aggressive with the little ones. Would you rescue him? Uh, no, we bought him. He was a puppy. We bought him as a baby. We bought him at a store.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

One of those stores in Puffy Mill. Yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah, we got him there and purebred, beautiful dog. But once we got him snipped for some reason he was like aggressive.

Speaker 2:

He was mad because he still wanted, yeah, and he was like damn it, bro.

Speaker 1:

But we got him snipped like when he was young. So I don't know if you've experienced horniness or whatever. You know, like if you got snipped while you were young, like what is it? You know?

Speaker 2:

I mean.

Speaker 1:

What do you think it is, since you're a dog trainer? Why was he aggressive even after? Which is?

Speaker 2:

strange because a lot of people that has like the pit itself has like that. You know bad rep, but pits are one of the most loving dogs I love pits, but they are very territorial so maybe it was a territorial thing. I don't.

Speaker 1:

Maybe because during when we had the pit, we had the two dogs too still yeah, but the two dogs were female and he was the male was he was the male was he trying to be alpha, do you think?

Speaker 2:

possibly, maybe, oh, now are you an alpha with your dogs? Oh, definitely, everyone's always like oh, yeah, maybe, oh, now are you an alpha with your dogs.

Speaker 1:

Oh, definitely, and I know everyone's always like oh yeah, I'm the alpha, but like?

Speaker 2:

are you an alpha with your dogs? Explain so.

Speaker 1:

Because I don't let her go on the couch or on the bed.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay, so you set boundaries.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

And they know like never they think of you as the alpha for sure. Yes, they do say too to tell them to wait to eat. Put the bowl down and see if they'll wait and then go eat or something. And then they'll go and eat. It's because I guess in the dog world basically the alpha would eat first, like lions and everything they would eat first. I hit the mic, sorry.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, it's all good. I got insurance, we, we got insurance. Yes, ko Studios, we have insurance.

Speaker 2:

Come down. But no, they say that yeah, they say like let your dominance always. So basically you're saying like I'll tell you when to eat, basically, like I'm done eating your food, you can have the rest.

Speaker 1:

Really, yeah, and they pick it up fast.

Speaker 2:

They do pick it up fast. Some people do that with dogs, so I do dog sitting too. So some dogs it's kind of funny actually, because they'll be like oh, my dog is like this, my dog barks at other dogs, but when they're with me I can tell that they're going to want to bark at another dog. So when so I, when I'm walking them, I make them sit and I make the other dog walk past them.

Speaker 1:

Like at a safe distance. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

So I'll make them sit and then I'll let the dog walk past them. But the other thing is, when you pet a dog on its head, it's like dominating, like not dominating, but like it's kind of. It makes them uncomfortable, kind of right, because like you're pushing down on them. I never knew that You're supposed to stroke their chest, to give them like if you notice that, they lift up and you'll see that, like if you meet a scared or shy dog, I'm hitting your mic. I'm a dog nerd I get so excited about dogs.

Speaker 1:

I'm learning because I love dogs as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you want to like have conversation with me. Just let's talk dogs oh man hell yeah. But yeah, um, no man, hell yeah, but yeah, no. So if you stroke their chest, Stroke the chest. Yeah, like it lifts, them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've seen that.

Speaker 2:

It's like a dominance thing when, like anybody as a human or an animal, like, if you have, like proper posture, you feel more confident, you're not scared and everything so that gains a human's trust. Obviously you don't want to do that, unless the dog lets you touch them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's crazy. I like to pat my dog on the butt Like I'm like oh, let's go, I love that too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm like, let's go. I mean, everybody loves that too. Oh goodness.

Speaker 1:

Let me ask you so Dominance Alpha, are you the Alpha one in the relationship, or do you submit, or you know when to be alpha?

Speaker 2:

I love having a man of the house. I love that. I want to say I'm tradition modern. I love to have my protector, my man, my person. That's going to be that.

Speaker 1:

Be a man, a man, be a man.

Speaker 2:

Man be a man, I'm not going to step over him. However, if we're in, I think that's where the communication comprehension comes. Man, I'm not going to step over him. However, like, if we're in, like you know, I think that's where the communication comprehension comes into. Like you know, I think if that person truly respects me as their person, then they would also be like hey, they run things through me too, so but I always want them to be the speaker. You know how people say like oh, why do you let your man order for you? I don't let a guy order for me at a restaurant. But if we were having conversation, I'm like oh, I really want this. And he decides like oh, you know, she's gonna want this. I'm not gonna be like I order for myself.

Speaker 2:

Like I, I like to be taken care of yeah, yeah especially being a person who's always running a business and taking care of others. It's nice to be vulnerable yeah am I submissive? I think, think.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to say I know my. It's a time and place, right? Yeah, a time and place to be submissive.

Speaker 2:

I know my respect and worth, but I also know like, hey, you go you do so I think it's an equal respect.

Speaker 1:

The reason why I asked you that because it popped in my head is when you tell a dog to sit, wait for their food, right, and then you say go go yeah and then the dog, and that tells the person like, oh, I'm alpha, so my household, right, when it comes to food and everything, I let everyone eat first before I.

Speaker 1:

You know, like, but my wife is always like, oh, let me give you a plate. I was like, nah, I want everyone to eat first because I mean, if there's, I'm killing the leftovers. You feel me like if you don't get your shit now, oh, it's in my stomach, you know, yeah, yeah, so, yeah. So that's how it is in my household, like, I let everyone eat first.

Speaker 2:

I think that's also because you're a protector and you want to make sure you're, because you have kids right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you want to make sure that they are healthy and they're fed, and like you're like damn it, I want to eat, but I'm happier knowing my family will have food in their tummies. So you're more of a like a, caregiver. You know what's so messed up with? That train of thought is like when you were 50 000 feet up in the air. They say put your mask on first before before put it. You know, taking care of other people, yeah, and I'm like damn, that's so messed up, but it's true though. No, I thought that too.

Speaker 2:

And I always used to think that too. I was like, wow, that kid only has like a little tiny lung, though, like there's like one little like you know, but I thought about it and I was like well, if I try to put their masks on, who's going to protect them once the plane? I mean, if you all survive.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, facts, yeah, you have to put yours on first, then others yeah. It's backwards. I guess, when you're on the ground, you got to do it that way, and when you're up in the air, you got to do it the other way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 1:

When you fly, girl, let me ask you I love flying. Do you fly first class or are you economy like us folks?

Speaker 2:

I'm so. Last time Southwest changed everything, so Southwest no longer has the free. I'm a smart flyer, so I have my Hawaiian. I have of course not Alaska, because they combine, and then I have Southwest. Those are the best. Shout out you guys. Give me a sponsorship or something.

Speaker 1:

Hell, yeah, yeah, ma, ma, ma mao, we're going to go fly the man. I know one of you motherfuckers listen to this shit.

Speaker 2:

No, but like, basically I balance all of them. So also, like you know, because you get the miles and all shop. But basically so, southwest, I flew southwest here but southwest took away their two free bags. But so here's, you guys want to learn some something oh, so here we go for the tea okay.

Speaker 2:

So when you fly. So if you buy the small package, it's super cheap on southwest right, but you don't get your two free bags which you used to, which was a great deal, but now you don't. But if you go and buy them after, I think it's like what 25, 50 something bucks right. So like you have two bags, a hundred dollars. So now you went from like 300 something to like another 400 and then normally if I'm flying back home to hawaii, I like to get the internet, I like to get like all that stuff, because that's a long ass flight from new york to hawaii yeah so basically, you add all that on and I guess it just depends on your lifestyle, right?

Speaker 2:

You add all that on. It ends up being the first like the bigger package actually, oh, I never thought of that when you do that, but when you buy it separately it no longer adds your points. So like if you buy this basic package and they say something like because you know you earn miles every time you buy yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so the basic package I think was like six times per mile points that you'll get on your account.

Speaker 2:

But if you bought the bigger one at that time you got 14 times miles and then, if you think about it, you get the small package and then you add on all your additives. You don't get those mileage points anymore.

Speaker 1:

So basically it's like might as well get the first class.

Speaker 2:

And you get a free drink.

Speaker 1:

On a first class.

Speaker 2:

I don't think it was first class, because Southwood doesn't do that, but like it was the, you get a board first and you get all that other stuff and they give you a free drink.

Speaker 1:

Oh, which, again, I don't drink, but I get that drink because it was stressful getting here. Oh, I bet, I bet a handful of times, you know, yeah, yeah, and I love first, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

My friend flies first this whole time.

Speaker 1:

Oh really she's, you have all this space, yo, yeah, and I'm just like, and then you don't bump, you know, next to people and then you get to like stretch out. Girl and you can use the bathroom like Towels class. Before, at least one time I did, but I fell asleep.

Speaker 2:

I know, ain't no motherfucking story in that one lexus went on and she got up the person's like you slept like no shit. Like the person like next to me kind of, or whatever, like kind of next to me was like you slept through the whole thing. You must have been tired. And I was like, yeah, that sucks yeah, oh, girl, that was because. I was standby, so that's why I got up when's your next trip, new York?

Speaker 1:

when's New York happening?

Speaker 2:

so basically I leave from here and I go straight into New York. I have a day off, so I live over in DC. So I'm hybrid. I live in DC. I come back here every 4-6 months, oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1:

Thank you um so I'm hybrid, I live.

Speaker 2:

DC.

Speaker 1:

I come back here every four, six months, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know, I know. Thank you for coming on. Yeah, I'm excited, I'm so excited. No, is this? Your first pod, it's my second.

Speaker 1:

All right Cool.

Speaker 2:

First live pod Like our first like in-person pod I've done like virtual.

Speaker 1:

Oh, in-person one. Yeah, really Popped your first in-person cherry pod. Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow. All right, so you're going to New York.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay, my bad, my bad, we're bringing five models out here from Ireland with me, wow. So yeah, that's kind of like rolling into, like we're talking business. See, I like flip, it should be like business, the real business, the real business. But basically, yeah, that's kind of why I am hybrid, because I'm able to bring experience. I had to move off island.

Speaker 2:

I don't think everyone wants to move off island. But we're bringing some people back with me over there to go stay with me for a little bit. Then we're going up to New York Fashion Week.

Speaker 1:

Really, hey my NYC listeners man, hey you in Fashion Week. Just say my name. You see, Alexis, you should come.

Speaker 2:

Let's get Chris out there.

Speaker 1:

Hey, if I go man, you're going to see a lot of BTS action. You know what I'm saying. You're going to see me eating a lot Pizza. I'm definitely getting fat If I go. I'm getting fat.

Speaker 2:

That was like me coming here.

Speaker 1:

Oh really, I'm just all about the food out here, ube.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, ube, no one thinks I'm weird.

Speaker 1:

Let me ask you this. This just popped in my head. Okay, your models, yes. Has any of these photographers tried getting at them or tried getting at you?

Speaker 2:

I am really picky with my photographers.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

They'll know, because I shoot with like the same three or four guys when I come out here. Oh, cool and like uh, so those are like kind of like not only like my friends, but they've seen, like kind of the stuff I've done and everything, yeah, um, and it's so funny because some people like, oh, I've been trying to shoot with you. I'm like, oh, okay, you know I'll test out other new photographers, but it's more like once you build that relationship yeah, trust yeah, and the ones that I shoot with, they're really good and they're really respectful and they have it, but there are some.

Speaker 2:

There are some out here that will be a little nasty really, yeah, and it's kind of like tell a story.

Speaker 1:

Tell a story. Tell, don't say a name. Though don't say a name, but how nasty was this photographer?

Speaker 2:

well, let's just say there's, there's the, the thing where it's guy with a camera or Lexus. I got a Yoda Lyft, yeah they have a Toyota Camry, they got a Yoda Camry on dubs, on hubcaps, on hubs fucking 91 gas girl sub tweeter in the back.

Speaker 1:

I'm up dogging y'all man. Hey, don't find me and beat me up, please yes.

Speaker 2:

All the boys are going to be in the truck bed. Right Jump out.

Speaker 1:

They'll be like hey dog, why are you talking shit? I was like, no, no, wait, it's funny though, right.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I want you. I know how you kiss acid. I'm like no, it's funny, right?

Speaker 1:

He's like, yeah, I'm like all right, cool, I'm a funny guy, I'm a funny guy. No, but what they do, what they try to do, the guys with the cameras.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So like one time actually it almost made me this was when I first started modeling Okay, and it almost made me want to get out of modeling, do photo meetups and everything right and so there's a lot of photographers and it's so good to meet all these new photographers. It really is yes and there was one photographer I was working with and I don't do nude, but I'll do implied or bikini right like a like.

Speaker 1:

Is it called a booty? No boudoir boudoir, boudoir shut up lexus. I don'tus, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

We're going to get Chris in a booty. A Get me in a booty.

Speaker 1:

A man.

Speaker 2:

That's going to be the cover of this photo.

Speaker 1:

I know right, Booty A.

Speaker 2:

Booty A. He'll be like look back at me.

Speaker 1:

I know right T Girl.

Speaker 2:

Pearl. No, but basically I was shooting with a totally different photographer.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And I had this top and we were like trying to get the cute side boob under boob thing right. Okay, you know it's cute, but it's still like covered.

Speaker 1:

It's still classy. Yes, jinx, owe me a Slurpee.

Speaker 2:

So basically it had shifted.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So she was exposed.

Speaker 1:

The areola.

Speaker 2:

Yes, she was exposed. And then somebody was like, oh, alexis, alexis, we were looking for tape to tape it, yeah, and like when you move your arm, it like exposes, right, or whatever. So we're just trying to figure out. So one guy and you could tell the photos were not me posing one for the person. I was looking this way, the guy was over this way and my face was were like in mid-conversation with somebody, right, but he had taken the photos and I don't know if he still has them. I mean, I don't know, but this was a long time ago, like 2016-ish time, right. And so basically all the models that were at that shoot got one big file of all the photos and those were in it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he just uploaded all of them and I freaked out and I thought, without even doing the touch-ups and everything yeah, no touch-ups no deleting.

Speaker 2:

He just uploaded his card onto this doc like google file yeah, yeah everybody could go into it. So people saw, like you know, a little bit of whatever. I mean like it was showing, though it was a whole boob. You know, boob, it was a boob.

Speaker 1:

Lex is boobing it up. Your boob, your boob, your boob.

Speaker 2:

That sounds Australian. It is right. Such a boob, Such a boob. Don't be a boob.

Speaker 1:

Your boob mate.

Speaker 2:

Your boob. You're a boobie. You're a boobie. Stop. Oh my God, okay, so, okay, okay, okay, goodbye. Basically, yeah, and I was thinking like that was when I first met my boyfriend too, and I was like, oh my God, I cheated. It wasn't my fault, but it was obviously. He was just like but everyone was like, oh, it's whatever. And now I now from things like that and I tell my models too. I always tell people like you have the right to go and tell them like I want to look at the photos, especially if you do a boudoir or like implied or bikini or anything. I always tell them, like you have the right to say, like can I go through the photos real quick and then just delete what I don't like and what I don't like. And I've had some photographers like, oh, I don't know what, if I like it, I'm like it doesn't matter what you like.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, that's not fair, like I mean it does matter, but I mean like it's my body.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

What if like a guy or that photographer or whatever? What if he was walking around?

Speaker 1:

and I, like, took a picture of you balls. Okay, we have two. All right, it's plural, not singular. All right, miss lexus jesus they were showing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah like anything, because sometimes guys don't like, you know if their stomach looks weird or they don't look as buff or whatever, whatever it may be. But what if I'm like oh, I'm gonna post it, it's my photo, it's just a respecting to the other person, true?

Speaker 1:

so basically like that's why I tell people now I'm like, I won't shoot with anybody if they don't agree to that is it the same when you're um on the mainland too, like there's a set list of photographers that you mess with, or is it all different because of, I guess, the place, yeah, yeah, because of the industry.

Speaker 2:

I think with some places like I don't know, because obviously I'm not in every state, but like I do travel a lot, so I have my set when I get somebody. The other thing is they know how I like to shoot and they know when I'm uncomfortable about something or where my limits are.

Speaker 2:

So, that's why I usually stick with those people. But back in DC I have a lot of like my regulars. Yeah, Just sad because some of them moved. So now I'm just like sometimes I just sit and just like wait till I come home and like I smash out, like photo shoots, that's smart, so that's what I'm doing. And now I'm like smash just working. Smashing photo shoot.

Speaker 1:

Girl, I respect, you know y'all.

Speaker 2:

Emphasize that.

Speaker 1:

Photo shoots smashing the photo shoots? None of none of this, uh, none of this, um, uh, finagling. No, no, I respect y'all modeling because, um, I had a photo shoot here. It's like you know, just like my headshot profile, whatever, but you want to be a model dog? No, no, thank you, I'm too shy.

Speaker 2:

So was I oh, really I'm accidentally sexy. That's what I say to people. Like it comes, I'm a goofball.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, me too. I'm a goofball. I don't know if I'm accidentally sexy, but I'm goofy as hell Because, like when I was trying to pose, I'm like what do I fucking do with my hand?

Speaker 2:

Okay, tell a day and night.

Speaker 1:

Do I like this?

Speaker 2:

Have you seen?

Speaker 1:

Tell a Day and Night, yeah, oh yeah, right. Talladega Night with Will Ferrell, right? Aw, sweet baby Jesus with the long blonde flowy hair. I love the baby Jesus in the little baby Jesus t-shirt. Baby Jesus. Oh, that's a great movie, by the way.

Speaker 2:

It is. It's my favorite.

Speaker 1:

Girl, before we dip out, I just started this new segment called Confessions right, but that's what happens with the tangents.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, part two. Yeah, fuck, yeah, hell, yeah I don't know.

Speaker 1:

No because it's tangents, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we go through it. So the confessions, right. This is a real business? I know no, Because it's like late at night I like to fucking make myself three corn dogs, type shit. You know it could be embarrassing or it could be. If you want to really like be like soulful, Do you have a confession that you want to Confession? Yeah, a confession.

Speaker 2:

Maybe to a friend that you don't talk to and say, hey, I'm sorry, but I'm still thinking of you. Oh, that was on the spot.

Speaker 1:

It is How'd you like that one? And it's not even horny. It's not even a horny question. Very.

Speaker 2:

PG? There is, but I don't know if I want to say that to them.

Speaker 1:

Don't say the name, will they know it's them.

Speaker 2:

If you said specifically oh really, oh shit, I don't know. Well, your friend, I appreciate you.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's a good one oh, that could be to anybody. Oh um a, I just ruined it, alfred. Uh, she appreciates you more than you know I appreciate you to a guy it's just someone that was. Uh, we were talking and you're talking as in like getting almost getting together, talking as in like you were friends and something fell out.

Speaker 2:

Talking as in, like we had like a good conversation and it could have been something, maybe a friendship, or it could have gone somewhere else kind of thing, but like I think other people ruined it by saying certain stuff. One thing is Island is small.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And that's the thing, like I mean before we cut out, but like I think you're bound to know somebody who knows somebody, who knows somebody Right.

Speaker 1:

Someone told me that before. Yes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's like if you're dating somebody years ago or maybe like a little something with somebody, but it wasn't anything and you both moved on.

Speaker 1:

That shit. That something with somebody, but it wasn't anything and you both moved on that shit.

Speaker 2:

That doesn't count. Yeah, no, it doesn't. So, of course, if you just so happened, that person was friends with somebody else's friend yeah I didn't even know that other friend was born on the earth at the time. Yeah, I don't think that counts it doesn't, it shouldn't I think that person, um, they found, I think that person found out, and I respect that. There's's an uncomfortableness about it. But if the other person is done and done with someone else and then I met this other person like how I'm picking my people?

Speaker 1:

in the claw 50 cents please.

Speaker 2:

Basically, I feel like one.

Speaker 2:

You should have talked to me about it yeah I don't think they they've never really told me, but I, the moment I found out that they kind of knew about it. Um, yeah, I feel like that's. That's weird. I feel like it's a small island. We're probably and I'm not even on this island, which is even weirder. Yeah, I'm back and forth, so it's like for me to have a past with somebody that didn't even go anywhere and that person's like married, whatever with people, and they just so happen to be friends with you and I didn't even know you existed at the time. And then I meet you and then you don't even like want to talk about it. That's, that's weird you know what?

Speaker 1:

maybe that person thought that you wouldn't comprehend.

Speaker 2:

Maybe I'm a very understanding person.

Speaker 1:

You seem understanding. I am yes.

Speaker 2:

But then they posted another girl when they were supposed to meet me, so I was like no you're gone.

Speaker 1:

Red flag, yeah, red flag. Definitely a red flag, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It was sad because I really liked you. I really liked you Fuck it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you loser, you, you're a real loser dude. I mean, we chopped it up for like I guess, like the past 50, some odd minutes, right, and you seem, you seem, she cool as hell y'all I am. You see her. Hey, talk about dogs, you're an easy in, you're an easy in.

Speaker 2:

Are you a foodie too? Feed me. I was just going to say that, feed me pizza and ube. Let's talk about dogs.

Speaker 1:

Ube on pizza.

Speaker 2:

Ooh, no Pineapple on pizza. You know what? I'll try it. I'll try it. A knock in until you tried it right. I love ube anything, so I mean let's try it Cook for her.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to take a picture. I'm going to take a picture. Oh, word.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm going to take a picture of ube pizza.

Speaker 1:

Tag me.

Speaker 2:

I mean it could be a dessert pizza.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, yeah, oh, I'm down, I'm eating that. Like leche flan with ube on top, looking like a pizza.

Speaker 2:

With like condensed milk.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God Fat boy status Fat kid steez, fat kid steez. It's like our PTSD, I know right. Oh my god, remember that one time we had we had that fucking you know what. Next time you, next time you come on, we're gonna eat that. Okay, I'm being a bib, so I don't In your pajamas, in my pajamas, your pajamas. I have a table here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're like potluck style, just the two of us.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, potluck style. Just the two of us will have the ube with the litchi, with the motherfucking condensed milk. Oh my god. I might have to poop afterwards because of the milk. But it's okay, it's one thing that I will sacrifice my butthole. You know what I'm saying. Because they got wipes here, I'll use the wipes.

Speaker 2:

We might have to take a pause so you can use the.

Speaker 1:

Oh, definitely I'll be like mmm, hey, pause.

Speaker 2:

Gotta go.

Speaker 1:

Gotta go, gotta go. Hey man, lexus is kind of like a dude, but not. Yeah, the whole, yeah I'm a John yeah. Hey, she a cool ass, john. Cool ass, john. Hell, yeah, I'm an Alex Girl. Oh my god, tea and all that. Tea and all that. Hey, that was fun. Do you have any shout outs or anything before we dip out, or where can these people find you, chris?

Speaker 2:

thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1:

Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to my mama hey mama.

Speaker 1:

Hey mama, hola que tal Mi amor Chris, de donde eres. Si she said, yes, I don't know what that was, I just said oh, hello, I'm Chris, where are you at?

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Where you at.

Speaker 2:

She's in Seattle, hey. So yeah, shout out to my mom, to Chris.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much, oh, thank you, thank you so much, thank you for everybody tuning in because that's awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so much, thank you. Thank you so much, thank you for everybody tuning in because that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Cool AKO Studios. Thank you for a lovely home. Rafi Byte, thank you for the lovely vibes man, and with that I'm Chris.

Speaker 2:

I'm Alexis Rene, hell yeah, and we out this bitch Peace, peace.

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