Wing-Women Tactics and Friends with Benefits Pitfalls with Kace

Ever wonder how a new model goes from posting beach shots to landing paid shoots and brand trips without losing herself? Kace joins us for a candid, funny, and grounded conversation about building a modeling career from scratch in Hawaii—no agencies, no shortcuts, just consistent posting, smart tagging, and a clear sense of purpose. She walks us through what “pose with a purpose” actually means, how she vets photographers with her mom‑manager, and why not every gig needs to be cash if it strategically builds portfolio and access.

We also get into the dating side of a public‑facing life. Kace’s standards are simple and strong: effort, respect, and a good attitude. She won’t pause her career to soothe someone’s insecurity, and she explains why support and compromise are the bedrock of any relationship with a traveling creative. Expect real talk on chivalry, materialism myths, and the messy line between being social and being “flirty.” When she truly likes someone, she admits she gets quieter—proof that attraction bends behavior, and that clear signals beat guesses.

Finally, we unpack intuition, boundaries, and conflict. From shutting down strangers filming on set to keeping disagreements private, Kace shows what emotional intelligence looks like day to day: notice your feelings, pause before you speak, and pick the outcome you actually want. We touch on friends‑with‑benefits pitfalls, wing‑woman strategies, and how group dynamics play out in clubs and DMs. If you’re trying to start modeling, navigate brand deals, or date someone who’s building a creative career, this one gives you a playbook and a spine.

Enjoyed the conversation? Follow, rate, and share the show with a friend who needs a nudge to post, tag, and start. Got a question for the next guest? Drop it in our comments or DMs and tell us your biggest boundary win this year.

• starting in modeling by posting, tagging, and building social proof
• vetting photographers and using a shared calendar with mom‑manager
• compensation tradeoffs between cash, merch, and brand trips
• balancing business school, travel, and the algorithm
• setting boundaries with public filming and random DMs
• dating standards, chivalry, and not shrinking your work for a partner
• wing‑woman tactics, club etiquette, and clearer signals
• friends‑with‑benefits limits and future relationship friction
• reading intuition, avoiding public arguments, and cooling off
• posing with a purpose and leading with confidence

Transcript

Meet Casey: First Podcast Jitters

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Oh, really? Let it tell, let it tell. Welcome back to another episode of the Relationship Method Podcast. It's your boy Chris. Thank you for coming back. Yes. Today I have a uh a very lovely special guest. Um, she's a premier 808 model coming up in this modeling world. Um fuck it, we'll just get into it. Her name's Casey. Yes! Yes, we talked earlier. This is your uh first time coming on the pod.

SPEAKER_04 0:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

First time on a podcast, actually.

SPEAKER_04 0:37

First time on a podcast in general, so.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Popped another mum cherry. Yes, sir. How are you doing today, girl?

SPEAKER_04 0:45

I'm doing great. I'm a little bit sick, if you can't tell. Um, as in like COVID sick or like No no no no no I'm like just a little bit congested.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

Congested.

SPEAKER_04 0:54

Them allergies are crazy.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

You take that Benadryl.

SPEAKER_04 0:58

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

Are you finna go sleep?

SPEAKER_04 1:00

Oh, please, I hope not. It's gonna be a very boring podcast if I go straight to sleep.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Girl, no, it wouldn't, because I'd probably like draw some shit on your face. You know what I'm saying? Stuff on top of it for the code. Yeah, I'll stop stuff on her on her forehead. But uh yeah. Um, girl, before we get going, how did I get the yes from you to like come on this?

SPEAKER_04 1:21

Um, I watched a couple clips and I was like, this is pretty interesting. I was like, yeah, I might as well do it. My mom is my manager now.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Like she's auntie, what's good, girl?

SPEAKER_04 1:31

Goes through all my stuff for me and she was like, if you want to do it, go ahead. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna do it then.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

What did mom say? I know she like she saw some clips of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:40

She was like, okay, do whatever you want, just don't say anything crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Oh, of course, yeah. Your brand. Okay, hey, that's what's up. Well, thank you for coming on.

SPEAKER_04 1:50

Of course, of course.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Thank you for having me. How's your how was your week?

Modeling Beginnings And Brand Tags

SPEAKER_04 1:54

Um, my week was pretty fun. I've been hanging out with my friends a lot, and um, I had a lot of photo shoots this week.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

Really? Yeah. Photo shoots, was there a lot of people around?

SPEAKER_04 2:07

Um, sometimes there is how do you how as a model, how do you deal with that?

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Like people around while you're like, you know.

SPEAKER_04 2:15

I mean, I don't really I don't really mind it. It doesn't affect me in any way. I don't know. I didn't know what verb the correct verb is. Gang excuse. Sorry, my bad. Um yeah, it doesn't really affect me, but it does affect me when there's like random people filming me.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Cause I'm like, what are you gonna use for Oh as in like TikTok, Instagram? See he's like, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:40

No, like, no, like there's some people, like I was at a I was at a photo shoot the other day, and there was this guy like pretending like he was on the phone, but he was like looking down at it, and you could tell that he was filming me.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

Oh and I was like, Did you say something? Are you the type of person that would say something, or are you just leave that person be?

SPEAKER_04 2:57

Um, sometimes I'll just be like, I'll just look at them. Like, I'm not gonna say anything, but I'm just like, why are you doing that? Uh, this guy was filming, and I literally just put my middle finger on my butt and I was like, Yeah, I'll film that.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

You know what? As a guy, and hypothetically speaking, if I was filming like a person and I see the middle finger, I'm like, oh shit, she recognized me.

SPEAKER_04 3:22

Yeah, like letting you know I know that you're doing it. I'm like, hey, hey, girl, why are you doing it? I got it, I got it.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

If if if he would have done that, like, hey, I got it, I got, would you um how would you react to that? Would you be like, hey, you okay, or would you be like, hey, yeah, okay, fucker?

SPEAKER_03 3:40

I would laugh.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

Oh, would you?

SPEAKER_03 3:41

Yeah, I'll definitely laugh.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

Okay. And then um with the photographers that you work with, um, are these people that you've known for a long time, or are you going like random with random people?

SPEAKER_04 3:54

They're random people, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 3:57

Really?

SPEAKER_04 3:57

I just meet them like through other shoots and whatever. It's like when I do group shoots for some of the brands that I work with, and then I meet the photographers, then they'll eventually message me and just be like, oh, can we set this up? Whatever's.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

Let me ask you this. Are you getting is just all is this all for clout right now, or is it like are you getting actually are you actually getting paid, or what's the compensation for this type of uh so I get paid for some of them.

SPEAKER_04 4:25

Nice and then I get clothing and merchandise from others. And then with my main brand right now, so I'm my voice is kind of gone. Majestic. Um for my main brand that I work with right now, Ricewim, they compensate with with like literally anything and everything. They take me on brand trips. I've been to Big Island and Kauai with them, and I leave in the next few weeks to Texas with them. And in January, I'm going to Bali and Thailand with them. So that is my number one love you, Ricewim.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

What are they called?

SPEAKER_04 5:03

Rice swim.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

Rice swim?

SPEAKER_04 5:05

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Rice swim, hook me up. I'm a meow. Come on. Is it all uh women attire or they got guy stuff too?

Safety, Photographers, And Manager Mom

SPEAKER_04 5:12

Um it's all women's right now, but we're talking about um starting a men's line in 2026.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

Where? Um give me a shirt. Or give me a hat. I'll wear it on the pot.

SPEAKER_04 5:22

I have? Okay, yeah. I got you, I got you. Yes.

unknown 5:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

And then these um these random photographers, right? Since your mom's your manager, is she like doing her, I guess, like her little her her detective work prior to you taking a job?

SPEAKER_04 5:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

Really?

SPEAKER_04 5:40

I'll tell her because we have this like group calendar thing where she puts all my photo shoots, like time, date, place, whatever's, and we'll include who the photographer is on there. So like she kind of knows like who I work with, and I work with like mainly three people. One of them is my brother's ex-girlfriend, and I love her so much.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_04 6:00

She's like an up-and-coming little photographer. Uh huh. She got a million different things going on, but she takes some bomb photos. She took most of the photos on my feed.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Really? Yeah. Um, these photo shoots, are they bringing their own? Is it like the natural lighting, or are they bringing their own lights and everything?

SPEAKER_04 6:19

Um, some do, some don't.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:23

I had one of these at the beach, and I was like, holy moly. That's a huge setup on there, but it the photos came out so nice.

SPEAKER_00 6:33

Oh, I could only imagine. Yeah. If they come, do you like say after the photos, do you get to choose what is posted or whatnot? Or is it one of those situations where you trust the photographer?

SPEAKER_04 6:45

And it depends. It depends on um so some most photographers don't send you all the raw clips. Or um, they edit like a solid five to twenty-five, def depending on who does it, and then they'll send it to you. Um either I post it on my feed or they tell me what they're posting first.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

Mmm.

SPEAKER_04 7:11

Okay. But I mean, if they take the photo, I give them full range, post whatever you want.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

Oh, really? Yeah. Ha, okay. And what is your like nine to five right now?

SPEAKER_04 7:24

Nothing. I have school, so like I can't with modeling, especially for Rye Swim, because we travel so much, I can't have um a nine to five job. Because I was doing the photographer stuff, but with that modeling and school, I was going crazy.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

So really.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

What are you um going to school for?

SPEAKER_04 7:45

Business marketing.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

Wow. Hmm. And you're almost done, yeah?

SPEAKER_04 7:49

Yeah, I'm almost done. Hopefully. Hopefully, almost done.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

Once you're done with school, are you fitting to say, like, on the island still, or are you like you want to dip out?

SPEAKER_04 8:00

Um, I do want to stay here.

SPEAKER_00 8:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 8:03

But I will be traveling a lot.

SPEAKER_00 8:05

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 8:05

I do say that.

SPEAKER_00 8:06

That's good. If a man was trying to get with you and he knows about like you being a model and traveling, what's a disclaimer to like your future guy or gal, whatever?

SPEAKER_04 8:19

Um, I will compromise, but I'm not gonna stop doing anything just because you say I should stop.

Compensation, Brand Trips, And School

SPEAKER_00 8:27

Amen, girl. Girl, freaking power. Woman power. You know, woman empowerment. Hot damn. Period. Alright, let's get to some of these questions. Um, and we'll we'll we'll double dabble. Um, one of them was pretty interesting. She said that I'm interested in becoming a model. How and where to start?

SPEAKER_04 8:51

Honestly, just keep posting on Instagram. You buy clothes from a brand, tag the brand. They just like the attention that you're bringing to them. Recognition is everything.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

So when you tag them as in like a hashtag, or you tag them like their Oh really?

unknown 9:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

Is that how it works with you, or you it just um yeah, kind of.

SPEAKER_04 9:13

I mean, my first brand that I ever worked with was San Lorenzo, I think.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

What's the set what's San Lorenzo? What is that?

SPEAKER_04 9:22

It's a bikini company. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 9:25

I was like obsessed with their bathing suits for I don't even know how long. And so I had like a million of them. And so every single time I would go to the beach, and me and my friends would just be messing around, taking photos. I would tag them in my stuff. And then after they hit me up, then I shot with them like three, four times. And then from there I just started getting other offers.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

Really? Alright, so tips for becoming a model, just keep on posting.

SPEAKER_04 9:53

Yeah, just keep posting.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 9:54

The algorithm is everything, guys.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Really? Are you familiar with the algorithm?

SPEAKER_04 9:59

Um, a little. Teach a motherfucker. Yeah, teach them. But editing and everything, it's so hard.

SPEAKER_00 10:07

Oh, I know, girl.

SPEAKER_04 10:08

To just to be on it like that.

SPEAKER_00 10:10

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

It's a lot.

SPEAKER_00 10:13

Question. When I hollered at you to come on, what were what were like your first thoughts in in that? Um, was it like a creepy DM? No. Like at first, or were you like, this motherfucker trying to mom? Absolutely not. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:30

Definitely not.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 10:33

Hold on. Apologies.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

Apologies.

SPEAKER_04 10:38

Oh my gosh. Anyways, um, no, yeah, I seen it, and then I was like, let me go on this account, whatever. Because sometimes I get like texts and stuff like that, and then I'm like, are you playing me right now?

SPEAKER_01 10:52

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:54

Because there's a lot of like I have a lot of requests in my DMs.

SPEAKER_00 10:58

And it's like requests as in like for photo shoots to work with, or just requests to uh be friends on to message me in general. Oh, okay, okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

SPEAKER_04 11:09

Uh if I don't follow them, it goes straight to my requests.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 11:13

Or if we don't follow each other, it goes straight to my request. So then I have like a hundred plus requests right now. So I have to like scroll through and like see what is what.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

I feel so lucky that you actually scrolled and saw mine.

SPEAKER_04 11:27

Yeah, I was like, Yeah, I got um another notification from my friend. My friend sent me a reel, and then I accidentally tapped on my request, and I was like, I was an accident, y'all. And then I was like, what is this? And I tapped on it and I was like, oh, this sounds sick. I was like, okay, okay, wait. I told my friends, I was like, okay, wait, I need to like research a little bit and then I'll get back to you.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

Oh, okay, okay. Cool. That's how it I'm not a creepy guy. I just because when I reach out to people, it's the same dry ass copy and paste. Hey, my name's so-and-so. I'm a host of this podcast. Would you be interested or would you be available to come on? I mean, that's like straight up nitty grit. I mean, that's straight right there, right? Like, I don't have to add anything.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

Like, if people was asking you don't want it to be too long, because then people's not gonna read it.

Dating, Standards, And Chivalry

SPEAKER_00 12:18

Yeah. So straight, short and straight to the point. Oh. People are asking, are you single, taken in a situation ship, mingling? What's your status right now, Miss Casey?

SPEAKER_04 12:29

100% single.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

100% single. How was um, how was your previous relationship? Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_04 12:37

Oh, it was um we just moved so fast, like so very fast.

SPEAKER_00 12:44

Fast as in like you as met the mama fast or not?

SPEAKER_04 12:48

Oh yeah, like I was staying at the house fast.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

Like you had to toothbrush there fast?

SPEAKER_04 12:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

Ew! Wait, wait, how fast is that? How fast is fast?

SPEAKER_04 12:56

Like, we went on like two dates and then we're like uh fuck a talking stage. Um he pulled the will you be my girlfriend? And I was like, yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

He asked? Yeah. I give him kudos for that.

SPEAKER_04 13:08

But he didn't like ask in like a cutesy way or anything. We're like literally just chillin' sitting in his room, and he was like, Would you be my girl? He was like, Yeah, fuck this talking stage shit. Like, do you want to be my girlfriend?

SPEAKER_00 13:21

Really?

unknown 13:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

Would a woman like it more if, like, say, you say only two dates, on the third date, he takes you out and not even to dinner and some type shit, but like casually say or bring it up saying, Hey, Casey, would you be my girl?

SPEAKER_04 13:38

Yeah, I would like that. I mean, you don't have to be all fancy or like wow or anything, but like a little bit effort, you know?

SPEAKER_00 13:46

All right, a little effort goes a long way. My wife tells me that yeah all the time.

SPEAKER_04 13:50

And I'm like, it doesn't need to be anything special. You can pick me a flower off the tree and I'll say thank you.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

Like, what?

SPEAKER_04 13:57

So not I appreciate every little gesture.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

Cause guys ask me a lot if women are materialistic. Can you like back that up? Like, are you guys somewhat materialistic, or it's just is it's really the thought that counts?

SPEAKER_04 14:13

It's the thought that counts for me at least. Um, you don't have to go buy me like a bouquet or anything, nothing like that. You pick me a flower off of the tree, I'm happy girl.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Oh, okay. Why do you think women are like they become that? Like a materialistic type of person.

SPEAKER_04 14:30

Um, I think it's just a setting of expectations.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 14:34

I'm working on that right now. Just don't expect a lot because disappointment is real, guys. I'm not, I'm not saying I'm not saying to set your standards low, uh-huh, but I'm also saying be appreciative. Like, you don't have to be expecting a guy to freaking buy you a Louis V purse or something.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

Fuck no, that ain't happening.

unknown 14:56

No.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

He's like, no, excuse me. Uh-uh, no. What's uh, I had the question. Uh uh. You know what? Hold on. I had a brain fart. Oh my gosh. Um, you know what? I'll I'll go to the next question and I'll find out. You know, shut up. Um, okay. So the date, right? Wait, are you like actively looking? Well, not actively looking, but have after your boyfriend, have you been on any other hangouts or dates with other guys?

SPEAKER_04 15:29

I've been on one date.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

And is the date was it a legit date or was it one of those? Oh, it was. He picked you up?

SPEAKER_04 15:37

Yes, he picked me up, bought me flowers.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

Knocked on the door?

SPEAKER_04 15:41

Not knocked on the door.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

Hunked?

SPEAKER_04 15:43

No.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

Texted.

SPEAKER_04 15:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

Did he open your car door?

SPEAKER_04 15:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

That chivalry.

SPEAKER_04 15:48

I know.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

Do you like sh is chivalry like dying, do you think, as a definitely.

SPEAKER_04 15:54

I feel like a lot of boys these days, um, they want to be treated like princesses.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

I mean, like, you're like the third person that said that.

SPEAKER_04 16:04

I want uh I want a man to be a man, but I'll be a woman for you. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 16:09

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:10

Like, I'll cook for you, I'll clean for you, I'll do whatever's. But like you need to put in that effort also.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

What is the, you know, for Casey, what is the the man standard?

SPEAKER_04 16:24

Go to work, make that money, come home, and have a good attitude.

SPEAKER_00 16:30

A good attitude.

SPEAKER_04 16:32

Like, take care when you need to take care.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Okay. As a woman, let's say you're in this relationship too. Are you working as well too, or are you being the housewife?

SPEAKER_04 16:42

Um, I probably will be working. Oh if okay. If I got the choice, I definitely would be that stay-at-home wife mom.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

Like girl, I want to be a stay-at-home dad so bad. You have no I like-in dream.

SPEAKER_04 16:58

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

Yes, a girl guy could dream.

SPEAKER_04 17:01

Like, I don't know. Honestly, in this economy, I'm gonna have to work unless I find myself like a rich man. But here, I don't know. My expectations are not too high for a rich guy to just come my way.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

How about a rich Asian? There's rich Asians.

SPEAKER_04 17:26

I don't like Asian guys.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

You know? What's a what does what kind of guy does Casey like?

SPEAKER_04 17:32

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

Is it the stereotype stereotype Hawaiian local boy?

SPEAKER_04 17:40

No. Okay, so I like I like Hoppa boys, you know, like Hawaiian white, but I really I don't know why, but I really like them Afakosi boys. You know what does that what does that even mean? Um white someone.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 17:56

I feel like most of the guys that I've talked to are white someone.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Are you attracting them? Are you attracting are you attracting them or is it just it just happens? Like you you talking to those type of guys.

SPEAKER_04 18:11

Honestly, it just happens.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

It just happens.

SPEAKER_04 18:13

But then like like when I'm trying to talk to somebody, they end up just being white boys.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

Like, really? What what ethnicity are you?

SPEAKER_04 18:22

I'm I'm a lot.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

You're a mud.

unknown 18:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:25

Um, mainly Hawaiian Filipino.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 18:28

But you know, got some white and uh Native American and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

What tribe?

SPEAKER_04 18:35

Um Cherokee.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

No way. Is this a legit thing?

unknown 18:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

You know, on the mainland, if you claim that you're like Native American, I don't know the percentage, but you do get money from the government. Like they compensate you or something.

SPEAKER_04 18:50

Oh let me catch a flight real quick.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Yeah, exactly. I I don't know if they do it in in on Hawaii, but I know on the mainland, because one of my good friends, he's uh Native American, and his money is like I mean his money, his his family's like rich. I don't want to say rich, but they're living really good.

SPEAKER_04 19:12

That I would really like that. I want to be comfortable. I don't want to be living paycheck to paycheck.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

Oh hell no. No way. I learned like the hard way, like back in the day, I was living off paycheck to paycheck. I was like, no, this ain't it.

SPEAKER_04 19:25

So that's why girls, if you want to be a model, don't make that your full time thing. Because it's not really enough for that. Like you get a lot of clothes, merchandise, trips, that type of stuff, but it's not something that could pay for like support a solid lifestyle.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

So who pays like does the parents or your mom pay like all the other stuff? Like, like, say you're going to Bali, right? Um, is she giving you like some type of fund or or you're you're saving up?

SPEAKER_04 20:00

When I go on these trips, it's fully paid for.

DMs, RBF, And Social Misreads

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Even like the souvenirs that you want to get?

SPEAKER_04 20:07

Um no. Okay. If I want to buy like a souvenir or something, that's on you, yeah. That's on me.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

But the food and everything food, um lodging, housing, everything, and all you gotta do is just pose. Was it hard for you to pose like in the very beginning? Like, what do I do?

SPEAKER_04 20:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:28

But over time I kind of learned. Um, I actually just helped teach a workshop.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

No way.

SPEAKER_04 20:34

Um like two months ago, I think.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 20:38

And it was so fun, like, to meet all the new girls and like help them figure it out because it was like almost nostalgic.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

Do you think the modeling game in Hawaii, and even like everywhere in general, is it booming? Is it like getting up there because everyone wants to be one of them?

SPEAKER_04 20:56

Everybody wants to do it.

SPEAKER_00 20:57

Oh really?

unknown 20:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:59

What makes a model stand out?

SPEAKER_04 21:01

Um, your confidence. You have to know what you're doing and why you're doing it. And just pose with a purpose.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Pose with a purpose. Explain that.

SPEAKER_04 21:14

Like, know what you're doing. You have to know what you like about yourself, make that pop.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_04 21:23

Like, you like your face, make sure that you're giving the right facials all the time.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

How about for guys? Have you coached any guys?

SPEAKER_04 21:31

I have not coached any guys. I've not helped any guys. Um I think I've done a photo shoot with guys maybe like three or four times.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Like together?

SPEAKER_04 21:42

Yeah. Oh, actually, I did a photo shoot with my ex-boyfriend and I helped him kind of pose a little bit. Those are hard. Like, yeah, we're Especially when you're not like very interested in doing it.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

Uh-huh. Yeah, we're yeah, we we kind of suck when it comes to that. Um speaking of your ex-boyfriend, what made y'all like split if that's like not a Um Is it okay to ask?

SPEAKER_04 22:05

It just wasn't like we just weren't meant to be together. He uh told me that he didn't see a future with me.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Ooh, that's yeah, that's that's a bummer.

unknown 22:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:14

It was mainly because of my job.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

Of being a model?

unknown 22:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:20

Being a model, and I switched my major from um architecture to business, and he didn't like that.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

Is your boy was your was your ex-boyfriend was he a lot older or was he around the same age?

SPEAKER_04 22:32

Nope. He's only a year older than me.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

Really? And he was how do you feel about that? Like a guy like telling you, hey, I don't like this in the third, I don't like your choices and your occupation and whatnot.

SPEAKER_04 22:47

Um that sounds like a personal problem.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

Yeah, ain't it? It's like yeah, you want to have a supportive supporting if you want to be with me, you need to support me.

SPEAKER_04 22:58

I'm gonna be with you, I'm gonna support you. If I'm supporting you and you're not supporting me, this is not working out.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

Or a compromise.

Wing Woman Tactics And Club Dynamics

SPEAKER_04 23:04

Yeah. But he didn't want to compromise. Really? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

Um, was your ex-boyfriend insecure with you modeling? Because I know there's a lot of guys gawking. There's even females too. Females be sliding in models as DMs. Was he like intimidated and did he feel some type of way when you started?

SPEAKER_04 23:26

Some people before him were very, very insecure. But him, he didn't really like care. He asked me before though, he was like, Do you think I'm holding you back? And I said no. But then as soon as we broke up, my Instagram was booming.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

Really?

SPEAKER_04 23:47

Yeah, like I honestly started getting most of my brand deals as soon as we broke up.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Why do you think that is, if you don't mind me asking?

SPEAKER_04 23:54

Um, I feel like I had more time to post, I was focused more on myself, like I was very much more out there as soon as we broke up. Because I feel like I was confining myself more, like out of respect for him, yeah, to not post as much and not be out there as much as I could be.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

And as soon as he was gone, I was like Do you think um like say you were out there with like your man? Do you think it still would have popped the way it popped when you guys were?

SPEAKER_04 24:28

I was putting in the same effort.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

Oh. So he was just unsupportive, and you were just you were you were walking on eggshells for this man.

SPEAKER_04 24:34

Yeah, kind of. I feel like I was trying to prove that I was like enough for him, like the whole time.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Oh, really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:43

That sounds pathetic, guys. Don't don't Yeah, it really does.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

That sounds like that's I tell my daughter all the time not like not lower yourself for like any man or woman.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

Don't do it.

SPEAKER_00 24:54

No, no, no. You are put on this role for a reason. Let the light shine, hot damn it. On Reverend. Next one. Uh, here's here's one. How do you successfully flirt with a person?

SPEAKER_04 25:13

Oh what?

SPEAKER_00 25:14

Yeah. Um it's a thing. People are asking this.

SPEAKER_04 25:18

I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

Do you so your friends and when they see you with, like, say, an attractive fellow, have they ever said, hey, you're a flirt, or are you purposely flirting with Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:35

Um, I don't know. I feel like I just have a flirty personality. I'm not very like, I just be myself.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

Could your could a flirty personality, as in like outgoing, right?

SPEAKER_04 25:44

Yeah. I'm very social.

SPEAKER_00 25:46

Yeah, why is that mistaken to like being a flirt? Because someone told me back in the day when um like one of them, like what I'm out with my boys and my homegirls, and I'm doing my thing around the club or around the bar, and I come back, they're like, hey man, were you flirt? Like, you're a flirt. I'm like, motherfucker, no, I wasn't. I was just talking. And it's like, nah, there's like things that you do. I'm just like, no way, I'm just jabbing, because you know I'm kind of inebriated at that point. So yeah, like what you're an outgoing person, but they think that's a they think that's a flirt.

SPEAKER_04 26:20

I don't know. I feel like I just it's really easy to make conversation with people.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:25

Because if I'm interested in having a conversation, I'll have a conversation.

Friends With Benefits And Boundaries

SPEAKER_00 26:29

Oh, that's good. Can anyone have that conversation with you?

SPEAKER_04 26:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Or do you have that RBF?

SPEAKER_04 26:35

Okay. I do have an RBF, but I feel like I'm easy to have a conversation with.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

Amen.

SPEAKER_04 26:41

Like it shouldn't be too hard. Well, some people mistake me as like oh she's I'm me up. I'm sorry guys, I just really have a bad RBF.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

Oh right.

SPEAKER_04 26:54

Sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 26:55

Sometimes. Yeah, sometimes So Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 27:01

Depends on my mood. Most of the times I'm smiley. And then like if I'm not having it, my face is gonna show it.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

How are you when people like you're on the gram, you have a following, they notice you on the street. How are you when people are, like say, asking for your picture, or has that ever happened to you? Or hey Casey, hey, like are you saying hi back or are you like, whatever?

SPEAKER_04 27:25

Of course. I mean, if if you say hi to me, I'm obviously gonna say hi to you guys.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

Okay, that's good. So it's it's nothing weird. You're not like, oh, who the fuck?

SPEAKER_04 27:33

And I love like when girls support me on all of their stuff. Like I see some girls that I follow on Instagram in person and they tell me hi, I'm like, oh my god, hi.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:42

It's like a little boost of Yeah, it's a boost of confidence.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Yeah? How about guys? How do you how do you handle it when guys are that?

SPEAKER_04 27:49

Um, I say hi. Like, you know, I'm not gonna be like, oh my god, he noticed me. Um I'll say hi, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Really? When you say hi, is it do these guys, do they sometimes think of it differently as in like, oh man, she wants me? Or do they try and like go like dig further into the high?

SPEAKER_04 28:10

Sometimes, sometimes like I'll meet people in person, whatever's and I'm like, hi, whatever, have a conversation. And then later I'll have like a text and my DMs, I'm like, oh sometimes I just ignore it. I'm sorry, like I d I don't answer sometimes. But then other times I'm like like if I'm like cool with them, I'm like, you're funny.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_04 28:34

Don't do that.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

Oh, huh. My daughter says it's it's it's pretty girl privilege or something. And she tells me a lot that guys are dumb, like we're we we have one great relationship, and she tells me just like dad, I don't not you, but a lot of the guys they're dumb because because she's like she's real personable and she talks to them, ha have the conversations just like you, they automatically think like, yo, man, she wants me to get in them cheeks, you know? And it's like, dog, it's not that way.

SPEAKER_04 29:05

It's not that deep.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

No, it it isn't. Right. It's oh my, because um, oh my god. There's times where because I had you know, like I'm a good talker, I know how to keep a conversation going. People on the outside would be like, hey man, Chris is digging that girl, or you know, even the guy, Chris is digging that guy, and it's like, no, man, I just know how to talk to people. And just because I'm talking to a woman doesn't mean like I'm gonna fascinate, you know, I'm gonna have a fantasy about her like later on, or I'm like trying to get at her or whatever. And I just want guys to know, or even females too, that's that are looking in. That's not like the case with us. We we can keep like a civilized guy can keep a conversation going.

SPEAKER_04 29:49

I think when I actually like someone, it's harder to talk to them.

Intuition, Arguments, And Emotional Control

SPEAKER_00 29:54

Why is that? I'm more hesitant, like I don't want to say the wrong thing, but that makes you more personal, though, if you say like the Wrong thing, like last time I had this crud in my toes. Like you know what I'm saying? Like, I had this real fungus on my shoes.

SPEAKER_04 30:06

Obviously, I'm not gonna stop being myself. Like, I say stupid stuff like that all the time. But then, like, I don't know. If I'm if I like someone and I like actually want to like flirt with them, bro.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

You become quiet.

SPEAKER_04 30:17

I'm quiet, I don't know what to say.

SPEAKER_00 30:19

That's good, that's a good brings up to this next question. Why are women quiet or act different when they're with people that they like?

SPEAKER_04 30:29

I don't know, like it's a little fear inside of you, no? Like, I don't wanna show that I like them too much, I don't want to show like too little interest. I'm trying to find a midpoint, and that requires thinking. So I can't be speaking before I think.

unknown 30:46

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

For guys, when we like someone, I think it's oh well, I I think it all depends on their love language, right? Because with guys, if we like someone and if acts of service is that guy's um love love language, I think, you know, a simple, oh yeah, I got you lunch, that that's like a telltale sign. Oh, I kinda like you. But then again, like on a flippity flip, I got you lunch, could also mean, hey man, you owe me something. Here's like I'm here's my debt. Like I'm owing you this lunch, you know? So like don't get that shit misconstrued, but this is only when he's liking someone. But the whole lunch thing, yeah. Or like physical touch. If that that guy's a whole like a whole tap or holding, you know, like when you dab someone up and you hold that dap a little bit longer, that's uh that's a that's a sign of I kind of I kinda dig you, you know, because I've been in those kind of daps where you know it's like, oh shit, okay, cool. You know, even with guys too, it's like uh, but it's a playful way, but but yeah. Or you know, you have those ones that's like, hey girl, I like you. I'm just gonna act different because I like you. You know, has a guy ever like bluntly said, Casey, I kinda like you.

SPEAKER_04 32:10

Yeah, but um How did that happen? I mean, how did that one person that said that I'm not friends with them anymore?

SPEAKER_00 32:17

Why?

SPEAKER_04 32:18

Well, because they were my friend for a while, and then they just said that, and I was like, don't say that.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

Girl, let me ask you this. Why does it turn a girl off when one of their guy friends say, Hey, I like you? Like, what's what's behind that?

SPEAKER_04 32:34

I don't know, like we're friends, like we can stay friends. Uh-huh. I don't wanna why ruin a friendship or something that's not a for sure thing. But he was just shooting a shot though, and also he was not cute.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Oh. So I was like, So did you did you ghost him right after, or were you guys still friends afterwards?

SPEAKER_04 32:56

Um, I mean, like, we're chill now, but like after that, he told a lot of our other friends that he liked you.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

He liked me.

SPEAKER_04 33:06

And then it just became a thing. And I was just like, ew? No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

Really?

Confession Time And Closing Shoutouts

SPEAKER_04 33:11

Yeah, and so I was like, I'm gonna stop hanging out with you.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

So by him telling other people in your friend group that he liked you, that kind of turned you off with them.

SPEAKER_04 33:21

Yeah, but it was also like it was the people that we grew up with. So then I was like, no, like we're always around each other.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

So you were pressured, were you kind of pressured like, hey man, give him a chance? Type of situation.

SPEAKER_04 33:32

No, no, no. I don't nobody was saying to give him a chance.

SPEAKER_00 33:35

Oh, okay.

unknown 33:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

Oh. Well, well, good job. Hey, you know what? Good for you for sticking your ground, you know? But you guys are cool now though. Like he he could hit you up and be like, hey, KC, man, I'm I'm kinda sick, man. Can you hit can you get me some like diamond tap and shit?

SPEAKER_04 33:52

Oh, okay. We're chill, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 33:55

You're not that chill.

SPEAKER_04 33:56

No, we're not that chill.

SPEAKER_00 33:58

In your close circle of friends, if someone hits you up, are you able to do that?

SPEAKER_04 34:02

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:03

Yeah. So he's not he's not in that circle. How many people's in that circle?

SPEAKER_04 34:09

Um I don't know, to be honest. I don't really hang out with a lot of people that's not my family. But then like my guy friends that I've been hanging out with a lot. There's like maybe like six. Six people that are in like my close friend group.

SPEAKER_00 34:29

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 34:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:30

And they'll be able to hit you up and be like, hey man, I'm kinda hungry. Can you get me a Big Mac?

SPEAKER_04 34:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

Hey, bet. That's what's up. We need y'all more around.

unknown 34:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:39

I mean, because they would do it for me, so I would definitely do it for them.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

Facts. Hell yeah. One uh you scratch my back, I scratch yours, type of situation.

SPEAKER_04 34:47

Like my homeboy, he um he'll like pay for my food sometimes, and I'll pay for his food sometimes. Like uh we just be going out.

SPEAKER_00 34:55

Hey, work. Question about this now. Since you're going out with guy friends and you have guy friends, you just said that. Um, what's not stopping them from like say asking you or or like going into that next level?

SPEAKER_04 35:10

Um, I don't think any of my friends are interested in me like that.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

Good. How can you tell as a woman? How can you tell that your guys aren't interested in you?

SPEAKER_04 35:18

Um I don't I don't know how to explain it. There's just certain things like no. No, no, no. I don't know. None of them ever flirted with me ever.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 35:32

It's I don't know. They're they they just feel like my brothers.

SPEAKER_00 35:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:38

Like how my brother treats me. Oh. They treat me better than my brother, but like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:45

Huh. As a guy with, I don't want to say I have a lot of women friends, but I do have women associates, right? I do have my close friends, my close female friends, but I try to find something super annoying and ugly to where it just shuts me off. To where I'm like, okay, I don't want to get with that, you know? Even like as a single man, too, if I find something that's just like a deal breaker that would just shatter my glass perception of you, then I'm.

SPEAKER_04 36:17

I know a lot of things about them. Like I know the girls they talk to or the girls they have talked to.

SPEAKER_00 36:23

And so you're like, nah, man, I ain't fucking with you.

SPEAKER_04 36:25

I would not.

SPEAKER_00 36:26

Really? Did you ever have found one of your guy friends attractive towards like, oh man, kind of dig him? Or like, did he do anything to where it's like, oh shit, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 36:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

Yeah. What did he do? Would he would he know if like if he watched this and listened, would he know, damn, that was me.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

Yeah, so that was.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

Oh crap. Okay, we'll stop there. We'll stop there. You can tell me after. Oh man. That's funny because there's always. And I've gone through this before, where you don't expect that person to be like, oh snap. Okay, your attractive meter went up like three times where it was now. It's like, oh gosh, this yeah, I this need to stop.

SPEAKER_04 37:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 37:14

I mean, like, all my homeboys, they're all very handsome guys. Yeah. Shout out. But yeah. I definitely love being their wing woman.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

Really?

unknown 37:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:27

I'll put them on with whoever's they say, like, oh, your friend is cute. I'm like, okay, you want here's her number.

SPEAKER_01 37:33

Really?

SPEAKER_00 37:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:34

You don't obviously I would ask it like if that's cool with her.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

Yeah. Describe like a wing woman situation.

SPEAKER_04 37:42

Say I'm out at the club or something, and my I'm like hanging out with a bunch of girls that say I either just met them or whatever's, and then my homeboys is like, oh my god, that girl's cute. I'll literally be like, yo, yo, yo, you think what you think about him? Whatever's. Introduce them, let them do their own thing.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

So that's what goes on in that little circle of women. It's like, hey, what do you think? Really? Does that happen a lot? Like when you when you're with your girlfriends out in a boat, do you guys talk with yourselves and say, hey, what do you think of him? What do you think of her? This and the third. Really? Oh, okay. And is it surprising if a guy comes up, like the guy that you were you ladies were talking about, comes up into that circle and be like, hey, how you doing? I'm so and so.

SPEAKER_04 38:28

Well, it's usually because girls, we stare. Like really sometimes you're like, don't look, don't look. And then your friends are like, like straight. I'm like, guys, what's happening right now? But then obviously the guys are gonna notice, like the eyes a lot. You make that eye contact, it's on. It's on.

SPEAKER_00 38:52

Do you prefer the guy coming up to you for a conversation? Or do you go, really? Yeah. Are you too much of a a chicken? No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 39:02

I mean, I've gone up to guys before and talked to them, whatever, but like, it just makes me feel better if someone's coming over to me.

SPEAKER_00 39:11

Good for you. I think I've done that. No, I've no. I know I've done that. Like, that's like my thing. I would definitely like step up to a woman, like a female, and say my peace. Nice shoes, what app. You know? That's that was the line, man. That was the line. Hey, nice shoes, what app. You know? Shit. Hey, it'd be different out there in the bay. How is it clubbing or being out with your girls out here on the island?

SPEAKER_04 39:41

Um, honestly, most of my friends right now, they're all in relationships, but before, um, you know, we would go out, we'd have our little time. Pre-game, uh-huh. Whatever's. I mean, it's fun. It's just like it's so hot.

SPEAKER_00 39:57

Like, like as in like temperature-wise?

SPEAKER_04 39:58

Yeah, temperature-wise.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

Like, it's Facts.

SPEAKER_04 40:01

It's so hot.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

It's like I can't have a good time.

SPEAKER_04 40:04

Like, I want to dance and whatevers, but like, not to the point where people are like pushing me around.

SPEAKER_00 40:09

And you got that, some people got that stank. Yeah. Where deodorant? Oh my god. Oh, the stank really does kill me. Here's a question from uh one of the uh one of the people. Um, is friends with benefits still a thing? Yes. It is. Um, and this is uh cut caveat off that. Can you um can you guys still be friends after doing the do?

SPEAKER_04 40:37

Um Yes, I know. It depends, honestly. I think you can be friends. No, no, no, actually you can't be friends. You can be you can be acquaintances, but I don't think you can be friends.

SPEAKER_00 40:53

Uh why not?

SPEAKER_04 40:57

There's just like say that person gets into another relationship afterwards.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

And then you'll feel some type of way.

SPEAKER_04 41:03

You're definitely gonna feel some type of way. Like, and their significant other is definitely gonna feel some type of way.

SPEAKER_00 41:10

But isn't it a conversation that you will not have with your significant other?

SPEAKER_04 41:17

I mean, I guess, but how are you gonna say, like, oh yeah, that's my homegirl? You slept with her.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

Uh, yeah, you just say, Yeah, that's my homegirl. Yeah, but then slept with her.

SPEAKER_04 41:28

You just girls know there's a five, there's a five.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

Like, I know Hell no, there's not no. There's okay, as a guy, we're gonna talk about this now. So as a guy, when we're not huh?

SPEAKER_03 41:39

Is the camera on?

SPEAKER_00 41:40

That one now. The the one on your left.

SPEAKER_03 41:43

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:43

Okay, cool. See, back up to the backup. As a guy, we know how to like sub guys, we know how to like separate them, right? So when we like say canoodle with someone, um, we are not entitled to tell like the next person that we, you know, we had relations with that person. I know it's kind of disrespectful, but if it's not brought up, why would he why would a guy would, you know, say, hey, I slept with her?

SPEAKER_04 42:16

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 42:17

Because like, let's say, let's say you and I were in a relationship, right? And I don't know anything about your past. I don't know who you fillashed, I don't know who you canoodled with. If we're walking down the street, if and if you say what up to a person, I'm like, okay, cool. I don't want to know the background to that. I don't want to know say, hey man, we held hands that one time. I don't I don't I don't want to know that shit. I just know like, okay, hey, y'all cool, you know, y'all know each other. Now, if you and I walking down the street and I saw a woman coming down that I had relations relations with, I wouldn't say, I was like, oh that's my homegirl. You know, like I I know her. I wouldn't be like, hey man, I hate that. You know, I wouldn't, I would not say that at all. I mean But you would feel a vibe? Yeah. How would you feel a vibe from me saying, hey, what up? Hey, what up? That's my girl. You know, like hey, I don't know, like no, I'm really good with catching that. Really?

unknown 43:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

Is it the eyes? Or is it like the hug or the handshake?

SPEAKER_04 43:19

Everything.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

Is it really?

SPEAKER_04 43:20

I'm an overanalyzer, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

Has that gotten you in trouble?

SPEAKER_04 43:24

Yes. Uh I'll be paying attention to everything. Uh-huh. Like, because I don't want to miss something. I don't want to be the girl that's just like, it's okay. And then it's not.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

You want to bring it up. Like if there's a conflict between you and your man, or you're in a friendship, you want to bring it up.

SPEAKER_04 43:48

And they were like, you're insecure, you're being immature, blah blah blah. Slept with them two weeks after we broke up. So a woman's intuition.

SPEAKER_00 44:03

I give y'all, I give y'all that. The woman's intuition is like 85 to 90% right. That 15 to 10%, yeah, y'all gonna hell for that one because it's like completely wrong. You could be like right, on spot on, right, but then when you're wrong, it's like super wrong. Like, yeah, I've been in them situations with my wife and like previous relationships that um, oh yeah, I'm trusting my woman intuition. Well shit, girl, it's wrong. You know, like, and I love I don't know about you, but I love proving women wrong. It's bec and it's because like I like I said again, like 95% of the time, you guys are right, or it's one of those things, it's one of those battles that us guys don't want to get into. It's like, okay, all right, babe, you got it. You win, you got it. But when it comes down to like something that we're passionate about, it's like, okay, I'm gonna lay one on you. Has that ever happened to you? Where like, let's say, a friend or even like your ex-man's pri you know, your guys, they were saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, you win, you win, you win. But then when a big argument comes, it's like, all right, these are the facts, I'm winning this one. And you're just like like brutally wrong. Like they put you in your place, you're like, oh fuck, okay, you're right. Okay, I got it, I got it.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

No.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

No? Are you a winner? Like when it comes to arguments?

SPEAKER_04 45:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 45:29

Ew. But so if you're losing, you're gonna be winning.

SPEAKER_04 45:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:34

Ew.

SPEAKER_04 45:36

But like, no, I don't like, I don't know. I haven't, um I haven't had any like ridiculous arguments where we had to prove each other wrong.

SPEAKER_00 45:45

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 45:46

Like, yeah. And I don't like arguing to the point where like I win, uh-huh. Like, oh no, no, this is the thing. I win the argument, but then do I win in the relationship? No.

SPEAKER_00 45:57

Oh, yeah, because it's a war.

SPEAKER_04 45:59

Yeah, like why are you going to war with your significant other? Just talk about it. There's no need to like go back and forth about it.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

This is true.

SPEAKER_04 46:09

I don't think there's anything like really crazy that you have to if you have to fight about something like to that point, bro. Someone already did something extremely wrong.

SPEAKER_00 46:20

Really? Yeah. Slap me sideways.

SPEAKER_04 46:27

I mean, like arguing, I don't like it.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

Oh, who does?

SPEAKER_04 46:31

Like, there's girls that are like, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:34

Oh yeah, they turn that turns them on.

SPEAKER_04 46:36

Like, why? Why? I don't not want to argue with my man. No, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 46:41

No, but I think it's the fact that after the arguing is done, then some people like they look back and laugh at it. It's like, oh man, we're fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_05 46:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:51

I think that's why people like to argue because of the makeup. It's like, it's not it's not about like the the canoodle that happens after. It's the looking back and it's like, oh man, we actually argued over something like real dumb.

SPEAKER_04 47:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:03

Like linen. That's some old.

SPEAKER_04 47:06

I also don't want to be the girl that like makes the problem out of like little things.

SPEAKER_00 47:11

Really? Yeah. You've never caught yourself like uh like say arguing over something little. Like, motherfucker, I asked for cheese and this this bitch didn't fucking put you know cheese on my burger. Yo, you got over it.

SPEAKER_02 47:27

Let's get over it.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

I that's good. You know what? Good for you. It's like you're you're an easy going person.

SPEAKER_02 47:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:32

Why are why do you think people are like that? Like they're so uptight with man, I asked for coke with no ice. There's fucking ice in here. Take this shit back. Why do you think they're uptight?

SPEAKER_05 47:44

I don't know. Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 47:51

Neither do I. Like I know people that are like that. Like, oh, I I didn't want ice in my drink, or I asked for cheese. Now I don't have cheese. I asked for, like, say, a beef chalupa, they gave me chicken.

SPEAKER_04 48:06

I don't know. This is just like, why are you complaining?

SPEAKER_00 48:09

Yeah, I be like I'm happy. It's fine.

SPEAKER_04 48:11

You got it.

SPEAKER_00 48:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:13

Just move on.

SPEAKER_00 48:16

Yes. Yes. Confession time. This is the part where uh we uh bust out a couple we actually answered all the questions. Oh, okay, here's one more. Are you emotionally intelligent?

SPEAKER_05 48:30

Um I think so.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

You want to believe so?

SPEAKER_05 48:33

I'd like to believe so.

SPEAKER_00 48:35

Explain what to you what emotional intelligence is.

SPEAKER_05 48:40

Just understanding your own emotions and others.

SPEAKER_00 48:43

Oh, good job. That's what we're that's pretty spot on. Cool. Why do you think people have a hard time doing that? Like they when they like get in an argument or when they start speaking, right? To someone's disliking, they're more emotional instead of logical. Why do you think is that?

SPEAKER_04 49:02

Because the whole reason why you're saying what you're saying is because you're feeling something.

SPEAKER_00 49:06

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 49:07

So if you're feeling extremely mad, you're not gonna think before you speak.

SPEAKER_00 49:13

This is true.

SPEAKER_04 49:14

But I think most of the time I try to think before I speak, but if there's just so much emotion involved, I'm not gonna.

SPEAKER_00 49:23

You're not gonna speak?

SPEAKER_04 49:24

No, I'm not gonna think. Like I just I just be throwing it out there and I'm just like sometimes after I'm like, ooh.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

That's funny.

SPEAKER_04 49:33

Maybe let me stop talking.

SPEAKER_00 49:34

Like would you when you get in these arguments, would you ever out your man? Like, like, say, like you get to the point where it's like, man, that's why you got fucking peace stains and I have to flip over the mattress type shit.

unknown 49:44

Yeah. I don't give up.

SPEAKER_00 49:49

Oh man, I hate you so much. I'd be like, girl, why you say my business out like that? You fucking ass.

SPEAKER_04 49:57

But I don't like arguing in front of other people. If we're like, or if there's an issue or whatever, it's bro, we'll take that shit on the side. Ain't nobody want to listen to that. I've been the person on the side too, and I'm like, move. Like, why are you guys having this conversation right here?

SPEAKER_00 50:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:11

This is an A and B conversation, not the whole group needs to hear.

SPEAKER_00 50:14

Yeah, see your way out, right?

SPEAKER_04 50:16

Why you need to make a scene? Just handle it and then continue it.

SPEAKER_00 50:20

Oh, so Miss Casey, you've never been into a quarrel with someone in front of people. It's always been private.

SPEAKER_04 50:27

No, I have. That's why I learned my lesson.

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Oh, really? That's good. Good for you. Um, is it one of those things where you will definitely have that talk later, or you let it settle and you just let it like I guess dissipate, like disappear?

SPEAKER_04 50:44

Depends on what it's about.

SPEAKER_00 50:46

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 50:47

Like, if it's something small and then we're just like letting it settle down, whatever, and we have to do something else.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 50:55

Then maybe we'll forget about it later. But then if it's important, yeah, we're talking about later.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

Girl, good for you. You are an intelligent young woman.

SPEAKER_02 51:06

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 51:07

Welcome. Alright, confession time. This is a part, this is the part where you confess something to someone. Or like, yeah. Do you uh do you have anything to confess? It could be like to someone that I have to explain this to like every guest. Uh, it could be a little like yo, I'm sorry that I didn't go to that trip to Las Vegas because I just didn't have the funds. But hey man, I'm sorry. You know, or hey man, I didn't go to your wedding because I got I got pretty much drunk, I got pretty drunk. Sorry.

SPEAKER_04 51:46

Okay. I'm sorry, mom. But there was one time where I snuck out of the house and nobody knew, and I got back home at like 7 a.m. and you guys were leaving for work, and I snuck back in as soon as you guys left because I watched you guys leave.

SPEAKER_02 52:03

Ooh.

SPEAKER_04 52:04

Like I literally hid on the side of the house, seen you guys get in the car, and as soon as you pulled out of the parking lot, I ran in the house.

SPEAKER_00 52:11

They knew you were did they thought that you were in the bedroom?

SPEAKER_04 52:15

Yeah, they thought I was sleeping.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

Ooh, girl. Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_04 52:19

Um, shout out 16-year-old me.

SPEAKER_00 52:22

You're doing that at 16?

SPEAKER_04 52:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 52:24

You're hanging out with seniors?

SPEAKER_04 52:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 52:27

Older than seniors? No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 52:29

Not older. Like, yeah, senior, juniors, seniors, something like that.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

So you were a freshman?

SPEAKER_04 52:33

Yeah. Freshman, sophomore.

SPEAKER_00 52:35

It all happens. It happens.

SPEAKER_04 52:37

I'm just a girl.

SPEAKER_00 52:39

Shut up. Oh my god. Um, Casey, that was fun. Yeah. That was super fun. That was really fun. Oh, hell yeah. Um, as your first pod, uh, what'd you think of it?

SPEAKER_04 52:52

I liked it. Like, we're just having a conversation over here and it's all fun.

SPEAKER_00 52:56

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_04 52:57

I just really hope I don't get clipped anything like crazy. I don't think I said anything like crazy.

SPEAKER_00 53:02

I don't think you did it. No. The only way you'll get clipped is someone who's like really into you and just clip bits and pieces and then just make it into one home new segment.

SPEAKER_04 53:14

Give me the money.

SPEAKER_00 53:15

That's looking crazy. Do you have any shout outs or anything? Or what can these people find me?

SPEAKER_04 53:20

Um, my Instagram is k.ac e. You guys can find me over there. And then um I just want to give a shout out to myself and Ricewim. Ricewim. Um, love y'all. And shout out Chris.

SPEAKER_00 53:39

Hey! Yes, yes. Got it. Uh KO Studios, thank you for the lovely home. Rabbybody, thank you for the lovely vibe, man. And with that, I'm Chris.

SPEAKER_04 53:48

And I'm Casey.

SPEAKER_00 53:49

And we out this bitch. Peace.