The REALationship Method
The REALationship Method is a comedic podcast about dating, relationships, and advice, blending tips with plenty of tangents. With stories and experiences shared by the cast and guests, it offers cautionary tales to help you avoid making the same mistakes. So sit back, relax, and maybe learn a thing or ten!
The REALationship Method
He Hit 485 Deadlift And Still Can’t Read Flirting, Send Help with Sage
A first mic, a sandy shoreline, and a set of hard-won lessons about love and timing—Sage brings a full-life story that hits both the studio and the heart. We dig into how he broke into radio through production, why tedious edits matter more than hot takes, and what it really takes to balance a day job, gym sessions, content, and weekend shifts on Island 98.5. His path is equal parts grind and guidance, with a nod to mentors who opened the door and a work ethic that kept it open.
We move from the board to the beach as Sage breaks down body surfing culture: competition stops, judging flow and form, and finding your crew. In the gym, he’s lived both sides—chasing heavy numbers as a teen and now prioritizing high-rep strength, mobility, and a kitchen-first approach to change. We talk fasting, hydration, and why the quiet choices between sets and meals outlast the loud ones. There’s a candid look at gym culture too, from tripods to pump covers to the awkward reality of accidental eye contact and what respect looks like in shared spaces.
Then we get personal. Missed flirting signals, when to ask “Do you want me to listen or fix?”, and the grown-up way to end a relationship when nobody is the villain. We walk through boundaries with exes, the art of transparency that prevents jealous spirals, and how to build a home where kids can speak without fear. It’s honest, sometimes messy, and ultimately hopeful: style is personal, trust is built, and clarity saves time, tenderness, and pride.
If you enjoy real talk that blends radio grind, ocean breaks, and relationship wisdom you can use today, hit play, follow the show, and share this with a friend who needs a nudge toward clearer conversations. Subscribe, rate, and drop a review—what’s one communication habit you want to practice this week?
• landing a radio role via production and mentorship
• balancing a day job with weekend on-air shifts
• body surfing competitions, judging, and community
• training shifts from maxes to high-rep strength
• fasting, kitchen discipline, and hydration
• attraction, gym culture, and social cues
• handling space versus fixing in conflict
• honesty without cruelty in feedback
• parents, privacy, and building trust at home
• missing flirting signals and naming feelings
• ending relationships with mutual respect
• transparency with exes and current partners
• first impressions and treating people well
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Welcome back to another episode of the Relationship Method podcast. It's your boy Chris and today I got a special guest. You might know him on the island as one buff guy. Um he's the DJ on island 98.5. I have god damn, shit's breaking on me. I got that motherfucking sage on this bitch. What's up, big dog? How are you, bro?
SPEAKER_01:Bro, it feels good to be here. This is actually my first one ever, so I'm kind of stoking right now. First podcast? Third podcast. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Really? Yeah, I'm gonna pop the motherfucking cherry. No bleeding though, no bleeding, no bleeding, no bleeding. It was gentle. It was consensual. It was consensual. There it is. There it is. We're both above 18 up in this bitch. Oh, yes, we are. Hey dog, before we did uh sorry going, man. How did I get the yes from you to you know to come on this little pot?
SPEAKER_01:Um, my perspective, honestly, bro, I was at Sandy's. And I just finished surfing, and then I got um I got your message, and I was like, Oh yeah, I'm there. I'll do it right now.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, appreciate right now.
SPEAKER_01:But of course, we got a schedule. Yeah. Everybody's busy, got their lives going on.
SPEAKER_00:So also for us, so it was that easy to oh yeah, it was it was that easy. Oh, okay. It was uh you didn't have to do like any research or anything, or they're like, oh man, who's this motherfucker? Like, who's this cat?
SPEAKER_01:Nah. Okay, cool, cool. Kind of just I trust if if it comes to me, it was meant to be for me. So see where it goes.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, that's what's up, man. How was your week?
SPEAKER_01:It was hectic. Really? So um, like a lot of people don't know. I do have a day job like a lot of us tend to have. Um, so I go from like my day starts at about 6.30. First job ends at about 3 o'clock, and then depending what goes on, I either like hit the gym or I gotta head to the radio station or make content. So it's been a busy one.
SPEAKER_00:Really? Do you have a um oh what's it called? It's a manager, it's some type of manager, um, account, no, um, god damn it, a scheduler, or you you do your own scheduling? That's me. We kinda wing it. Isn't that shit like isn't that shit crazy? We kind of wing it. Oh man, because me and my wife, we have we share a calendar, right? That is smart. And um, she would, oh, you have this thing on this day? I was like, Yeah, it's in the calendar. Oh, I didn't see it. I'm like, oh my gosh, you're on your phone a lot. You know, like how women are, and uh not all women, I'm not trying to like put you on my phone.
SPEAKER_01:I'm on my phone a lot, but oh yeah, well, I need to be on my phone to be honest, but you need to be on phone comes with it, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But if you don't have to be on your phone, she's on her phone a lot. Okay, but if she's like, dude, you don't see it, she's like, no, you do get the notifications, right? Yeah, I just don't tend to read them. I'm like, oh my gosh. We also have um like an actual calendar that we write things, like you know, the the whiteboard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I kind of mess up too. Like, I don't write anything in there, but it's all in here, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01:That's what I tell everybody too. Like, don't call me and tell me something's important. Text it so I can see it, and then I'll like transfer it somewhere, or I have I can look back.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because I have a lot of friends are like that too, where if I tell them something, it's just one ear up the other. And we're like, oh dude, I'm supposed to be here. It's like, yeah, dog, I told you. It's like, man, I'm sorry. So I learned my lesson to where if I'm if I'm talking to you and I give you a date or a time, I'm gonna I have to text it as well because you know, I think we're we're just visual beings like that.
SPEAKER_01:I'm 100% visual.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:All visual.
SPEAKER_00:So are you one of those guys where because I'm I'm this I'm this way, I remember things better when I write it down. Yep, write or type it down. Oh, like text or oh really? Either or even on the computer. I can't do that. Like if I'm typing something, I'm not gonna remember it, but if I'm physically like writing things down, it's better like I I remember it more clearer. Like, let's say like a combin like a locker combination thing. I have to write it.
SPEAKER_01:I can relate to that. Yeah, I can relate to that. But like even well, at least for me, like if I if I type it into the calendar, it's like, okay, I have something that day. Uh huh. It's like, okay, I gotta look back.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay. And um, Sage, man, how'd you get into this, you know, this this radio gig? You and I talked about it prior. Yes. You know, how how do you get into this? Like, is it hard to get in? Was it just one of those things where we found you?
SPEAKER_01:It's it's definitely definitely hard to get in. Um, I would say I wouldn't say it's an easy thing, but um, for me, I got lucky. Um, if you guys know Auntie Brandy, she used to be on island 985. She's actually my real auntie. She's married to my uncle. And uh long story short, we took a family trip to Vegas. They came up, and I asked her, I was like, Auntie, what do you do behind the scenes? And she's like, Oh, I can show you when we go back home. I was like, Oh, okay, bet. So we did the trip, came back home, then she hits me up at like maybe between the hours of like 10 and 11 p.m.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Auntie, you should be asleep.
SPEAKER_01:Oh bro, she was grinding, bro. She was grinding. It was crazy like her work ethic. But she hit me up and I put up to the studio, and we were she was basically training me on the production side instead of the talking side, because we all can just talk.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, we ran that for maybe three months, I think. And other guy on our one of our sister stations, um, his name is Casey, who's not on the radio anymore. Shout out to Casey Nancy Brandi, by the way. Um, yeah, he was like, Oh, you should tell your nephew, like, apply, we're hiring. We're like, oh shoot, okay, cool. Um, put in put in my application, put in the programs that I learned, and the VP down here for iHeart pulled my app. Big Core pulled my app. Me and Big Core is like, it depends what the situation is, too. Uh huh. Like, he can either be a big brother or he can pull out like his dad's side. Oh. So it's pretty dope. Like, me and him got super close over the course that I was in radio. But uh, yeah. Oh, that's how you got it. How I got into radio.
SPEAKER_00:The whole production side of it, because you you said it yourself, we could all talk. How difficult is that production side?
SPEAKER_01:Um Difficult, I wouldn't say difficult, but I wouldn't also say it's easy, but it's very tedious. Uh-huh. So it's a lot of just sitting in front of the computer and lining up the lining up the waves, making sure like the levels is good across maybe eight different audio files you have running at one time. So I mean it's very tedious and it's you ever have that one song that you keep listening to and it gets like annoying? So that it can get to that point. Oh we're producing our commercials or even like our content where if we're trying to line up the audio and the video, it gets it can get annoying, but then the final product is like, okay, cool. It was worth it.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, okay. And then um, do you do you be doing live interviews on 98 on the radio station as well?
SPEAKER_01:Not yet, but I've jumped on a couple with um with Core.
SPEAKER_00:How hard is that? Especially with people that I guess don't have a filter that that cuts a lot. How fast is that button?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay, so that button is I wanna say it'll delay it by like three, four seconds. Uh-huh. So it'll cut on RN, and by the time it gets aired, that section won't go.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, just okay, okay, okay, okay. That makes sense. Oh, snap. Um, do you have a hard time interviewing people? Or like have you ever I've never even really done it.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, really?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. You were just a guest or just talking or yeah, kind of just like throwing it in two senses.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like a co-host. Like a co-host, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You like doing that?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's good for it.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, cool. Hey, that's hey, that's what's up.
SPEAKER_01:That's why I had to say yes to this. I was like, okay, let's go.
SPEAKER_00:Hell yeah. Have you met any crazy people yet? Like any any celebrities at the station?
SPEAKER_01:Celebrities. Oh, there's that one song that went big. I forget who it was. It was an Asian dude.
SPEAKER_00:Asian dude song. Oh. Khan? Was he from New York? Joe Rap? No. Okay, there's a okay, there's gotta be a good one. I forget.
SPEAKER_01:But I met him, one of the biggest like rappers out of I wanna say Japan, don't quote me on that. But he pulled up, he had a somebody was giving him a tour of the of the station, and so I met him, he's cool. And then like locally, wavy, conakfare. Yeah, um met Anuhil, but I don't know if Anuhia remembers me, but it's okay.
SPEAKER_00:I think we're in like in the same group, so she might she might see this shit. Okay, perfect. Okay, yeah. Hey, Sage says, What's up?
SPEAKER_01:Um Brotherhoods, um ICentral, all these guys, are they cool? Or like oh yeah, like I'll even say this off camera, like they're super cool.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, cool.
SPEAKER_01:Like they're genuinely cool people.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, because I've um I've had one uh radio personality on this, and she was saying that she had two guests that was just not to the standard that she was hoping that they would be on. Like they were just acting so I don't know, shady or not like above her, you know, like above a human being. And I was like, dog, that's I mean, I it's understandable. Like you if you've been doing this for like so long, you're you're keen to that type of status, right? To that type of yeah, I'm I mean attitude. But then I don't know, for for a person that meets you and you're up there like for the first time, first impressions, like that means I say it's a big thing personally, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Regardless who or what level you are personally, so definitely big on the first impressions. Like if you're cool off rip, yeah, dude, let's go grab a beer or something. I don't know. Or just go, let's go barbecue at somebody's house.
SPEAKER_00:For sure, yeah. Oh, bet. And then you say you surf, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, I body surf.
SPEAKER_00:Um are there competit because I'm I don't go out a lot. Are there competitions like that out here on Hawaii?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, so it's actually IBSA, so International Body Surfing Association. Um, I competed in a on one of the stops in the tour, it was at Sandy's. They didn't make it, but that was my very first time competing ever, and it was pretty sick. So like Worlds is I think that year Worlds was in Australia. Uh-huh. And like, I guess people couldn't make it to Australia, so I got hit up and I was in Colorado at the time. Uh-huh. And they were like, bro, you you wanna come? You gotta fly out like next week. And you're like, I was like, yo, I got I got a day job, bro. I got bills to pay. I really can't make it. Uh-huh. But I mean, yeah, there's there's competition, there's there's growth.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, nice.
SPEAKER_01:Um, sponsorships too. I wouldn't say I'm sponsored, but people say I'm sponsored. But um, shout out Yucca Finns and uh the boys of Kahanalu, if you ever came across their page. So like the Brown Dolphin.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen that. I've seen that. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So we all ride for the for the same team.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, were yeah oh is is so the competition with body surfing and surfing, is it the like being judged? Is it the same thing? Like you just write the way you ride away, the style and everything is the same.
SPEAKER_01:It's generally the same thing.
SPEAKER_00:Can you surf as well?
SPEAKER_01:I'm not good at it. I think it sucks. But I can stand up.
SPEAKER_00:I can stand up. I could stand up. I might not ride the wave, but I can stand up. Same, same. I can stand. I ain't riding shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm in the little baby pools, man. Oh man. Well, man, that's what's up, dog. Hey, let's get to these questions. Let's go. Alright, cool. First one, my man's. So these are all from followers and listeners, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Who this can go any direction.
SPEAKER_00:Here you go, yup. My man says he likes me in anything. So my question is do men like anything on a woman?
SPEAKER_01:So I'm gonna just be blunt and say I'm gonna answer this for myself. Yeah. Because I can't speak for everybody else. But I can personally say yes.
SPEAKER_00:So there's nothing on a woman that you're like, oh, uh nope.
SPEAKER_01:Nah, not not in my opinion, to be honest. Really? Personally, I prefer the bummy look, so like the sweats and everything. Yeah, as oh, I love that. As cliche as it sounds, I love that.
SPEAKER_00:Dog, I love the the whole growing up in Cali, the whole basketball shorts with the hoodie look.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's my thing.
SPEAKER_01:And I like it because your mind can travel. Like, say, say it's your woman. Like, you know what she looks like. But it's like, okay, what what you got under there? Yeah. I've seen it like a bunch of times, but now it's like, okay, what you got?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, you know what? Yeah, you're right. We guys like anything on a woman. It could be like baggy clothes, baggy shirt, it could be cigarette pants. You know, cigarette pants. You know, you know, like it goes up right here. Oh, okay, I got it, I got it, you know what I'm talking about. You know, and um the the whole mama jeans, that's if mama jeans. I mean, if you got the body for it, not even the body, but if you wear it the right way, you could they could definitely kill.
SPEAKER_01:That's a fair statement.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's a fair statement, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Let me ask you this. How about the women at the gym? What's you know what they're wearing now, right? Like that, you know, that it's tight, they're showing a lot of skin. Yes. Is that I mean, to a guy, it's like, oh, okay, cool. But then, I don't know, younger me, I'd be horny for it. Older, older me now, it's like, dude, like, it's okay to cover up, you know. Like, um what goes in through your head?
SPEAKER_01:I'm neither here nor there, to be honest. I'm okay with either or the one thing I didn't understand was, and I'm not gonna I don't personally know her. Um, I seen this girl at the gym, and I don't even know what those shorts are called, but like spanks or tights, whatever it was, and then she had a sports bra, and she had a long sleeve, but the long sleeve literally came up to like right here. Oh, to show cleave, or to show like to show everything, yeah. Stopped here and I was like, I understand like a pump cover, or even if you want to look good at the gym, because if you look good, you lift good. Yeah, totally understand that. But what was the point of wearing that? Uh-huh. Like if it's to look good, then cool. I was just confused. Oh. Because I'm one to wear, well, obviously I'm different, but if I'm wearing long sleeve, I'm gonna sweat.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's not necessarily to look good, it's to to sweat to get the blood going, and then maybe take it off because of a pump cover. But yeah, I was just confused. But it definitely looks like less less and less is showing up to the gym nowadays.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, right? Have you ever been caught in a situation where you got caught staring and then the woman was like, What are you looking at?
SPEAKER_01:Has that ever happened to you? Okay, not the second part, but yeah, thank God no cameras was around too because everybody wants to film their workout. Uh-huh. But like I've looked and then I'm like, oh, my bad.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, and then they you you locked eyes?
unknown:Yeah, a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:Or like if I'm not. Is that like the weirdest feeling? It's it's holy crap.
SPEAKER_01:At that point, I just leave. Oh, really? Just just go, just go. It's it's not gonna go good at all.
SPEAKER_00:So when I get caught, I just uh I go because like it's it's like that's my backup because it's like, oh, you're doing good. Keep it up. Oh, okay. Maybe I'll start doing it. Yeah, it's like and then she'll be like, oh. Or she could go, uh. You know? But usually I get the alright, thank you. I'm just like, oh bet.
SPEAKER_02:Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00:I'm like, oh my god, I dodged one, you know what I'm saying? Oh shit. But yeah, the um, because I go to 24 and I uh I just recently started going to 24 because uh me and my boss we signed up for this thing for work.
SPEAKER_01:Oh sick.
SPEAKER_00:And luckily for us, we haven't seen a lot of tripods like recording you know, themselves workout. We go in um to Cap Let. Oh that one. And me, I like working out there, but I'm for my for my lunch workouts, I like to swim. Like I'm just getting my cardio. That's a full-body workout, yeah. So I'm I'm swimming, he's doing the thing, but I haven't seen the tripods. The gym that you go out, do you see a lot of the tripods?
SPEAKER_01:Not a lot, okay. But I see it. But it's like there's people that power lift and bodybuild there, so a lot of it is for their improvement, yeah. Not necessarily for content. Uh-huh. So I mean it's I would do the same thing too.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, yeah. Have you ever have you ever competed?
SPEAKER_01:I've power lifted in af after high school? Or maybe my senior year in high school.
SPEAKER_00:Is that the the 2000 club or the five is that what do you mean you power lifted? Like you it's like strongest bench or oh, okay. What was what was like the heaviest that you've that you've got my bench as a senior? Or like just in general? Or it was 385? 385? Fuck. One time, 315, that was it. I was done. I'm good. But my lift was deadlift. Oh, deadlift, oh deadlift, man, just 225. What was your shit? My max deadlift was like 485? Dang.
SPEAKER_01:And I was about a senior in high school. Are you still lifting that heavy? Oh no, negative. Getting big is over. That's overrated for me too.
SPEAKER_00:So for like say for someone that wants to improve their well-being, right? Do you prefer getting big, putting, you know, like the weights on, or just repping out?
SPEAKER_01:I prefer repping out. Okay. I'm I'm more towards the the lean, kind of not so bulky.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Because I know a lot of guys that are like in the middle. They like they don't know what to do. They want to like, of course, they want to impress the girl by putting the plates on, but then they want the physique to look lean and like fast. Fast, I don't know, but they just don't know what to do. So your opinion is to go rep it out.
SPEAKER_01:Rep it out. And actually, because really, if you think about it, you only spend maybe one to two hours in the gym. Most of the time, and the improvement will come from the kitchen, which I have never connected yet. But because we love food over here. This is true, man. We love food over here. Like rice is the main Oh, dude. Yeah, that that says it in itself. But um, a lot of the improvement I would say from what I've seen and what I've done comes from the kitchen, not necessarily the gym.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay. Kitchen, y'all. That's rice. Just shut your mouth. Just don't eat, drink a lot of water. Um, have you ever fasted before?
SPEAKER_01:I actually just started that like a week ago.
SPEAKER_00:Really? Is it a 24-hour fast? Because me and my boss we're doing it right now. Like, I'm doing a lot of things with my boss because he's he's trying to get into weight for um we have a uh we have a PT test next month and he's trying to like slim down, you know, trying to get back to it. So yeah, fasting. What what are your thoughts on fasting?
SPEAKER_01:I do it, uh huh. But I'm also not training for anything. I just do it to shrink my stomach so I eat less. Uh-huh. So mine is 5 p.m. to roughly 5 a.m.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, no eating.
SPEAKER_01:Drinking water? Drinking water. Drinking a lot of water. Smoothies? I've had a couple of jumba juice smoothies here and there.
SPEAKER_00:I mean I'll whack it. I mean, it's it's it's it's liquid, kinda, right? You can get away with it. It's filling. You can put protein inside. Yeah. Mmm. Cool. So for women, we love you guys wearing anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. Okay, cool. Men's underwear? You care if they're wearing like the tidy whiteies? As long as it's clean, you you care if they're wearing tidy whites. I don't know. I I think I can't do it the tidy whiteys. Oh, wait, you know what? Like boy underwear, like with the designs. I could do that. But if it's like the tidy whities, like, you know, like the Hanes white, I can't, I don't think I could do that. I mean, it's coming off anyway. Oh, okay. Got it. Alright, uh, here we go. Here's another one. Did you ever find out that the other person was married or going through a divorce? Have you ever been in a situation where you're with a woman and she was going through a divorce or she was still married? No, actually. No? No. Hey, dude, you're one of the lucky ones because my story, like my wife's story, she was married when I was trying to holler at that. And it's because I was single and I was just a fuckboy. I'll be honest. I was I was going through my horror phase. I saw her. I didn't know who her husband was. It was at a dance studio, actually. I told one of my good friends, I was like, hey, I'm gonna get at that. He checked her out. She's like, yo, she's cute, but she married. I'm like, yo, if if my game is good, I'm gonna get at it. If her husband's game is that tight, she ain't gonna fall for me. You know what I'm saying? I was such a fuckboy dog. We ended up being in the same dance crew. Sick. Even with the husband. So I had I had kickbacks. I would invite them to like as a couple, I invite them. Because you know, we're all we're all cool. She knew the girls that I was talking to, she knew the types of females that I was bringing home because I was single and she was married, right? I have that right. I have that right to be a fuckboy if I was sitting, if I'm I'm single. So when so her and her situation with her husband was starting to like not be good, she would tell me about it, she would confide in me. I'm like, oh snap, you know, I I pray, I'll pray for you. We don't like I was that guy who was like, yo, man, I I'll pray for you, but yo, you handle it. Be a woman, handle it. I don't I can't say anything because I'm not in your shoes. Yeah, I've never been in your shoes. Handle your business. So they're going through a divorce, and that yeah, so that's when I that's a rapping, and that's how it happened. And I'm sticking to that story, goddammit. I'm rapping. So I was yeah, I was that I was that fucked boy, man. But growing up, because I lost my V like at a at a late age, like senior year type. And dog, I was um, I was fucking around married with married people, dog. And I was like, man. I at that time I didn't feel morally wrong. It's because they're going home happy today, man. I don't know what they're doing. Maybe I was just like a, you know, I felt used, but then it felt good being used, you know. Whoa. Submissive. You know, no, but it's like, yeah. Because they're older women, you know, like the oldest woman. Like, I was in like my teens. Like, I'm gonna say like 18, 19, and I was fucking with like a 40-year-old. And I was like, oh my god, how did you get that? Oh, um, alright, dad. Or no, it was my dad's boss, uh, supervisor. Dad raised. What had raised? I got a raise. No, what had happened was is that um we would always have these family gatherings, right? She would um she would always be there, and then one thing led to another, and then you know, that's a wrap and that's how it happened. Yes, yes, but I have plenty of stories like that, but it was just it's more like um they're just not getting a feel at home. But then I felt bad as I got older. I'm like, damn, I'm a fucking homewrecker, but but I have this feeling that they they never told their husbands what happened. You know, it was just what they don't know, it's not gonna hurt them. So I told my wife this, and this is not the right way, but if she ever cheats on me, shit, by all means cheat on me, but just don't let me find out. I honestly don't care. You feel me? Experience is bliss. Yeah, yeah. I I'd rather be like, oh man, I'm cheating on you. Fuck, okay, well, there it goes, I'm done. But if I never knew, like she could be cheating on me for like the past five years now, and that and I'm not knowing, I'm like, damn, you're fucking good. Like, kudos to you, but we gotta go. You know what I'm saying? Like, are you that type of person to where if it if you don't know it's not gonna hurt you, would you rather be that blind? I mean it sucks because like everyone knows, not everyone knows, but it's like your girl's like just on the low cheating on you, but you don't know, so you think everything's all dandy. So it you're just moving along life. But then when it finally hits, you're like, fuck this, you're gone, you know?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, okay, we'll play it like that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, okay. Oh man.
SPEAKER_01:So maybe yeah, maybe don't tell me.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I yeah, I tell people that too. Don't tell them. Take it to the grave, fuck it, YOLO. Take it to the but then if it's I mean, too, if it's gonna eat you up, you have to tell them. But I tell, yeah, I just tell people like if it's if it doesn't need to be said, don't say anything. You know? Hey, that shirt makes you look fat. No, I'm I'm just not gonna say that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'll take that to the grave. Those are some ugly ass pants. No, I ain't saying that shit. Very, very true. I know where I'm sleeping tonight. I'm sleeping on a bed. I ain't sleeping on no goddamn couch. You look good. You look good. Even though she looked like a clown, you look good. The best clown. Yeah. Best looking clown out there. Uh, have you ever lied like that? Like said an elephant lie? Did I? Like just to I guess to make your woman not be on your ass.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but it wasn't with what she wore, it's like who she who she hung out with.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, like, oh, she's a good person, but then deep down you're like, man, fuck her. Yeah. Like that. Or like, oh, she's a skank, but hey, kudos to you for hanging out with her. Yeah, it's kinda.
SPEAKER_01:You trust her, you don't trust her friends.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, oh yeah. Oh, my wife is like that. She's like that too. Um I trust you, but I don't trust your again. I don't trust the single your single homeboys. Because it's like you're put into that situation, you know?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You're see, you're like, I'm a great wingman. Are you good? Are you a good wingman? I'm a no. Oh no. Oh, don't call me. I'd be setting, I'd be setting motherfuckers up. Like uh one this is back when like in my early 20s. We're at a bar. This guy, one of my homeboys was trying to chop it up with this girl, but this girl had no intentions in like going home. So I stepped up, I'm like, hey dog, hey, I have that 10k for you. Give me by next week. I got you, man. Thank you for lending me that 10k. And then that girl was like, 10k? And he was like, you got it like that. And he was like, Yup.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, I don't want to brag, but yeah, you know, I lend my boys 10K. He needed it for like his business venture. I'm kind of a business guy, and that's how he got her. You motherfucker. It will work, dog. I'll tell you. Let me be a wingman. Call you and we go out there. I'm like, hey, dude, thanks for saving my life, dude. What? Yeah, he pulled me out of the fire. He pulled my dog out of the fire as well. Me and my dog, Black Star, we are good to go because of this man. I'm definitely using that now.
SPEAKER_01:Now I'm gonna be a good wingman.
SPEAKER_00:Now I'm gonna be a good wingman. Oh, I'm a great wingman, dude. I'm taking all of that and I'm gonna use it. Uh, have you ever been in that situation where you helped the like a like like a homie out? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No. Yeah. Um, the girl I was with, we got her best friend and my best friend together. So I mean I guess, but I mean, it was more like do what you can. Oh, really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Oh.
SPEAKER_01:And then it worked, like now they live together.
SPEAKER_00:Really? They're still together. That's good. Yeah. So if was it more of a like, did your boy knew this girl prior to really? It's like it's like, oh, you know what? I have I have a friend for you that I want you to meet. And then they met, and then that's a rap and that's how it happened. Hey, that's what those stories, I love those stories. It's like, hey, do with it. If y'all fuck up, it ain't on us.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. We set y'all up. Bring you to the door, up to you if you want to walk through it. Yeah. And they walk through it and they're still walking through it. Like they're still living together. Oh. That's crazy. Do you that's like four years?
SPEAKER_00:Wow, really? Four years almost five. Shit. Well, a lot of ladies, maybe some guys too, want to know, like, are you single taken or are you in a situation ship? What you doing around?
SPEAKER_01:Um technically single, but I am talking to somebody from Kapole. Hey, that's what's actually Justin Kapole on Friday.
SPEAKER_00:What's what's what's the top for you? What's what's the talking stage? What is that primarily?
SPEAKER_01:That talking, getting to know each other. And then like slowly picking up on the other person's things, like habits and stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Do you guys live together? No, we don't live together. Oh, thank God. Okay, cool. Because you're in the talking stages right now. Yeah. So this talking stage. Or like dating, we're dating, but we're not together. Do you does she or do you have a toothbrush at each other's place?
SPEAKER_01:So I just recently had a toothbrush at her place.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh, so you guys are like freaking like boyfriend, girlfriend. Oh, that's okay. You know what? I wanna reframe what I'm gonna say. Um, so with that happening, that kind of means that. You're over at her place a lot, then am I correct?
SPEAKER_01:At least like once or twice a week.
SPEAKER_00:So do you see, have you ever seen her stressed out yet? Or yeah. How did so the way she handles her stress, that's livable for you? Like you're okay with like she doesn't fucking just wig out, but she manages it. No, yeah. Yeah. Oh, see, that's good. From what I learned throughout this podcast and like throughout life, is that you want to see your partner in these types of situations because once it comes to you, you know, you and your partner going through that same situation, you know what you're asking for. You're not gonna, you know. Because if you see your partner throwing dishes, like, oh shit, I gotta go. Like, if if she gets stressed out and we get in an argument, I'm losing a leg. Like my arm's gonna get chopped off, you know? Or something. Yeah, or so something else that I really might need in the future. You know what I'm saying? But no, that's something that that's good that you've seen her. Have you seen her at her worst yet?
SPEAKER_01:Uh probably. Oh, really? I don't know. Maybe. At least for like the time we've known each other, probably.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Like the worst I've seen. Oh, okay. And then you handle that pretty pretty well. It's like, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:I do what I can. Do what you can. I do what I can.
SPEAKER_00:As men, that's all we can do. Yeah, that's that's that's all we can do. Right? Are you a are you a quick fixer or do you let things dwell?
SPEAKER_01:Asking me like maybe 10 years ago, yeah, I'd probably let things dwell. Uh-huh. But like now it's through the stuff that I've been through, there's there's no point in dwelling.
SPEAKER_00:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01:Because we don't know if we're gonna be here tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And you don't want you like you don't want your last few minutes or whatever we got left dwelling on something. I'd rather just live.
SPEAKER_00:You know what I mean? Yeah. That's that's beautiful. Damn, that was that was beautiful. No, uh, as men, we are wired to fix things right away. Yes. If there's a problem, 100% we'll fix it. Unlike some women, not all, don't get me canceled. Don't get me canceled. They want you to. I need my space. Can you get back to me in like three hours or two hours? Or give me a day. And you know what I'll take it. You'll take that? I'll take it. Dude, I'm still having a hard time, you know, giving my wife that day or those couple minutes, because I'm I want to fix it now. So maybe it's because like deep down I don't want to handle it later. Because everything's so fresh. But if I yeah, well, why why why would you take it?
SPEAKER_01:I'll take it well to take a step back. To take a step back, I'll do more of a what do you want from me? If something comes up, whether it's between us or something happened at work or something, what are you looking for? What do you want? You want me to just hear you or you want to fix it? And then she chooses.
SPEAKER_00:Also, the ball's in her core. Yeah. So she goes, babe, I want, I want time. Perfect. So are you the person that's like, okay, time's up, or she has time.
SPEAKER_01:However long her time is, really, she knows she knows where to find me. Not to sound like that guy, uh-huh, but she can call me, she can come grab me, whatever it is.
SPEAKER_00:You know what I really hate about that that that part is because if they say, and this, you know what, Tiff, okay, my wife, I want, I want time. I was like, okay, bet, but I want you here too. I'm like, hold up, wait the fuck a minute. You can't have two, you know, it's like, okay, I want I want to be left alone. Where are you going? I want you here. So like your presence. Wait a minute. Yeah, like you want to be left alone, but you want me here. That doesn't like how is that supposed to work? And she does this to me all the time, like these little mind games. And I'm just like, I'm not a mind reader. If you say leave you alone, okay, bet, I'm going to a different room.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But if you say her meaning, her meaning of leaving alone is just don't talk to me, but stay here. And I'm like, uh, I could I could do that, but why don't you just say that? It's like just stay here, but just be quiet. They just, I want to be left alone. I hate that shit. What I really hate, and I don't know if this is if you could pertain to this, or it could relate, but when my wife says, Oh, are you hungry? Okay. To us, we're hearing, oh, are you hungry? Um no, I'm good. To them, this is what they hear. They hear, they want to hear, oh, I'm not hungry, but I know you are because you've been waiting for me to get off of work. So we better get something to eat now so you don't faint. So yes, I am hungry. I got lost, but I I know what you say. But I got lost, but I know what you're saying. I I hear you 100%. You know what I'm talking about, right? Yeah, but it's it's it's the little hidden messages to where it's like, fuck. Once you realize it, because this opened up my eyes, I'm like, fuck, I really gotta be careful in what I say because there's there's an underline or like there's a secret message in that. Because if a woman asks you, oh, how do I look in this shirt? Should I change it? And if you say yeah, it's like, oh fuck, so are you trying to say I look like a like a fat whore? You don't love me anymore. Like, no, it's it's just yeah means you know, maybe there's a stain on your shirt, maybe you need to change it, but that's what they're hearing. Has that ever has that ever that ever occurred to you?
SPEAKER_01:Or it's happened before. So that's why now I just I'll be blunt. I'm like, okay, if you want something from me or you're whatever it is you're asking or telling me, tell me what it is. Uh-huh. Cause straight up I like you said, I can't read your mind. Exactly. We're so straightforward human beings as men. At least we're straightforward. So whatever you need from me, what do you want from me, what you're asking me, tell me.
SPEAKER_00:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01:Cause I don't know what what the underlying meaning is.
SPEAKER_00:Like the whole psychology, like the whole playing games, it's I'm done with that. I'm doesn't work.
SPEAKER_01:So I've not cut off, but like it's not worked because of it. Uh-huh. And it has worked because of it. So it's a it's a shot in the dark on who and what it is.
SPEAKER_00:At least for me personally. Yeah. Oh man, I'm so glad that you haven't gone through the are you hungry? Has that have that has that ever happened to you? Like, the are you hungry? No, I'm not. Oh, okay. But she really wants you to be like, yeah, I'm hungry because I know you've been waiting for me. You know what? I'm gonna do it. If it did, I didn't catch it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Like when that whole thing opened up for me, I'm like, fuck, man. This is what they're hearing, uh. I fucking hate being a guy. Because we have to like read their minds. And I'm not trying to dislike all women, but hot damn, you guys are funny as hell. It's yeah, that's that's a good descriptive word.
SPEAKER_01:It's funny.
SPEAKER_00:It's funny. Because it's like, uh, like whatever happened to they want you to be real, but to the point where I guess you can't hurt their so you could be real but not hurt their feelings, so you have to be selective in what you say, I guess. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see that.
SPEAKER_00:You know, like you could if your girl cooked you something and that just tastes the worst.
SPEAKER_01:I'm telling you, it we're gonna go out to eat.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay. But you don't say, hey, this food, this food tastes like crap. I'll say it nicely. Oh, um, you know, a little too much salt. How how would you break it to her? She made so she made you a meal that she slaved over for like hours and it just came out nasty. Okay, this is nasty?
SPEAKER_01:Uh well, no. No, because she put the the effort is there. Yeah. So I'll acknowledge the effort.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I know, I know what you're trying to do. It's cute. I love it. It's we gotta do this again, or we're gonna go eat at like zippies or something.
SPEAKER_00:Uh, so you do the um you you you add in a compliment, but then you add in the little it lessens the hit, I feel. Oh, okay. So you're putting a pillow down on her ass.
SPEAKER_01:Or her head either way.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I love that.
SPEAKER_01:That's the seat before they sit down. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00:I do that with my kids a lot. Like uh, when they're fucking up, I tell them what they're doing bad, but then I'm like, hey man, but you're doing really good though. Like uh my kid, he's doing multiplication long division right now. Oh, nice. I still can't. And it's dude, third grade math is so different on how we learned. Like they're breaking it down as in like, I don't know, like as an algebraic equation. And I'm just like, fuck, this is pre-algebra stuff that they're learning in third grade. It's difficult, but so I'm trying to teach him, and he's not getting it. I'm like, dog, it's it's like this. You kind of suck, but but your addition is doing you're great adding things up. So it's like I put them down, but then I try to lift them up just a little bit. Yeah. Not all the way up. Fuck that shit. They don't do that shit yet. No way. I'm not giving these kids no fucking leeway, man. Shit. Next question. Um, this is a thing. I got caught by my parents. Is there a thing, is there going back from that?
SPEAKER_01:Some of that okay. Well, if I'm reading into this correctly, because I got caught too. Uh-huh. Is there going back?
SPEAKER_00:No, you just laugh at it now. Just laugh at it now. But like, let's say they got caught. How does he or she handle this situation going on for let's say they're they're in high school. How how does that like the awkwardness? How do they handle the awkwardness? Do does should he say something or should he what or she wait for the parents to say something? We'll cross that bridge when we get there. Ah, okay.
SPEAKER_01:Cause I didn't get well, depending on what the getting caught is, because I got caught. Uh uh canoodling. Oh, perfect, me too. My mom walks in. Okay. But I wasn't in high school, I was older. Okay. And I kind of just like, what's up? She's like, oh my god, talk to me after. Ah. Okay. Then we just kept going. Uh-huh. And then the well, she's my ex now. Um she looked back, she's like, What about mom? I go, What about mom? She said, after. Well, we'll just keep going. It's okay. Really? And then we just walked out, and then yeah. But I feel like my dynamics at home is different from everybody. Uh huh. So it's a little more we're more open, I would say.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay. So depending on the family that they have.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and like your dynamics and how you guys how the house works. Oh, okay. Ooh.
SPEAKER_00:But I say cross that bridge when you get there. That's a good that's that's some good advice. My advice would be, I guess, I don't know. Because there's some parents that are, I don't want to say embarrassed, but they're timid to bring those topics up. That's like, as a kid, just hey, I know you saw us. Um first apologize because that's that man's house. Yeah, as a kid, yes. Yeah, that's that's their home. And then just have that talk. But then as a as an adult, uh I'd just be like, hey, my bad. I should have locked the door. Right? We didn't have locks. One 1970s home that you Libyans living in that they don't have locks, dog. Yeah, curtains. That was the This motherfucker had a curtains.
SPEAKER_01:Everybody said, why don't you lock your doors? I'm like, dude, I would if I had.
SPEAKER_00:Oh snap.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah, totally forgot about that. As an adult, just just just let it go.
SPEAKER_00:Let it go.
SPEAKER_01:But as a kid, it's hard to have that talk, don't get me wrong. But yeah. Have that talk. Have the talk. As a under 18, have that talk.
SPEAKER_00:Uh-huh. As a grown-up, like say you had a kid and you caught your kid, how would you, how would you react to that? Because I'm fortunate enough to not gone through that yet. I have two more. Knock on wood. I uh shit. You know, I've like I've caught my my wife caught um our oldest kid, you know, beating his meat. But I mean, hey, it's it is what it is. He's a guy, you know, but having, you know, uh um relations in the house, not yet. How would you handle that as a you know, as a dad, as a dad? To a daughter. You caught your daughter. Like she's doing it with a guy. Not with a girl, with a guy. Because if it was with a girl, I'd I I think I'd give my my little one a hug. No, I think if it was a guy, I'd be like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:You know.
SPEAKER_01:Um, I would hope at that point of her life we've established you can come to mom or dad for anything. So that would be it. So I'd I'd feel like if we caught her, it wouldn't be as bad. Uh because the way I picture my family going is we're, yeah, we hold the mom and dad figure, but we're also like their best friends. Uh-huh. Like daughter or son, whoever. But I'd hope by that time we have that dynamic already where it's like, dad, I kind of like this guy. Can we can I bring him around? Uh-huh. Tell me about him, and then let's let's see how he meshes with the family as a high schooler. I would I would dance around it delicately because of Yeah. Because like now a lot of kids are like, they don't want to speak. Yeah. And regardless if it's a relationship thing or just a mental thing like it is nowadays, it's nobody wants to speak. So I would want to have the house where the kids can speak. And you're not getting judged, you're not gonna get punished, even if you're wrong. Just say something so we can fix it before it gets bad. Because there's stuff that mom and dad can't fix.
SPEAKER_00:So Oh, I'm glad. I'm glad you said that. Because with my with my oldest one, I have a great relationship with her. That's right. And it's it's not it's not like a best friend thing, but like close. Yeah, we're we're like super close. Like she told um, like at our early stages in our life, she she seen me, um, like I was in a gang back in the day. She's seen me go through that stage. She's seen me like make ends meet by you know dealing drugs and shit. She see we were homeless at one one point of our lives. So she's we're like this. Cause I was growing I was uh um I was a single parent at the time. And um, yeah, I think because of that, our relationship was like this. So she was able to tell me like a lot of like not even a not even best friend, but like as a dad, as a parent, she was able to like open up and tell me a lot of like her deepest secrets and stuff. And I'm just like, oh cool. Have you told your mom? Because me and her mom uh were very cordial, you know what I'm saying? After the breakup, you know, I was I went through my thing, but then while she was growing up, we're we were cool after she got into her life and everything. But um, it would there was things where she wouldn't tell her and she would tell me, and I was like, I always wondered like why. And it's I uh she finally told me it's like because I'm so laid back with everything, because I've gone through it too, you know? And yeah, it's what like what you said, like the whole dynamic of the home where you become like your kid's best friend. Like, I like how you said it that way, and how you explain explained it because as a kid, like if you can't go to your friends, because you're of course your friends are gonna judge you, yeah, who else can you go to besides like a sibling or you know, a parent that won't judge, you know, unless you have a therapist that's non-biased or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if you're yeah, if you're going to a parent, that's just like, yeah. But I think a lot of kids, they just don't want to hear the parents' two cents.
SPEAKER_01:That's true too.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I didn't want to hear mine. Yeah, they just want just to say it, just say, say, say, and you're just like, Yeah. Okay, cool. But that's so hard. As a parent, that's so hard not to throw in, you know what I'm saying? Like to throw in your to your dadle. Your dadle. Your dad. Yeah, it's throw in your days. Yeah. To throw in your dadle. Um, it's so hard because you you've gone through it already, so you know, but yeah, deep down you're just like, hey man, you gotta if you're gonna experience it yourself, yo. I hope you experience it to the fullest. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Shit. Next question. Uh the the the as a man, are you oblivious? Uh are you are you are you oblivious flirting from a female? So when a female's flirting with you, are you oblivious to that?
SPEAKER_01:Yep, 100%. My ex can attest to it. Me too. I do not know, like literally, you have to tell me like you like me.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, really? Yeah. What I suck. Do you remember things like subtle things that you know the woman did to flirt with you?
SPEAKER_01:No, dude, because I thought we were best friends, honestly.
SPEAKER_00:Really? Just went. And then how did you know that she liked you? Like your best friend liked you. She finally said something, or is it one of those, hey, you heard it from a third party. Like, hey, you know Sasha liked you and shit. She ended up actually just telling me, I think, if I remember. Oh, really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Were you shocked and everything? Kind of. Really? I can honestly say I was shocked, but everybody else wasn't. Oh shit. Everybody caught on except for me.
SPEAKER_00:Let me ask you this, because when a guy says to a girl, hey, I like you, the girl gets weirded out and ghosts the guy. For you, when your best friend, that was a girl, told you, hey, say, I like you. Did you ghost her or did anything change from that?
SPEAKER_01:I would say there was a change. I didn't ghost her. Um we just spent more time together. Instead of being like a friendship thing, it was more of like a it was then more of a relationship thing. Really? Yeah. So the transition was kind of easy for us at least.
SPEAKER_00:So for guys that, let's say didn't see that girl as a let's say as a as a unit, as a as a girlfriend, you know, but she he's receiving this new this new yeah, this news. Um what is you know, in your opinion, the right way to to handle it afterwards? Because don't ghost, to be honest. Yeah, because I wouldn't say that's that's what females be doing, women be doing when they're like one of the good guy friends say, Hey, um Cleopatra, I like you. Cleo Patra. I'm just I'm just freestyling. Nice. Cleo. But then that could be a guy though. Uh Patra. Patra. Man, hey girl, I like you, girl. And she's like, oh, okay, that's nice. After that, ghost, unfriended. Your hangouts are less. As a guy, when when we get that news, what do you do? Do you still live on and be more sensitive to what you do? Um Nah.
SPEAKER_01:I wouldn't. Wouldn't what? I would kind of just So like if I was in that situation where like she didn't she kind of just brushed it off, I'd be like, fuck it.
SPEAKER_00:Wait, brush it off as an Like I like you, and then she's like, Oh, okay. Cool. Oh no, no, it's it no, it's the other way around. A girl comes to you. She told you that she liked it. Oh, yeah. But I didn't like her back. Yeah, you didn't like her back. You you you just see her as one of the sound real easy, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_01:Be gentle. Um I can't tell you what to say, but what would Sage say? Oh, what would I say?
SPEAKER_00:Um maybe something like Hey girl, I got a homeboy for you, though.
SPEAKER_01:Ah I don't know if I would pass the torch, but I don't know if I'll I don't know if I would pass the torch, but um I yeah, I can't I can't freestyle nothing right now about letting it down easy, but definitely let it down easy. Um I would hope to keep the friendship because that's what it was before.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Any way to keep the friendship, I guess, is what I would say. I'm I'm blanking right now, but yeah. Uh I would try to keep the friendship as as much as I can. And then if they're not gonna meet halfway and it's like, alright, fuck it. Oh, let them go. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Uh not dwell on it like what we were talking about before.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, old me would have been like put the pillow underneath the ass type shit. Like I would, you know, like what you said, be gentle with it. Now it's like, oh snap, for real? Well, damn man, I don't see it that way, but man, I hope he's still cool. Like, okay, see, there we go. I'm like, yo, I appreciate the honesty, and now like in the back of my head, I know not to do certain things around her because she likes me. So if like if I'm trying to get at females, even though I'm a fucking dog or whatever, I'll have respect. I'll have respect for my peoples, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I ain't gonna be like, ah, fuck. You know, I'll be like, hey. Or I wouldn't be talking about females around her, you know, out of respect for her, hoping that she get a guy soon. And once she gets that guy, the feelings disappear. Yeah, yeah. When the feelings disappear, then I could go back to be like, hey man, hey, that female, what's up? You're gonna hook me up, you know, like that type shit. But as I got older, I've I I've I've been I've been able I've been fortunate enough to be able to be like, hey man, hey, that's cool, but um, you know, it's just nah, the time the timing is just not there. And then like, but yo, I do appreciate this friendship, man, and thank you for letting me know. But we still cool though, like you still my people.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe we can circle back later. Oh, oh yeah, maybe. You know, uh can I get a pass?
unknown:You know?
SPEAKER_01:Maybe we can circle because that was that's what me and my ex was. Like we were talk, not talk, talk, not talk. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00:And then like almost dated, and then like we didn't date. Why is that? Why, why do people like is it the chase that we are so attracted to?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if it was the maybe.
SPEAKER_00:Or was it like the little toxicity in that that we're like, oh, okay, well. Because I I've I've heard that a lot of people like a little bit of toxic in their, you know. No, I've heard that too. In their like relationship or in their blunder.
SPEAKER_01:In their blender.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I've heard that too.
SPEAKER_01:I don't I don't know. I do know at one point it was like she was single, I was taken. She was taken, I was single. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00:So the timing was off.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the timing was way off. Then it worked.
SPEAKER_00:Then it didn't. Yeah, then it didn't. Four years later, then it didn't. Uh after four years of, you know, like being with your woman and then, you know, finally breaking it off, like what was I don't know if this is like um too much to ask in there, but what was the final straw to where hey, I I gotta let you go, I gotta go.
SPEAKER_01:Um we both genuinely wasn't happy. Okay. And that's shitty to say, but that's that's what happened. And then we ended up breaking up, and the breakup was an even breakup, like it was mutual. Oh, that's whole drama. It was very adulty. Oh, really? Yeah. Were you surprised how adult it was when you broke up with your ex? Yeah, actually. Like we we both handled it the best way possible. Uh-huh. And that made it suck.
SPEAKER_00:Why why did it suck? It made it suck, man.
SPEAKER_01:If it was so good, why did it suck? It was that because it was good. Like, you know how like some people it's easier to let go if there's like oh, like a bad, like yeah, like if something happens, like it's way easier to let go. For me, because it was so good and like our communication was there at that time, it's like, damn.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I understand. I understand.
SPEAKER_01:It was the the worst, best case scenario in that situation.
SPEAKER_00:But uh Yeah. Was it a um was it a shake hands, a hug situation where you just was it like the movie? It was a it was like it was a fucking movie, to be honest. Really?
SPEAKER_01:It was like it felt like a movie.
SPEAKER_00:Really? So it was a and then we hugged actually.
SPEAKER_01:I want to say, Oh, okay. I mean, I want to say we hugged and like I kissed her forehead, I think. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:And then just something like that. Just parted with. Were you guys living together as well? No, we weren't.
SPEAKER_01:Oh I was working on that actually, like saving up well, still saving up to move out, but yeah, that was the that was the goal.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay. Well, I'm I'm happy for you that you guys didn't go through, you know, that tedious of a breakup because that just shows maturity and growth on both your guys' sides. Yeah. You know, to break it up, break it off like that to where it's like, no man, I fucking hate you. Oh man, shit. That's why you fucking pee on the fucking peat on the bed. That's why I had to flip it over every time a guest comes in.
unknown:Oh fuck a bit.
SPEAKER_01:Like letting go, it would have been easier if it was like that. Yeah. Because there's already some type of tension, but like, yeah, it was a it was a good, yeah, shitty breakup.
SPEAKER_00:Do you still see this person on the island or do you run into them? Um, not necessarily, but like we follow each other still on socials. Oh, that's good. So it's so mutual, it's like it's friendly. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Definitely friendly. So I'm uh does she have a man already? Or I don't know. Oh, okay. Well, cool. Cool, cool. I I mean, at least at least y'all two are good. No, yeah, we're good. Like so there like I still have love for her.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but it's more of like and it's from a distance. I want you to eat just not at my table right now.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I like that. I like that.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I'm supporting you whatever you're doing, but from over here.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah. I like that. So it's I just heard that fucking that quote. I'm gonna say a year or maybe two years and some change. That specific quote, I love that shit. It's cause like the underline is like, yo, I support you, but man, I am not support. Well, not I'm not saying I'm not supporting you, but I'm just doing it back here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that shit. Ah damn, man. Ah damn, you got me thinking now.
SPEAKER_01:I'm so that's that's like honestly, if she needed to, if she wanted to call and she needed to just let whatever the fuck it was out, she couldn't.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah. Yeah. That's good that um that you're the type of guy that would, I guess, listen if you know, like an ex or someone just say, I I need I just need an ear, and then just let someone blurt out. I think a lot of people need that. Depending on like whoever it is, if they're going through set like a problem and they need like that specific person or just needed an ear, like um, yeah, I'm just I'm glad that there's individuals out there that are willing to pick up a pick up a phone, phone call.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And then like from my from my perspective, I would want the respect of let's say she does have a man, but she calls me. I'll initiate off-rip, like, okay, first off, did you hear he know? Yeah. Cause I'm not trying to get in the middle of anything. Oh, hell no. Because that's the last thing anybody fucking wants. Yes. So like I'll make sure before you say anything, does he know? Because if I have another half, she's gonna know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'm keeping this shit crystal clear. Uh-huh. So, and if he doesn't know, tell him, then you can talk to me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that's good. Start at home first.
SPEAKER_01:Don't don't bring it here. Start at home first and then move accordingly.
SPEAKER_00:Do you think a lot of um like situation um fights happen because the one person's not telling the significant other what's happening? Like, I guess like in that scenario where your ex called you. Communication. Communication.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay. I would say that's like the number one killer problem.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, oh yeah. Especially like if you're not being transparent about it. Like transparent as in like instead of your significant other asking you, you're you're telling them. You're going out of your way to tell them, like, hey, so-and-so called, this and the other, instead of she's like, oh, what happened today? Did someone call you? And it's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a whole transparency thing. Just yeah. We're growing, we're doing better. We're growing. As guys, we are doing better. Women, you guys. We still have tendencies, though. Yeah. Oh. But I also have some girlfriends that are like, I'm no better than a guy. Oh, this is true. Oh my gosh, this is true. I have friends like that too. Like, women are like dudes. Yeah. This is true. I know women like that. I'm just like. And then I see it in live action, I'm like, oh my god, that's what I would do. Are you surprised at all that that's happening? At first I was. Oh, really? Oh. At first I was. What was what was one thing that they did were like, oh shit, I would do the same. So the way we look at women. She likes by is your women friend bi? Or I mean, yeah, but she'll look at both the same.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay, okay. So like the same thing we say, like, damn, look at that ass. She says the same thing. Oh. Like male and female. It doesn't matter. She'll say the same thing. And I'm like, oh, really? So she'll be like, man, look at the cock on that one.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I mean, if she could see it, yeah, she would. Yeah. Look at that motherfucker's bulge. Yeah. Oh. So it's crazy. More power to a girl. Yeah. They're more open nowadays. Compared to I'm gonna say 20, 30 years ago or whatnot, women are more into their feminine slash masculine energy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's very true.
SPEAKER_00:For some reason, it's it's just happening, and I think a lot of guys are like trying to catch up to it because they're not prepared, you know, like with that. Especially if they're grow if they're growing up in a um husband-wife household where you know it's like it's equal equal. But then when they see a woman like just predominant and just being out there like a man, what a man would be doing, it's a m you know, like a as a guy growing up, you'd be like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, yeah. It's um, what's it called? Intimidating. It could be intimidating for a guy. It could be. It's like shit. Man. Sage, that was fun. That was fun, dog. I have this uh section of the podcast called Confessions, man. Um, I told you what it was uh prior we started. Um, dude, do you have do you have anything to confess or anything? Um and you don't have to name drop. It could be as stupid as you want.
SPEAKER_01:Bro, I have no idea, to be honest. I'm blanking.
SPEAKER_00:Really? Yeah. I have one. Um there was there was a time I was real young. I put vodka in a clear water bottle, and I gave that to my aunt. That was me. It wasn't my cousin. That was me that did that.
SPEAKER_01:Did you have some before you gave it? Huh? Did you have some before you gave it?
SPEAKER_00:No, I I as a prank, I poured vodka in a clear water bottle, and I gave it to my aunt. And my cousins got in trouble for it. And that was the dude. And only now? Yeah. Oh, that was me. Bobby, what's she gonna do? Man, I'm just a seven-year-old ain't gonna beat my ass. I'm too fast. Yeah, true. What you got? Anything?
SPEAKER_01:I have no idea.
SPEAKER_00:I'll be like, uh, mom, I'm sorry. I dented the car.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I don't know how old it was. Um backstory, I used to train boxing, not trying, not trying to say I can fight or whatever. So I would go on laps or on the parking lot, I'd run. Uh the neighborhood. Um, my grandma used to smoke American? I forget which she used to smoke. It was like a green and maybe white.
SPEAKER_00:Did it have the Indian on it?
SPEAKER_01:No, it didn't have the Indian. Oh, okay, uh, because I know. But I used to take her cigarettes and smoke it on the run. No way. But I was never really a cigarette smoker. I just thought it was cool. Were you young? High school? Uh nah, I was in like seventh grade, seven, eighth grade. Oh, grandma fuse losing cigarettes, it was it was me. It was him. Oh, that was me. That's a true story, too. That's a true story too. I don't condone smoking, but yeah, that was me. I thought it was cool.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, wait. What wasn't cool when you're like in sixth, seventh grade? Shit. What wasn't cool? Yeah, like I mean, everything was cool. Like everything new to me, because everything was new. Yeah. So I was like, oh man, this is this is cool. Like cigarettes. Man, I have fucking five. I I don't have five packs. I have five individual Lucies.
SPEAKER_01:But I will say Japanese cigarettes taste the best.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, they do.
SPEAKER_01:Tried those. Tried. Was never really a cigarette smoker, but I've tried it and they taste good. They stink though.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, they do. They really do. But they taste good. Yeah, they do. I yeah. It's like a cigar. It is kind of a cigar, kind of like all thin and shit. Yeah. Oh my god. Sage, uh, where can these people find you at, man? And do you have any shout-outs?
SPEAKER_01:Um, shout out to my parents. Shout out to everybody tuning in and subscribing to my boy Chris. Um, shout out Ogre, shout out Major League. And uh, you guys can find me on Instagram, S-A-G-E-Y-B-O-I underscore.
SPEAKER_00:Hell yeah. Don't forget to uh tune in island 98.5. When are you on, bro?
SPEAKER_01:Every weekend. Every weekend, every weekend from about so Saturday would be 4 to 10, and then Sundays would be 10 to 4.
SPEAKER_00:4 to 10, 4 p.m. to 10 p.m. Yes, yes, and then 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. Alright, so you workers that are working that night and that morning, put it on Island 98.5. You could get it on iHeartRadio as well, too, yeah. Man, hey, listen to this motherfucker talk, man. He'll put on that tune. Hey, KO Studios, thank you for the lovely home. Rafi Bite, thank you for the lovely beats, man. With that being said, I'm Chris. I'm CJ Boy, and we out this bitch. Peace.
unknown:Peace.
SPEAKER_00:Cool, man. How was that, bruh?
SPEAKER_01:It's cool. I'll come back for a part two.
