Couch-Surfing, Owning Cringe, and Scriptless Scripts with Suavenohea

A one-way ticket, a do-rag, and $200. That’s how Suave landed in Hawaii at 19, betting on instinct, island culture, and the kind of grind most people only romanticize. We dive into the real playbook behind that leap—why he never scripts, how he handles stares in public, and the moment streaming beat short-form videos for deeper connection.

We get into the creator trenches with zero fluff: the IRL setup that keeps streams stable (why the Samsung S25 Plus and top-tier T-Mobile plan matter), what it takes to grow when you’re couch-surfing and DoorDashing just to keep a rental, and how to stay human when the internet won’t drop a past controversy. Suave breaks down purpose with refreshing clarity—spread positivity, make people laugh, and motivate others to chase their dream—while Chris presses on accountability, confidence, and what it means to be recognized everywhere from airports to bathrooms.

The conversation widens into life, growth, and the weight of responsibility. We talk fatherhood goals shaped by an absent dad, where discipline meets empathy, and the messy reality of men under pressure. Who’s the prize and why? How do you keep focus when feelings hit hard or attention gets loud? From body image to tough love, from simping versus romanticizing to setting standards that protect your future, this is raw, funny, and unexpectedly grounding.

If you’re building a creative path—streaming, content, or anything that asks you to be seen—there’s game here you can use today. Tap play, subscribe for more candid creator stories, and drop your biggest takeaway in a review so we can bring even better conversations your way.

• moving from Stockton to Oahu on faith and hustle
• DoorDash, couches, and friends who believed
• scriptless skits, dealing with public stares, owning cringe
• purpose focused on positivity, laughter, and motivation
• resolving the Kauai moped incident and learning
• streaming vs recorded content, IRL gear and carriers
• approaching women, confidence, and visibility on a small island
• fatherhood goals, discipline, and priorities
• men, feelings, pressure, and resilience
• who is the prize, value-building, and standards
• body image, health habits, and tough love
• staying locked in, avoiding simping, and raising your bar

Transcript

Meet Suave: From Cali To Oahu

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Alright, you ready? Yeah. Cool. 54321. Welcome back to another episode of the Relationship Method podcast. It's your boy Chris, and today I have a very special guest. Um man, I don't even have to fucking introduce him like that. I got that boy. Can I say your real name?

SPEAKER_02 0:21

Or just say Suave.

SPEAKER_01 0:23

I got Suave. I got Suave on this hoe. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 0:27

What's up, dogman? How you doing today? I'm doing good. I'm blessed, you know. Back in Oahu, so it's awesome. I was on a little mainland tour, so.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Oh, were? Yeah, that's the that's what's up. We'll get into that a little bit. Um, so uh before we uh got going, like how did you know this thing, how did it how did it happen? How did I get the yes from fucking Rico Swazi?

SPEAKER_00 0:47

How you got the yes?

SPEAKER_02 0:48

You know, I'm always open to everybody's podcast, you know. And um, you know, I've been seeing your content like pop up, like even interviewing a lot of people. Uh so you interviewed like the slap? Is that the slap girl? Oh, yeah, yeah. T. Yeah, I popped up on my for you page and a lot of stuff. So I was like, you know, I was just waiting for the invite, you know, because I'm always open to anyone here or any podcast for real.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Hey, that's what's up. Like talking to people. Appreciate you, Playboy. Yes, and then um, we were talking earlier and we have something in common. We're both from Cali.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

Yeah, Shallow, California.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Hey, you know, Stockton 209, you know what I'm saying? Where it's um humid as shit, but could get cold as hell. Yeah, it could get cold, it could get hot, all that. Man, hell yeah. Um, what were you doing in the uh on the mainland?

SPEAKER_02 1:32

We'll spawn out there, yo. So um I I came back for Christmas and then I went to go visit my dad. My dad lives in Stockton still, so went to go visit him for a little bit in California, you know, just to be able, you know, because for the rest of the year I don't plan on really going back to California because I uh I have a lot of stuff to do here. And then um yeah, I was just chilling with my dad for a little bit because I'm not gonna be able to see him because I live in Hawaii now. So and then I went to Portland, Oregon with my friend Evan Foggy because his uh grandma went to go visit his her brother. So we went to Portland, Oregon, and you know, a little mainland tour. But yeah, I got a little bit of love in Oregon and stuff, but yeah, that's about it.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Dog, um, I have a couple of folks in Oregon. Uh, so I'm gonna assume you're not in the you wasn't in like the racial part of Oregon.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

What's that?

SPEAKER_01 2:20

The racial part, you know, like was dominantly predominantly like quite in you know, like, because my cousin, he's moving out there.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

Yeah, there is a lot of those people out there.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Yeah. I remember going through Oregon one time, and um it felt good to have one of those motherfuckers pump my gas. You feel me? Ain't no racial, no racial having one of them motherfuckers pump my gas.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

I didn't know Oregon, you can't pump, or you could pump your own gas, but uh a lot of gas stations have people pump it for gas.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

Yeah, I think that's kind of yeah, dog. Um dude, what made you move to Hawaii? Hawaii? Yeah, like why not like man, you know, like say Florida or New Orleans. Like, why specifically Hawaii? What got you here?

Island Move And TikTok Breakthrough

SPEAKER_02 3:04

You know, I always loved the island life, you know, as a kid, and then um, you know, I did live in Florida though. Oh, I did live in Florida though. Okay. Shout out Hurricanes. Shout out I was actually in a military uh town called Pensacola. Okay, okay, I heard that's joint. Yeah, so you know, you know, what made me move here was just, you know, I don't know the people. It was like I kind of blew up on TikTok because I love island music as a little kid, and I kind of blew up on TikTok and people invited me to come here, and then the rest was history. It was just like the people, the love, the culture, everything. It was just insane to me. I never experienced anything like that.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

So you um so you had Ducats saved to move out here, or like was it just one of them man? I finna move the whole eye, man. Man, it was just one of the like a sporadic situation.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

It wasn't it wasn't smart. Uh well, I don't think from like it was smart, but it was just like, you know, what do I have to lose? I'm just a 19-year-old kid.

SPEAKER_01 3:59

So you moved out here at 19? Yeah. Like not knowing nothing, like how much you had in your pockets, like 100?

SPEAKER_02 4:04

Yeah. 200?

SPEAKER_01 4:05

For real?

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Yeah. So I was just door dashing to keep my rental car.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Ah, so hey, so you were just sleeping? Let me see if I'm recording. Oh, I'm recording. Yeah, you're so where where would you stay at then? Like home homies pads or like how how fast did you make friends and shit?

SPEAKER_02 4:17

I made friends and then like I was able to like sleep at like one of my friend's house and then in the morning and just door dash or like create content. But then I finally had a place to stay after.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

Hey, you know what? Shout out to the motherfuckers that like that helped you on your grind, on our grind, like for sure. You know, because there's a lot of cats that like they respect the grind, but they're like, oh man, that shit ain't going nowhere. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? People believed in me, so yeah, I appreciate that for sure. No, man, no, I was watching your shit. I was like, hey man, this motherfucker, hey, he low-key kind of funny. Like, let me so I'm just like, oh man, is this shit um is it all scripted or is it just fresh off?

SPEAKER_02 4:56

Like, I'm finna do this. I don't script nothing, man. I just let shit come. I I let it all come naturally for me, to be honest. Like anything I do, it's all natural. Would you be open to like scripted shit? I mean, if it's for like a movie or something, uh-huh, maybe. But I don't really do nothing scripted. I really haven't. I feel like that's where my content separates from a lot of people because a lot of people like plan out like fake stuff. Me, I just do it. I just give the camera and it's right in that moment.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Really? Have you interviewed anyone like just spot on and no, I never interviewed anyone before. Let me ask you this. When you were doing your when you're doing your skits, right? Yeah, has um like has anyone like looked at you or like discouraged you like at that moment? Like, the fuck is this guy doing that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I deal with that a lot. Like, yeah, how do you how do you deal with that? Like as a content creator, like when people are outside people looking on in, like they get discouraged real fast. Like shit.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Like when people like stare at me or something, look at me when I'm filming a TikTok, it is kind of like I kind of get shy sometimes. But at the same time, then I remember, bro, there's so many people who watch me, so many people who love me, have all these followers, like these people like love what I do, like, you know, and this is my dream. Like, this is literally my dream to do. So, like, F what everyone else has to look at what they say, they ain't paying my bills, they ain't doing nothing for me, but just hating, you know.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Hey, I smell that. I respect the hustle.

SPEAKER_02 6:19

So I just keep it going, I just go.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

I like what I like you said that because uh I'm gonna I don't know. This is when I started this, I had this back thought, I was like, yo, skip if it's cringe because the cringiest, like say the cr the cringiest content, it it what it's what make your character, you know? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like because it's like I don't know. I think cringe is somewhat good because it's like uh you're like uh but then it's to other people, it's like oh shit, he had the balls or she had the balls, yeah. To even like attempt to do, you know, like what you do. Cause I don't I don't see myself as a content creator like that yet. But I don't know. It is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

Everyone's different though. Maybe your path is just a podcast, yeah. Maybe if I try to do podcasting, I want to be the best, but maybe my path is just a content creator, you know. We all got different paths, but just excel what you're good at, man. Just gotta keep it going. Hey, you're doing good, bro. You're your things popping up. You gotta keep posting. You can't worry about the numbers, you can't worry about the numbers.

SPEAKER_01 7:23

Oh dude, oh my god, when I first started this, and I, you know, I'm not real big on the numbers guy, but yeah, I didn't have nobody, right? And then I'd be asking people and they're like, oh man, it costs$300,$400 to get me on. And I'm telling you, like, these are cats like with lesser followers than you. I'm like, what the fuck? I was like, how are you spending that scratch just to talk to someone? Like, not unless you're Michael Jordan. And if you're Michael Jordan, then I'm like, oh dude, yeah, I think I'll drop that 500, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. But like, just for a regular local person, because I remember there's there was this female, she's a model. And when I started out, I reached out to her and she's like, oh, my fee is like 400. And I was like, damn, just to talk to you. It was like, you ain't even, I'm not even horny over you like that. You feel me? Like, I don't even want to smash like that. I just thought you was your, I mean, your content was cool. I just wanted to talk to someone, but a fee 400 is crazy. Dude, yeah, right, just to just to talk, man. And I do appreciate you for not charging me, you know what I'm saying? Because I would have been like, ah, dog. I'm all natural with it. I might have to motherfucking pass on this motherfucker. Nah, nah, nah. I wouldn't charge it. Speaking of content, dog, uh, one of the questions from like uh one of the followers was doo doo doo doo. Oh, what's your purpose as a creator?

Sleeping On Couches And DoorDash Hustle

SPEAKER_02 8:35

My purpose as a creator? Yeah, I think it's to spread the most positivity, make people the most happiness, and give back the most I can while also, you know, trying to tell people don't be afraid to chase your dream. Like, if I was able to do at a young age, why can't you motivate others? That's my purpose of my content. And also just be funny. Like, I don't think anyone should take my content like so seriously. Like, oh my god, he disrespect. No, it's just fun. Like, it's just fun things I just put on camera. Like, I really don't care about like what people think. Like, I just do it for fun. Like, you know, but at the end of the day, I just want to motivate others. That's my purpose.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

Hey, that's cool. Question. Um, speaking of like the whole content and not taking anything serious. Um, another question from someone was the moped incident. You went viral. Some I saw it on TikTok. Someone said something about like you borrowing a moped or some shit. Yeah. What the what's up with that? Because I clearly went, you know, I just swiped up, but what what's up with that? Someone asked me.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

Uh so basically, it kind of gets an old story, but I know I have to deal with it. But uh in Kawaii, you know, I had I borrowed a moped and then it kind of broke down. So like um not your fault when it broke down though, yeah? I mean, it wasn't my fault. Were you jumping? No, no, I was just driving it regular. It broke down. Um, I left it behind and went to go catch a flight. I shouldn't have done that. And then um, you know, I got blasted on Facebook and Instagram for it, and then but then we fixed the situation. We paid uh the kid, like the family. We paid the family for the moped. Or I I paid the family for the moped. And then yeah. But it was like a big situation. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

Dude, get off my boy's dick.

SPEAKER_02 10:11

Hey man, hey, I still gotta deal with it. It's been so long, it's been last year, it's been so long, but you know, it's something I know I have to deal with. It's just like anybody who has a big controversy, they always gonna get asked.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Yeah, I think people just like that. People, um one one of my guests said this a long time ago. People like to see like fail than rather succeed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what makes like their mojo.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

And that was my first like controversy ever, and like as a concept creator, so people are gonna hold that and they love it. But I mean, it's okay though. I mean, it is what it is. I fix the situation and we move on and we learn.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

That's some mature shit.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

So everyone can learn from me.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Oh, hell yeah, dude. I be fucking up a lot. Uh I say the N-word sometimes, I really don't care. I got my card, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to the block. Um, but um, content creating, have you ever tried streaming? Because I know streaming is popping right now.

SPEAKER_02 11:04

I'm more of a streamer now than a content creator because I don't care about the content views anymore, really. I just post, but streaming is way more, you know, where you know you can get places. I like streaming, streaming is where it's at. I'm doing our I got IRL streaming now, but you know, we're gonna plan things for that big IRL streaming. I got the Samsung phone and everything, but yeah, streaming, streaming is cool. I'm into that.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

You said Samsung phone. What does the Samsung phone have over this?

SPEAKER_02 11:30

So the S25 Plus, uh, this is free game for anyone who wants to get an IRL streaming. S25 Plus is what everyone uses because it connects to the towers better. The camera quality, like while streaming, it doesn't drop. Like with iPhones, it drops a lot. And use T Mobile if you want. And that's trash mobile for real? T Mobile with the highest one, it it's better with the service. You can look it up on Chat GPT for streaming.

SPEAKER_01 11:53

No way, it's game.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

I just put you on some game. The S25 is the move, bro. Samsung's lit, but iPhone, I mean the quality is good, but like, you know, for IRL streaming, a lot of big streamers use the S25.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

What got you into streaming?

Scriptless Content And Handling Hate

SPEAKER_02 12:09

Um, it just I feel like it's more I can interact with people more than just a funny little video. But I still do both at a high level, like both I think, um, yeah, like content. Content, it's like you can't interact with them like in the chat. Now you can say like hi to them in the chat with streaming.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

No shit, for real. Yeah, I had a streamer back on the day, her name was um Sasha, and she was putting me and my um me and my co-host game on that. Me, I'm just too ignorant to fucking because I'm I'm I'm just now getting to know what streaming is. Yeah, back in the day, I was like, man, what the fuck is this, you know?

SPEAKER_02 12:47

Now it blew up, now everyone does it.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

Yeah, oh dude, yeah, like when you started, was it just a handful of y'all or was the community already there?

SPEAKER_02 12:57

I've always done streaming since a little kid, but I didn't have enough viewers until like now, until like the last five months where I have viewers on TikTok streaming or whatever. Yeah. But yeah. No, I started I started with everybody else, but it didn't blow up until like this last year. IRL streaming for real, for real.

SPEAKER_01 13:13

IRL? What does that stand for?

SPEAKER_02 13:16

For people that don't know in real life streaming, so like someone just following you around and going around like a whole city or something.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

What do you have to pay that person or the cameraman?

SPEAKER_02 13:25

Yeah, oh yeah, of course. Yeah? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

How if you don't have to answer this, but like on an average, how much a camera guy or girl no bias here, um, could get for being, you know, a camera person.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

For like the top probably in maybe a hundred K.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

A year.

SPEAKER_02 13:47

Uh being a cameraman for someone.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

And this is like you're 24-7 with the person, yeah?

SPEAKER_02 13:52

Yeah. Maybe something like that. I I don't know. I'm not I'm not a big streamer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I never had that, but I would estimate that they get paid pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

Who's your uh who'd you want to meet? Like stream wise. Streamwise? Cause I have I wanna meet I wanna meet two people.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

Who?

SPEAKER_01 14:13

I wanna meet Sinna, because she's been popping up on my TikTok.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

Who's that?

SPEAKER_01 14:19

This female streamer, and then um this dude named Ray, because I like I love him talking shit.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

Oh, the Asian one.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

The Asian dude, yeah. They call him Ray Kwan. Yeah, me personally, I don't know. Like Kai Sinat.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

No, I just like the people in Hawaii that are. Are there are there Hawaiian streamers out here that I haven't really seen any to be like IRL Hawaii streamers? I haven't seen. Oh, really? I haven't seen any either. I've seen people who come from like the like the mainland, like big streamers stream in Hawaii, but I haven't seen that not yet. Maybe I I just be so focused on my own.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Yeah. So speaking of your own, you're going to um you're thinking about doing IRL. Uh is that planning or is it more of just you freestyling everything and then they're just you got your camera, dude.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

Well, sometimes you could plan it.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

Sometimes you could just freestyle it. I feel like you could plan it if you're doing it with someone else, like a another content creator. But I usually just freestyle. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I want to. I just go walk around with the S25. But I'm I'm still new to it, but yeah, that's the next thing for sure I'm getting.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Hey, that's what's up. That's what's up. Underneath your uh your uh your do your do rag, do you have any hair or you you bald? I ball. I I used to be rocking do rag being bald too.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

For real?

SPEAKER_01 15:37

Hell yeah, dawg. Fuck that, dude. Back in the day, I wore a do-rag with a fucking a fitted. The fuck, you know? Hey back back in the day, I used to wear a fucking headband. It was the thing, dog, you know. Dog, it was a thing with a rock aware fit, you know what I'm saying? With some Tim's. Yeah, I mean, dog, Cali got style. I ain't got stuff.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

Yeah, yeah. California got style, you could wear it. Yeah, everyone wears everything.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Oh yeah. That's I mean, that's what I love so much about California because it's it's like Hawaii too, but it's more like a it's a mixing pot of like all kinds of shit.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

But with you know, and you know this too, with Cali, people know if you're from NorCal or SoCal. Yeah, but you're dressed. I'm just like, shit, especially with the Asian females. Yeah, you could tell a Bay Area female to a SoCal chick. And I'm just like the Asians are different. That is that is fucking true.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

I love them. Oh, I miss them, man. That's one thing I miss. I miss the ABGs. Oh, Asian baby girls. But they bet they didn't really fuck with me back then, I ain't gonna lie. Well, like uh back in Cali, they didn't fuck with you. Why not? I don't know. It was always the Latinas that mess with me.

Purpose, Positivity, And The Moped Story

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Ain't nothing wrong with the Latinas though. They just I mean, they just a little crazy. But I mean that's like that shit. Oh, you like what's before we get into these questions, what's the craziest shit that a Latina like did to me? Because I know like because my my wife, she's she's Hispanic. Yeah, but I don't I don't know if I want to put her in that Latina category because she's Mexican, you know what I'm saying? I think Latinas are like more of the you know, the Spaniards and Dominicans and stuff. Yeah, but yeah, what's the craziest thing that Latina has done to me?

SPEAKER_02 17:18

Gosh dang. Probably just try to like fight or something. You yeah, they be crazy, dog, and I just bruh. I would never hit a female, but I wouldn't I would never either, but like that's where like I'm so easy at leaving women, like aren't okay, that sounds bad. But like leaving them alone, like like I'll just like block and like if you ever do some shit, like it just disgustes me out. Yeah. You feel me? Or I had this, oh yeah, this this one Latina, like uh, I was in, so I was in Stockton, I was at Fire Wings. This girl started running after me, bruh. It's in my car, bruh. Cause like, I don't know, she tried to do some weird shit, like not try to set me up or like do some weird stuff, and I was like, what the fuck? So I just ran out and she left her bag and she started running after me, bruh. That shit was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

She got a fat ass though? Nah, she was alright. Oh she was alright. Hey, Latina, man. Um, I heard a lot of stories. I think the craziest Latina story that I have was I think it's when, okay, we were never dating. However, um, we would flirt, and this is when I was in high school. We would flirt around, and this is back at my first job, Monterey Plaza Hotel. She was a um, she worked as a bar, a bar person, and I was I was just a uh I was just a 16-year-old fucking busser. But then she would uh she would give me like major two for talking to other females, and I'm just like, yo, man, I'm just trying to get this, I'm trying to get this tip, you know? Like, I was like, oh yes, ma'am, yes, oh girl, you should have this beer, da da da. And she's like, oh, I didn't like that, da da da. And when they get to all that next swagon, I'm like, oh god, no way.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

You ain't do nothing with her?

SPEAKER_01 18:59

Hell hell no, dude. Crazy dog.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

16-year-old virgin, man. I didn't do I didn't even know how to kiss properly, bro. Man, that's the situation you go all in in, bruh. Nah, man.

SPEAKER_03 19:10

You feel me?

SPEAKER_02 19:11

I'm good with that one, man.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Um, speaking of that, um, high school kid uh was asking, um, what's the easiest way to say hi to a a female?

SPEAKER_02 19:22

What's the easiest way? Yeah. I haven't done it, I haven't done this shit in a while. I ain't gonna lie. Like, usually they just say hi to me because they know me. I'm not I'm not trying to act like I'm big head, but they usually know me from social media, so they say hi to me. But to say to approach like a woman, yeah, bro, you just gotta go up and say hi. Like, where you from? Like, how are you? Like, you just can't be scared, bruh. I feel like if you act like how awkward, like you just gotta go straight into it, bruh. Like, I don't play no games, bruh. Like, and if she says no, fuck it, she says no, bruh. Like, I I really don't be caring.

SPEAKER_01 19:52

I like your answer because going up to like, like, say a woman or you know, a female, um, they remember that. Yeah, it was like, oh, because nine, well, one was okay, two out of ten times, you might see that same, you know, female again, and and she'll remember, you know, that boy or that girl um approaching her because he they had the balls to say what's up. Yeah, but all you gotta do is just say hi. You gotta go all in sometimes. When you say all in, what what do what do you mean by that? Like you gotta go say hi to that. Like nice shoes wanna fuck. What's that?

SPEAKER_02 20:26

Nah, nah, nah, not yet. You gotta you gotta fill the room before that, man. But you just gotta go all in. But it's kind of hard because like and like to approach people, approach women nowadays. Everyone like on this island, like kind of knows me from like social media, so like I don't know what reaction I could get. Like I could get a very cool reaction because they don't like me because my concert, or I could get a good, or then you know, they could have a boyfriend, and then now I have beef. Like, it's kind of crazy for me nowadays, so I just stay away from it.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

Question with the um, you know, being on the island, have you ever like walked around without the do-rag? And do people still notice you?

SPEAKER_02 21:00

No, I was thinking about a prank video of doing that, like walking around without the do-rag and seeing anyone. Yeah, seriously, like see if anyone knows you, right? Nah, but I haven't yet. I think it's just a little uh like a like a funny trademark of me. Yeah, yeah. Like to have the do-rag always on, so I just kept it that way.

Why Streaming Wins Over Short Clips

SPEAKER_01 21:15

Bro, let me tell you this, because um I'm in the military, right? Yeah, the guard. Uh the first time that I wore a do-rag in the in the field, because I was keeping my hair flat, you know what I'm saying? Like I was brushing it, I was waving it. Um, they're like, dude, you're brown. Why the fuck are you wearing that? I was like, dog, your your feet's ugly. Why you still wearing slippers? You know, like I'm like, dog, why can't I wear a do-rag? But yeah, they've never seen like a brown person wore a do-rag before. And I was like, dog, because I have all colors, you know what I'm saying? Like anything that matches my shoes, I'll wear it. You know?

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

So um, yeah, dude, the the whole do rag thing. Now I'm seeing a lot of kids wearing do rags because I mean, I don't see a lot of you know kids getting raided, but they're wearing it to get their, you know. To keep their braids in. Yeah. So I'm just like, dude, fucking more power to you. Yeah, yeah. My little boy, like, he had long, you know, beautiful hair, and we used to braid him up. And he wore durags to school and like and shit. And kids would be like, Oh, what is that? And I'm just like, dog, it's a you see how crisp his shit is, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, dude. And also, like, when your shit itches, you know, you can't, you gotta like tap it, you know what I'm saying? So-rags are lit, bro. Hey, dude, I love do-rags, bro. Yeah, I love them. Uh let's get to these questions. Um, dude, one of them, how to deal with growth and challenges. How do you deal with that?

SPEAKER_02 22:33

But girls and challenges, to be honest, bro. Like, I'm in a point in my life where I don't even I don't want a girlfriend. I don't want none of that. Like in my life. So I deal with it. Oh, growth. Not growth. Growth. How do you grow with I was like, girls and challenges?

SPEAKER_01 22:46

I'm like, bruh, at this point in my life, I don't even want none of that. Uh-huh. But yeah, growth and challenges. Like, how do you deal with you know the challenges that you come up with like on a day-to-day, and you're like, you're growing, you know?

SPEAKER_02 22:58

Uh the growth and challenges, how I deal with it, is just, man, I just try to give it all up to God, to be honest. Because I try not to stress myself out too much about situations I can't control. So, like, I always try to give it up to God and just stay level-headed and just you know have a positive attitude or anything. That's how I deal with all my growth and challenges.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

That answer is super legit. And um, I'm like, I'm humbled that you're here, and I'm so happy that you aren't like that big headed of a person because of your following.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

Oh, ham.

SPEAKER_01 23:26

Because there's people, you know, they they hit that 10k and they're like, shit, I ain't fucking with you. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've known, like, I've came across people like that, and I'm just like, dog, you ain't even lit like that, bro. You know, you're not even on that type of time. Just chill. But like the people that, you know, just like you, you know, like 25k and up, and they're still down to earth. Like, I respect that shit.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

Yeah, I try.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

So my next follow-up question to that is, you know, you have a big following. How is it when people are like asking you for pictures or are they coming up to you saying, hey, are you that guy?

SPEAKER_02 24:03

On yeah, like does do you get awkward or um I just get a super like uh not embarrassed, but I get super like happy because I feel like bro, someone rec recognizing me from the internet. That's kind of crazy. Like, I used to like a year ago, like where I live, like all I would do is door dash all day and have like nothing. So I think it's just such super blessed that someone would even want to take a picture with me. I'm always open to it. I'll never say no to a picture. I don't care if I'm late. I mean, bruh, if I'm late to the airport, bro, we gotta start moving while we do it. But I'm oh I'm open to anything. Like, I don't I don't care. Like, I ain't that big, I ain't a big head person who thinks I'm too good for a picture. Hell no, I'm only down for a picture or TikTok anything. We can always ask me and we can always do it.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Have has have you ever been in like an awkward situation where let's say you're eating dinner with your like your family and then someone recognizes you and they ask, Yeah, are you are you down for a picture or would you be like, hey yeah, can I eat first? Or I'm down. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

I don't care. I'll tell everybody it's time to take a picture.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Even in the bathroom?

unknown 25:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

When you're finna take a shit?

SPEAKER_02 25:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

Dude, I think I'd be like, yo, can you give me like five minutes? I gotta take a shit.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Nah, I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

Oh no? Oh dude, I I I I think I would have to. I'll be like, hey dude, um, wanna take a picture in the salt? Nah, I'm always down, bro.

SPEAKER_02 25:15

Hey, nah, dude, that's what I'm saying. I really don't care.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

Anytime, anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

Yeah.

IRL Gear, Carriers, And Growth

SPEAKER_01 25:22

Hey dude, next time I see you on the street, if I'm ever on the street, because I'm always at home, yeah. I'm gonna be like, hey, Swabay! Yeah. Hooray! Yeah, hey, hell yeah. Next question. Um, what are your goals in life and have you accomplished any of them?

SPEAKER_02 25:35

Uh my goals in life. Man, my number one goal is to be have a kid and like be the best father, but I haven't been able to accomplish that because I ain't found the right woman. You feel me? I think that's my number one goal out of everything. It's just to be the best father and have a kid.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

Oh, that's that's like that's the long-term goal?

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Man, whenever it comes, goals, it could happen tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

Uh oh.

SPEAKER_02 25:58

But I just want to be the best father I could ever be. That's like my number one goal of all time. Yeah. And then have a kid who chases his dream. That's it, because you know, I didn't grow up with like a father until I didn't meet my father until I was like 14.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

Oh, worried.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

So like for me, it's like, you know, I gotta I wanna like that's my number one goal of all time.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

To um to be like a dope ass dad.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

You with you saying that, how what kind of fatherly approach, you know, like Suave now, how what kind of approach would you do? Would you be like the friend dad? Would you be like the more stern dad?

SPEAKER_02 26:31

Would you be I feel like I'll be like, you know, understanding, but like, you know, telling him, you know, these are the priorities. Like I didn't when I was growing up, I didn't have no one to tell me, oh, the priorities is this, and you're not supposed to be focusing on women, like stuff like that. Like I had to learn like a lot of stuff on my like by myself, like, you know, through my own experiences. So as a man now that I was able to learn all those experiences I could just engrave into him.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

As a parent, um, it's I draw that line from like friend parent, you know. Because um, I have an older one, she's 21, and I've I've given her all the gems and all the answers, you know. Yeah, but it was up, it was all up to her to like I guess experiencing them first, and then she would come back and say, Dad, you were right. So it's like them hit their Yeah, yeah, you gotta give them, you gotta give them, you gotta give it to them. And then, yeah, but then now these dude, I have a 10 and an eight-year-old, these motherfuckers are running me ragged, man. They talking back. I'm just like, shit. But the whole disciplinary thing, it's like, yo, I'm a parent first before a friend. Yeah, I can't, dude. I I can't see myself being my kid's friend, you know?

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Yeah, they won't respect you if they just see you as a friend.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

You think so? Or you know so?

SPEAKER_02 27:43

Yeah, for sure. Cause like, bruh, if if they know you you're just gonna be a friend and not discipline them, you know, you just always gotta make sure there's that level.

SPEAKER_01 27:51

Yeah. Do you think discipline has gotten soft throughout the years?

SPEAKER_02 27:55

Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. I feel like it has. It's just the times have changed, you know, for everything. Like, it's just a new generation.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

Have you grew up in the generation where you got your ass whooped?

SPEAKER_02 28:07

Yeah, I always me too. I got I got whipped with a belt. But that was until I was like 15, and then I became too fast running around the house.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Woo! Yeah. That's what hey, uh, that last guest, uh, T. Yeah, she said she was gonna slap me, and I was like, nah, man, you gotta catch me first.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Oh, she was trying to do that on camera?

SPEAKER_01 28:23

Oh, I got her slapping my hand, but she didn't slap me in the face.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

Did you just let her slap you? Man, but dog, I no. I just seen that video the other day, bruh.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

I was like, When she slap that uh that dude with the mustache? Yeah, dog. I I ain't letting no female slap me, dog. Yeah, uh that's kind of degrading, I'm not gonna lie. Um, dude, I don't know if it's degrading. I just don't want I just don't want no hands touching my face, man. A moneymaker, dawg fuck, like shout out to her, she pretty funny.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

I saw it.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

No, she's funny as fuck. She funny. But um, she slapped my hand, right? Because I put my hand out like this, and I was like, yo, 80%. Dude, she slapped it. My she she missed my hand, but she hit the very top of it. I felt it, and she was like, yo, that's not even, that was like 40%. I was like, fuck. Imagine if you went like a hundred. Because I've seen her videos, and dude, the and she'd be taking it too. I'm just I was like, oh no, I can't do that, dude. Because the last slap competition. Yeah, the power slap competition. Yeah, I've seen that shit and I'm just like, dog, I can't do it. Because the last time I got in a fight, my tooth fell out. So I'm just like, dog, I'm good.

SPEAKER_03 29:22

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

I'm good, dog. I'm good. Uh next question. Uh dude. Dude, what is one or what's one of men's biggest flaws?

SPEAKER_02 29:32

Biggest flaws of men.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

I think nowadays is being able to make a woman feel like she can have a man who provides and protect for her. Mmm, I respect that. That's respect, yeah. That's a uh thing, because that's why women have a hard time like trusting into a man and like, you know, not obeying a man, but like, you know, submitting to a man nowadays, because I I I feel like they fail, or men fail to provide them that reassurance.

SPEAKER_01 29:58

Really? I think like as a like me right now, and then like going through like these stages in my life, I think for us men, I think we get there's a point where we get into our feels and we just can't get out of it. Yeah. I think that's one real big flaws.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

You can't have no feelings, bro. You gotta be.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

Oh yeah, but I mean shit, like when I don't know, man, because I there was a time where fuck, like I didn't have enough money for mortgage and shit, or like to pay things off because you know, my spouse, she she wasn't working at the time. I got out of the military, because you know, in the military, they pay for everything when you become a civilian, uh, all that shit's like gone. So there were like there was a time or two where I was on the you know in traffic, and I'm just like, fuck, this is fucking hard. Like, I got into my feels like deep. And my wife, like, shout out to my wife. She brought my daughter out here to because she knew like I was like down. Like I didn't want to do anything. I I didn't want to have anything to do with my little my little ones. I was like super distant. So I think like when you when a man gets into his feelings, it's uh he becomes like super um, there's a word for it. He he he's away from everyone, like yeah. Has that has that ever happened to you? Yeah. Where you like you just become distant. Yeah, like distant.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

I can't like stress and distance, but then at the end of the day, the next day, you just gotta put back on your working booth and get back to it and find a way. Yeah, it's all about finding a way as a man. It's not like if you're a man and you give up, that's like that's crazy. But like if you just find keep finding ways to make it happen, you just gotta find a way to make it happen. And any man who has a hardworking mentality can make that happen.

Confidence, Approaching Women, And Fame

SPEAKER_01 31:46

That's facts. Because every day, like I still went to work, you know, like I still had that nine to five. Um, it was just my demeanor was just like, damn. Like, cause you know, I'm so so deep in my head. Yeah, yeah, man. It's fucking sucks.

SPEAKER_02 32:02

Oh man, I feel it, bro.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

Man, next question. Uh men being princesses. When did the role switch?

SPEAKER_02 32:12

To when men started becoming more feminine?

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Yeah, not even feminine, but like, oh, I'm the prize, or when men's like, oh, I want the female to open the door for me, or the women should buy me shit.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

What do you think you alright?

SPEAKER_01 32:23

I have a question. Do you think a man's the prize or a woman's the prize? Ooh, I'm gonna get a lot of hate. I on me, okay, go.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

No, what you can say I think a man's the prize.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

Same.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

It is though, because you can find you can find a lot of pretty women everywhere, but like, bro, a man who's wants to take care, like, you can find any man to take care of you right at like a star, like, not to bash on anyone, but like at a Starbucks or whatever, anywhere, anywhere, who will cherish you, but women don't want that. They want a man who like the high status and like you know you feel me? Mm-hmm. So what do you think though?

SPEAKER_01 32:58

I think, and me and my wife got in this argument, or this real big argument, I think I'll I'm the prize. Because at the end of the day, when your tire blows out, who's fixing it? Yeah. If you're walking down the street and someone steals your purse, who's chasing, who's chasing that someone?

SPEAKER_03 33:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

You know what I'm saying? Or you have a weak man, bro. You can't do nothing. I'll just buy you another purse. You got another girl in the house. Yeah. So it's like, I mean, I I hate doing it, but you know, like I I just want to say I'm the prize because also, and I'm not trying to bash my wife or like any woman that's like not working full-time, but I am the breadwinner. So therefore, like I put myself to a higher, you know, like to a higher standard. And also, like, I've been through a lot of shit. And I I I hurdled a lot. So therefore, you know, I have that confidence to where, man, I'm the prize. Now, if a woman feels that about herself, like, yo, I'm the prize, well then, you know, totally like mutual respect to that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

But at the end of the day, men have to bring value that they have to earn. Women could just be pretty in it. Like, shout out all the pretty women, but pretty women could get them like far, like anywhere. But men have to actually like work and they have to work, yeah. They have to bring something to the table. Women could just bring just being beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

Oh, I hate that. Oh my gosh, like you could have no work experience, yeah, and then you have a you know, a pretty face. OnlyFans, you're a millionaire now, bro. Oh my god, yeah, there's more than is on on OnlyFans. I mean, there's some guys on there, but if you look at if you look at the statistics, it's more women. Yeah. Because women like to look at women, guys like to look at women.

SPEAKER_02 34:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Only a select only a certain percentage of men would like to look at other men. You know? Even and even if you're, you know, if you swing that way, sometimes you would look at a woman too.

SPEAKER_02 34:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

So, I mean, women, they help they hold a lot of cards, and they're like in a real big advantage. Yeah, you know? Ah, damn, but I love y'all, man. Shout out to y'all. Thank you for taking care of us and shit. Taking care of the home, man. Cool. Next question. Um, dude, do we really need women? Yeah, we do. Do guys really need women?

SPEAKER_02 35:18

Yeah, yeah, I hey, we do, bro. Hey, something does to me. Like, I can hang around guys all day, but sometimes you just need you just need you just need to be around a woman or like something or just smell a woman or something, bro. I can't be around sausages all day. That feminine energy. Yeah, we need women 100%. There's no ifs or buts. I love women with all my heart. Like, we need them.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

I was in um, I was talking to the boys, and this is like during one of our like our guard time, right? And I I threw this question out, and one of them was like, nah, we don't need it because we could make ourselves nut. You know what I'm saying? Like, we could jack off, we're done, you know what I'm saying? Um, we can make our own food. We could, you know, we could do everything that a woman does except for, you know, getting that vag. Yeah. You know? I was like, oh, you it's like you make a good point, but I mean, I'm not willing to kiss a man, dude. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to get hugged by a man. Like, if I mean, if it's a big guy that's like a bear and shit, yeah, you know, I'm like, hey, hug me, you know what I'm saying? But to cuddle with, I'm not cuddling with no guy.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

It's just the difference in hugging a woman and like feeling her energy and feeling like the scent. Yes. Of course they smell so different. And plus, like, like how God made it, like, a man and a woman are the perfect combination together. Yes. You feel me? She does stuff that's way better than we could ever do. We do stuff that we're way better than they could ever do. Yeah. So when we come together, we're the perfect team. So I feel like in this world, of course, we need women. But to be a successful man, you don't like, you know, you don't need to be, but I feel like you know, it's a good addition.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

It is, it definitely is. Um I always told myself this, and this is before like I met my wife, before everything, I was a single parent. And I was like, yo, I am not marrying anyone because I could do this on my own. Like I raised my kid by myself, right? And then when she came in the picture, I was like, yo, it got easier. But I was still doing it on my own, but like after like letting her in, the whole family aspect became super easy. Yeah, yeah. So like that's what I love about perfect when two come together.

SPEAKER_02 37:22

Yeah, I'm just like, man.

SPEAKER_01 37:24

We need them.

SPEAKER_02 37:25

Oh, definitely. Okay, definitely. Because I don't I don't get well, maybe it's different for other people. I don't get turned on looking at man. Oh, yeah, neither do I. Neither do I'm different, man, but for me, bruh. Like, you know, we always need that other part, that other half. I feel like that's good.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

Yeah, definitely. Next one, um, men embracing their body. So this was asked by um by a guy. Yeah. Uh how do how does a man like embrace their body in this type of you know, world right now?

SPEAKER_02 37:59

Man, I feel like you just gotta keep yourself healthy. I mean, bruh, I've been getting fat, I ain't gonna lie. I have about like you just gotta embrace, like, I feel like, bruh, there's fat guys who have bad women. Like, you feel me? You just gotta, you just gotta build your value as a man, bro.

Fatherhood Goals And Discipline Today

SPEAKER_01 38:13

Oh, yeah. You gotta bring value. I feel that. I feel that. Like, I'm I'm embracing my dad bot right now. Like, I love my dad bod. It's like it's it's an athletic dad bot, so I don't, it's like I don't I don't have to go to the gym all the fun time. I only go to the gym just because it's like it's a stress reliever, you know? Yeah, and um, I don't want to be six years old and I can't run with my kids.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

Man, I need to fix myself. I've been getting fat and you good. I ain't eating a lot, but I'm I'm I'm about to fix it, but like you just gotta stay in like a healthy, like you don't gotta be the perfect, bruh. Yeah, exactly. You just gotta bring value as a man, bro. Cause there's so many fat, old, ugly men who just have the baddest chicks because they have a lot of value. Yeah. Only for you feel me? Like, there's there's so much, like, bruh. You just gotta bring value, bro, and just embrace who you are, bro.

SPEAKER_01 39:01

Uh nope, can't say it any better. Uh with this whole like, do you think body shaping is like big now than it was before?

SPEAKER_02 39:11

Oh, hell yeah. But I think body shaping is a good thing. Because when people tell me I've been getting fatter and I've been like that, I'm like, oh shit, bro, I actually need to go hit the gym. Uh-huh. And I know because I've been eating crazy, bro, but like I'm gonna chill off now. But like, I think body shaming is a good thing. Really? Yeah, because like at least people are caring. They want you to look, they're just telling you fat. Don't you get tired of that shit? You're like people tell you fat 24-7, you're gonna be like, fuck, bro. Maybe I should just work out.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

How do you tell like a loved one that then?

SPEAKER_02 39:39

You just gotta tell them how it is.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

Yeah?

SPEAKER_02 39:42

But it's kind of hard though. Or like for a girl, but like sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

Yeah, like how would you tell your woman she's getting big? If there is a right answer for that. I don't think there's you just gotta start doing workouts after you wanna join it. Really? So you're doing a push-up, like, hey, babe.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

Wanna do couple? But for a guy though, you just gotta tell him how it is, because that's your brother.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

I think I I think it's easier for like guy to guy.

SPEAKER_02 40:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how you your ass game fat, bro. You gotta work out. But like, I think body shaman is a good thing, though. Mm-hmm. To an extent. Yeah, to an extent. But I think it's good motivation.

SPEAKER_01 40:19

Yeah, it could be it could be motivational, but then it could also be, and I'm trying to see it like from the outside looking in, it could also be like de detrimental to like the other person as well, you know?

SPEAKER_02 40:28

Yeah, that should be her.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

It's like uh so it's like it's a 50-fitty. Yeah, man, fuck that shit. Mm-mm. Damn. How would you tell your wife if she Man, don't don't ask me, dude. Okay, so all don't give a fuck, Chris, would would be like, hey man, you're fat, let's go. You know, like I would say it's straight, but now it's more like I have to be strategic. So it's more like hey, I'm walking a dog, you wanna come? Or um I'm fitting, I'm finna eat like this. Would you want some? And I eat, I try to eat clean, I try to eat healthy, you know, because um my lung capacity ain't that good as anymore. But um, yeah, I just try to throw in like little subtle hints. But sometimes, like, if they don't understand it, I don't know, like as a as a man, it's like you know, happy, happy wife, happy life. Yeah, it's like you don't want to sleep on that couch dog. So sometimes you gotta take the bullet.

SPEAKER_02 41:26

So what if let's say your wife put on 200 pounds, what would you do?

SPEAKER_01 41:30

I'd be like, ooh. Hey, how many left? Um, I think I would do a before and after.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

Oh, you try to start that with her?

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Yeah, I think oh before like so you wouldn't leave, you would stay? Ooh. I think I would no, I would I would definitely stay, but if it gets too much and like it's oh my god. That's a good question, dude. No, you know what? I'm gonna stay. But if her eating habits is go is is going into like my mortgage money, my electric money, then we would have a serious talk. And if that's still going, then I would have to leave.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

Hey, if I woman need love too, you know, woman need love too, Craig. In your prime day, what was this crazy? Have you ever took down a big girl before?

SPEAKER_01 42:21

Oh yeah. A lot.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

What's the heaviest?

SPEAKER_01 42:24

Oh, what's the heaviest? Oh shit, dude. Oh man. She waited, I know she weighed more than me. Where was this at? Dude, this was back home in Cali. This is way before I met my wife. This is okay, this is before I met my wife. This is after my uh my baby mama. So I was going through like this whore phase. So I was trying anything and everything, you know, because I finally, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm I'm I'm finally, I don't want to say free, but my baby mama broke up with me. And like, you know, I'm a single parent and I'm just going through it. Yeah, I went through I went through a phase and I had my fair share of um big boned women and um they make great love. The uh the canoodling was great.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

So what happened? Get into detail. I want to know.

SPEAKER_01 43:16

Oh man, um so uh their their foreplay. How did you meet her? How did you meet her? Oh dude, um work Tinder. Oh, work right. No, we didn't have Tinder back in the day. Oh, okay. So while growing up, we didn't have Tinder, so we had to meet people like organically. Yeah, so like face-to-face type shit. Yeah. So one would be like at work, and it would be like a coworker, and then a friend of a friend. Those are like my three main ones co worker, friend of a friend, or what else did I say? Yeah, whatever. So what? So you was at work, you met this big girl. Yeah, like uh never found never found her attractive. She was just Cool to hang out with.

SPEAKER_02 44:01

And then how did it lead to that? Where did you guys go?

SPEAKER_01 44:03

Oh, how elite? Okay. Um, got high.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

I'm the podcaster now.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Yeah, you are. So we got high, and then um Doug, it was just one of those uh we're so cool. It was one of those. Hey, let me try it one time, and then that's how it happened.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

So you never touched her before or anything?

SPEAKER_01 44:23

No, no. It was always like it was almost like you was in a car, like No, we're so we're just smoking, and then we had a conversation in her car in her whip.

unknown 44:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Yeah, so we were we would have a conversation and then and this is when I was single, we would have a conversation, and then it went out to like, hey man, would you ever like give a motherfucker a pass? You know, just like a You really asked her. Yeah, because we were that. Look, no, not me, but like, would you ever let a friend, like, would you ever give out a friend pass? And she was like, Yeah, you know, just a one-time thing, yeah. I was like, alright, bet, you know, like one day I'll cash this in. And she was like, you know, we're high and shit, so it's like, oh, okay. So I cashed it in one time, and then I was like, ah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

The car?

SPEAKER_01 45:05

Nah, it was it was at her pad.

Men’s Flaws, Feelings, And Resilience

SPEAKER_02 45:08

Pad, what's that? Oh, her house. Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

Yeah, and I was like, ah, so this is it.

unknown 45:14

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 45:15

It was good. Did you go in raw? No, hell no, no way.

SPEAKER_03 45:18

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

No way. I got tested when I was in my horror phase, I got tested twice a year. And um, this is one of those testings where you know they had to spread the hole and they put a Q-tip in. Have you ever experienced that?

SPEAKER_02 45:33

No, but I know as a little kid I probably messed around with that. Like with a headphone jack or something.

SPEAKER_01 45:40

That shit hurts as hell, dog. Did they ever come positive? Fuck no, dude. I was safe as a hell.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

Would you share it on the podcast?

SPEAKER_01 45:48

Fuck yeah, I will. I'm like, uh you don't care because you're married already. I really, I really, I really don't, man. Like, I'm an open book. So yeah, that's how it happens in the other times with like very large women. Um pick her up. Fuck no, dude. It was either either on her back or fat women.

SPEAKER_00 46:06

And I don't write fat women, bro.

SPEAKER_02 46:08

Fat women deserve love, in my opinion, but like, you know, yeah, we I love, man, every time.

SPEAKER_01 46:14

Oh man, hell yeah. I hate the skinny ones because it's like say, if you ever hit it from the back and you see that spinal cord, that oh, my boner's gone, dude. Have you seen that before? Or like if I see like a pelvic line or a pelvic bone, dude, I'm done.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

Hey, once I'm in, it's already too late, bro.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

Oh, you're finishing.

SPEAKER_02 46:37

No. Like, there ain't nothing that's gonna turn me off, really.

SPEAKER_01 46:41

Oh, dude. I got speaking of that, do you think women, like, does it destroy their ego when we get soft?

SPEAKER_02 46:50

I never thought about that, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

You know?

SPEAKER_02 46:54

I don't really care. Once once once you already take everything off and I take everything off, man.

SPEAKER_01 46:59

I think a woman does like get kind of hurt. Oh, yeah. When a man like gets soft and just and they're just like, yeah. I think that it's one of those. Ugh.

SPEAKER_02 47:10

I never talked this freaky on a podcast before. I think everybody in Hawaii thinks I'm a virgin. Oh, for real? Why's that? I don't know. I don't think they could imagine me ever.

SPEAKER_01 47:19

What the fuck? I mean, I don't know. I don't know why. Like, nah, man, you you had you you you must have had like your fair share of vag like thrown your way. Yeah, see? I don't know. Oh man, you had your man. A man at least had like his fair share. It's just uh it's up to us if we reciprocate, you know, that info. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 47:46

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:48

Let me ask you this then. Uh does good head does that get deserve their light bill um pay for?

SPEAKER_02 47:58

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:00

Yeah?

SPEAKER_02 48:00

Good head could get you a lot of places.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

Would you rather a good head or a good pussy? As a man, are you more good head? Yeah, me too, dog.

SPEAKER_02 48:12

I feel like, you know, I I feel like the coochie is like it's the same, like, not the same, but like everyone has that. But not everybody has good head.

SPEAKER_01 48:21

This is real. This is true.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

Everybody has coochie. Falace, it's real. Everybody coochie get wet, unless you have like a disorder or something. Everyone coochie get wet, right? But head is like, you know, it's acquired, it's an acquired uh like a form of art. You feel me? Like a form of art that a woman has to learn. Oh, this sounds so slutty, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

Oh my god, I I don't like that, dude. Feel gotta learn it. I was like, dog. And I, you know, I got a daughter, so I'm just like, dog, I hope my daughter turns out to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

No, that's the type of stuff like when you talk about this and you're like, damn, if I have a daughter.

SPEAKER_01 48:53

Damn, my daughter.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

But it's the way of life though, isn't it? No, it is not the way of life, you feel me? Like everybody does it, bro. Yo, grandpa, yo daddy, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:02

I mean, I got my stroke from Ron Jeremy.

SPEAKER_02 49:05

What age did you lose your virginity?

SPEAKER_01 49:06

Dude, I was fucking after high school. I was like 18, dude. 17, 18, 19. Yeah, I was there. Like, I wasn't. Dog, I told you, like, I didn't even I didn't even kiss my first girl until like I was 16 or something. Or hold the girl's hand. Yeah, dog. I was that nerd. How about you?

SPEAKER_02 49:27

I think I was 16.

SPEAKER_01 49:28

16?

SPEAKER_02 49:29

In a target bathroom.

SPEAKER_01 49:31

In a target bathroom in Hawaii. Nah, hang on. Stockton.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

I I haven't been to Hawaii. I've only been here since I was a year or like seven months.

SPEAKER_01 49:40

Alright, so let me see if I have time left. Oh yeah, we do. So, question.

SPEAKER_03 49:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

16, target bathroom, and I'm gonna assuming what was this a girlfriend or was just like one of the. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

No names though, no names. No name, no name.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

So the girlfriend, was she already experienced or no no no, we were both versions. So why the bathroom and not like let's say your pads?

SPEAKER_02 50:06

As kids, I guess you can't you can't bring like other people over to like your house like that. Okay, okay. There was a family bathroom, and we went in it, and then you know, I I didn't know what I was doing, man. I just you know how you know we all watch it on the video, but never really know how to do it until you're in person.

SPEAKER_01 50:23

Oh uh, did you have protection or no?

SPEAKER_02 50:28

Uh I tried. I tried to use it, but I didn't know how to put it on, so I used no.

SPEAKER_01 50:33

So none.

unknown 50:34

No.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

I remember not using it for the first time, and oh my gosh, I was so fast. I was like, I was a two-pump chump. I was like, oh because you know, like, if you have it on, it's a different feeling, you know, opposed to not having it on. Yeah. So I'm just like, holy crap. And then they came up with these new condoms, and I tried one and I was like, Doc, this is the same, man. I'm just going in raw. You know.

SPEAKER_02 51:01

Oh, you still don't even know how to put one on to this day.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

Oh, for real? Uh uh sexual education video.

SPEAKER_02 51:08

Man.

SPEAKER_01 51:09

That'll make you some money. You know, like how to properly, as a guy, put it on. Or a female.

SPEAKER_02 51:16

I have a real ass question. Do you think it's gay for a men to get their ass eight? I'm asking you the real question. That's the real spicy podcast question. Is it is it gay?

SPEAKER_01 51:27

Man, I don't know, man. It's no, I don't think it's gay. Because I got I got mine several times, and I'm just like, oh now, inserting something in.

SPEAKER_03 51:40

That's different.

Who’s The Prize And Value Building

SPEAKER_01 51:41

That's different. You insert something in, that's different. But if we're just like, you know, if she's like tickling it or, you know, just licking it, because it you'll be it it goes up to the chode, right? Yeah. It's like it though. I wouldn't I wouldn't want it all the time. Put it that way. Are you standing back? Oh no, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on my back, dude. Uh because if you're like a baby game, you're like a baby game, if you're on all fours, I think that's kind of f If's, I think that's kind of fruity. Because you're like, you're in that position already, you know. But if you're on your back, then I think you still kinda have the power. Because if like say, if something does get inserted, you could be like, ugh. But if you're like back and they're like, dude, what are you gonna do? You know what I'm saying? Clinch your asshole?

SPEAKER_02 52:35

Hell no.

SPEAKER_01 52:36

How about you?

SPEAKER_02 52:37

Do you think it's No, I don't think it's gay.

SPEAKER_01 52:39

No?

SPEAKER_02 52:39

I think it's normal.

SPEAKER_01 52:40

It's normal.

SPEAKER_02 52:42

So you I don't yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:44

So we if you had a choice to get it every day.

SPEAKER_02 52:46

Yeah, but like probably once a week. I don't think that's weird. People try to make it weird, but if a woman really loves you, she'll do that. I don't think it's weird if you eat a woman's ass either. Oh no. After the shower? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think that's normal. Oh yeah. I think people who just are not that freaked out, but you feel me?

SPEAKER_01 53:04

Mmm. I think I I Oh dude, it's normal. I think I think it's a normal thing. Get my ass ate. Nah, I'm not I'm not a big fan, but when it does happen, I'm like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

But I'm not asking. So did you ask for it or she just did it?

SPEAKER_01 53:19

It was one of those situations where the mood was right, everything was just the stars aligned and shit, and it just it it happened. You know, but it wasn't me like, hey man, eat my ass.

SPEAKER_00 53:31

I don't think a man can ask a woman. Like, I think a girl eat my ass, man. How my ass tastes.

SPEAKER_01 53:36

I think oh man. Um what was the weirdest thing a chick done in bed?

SPEAKER_02 53:48

Weirdest thing?

SPEAKER_01 53:49

Yeah. Or were like you were just like, nah man, this ain't right. I'm I'm okay.

SPEAKER_02 53:55

Probably like probably like play around and like bite like the tit? Like play around, but that shit actually hurts.

SPEAKER_01 54:03

Yeah, we're sensitive down there, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 54:06

Like, I was like, oh fuck, bruh, that shit actually hurts, bro. Uh-huh. Chill. I think the very on purpose though, she tried to bite it.

SPEAKER_01 54:12

Wait, she bit it on purpose?

SPEAKER_02 54:13

Yeah, like I was like, what the fuck? I ain't freaking.

SPEAKER_01 54:16

Like the tip she bit the tip on purpose and she thought it was good.

SPEAKER_02 54:19

Yeah. No, no, no, she did that shit on purpose, but it just turned me off. I was like, that's when I was in high. I think when I was in California, I ain't that freaked out anymore. I don't be doing that shit. I'd be focused on my goals now. You feel me? But like back then I used to- I mean I was a high schooler.

SPEAKER_01 54:34

Let me ask you this about goals then before we dip out. When a man is like so girl crazy, how does he get back on track of like being like goal setting again? You know, like, you know, because a guy, as uh as guys, you know, we're we're focused, right? But then sometimes we get that that stray woman that just veers us off. Yeah, how do we get back on that on that road?

SPEAKER_02 55:03

Like if that shit's happening, you gotta think about it. Do I even have a hundred K? Like, do I even have money in my damn bank account to even be chasing this woman? That shit that shit should humble you. Can I even like, you know, you feel me? Like, it's just like you just gotta think of like if a woman's trying to take you off the path, but you're like, bro, do I even got my life together? I think that humbles you when I think about it. You just gotta think about do I have my life together before a woman tries to ruin my shit? Like, you can't afford that woman, right? But you're trying to chase her and shit. If it comes down to it.

SPEAKER_01 55:34

What's the um have you ever simped over uh a female before?

SPEAKER_02 55:39

Hell yeah, hell a time.

SPEAKER_01 55:40

Yeah, perfectly natural, right?

SPEAKER_02 55:43

I'm done with that shit though.

SPEAKER_01 55:44

You're done? Why why why are you done with it? Because of I've had this discussion with like, and this is outside the pod of men simping over women. I um and when I heard this point of view, like it got me thinking, it was like, what's wrong with like trying to romanticize a woman? But there's a difference between romanticizing and simping. Yeah. Would you happen to know, or do you have your own romanticizing and simping?

SPEAKER_02 56:13

I feel like romanticizing is love, but simping is just like you're going overboard, like you're checking your phone, you're like checking her location, going crazy. I feel like that's just simping, like you're going crazy. But I just feel like bruh, there's no point in that, bro. She ain't even putting no money in your pocket.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

Oh, this is true.

SPEAKER_02 56:33

And you're out here simping, and she don't care, she could leave you for another man just like that.

SPEAKER_01 56:37

This is true, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:38

And then you're out looking stupid when spending all your money cash upping her for her nails and shit. Yeah, and you're just next one just like that, and another man spending money.

SPEAKER_01 56:48

A lot of women's gonna hate me for this. But um when females, you know, like these grown women saying like I'm a bad bitch and all this shit, and they still living with and they don't own I'm like, dog, how bad of a bitch are you if you're you know if you're if you're calling yourself that, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 57:08

No looks get you a long way.

SPEAKER_01 57:10

No, that's real.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

A pretty, a pretty 20-year-old could get up on a boat with freaking Larry Allison or some of these big namers just by being pretty and young. Fuck that, dude. Let me be But that's just the difference between men and women, like, you know, women, like they have their time gap of when they're pretty before the age starts hitting them, yeah. The kids start hitting them, and then their looks go away, they're like, damn. But then men, we only could keep elevating until 30 when we have our own businesses, yachts, stuff like that. But women, they have their time where they have fun, and then it hits them. Like turn that 30, then everything starts declining.

SPEAKER_01 57:46

Dude, this is true, and I'm like, I give it up to the women that like they don't use, you know, their beauty for you know, like of course some women could use their beauty as like an advantage, yeah, but like if they have the smarts and stuff and they're using their smarts too and their skills, and I'm not talking about like sexually or anything, like your brain and everything, yeah, then I think like they have a they're they're pretty much set.

SPEAKER_02 58:12

Women have a time window of their life of their looks, yeah, of their looks. You know, so they start getting mad at the young girls coming in, taking their spot, and then they're starting to get old, and then the millionaires don't want them on their yachts no more. Yeah, you know, you feel me? There's just always a time, you know. But I I salute the women who are you know who settle down with one man uh and then like love that man. Like that's real.

SPEAKER_01 58:35

Dude, it's it's hard to find women like that. I'm sure. I know women out there that are down for like a man like that. They just haven't found the one yet. But because after you know, speaking to a lot of people, they're like they're just looking for that one. I was like, I would always tell them, I was like, maybe your standards are like too high. You know, it's it's okay to just you know put them low, experience a little, but then don't lose yourself during that experience.

Do We Need Women And Balance

SPEAKER_02 59:06

Yeah. It's kind of hard, man. Nowadays, man. I for me it's hard. I don't even try to focus anymore. I don't pay attention, really. I I see a cute girl on Instagram, I just swipe, I really don't care.

SPEAKER_01 59:18

Oh really? Yeah. Huh? Because they're flocking to you.

SPEAKER_02 59:23

I mean, not really. I mean, I just don't know people's attention, so I just be not scared, but I just you know don't really pay no mind anymore. So I'm at a point in my life where I'm just so locked in with life. What I wanna do is like, you know, that's always gonna be and whoever gets me right now or gets to have me, I'm gonna have a good like a good investment and a good like boyfriend. Hey, that's what's up. Get me my party now because these past couple years, man.

SPEAKER_01 59:53

You be popping. I believe. Damn. That's what's up. Hey, Swabby, that was fun, dawg. Dog, man, I do appreciate you coming on, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:01

Anytime.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:01

Hell yeah, man. My guy, my guy. Uh you have any shout outs to where can these people find you at?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

Man, shout out to everyone in the 808, man. Thank y'all for always giving me love. 808, all the islands, bro. Everybody, everybody, in the whole United States, everybody in this damn world. Shout out to everybody.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:15

Hey, appreciate you. Um KO Studios, thank you for the lovely home. Rafi Bite, thank you for the lovely beats, man. And with that being said, I'm Chris. And I'm Suave. And we out this bitch. Peace.