Keeping Your Lashes On, Parental Cops, and Chris' Nair Experience with Lynn

A tsunami alert hits your phone and half the neighborhood panics while the other half fires up a barbecue. That’s how this conversation starts, and it only gets more honest from there. Lynn joins me to talk about what it’s really like chasing modeling in Hawaii while staying grounded through storms, social media noise, and the weird stuff that comes with being visible online. 

We get into her path toward cosmetology or aesthetician school and why she wants to pair beauty industry skills like waxing and lashes with a business degree. If you’re building a brand, thinking about entrepreneurship, or trying to create a stable career in the creator economy, her plan is simple and smart: learn a real skill, learn how to run the business, then scale with consistency. We also talk about rejection in modeling and brand collaborations, how she reaches out to companies, what “no” sounds like, and why it shouldn’t shake your confidence when you know there are more opportunities out there. 

From there we dig into the social side: relationship boundaries, trust, jealousy, and how she handles DMs and attention without letting it run her life. We also talk body image, confidence, gym culture, and the pressure to look perfect on Instagram, plus practical photography lessons like angles and framing that can instantly improve your content. If you care about self-confidence, modeling advice, influencer marketing, and staying authentic online, you’ll get plenty to take with you. 

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• stormy Hawaii weather, power outages and a tsunami warning story
• growing up with police parents and what support looks like at home
• cosmetology and aesthetician goals plus planning a beauty business
• waxing and body hair preferences, funny fails and real talk
• how Lynn gets into modeling through a best friend and brand collabs
• dealing with rejection, discipline and the numbers game of opportunities
• why angles matter in photos and what makes a shoot actually work
• beauty standards, lashes, and the pressure to look perfect
• trust, DMs, jealousy and setting boundaries with social media attention
• cancel culture, online judgment, bullying and outgrowing high school
• confidence versus insecurity, gym culture and approaching people respectfully
You can find me on Instagram or TikTok. They're both the same username. Lynn L-Y-N-N Maria, but replace the I with the one.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:10

Here we go. 54321. Welcome back to another episode of the relationship method podcast at your boy Chris. I kind of fucked up because we went into like a five-minute spiel without me pushing record. But that's okay. Life is about adjustments, and um I have integrity in telling y'all that I have I fucked up. Uh today I have a lovely guest. Um, she is an aspiring model, she is a student uh of the world. I have Lynn up on this bitch. Yay! Okay, round two. Lynn, how are you today?

SPEAKER_00 0:46

I'm alright. I'm tired, and the weather was overwhelming me a lot.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Tell these folks about what type of weather Hawaii is having right now.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

So I think it started Wednesday, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

And we were having a huge storm, power outages around I think most of the island. And me and my other half had to drive all the way to IAL because lights were cut off in Milalani, to Waipio, food places were closed, we couldn't do anything.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

Was this is this the first time that Hawaii felt this type of like I guess storm or this hard of a rain for this long?

SPEAKER_00 1:26

I'm not even so sure because I know like recently we've been having horrible weather.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

But I don't think it was as bad as this storm because we never had a power outage. I know we had the tsunami a while back, but it was a false alarm. So I think it's like kind of really bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Let me ask you this the tsunami, right? And I could tell you my story. What were you and your other half and your folks, what were you guys doing when this tsunami warning popped off?

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Well, I was in bed and I was just scrolling on TikTok, then you know I got that alert on my phone. Yeah. And my boyfriend, he just got off work and he was working in North Shore. So I was like, okay, babe, like you gotta come over. And he's like, No, I'm just gonna cruise with my boys, yeah. All North Shore at the beach, and I'm like, that's not what you're gonna do. And he's like, Oh no, let's go fishing. But I forced him to come down, yeah, and like we just went on full like lockdown at the house, and I felt bad because I couldn't bring like all my friends in my house, yeah. So it was like, but it went over like super quick.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Yeah, um my neighbors had a barbecue and they're like, hey Chris, you and the firm, come over. And I was like, uh, tsunami? They're like, uh no, come. And I'm like, all right, cool. So there were they got off work early and they were drinking and cueing it up, like my neighbors and shit. And I was like, Y'all don't take this shit seriously? Like, nah, man, it's it hasn't popped off the way it popped off. Like, I did a little research, but like back in like the 19 somethings. Maybe I didn't do my research because I can't even remember the year, but um, yeah, it didn't pop off like that. So yeah, we were just chilling. Did you ever get caught in that traffic or know anyone that got caught in that traffic coming back?

SPEAKER_00 3:12

Oh, definitely. My friends were stuck like for hours coming from North Shore down to Milalani, and it's like packed there because I guess Milalani was like one of the safe spots.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

But I was actually really worried about this tsunami because I actually thought it was gonna happen. I don't think recently we've gotten a tsunami warning at all, or like my whole life. Yeah. So I was like, what the fuck is this actually happening?

SPEAKER_01 3:39

Yeah. But what um what precautions did your parents take?

SPEAKER_00 3:45

My parents, they were both police, so they had to be directing traffic, they were like, Oh yeah, and they're stationed in Kalihi. So it's very hectic up there. So they were stuck from like morning to nighttime just directing people because they don't know how to drive when there's a tsunami warning.

SPEAKER_01 4:04

This is true. Um, being a kid of policemen and women, um, how is that like?

Growing Up With Police Parents

SPEAKER_00 4:14

Honestly, it's not even that bad.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

It's not like you get away with a lot of stuff, or are they like away because you could get away with a lot of stuff?

SPEAKER_00 4:24

My mom is like my best friend, she's my biggest supporter. And like she may be strict at times, but honestly, like when I was telling her, like, before I didn't even I was like a tomboy, I didn't do makeup, nothing. And she was like, Oh, I'm signing up for Miss Teen Hoy. And I was like, no, sign me out real quick. But when it came to like going out and like but boyfriends and stuff, she was like, as long as you're safe, keep your location on, if you need me, I'm there. But I moved out of her house at I think the age of 16, 15, and I moved into Mililani. But she's still like I still visit her a lot, she helps me so much, but she is the most like lenient person ever.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

How about your pops?

SPEAKER_00 5:13

He okay, so he's my stepdad. Oh, but he is a great guy, like he really stepped up as like a biological father, yeah, and like he has been there ever since I think I was like 10. And his kids too are like one of them is like she is like mom vibes. Well, she's obviously a mom, but she is like so much help when I I always run to her for advice and all this stuff, but he is such a sweetheart, like he's a big guy. You may think he's like rude or scary, but he's so nice.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

That's what's up. Uh, me and your dad, stepdad have um something in common. I'm a step parent as well. Um and um I know the kid since he was like two or three. Yeah, so yeah, like I I totally understand. Like, I had to step in that role. So big ups to you know your your stepdad for for doing that. Because not a lot of men would take that role.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Yeah, you know, and he treats my mom so good, like I've never seen my mom this happy in her life.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

Really?

SPEAKER_00 6:14

Yeah, and that girl, like, she does not need a man, she has rebuilt that whole backyard, she rebuilt a house, she rebuilt their kitchen. Like, she is such a hardworking person, but he treats her like the queen she deserves to be.

SPEAKER_01 6:27

And they're both police officers.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

Yes, they are, but my biological dad, he I think he's a prosecutor.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

I thought you were gonna say a prostitute. I okay, a prostitute. I heard prostitut and I was like, oh.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

I mistakenly said that one time. Like, um, we had like class presentations, yeah. It was like, oh, what do your parents do for work? And I was like, Oh yeah, my dad's a prostitute.

SPEAKER_01 6:52

And everyone was like, hell yeah. Like you said it very proudly, Lynn.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

I know. Fuck. I was so confident in that answer too.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Like, oh man, and they believed you because you said it sounds.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

I was like, fuck.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Oh man, do you have a good relationship with him? Somewhat.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

We we stay in contact here and there. Yeah, it's been like a very rough patch with me and him, but that doesn't mean like I hate him or I don't love him at all. Yeah, he was still a good father, uh-huh, but not in like specific aspects of being a father. Yeah. So it's like if I need him and I call him, he will be there.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

But I don't need to call him all the time.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

Oh, facts.

SPEAKER_00 7:37

Yeah, so it's alright. Like it's not a hate relationship.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

And um you are uh a student?

SPEAKER_00 7:45

Yes, I am.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

What's the uh what's the goal?

SPEAKER_00 7:48

What's the what's the major that you're trying to um So I'm planning on going to either cosmetology or aesthetician school? I want to do waxing, lashes, all of the above. And then I want to go to college for business. Mm-hmm. To be able to manage my own business and then to use that degree to get into like big jobs, you know?

SPEAKER_01 8:10

Little TMI, um, have you ever been waxed? In order for you to be in waxing, like are you supposed to like feel oh not feel but know what it feels like so I could tell the customer, oh, this is the pain level, and this and the third.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

I wax myself. I have never let anyone wax me in my life.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

But does it hurt?

SPEAKER_00 8:31

Okay, in like certain areas, yeah. Like armpits are like.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

Like like the region. Yeah. Does it hurt in the region?

SPEAKER_00 8:37

Oh, definitely. Oh, like armpits? No. It's fine.

SPEAKER_01 8:41

Legs, no, arms, no, but Does does a woman uh do they get used to the pain in the region area? Like, are you used to the pain yet?

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Or no.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

No, it's still like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

I've done it once or twice and I was like, yeah, never again.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

Never again, huh?

SPEAKER_00 8:59

I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Fun fact, um, back in high school, um, I used to put nair on my legs. Yeah, I didn't know nothing about shaving. Oh my god. And as you can see, like I I have patches, but I mean Yeah, man. I guess I'm half of a man. Not really psych. But um, yeah, I nayed it up, and then after Nair, I was like, nah, this this shit lightweight burned, so like I started shaving and shit.

SPEAKER_03 9:23

Burned?

SPEAKER_01 9:24

Yeah, I don't know why, but yeah, maybe I put too much or I just got the wrong type of nair. But um, yeah, I almost like I almost on a dare, I almost put it on my eyebrows, and I was like, nah, dude, I'm straight. I'm cool, I'm cool.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

I put it on my boyfriend's legs one time. Yes, and it didn't grow back until like two weeks.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

It kills your shit.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

I think, but it smells like fucking crap.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

It did, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

It smells like it's like it smells horrible, but I was like, I might as well just put it on your whole legs.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Girl, yes. Oh my goodness. Um with with with the guy, well, with your man, um, was it the whole leg or was it like the knee down?

SPEAKER_00 10:08

So it was like the knee up. Like he was playing Hold up.

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Wait, wait, so he wasn't he was hairless uh from the knee up, but hairy from the knee down?

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Yeah. Huh.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

Okay, that's different. That's different.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

Yeah, because he was like playing on his PS5 and I was like, oh babe, I have this. Like, can I try it on you? He's like, okay, whatever. Uh-huh. So I put it on him, I was like, okay, wait five minutes. And then later he just hears me like rubbing harsh on his leg. He's like, what the fuck? And then all this hair was gone. And he's like, Oh.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

Have you ever waxed him?

SPEAKER_00 10:39

So the first time I ever got a waxing.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

That's a yeah, that's a yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

The first time I ever got a waxing pot, I did not know how to wax.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

And I was like, okay, babe, let me try on your back. And it was like his lower back, and it was like it was so watery, and your waxing's supposed to be like super watery. Okay. It's like super hot. And I I put it on him, and he jumped up so quick, and it messed up everything. But he like refused to rip off the wax strip, so I did it when he wasn't paying attention.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 11:09

Ever since then, I'm not allowed to touch him.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Good hey, good for him.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

No, good for him.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Like, yo, boundaries, babe. Bound motherfucking dreams.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

Oh, goodness. Um, with men, um, do you suggest uh them to be wax or do you like the is the hairy look more natural on them? Does it depend on the person?

SPEAKER_00 11:32

For me, I don't like my boyfriend being hairy. Like he has tattoos all over his body. So when he has like arm hairs and it's covering his tattoos, I'm just like, that's so ugly.

SPEAKER_03 11:42

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

But he knows to shave them now. Like leg hairs, I don't mind at all. Sometimes it annoys me. But like when it comes to body hair, I'm like, yeah, no, you have to shave it off.

SPEAKER_01 11:53

Really? I've always wanted body hair.

unknown 11:55

No.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Um, I want chest hair because uh you ever watched the movie Austin Powers?

SPEAKER_00 12:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

I want to have the design of a penis on my chest. You know what I'm saying? How sick is that? Like a Filipino cat walking shirtless with a p you know what I'm saying? Oh my god. That's the only reason why I would want to be hairy, you know?

SPEAKER_00 12:19

I don't like it, like and he has like chin hair, mustache. Like, I don't know if you spot that when you met him, but I hate it.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

And I'm like, You don't like like facial hair?

SPEAKER_00 12:31

No, why not?

SPEAKER_01 12:33

What what is it?

SPEAKER_00 12:34

I just want his baby face. Like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

Okay. Tell me why. Like, why do you like the baby face? Because I know men they want to have the facial hair. He does he want it?

SPEAKER_00 12:47

Oh, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 12:48

You're the ones like, no, babe. Do you got do you guys compromise in that?

SPEAKER_00 12:53

I'm not sure. Like, I'm just like, can you take it off? And he's like, Absolutely not. I've had this my whole life. And I'm like, Well, I miss your baby face. He's like, I don't care about no baby face.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

I look like a picture.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

I look mature now, and I'm like, absolutely not. Like, you're still young. When we're like parents, then okay, yeah, you can grow your facial hair, body hair, whatever.

Body Hair Debates And Waxing Chaos

SPEAKER_01 13:15

There's a stipulation, girl. Um, you're also an aspiring model. Yes. Um how did you get into that? Like, what made you um, you know, look in the mirror and be like, you know what? I'm finna be incredibly good looking as an occupation.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

This is my favorite topic because I was inspired by my best friend. Like, you will never meet another person like her, but she is a model too. She is so beautiful. And she was like, Oh yeah, I modeled for this thing called Anellaware. And I was like, Oh, that's cool. Like, I see the bikini brand, I've always wanted to. And then they had openings, and she sent it to me, and she's like, You have to do it. Like, if you want to do this, you have to apply. So I did. It was my first, um, not first official photo shoot, but it was a good photo shoot, and then after like me and her have been doing modeling together for a while, we take each other's photos. She's like, Oh, reach out to this brand, or let's both collab with this brand. She is so supportive, but she is the reason I got into modeling.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

Really? Um, was this the one that was supposed to come, but couldn't? Mm-mm-mm, you're missing out, girl. Missing in some missing out on the ambiance, you know what I'm saying? Um, shoot, that's that's that's freaking cool. And then well, after was it a a rough start and everything, or like once you got hired by you know this this place, everything just started clicking, or was there like any type of struggle?

SPEAKER_00 14:50

So I don't think there was any struggle. Like before getting into modeling, I would just post randomly in bikinis and whatever. And my following went up from like a thousand to uh six thousand because of modeling, no, just because of posting random photos, uh huh. And then I was like, okay, I'm done posting for a bit. My following went all the way down to like five thousand, got back into modeling now. I'm at like seven thousand.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

But it wasn't any struggle. Like some brands, they will either not respond to me or deny me. Some brands will reach out or I'll reach out, but so far, like it's been going really good.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

That's good. Girl, um, don't worry, I'm going through my I'm going through my good. Um do you have anything for me before we um we start um busting this shit fucking down?

SPEAKER_00 15:42

You wanna be a model?

SPEAKER_01 15:46

You know what? Uh okay, I I said this story like twice, I think twice on the pod. So back when I was like, I'm gonna say in middle school, and this is when I had dyed hair, I had the bangs, like I really looked like the typical old school Filipino, right? Um, my dad put me like in these pageants because my sister was. So it's like I did it, and it wasn't for me because I'm I'm such a goofball. Like when they say pose, or when they tell me to like I can't stay in that you know, I can't pose and I don't know what to do with my I'm a guy, so what do I do with my hands? Like I feel so like a robot if it's yeah to the side, so I'm like this and shit. I couldn't take direction for the life. My sister did it, but I couldn't take direction for the life of me. So I was like, yo, I can't do it. Like, even when I do like my headshots or like when I take pictures for the studio, yeah, I can't even fucking do it. I'm like, what do you like do something? I'm like, okay. So I just sit on the ground Indian style. Like, what do you do? As a guy, what do you do? I'm just I just feel so awkward. And I don't know, like maybe it's maybe it's like my like my insecurities or whatnot, but I just can't do it.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

I mean, you rarely see any male models. I mean, like, there's some, yeah, but like in Hawaii, like I see one that's often, uh-huh, but it's not even like they even know what to do.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

Girl, like I want to be a hand model. I could definitely like make a V. I'll be like that. Make a W. Okay. How about you give me a finger? Alright, you know, like I could definitely be a hand model, but man, being like a model model, it's like, I don't know, man. I have a mole somewhere on my body, and I'm just like, I don't want someone to be like, hey, this motherfucker got a third nipple. You know what I'm saying? It's like, nah, man, it's a mole, goddammit. You feel me? So I don't want that shit coming my way, you know? And then um, yeah, man, I just I don't I don't know. Am I open to it? Maybe. Like if someone was like, hey, Chris, I think you'd be like a real good mom. I was like, alright, cool. Can I one, can I be covered up?

SPEAKER_04 17:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:52

Because I'm shy with my toes, you know what I'm saying? I'm not trying to show off my toes. Okay, me too. Um, you know, like two, uh, I want to be like indoors because your boy can't do heat. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm sweating, like, I I I'm cool, but I start sweating like fast. For some reason, I'm like a fast sweater. And then um, yeah, but I I'd be down to do it just in those types of conditions, you know.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

High maintenance, huh? Fuck yeah! Why the why the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 18:24

I know my goddamn worth girl. Um tell me like a um like say uh like a a modeling shoot that was that didn't go your way. Like it like it was supposed to be sunny, but the clouds rolled in last minute, you got rained on. Like, what was like the most horrendous modeling shoot that you've experienced?

SPEAKER_00 18:46

I'm gonna be honest, like you haven't had one. I watched the weather, but an elect like it was a set date, set time. Like storms were coming, it was raining every single day, and they were like, Okay, we're gonna shoot for this day. I don't care, and then like it was honestly not that bad. It was sunny, but I don't think I've ever had an issue. Like, I don't know, rain doesn't follow me when I'm taking photos.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

Lynn, shut up, I have the perfect shoot every fucking time. Oh, my name's Lynn. Oh here's it. We're gonna go into these questions now. Um, dealing with rejection and um and auditions, have you ever got rejected while trying to get like a like a photo shoot with someone or trying to like try out for some type of brand or whatnot?

SPEAKER_00 19:39

Oh, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

How did you um how did you overcome that? And when you first got that news of being rejected, how did you feel?

SPEAKER_00 19:46

Well, I mean, like I reached out, I was like, hi, I love your brand, I love what you sell. Like, would it be okay if we collaborated? And they were like, they gently said, No, we're not looking for ambassadors right now, and like our brand isn't that big enough to have models. So I was just like, okay, I completely understand, and if any like time further than that, you need a model, I'm always available. But it doesn't affect me because there is so much brands out there, uh-huh, and there's so much opportunities for me that one rejection, couple rejections, five rejections, it won't affect me because I know there's bigger and better things to come.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

Girl, um, I guess the follow-up question uh lines up with your answer. Um, building discipline while chasing, like chasing that dream. Like uh in order for you to accept that rejection, you had to be really disciplined because it's one of those things where it's a numbers game, right? Like four would say no, but then after that fourth one, six would say yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

You know? Oh man, how did you feel when you um like after a booking? Like, are you ecstatic, or is it one of those things like, man, I can't believe I got it.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

I'm just like, oh my gosh. I call my best friend and I'm like, guess what?

SPEAKER_01 21:04

Hey, Destiny, check it out.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Like, guess what? I just got the brand. Like, you reach out to them too now, so we can do it together. Uh huh. Or I'll text them so you can do it with me. Or I'll call my boyfriend and I'm like, babe, you have to bring me to this photo shoot. You have to take my photos, and he's like, Oh fuck, okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

He's your BTS guy?

SPEAKER_00 21:23

Oh, definitely. He is such a good photographer.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Really? He knows angles and everything.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

Yeah, it's like we went to the beach the other day to uh model in like two bikinis, and he got this really low angle, and I was like, before I even seen the photo, I was like, babe, I fucking hate that angle. Like, get up. Uh huh. And he's like, wait, you have to see it first. And then in the end, it was the photo that I posted and that I'm using for every single thing now.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

Yeah. And big ups to you, guy.

SPEAKER_00 21:52

He's annoying.

Getting Into Modeling And Early Momentum

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Uh um, just recently I've figured and I figured out um angles because I'm taking Pictures for my wife, right? And she always said, and this is be back in the day where you know, before social media, I was like, damn, I took I take ugly pictures, you know. And then once I started getting in you know into this creative world, I was like, Oh shit, angles do really matter. You know what I'm saying? Because like you ugly as shit when you take a picture like this, but then you handsome or you cute when it's like up here when the jawline is contorted.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

You can't see that triple chin.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Yeah, exactly. So it's like the angles are, and then um what what did I learn? Something lines or something? Did you ever learn about lines or middle lines or third lines or some shit?

SPEAKER_00 22:37

Oh, like the grid.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

Yeah. Yeah, so I I I recently learned that. So now it's just like, oh, okay, angles are so important.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

Yeah, it took me so long to learn about angles and photography. Like, I own two cameras. I would do senior portraits, regular portraits, beach photos for other people, like and sports. So going into photography class too helped me a lot. And especially with that grid stuff, because they would be off camera.

SPEAKER_01 23:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:09

Half of their bodies out of the camera, but then I finally learned angles and everything.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

But so you were an aspiring photographer as well.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

I was.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Oh, you was until modeling became full-time?

SPEAKER_00 23:22

Yeah, and like I kind of I was just like, I don't want to take photos of people all the time.

SPEAKER_01 23:26

Oh yeah, fill you.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

Like, I'll take photos, you ask me, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

But it's not like I'm you fit in a be make it a future. Yeah, I don't want a job like that.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Oh, okay. Um, what's the reality behind like looking perfect all the time since you're a model? Do you be do are you like, and this is like in your your your own psyche, you have to look a certain way before heading out the door, or are you cool with like La Bun, no lashes, motherfucking beef in your teeth?

SPEAKER_00 23:56

Nobody will ever see me in public without lashes. That's one thing. Like, you can see me like bare face, but I always have to have lashes on.

SPEAKER_03 24:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

But when it comes to like taking photos and stuff, I'll go to the beach full face of makeup just for the photo.

SPEAKER_03 24:11

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

And then I'll go in the water. But it's like I have many flaws on my body that is a big concern to me when I when it goes into modeling. But when it comes to my face, I need makeup.

SPEAKER_03 24:28

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

But even if I don't need to put on makeup or and just lashes, that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Aren't you afraid? Because I've seen this several times, that your lashes will like kind of fall off or plop off if you're like going to the beach or doing some type of strenuous activity.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Yeah, so my boyfriend, he has like sounds, you know, like how Hawaii boys lifted trucks at sounds.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

Oh, Yoda.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

2000 Tree.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

He has a lifted Yoda.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Brand new cherry, bruh.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

But he was like so into silence. He was super loud. Like, you'll see his bed was full of speakers, yeah. His doors and whatever. He had subs. And like he'd crank that bass knob, and my hair would just go insane. Eyelashes are about to fall off, and I'm like, bruh, we gotta be somewhere. I need to look at it.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

Uh-huh. But has it ever because that I could only like if I saw that while I'm driving and someone's speakers were going that loud and that was those bumping, and it just it hit you so hard, like the lashes fall off. I think I'd cause an accident because that would be so hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

Yeah, like he was so into sounds.

SPEAKER_01 25:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

Recently I've made him remove them. What? So he only got like a rack in there. But he's gonna go back to sounds in the summer. But he was so into sounds, he would bring me to all these sound comp sound meets. He'd put me in the cars and he's like, okay, let's see how your hair goes, and then everything's falling off. I don't have a hairbrush, like it's tangled.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Really? I need to be dude, post it, and then I need to go to one of these because I want to see like what the f like hair being removed by these sounds. That'll be I laugh my ass off. And it's just because I think it's funny. It's not like I'm dissing anyone, but I just think it's funny as fuck.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

Oh yeah, they put a lot of girls in the trucks.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Oh hell yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

And I think Hawaii is most like very known for our truck cruises and our sounds and our gifted trucks, but I hate it.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Girl, um, have you figured out who you are before becoming who you want to be yet?

SPEAKER_00 26:43

Hmm, that's a good question.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

I know, girl. Come on, man, I'm the podcaster.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

Uh-huh. Figure out who I am.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

Um, or is there is there still like more growing with you?

SPEAKER_00 26:56

I think there's so much more for me to learn. And I don't think that right now I'm like where I want to be, uh-huh, who I want to be, and whatever. Like, I feel like I could do so much better in life. Like, sometimes I feel like I'm way behind.

SPEAKER_03 27:10

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

But then like I'll talk to someone about it, and they're just like, you have to realize, like, you're not like crazy, like older now. Like, you're not doing all these things, you're slowly getting there, but you have a plan and you're sticking to it, so that's good. So, like, as long as I'm trying, it's just like I'm not where I want to be right now, but I will be in the future.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

That's facts because um, like uh, I know this. Well, I don't know him personally, but there's this actor. He started acting at 53, and he's like one of like he's one of the prestigious actors in Hollywood right now. And um, before that, he was just uh he wasn't slanging his dick, but he was um what was he doing? He was uh he was uh a a waiter? He was a waiter or a bus boy or some shit. I think he was a waiter, and then um yeah, he just got found at age 53, started acting and shit. So I was like, damn, you know, so it's never too late for someone to to find his or her like calling. And it's it's not bad to try things out, you feel me? Because um, when I started this pod, episode one, I was like, what the fuck? But now I'm like at episode triple digits, and I'm just like, oh shit, yeah, it's cracking.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

Yeah, I was binge watching your page and I was like, oh, what kind of questions there is?

SPEAKER_01 28:35

Let me ask you, what do you think? Since you, you know, you're on my page, what did you think of the topics that I was, you know, putting out there or I was really interested in it. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 28:46

And I thought it was like straight relationships.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

So like I was like, okay, I'm probably gonna expect like, oh, oh yeah, it's this and that. But I was watching it and like the girls, the guys, they're so funny. And like they're I love it. It's like it's so what is it called? Like eye-catching. Like, I wanna keep watching it.

Rejection Proofing And Booking Confidence

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Oh, I appreciate you. Um, I think it's because like each person, they all have the same story, but it's di it's a different telling, you know? Yeah, like someone could got cheated on, but the way they got cheated on could be different in like 15 million ways, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, I caught my husband fucking a goat. Fuck, okay. I caught my wife, you know, cheating with a mailman, or some shit like that, right? Uh-huh. So it's like it's different, and I think it's because I'm not a local and I don't talk about Hawaii just like these other podcasts. Yeah. I think that like, I don't know, it it what makes me stand out and shit. Um, but thank you. Hey man, thank you for binging my shit, man. Of course. Um influence of friends versus staying authentic.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

Um, my friends influence me a lot, but they do it in all good ways.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

Like, none of my friends well, I've had bad influences, uh-huh, but they're not like in my circle anymore.

SPEAKER_03 30:13

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 30:14

Like, I know who's good, who's bad, and my own opinion. So whatever I know is best, I will follow, but I'm not a follower. I'm a trendsetter. No, I'm joking.

unknown 30:27

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

But like my best friend, yeah, she will never lie to me. She'll never give me like sweet stuff. Like, yeah, if I need to know something and it's serious, she'll tell me. Like, if I need to leave someone, I'll leave them because she told me to.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

Ooh, girl, so um, with your friends, do you like do you seek their guidance sometimes, or are you fully independent with your thinking?

SPEAKER_00 30:53

I can never say that I'm 100% independent.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

You can ask my best friend. I rely on her so much.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

She is like my sister, and like I will run to her about every problem. Even if I know the answer, I'm just like, oh, help.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

So you want you want the validation from her?

SPEAKER_00 31:09

Yeah, like even if it's not what you're hearing, you're still gonna Yeah, even if I don't want to hear it, I know that I need to hear it because she will never lie to me.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Let me ask you this when you're asking for these advices, right? Are you the type of person that will take them, or are you just like, nah, fuck that, I'm gonna do my own shit.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

She I'm such a hard head.

SPEAKER_01 31:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 31:29

Like, I will take the constructive criticism, but I'm a hard head. Yeah. Like for like five, like the beginning of the conversation, I'll be like, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

That's that's your opinion. I don't care. You don't need to be in my business. Like, we've had so many arguments because I'm like, you won't be in my business anymore. You don't need to know anything anymore. Got it. And then she'll just thumbs up and we'll go see each other for like a week, and we're like, Oh, I'm so sorry. Like, but I'm a big hardhead, and she is too. So it's like it's such a funny friendship. We're just stubborn people, huh?

SPEAKER_01 32:01

How do you uh okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Dating while focused on your goals. How is your your I guess your your relationship with these goals that you have for yourself?

SPEAKER_00 32:13

My relationship is so good. That's good. My boyfriend is my biggest supporter, he is so secure with me. Like, I will do what I want if I need like if he has boundaries, then I will respect them. But he has never brought up a boundary that stops me from doing what I want.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

And I tell him that I want to do all these things in my future, and he's like, Yeah, do it. Like, I got your back. Like, you're going through financial problems, I'll help you. Like, you need your photos taken for a model. I got you. You need me to take you, I got you. Like, he is such a blessing.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Let me ask you this then. Um, oh shit, I just had a brain fart. Uh-huh. Oh, okay. Um, how did I get the yes from you to like come on the pod?

SPEAKER_00 32:59

I was in bed with my boyfriend, and then uh you sent me the message. I'm like, babe, look at this.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

And I've shut your ass up. You did not go off this.

SPEAKER_00 33:08

I've seen your page, that's why, from that Casey girl. Oh, okay. So I was like, oh my gosh, no way. Uh-huh. And then he's like, What's that? And I was like, it's a podcast. Like, oh my gosh, I want to go, babe. He's like, okay, go then.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

So you didn't think of it like as a like a as a as a random guy creeping on your page just to send out a DM. That never crossed your mind?

SPEAKER_00 33:30

No, because this is your like this is what you do.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

It's not like I'm looking at you a weird way. Like, if you had no post on your page, then it'd be like, okay, no.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

Red flag. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

But you have had continuous people and you have had people that I know and I trust on there. So it's like, okay, yeah, I trust this. I'm down.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

So having a relationship with people that you know helps out the credibility of, like, say, the person that's asking. Did that come out right? So let's say we both know Casey. If Casey was to say, hey, don't go with this photographer, he's a sleaze ball, would you listen to her, or would you be like, you know what? I'm gonna give this sleaze ball of a photographer a try.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

I'd ask her for her specific reasons and if it's just her opinion or like he like they actually came off in a wrong way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then if she's like naming reason after reason and it's like really like bad things, and I'm like, okay, yeah, frick no. But like she never said anything bad about you.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

So it was like, okay, that's great.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

Girl, she she better not. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm supposed to have her back on, right? Um shit, my shit cracked. I'm supposed to have her back on. I haven't said a date yet, but she will, Casey, if you're watching, listening, I will have your ass back on. Maybe I have both of y'all on, who knows, right? Um, but yeah, okay. Um, yeah, okay, cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Uh um, okay, peer pressure um to be in relationships. Um, in your modeling shoots or whatever, were you ever like pressured to well, you're not out there out there yet, but yeah, like to say, oh man, say you're single because you'll get more clout, or you know, just were you ever pressured to do something that you're like, uh nah, I'm straight?

Photoshoot Skills And The Power Of Angles

SPEAKER_00 35:24

No. Okay, good. Because you can't control my relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like obviously, I get more views when I don't post my other half. Yeah. But there's his name, his highlight, like all this stuff. And on other platforms, he is like just all over my page. But like there will be people that like don't like my relationship, and they're just like, yeah, no, don't post that. Don't do this for him. Why would you do this for him? And it's just like, I don't care. That's my man, not yours.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

How do you handle the the horny women and men that you know that slide into your DMs and such?

SPEAKER_00 36:00

It's funny, like it's super funny because my boyfriend has my account too, so like sometimes he'll respond to them jokingly.

SPEAKER_02 36:07

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

And it's like, it's it's just a laugh for us. And like, I find it so weird because I've seen like like explicit things and all this stuff. Uh-huh. But they're weird. The only thing I pay attention to is my mutuals, brands, like people are important.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

Did your boyfriend ever DM me back? Like when we were you know chopping it up. Oh, okay. Because I would have been like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 36:33

Like he he gets notifications. Like this morning, I was like, babe, you've seen the address, right? And he was like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 36:39

And then he opened it and I was like, like, why'd you open the message though?

SPEAKER_01 36:43

It's not, was was your oh wait, you stayed Melanni, right? Okay, not not that far, right?

SPEAKER_00 36:49

Yeah, it was like what 16 minute drive.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

Um, oh, here you go. Jealousy and insecurity with social media attention. Um, you said that your man is um secure.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

How about the other way? Are you secure?

SPEAKER_00 37:06

So he's definitely like not like been around. Like he is Mr. Aloha. He would go to Sandy's every weekend, you'd see him out, like all this stuff. So I'm just like, there's a girl following you? You want me to text her? You better remove her. No. But like I'm very secure with him. I trust him. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. I honestly trust him so much. I just don't trust females.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

If you trust him so much, why would that be an issue with the females?

SPEAKER_00 37:41

Because you know the game. Why the fuck are you gonna text my man? You don't even need to follow him. You see I'm in his bio, you see I'm in his highlights. No, you're removed.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Okay, so but what if he doesn't follow back? They follow him, is that okay?

SPEAKER_00 38:01

It's alright.

SPEAKER_01 38:02

Okay, but when he starts following back, then it's like, babe, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 38:06

I'm just like, okay, how do you know her? And if he's like, oh, like it's uh it's my boy's girlfriend or it's my friend from high school, I'm just like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

Oh, okay, no, no questions asked.

SPEAKER_00 38:18

I'm just like, did you have any relations with them like physically, sexually, intentionally? And he's like, no. And I'm like, okay, that's fine.

SPEAKER_03 38:25

That's good.

SPEAKER_00 38:26

But there's some girls that I know have hit on him, uh huh. Exes, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 38:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

So I'm just like, yeah, automatically no.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

Automatic no.

SPEAKER_00 38:36

But as of now, like, he is so obsessed with me. I'm not worried. I don't check his page, I don't check anything.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

When you say obsessed, right? Because my wife threw that word around. I'm like, dog, uh I'm obsessed with myself before with you. You know? Um, is that uh yeah, like how do you know he's obsessed with you? And my answer to my five, was that wrong?

SPEAKER_00 39:06

It depends.

SPEAKER_01 39:07

Like well, I mean, we have that relationship though, like we're not so funny like that.

SPEAKER_00 39:11

Yeah, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_00 39:12

My like in my term of him being obsessed, is like calls me, updates me all the time, the which is bare minimum, but then he's like, Oh babe, you're so beautiful, and I'm like, I'm in his clothes, I'm in like I'm in the most homeless outfit ever. Yeah. And he's like, You're so beautiful, you're my beautiful angel. And I'm like, what the fuck? Like, are are you like Is he helping material? Oh, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

Does he cook and all that stuff too?

SPEAKER_00 39:41

Um, I don't really let him in the kitchen.

SPEAKER_01 39:43

Why not?

SPEAKER_00 39:44

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

I think Are you the cooker? You don't even cook either, huh?

SPEAKER_00 39:49

I I know a little bit.

Beauty Standards And Always Wearing Lashes

SPEAKER_01 39:51

I don't want to make eggs. I wouldn't, I wouldn't say, oh yeah, but I ain't no motherfucking Yang can cook.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

Oh that's one thing, girl.

SPEAKER_01 40:02

Damn, that's expensive as shit.

SPEAKER_00 40:05

Yeah, but he's a very good guy. Like, he would get me gifts all the time. Roses when my roses would die. Like that man is in love.

SPEAKER_01 40:17

I'm in love too. Kudos to you, big dog.

SPEAKER_00 40:20

I already have my second promise ring.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

Uh-huh. So a promise ring?

SPEAKER_00 40:24

Yeah, I got two.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

Cute. Cute. It's shiny as hell, too. If y'all can see that shit, that shit's shiny as fuck. Um, here we go. Uh, posting for opportunity versus posting for attention.

SPEAKER_00 40:38

I post for both. So, like, if I'm collaborating with a brand, I tell them, like, they'll ask why, and I'm like, I want more audience to reach the both of us while bringing more opportunities for myself and for this brand. So it's like I do it for people to see, people to interact, and all this stuff. So I guess it's like it's a two-in-one deal, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:03

Yeah. Why didn't I even ask that? Is there any pressure to be interesting to to look interesting online? Do you think there's pressure nowadays, or for you in particular?

SPEAKER_00 41:16

I mean, I think that when it comes to like posting, it's so like because there's so many beautiful models, and it's just like, fuck, I need the right photo, I need the right angle, I need to have my page looking the way I expect it to be. Like, I don't want to post two times in a row, like it's it's like a schedule.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

I've said this before, and I think um I don't know if people heard it or someone anyone followed up, but if you want to see the real person on Instagram, just look on the tagged photos because it's always the ugliest pick. I took those down. Yeah. Oh, you did?

SPEAKER_00 41:58

I remembered to make that private. They have to ask permission.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

I had so many, like back in the day, I had you know, like just drunk picks, and just I was so unaware of the flash that you know they would tag me, and of course they're like, I look, you know, yeah, not there. But yeah, I tell people if you really want to know the person, you gotta look at the tag to the page.

SPEAKER_00 42:18

Oh, yeah, and I stalk those too. Really? If I'm looking at like someone and I'm I'm just like, I don't know about this page, it doesn't seem too real. So I look through the tag post. And if there's a tag, then it's like and you see like group photos, you see like school stuff, and I'm just like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 42:36

What do you think of the cancel culture and the um and online judgment?

SPEAKER_00 42:42

It doesn't faze me when people judge me, honestly. Like, you're giving me more attention, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 42:49

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

And what do I have to worry about? If you're prettier than me, then okay. Like, it's no competition in life for you to be prettier than me.

SPEAKER_03 42:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:58

Like, I think I come off as a very sweet person. I hope I do.

SPEAKER_01 43:05

Well, I'll play I'll play, uh keep going. I'll play. Go ahead, keep going.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

Yeah, I think I do come off as a sweet person. So I don't like I hope that people don't find reasons to hate me or dislike me. But obviously, there's people like high school, like they used to bash me all the time. And I'm just like, okay, look where I'm at now.

SPEAKER_01 43:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:30

You don't it like you don't worry me.

Identity Growth And Friend Influence

SPEAKER_01 43:32

Girl, let me tell you about this. When people still bash you from high school or like still trying to relive their high school popularity, I to me it it's somewhat cringy, but I laugh because it's like, yo, you were so popular, and now you're trying to like you're at this age now to where you still think you're it but you're not anymore. And I'm just like, yo, you're not it anymore. Like the the nerdy ones, the the bookworms and the geeks. Hey, we glowed up. I'm not gonna uh I'm not you know I'm I'm tuning my horn, man. I glowed the fuck up from high school, man. So yeah, that's yeah, when you said it triggered me. High school triggered the fuck out of me, right now.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Yeah, like the Queen Bees, they Queen Bees are like they are still stuck in their high school like popularity, especially football boys. They're like, oh yeah, I was a star in high school. Okay, well, now where are you now? Like high school did not matter.

SPEAKER_01 44:34

It didn't.

SPEAKER_00 44:35

I looked, I mean, different. Yeah, like from my freshman to ending, it was just like I looked so different in my freshman year. I was bullied so much because of it.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

But now, like some of them even look up to me, and I'm just like, that is sweet of you, but it's embarrassing if you're gonna be talking crap about me and now you're a fan of me?

SPEAKER_01 44:59

Yeah.

unknown 44:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

Mm-mm. Let me ask you this then. Um, are young people rushing to to become adults to adulthood?

SPEAKER_00 45:09

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 45:10

Why do you think that is? Do you think it's social media, or do you think it's the time that we're living now?

SPEAKER_00 45:15

I would definitely say it's social media, and also if they have older siblings, because me as a younger sibling, it's just like they have so much opportunities, and I just feel like I'm so behind, and I want to catch up to them, so I want the same opportunities. Uh huh. Like my sisters got a tattoo at like 18, whatever, and I was like, Oh, I want a tattoo, so I got one at 15.

SPEAKER_01 45:39

And it's like, wait, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. You got a tattoo at 15.

SPEAKER_00 45:44

Yeah, I got all matches.

SPEAKER_01 45:46

Is that um hold up? Is that common in Hawaii?

SPEAKER_00 45:49

Honestly, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:50

See, if you if you had a tat back in Cali, and me being the nerd, I was like, oh my god, I think she went to like she came from jail or some shit. Like, I would definitely fucking say that shit. But I mean, I've noticed out here it's a culture, like young kids begin yaded at an early age.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:09

Your parents was cool with it?

unknown 46:10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:11

Your stepdad and your and your mom's.

SPEAKER_00 46:13

So we have matching tattoos, that's why.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

Oh my god, you got the coolest parents ever. Say, hey man, I'm taking you today.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

Yeah, so I have a rose with three butterflies, and they had like different stuff.

SPEAKER_01 46:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 46:25

So after that, I attached a dragon all the way down to my ribbon stomach. And it was like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

At least it was a meaningful one. And it wasn't like, oh, Justin Bieber on your forehead, right?

SPEAKER_00 46:38

I will always have a meaning to my tattoos. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_01 46:40

You know, you know, motherfuckers, they they they put their body look like a scratch pad, you know.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

I judged my boyfriend on that.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

He has a scratch pad.

SPEAKER_00 46:49

When he turned 18, he got tatted up. I mean, he has a tribal tat, which has a meaning, of course. But it's like there's so much random tattoos. He has like one of one, and I'm like, boy, you are not one of one. You're a local boy. Put that look at his place quick. He's like, I am one of one. What do you mean? I was like, you're a local boy, go to Sandys, lift idiot, like you get gold chain, all this stuff. You're not one of one. Yeah, you're yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:17

I ain't talking trash, dude.

SPEAKER_00 47:18

But you're the one in my heart.

SPEAKER_01 47:19

That's your girl. That's your girl. That's your girl speaking. Um, have you ever be have you ever been sexualized in public places, especially the modeling work that you be doing?

SPEAKER_00 47:30

I've been like cat called and stuff, and like there will be random people that will say the most outrageous things like as I'm walking past. It feels uncomfortable, but I'm just like, oh.

SPEAKER_01 47:42

Really? Yeah, it's like has has a cat call ever become flattering to you, or has it always been like a oh, what the f when it comes to girls?

SPEAKER_00 47:52

Like, sometimes I'll walk they're like, Oh, you're tea, or like, goddamn, and I'm just like, Oh, thank you. And then we exchange Instagrams.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

And a guy would be just weird.

SPEAKER_00 48:05

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:06

Not even a compliment would be like, oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 48:10

If it's if I know, or like if he looks like a mature, well put together guy and he's like, You look very beautiful, and I'm just like, okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 48:17

Like you look pretty today.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

Yeah, but if it's like some weird stuff, and I'm just like, I don't even I don't even act like I heard them.

SPEAKER_01 48:27

I could attest to this, it feels good getting a compliment from a gay guy because gay guys are like freaking I don't know, like they're I think they're like the judge of everything, right? Yeah, so when a gay guy is like, hey Chris, and I'm like, hey, he's like, you're looking great today. And I'm like, fuck yeah, okay, thank you. Or a random gay guy is like, hey, you know what, you're you're a handsome fellow, you're kept together. I'm like, thank you, sir. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 48:56

I don't have many gay friends. Why not?

SPEAKER_01 48:58

Why don't you have any gay friends in your in your book of friends?

SPEAKER_00 49:03

I don't know, like they just don't reach out to me.

SPEAKER_01 49:06

But you gotta know like at least one or two in your repositive, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:10

They're the funniest, like they're so sassy, but I love it. And like I trust their judgment so much.

SPEAKER_01 49:20

Me too. Me too. Um, what scares you more? Failing or never trying?

SPEAKER_00 49:26

Never trying.

SPEAKER_01 49:27

This is true.

SPEAKER_00 49:29

Because I agree to that. Yeah, like if I fail, there's so many chances to retry. There's so many chances to do this and that or that. So it's like if I feel okay, what I can do better, uh-huh, you know. So if I don't try, I just feel like a loser.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

Really? I've been put in situations, especially in the military, where it's like, hey, you, you're in charge of this, and I'm like, fuck, I've never done this before. And there were times where I'm just like, dude, I can't do it. I really can't. Or but there was like a lot of times where I was able to like rise to the occasion, right? Like um execute it successfully. And it was those positions where I was like, oh shit, I never thought I had this in me.

SPEAKER_04 50:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:14

Like uh, like shooting a weapon, right?

SPEAKER_04 50:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:17

If I was back home, I would never know, like I would have never known that I was a pretty good shot without trying. You feel me? So yeah, like not what was the question again? Never trying. Yeah, I'm I'm a I'm a real big firm believer of dude, what's there to lose with you, you know, like if you try if you tried acting and you didn't get a gig, well shit, at least you're that five percent that said, Oh yeah, you know, I did go to an edition.

SPEAKER_00 50:45

I feel like I fail when I don't try.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

Oh, facts, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:50

Like, if I'm not putting in any effort, but I'm like, oh, I want to do this so bad, I want to get here so bad, but I don't put in the effort, it's like okay, you automatically failed.

SPEAKER_01 51:00

Ooh, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 51:02

Mindset.

SPEAKER_01 51:05

Um, when do you feel the most confident and the most insecure?

SPEAKER_00 51:10

I feel the most insecure when I start paying attention to like my body, and I'm just like, oh, I have hip dips, oh I haven't gone to the gym in a while, oh I have like dark spots on my body. It makes me feel so insecure, and I'm just like, maybe I'm not up for modeling. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I feel the most confident when I finally get myself ready, put on my makeup, and then I turn to my best friend or my boyfriend, and they're like, You look so beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 51:40

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 51:40

And I'm just like, okay, maybe the things I'm looking at aren't even as bad. Like, you know, like when you look at your flaws too much, you think they're actual flaws, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:56

Oh, interesting. I like that.

SPEAKER_00 51:59

So I haven't been feeling insecure because of the people around me.

SPEAKER_01 52:03

Yeah.

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SPEAKER_00 52:04

And I think like it's so great to have a good friend and a other half, and especially supportive uh parents and stuff. So I'm just like, oh, I'm confident.

SPEAKER_01 52:17

Girl slay, yes. Um, let me ask you this. Um You say you go to the gym, right? Are you a uh a before pooper or like during the gym you have to poop? I've never been constipated before or during really yeah, like when I I think, well, for me, right, I have to poop before the gym. And like while I'm at the gym, like let's say I'm I'm doing legs, right? I feel it in my stomach, I'm like, oh shit, I gotta go. And I I'm that type of person that I hate eating. Like, I don't I want to do it like in an empty stomach.

SPEAKER_00 52:55

So I need to eat like two hours before I go to the gym.

SPEAKER_01 52:59

You have to eat what, like something big or like peanut butter and jelly sandwich?

SPEAKER_00 53:02

Like peanut butter jelly. And I'm on birth control, so for the first three months of birth control, I would go to the gym and I would throw up every time. Like I cannot eat.

SPEAKER_01 53:11

After the gym sesh, you would throw up.

SPEAKER_00 53:14

Before. Oh, before? And after. Okay. So it was like super bad, but the thing is, I need to pee before I go to the gym. If I pee during the gym, I feel like I lost everything I worked out for. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 53:27

That's weird as fuck. Well, hold on. You you low you feel like you lose everything when you pee.

SPEAKER_00 53:34

Yeah, so like if I'm hitting legs or glutes or whatever, which that's like the only thing I do in the gym.

SPEAKER_01 53:40

Yeah, okay, continue.

SPEAKER_00 53:42

And then I'm like, oh fuck, I need to pee. I go to the bathroom and I'm just like, uh, I feel like I lost my ass.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

But don't you drink water or some type of liquids while you're working out? Or are you like so you lost your ass while peeing? I think that's how that's your that's your psyche.

SPEAKER_00 53:58

I think. So then I'm just like, okay, I gotta work out another hour.

SPEAKER_01 54:02

Okay, okay, okay, okay. The gym culture, right? And you know, you go to the gym, you work on glutes, so I'm I'm assuming a lot of guys be like looking at your behind, right? Have you have you caught a guy staring? And if so, like did they apologize or did you make eye contact with them? Like, how does that work out with you? What work out, huh? Look at that.

SPEAKER_00 54:25

I've caught people staring, and then sometimes I make eye contact and sometimes I don't, and then sometimes they walk up to me and they're like, Oh, I thought you were really pretty. Can I have your Instagram? And then sometimes I'll be like, Okay, sure. And then I won't follow them back and I'll tell my boyfriend. I'm like, oh, I just got a free follower.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

Is there a time and place in the gym to I guess talk to a woman? Like while they're working out, or well, like in your in your perception, in your eyes, is there a place and time?

SPEAKER_00 54:54

If it's like we're using the weights and we're in that exercise room, and I don't know how to do exercise correctly, or I'm like, oh, I love her gym set, like where'd she get it from? Then I'll go up and I'll be like, Hi, can you help me? Like, you look experienced, or you look cute. Like, can I know where you got your stuff?

SPEAKER_01 55:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:13

But honestly, I was so nervous about going to the gym because I was like, What if people look at me and they're like, You don't you don't belong in the gym, like you don't look at it? Like, but then when you get in the gym, it's like not a lot of people stare at you.

SPEAKER_01 55:28

Yeah, it's you're you're in your own lane.

SPEAKER_00 55:30

Yeah, yeah, they're focused on their own stuff.

SPEAKER_01 55:32

I tell my wife all the time all the time, like, because she's cognition of going to the gym, and I'm like, yo, everyone's not really checking other people out. Glances here and there, but yeah, I guess they're not they're like, I'm trying to do this for me, man. Fuck her, fuck him, you know what I'm saying? I'll like I'm gonna do good for myself.

SPEAKER_00 55:51

I mean, like, I would see my other half in the gym. Like, we were together, but we wouldn't go to the gym together, and like we'd text each other late, and we're like, Oh, just got to the gym, and I'm like, what do you mean I'm at the gym? And then I'll see him across the room, like working out with his friends, and we'll do our own workouts, and by the end of his workout, he'll just like hit me on my head or something.

SPEAKER_01 56:11

It's like, oh, hello.

SPEAKER_00 56:12

Yeah, but he'll he'll pay attention, and I'm just like, okay, nothing's happening.

SPEAKER_01 56:18

Girl, girl, girl. Jim no wants us. Um, Lynn, that was fun. Uh, an hour flew by.

SPEAKER_00 56:25

Damn. Right?

SPEAKER_01 56:26

We're just chopping it up, right? I do appreciate you for coming on.

SPEAKER_00 56:30

Thank you so much for having me.

SPEAKER_01 56:31

Um, where can these people uh find you wet? And do you have any shout outs or anything?

SPEAKER_00 56:36

You can find me on Instagram or TikTok. They're both the same username. Lynn L-Y-N-N Maria, but replace the I with the one. And shout out my best friend, T.baby, Tiara. I love you. Thank you for everything. You're the reason I'm here right now, and my other half. Bye.

SPEAKER_01 57:00

Um, KO Studios, thank you for lovely home. We are currently in the courtyard. You are getting a sneak peek of this new set. Um, uh, Raffy Body, thank you for the lovely beats, man. And with that being said, I'm Chris.

SPEAKER_00 57:14

I'm Lynn.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

And we out this bitch. Peace.

SPEAKER_00 57:18

My nail fell off. What the fuck?