Creepy Bosses, Red Flag Ignorance, and Long Distance Trust with Kacee

A “good opportunity” can turn into a bad situation fast, especially when money, access, and attention get mixed together. Kacee comes back to talk with us about what changed since the last time we recorded: she’s getting better modeling and influencer marketing gigs, she’s being paid in cash instead of just merch, and she’s learning the hard line between a brand that respects you and a person who tries to control you.

We get into the uncomfortable stuff, too. Kacee  opens up about a brand owner who gave her and other women weird vibes, the moment it stopped feeling safe, and what finally made her say “I’m done.” From there, we talk boundaries that actually protect you: how she handles DMs, why she keeps distance with strangers, and how trusting your gut can save you time, money, and stress. If you work in modeling, content creation, or any public facing job, this is a real conversation about professional safety and self respect.

Then we shift to relationships and dating standards. Kacee  breaks down the biggest red flags she ignored with an ex, what feels different with her current boyfriend, and what emotional intelligence looks like in real life. We talk long distance trust (he’s away on a ship), healthy arguments, why “casual” often gets messy, and why cheating culture is wrecking modern dating. If you’ve ever wondered whether your standards are too high, or you’re trying to learn how to communicate without blowing things up, you’ll get plenty to think about.

If this hit home, subscribe, share it with a friend who needs it, and leave a review. What boundary are you setting today?

• her boyfriend’s merchant marine schedule and how they handle distance
• leveling up in modeling with better paid brand deals and consistent work
• the warning signs of a creepy brand owner and why she walked away
• being managed by her mom and shifting to marketing for career growth
• red flags she ignored before and the traits that feel safe now
• boundaries with DMs, strangers in public, and online attention
• what makes a partner “boyfriend material” beyond looks
• why casual situations often turn messy and the case for transparency
• what a healthy argument looks like and why people quit too fast
• independence, missed calls, and trust when both people are building goals
• standards that are realistic versus standards that are just fantasy
• cheating culture and why honest communication beats sneaking around

Transcript

New Relationship And Ship Life

SPEAKER_04 0:14

Welcome back to another episode of the relationship method of my catch is your boy Chris. Today I have a person that came back. She's my neighbor. We just found out. I've seen her ass a couple of times. I just didn't know who she was, but now I do. I say, what's up? Um I got Casey back on this toe.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

What is good?

SPEAKER_06 0:33

How you doing, girl?

SPEAKER_01 0:34

I'm doing amazing.

SPEAKER_06 0:36

Amazing. And um I know this, but people don't. Uh, where are you coming from?

SPEAKER_01 0:41

I came straight from a photo shoot.

SPEAKER_06 0:44

I feel fucking special. Fuck yeah. And another tidbit. Um, she was single.

SPEAKER_02 0:50

And now I am basically married.

SPEAKER_05 0:55

Wait, you got a ring on too?

SPEAKER_01 0:57

Oh no.

SPEAKER_05 0:58

Oh, I was gonna say, what's that?

SPEAKER_01 1:00

A friendship ring, goddamn.

SPEAKER_05 1:02

Oh, is it that serious now?

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:06

Six months in?

SPEAKER_01 1:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:07

That serious?

SPEAKER_01 1:08

Yeah. Well, I think it it got serious pretty fast because he was my best friend first. So like being or like getting into a relationship was pretty easy for us.

SPEAKER_06 1:19

Are you at his crib a lot?

SPEAKER_01 1:21

He's always at mine, but he works on the um cargo ships. He's a merchant marine. So good job. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:29

Ooh, mm-mm.

SPEAKER_02 1:31

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:33

Mmm. Okay. Hold on, let me flip this bitch around so you can see yourself.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

Period. Oh, yes. Yes. A lot better. Alright. I'm not gonna cut that bitch out.

SPEAKER_06 1:46

This is all raw. Alright, so uh merch. Um, does he have his own spot or is he still chilling with parents?

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Um, he lives with his parents when he's here, but he more sees with me.

SPEAKER_06 1:58

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

Um, but on the ship he has his own everything.

SPEAKER_06 2:02

Is he uh um is he in the military?

SPEAKER_01 2:05

No.

SPEAKER_06 2:05

No, so when you say he's on a ship, like he somewhat lives on the boat, not yeah, he basically lives on the boat.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Like he's gone for 35 days and then he comes back for two.

SPEAKER_06 2:16

Really? Yeah. When a boat's a rockin', don't come a knocking. You know what I'm saying? Um, that's funny because um I want to retire and I want to have my own boat. And you know, like of course you have a boat and then you have like a little boat that to go onto shore, get your groceries, take a shower, do this and the third, right? But yeah, that's what I want to do. That's fucking awesome. Have you been on this boat?

SPEAKER_01 2:38

Yeah, I have.

SPEAKER_06 2:38

Yeah?

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Yeah. See sick? No. I mean, we don't when I'm on the ship, we don't go anywhere.

SPEAKER_06 2:44

Oh, really? You just chill.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

It's when we're docked, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:46

Oh, um, and the living situation, I mean the sleeping situation, is it like a small bunk or a queen, king, what have you?

SPEAKER_01 2:55

Um it's like a twin XO, but then he has like a couch, a desk. It's like a whole room.

SPEAKER_06 3:00

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

Closet.

SPEAKER_06 3:02

Oh, okay. So uh I guess he's living as a min minimalist or whatever, like he doesn't have a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Can't bring a lot of stuff on there. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_06 3:12

Uh I mean, because you know, as women, y'all carry a lot of well, y'all have a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 3:17

Oh, yes. Shoes, drive, you see my room right now, it is jam-packed, like don't know what to do with all the clothes that I have.

SPEAKER_06 3:26

Are you gonna um well you have a lot of clothes?

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Are you gonna kick them kick them down or are you fit into um I have donated a lot of it, given it to my friends and my family, uh-huh, but I do also sell my clothes.

SPEAKER_06 3:39

Really? Yeah. What's the highest bid? Shoot. You know, there might be some stock or some something.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

There's like I think the highest I sold one of my bikinis for, it was like$200.

SPEAKER_06 3:51

$200? What's this? Like a Louis Vuitton bikini or no, I think it was a Benoa. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Okay.$200.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:59

Ain't no fucking way.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

It was it was like pretty much new.

SPEAKER_06 4:02

And so Warren worn it once. Yeah. You at least wash it.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Yeah, of course I wash.

SPEAKER_06 4:07

Thank God. You know what? There's there's women out there that would wear something, not wash it, and sell it. Oh, see, right? Hygiene is key.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

Yeah, maybe no.

SPEAKER_06 4:21

No?

SPEAKER_01 4:22

Yeah, no, you better freaking wash everything.

SPEAKER_06 4:24

Mm-mm. Girl, it's been a minute. Uh a lot of things changed. I think your hair color changed or something. No, it's still the same.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Still the same. Oh, I did cut it.

SPEAKER_06 4:35

Okay, okay, yeah. When I saw her, I was like, yo, she looked mad different.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Yeah, I cut nine inches off my hair.

SPEAKER_06 4:44

Oh, look at you. Living on the wild side and shit.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Yeah, it was kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_06 4:50

Mmm, okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:51

Drastic change.

SPEAKER_06 4:52

Drastic change. That's good.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

But I like it. It's growing back.

SPEAKER_06 4:56

So how's the whole modeling thing going with you?

SPEAKER_01 4:59

It's going a lot better, actually. I've gotten a lot um a lot better deals, better paid gigs, um, brand consistency, everything. Yeah. Um, the brand that I was working with last time I was on here.

SPEAKER_06 5:14

Yes. Shut the fuck up. For real, what happened? Yeah, like I'm not saying names, but what happened? Because I'm cut off.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

You watch Pitch Perfect, where they Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 5:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Cut off.

SPEAKER_06 5:26

Were they doing you dirty or?

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Um the owner weird. Like mad weird.

SPEAKER_06 5:33

Try getting you in them skins. Like weird. Shit. Really? Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

And there's been a lot of girls who've said that before.

SPEAKER_05 5:42

Really?

SPEAKER_01 5:43

And everything. And they like the first person that I talked to about it, she worked for him before, and she went, Are you safe?

SPEAKER_06 5:51

Mmm. Yeah. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

So it's it says a lot.

SPEAKER_06 5:56

I'm gonna ask you this, Casey. Since um we're talking about this, um, why do you think it's so difficult for men to like keep it like kosher with you know women? Because, you know, I see you, you know, like I'm not saying you ugly or you pretty or whatever, but I mean, I wouldn't try you know, like me, I wouldn't, I wouldn't try. It's one of those, like, oh, okay, hey, Casey, what's up? You know, like I'm not trying to dig cheeks or whatnot.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

There's there's some guys, like when I came onto this pod, I knew that everything was like chillin', whatever's, but there was one time where he told me he was he told me that I shouldn't have a boyfriend. Like he was when I first got with my boyfriend, he was like, No, the only men that you should trust in your life is your dad and me. And I was like, Whoa.

SPEAKER_06 6:44

Okay, see, that was a red flag and me. Yeah, I was like, But the whole boyfriend thing, I could understand that because if if I see a person with potential and someone is like dragging them down, just like crabs, right? Just trying to get out of the bucket, other crabs bring them down. If I see that, it's like, yo, you shouldn't have one, just fucking do you, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

But then at the same time, like my boyfriend would drive me to the photo shoots. He would like he's really supportive with everything that I do. So it was really weird for him to be like, you don't need like you don't need him.

SPEAKER_06 7:16

Oh. Yeah. Wow. So stuff like that just turned you off.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Yeah. So I was like, I don't really, I don't really need that energy.

SPEAKER_06 7:26

Oh, girl, I was um a couple days ago, I was talking about like peace within myself, right? Like, I'm not gonna let some jamoke interrupt my peace. You feel me? And yeah. Fuck that.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

Yeah, no, thank you.

SPEAKER_06 7:44

Well, I'm glad that you're in like in a better headspace.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

Yeah, and once I like I ooh, so you there's no way brands were rising. I think a lot of people like didn't want to work with me because I was working with that brand, because a lot of people didn't like the owner, didn't like the brand. Shut your ass.

SPEAKER_06 8:01

Yeah. Was it a good was it a good brand at least?

SPEAKER_01 8:04

No.

SPEAKER_06 8:05

Now you say no, but back in the day you would have said, Yeah, I was I was hyping it.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

I was hyping it. I mean, they were doing like a lot of things for me, like I got to travel and everything, but once like once I started having to do like more and everything, it was just like he he let all of the other girls, he was like, Oh yeah, bring your boyfriends, whatever, whatever. But then with me, it was no.

SPEAKER_06 8:31

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:32

So you were like targeted somewhat was was there weird vibe have you ever been alone with them? Yeah. Was there weird vibes even then? Really? Um for people that I guess are asking the question. Um the vibes that you got from him because you guys were alone, and when we do this pod the very first time, how were the vibes different?

SPEAKER_01 8:58

Like when I'm talking to you or hanging out, like just filming the pod, it's all like fun and you can joke around or whatever, but then with that person, I was more having to like, you know, make sure that there was the distance, like be clear on what I'm here for, and just do my job and leave.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 9:19

Like there was no downtime, there was no chilling, like your guard always had to be up.

SPEAKER_06 9:25

And you said it's happened with other females too.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 9:29

That's lame, man.

unknown 9:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 9:31

That gives us motherfuckers like a bad name because there's a lot of cats out there that are genuinely just trying to have a conversation, trying to keep it kosher, this and the third, and then you got a motherfucker like that.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Yeah, I never really talked about it until right now. So sneak peek into this.

SPEAKER_06 9:47

Me, me, me, me oh, bitches. Fuck yeah. Spelling all the kinds of tea.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

Anyway.

When A Brand Crosses The Line

SPEAKER_06 9:54

Oh my god. Okay. All right. And um, besides that, everything good, the brand that you're with is gone. You're with new brands or just brand. Like, do you have like a management brands?

SPEAKER_01 10:05

Yeah, I mean, um, my mom is managing me right now. Okay. So she's been handling all of like the emails and everything. But the my favorite brand that I'm working with right now, like that's been really consistent, is Happy Wahine.

SPEAKER_06 10:21

I've heard of them.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Yeah, that's where I just came from.

SPEAKER_06 10:23

Really? Yeah. Um, and they paid you. Or is it is it with cash or is it with like is it with merch?

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Um, cash.

SPEAKER_06 10:33

Oh, really? So you're getting compensated more with cash as in before it was merch and like free stuff.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Yeah, because before a lot of the brands would give me um like merchandise or whatever, and I really appreciate it because it helps build my content and I love making content for other brands.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

But I also do like getting paid. So when it's when it's both, oh girl, I'm gonna go all in for y'all. Like I make sure that every piece of content that I put out there, especially when it's paid, I make sure that I I do my best.

SPEAKER_06 11:07

Well, go ahead. Go ahead. Cause I remember first it was just um you were getting merch. Now you're getting wow, what's that like six months to a year?

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:18

Fucking changed a lot.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:20

Look at you, girl. She's thriving and being successful.

unknown 11:24

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_06 11:25

And again, no school in the picture is just saying, like, nah, I'm not trying to go to school. I'm a small thing.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

I really didn't want to like stay in school. I'm still like, you know, doing this and that, but I switched my major to marketing. So I'm doing a lot better than when I was in architecture.

SPEAKER_04 11:49

Really?

SPEAKER_01 11:50

That was it. I was telling you last time when I switched my major, and they were like, hmm, I don't know. And boom.

SPEAKER_06 11:58

Marketing. So marketing early now. Market it, you're understanding marketing a little bit more now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

Like a lot more.

SPEAKER_06 12:10

That is good. Like making business plans and like cost estimate worksheets and everything.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

Yeah, because I'm marketing myself first to the companies, and then I'm promoting their brands. So I'm getting it from a lot of different angles. And I like it.

SPEAKER_06 12:26

Definitely angles. Um speaking of these, uh, has uh has there ever been a brand since the last time we talked um that didn't go through because of I don't know, paperwork or some shisty shit?

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Um no. All the brands that I've worked with are amazing.

SPEAKER_03 12:48

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

Any people that have sent me PR or like make photosho or propose photo shoots and everything like that's put together, they're amazing.

Red Flags Versus Real Support

SPEAKER_06 13:03

Oh, ready to dig into these questions? Cool, okay. First one was um compared to your old person and now your new person, what was the red flag that you ignored at first? Like was there like your old guy, what was the red flag that you ignore, like you ignored back then, but now it's like damn, that motherfucker was like a walking Oh, there's so give me one, give me one then. If there's a lot, just give me one.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

I'm trying to think he's just egotistical to the max. Like, if I had to say he did not care about anybody besides himself.

SPEAKER_06 13:39

Really? Yeah. Why is that? Why do you think people are like that? Or like what fed his ego? Was it you? Were you like, damn, boy, you fine? No, was it other girls or whatnot?

SPEAKER_01 13:51

Shoot, he was cheating on me, so it might have been the other girl.

SPEAKER_06 13:54

You're a fucking dummy. Damn straight. I'll tell you, my ego boost is when it compliments me.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

Oh, type shit.

SPEAKER_06 14:04

Like for real. That's like what a gay guy is like, oh, Chris, you're big.

SPEAKER_01 14:08

I love it when pretty girls compliment me. Right? Is it aren't you? It feels so much better than if a guy's like oh you're cute. Don't talk to me.

SPEAKER_05 14:16

Really?

SPEAKER_01 14:17

Don't talk to me. Um, no, I think like that was the the big difference with my boyfriend now compared to that other guy.

SPEAKER_03 14:28

That other guy.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

My boyfriend now, he will support me through everything. Like, he takes care of me, like he will put me first. Like, oh that's good.

SPEAKER_06 14:40

I love I love him L word already, six months. When was the first time that the L-word dropped?

SPEAKER_01 14:48

Shoot. I think that's how we like actually got into a relationship.

SPEAKER_05 14:55

Because we're like man, Casey, man, girl, I've been loving you. Yeah. And then it's like, wanna be my girlfriend.

SPEAKER_01 15:02

Yeah, like all of our friends were like, bro, like he likes you, whatever, whatever. And I'm like, no, he doesn't. And then you're oblivious to that. Um yeah, I honestly like I just loved being around him so much that I never really like thought too far into it. And then when I finally like looked at the bigger picture, I was like, oh my gosh. Okay, I think I think I should be with him.

SPEAKER_06 15:27

Like, did your friends see it come in? Like him and you getting together? Really?

SPEAKER_01 15:32

I think everyone everyone did, but but us. Oh really? Oh okay, okay, cool. And then it finally happened and we were just like Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 15:42

Well uh what what intuition uh intuition that you had that made you go all in with this guy?

SPEAKER_01 15:49

Um the way he treats people. Like he's very nice, he's extremely emotionally intelligent. Explain that because uh like he understands like the right time to say things, how people feel, like he analyzes everything before he speaks.

SPEAKER_05 16:13

That's good.

SPEAKER_06 16:13

Yeah, local kid, yeah. Wow, not to down like local kids here or local men, but yeah, the the folks that I talk to like just randomly, they're not all there when it can't when it when it comes to you know being emotionally engaged and involved, um, you know, they think out of emotion and not logic.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 16:39

So yeah, I'm glad you found a good one.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

Thank you. Me too.

SPEAKER_06 16:44

Um, has he told you his goals or like his five-year plan, tenure plan or whatnot?

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 16:50

What's what's one thing?

SPEAKER_01 16:51

What's a what's a five what's a short term goal that short term goal I know that we're gonna stay in Cali for a month um during the summer because he's gonna upgrade um like to get a promotion for his job. Oh nice. Yeah, he's gonna go to like this training thing.

SPEAKER_06 17:08

Uh-huh. Yeah. And what's the long term goal? Marriage?

SPEAKER_01 17:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 17:14

Yes. Oh, the whole picket fence?

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 17:18

Wow. In Hawaii?

SPEAKER_01 17:20

I hope so.

SPEAKER_06 17:21

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

But you know, with how it's costing and everything, like a lot of factors.

SPEAKER_06 17:29

Down removed to the mainland or um Yucatan, Zimbabwe, one of them places.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Ooh. Um, I mean, I would really have to think about leaving. I really don't want to. But like if it really came down to it, if that's what we had to do together, then I would be okay with it.

SPEAKER_06 17:50

Next question. You built your career off posting, tagging, and consistency, right? But at what point did you realize I can't trust everybody in the space?

SPEAKER_01 17:59

Probably after the last brand that I worked with. Because I was very like open and trusting to every brand and everyone, just because you know, it's really hard to put yourself out there and make sure that you're getting the consistency that you need.

SPEAKER_03 18:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

But once you have someone like basically play in your face and you just gotta know like your limits to everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:27

Um, so with these new brands, are these are you fucking around with like new photographers as well?

SPEAKER_01 18:34

Yeah, um, my bestie boo Hayley, um, she is Happy Wahine's photographer. She's great.

SPEAKER_06 18:44

And then outside of that, you're messing with new not messing, but you were getting photographed by other new photographers that haven't shot you before?

SPEAKER_01 18:55

Um, no. I don't think so. Most of the photographers that I work with, I've worked with them previously.

SPEAKER_06 19:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

So they're all chill.

SPEAKER_06 19:05

That's good. Yeah, they're all great. Well, I'm gonna scratch that other question out because the question I had after that was uh what's your process for vetting photographers before you even show up? So I'm gonna scratch that bitch out because you know all of that. Um because of that let's be on paying decent ones, be protected. Oh, nope. You talked about that already. Fuck, you think learning how to vent the business? Okay, let's go to the next one. Um early on, you know, you're getting okay, so now you're getting cash offers, right? Um tax season just passed. How does that shit work out for you with like the whole tax bracket and like Okay, you're kind of asking uh the wrong person. So ask your mom.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

Yeah, ask my mom.

SPEAKER_06 19:46

Oh, okay. I don't know, I don't know shit about that. Do you have a uh do you have a savings or some type of like in case shit happened fun? Yeah, yeah, that's good. Not too many people. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 20:01

And then, you know, only spend when I need to. I don't really be buying anything, especially stuff that I don't need. I mainly spend my food on my food.

SPEAKER_05 20:11

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Oh, yeah, you already know where it goes to. Food and food and gas.

SPEAKER_06 20:16

Oh, true that. Oh, the gas prices went up.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

Yeah, like crazy. But um I did a collab with uh with a cafe the other day. Um, Cafe Vintage.

SPEAKER_06 20:28

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

Their stuff is pretty delicious.

SPEAKER_06 20:31

Oh my gosh, the avocado toast, Primo.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

I tried matcha for the first time.

SPEAKER_06 20:36

Is that the green drink, right? Not my tea, not my tea.

SPEAKER_01 20:39

I tried it. They're like lavender matcha.

SPEAKER_06 20:43

Lavender.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

It was so good.

SPEAKER_06 20:45

Really?

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Like really, really, really good.

SPEAKER_06 20:47

Did it make you poop? Um that's too far to think back. I don't know. Probably. Matcha is supposed to make poop. Most likely. Poop. High fiber, I think.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

I think they use like oat milk or something. Oat milk.

SPEAKER_06 21:01

So it's like less harmful.

unknown 21:03

Okay, fine.

SPEAKER_06 21:04

Less harmful, she says.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Less harmful to the stomach, I guess. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 21:08

Oh, okay. Are you a pooper?

SPEAKER_01 21:10

No.

SPEAKER_06 21:10

Really? So shit gets stuck in there.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

I guess so.

SPEAKER_06 21:14

Oh, girl.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Or the vlogs. I'm just a girl with stomach problems.

SPEAKER_05 21:18

Like, yo, Casey doesn't poop. It just stays like that's gonna be the clickbait.

SPEAKER_06 21:23

Casey doesn't it goes down to her kneecaps and shit.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

You know what I'm saying? I'm gone. I'm dead, actually.

SPEAKER_06 21:32

What's something you used to accept that now you'd walk away from you know that uh recent situation, both um the BF and that business?

SPEAKER_01 21:44

Um shoot. Just making me feel uncomfortable in what I'm doing or just putting me down. Uh all the brands that I've worked with since then are amazing. And my boyfriend. Even more amazing. So I just I'm looking out for myself, but I know that the people that I work with and the people that I have around me, yeah, they all support me.

SPEAKER_06 22:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:12

So you tolerated a lot from you know, from like this last brand and from your BF, right? What was like the final fucking straw? Like, especially with the brand.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

We we know about the guy, but with the straw, like the brands, yeah, like we were on we were on a trip and that was the first brand trip that I went on with a boyfriend.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

And it was very hectic. Like, he was just like, you gotta do this, you gotta do that, blah blah blah. And then like we were at that like dinner or whatever's, and that was when he was drinking, and he was like, Yeah, you should not like you shouldn't trust or care about anyone who's not your dad or me.

SPEAKER_06 22:55

Like, what? Was he trying to be like somewhat your manager or whatnot? Is that the vibe that he was giving you? Or no, or was it something totally different?

SPEAKER_01 23:03

It was just yeah, it was just off.

SPEAKER_06 23:05

God damn.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. Because he knew that my mom was managing me too. Uh-huh. So it was kind of like.

SPEAKER_06 23:11

Do you think he would like, like, say if you were still with his brand, right? Do you think he would try and undercut your mom and like I wouldn't be surprised.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Oh. I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, he was paying me, unlike the other girls. He wasn't paying the other girls. He was only paying me. Uh-huh. And then he told me like not to say anything. But then he called like a team meeting and I didn't go. And he was talking about me at the meeting, and he was like, Yeah, did you know? Did you know that she gets paid and she didn't tell you? Or did you know that she does this and that and whatever, whatever? And he was like, Oh, yeah, and do you notice that she's been off since she got a boyfriend? Like whatever, whatever. Like, not not doing not doing as much. He was trying to say that I was not doing my job and whatever, whatever. And that shit pissed me off. That shit was that was my final straw because one of the other girls filmed it. Like she had her phone like nowhere. And recorded it and came back and woke me up and was like.

SPEAKER_06 24:15

Woke you up from your slumber.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

From my sleep, and was like, I think you need to listen to this right now.

SPEAKER_06 24:21

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

And we're leaving the next morning. Went to the airport. I didn't even ride in the same car as him. He told me that for the trip I had to ride in the same car as him. And I was like, no, no, I don't.

SPEAKER_06 24:31

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

Like the other girls are riding with the girls. I'm gonna go with them. Like you still go on the trip? Oh, I mean.

SPEAKER_06 24:41

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

So I was like, oh my god, I'm stuck somewhere else. Like with no help. And then like when I heard that video, I was just disgusted. Like, I was sickened.

SPEAKER_06 24:52

Well, girl, you just woke up and shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

So I was like, fuck this. And then as soon as the plane landed, I did not like the girl that was with me, I was like, okay, I love you. Like, bye. And she was like, I love you too. Literally grabbed my stuff and dip. Like, did not say bye to nobody because the other girls was like, you know, kind of what is that? Glazing him like to the max. So then I was like, okay, they didn't really like fully understand the situation that was going on. I even tried to explain it to them and they like weren't.

SPEAKER_06 25:28

They still fucking win him?

SPEAKER_01 25:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:29

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

So then I was like, okay. Literally grabbed my bag and ran. Like off the plane. Just left. You don't do talk to the uh to the other girl still, or the girl that um I was friends with and whatever's, yeah, I still talk to her, but everybody else, no.

SPEAKER_06 25:47

Really? Yeah. Mm-mm. Messy, messy, messy.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

Very, very messy.

SPEAKER_06 25:54

Uh, next question. Um, you get it, you get attention online and in public that comes with access. So what boundaries did you have to put in place to uh protect yourself?

SPEAKER_01 26:04

Um, okay, there's like one, if I don't follow them back, it goes straight to my DM requests. And I like don't really like I don't open my DM requests because there's a lot of like weirdos that will definitely be sliding into my stuff. Um in person, nobody really talks to me in person. Like if a guy tries to approach me in person, I will like most likely bark at them. Like I'll be like go away. Go away. Really? But no, my sister, if my sister's with me or my friends, they will like literally like really, yeah. Like everybody, everybody I know knows that I'm like locked in. Yeah, and no man should be talking to me.

SPEAKER_06 26:55

Good.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 26:56

Good. I wonder what happened if I love it over here. I wonder what happened if like if I did that with you. Like I s like, let's say I saw you at a freaking food land, right? And you know, I'm like, oh shit, there's Casey. I'm gonna say what's up. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, yeah, we're saying just acknowledging you that's people know that I know you and I've worked with you.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

Like if I if my photographers or anyone like came over and was like, oh hey, Casey, I'm gonna be like, hey, what's up? Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 27:21

You know, we're chilling. So they're not that protected. Yeah, it's like cool.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

No, no, it's like a rando. Yeah, or like it depends on your intentions, you know what I mean? Like if you came over and was like, oh, what's up? You know, I would tell you hi. But if it was like someone being like, hey, you're cute, whatever's go away.

SPEAKER_06 27:40

So um now that you have a boyfriend, did those boundaries tighten up or did they stay the same?

SPEAKER_01 27:45

I think my my boundaries have have been like that for most of the time. I think it's just like that absolutely don't talk to me for other guys. Uh huh. That's the only thing that's like more put in place. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 28:01

Okay, I get that. Yeah, I get that shit.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Because my DM requests have been on like since I made my account public, I made my account like that.

SPEAKER_06 28:08

Was your account always public?

SPEAKER_01 28:10

No, it was private at first, but then when I first started modeling, uh-huh, um, brands don't really want to work with people who have private accounts because they want their stuff to be seen. So I made mine public.

SPEAKER_06 28:23

When I DM'd you, was it public already or was it Yeah? Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

Okay, oh but sometimes like if the requests get like overflowed, I get like a blank thing. And so I was like, oh, some somebody messaged me. And then I went and you were at the top. So then I was like, huh, what is this? So then I showed it to my mom, and then she was like, I remember okay, that's that's cool.

SPEAKER_06 28:46

Yeah, okay. Oh, thanks, mom. Appreciate you, mom, auntie, mama, mama jer.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

Momager, mommager.

SPEAKER_06 28:53

Um, do do do okay. Um, uh, oh, how does your boyfriend um handle the attention you get? Because that's where a lot of relationships start to crack. So the attention that you're getting, um how's he handling that?

SPEAKER_01 29:05

I mean, I don't really think he minds, he knows that like I'm with him or whatever, but he also has like a lot of followers on Instagram. He has a lot more followers than I do. He has almost 18,000 followers. So he stunts on me with that, to be honest.

SPEAKER_06 29:22

Yeah. Um, so I'm gonna flip it. What do you think of like his following and like maybe the DMs that he's getting on the low?

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Um, I don't care.

SPEAKER_06 29:34

Oh, really? Yeah, I don't care. You're that um I don't wanna say confident.

SPEAKER_01 29:38

Secure.

SPEAKER_06 29:39

Yeah, you're that secure of your man's. Yeah. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

Well, look at you.

SPEAKER_06 29:44

I mean, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

I know that's it's kind of crazy. Like, I wouldn't think that I would because like even before like relationships before I'd be like, let me see, like yeah, who the blah blah blah. Uh huh. But like with him, I'm like, nah, he's not he wouldn't do that. Yeah.

unknown 30:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

And I have full access to anything that I would like if I'm hanging out with him, he'd be like, oh, can I just see your phone? Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_06 30:09

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Okay.

The Small Gestures That Seal It

SPEAKER_06 30:12

Speaking of your BF now, what did he do to like um what did he do that made you take him more serious? Um because you I'm gonna assume that you've known him for a coup minute, yeah?

SPEAKER_02 30:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:25

So what made you like, oh shit, BF material?

SPEAKER_01 30:31

Shoot, I think he's always been boyfriend material. Like when we were friends, he would be like, Oh, like one day I told him, like the night before, I was like, shoot, I like really want Starbucks. Oh, like blah blah blah. The next morning he called me and he was like, Oh, like come outside. And he memorized my Starbucks order and he brought it to the house.

SPEAKER_06 30:51

Was that the time where you uh thought to yourself, man, this guy is different from I was like, Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

I never had somebody like just come up out of the blue and get me something. I was like, that's kind of crazy. But then um, I think when he officially asked me to be his girlfriend, that was like a pretty serious moment.

SPEAKER_06 31:10

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01 31:10

That's when it like really, really clicked.

SPEAKER_06 31:13

Where were you?

SPEAKER_01 31:14

Or what was we went to a steakhouse?

SPEAKER_06 31:16

Oh, ooh, okay. Were you all dressed fancy and shit? Really? Heels? Slippers.

unknown 31:22

Heels?

SPEAKER_06 31:22

I wear heels, toes painted. Oh girl, look at you. Um hair on the armpits or anything. Were you wearing like a top?

SPEAKER_01 31:29

Uh like I was wearing um a strapless, like body con dress.

SPEAKER_06 31:34

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:35

Oh, what was my man's wearing?

SPEAKER_01 31:36

He was oh, his outfit was nice. Um, he just cut his hair too, so that was really nice. Um, he was wearing all black because I was also wearing all black. Okay. And then he was wearing black jeans, like a a black, like pro club type of shirt, and like this black jacket with a hat that I got from one of my brands that I gave to him. So he was looking good.

SPEAKER_06 32:00

Girl, go ahead. Mm-mm. And um cool. What'd you guys do afterwards?

SPEAKER_01 32:08

Um, shoot, what did we do afterwards? I don't remember. Is that bad? I'm sorry. Oh, I remember like after we left the steakhouse, we forgot where we parked the car, and we were walking around for like a good 30 minutes looking for where we parked a car. That's all I remember. Loser. He was like, he was like, shoot, I swear it was right here. I was like, okay, this is where I thought it was too. And we're just walking up and down the parking structure for a good 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_06 32:39

Yeah, you're lame. Um, uh, besides him being like conscious with your orders and like being aware of you know what your likes and dislikes is, um shit. What was that one big reason why you chose like differently from the the prior guys that you were with?

SPEAKER_01 33:02

I mean, I guess that's a contributing factor, but like I just always loved, like ever since I met him, I just always loved being around him. Like it really did not matter what we were doing or where we were going. Like, I was hanging out with him when he was just working on his car.

SPEAKER_06 33:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

Like anything. I just like spending time with him.

SPEAKER_06 33:24

That's good.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

So that was like the main thing that I was just like, oh, no matter what we're doing, I'm gonna be happy. We're just together.

SPEAKER_06 33:31

Girl, go ahead. Girl. This is the uh before and after. What's the biggest difference between you when you were single and you in a relationship now?

SPEAKER_01 33:40

Um shoot. I mean, before I was like going out a lot more, like I don't shoot.

SPEAKER_06 33:52

I don't really like it going out as in like drinking and clubbing, going out as like with friends, like what do you mean like specifically like going out?

SPEAKER_01 34:01

I really don't I don't know, hanging out with our friends more. And I don't I feel like I was just so much less focused when I was out of a relationship. Like when I'm single, I just wasn't using my brain, to be honest. Like, I feel like I was so stupid, like not really paying attention, not focusing on my goals and whatever is, but like as soon as I was hanging out with him more, everything just started to like go into perspective.

SPEAKER_05 34:30

Really?

SPEAKER_01 34:31

Like, yeah, I was locked in on school more, locked in on modeling and everything.

SPEAKER_06 34:37

That's good. Yeah, so because I guess you had like he had like the right element to I guess push you forward to get you on track with everything.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Not to give him that much credit. I mean I know, right? It's easy.

SPEAKER_06 34:48

I love you, but like, hey man, great girl.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

I did it myself also.

SPEAKER_06 34:53

Like um, what's harder having standards when you're single or maintaining them when you actually care about someone?

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Uh I think it's easy either way. Oh. Like I always knew my standards, like everything. Before I just put up with bullshit, and then I actually found someone who I'm like, damn, I was worrying about all of that for nothing.

SPEAKER_03 35:20

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 35:21

Like, with him, I really don't have to like make sure that he's being loyal or just check in to see if he loves me. Like, I I just I know it, I feel it.

Why Casual Rarely Stays Casual

SPEAKER_06 35:33

Yeah. Yeah. Girl. Um back in the day in our first pod, we talked about um like casual situation. Casual situations, right? Um, looking at it now, do you still stand on that?

SPEAKER_01 35:45

Wait, what was my take on it? That I I think I said uh that either way, someone's gonna catch feelings. Yeah. I think that's what I said, right? Yeah, I stand on that. Like, if you're gonna do there's no such thing as like casual, casual. Like either way, you guys are intimate. Like something happened between you two. If in the future you're like, oh yeah, that's my friend. Are you really?

SPEAKER_06 36:13

Yeah, I don't know. Like, like, does casual ever really stay casual?

SPEAKER_02 36:18

No, I can see that.

SPEAKER_06 36:20

Well, you know what? I don't I don't see let me take that back. Casual could mean casual if both people understand what's happening.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Yeah, if like you don't want them to be in your future, like you don't in as friends, as anything, like I guess if if that's what you want to do, go ahead and do it. I'm not the one here to tell you that you shouldn't do it, but like personally, just I'm gonna tell you, don't do it. Like, don't do it. That's just it's gonna suck in the long run. It's gonna suck. Cause like it's gonna make your significant other like I don't wanna say worry, but like, you know, if they're around and you're just like, oh no, yeah, this is my friend, yeah. You don't tell them like what happened between you two before and it comes out later, you're fucked.

SPEAKER_06 37:13

So is that a big thing for you? Like, let's say um you're mad now, uh, a person that he he used to not say canoodle with, but like, you know, used to talk to.

SPEAKER_00 37:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:25

Was walking up. Would you want that transparency from him? Saying, yeah, uh, babe, uh, I used to uh hang with her or whatnot.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

Yeah, I mean he would want it from me, so really, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:38

And you wouldn't care.

SPEAKER_01 37:40

Why is As long as he's not like you know, acting all weird or whatever. It's like, say one of the girls was walking over and he was like, Oh my god, oh my god, like blah blah blah. Then I'd be like, go, go f Yeah, okay. Get the fuck away from me then. But he's not that type of guy. He would be like, Okay, so I'm just gonna tell you right now, like blah blah blah, just just to be honest. And then I would be like, Oh, okay. But then if they were to like walk over and be like, oh my god, hi, know your place.

SPEAKER_06 38:12

So it's up to know your place. So it's up to him now for the hey, I'm with her. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

But I feel like he would do that anyways, it really wouldn't matter. Like, uh, I think his ex-girlfriend was like liking his stories and stuff of us.

SPEAKER_06 38:27

Well, what's wrong with that? What's wrong with us? Yeah, what's wrong with that?

SPEAKER_01 38:31

Like, she That's not support. That's like, oh, I see you. But she's liking y'all too.

SPEAKER_06 38:37

Yeah. Why do you see it that way?

SPEAKER_01 38:39

That's like that's like if another girl came over and be like, oh my god, you guys are so cute together.

SPEAKER_06 38:44

Okay, yeah. What if what if it's like Yeah, we are?

SPEAKER_01 38:46

We don't like, yeah, we are. Don't need you to tell me that. Not to sound like a bitch. Okay, wait. I feel like that was really bitchy. Yeah. Hold on. No, I mean, like, if it's someone that like he got with before and she's like, oh my god, you guys are such a cute couple. I know.

SPEAKER_06 39:03

Okay. Like, and then wait, no, no, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 39:06

It's just a blunt, like a no, like in my mind, I'll be like, I know, and then I'll be like, Thanks.

SPEAKER_06 39:12

Jinx, I'll measur you.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

Thanks.

SPEAKER_06 39:14

Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

Hi.

SPEAKER_06 39:16

Tell me why do both men and women, why are they like that?

SPEAKER_01 39:20

When because people are really like shady, snakey, like whatever, whatever. I just seen a TikTok of this one girl saying, like, oh, just like, if you are in college and you have a boyfriend, watch out. And I was just like, okay, wait, I really want to see where this is gonna go. She was roommates with this girl, and then the girl was like taking the boyfriend was taking their picture together, and she was like, Oh, don't worry, girl, I'm not gonna stay your man. Okay, and then she made in the video, she was like, Oh, I know, but what the hell gave you the idea like that you could say that?

SPEAKER_03 39:58

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 39:59

That's what I think. When a girl's like, Oh, you guys are so cute together, you're looking at him and analyzing how he looks next to me.

SPEAKER_06 40:07

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 40:08

So why would you not try and picture yourself next to him?

SPEAKER_06 40:11

Wow, that's some deep psychological shit.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

I may just be crazy, but like, you know. Yeah, you might just be crazy because you're not going to be able to do it. I might just be crazy, but like shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:21

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

Just saying.

SPEAKER_05 40:23

Just shit. You got me thinking.

SPEAKER_01 40:25

I mean, if it's my friends and they're like, oh my god, you guys are so cute. Like, yeah, we are, thanks. Like, blah, blah, blah. But if it's But if it's like a girl that used to get with him before, or like, I know that their intentions aren't fully there.

SPEAKER_06 40:37

Uh-huh. Question. This is a hypothetical. You and your man's now um live off your life happily ever after. Your ex um is with um, you guys, you know, like he uh he apologized for everything he did. You guys are friends. Hold on. And he's with a new boo, right? Along the line of you posting you and your man, you know, being happy, he likes it. Does that, does he fall in that deceptive, naive um category?

SPEAKER_01 41:14

I think that's just weird. I mean, okay, yeah. But there would also be like no hypothetical where I would be like, oh my god, he apologized. It's fine, let's be friends. Fuck no.

SPEAKER_06 41:25

Okay, so you you messed up. How about the the men before him? Are you guys friends or like so once a what's an ex-boyfriend done?

SPEAKER_01 41:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:36

Like there's no like if we could y'all could be.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

There's no way that we can be in that type of relationship. A friendship is still a relationship. Like, you still need trust, you still need like all of that. If I didn't trust you like that, what makes you think I'm gonna trust you again?

SPEAKER_05 41:57

Oh, you make a point.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

Like, you wanna like the last one, he's like, I don't see a future with you. I don't care now. I don't care now. I got somebody who sees a future with me now. Uh-huh. And you know, if his future is the way that I see it's turning out.

SPEAKER_06 42:16

Oh girl. So there's no hypotheticals then, like your exes are just done. No.

SPEAKER_01 42:22

Gone. Bye.

SPEAKER_06 42:23

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

Bye.

Healthy Arguments And Breaking Patterns

SPEAKER_06 42:26

Tough one. You're a tough one. Um, here you go. Uh, every couple has disagreements, right? What does a healthy argument look like to you?

SPEAKER_01 42:35

Um, should we always like just talk it out? There's there's no need to yell, there's no need to like be like, oh, but you said blah, blah, blah. Just let them talk and you talk and just understand how each other feels. Because you're not arguing for nothing.

SPEAKER_03 42:55

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

Like, there's always a reason as to why somebody feels a certain way to just try and figure it out together. Because you're not trying to pin each other like against each other, you know? Like, it's not always like, oh you, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's okay, how are we gonna fix it? Because the goal is to stay together. There's no reason as to why I'll be like, oh, you did this, blah, blah, blah, blah, and be like, I'm right, I'm right, I'm right. Because you don't always want to be right. Like, you want it to end where both of you are right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:30

So you seem like a one of them females that you're you're good to be like locked down with. Why are like women nowadays are so quick to get into that one quick fight and then call it quits and then jump on to like the next man? And vice versa.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

It's just it depends on how much you care about being with them. And a lot of girls nowadays are scared of being hurt by so not even just girls. Be honest, everyone.

SPEAKER_06 44:00

So is that why, like men too? Is that why people are jumping ship at that first like disagreement or argument?

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Yeah, because they don't want to feel stuck, they don't want to feel like, oh, I wasted all this time, whatever, whatever. But then, like, at the same time, if you're not gonna work for it, like, then you're not really ever gonna have it. Okay. Like, everything takes work. I'm not saying like you're gonna fucking break your back working for this stuff, but like, you know, it takes effort. You gotta show that you care, you gotta show that you're there. Like, honestly, I don't think it's that hard, but you know, it's it can be challenging.

SPEAKER_06 44:40

As a woman that's taking now, right? You're taking, um, and you see these things happening, what's going through your head? Like, you see the disagreement, your homegirl's like, yo, fuck him, I'm done. With another dude, same situation happens, I'm out. What's going through your like your head when you're seeing this happen?

SPEAKER_01 44:59

I hate to pull this out of my boyfriend's book because I hate when he says this, but he's always like, it's a pattern. Like you really gotta pay attention to the type of people that you're talking to, your reactions, their reactions. It's all a pattern.

SPEAKER_06 45:14

And would it be the so is it the girl? So basically, would it be on the girl then? Or the guy or the person that's just it's both. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 45:25

Honestly, it's it's never just one person. Well, sometimes it can be, to be honest. Let me let me stop. Um, just be aware of yourself and how you act and everything, because when it comes to the future, like you don't want to be the type of person who was like fucking around doing this and that, and then you know, it follows you. Your past follows you. I learned that the hard way. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 45:53

So speaking on the past following you, right? Uh if you were single doing this dirt, and now that you're in a relationship, why would that past like hinder you from you know, moving on? Because I mean you're single. Okay, as a guy, you're hoing around, this and the third, you meet a female that's like that really intrigued you, you're getting to know this girl. Now that you're together, why is his past like why should his past hinder him from being happy with this female now? No, if you're saying like the past, you know, follows you.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

It's just like pay attention to it, I guess, because some people want to bring their past with them. Like, uh huh, like if that makes sense. Like an argument would be like I don't know, hypothetically, if a girl was like, oh well, like I have other people that I could go to, or I have like or this guy would never do that, or whatever. Well, fuck that.

SPEAKER_06 46:54

That's a done deal. Go be with him then, like that's what I would say.

SPEAKER_01 46:58

Like, don't don't bring it with you. It follows you, but don't let it like you know be with you at all times. Like, learn from it, but don't repeat it.

SPEAKER_06 47:15

Are you a a a gut intuition type of type of woman? So you follow your gut or you follow your intuition. What's the percentage-wise? Like, is it always right? Or are you like fitty fitty?

SPEAKER_01 47:33

Like 70-30.

SPEAKER_06 47:40

Wait, 30 you're wrong or 30 that you're right?

SPEAKER_01 47:43

30 I'm wrong. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:47

How do you feel after that? Like you being wrong. Like you you trusted your gut and you're like, damn, I am totally off with this one. And then how did you make it up?

SPEAKER_01 48:00

I'm just like, damn it. It's okay. Quick recovery.

SPEAKER_06 48:05

What's the quick recovery? You're sorry, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 48:08

No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 48:10

Buy this person a Big Mac.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

If I bought my boyfriend food, he'd be pretty happy, I think.

SPEAKER_06 48:18

I don't um We're easy. We're easily like we're easily pleased.

SPEAKER_01 48:23

No, honestly, I don't think I mean when I mess up in my relationship, I don't think it's like drastically messing up. Like I love, I'm loyal, like I'm not trying to be outside or nothing. So I don't think it would be like oh my god, I'm so sorry, like a lot. I don't think I would have to do all of that.

SPEAKER_06 48:49

You're in a relationship, but you're still doing things independent, right? Alright, so uh you're independent, you move how you move. So how do you balance that with being in a relationship since you're still, you know, doing things independently.

SPEAKER_01 49:04

Um I think the only thing that's hard about all of it is the time difference and the fact that we always have to talk on the phone because he can't always be here with me. That's the only like challenging part about it. But it's honestly not that hard. Or I'm I I just miss him being here. Yeah. But then other than that, like we're both just living our lives separately but together.

SPEAKER_06 49:30

So are you okay with I'm not saying the missed phone call or the missed text, but are you okay with like um an hour like hours on end not contacting each other?

SPEAKER_01 49:43

Um, that happens sometimes because he loses Wi-Fi. So it's like okay. I mean, this morning I haven't got to talk to him yet because I had a photo shoot and then it came here and he's in Guam right now. So like hey, Tatamolik. And um, so yeah, I haven't talked to him yet this morning, but I'll talk to him again later. So I mean, I don't think I think he's happy that I'm doing what makes me happy and helping my career, and he's working to help his career, so we can't really be mad at each other for not answering or not talking to each other all day long because we're both working towards something so that we can be together and you know both be successful in our own.

SPEAKER_06 50:26

I love the fact that you said that because um it gets tiring when you know or you have to constantly contact someone because it's like some type of set schedule or rule.

SPEAKER_00 50:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 50:40

Because sometimes, like when I'm out training, I miss like I miss a call or I miss a text of like, you know, to my wife or my kids, right? But it's because man, sometimes I'm just dead tired and I'm just like, yo, fuck my phone, man. Or like die like degressing. Like sometimes I just want to listen to music. I don't want to talk to anyone and I just fall asleep, miss, you know, missing a hop. So yeah, I like how you like how you broke that shit down to where uh you know you're doing something that is happy, he's doing something that's building on the future with both of y'all, and that's not like hindering, you know, you know what I'm saying? Like getting in the way of y'all's like I'm not gonna force him to stay on the phone with me the entire day.

SPEAKER_01 51:23

Like, if he wants to stay on the phone with me, then he can, if or if he even can because he's working.

SPEAKER_00 51:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:28

Yeah. I have school, I have my own things to do. Yeah. But he knows what I'm doing and where I'm going, and everything's chill.

SPEAKER_06 51:37

Everything's chill.

SPEAKER_01 51:38

Yeah.

Leadership Standards And Cheating Culture

SPEAKER_06 51:39

Cherry. Um, do you think strong women struggle with letting a man lead, or is that just what men say when they can't lead?

SPEAKER_01 51:47

I think that's what men say when they can't lead. Because I mean, I am I guess I'm a strong independent woman. Yeah. I'm but I have no problem with letting my boyfriend like, you know, he's a man. He makes that money.

SPEAKER_05 52:04

You're here to spend it.

SPEAKER_01 52:06

I'm yeah. I'm here to support him through everything that he does, you know, like go make that money, babe. I'll be right here when you get back.

SPEAKER_06 52:19

What would you say? You said uh that's what men say when they can't wait.

SPEAKER_01 52:25

When they can't lead?

SPEAKER_06 52:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 52:27

Why do you think that's why do you think men can't lead? In your like what's honestly it's when they don't have goals.

SPEAKER_03 52:45

Oh really?

SPEAKER_01 52:45

My boyfriend right now, he has his goals, he has his job, like he has his own car, all of that. A lot of guys down here don't got that. They're not working towards something bigger. Like, you gotta see a bigger picture, especially when you're in a relationship, you gotta see a bigger picture. If you're not seeing that future, if you're not working towards it, especially not working towards it together, yeah, it's not gonna work. I feel like I'm being like bitchy all knowing right now. I don't like it. Why? I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_06 53:17

I think it's because you've grown from a lot. Yeah, like from your old situation to now. It's like um, like they say guys mature super slow, but girls mature it's like super fast or whatnot. I guess that saying is somewhat true in this case because you've learned and you've adapted of what happened then and you brought it to what you know now. So I think, yeah, you're emotionally matured and shit. Ugh. Giving her flowers. Fuck that shit.

SPEAKER_00 53:48

Hey, shit. Wait.

SPEAKER_06 53:51

La la la la la.

SPEAKER_00 53:55

Oh my gosh. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 53:57

For someone watching this who feels like their standards are too high, what would you tell them?

SPEAKER_01 54:02

Phew, I mean, what are your standards? Like, how define too high. What is too high? Like, what is something that would be considered too high of a standard?

SPEAKER_06 54:12

Oh no, man. My standard is like for a woman, you got a job, you could um definitely pump your own gas. Like, all the shit that you could do.

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Honestly, I knew a girl, like I used to be friends with this one girl, not friends with her anymore, but she never pumped her own gas. See, why the fuck? I asked her one time, I was like, Oh, um, I'm gonna go pay for this stuff. Can you pump it? And she was like, How do I get this thing open? Girl, twist it, put like button.

SPEAKER_05 54:46

Bro, there's a push.

SPEAKER_01 54:47

You put it in, you freaking pull the handle, and the gas comes out. Like, what's so hard about that? I don't know. Um no, yeah. Honestly, just if you have your standards, just have them. What is too high? Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know. I feel like standards is just it's simple. Yeah, no one should be like, if your standards is like, oh, you have to be like six, seven and above.

SPEAKER_06 55:14

Oh, I know people, I know females like that.

SPEAKER_01 55:17

Then you're being unrealistic because what if that six seven man is like, oh well, I want a girl who's 4'10 and oh, too bad because you're 5'7, like, bro, be can you be serious? Because there is more to a guy than how he looks. Is he gonna treat you well? Is he gonna be all up in your face and be like, eh, shut up? Like, you want a man like that? Oh, but you're 6'7, so it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 55:48

Be fucking for real. Be for real right now. What the hell?

SPEAKER_06 55:53

Oh fuck. Um, and um, what's one thing people still get completely wrong about dating right now?

SPEAKER_01 56:00

Oh, honestly, okay, the cheating culture is absolutely insane. Why are you in a relationship if you want to go fuck on somebody else? Uh-huh. Like, I think that's the most craziest thing right now. Like, there's been so many times where I'm like, I'm talking to somebody and they're like, oh yeah, like I'm gonna go see this person. And I'm like, don't you have like a girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever? And they're like, Oh, but they don't need to know. Oh, you're crazy, you're crazy. Heck no, absolutely not. I just think that's insane.

SPEAKER_06 56:38

Like what on the other end, why do you think the person that's so in your situation, the the person that's on the phone saying, Oh, he's gonna see someone, why do you think that other person is willing to go see that person knowing that person is already in a relationship?

SPEAKER_01 56:54

Shoot, your relationship's already messed up. Why are you in it? Like, if you're looking for something else, you're you're literally looking for something else and you're finding something else. Yeah, why are you gonna drag this other person along and fuck with their mind over what? Just because you got some needs? Like, I guess if they're not meeting it, why are you with them? Why are you not relationship?

SPEAKER_05 57:22

I mean, fuck, you know.

SPEAKER_00 57:25

I tried so hard to pull it and not laugh, but like, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 57:29

Like this is it, man.

SPEAKER_06 57:31

Because what the heck, like if you're if your knees are not getting met, man, damn it. Two minutes of your time.

SPEAKER_05 57:38

Figure it out. You know what I'm saying? Figure it out.

SPEAKER_06 57:41

I told this to like a lot of my friends that are like they're going through it with their spouses, their girlfriends, or whatever, and like they need ass. And I'm just like, dog, ain't nothing porn wouldn't fucking solve.

SPEAKER_01 57:53

Yeah, and also you have categories communicate with your significant other. Oh, oh, communicate with there's this that I want to do. Um, would you want to do it too? Or would you be willing to do this instead of this? Like, brother, why are you freaking texting some other person and being like, oh, let's meet up here and blah blah blah, just don't tell nobody.

SPEAKER_06 58:18

Do you do you think that the person that's requesting this are afraid of that rejection? Like, do you think that they, you know what I'm saying? Like, all right, I mean, I guess, but like put it in your butt. No, fuck. I'm not, I don't want, I don't want it in the butt.

SPEAKER_05 58:31

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 58:32

Like, oh fuck, well, I gotta find someone else that wants it in the butt. You know, like, do you think that you know, like they're afraid of that conversation with that other person?

SPEAKER_01 58:42

Honestly, if you're in a relationship with someone, you should be able to talk to them. That's like the main thing. You should be able to talk to each other. It's really not hard to have a conversation. Just just talk to each other. Like, and if you don't feel comfortable talking to the person that you're in a relationship with, you probably shouldn't be sleeping with them or sleeping with somebody else because that's a lot to commit to. Like, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_06 59:11

Have you ever been to like a serial dater?

SPEAKER_01 59:14

Wait, what?

SPEAKER_06 59:14

A serial dater where you just go on the, you know, not giving up the booty, but just going on these random, you know, these random dates to figure out I like this, I don't like that, this I can learn to like.

SPEAKER_01 59:28

Yeah, I mean, I guess before, like the guys that I was with before, they were like not to be like an absolute bitch, but they're just bums. And they didn't really take me out, they didn't really like, you know, pay attention or give care. Everything that I know, like right now, I hate to give you this much credit again. But like, I figured out how to be myself and be comfortable and have those types of conversations and everything with my boyfriend now. Like, it kind of this relationship really showed me like how a relationship really is supposed to be.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:05

Like, before I would be like, oh, I don't really want to ask, or blah blah blah. I will call my boyfriend right now and be like, babe, I need this, this, this. And he'd be like, Okay, well, what do you like, what do you need it for? Blah, blah, blah. I just have to explain myself.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:23

And it'll be done.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:24

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:25

Like, and he can call me and be like, I need this, this, this done. And or I feel uncomfortable about this, or whatever, whatever. Just talk it out, figure it out, and we're good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:37

That's good.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:39

Everything. Hallelujah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:41

Hallelujah. You are in a good place. I'm happy for you, girl.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:45

Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:46

You know, hopefully I get when I get you back on. Um, it'll be some type of oh man, look at my something's heavy. My shit is heavy. Shit, that was fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:00

Yeah. Thank you for coming back on.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:01

Thanks for having me. Oh, yeah.

Shoutouts And Where To Follow

SPEAKER_06 1:01:03

Do you have any shout outs or anything? Or where can these people uh mind you guys if they haven't been following you?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:07

Find me on Instagram, K.ac e E. And if you are a brand, let me know my drip you all time.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:20

Um, shout out to uh San Fran Psycho.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:24

Thank you for the digs, appreciate you.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:26

Um, K Studio, thank you for the lovely home. Raffi Body, thank you for the lovely vibe, man. And with that, I'm Chris. And I'm Casey. We out this bitch. Peace.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:37

We did that thing, we did that thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:40

We did that thing, bro. How was it?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:43

That was a lot better than last time. I remember the last time I came on, I was it. Yeah, I was like, no, yeah.