S5E2 Summer Series: Removing Money Splinters with Dr Ezzie Spencer

Dr Ezzie Spencer is a former human rights lawyer turned international 5x best selling author, founder & creator of the Splinter Method®.  She finds and removes your money splinters in multiple channels through her multivalent method.

When you take out your money splinters, making money in your business will be faster & easier than ever before (without doing more). You will stop being a woman who chases money — and instead become a woman who receives money with true feminine flow.

Ezzie first appeared on the podcast back in S1 E47 Trusting Me, Trusting Life with Dr Ezzie Spencer.

I asked Ezzie to come back on and share the new process she has developed for Removing Money Splinters. In this ep we chat about:

• the Money Splinter process and how this modality was developed by Ezzie, and exactly what happens inside of a session
• Unconscious vows, your internal decisions and dialogues that have been formed as protective mechanisms to keep you safe
• Splinter removal, the way Ezzie sees and senses the small external ways that life has "come into" us
• The subtlety and delicacy of Ezzie's work and the importance of her clients coming to their own realisations through her carefully designed process
• the three main channels - Power, Peace and Love - and how splinters in each can show up for female entrepreneurs
• the generative impact of Ezzie's work in the world, and how she personally experiences being a co-creator in a Money Splinter session

Find Ezzie online at www.ezziespencer.com

Head here to do Ezzie's Money Splinter Quiz.

And find her Reflection Cards and Lamp here.

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TRANSCRIPT - Summer Series: S5E2 Ezzie Spencer

Ezzie Spencer: [00:00:00] I spoke about the splinters. as essentially blocking the flow or having us be repellent or the opposite of magnetic, and obviously wanting to take the splinters out in order to come home to ourselves. So then we're really magnetizing towards us all the opportunities that are correct and right for us.

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Hello, hello, hello, my love. Kylie here. Happy, happy new year. You are just about to dive into a very special summer series episode because I worked all the way through Christmas and New Year but I'm taking some space and grace because I'm just about to turn 50. So, whilst I'm offline, enjoying and celebrating and marinating in stepping into a whole new decade, we have chosen a few of our favorite episodes.

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Kylie Patchett: Hello, everybody. Welcome to the podcast. I have a return guest, which doesn't [00:04:00] happen very often. So welcome back to the studio, Dr. Ezzie Spencer. How are you? I am so well, I'm so excited to be back. I had literally been waiting all day for this interview because the last conversation was so cheesy. It was actually, we were just saying the last conversation we had was the day that I woke up with my glass lamp.

Smashing on my floor. And it was some like new moon, I can't remember exactly what Austria astrologically was happening, but there was something that was earth shattering and my lamp shattered. So I don't know what's going to come out of this one.

For those people who have not come across you before, which I don't think will be very many people. But would you like to introduce yourself for those who don't already know you and your brilliant work in the world? 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah. So I'm Dr. Esi Spencer, standout as a human rights lawyer, which people often so surprised to hear when they hear what it is that I'm doing now, like I took a bit of a cosmic turn in life.

Pivot! Exactly. Yeah. And right now I'm working with. Entrepreneurs to help to remove money splinters from their consciousness. So they can raise their income ceilings, but do so with a greater quality of life experience. So there's a lot in between the first part of the story of what I just said, a lot of that territory, even though yes, that's something I should say.

Kylie Patchett: So as he was last on the podcast in season one, episode 47, which I've linked in the show notes to this chat, because If you don't know lots of the story in between, because we're not going to retell all of it. But even though I know that you are a human rights lawyer, when I went back to that episode, I was like, I just don't like, it's not what comes to my mind when I think of you and what you do.

But then I guess people say that about my original career too. So fair enough. Anyway, here we are last time we were speaking about, and I was just saying to you, I love Watching the evolution of your work, because I feel like it goes higher and higher, and then I was like, but it's deeper and deeper. It goes in [00:06:00] both directions.

It's getting bigger, but I don't know. So let's catch up where we left off, which was, I don't know what the date was of that one, but it was, a fair while ago. I want to say well more than a year. What has been happening in your universe to unfold money splinter work? How did it happen? 

Ezzie Spencer: So great question.

I 

Kylie Patchett: like to think I can occasionally ask a good one. 

Ezzie Spencer: So I, was living in LA at the time that we recorded the last episode. And at that time, I actually haven't listened to the episodes. I can't remember exactly what was going on. So let me just say, take a stab in the dark, play a bit of Battleships. But I, at the time that we've recorded that last episode, which was sometime, I think early in 2023, I had thrown open my doors to doing the splinter removals and the unconscious valve removals.

And I can talk about how they are in relation to each other in the channels and we'll go into all of that. We went into that last episode, but I'll definitely speak about what that looks like in relation to the money splinters. So I'd thrown my doors open at that point to work with basically anyone.

On any topic, like anybody who is experiencing a splinter in the power lab or peace channels. Now, what I found working in LA was that I experienced a lot of creative, spiritual entrepreneurs coming to me to work with money. And straight away. Oh my gosh. I can even feel the energy of it. I'm sitting up straight.

I'm ready. Exactly. So whilst I was working with people on like creativity, purpose, self expression, fitness, love, like all these topics, it was the. Money sessions where I found that there was a rapid acceleration of consciousness. And now that's my mission in life is to contribute to the evolution, the expansion of human consciousness.

So I noticed [00:08:00] that firstly, the entrepreneurs were getting very practical, tangible results. Like walking out of a session, having. 100, 000 launch or a new business or very measurable metrics. But I was having the experience myself of feeling an acceleration of consciousness. There just was an electric energy in the money session.

So for 2023, I continued on doing lots of different topics, but by the end of 2023, I decided to just. Really narrow in with precision on the thing that was the most exciting to me and when people were just coming back again and again, because they just wanted more and more because they're like hit me, Then I started to here we are in 2024, decent way into 2024. And of course, when I started to specialize, which I have this year, all of these years specialize in working with female entrepreneurs who are already experiencing a level of success. But need support to get out of their own way to go to the next level or to experience growth that is more easeful in nature.

Yeah. Yeah. It's not just about making more money. In a different way. Exactly. It's about the quality of the experience that you have because we're all done with the grind and the hustle and all of that. So 

Kylie Patchett: 2011 

Ezzie Spencer: as EO. 

Kylie Patchett: That's when we first met. That's what I was doing back then. Oh my 

Ezzie S video: gosh. Yes.

Oh, you and me both, my friend, 

Kylie Patchett: more 

Ezzie Spencer: feminine flow, more ease. Yes, please. But without selling it like a magic pill, of course, it's oftentimes the missing link. And obviously I'm working with energy. I work with positive psychology. So I I get. Into very deep places with people, but to make these micro attunements, right?

Like I'm not doing like huge excavations of something brand new. What it is I'm often doing is someone is connecting the dots of a lot of the work that they've [00:10:00] done before. And it's like that last little piece, like you pull that little energetic lever and it's like. everything else 

Kylie Patchett: is in place.

Everything's open. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Exactly. 

Ezzie Spencer: You can take that leap you need to have the foundation underneath that in terms of you need to know what it is you're selling, you've got to have experience with business. You've got to have access to a network and a clientele I can't wave a magic wand around any of those things.

Kylie Patchett: There's no skipping any of that people, 

Ezzie Spencer: as it turns out, unfortunately, There's nothing. Yeah. So it's been really fun to build out a body of work around the money piece. 

Kylie Patchett: So I'm interested to hear how, because last time we were talking about unconscious vows and removal of splinters. And so what's the juxtaposition, that's a big word for this time of the afternoon.

I don't even know what that means at this time of the day. What is the overlap? I'm going to use that word instead of Like how did it, because a lot of the time when I'm speaking with you, it's you have this really cool ability to pattern recognize and bring it back to, it's it's the same root cause, but these are the ways that it plays out.

And so if we just go down here and pull the splinter out, then everything becomes a lot more easeful. And it's not that hustle and grind and. Sustainable that sometimes we can try on precise. So what was the evolution of that? And how do they overlap? 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah, great question. Again, I just love it.

You're just like so attuned. You're one of the best kind of my jam. 

Kylie Patchett: I keep on saying what would be the best. Splinter for you to remove from me. Figure out how to monetize a podcast so I can do this full time. That is what I would like to do. . Oh, alright. Engineer is the I know, right?

Challenge. Challenge. Accepted. 

Ezzie Spencer: Don't down a g gaunt with me. 

Kylie Patchett: It's like red rag to her energy finding . . 

Ezzie Spencer: Oh, this is gonna be so [00:12:00] fun. Oh dear. Yeah. So the really interesting thing is. Is that inside of a session I'm actually doing an unconscious vow and a splinter removal. So again, I can't remember exactly how I was describing it earlier last year, but I'll describe it here now.

And essentially because this work is actually So energetic, it has taken me so many times of speaking through it to find the ways where I'm describing it with integrity, and it's landing in a way that's comprehensible. 

Kylie Patchett: That is literally the challenge that I have with working with copywriting, with spiritual healers and helpers.

Take the nebulous thing and wrap language around it, which really is very difficult to do when it's so nebulous, and then have it actually make sense to people. Anyway, continue. I'm going to stop interrupting. 

Ezzie Spencer: No, it's perfect because it's, it, the challenge is real. And so I first started speaking about this method, which I've developed, which is really a modality.

And I can speak into what a session looks like as well for the reason that I think that will actually cost a little bit more light, but just a little bit more context is that I started speaking about the is in 2018. Yeah. In fact, I recently surfaced a video of me in New York speaking about the splinters, which was fascinating and how I discovered the splinters, which is also a very cool story, which we can go to.

Yes, please. Yeah. Then I wrote a a proposal for a book. Yes. Which is, which was actually never published. So that book was called Magnetic. And I wrote about splinters in that book at the end of 2018, beginning of 2019. 

Kylie Patchett: I don't think that I actually have heard that part of the story because magnetic happens to be one of my favorite words.

Magnetic, radiant, splinters. Anyway, I 

Ezzie Spencer: love that. So there's a whole other, there's a whole other story. Again, I don't want to keep open looping you, but there's a whole other story about [00:14:00] I know what am I doing here? I guess I'll come back and draw it all together and happy to double click on anything.

But the, book, was also where I spoke about the splinters. as essentially blocking the flow or having us be repellent or the opposite of magnetic, and obviously wanting to take the splinters out in order to come home to ourselves. So then we're really magnetizing towards us all the opportunities that are correct and right for us.

So we're able to really live in alignment with our highest vision and our highest mission and our service to humanity. So that was that book. Then I switched focus and started talking about it in terms of the unconscious vows, because what happens with the unconscious vow is that it basically sits at the top of a channel.

And there's three channels that I see when I look at a human. So I see the power channel run down the right hand side, the love channel down the middle and the peace channel down the left hand side. So the conscious vow. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah. So these are like energetic. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. I'm just getting a picture. Yes. Yes. I love that.

I saw you 

Ezzie Spencer: construct that visual. I love that. I would never play poker, Kylie. So at the top of each one of these channels is an unconscious vow, which is essentially an agreement that we make with ourselves to keep ourselves safe to keep ourselves in the familiarity. So it would be a better way of perhaps phrasing that.

So it's an unconscious agreement, meaning that it might not make sense to our conscious mind. And a great example of that would be, Hey Let's just talk about in the context of the work that I do I'm an entrepreneur making six figures. I want to make seven figures consciously.

That's the goal. I'm going for it. I'm consciously I've decided to stay in the familiarity zone because what would that mean? It would mean that I would lose people who I care about. It would mean that I would have greater visibility and that would be scary and dangerous to me on a physical level and for my family.

I would, wouldn't know, I wouldn't know what to do with the money so it's all. The reasons why we [00:16:00] make these unconscious vows or these unconscious agreements to stay in the familiarity zone. And obviously this is what generates a huge amount of resistance and sometimes chaos, which might look like self sabotage at the point at which we actually go for the up level, right?

Yes. Gotcha. So the first thing I always need to do when I'm working with someone is to find and release the unconscious vowel. Once we surface the unconscious out into the conscious by definition, it no longer exists. It's not unconscious. And so we're able to let it go. And it's not 

Kylie Patchett: running us on autopilot.

Correct. Yes. 

Ezzie Spencer: Exactly. So, whilst I was working with the splinters in 2018, I really brought in the unconscious vowel aspect. In 2019, particularly when I was working in the area of love. Yes. And working with helping women to recover from toxic relationships, which is the coaching program that I ran for five years.

Yeah. And that was hearkening back to that initial. Career that I had my PhD was in therapeutic jurisprudence. And we've been subjected to domestic violence and abuse. So it was like, that was a big career arc in terms of healthy relationships and self worth and so forth. So that's why I refined this method, the splinter removal method and the unconscious valve.

It's all part of the same thing through the length of love. So that was like my process. Exactly right. That was my sort of, that was my training ground, if you will. Yes. And I ran a 12 week program and it used to take me 12 weeks to help people take out their, 

Kylie Patchett: I can imagine be like, I want love, but I keep on repeating the same.

Yes, indeed. Exactly. 

Ezzie Spencer: So now I do it in 90 minutes, but it used it took me a long time to get it so distilled into the same. Experience. That's the first part of the unconscious valve. Now, why do we make an unconscious valve as we alluded to before it's literally to keep ourselves safe, right? Like it looks like self sabotage, but in reality, it's self protection.

Yeah. So what are we protecting ourselves against? That's the vulnerability or the pain that comes along with the splinter. And what is a splinter? That's the way that life has pierced us or pierced our consciousness. 

Kylie Patchett: Oh, I remember you saying that last time it's all coming back to me. Yes. [00:18:00] This is why I love the, language of splinter.

Cause it's you when you get a really bad, big splinter and that is all you can literally feel. And it's it's this little tiny thing, but it's literally in my awareness all the time. And yeah, so that's why I really liked the language. Cause it's I can feel how frustrating it is to have this thing, but.

Kind of not to be able to identify where it is or how do I remove it? Or why am I making this mistake again? And yeah, all of that, making yourself wrong for things. I think that's where my brain goes. It's like, why 

Ezzie Spencer: can I not just figure this out? Exactly. Which is in a nutshell, and again, just totally nailed it because the reality is that a splinter is just that.

Like it's just imagine you're walking outside with bare feet and it's like a tiny little shard of wood. It's actually not a big deal if you have the tools to remove it at the time. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Yes. Oh, 

Ezzie Spencer: yes. And I actually see splinters in people. That was part of the spiritual awakening that I had on the 15th So it was a long time until I found Fully figured out how to take the splinters out.

Gotcha. I've been circling around this for so many years as I've alluded to, but it was only really, yeah. As I said when I was working with ReLove, when I was working with women with the love splinters that I figured out. Really honing into how I could take it out and then realizing that it's also universal, right?

Like we don't just have love splinters. The splinters are splintering our power, love and peace channel. So for example, if you're saying or if you catch yourself saying what's wrong with me That's a good sign that the splinter or the primary splinter is in the power channel. 

Kylie Patchett: I was gonna say you're gonna say power I 

Ezzie Spencer: know 

Kylie Patchett: damn you're going to say power.

What makes you say that? Oh, just because it feels like a continuing theme of being scared to step into the full [00:20:00] power. So I'm like, there's got to be something like, I don't feel like peace or love is my like, Achilles heel, either of those things, but there's definitely, yeah, has been a continuing kind of theme of, and actually when I look back The podcast interview I did before we were recording this one was about someone who had gone through certain things in childhood.

And I was reflecting afterwards and I'm like, far out when those things happen and someone does something to you, which is incorrect and unsafe with power over often the response. And it certainly has been in my life is to try and have power over other people as a protective mechanism. So as we're talking, I'm like, Oh, another layer just appearing before my eyes.

Yeah. Yeah. 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah. Interesting. 

Kylie Patchett: And that power from, I just came back from a retreat an amazing, oh my God, like a life changing retreat all around the feminine with a friend of mine who's a psychotherapist who works with tantric sex and menopause and masculine and feminine. And we were talking about power over power from within power, this power, that, and I just had so many like chiropractic adjustments of how I was like, Whoa, okay.

Yeah. Wow. That's very cool. Very cool. And so you. See these like in a session or maybe, I'll leave that until you actually describe our session works because that might be a better place to ask that. Yeah. Yeah, I think, we can dive into that now, I think, because it makes sense. So in a session. A session is three parts.

Ezzie Spencer: And so the first part. Is the unconscious bowel removal. And so there's a particular series of questions that I ask someone now it's really interesting because to answer the question you actually just asked me, which is that I see the splinter. I do. I see the splinter in people. However, what I found to be so much more effective and potent is to lead someone into their own.

Connection with their own splinter through their own words. So I have designed a very specific series of. [00:22:00] Words and questions and prompts in the surfacing of the unconscious bowel. And I've done this thousands of times, right? Like I said, there'd been a lot of trial and error with this, but I've got it super dialed.

So then we can really get. The conscious mind on board, because if the conscious mind is not on board, 

Kylie Patchett: yes, 

Ezzie Spencer: then what the mind is going to do, it's going to continue to generate all the stories and narratives that are simply the mind doing its job to protect yourself. 

Kylie Patchett: Yup. Get the fire hose out.

We're burning alive. Something bad is happening. Yes. Correct. Correct. And 

Ezzie S video: so everything that I'm doing, I'm seeing like, I'm not ever. I'm not manipulating or tricking or hypnotizing or anything. Someone is fully awake and lucid. And I'm explaining each single part of the process. So then someone's mind is fully on board.

So I only work with people who are incredibly self aware who've already done a lot of work. This is not a therapy session. It's like, why am I not earning? 500 K a year or 500 K a month. Like it really depends upon the individual that I'm working with. It's I've got the goal.

I'm doing all of the work. I've got the strategy. And yet I keep meeting stubborn resistance. I know I need to get out of my own way. But I don't know how that's the, 

Kylie Patchett: if you're not watching the video, I'm crossing my eyes at myself. We 

Ezzie Spencer: are all there on time and time again, because this is a really interesting thing.

It's and I think this is something which is so beautiful from the perspective of self compassion self forgiveness, which is the What I call the magical magnaplasm formula, which is the way that I actually draw the splinter out, which is that I do not go jabbing with tweezers to continue the metaphor, to try to like, find the thing that hurts.

Yeah, dig it out with the scalpel. Correct. We [00:24:00] all have Enough of that in our lives, right? This is a very gentle feminine practice, which works with that principle of magnetism. Like the way that I'm creating the experience when we get into part two of the process, which is where we find and remove the splinter.

And again, there's a very specific series. Of prompts and a dialogue that I lead someone through while I'm doing that. But I'm really working with energy as well. So I do this over zoom, but it's a combination of someone with their eyes closed by the time we get to part two, someone's really inside of the internal experience, there's breath work involved.

We're really working with this medicine of self compassion and self forgiveness, but not in an intellectual way. Like it's. Very much felt in the bodies. Yeah. It's a felt sense and I can catch the center of where it is and I track into it. And so it's like a little bit of, again, let's work with the visual of the splinter in the left toe.

It doesn't matter how great you are at taking up space. Splinters if you're looking in the right heel for the problem, so to speak, it's all about knowing exactly where to look with precision. And so understanding that track is part of what it is that I'm doing partly through the part one process with the unconscious vow, because the unconscious vow and the specificities of the unconscious vow is going to point us straight shot.

To the splinter, which is going to be underneath, in terms of the energetic channel. Yes. And so once we're in there with that level of precision, then essentially I'm holding the magneplasm there and magneplasm, if you're not familiar with it is an actual ointment.

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. 

Ezzie Spencer: Which you can apply on the skin to draw splinters up to the I know. And when you said that, I was like, 

Kylie Patchett: did I 

Ezzie Spencer: hear that correctly? Indeed. Indeed. Yeah. So it's so, drawing it out in part two, using this really beautiful feminine practice is a key part of the release process. And there's an actual palpable relief when it comes out, right?

Like I can feel it and [00:26:00] the other person can feel it as well. You could feel it when it comes out, which is so incredibly cool. I'm obviously working with, again, highly attuned people. Yes. Yeah. You wouldn't be 

Kylie Patchett: trying this. Yes. Someone I know who's that's fine. Good. It's all good. 

Ezzie Spencer: Exactly.

Exactly. And usually we're not traversing brand new territory. As I mentioned before, we're literally coming at it from the side. So when I say that we're coming at it from the perspective that the conscious mind doesn't usually approach it. So we're able to find that. Blind spot, if you will, or we're able to find the place where the mind stories or narratives about what reality is or what is possible for me or like how hard I would have to work to earn a million dollars, for example, like that's a classic.

Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. That sounds like a lot of work or I haven't seen any other examples of other women doing that in this way, and so, the mind will spin these stories. So we actually do need to come at it from the side to connect with our own deeper inner wisdom and inner truth. Take this out in part two, and then that brings us into part three, which is the true state.

And the reason why I call it the true state is because. What it is that I'm doing with someone is not reprogramming the subconscious mind. I'm literally supporting them to remove impediments from them being truly authentically themselves. Yeah. And someone's true state is always going to be one of personal power, self love, wholeness, coherence.

It's that is who we all are in our essence. The unconscious hour is going to be a set of internal. Like limiting beliefs or the types of internal conversations that we have with ourselves, which are always a symptom, not the cause, not the root, the splinter is actually something that is external to us.

And this is really important because it's a foreign object. It's the way that life has entered you either in this lifetime or from before [00:28:00] this lifetime. It is not your fault. You didn't do 

Kylie Patchett: anything wrong. Isn't that a nicer place to rest? Then a lot of ways to approach things, actually, as you're talking, it is, it's the polar opposite of thinking as a lot of us have been conditioned that what the answer is to put more time or more effort or more something like try harder.

And actually by the sound of it, it's we're just removing something that is like dirt on the windshield of who you really are or how you're naturally designed to be and how you're born being until the world gets up in our grill and has its way with us 

Ezzie Spencer: or 

Kylie Patchett: something like that. 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah, exactly.

And you know what's really interesting is that sometimes we inherit splinters. So we also can be born, for example, inheriting things down the ancestral line. So things that, for example, transcend behavioral modeling in the childhood home, they might actually be things that happened to like our grandparents.

Like I once had a session with someone and the splinter was a splinter that had happened to her father before she was born, but it came out with so much clarity. During the session, she was like this is one of the common things I hear in a session. Like, how did we get there? We're literally doing this on zoom over 90 minutes and I'm fully lucid and awake.

Like how did we get there? And it doesn't necessarily make sense to the conscious mind and yet it all does. At the end. And when we have the clarity as to how we move forward from there, because that's going to also be in your true state, which is not just a change in energetic state which is something that we need to keep working with over time, but also what is going to be the easiest and the fastest way for me now to make more money without doing more.

Kylie Patchett: Yes. How do I show [00:30:00] up? That Erd on the windshields telling me I need to do something. That's actually not the truth of what. Yes. How it could unfold in the most flow and easeful way. Very cool. How often in a session, like I know you just said how do we get there? Do people, is it more likely that people are aware of Some of the story that is the unconscious vow, or do you find most often people it's we've done layers of healing here.

We've done X, Y, Z, whatever. And then what shows up in a session is not an expected thing. Or is it maybe a mix? I don't know whether there's an answer one way or the other. 

Ezzie Spencer: I would say in every single session, people say, Oh my gosh, I was not expecting that. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. That's very cool. 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah. Because I think if you can get there with your conscious mind alone already, you would have people are only turning to The work that I do when they haven't been able to figure it out.

Yeah. Like I work with massively successful people, action takers they're not just hanging 

Kylie Patchett: around waiting for it to fall in their lap. Correct. That's very cool. Do you find, because I'm going back to the real love stuff that we talked about last time. Do you agree with the idea that how you do one thing you do everything and so if this imbalance turned up in your love slash partnership life, then your ability to receive through flow financially is also impacted or do you not?

Ezzie Spencer: What is really interesting with money. Is that the growth is actually infinite. And so what I find is that by the time people come to work with me, they're not say grappling with, worthiness issues, which would have [00:32:00] them get into relationships with toxic people as one example, right? Yes. And so there'll be like a certain level of coherence or.

Completion for lack of a better word. What I mean by completion is they have their channels open and flowing up to a certain point. The difficulty comes when they choose to up level again. And so I'm also working with not to throw too many. Of my magical systems and frameworks into the mix, but I think this one's going to be relevant.

Yeah. Is that I also work with these golden elevators. What I mean by that is that for example, entrepreneurs might come to me because they want to raise their revenue either on a monthly basis or an annual basis. But sometimes entrepreneurs might come to me because they want to do a capital raise. I've worked with women 10 million to a hundred million dollars.

And that's actually different from like generating cash through your business. It's a different golden elevator, if you will. So sometimes I'm working with people who are wanting to raise their monthly revenue or their annual revenue. And then sometimes I'm working with entrepreneurs who are wanting to raise capital.

So I've worked with entrepreneurs who've raised. 10 million in capital, a hundred million dollars in capital. And so what might happen is someone might have a really great salary already might be really comfortable raising 10 million, but it's a bit like that Winston Churchill quote, which is like the further backwards you go than the higher.

You can go I'm talking about higher in terms of golden elevators, but further into the future, you can actually see. And so someone may not have any issues in their life at all until they take that next big swing up. And then when they take that next big swing up, something that actually truly terrifies them, or they think is not possible for them, that it might kick up splinters, if you will, that are latent, that haven't caused any issues before.

They haven't gone there 

Kylie Patchett: before. 

Ezzie Spencer: They haven't gone there before. And you know what? They may have like really [00:34:00] beautiful, healthy relationships grounded in self worth. Like they might've really mastered that area of that, of the, of their life in that area, or they may not have really had a lot of splinters in that area of their life.

And yet they may still find that a love splinter is exposed at the point at which they go for the next 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. And 

Ezzie Spencer: so what that might look like is asking who am I to ask for that much money? Yeah. Or who am I as a woman to raise capital? 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. That was my question. 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah. So it's like some of these splinters.

Actually not even personal, maybe they're inherited, down the family line, but they can also be collective. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Working 

Ezzie Spencer: with things that are really big archetypal level as well. When we go for that next big upgrade and money, I think is the ultimate in terms of that transformation because it literally can keep going up.

Kylie Patchett: yeah Yeah. Yeah. It's so interesting as you're talking, I've got, It's something that I put on a bookmark way back when I wrote my first book, and it basically it's not basically, the words are you're never a victim of your circumstances. You're only ever a victim of what you believe is possible.

And as you're talking about the it's like I can master to 10 million. That doesn't feel like a stretch to me. I've already done that. I've already, I'm already Comfortable being a woman who, or how whatever the internal language is, but it's like when I go for something that I haven't gone before, then You can see anywhere where there's that.

If you go back to the dirt on the windshield or yeah, the splinter, like you can become aware of it for the first time. When you're working, so you always work with women or also work with men. 

Ezzie Spencer: I sometimes work with men. I would say that it's mostly women for the reason that women tend to be already really on board with the concept energy.

I don't want to be in a conversation where I'm working [00:36:00] against someone's resistance about whether what it is that I do is real. You're selling the concept. 

Kylie Patchett: No. I'm 

Ezzie S video: not interested. 

Kylie Patchett: Not available for that. 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: The reason I asked that is because do you see different versions depending on gender conditioning and socialization?

I guess that's where my question was going. 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah. Amazing question. I would say for women, they want more ease. For men, they're excited by the challenge. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah 

Ezzie Spencer: Gross, simplification in terms of gender. But that's in my small in my relatively small sample of clientele.

Yeah. I would say that's the primary difference. 

Kylie Patchett: Which then makes me wanna say more money in the hands of women who are, because to me there's nothing wrong with wanting the challenge. I, understand that, but. As you said, challenge, my brain was going and the men are seeking the status or the whatever, which may not be.

And it may not be true in the work that you do, but I'm just wondering, it feels, I don't know, it feels like I've been reading a really cool book by Sam Garcia about regenerative business and the concepts behind that, which I'm, rereading. And one of the things that I really love about What she does in the world is she is creating amazing income for herself and her family and very loudly saying that gives her the ability to invest in what she believes needs to be funded.

So for her, that's regenerative agriculture and re re or returning land in Hawaii to it's original healthy self over time, obviously, and that has been really speaking to me. It's if we have more money and therefore more choice and more freedom in the hands of women who are driven by potentially different things.

Then maybe maybe that's part of the solution for a lot of things. And [00:38:00] if that's a gross oversimplification, what do you find? When, so someone will come and have a session. What are the crazy things that have happened as a result? Like things that I'm sure you get, I'll constantly get DMS or emails going, Holy geez, Louise, this like your golden elevator is I'm in a penthouse and I keep going.

It's, I look, I almost feel like sometimes I even just need to be careful about what it is that I say for the reason that I don't want to seem like I'm selling snake oil, because it also depends on where someone is in terms of their business circumstances when they come in. But I've had people coming in to a session with me and You don't walk out and make hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in the following week, but to do it with like more ease and peace.

Ezzie Spencer: And I can't believe how neutral this feels I can't believe how incredible this feels. I've had people within 24 hours, like hit delusional income goals. Raise the 10 million like within 24 hours. And again, I just need to be super careful as I talk about this, just from an ethical perspective.

Yeah. Yeah. I understand that, but 

Kylie Patchett: yeah, the reason I ask is because to me, if you're just going back to your natural state, which is yeah, ease, peace, flow, everything that's yours is coming to you because there splinters in the way, no. Unconscious shizzle going on it must create quite phenomenally crazy realities.

I guess that's what I'm trying to say. And maybe a better question is, When someone comes into a session, how are you feeling about where they are? Is there a sense of frustration or a sense of like bewilderment of I can't figure this out. And I'm used to figuring things out. And then after where are they feeling wise?[00:40:00] 

Ezzie Spencer: That's a great question. I would say,

I would say people come in with more of a sense of curiosity at the level at which I'm working with people. I think when we dig into it, if there's frustration there, we will find it. 

Kylie Patchett: Maybe that's just my generator language of. 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah. And it is going to be there particularly for working in the power channel, which is interesting that you bring it up again, that's a bit of a tell, but sometimes part of what it is that I'm doing is that because we're working with such a micro adjustment, like it really is that tiny little splinter in the left little toe, they may even have difficulty accessing the emotion for the reason that it's not that big a deal.

Like it's, and it may not even fit with the identity that they have for themselves. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. I gotcha. It's 

Ezzie Spencer: I'm not a person that beats myself up or my 

Kylie Patchett: choices, or 

Ezzie Spencer: I'm not a person. I don't hold the identity of someone who like, isn't fully in receiving mode. Like I'm great at receiving I'm always in my feminine I'm a really soft CEO and all of that is true.

But it's we find the little parts. Yeah. Where there's still some rigidity and holding, again, it's below the level of the conscious mind. Yeah. And so that's part of what makes this process so, amazing, I think, because then you can really relax into that identity of someone who gets to. receive in feminine flow, someone who gets to rise with less effort and more ease because of all those foundational building blocks are in place and the grinding and the hustle is at this point just a habit 

Kylie Patchett: and it's not a habit that is serving.

Gotcha. Gotcha. It's, it sounds like it's the word that keeps coming to my mind is delicate work, almost like it's the fine tuning like I [00:42:00] have this sense of you just

We're not talking about this huge resistance, huge resistance that's stopping you from getting to this level. It's just like the, I don't know, it's like the icing on the cake or the fine tuning. The delicate is the word that keeps coming to me. How do you, what, how do you experience these sessions thinking back to when you were mainly doing relove and that was, and as you so beautifully put it, like that natural arc of where you started.

What your PhD was in and I don't want to say closing the circle because that probably. May not feel right, but that arc of where that work naturally unfolded to, how does this feel compared to that work for you? 

Ezzie Spencer: That's an interesting question. I feel one thing which is super interesting is that with each session that I do with someone I'm, there as the facilitator, but something happens inside of me as well. There's something that, that that's, like a, There's like a battery pack effect, right? Where something shifts and changes inside of me. So what that means is that my growth, my internal growth, my own consciousness is very rapidly changing. Yes.

Shifting, evolving, and expanding. Yeah. So I find it difficult now to even go back and feel like how it felt a few years ago when I was working more directly in terms of helping women to rebuild their sense of self. So 

Kylie Patchett: I 

Ezzie Spencer: think probably one thing is that the work that I did, say in, in, inside of relove and I said before it took, used to take me because of my own like skill level and experience about 12 weeks to take a split out of someone, which was still amazingly fast in the sense that they had a life changing translation, but 

Kylie Patchett: compared to having it for your entire life, I'm sure that they were appreciative.

Ezzie Spencer: [00:44:00] Exactly. Exactly. But then people would say, oftentimes keep renewing and maybe work with me in a container over a period of 12 months. And we'd look at other, other parts of self. Like I'd say that there was probably, I don't think deeper work is quite right. It's maybe there was some heavier work that was happening there because of the nature of the issues that I was working with.

Yes. Yes. Whereas I'd say now. Again, you've hit the nail on the head. It's more that there are subtle internal shifts. 

Kylie Patchett: Oh, subtle is a better word than delicate. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. 

Ezzie Spencer: So I think that there's been a refinement just inside of myself, inside of the type of clientele that I now attract. And I'm not meaning to say it's, better or worse.

Like it's just in a way it's, it's different. So I would say that the results. Of the work that I do now is exponential and so incredibly observable in the sense that like money is a metric that can be very easily documented and quantified. Exactly. Obviously when you're in the situation of dating and love, you can quantify that in the sense of so many people that I worked with got engaged and got married and had babies.

There is a quantification measure. It's, it, people were, people would perhaps talk about it as being like more like a, of a hard left turn, like a one eighth, 

Kylie Patchett: yes. Gotcha. Gotcha. 

Ezzie Spencer: Versus, I think, speaking into this theme of delicacy or the internal shifts, there's something that's more, simple, subtle, and there's a levity.

To it. And yet there's still amazing results. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I understand what you're saying. Yeah. That's very cool. I wonder if, as you're saying, there's something that happens inside of you as well. And you [00:46:00] said battery pack, I'm feeling like if you, I'm sure you have, if you've been in a group of people who are tapping and you talk about like the borrowing benefits of tapping together.

Have you ever heard the. Yeah. Yeah. So when you're, say you're doing one on one emotional freedom technique with a trained practitioner, that's one thing. And then if that same practitioner is leading a group of people and someone is voicing something that is a concern or an issue for them or whatever, and you're working on that, everyone's tapping and there's a concept called borrowing benefits where there's an energetic shift for the person who is being worked with directly.

But there's a concept that the energy. whatever parts of you that are also resonating with any of that story in whatever form it's turning up in you is also unraveling. So I wonder whether it's, I don't know, same kind of thing in that because you're working with energy. Because it's not it's not discreet in one person's body.

So maybe there's some magical stuff happening for you as well. I don't know. What do you think is happening? Who cares? Who cares why it's working? 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah I, guess I have some, I guess I have some theories around it. I feel like it's very generative. Whatever it is that I'm doing, it's incredibly generative.

And I think it's because I'm not working we're not working at the deep foundational level. We're literally like together with when I'm in a session with somebody, it's we're literally like, and what would it look like to put. this gargoyle on the it's like, how can we make the, building even prettier?

So I think that there's something in me, in the co creative process, like we're making something really cool together. so, I'm so in it with them. I'm feeling it. Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: You're marinating. [00:48:00] 

Ezzie Spencer: Yeah. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Basting in good vibes. 

Ezzie Spencer: I love it. Exactly. And the other thing actually is that once I take this splinter out and someone.

Because we're working specifically with, money and career, right? Because I'm working, money doesn't always have to come through career, but because I'm working with entrepreneurs who are really motivated to, to see their vision made manifest in the world. We're working with. Oftentimes, which is a deep soul calling or a deep soul gift.

And, look, and that can be the case. I work with product based entrepreneurs, brick and mortar entrepreneurs, I'm not just working with coaches. I work across different industries, but one thing I can see. Once I take the split out is that I can also see into someone in terms of what is your blueprint, if you will what is your soul gift?

And I also get to experience that and people have very different soul gifts. So I get this almost not to be too esoteric about it, but this direct transmission from them, because they're really open. In that container that we're dropping into running this process in and I get to have the experience, not just of, seeing, but also of literally like feeling and perceiving what is on a really deep level.

Why are they here? Like, why did they incarnate? What do they have for the planet? And so I think there's something which is also really generative for me in that, because I get to on some level. And we get to experience that together. We get to talk about it. We get to riff on it.

I always have it. I have a, a telegram channel afterwards. So we like, we keep going. Exactly. Exactly. Like I get to participate. I get to be a collaborator and I might be working with someone who has like a huge audience, right? Because this is one on one work. It's only one on one work.

Yeah. At this time. And I might be working with someone who has a huge audience. And so I feel like [00:50:00] there's still an element of impact that I have beyond the individual sitting in front of me. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it ripples out. As you're speaking about how that feels for you, I guess really in a nutshell, you're experiencing what it is to have.

You're like, you're personifying your mission. Like you're actually experiencing what you desire to be your impact in the world. So you're actually in that energy experiencing exactly that. So that is very cool. And also totally makes sense. Generative because obviously that is your gift. And so therefore that's so cool.

That's so cool. It is like a battery pack. It's I'm plugging into the very thing that lights me up the most. I love a good upward spiral. Oh, it's very cool. I want to, I know we, we need to come to the end because I've made a promise to myself to not have two hour episodes. Anyway. What I wanted to revisit though, we talked about love, peace, power, but is there, I don't know whether this is easy to do in a summary, but can you give us some examples of some of the money splinters that people can have in the different channels?

And then I also want to talk to you about the quiz that you have, because that is a way that people can help themselves to understand this and how it shows up for them. 

Ezzie Spencer: So 

Kylie Patchett: is it easy enough to do? I don't know. 

Ezzie S video: Yeah let's do it. I love that. So I'd say that peace would look like someone who is having trouble delegating.

So they've hit an income lid or an income ceiling. And here's a really interesting thing because we can have trouble delegating any of the channels, but peace will have a particular flavor to it. And that flavor to it is taking over responsibility. So there's like a there's a, malfunction there, right?

So that is going to limit the capacity. [00:52:00] For growth, but it's also going to limit the ability for other people to be involved in the mission, right? Not every single person is meant to be highly visible and is meant to be leading an organization. Like some people's mission is to support other people in the leading of that organization.

And that hyper independence or the rigidity that can come with a splintered Peace channel can be detrimental for all involved in the execution of the mission, as well as choking the money because it's repellent to money. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's also, it's by definition you're the limiting factor.

If you can't do any more, then that's it. If you don't have any more time, energy, space, et cetera, then yeah. Welcome to your own internal lead. Correct. It's like my head's getting sore here. 

Ezzie Spencer: Exactly. That makes sense. Yeah. And when we dig into why, I never know, like someone can present, I can see the piecement, right?

But I can't necessarily see why it's there. Where it came from. That's part of what we unlock in part two of the experience. And this is why the series of prompts that I ask lead someone to come into a dialogue with themselves on a much deeper level and a classic sign with the peace planter is someone who was put in a parental role as a child.

Kylie Patchett: Can you please stop? I'm like, 

Ezzie Spencer: she's just about to say something about over responsibility as a kid. 

Kylie Patchett: Yes. Continue. I actually do feel like I've come a long way on that one, but anyway continue. 

Ezzie Spencer: I think we all have. And one of the things which is really interesting when we think about going to like the new level, new devil, like we've all heard that very common phrase, sometimes it can be the new level old devil.

And that's what I think is really important from, to approach this from a lens of self compassion, self forgiveness. There's nothing wrong with [00:54:00] you. It's not like none of your healing or your 20 years of therapy hasn't worked because here you are dealing with the same thing again. It's no, it's only because you've done the 20 years of therapy or whatever that you're even able at this point to consider going to the next level and have that degree of fluency and articulation around what is going on.

So then just to come back to that Winston Churchill quote, it's then again, the further back you go. Which might be childhood, but not always, as we've been talking about, it can actually track so much further back than that. Then again, like the further into the future that you can see. And so a lot of what I do with people is, there's a, again, like really leaning into that self compassion and self forgiveness, like you didn't do anything wrong.

The fact that this is presenting again, now is not an indication that you're doomed or damaged or broken. It's actually an indication that you're about to go to the next Level, which is so tremendously exciting. So that's an example of peace. 

Kylie Patchett: Like that. 

Ezzie S video: Yeah. And then love somebody who we touched on it before, like you asked the question in terms of love, there's oftentimes some some sort of lack in one's personal relationships when we're talking about the love channel, we're really talking about self love.

However if you don't have self love, it may well be that you're not really pouring into your love life, your platonic relationships, your family relationships, or your relationship with yourself. And a classic thing you might say is who am I to? Who am I to ask for this? Like imposter language, who am I to?

Correct? Exactly. I feel so guilty having this amount of and so working through a lot of the feminine, unconscious vows and splinters on the collective level, again, can come up when we're going to. Next level in terms of money, whether that be really dialing up the revenue, whether that be [00:56:00] the capital raising whether that be the network, there are the golden elevators as well, but those are the two main ones that I'm working with.

And we may not even realize that we're holding that like guilt or shame until we try to. Yeah. Again, hit that next big goal and experience what is almost like an invisible barrier, like to get there. So it's okay. 

Kylie Patchett: Yeah. All right. Indicator here. 

Ezzie S video: Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. And I think the point that you're making before about the women investing in the way that when money is in the hands of, women we, I think we will see a very different planet, even coming back to.

And it's relevant, I think, speaking about the love channel as well, coming back to domestic violence. Like when you look at what is the primary driver across all nations globally, it's, gender inequality specifically through financial inequality so it's so important.

I think on so many levels, of society, whether you're talking about someone who's investing in regenerative So they I think that the, I think that the most important thing to remember You know, when you're talking about an individual woman has access to finances to be able to fund her own life, that there needs to be a rebalancing in terms of the the availability of capital, which doesn't mean anyone loses.

It doesn't mean it's about actually we all get to gain and peer for the win. But anyway, there's a lot to work through on that level on personal level and collective level. So then, power, we touched on that a little bit before, but I think a classic one with power is that sense of not being.

Being able to stop because you think that if you stop, you're going to lose it all. And for example, you would have seen this as well. It's you're worried at a hundred thousand dollars a year. You're going to not have enough money or it's all going to fall apart if you stop, but then you're still worrying at 500, 000 a year in terms of revenue.

Because it's a habit, right? And what's the habit? The habit is one of scarcity. And [00:58:00] and of course, It's never someone's fault. Like it comes from a splinter. And this is why I think this is actually a really empowering approach because there's literally nothing wrong with you. If you are experiencing this, it's just really normal.

In fact, it's part of the human condition. This is just what it looks like. And the problem is, that if you don't address this and you keep amassing money, will simply amplify what is already going on underneath the surface. So the more money you make. The more scared you're going to be about losing it and the more miserable you're going to become.

It's not because money is the problem. It's because the money splinter is the problem. And the money is just turning up the floodlight on that splinter. 

Kylie Patchett: What do you, how do you feel the language of money block has

ended up feeling to us? Because I guess what I'm, I've always felt like, the term money block. To me, at least has a sense of like almost blame or something like the block means that there's something that I don't get or something that I don't understand or something that I've done to myself.

Whereas the language of the splinter and the returning to a natural state feels, gentler and subtler, but also I can see that through a lens of self compassion a lot. More easily than when I think money block, and I don't know, this is probably just my personal interpretation, but I know I definitely have friends that always like often will be talking about something and they're like, Oh, I'm learning money blocks are turning up again.

Like it's been made into this kind of, I don't know, funny that entrepreneurs say when, they're not doing something that they should be or something. What do you feel about the language? Yeah. I'm interested. 

Ezzie S video: I guess I, it's not language that I use. It's not language that I resonate with, but it's also not language that I really think [01:00:00] about.

And part of that is because of the way this happened for me, which is that I just started seeing splinters. So I'm not thinking about it in terms of, Concepts. I'm just describing what it is that I see. And so because it came from the last winter's, and then I opened it up and I was like, I reckon I need actually people started to ask me to do it on different topics other than love.

And then I realized that money was the most interesting thing for me in terms of this lenses. I think that, that arc of how I landed here is relevant. In in that the one thing that I would say in relation to this is that it sounds to me in the way that you've just been describing money blocks, it sounds to me like that's the top layer of what I work with, meaning the unconscious valve, right?

Because the unconscious valve in the system that I work with, the laid system, part one of the process actually is internally generated, right? Like it's going to be a limiting belief, if you will. It's going to be the the decision that you make with yourself to keep yourself small. So it is and safe.

I guess a very easy way for you to get out of your own way by meeting yourself. Yeah. I think where that approach misses the, depth and the fullness of what this could be is through the ask why is the block there in the first place? It's and I'm not just simply just because of the way that I see someone when I'm looking at the energy, the block or the creation of the vow is only ever.

A self protection mechanism. It's like an energetic workaround to try to make sense and order of reality and to not cause oneself more pain or harm. And I think that's such a compassionate lens to take from the first 

Kylie Patchett: place around 

Ezzie S video: that, because the thing is we're not stupid. If, there's anything that we're doing to hold ourselves back, there's a reason.

Yes, exactly. 

Kylie Patchett: And. In, one lens of looking at it, thank you self for creating this and now it's not [01:02:00] serving me. There's a reason for it. And I, think that's a very good point to make, because it does take. The blame out of it, because it's okay, this was formed as a protective mechanism.

And now the repeating of it does not feel comfortable or isn't allowing me to create what I want or in the way that I want it. And therefore I'm ready to look at it from, yeah, a different way. Thinking about the quiz, When we were talking about the three different channels, then does the quiz help people identify where their splinter will be or potentially is okay, great.

Yeah. 

Ezzie S video: So it's just a super sweet and simple. Where's your money splinter quiz. It's free. It takes two minutes and you'll get a, an email with your result. And then also a little two minute meditation. To help to work with that. So it's, yeah, a nice little, a nice little taste of the themes that we've been speaking 

Kylie Patchett: into.

Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. One thing we have not talked about and we are out of time, but I do want to give a shout out because just recently you released some reflection cards and a beautiful little moon lamp, which for the people watching on the video, I've got my little moon lamp, yeah, it's so cute. I'm obsessed with it.

I'm obsessed with it too. It's oh, so much detail. Anyway, would you like to tell people about that very quickly and then we'll wrap up? 

Ezzie S video: Yeah. It's just been a really fun project to, to release a product line and it's out. Globally. So it's in woman, Walmart and target in the U S and major retailers internationally, which is, which has been amazing.

And so it's the lunar abundance reflection card deck and guidebook and the little mini moon lamp. And that's a continuation of the series that I've been writing and publishing in for nearly a decade now.

Yeah. At last count a couple of years ago, I'd sold over 40, 000 copies [01:04:00] of, that book series of a multiple titles worldwide. And so it's a really beautiful way to start to connect with your own intuition, your own wellbeing. It's because you're working with the moon cycle to cultivate joy and peace and purpose.

So it's something which is so like practical and workable with the different phases of the moon and the reflection cards are a way to make the practice just so accessible for daily life. Now, like you can pull a card, have it on Yeah. That's what I do. I don't 

Kylie Patchett: have one out because my, I have my journal and my tarot deck and your cards and my oils and whatever.

But I, Oh, there they are. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. I take it all out into outside table, but they're still out there. Otherwise I would be able to show you actually my card for today was. Oh, now I can't think because it was before my first podcast, which is many thousands of words ago. Did 

Ezzie S video: I 

Kylie Patchett: pull up?

Should I pull up right now? Okay. 

Ezzie S video: So really nice. I know. I know. It's Oh, I didn't know I was going to do this. It's very fun and spontaneous. So I am going to ask question. What is the the primary area that's blocking our abundance, that's blocking our money? The, cards are not specifically about the money splinters, but I use this question around blocking money and abundance all the time.

And they're really, because they're abundance cards. They love this question. The cards are like, I 

Kylie Patchett: know, they're like, Grrr. 

Ezzie S video: That's really nice. Okay. So the card that I pulled is fill your, yeah, fill your own cup. 

Kylie Patchett: Very, cool. I think that I want to, I'm going to have to, I'll have to DM you later. I think mine is it's either the surrender one or the like, you need rest, go put your feet up.

I was like, after the podcast. But I find [01:06:00] these chats are regenerative for me. So yes, it is. It is filling my cup. Thank you. It's been an absolute pleasure to have you back. We will make sure that we've got all of those links that we've talked about today. Including back to the first session, that first episode that we recorded.

I'm going to have to look at the date because it feels like it's about 10 years since we last spoke, but also the link to the quiz and everything. Thank you so much for your time and your wisdom and sharing your modality with us as well, because it's such a beautiful. It's a treat to hear how someone else unfolds their work in an experiential way.

That's quite special. So thank you. Thank you. 

Ezzie Spencer: Oh, it's been my pleasure. And thank you for your amazing questions. You're so unbelievably perceptive, insightful. It's a joy to speak with you. Thank you so much. See you later.

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